Top Bush Admin Official Says Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld All Guilty of War Crimes (Video)

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richard-clarkeI recently had a discussion with a conservative who, as expected, had no trouble bashing President Obama for what a “lousy job he’s done as president.”  Now I didn’t get into it too much with this individual because I stick to a rule about not engaging in political debates with people who clearly aren’t on the same level as I am.  Not to sound arrogant, but if someone doesn’t know the difference between the House of Representatives and the Senate or you think our economic crash happened while Obama was president, I just don’t have time to waste trying to explain life to that person.

Typically with these types of conservatives I simply ask them one question, “Did you vote for George W. Bush twice?”  If their answer is yes, I usually just dismiss anything else they have to say.  While President Obama is far from perfect, it’s ridiculous to me that those who voted for George W. Bush twice try to act outraged over the few controversies that have stemmed from the Obama administration.

Benghazi is, of course, the most obvious of these fake attempts at outrage.  When the guy you voted for twice sent over 4,400 Americans to die in Iraq based on a lie – spare me your fake outrage over four deaths in Benghazi.

Or how easily conservatives seem to gloss over the fact that Bush, Rumsfeld and Cheney have all admitted to committing war crimes.  Not only admitted to it, but practically bragged about it.  It’s no wonder why many Americans have asked why they’re not in prison.

And conservatives have the nerve to say that Obama has hurt America’s image internationally?  Please.  Anti-American sentiment within the global community really gained stem years ago when practically the entire Bush administration gave the world the middle finger and said they were going to do whatever they wanted whether anyone else liked it or not.

And it’s hard for a country to run on the pretense of moral authority when your president and vice president are essentially bragging about committing war crimes.

Heck, even one of Bush’s former top officials, Richard Clarke, recently said that Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld all committed war crimes.

During an interview with Democracy Now! Clarke was asked whether or not Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld could be tried by an international court for war crimes:

“I think things that they authorized probably fall within the area of war crimes. Whether that would be productive or not, I think, is a discussion we could all have. But we have established procedures now with the International Criminal Court in The Hague, where people who take actions as serving presidents or prime ministers of countries have been indicted and have been tried. So the precedent is there to do that sort of thing. And I think we need to ask ourselves whether or not it would be useful to do that in the case of members of the Bush administration. It’s clear that things that the Bush administration did — in my mind, at least, it’s clear that some of the things they did were war crimes.”

My apologies to Mr. Clarke, but he’s wrong on one part of that statement.  It’s not just “in his mind” that some of the things they did were war crimes – they did commit war crimes.

But the real injustice is that none of these men will ever see the inside of a courtroom for the crimes they’ve admitted to committing.

Watch Clarke’s comments below:


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Allen Clifton is a native Texan who now lives in the Austin area. He has a degree in Political Science from Sam Houston State University. Allen is a co-founder of Forward Progressives and creator of the popular Right Off A Cliff column and Facebook page. Be sure to follow Allen on Twitter and Facebook, and subscribe to his channel on YouTube as well.

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  • kathere norton malek

    Finally someone admitted it. Sending American troops in to invade a country on the premise/threat/propaganda that WMDs were being hoarded there and those WMDs were never found is heinous in itself without even addressing the issue of what was authorized and what went on at Guantanamo Bay prison. Rumsfeld, Cheney and Bush are without question unrepentent war criminals. We all know that. Having a Republican, a former Bush-ite admit it is compelling & refreshing. Sadly though, nothing will ever be done about it. There’s zero public outrage. The GOPers are masters at spinning Benghazi into a scandal, even when it was Republican votes that significantly reduced embassy security budgets. They’re just too adept at turning the tables and ppl are gullible and naive.

    • gian keys flat mom

      ” benghazzzzzzzzzzzzi”
      ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, and praise jeeesus!!

  • Sandy Greer

    Two words: Drone Strikes.

    Clarke is right about LieRaq. We left our allies to fight our war in Afghanistan because it was too difficult. We invaded LieRaq on a whim (feeding Al-Qaeda propaganda) We left Osama bin Laden for another entire presidency to be killed.

    WE LOST OUR FOCUS. Caused irreparable damage to the heart and soul of this country.

    But I do not advocate we hold ANY admin up for War Crimes. Political winds shift all too easily.

    Were charges brought in The Hague, it wouldn’t surprise me at all if Obama admin aided Defense council. Or any future admin. They’ve all got a stake in talks of this nature not coming to fruition.

    • Fiona Mackenzie

      We didn’t care about Afghanistan because even though it has more than a trillion dollars in minerals, gems, etc. in the ground (see how that goes–our military got in there, and right away we’re finding out what we can steal) it is not cost effective at this time to pull them out.

  • R Vogel

    And we are seeing the fruits of our loss of moral authority, if we indeed ever had any, with the case of the US Marine currently being held in Mexico. I was struck by how the descriptions of how he was treated were, at face value, so similar to descriptions of things that happened in Abu Grahib. How do conservative have the audacity to act appalled and indignant? But when you aren’t the one who has to risk reciprocity it is a far easier thing to justify. How would Texas or Arizona have reacted to a Mexican citizen crossing in the U.S. with firearms in his vehicle? Would he even still be in the U.S.?

    • Eg Kbbs

      As to the Marine in Mexico, I remember a few years back when Texas executed a Mexican. In the lead up to this, both Texas and the USA stonewalled the Mexican authorities (embassy) from contact with the inmate as would be normal under international relations between two countries that had any rapport whatsoever. That has got to have poisoned the well. Add in how we for a decade supplied guns to criminals in Mexico. Add in that you either have to conclude the guy wasn’t under orders so he was technically at the time just some guy who crossed the border with munitions and would fall under Mexican jurisdiction for such -or- he was doing covert ops.

      Further on our moral authority, one of the first actions of GWB in Iraq was to declare that our folks weren’t under the world court. Also “negotiated” (intentionally in quotes) that our military, contractors, etc. were immune from Iraqi law (such as when they raped folks).

  • ken

    Iron horse: No shit

  • fiona64

    I’ve been saying for ages that Bush et al. need to be tried in the Hague … because anyone with two brain cells to rub together knows that they committed war crimes. Of course, that’s a Bush family tradition, what with Poppy and his war profiteering … but that’s a story for another time.

    • Charles Vincent

      Hope your et al. Includes Obama an his administration as well.

      • gian keys flat mom

        hey chuck,,,,,,,,,,,,, must suck knowing U stand up for a loser administration,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
        enjoy the progress; and write soon

      • Charles Vincent

        I didn’t like bush either. But you knew that from previous discussions, but wanted to overstuff your straw man.
        P.S.
        I didn’t vote for bush either.

      • gian keys flat mom

        so; by attempting to include the current administration U group them together in this genre????

      • Charles Vincent

        Yep
        War criminals one and all.

      • Sandy Greer

        I agree with you: Drone strikes, and Guantanamo. I think if we’re honest – we know it to be the case.

        One can equivocate, and some would excuse whichever party they lean to. But facts remain: It is what it is. Ugly – but it’s a fact.

        Would you bring charges?

        Honestly (theoretically, intellectually) I can see either way. But in my heart believe no ones hands are clean – that any president (past, present, or future) will be required to stomach things that would leave us sleepless at night.

        So, much as an attorney will defend the most repellent – I would argue against charges – and plead for mercy.

        Where do you stand on this?

      • Charles Vincent

        “Would you bring charges?”
        Yes. Whatever would fit the individual cases.

        “Where do you stand on this?”
        I would tend to lean towards the charges if they needed to be brought should be leveled after the official(s) are no longer in office.

      • Sandy Greer

        Well, I hope it never comes to pass. I don’t see any good coming from it.

        Don’t know whether to be flattered – or irritated – you use me to bolster your arguments (answer to Fiona) I’m not the ‘big guns’, you know. 😉 That’s twice, now.

        Chilling Effect. War Crimes AND ‘big guns’.

      • Charles Vincent

        There have to be consequences and knowing one is going to be held personally responsible for their action is a great motivator to do the right thing IMHO.
        Sorry I am being lazy not able to use my home PC due to recent household events. So my replies will be anemic while I have to use my iPad. Also anyone that reads your posts knows where you stand I was merely referring Fiona to the fact that Obama has committed war crimes like we had been discussing. Apologies for the inconvenience and putting you on the spot.

        /Tips hat

      • Sandy Greer

        No harm, no foul. Thanks for explaining. I’d rather see you post, than not – shortcuts, and all. 😉
        I agree about consequences; I’m torn on War Crimes.
        I think there are things I don’t know about presidential responsibilities – that ‘go with the territory’:
        We send soldiers into combat; give them a military code, and want (expect) them to behave well. But they’re exposed to an Ugliness we’ll never understand. Sometimes, they make choices we ‘armchair generals’ look askance at.
        Ours is the responsibility – for putting them in the path of Ugliness.
        But I absolutely understand what you’re looking at. And think – in a perfect (and maybe even, a not-so-perfect) world – yours is the better way.

      • Charles Vincent

        Eh I am always thinking mitigate it’s the realist in me that we discussed on another thread. And the pragmatic part requires proof my way isn’t the best way.

      • gian keys flat mom

        so–
        which president(s) are not ‘ war criminals”,,,and why(not)?

      • Charles Vincent

        They might not be just the president could be members of the administration as well. As for which presidents well compare them to the Nuremberg principles and see who fails and who passes.

      • gian keys flat mom

        serious spinning away from answering my question there chuckles!

      • Charles Vincent

        That isn’t spin google the Nuremberg principles and then match them to past and current presidents. Do your own leg work lol.

      • fiona64

        Well, see, since Pres. Obama hasn’t committed any war crimes, that would be pretty tricky.

      • Charles Vincent

        You haven’t been paying attention or you’re ignoring it cause he’s your party politically. I can provide plenty of facts that show he and his administration have committed war crimes. See my conversation sixth sandy on this thread.

  • Fiona Mackenzie

    Richard Clarke came over to the side of ethics and sanity quite early on. He is invaluable. Take care of him.