10 Questions Every Liberal Should Ask Every Republican, 9th Edition

MITCH-MCCONNELLWelcome to the ninth edition of my series titled “10 Questions Every Liberal Should Ask Every Republican.” As always, the premise is straight forward and simple. Every few weeks I write this feature with 10 new questions I believe liberals should present to their conservative counterparts to have them answer.


Though sometimes the questions aren’t exactly “questions” as much as they are statements I’d like Republicans to try to explain.

But without further delay, let’s get to the questions.

1) When two-thirds of Americans decide not to vote, producing the lowest voter turnout since 1942, how exactly does that equate to this year’s elections being anything but an absolute embarrassment for democracy?

2) If the Senate passed a bipartisan immigration bill that the president said he would sign in June 2013, yet John Boehner flat-out refused to let the House even vote on the bill (because he knew it would pass), whose fault is it that we haven’t passed bipartisan immigration reform in this country?

3) Speaking of immigration reform, it’s been nearly a year and a half since the Senate passed that bipartisan bill by a vote of 68-32. How long does it take for John Boehner and House Republicans to do their jobs and address an issue the president and Senate both came to an agreement on well over a year ago?

4) How many thousands of Americans are you willing to sacrifice in order to defeat the terrorist group (ISIL) that’s came about as a direct result of Bush’s incompetence during the Iraq war?

5) Are you aware that the term “net neutrality” means keeping the internet exactly how it’s always been (with the same room for innovation) since the first moment you started using it? 


6) How many millions of jobs need to be created, how high must stocks soar and how far does unemployment need to fall before you’ll admit President Obama has been a success economically?

7) With some of the lowest oil prices in years, when do you think Fox News will start praising President Obama for the currently low price of gasoline, considering they always blame him when prices go up?

8) What happened to all of the Ebola fear mongering that was being pushed by Republicans and Fox News prior to the election? Oh, and who was right? The CDC, which said not to worry because an outbreak was unlikely, or the conservative media which continually tried to cast doubt on what the medical experts were saying?

9) If immigration reform that includes a path to citizenship for illegal immigrants who are currently in the United States (and meet certain strict standards) is such a “radical leftist idea” – then why did “conservative legend” Ronald Reagan pass almost the exact same immigration bill in 1986 that President Obama wants Congress to pass now?

10) If John Boehner and his fellow Republicans claim that the Keystone XL pipeline needs to be approved by the president because the majority of the American people support it, then why don’t these Republicans feel the same way about immigration reform, universal background checks on gun purchases and raising the minimum wage? Three major issues that the vast majority of Americans support more than building the Keystone XL pipeline.

Alright, well that will wrap up this edition, I hope you enjoyed it. Feel free to hit me up on Twitter or Facebook to leave feedback and let me know what you thought.



Allen Clifton

Allen Clifton is a native Texan who now lives in the Austin area. He has a degree in Political Science from Sam Houston State University. Allen is a co-founder of Forward Progressives and creator of the popular Right Off A Cliff column and Facebook page. Be sure to follow Allen on Twitter and Facebook, and subscribe to his channel on YouTube as well.

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  • Jim Bean

    1. Republicans agree its an embarrassment and recognize that Obama has presided over this complete destruction of confidence in government.

    2. The American people are to blame. There is not majority support for legalizing all these people. Not even among the Hispanic community.

    3. It takes just as long as it does for Harry to let the Senate vote on the bills sitting on his desk.

    4. ISIS did not come about because of Bush incompetence in Iraq. It came about after Bush was out of office because of Obama incompetence in Iraq.

    5. Yes

    6. We can’t give Obama credit for the economic success that is primarily the result of increased oil and gas production that he tried to prevent. We can give him credit splitting one job into two by reducing the hours worked by each to get around Obamacare. We aren’t, however, inclined to think of this in terms in ‘job growth.’

    7. Obama did everything in his power to disrupt oil and gas production (by clamping down on the number of leases and permits granted). The increased oil/gas production that is putting downward pressure on gasoline prices is completely the result of private enterprise and fracking. Conservatives know this and know Obama gets no credit.

    8. It got pushed to the side by new administration scandals. And, as the Gruber scandal so eloquently demonstrates, challenging government on what they say is a prudent strategy.

    9. Reagan was exercising executive discretion under an immigration bill already approved by Congress. Obama is not.

    10. Universal background checks – it is already illegal for a felon to purchase a weapon. If that law doesn’t work, why would this one? Besides, Facebook just banned advertising for gun safes designed to keep guns away from children and criminals. The Left isn’t objecting.

    Immigration reform – authors claim is erroneous. Per Huffpo/Yougov poll a few days ago, forty-six percent of Americans opposed a pathway to citizenship for illegal immigrants, while 40% supported it. Thirteen percent were not sure. And this is where Dems want to take this.

    Minimum wage – the majority, as Gruber explained, do not understand economics. They do not realize that raising the minimum wage will crush those on fixed incomes as employers raise the cost of goods and services to compensate for the hike that will not result in a net increase in buying power for those receiving the raise. The majority does not understand it will reduce the number of jobs available for you people.

    • Robert Scalzi

      You sir are a class V troll – and a bottom of the class lying idiot

      • doughpro

        Jim Beam responds to the request as stated in the title of the article by answering the questions, and you label him a troll? That tells me that you are not interested in what conservatives have to say at all. That’s not “forward thinking”. That’s Neanderthal closed-mindedness.

      • Denny Bernsmeier

        Keep an eye on these posts. Jim Bean always post like this and never listens to anyone else no matter the proof given. He does nothing except repeat Fox news.

      • suburbancuurmudgeon

        I am not at all interested in what conservatives have to say because they don’t use logic and fact to argue.

      • doughpro

        I am guessing it’s more like you can’t refute their logic and facts.

    • FD Brian

      you’re completely wrong about #4, ISIS is clearly there because of the war we started in Iraq that removed a controlling dictator. In a nation that, Bush stated several times, was not a country we would be doing any “nation building” in.

      • Jim Bean

        What gave rise to ISIS was the memo Obama sent to terrorists in general saying, ‘We are no longer committed to defeating you.’

      • FD Brian

        I understand that you hate obama and would blame him for an ingrown toe nail, because that’s what you do, but Saddam not in power is what gave rise to ISIS and our occupation of Iraq is what aided the hate they have for us.

      • Jim Bean

        (History lesson) They hated us before 9/11 and that is why they caused 9/11. And 9/11 came before the occupation of Iraq.

      • FD Brian

        You know Iraq didn’t attack us, right?

      • bill_h

        history lesson 9/11 was a false flag attack designed to take us to war.

      • suburbancuurmudgeon

        9/11 was planned by Saudis not Iraqis. And they hate us because we’ve propped up their repressive leaders.

      • jimv1983

        No dude. Just…. NO. The existence of ISIS is a direct result of USA intervention. Anytime the USA gets involved in things in the middle east things just get worse. Just look at Bin Laden. The USA is directly responsible for him ever coming to power.

        Plus, why should we be defending the people in Iraq when they won’t even try to defend themselves?

      • suburbancuurmudgeon

        What memo is that?

        ISIS is a bunch of pissed-off Sunnis that Maliki screwed. They are killing Shiites and anyone who isn’t Sunni. We are, in fact, responsible for ISIS’ creation.

    • Ellison McCreary

      You answer all the questions with lies perpetrated by your gods-the Koch Brothers. Go crawl up with the fav five and tell yourselves more fallacies. People like you are responsible for the negative impact in the United States.

  • Rob Bailey

    1) Hmmm. Which body has the higher approval, the Executive or Congress.
    2) Yes, to paraphrase Gruber the American electorate IS stupid (see Red State). Looks to me like the people spoke through their Senators a couple of years ago when Immigration passed by a wide bi-partisan margin.
    3) Tired, lame argument. Let’s vote some more to repeal ACA.
    4) Sure, we didn’t piss off any Muslims by killing a couple hundred thousand of them so Dick Cheney’s stocks could go up.
    5) Yes.
    6) Stimulus – though not big enough – worked. Oil conservation is working and affecting demand despite economic growth, resulting in lower prices. Lie, lie, lie on the rest of your #6. If you have data that says otherwise (you don’t), then post it.
    7) Again, no basis in fact. Oil is a fungible good, priced essentially on the world market. Fracking here and there – and the need for increased production – will go down as oil approaches $70. Producers choose how much to produce based on price.
    8) No, not really. The GOP – like Gruber – knows that the reliable Red State voter is pretty damn stupid, so the pre-election messaging was (credit to Jon Stewart) “ISIS is coming to behead you while you die from bloody Ebola poop”. It worked. Dems stayed home, and single-issue old FauxNews-watching old white people scared of bloody Ebola and the African guy reliably did their civic duty and elected even more clowns to the House and Senate.
    9) Senate Immigration Bill – 68-32 for. Ronnie Raygun – 381 Executive orders, including immigration. Emperor Obama, less than 200. Twist it however you(r) masters tell you, but what Obama did this week is legal and not unprecedented.
    10) Sure, it’s unlawful for felons to buy guns. Not hard, though – just head over to a local gun show. Regulation. It’s written in the 2nd Amendment. And in my lifetime, it was illegal – but popular – do have segration and no mixed-race marriage. The majority wanted it that way. That’s why we have a judiciary, to protect the rights of a minority.
    Your assertion that a minimum wage will “crush” jobs proves your point – that you are rather clueless about economics. You want low-paying jobs and reduced buying power? Keep NOT investing in education and infrastructure (GOP way) and transferring all new wealth upwards (GOP way) and you’ll have all the low-paying, non-competitive-in-a-world-economy jobs you can handle.

    • curmudgeon VN Veteran

      Brainwashed and fear facing reality that all your programs are total failures?

      • Rob Bailey

        Thanks for your service, but you got nuthin’. Typical con.

      • Retrodude

        Conservative programs are the failures. Fun fact here- a Republican president hasn’t balanced our budget since 1958- yet THREE Democrat presidents HAVE. Reagan tripled our deficit= Bush doubled it. Clinton left a surplus, and Obama has cut our deficit in half. Party of fiscal responsibility MY ASS. You guys waste far more money- how many millions were wasted on all the Benghazi hearings- which just yesterday said there was NO WRONG DOING? How many millions did you fucking waste defending DOMA? (Over $12 million, that’s how much…). What the hell do you guys even contribute? What are you ideas? You have none. You just say no to whatever Obama says. Nobody wants your guns. You were wrong about Benghazi. You were wrong about Iraq. You were wrong about the birth certificate. Pretty much wrong about everything. So get off your fucking high horse. The GOP ratings are at an ALL-TIME low. You lost the last 2 elections, and since Benghazi has been officially debunked, I seriously doubt you will see the inside of the White House for a while.

      • doughpro

        Clinton included social security in his numbers to show a surplus. Obama has not approved a budget since he’s been in office. How can you say he’s cut the deficit? And as soon as he tells the Fed to stop printing and pumping useless dollars into the system, the stock market will do like a rock.

      • doughpro

        Drop like a rock.^

      • suburbancuurmudgeon

        He has cut the deficit. You just don’t want to admit it.
        Fiscal Year/Federal Deficit:
        FY 2009: $1,413 billion
        FY 2010: $1,294 billion
        FY 2011: $1,300 billion
        FY 2012: $1,087 billion
        FY 2013: $680 billion
        FY 2014: $483 billion
        Source: usgovernmentspending DOT com.

      • doughpro

        He has doubled our debt making us fiscally unsound and owing trillions to other countries. We now have the highest debt in the history of the USA, resulting in the loss of our world AAA rating for the first time in the history of the USA, and the worst record of GDP growth in USA history.
        Thank you, Obama.

      • curmudgeon VN Veteran

        You actually believe that garbage? Slick Willie fudged figures and had his feet held over the fire to come up with his questionable ‘balanced’ budget. I find it humorous that you actually put faith in any politicians. Ann Coulter nailed it when she made the comment that there are a lot of bad Republicans, but there are no good democrats.

  • strayaway

    1) Democrats stayed home because of insipid Democratic policies like letting foreigners take their jobs, allowing ebola victims into the US, and a decline in their standard of living.

    2&3) We do have bi-partisan immigration laws that are ignored. President Bush tried to pass similar legislation and Congress voted it down. Congress looked at dreamer legislation, refused to take it up, and then Obama went ahead and unconstitutionally wrote his own Dreamer amnesty legislation. There is nothing requiring a Congress to vote on anything. Hundreds of bills are sitting on Harry Reid’s shelf.

    4) Bush and Obama’s war as Obama kept it going as long as Iraqi law allowed and Obama never voted to defund it as Senator. Obama also seeded IS with weapons he gave to a ‘friendly’ group of anti-Assad rebels. They fled or joined up with IS and IS inherited Obama’s gifts.

    5 Only if now new taxes or regulations are imposed on the internet.

    6) 2/3 of jobs created since the bottom of the recession pay less then the average job lost during the recession. 3/4 of all jobs created in that same time have gone to foreigners – legal and otherwise. This pathetic recovery was paid for with $7.9T of debt billed to our children making Obama a child abuser of the worst sort. Most of the stock profits went into the pockets of the 1% who control both parties.

    7) If Al Gore can be credited with inventing the internet then we should give credit to Obama for inventing the fracking process that has reduced the price of oil and gas. He won a Peace prize too. Shame on Fox News for not giving due respect to our Dear Leader.

    8) It isn’t off the news although we have had a lot of other news including the election and Obama’s coup last night and maybe riots in Ferguson soon. Senator Schumer just requested $20M from the federal government for the care of one ebola patient. That is money that comes from the limited coffers meant to take care of sick Americans.

    9) Because Reagan was a fool to believe that democrats would hold up their end of the bargain to solve the problem once and for all. Also, big difference, Congress was behind Reagan on that one.

    10) All of the things mentioned need the passage of Congress and the president’s signature to become law. Without the passage by both the President and Congress they aren’t laws. So what? that’s how the Constitution works or did until Obama usurped it last night.

    • Peter Mrozik

      blah blah blah

      • curmudgeon VN Veteran

        Reality, common sense and logic are foreign concepts for you aren’t they Sparky?

    • jimv1983

      Al Gore never said he invented the internet. He didn’t invent it from a technical standpoint but he was hugely influential in its creation.

      • curmudgeon VN Veteran

        Jonathan Gruber and Vladimir Lenin warned us about you people.

      • jimv1983

        What? My comment was about All Gore’s involvement in the creation of the internet. What the hell are you talking about?

    • jimv1983

      So you have a problem with spending $20 million to treat someone with Ebola that would also help to prevent dpresding it? How do you feel about the billions in tax breaks given to huge corporations? You want to talk about wasteful spending?

      • curmudgeon VN Veteran

        I will have to admit that you democRAT voting liberals are the experts on wasteful spending.

      • strayaway

        The hospital in Texas charged between $.5-1M depending on the source. Senator Schumer was after $20M. Do you see the difference? In either case, no matter which set of taxpayers are paying for all this, it is money that is diverted from poor Americans for their health care – something you don’t seem to have a problem with or can’t quite comprehend. It is a reminder of why everyone getting off the plane from ebola epidemic countries should be quarantined for 21 days instead of our idiot president’s PC immigration policy.

        In response to your question: I would like to end 100% of tax breaks and subsidies to corporations. Hey, I’ve got an idea. Why don’t you write the president and ask him to use his magic extra-constitutional phone and pen to eliminate those subsidies. Congress doesn’t stand in the way of this president!

      • Rob Bailey

        Hey, eff-wit. Do you have a grasp on how much gun violence costs? I KNOW healthcare, and KNOW that we all paid when freeloaders showed up sick in the ER.
        You were fooled by the “ISIS is gonna cut your head off while you have bloody Ebola poop” propaganda. Congrats. Good luck on that GED.

      • strayaway

        Were we talking about gun violence or are you lost? Good luck in following conversations.

      • Rob Bailey

        Perceptions, Princess – read for context. Ebola was nothing in the US and you whine about a few million dollars. Bigger issues – like gun violence costs – go right over your head. Good luck in following conversations.

      • strayaway

        $20M, not “a few million”. Far more people die because of medical errors than from gun violence if you really want to change the subject. Nice try on changing the subject though – at least in your little mind.

      • Rob Bailey

        Only a moron could fall for the Ebola line the GOP sold you. Like I said, you morons whine about $20 million while gun violence costs billions and you ignore that fact. Fucking stupid logic.

      • strayaway

        Some Americans don’t want the deaths and expense cause by ebola. I think you give the GOP too much credit but maybe somehow voters associated GOP voices being more prudent about ebola policy than Obama. Like I said, medical errors cause more deaths than gun violence if you are looking for some topic to change the subject with.

      • Rob Bailey

        Nope, Princess. I work in hospitals. I see what the costs are (and the charges – two different things). Ebola was a total political tactic designed to gin up fear and get out the vote. CDC policy was spot-on correct. If you guys had half a brain you’d realize that stopping the virus where it is is sound strategy. But, heh – I’m asking Cons to follow science. Stupid me.
        You brought up the “costs” associated with a few Ebola patients and came across sounding pretty stupid when you put it in perspective. Thanks for playing.

      • strayaway

        The Texas hospital was following CDC protocols. They didn’t work so the CDC revised its protocols requiring more skin to be covered. So you are wrong about CDC being initially correct. I think the CDC is trying given that 150 people are getting off the plane from ebola epidemic countries every day. Stopping the virus in Africa is a good strategy. Allowing it here isn’t unless you can justify $20M treatments. That, again, was Senator Schumer’s number.

      • jimv1983

        I totally agree on the 21 day quarantine. Just because that one hospital only needed $1 million doesn’t mean more isn’t needed for Ebola in other places in the USA. $20 million is nothing compared to the money spent on pretty much everything else. If you really have a problem with that $20 million then you clearly don’t know anything.

        Also, I never said I supported everything Obama has done but he sure has done more good than bad and has been much better than Bush was or as bad as McCain or Romney would have been.

      • strayaway

        The reason I brought up Senator Schumers’ request for $20M had nothing to do with whether or not I thought $20M was a lot of money to treat one patient. It is but that wasn’t my point. I was responding to someone who claimed that ebola was not in the news since the election. I had just read about Senator Schumer and mentioned it to prove that point somewhat wrong.

  • juandos

    1 question you libtards need to ask yourselves, what is it you have against getting a grip on reality?

    • Retrodude

      I cannot take seriously anyone who uses the term “libtard”.

      • juandos

        I cannot take seriously anyone who uses the term “libtard”“…

        Now you know how real people feel about liberals…

      • Retrodude

        No…… people like liberals. See, it was liberals who got women and blacks the right to vote. It’s liberals who are giving gays the right to marry. Liberal policies are being enacted all over the country- marijuana and gay marriage are sweeping the nation. What have conservatives done for the American people?

        And only an uneducated boob would call ANYONE a “tard” of any kind. Typical hateful conservative.

      • curmudgeon VN Veteran

        Sounds like you are in favor of all the issues that have resulted in the lowering of and coarsening of the formerly united states of America. Congratulations. I doubt that you have contributed one thing to your country and fellow man outside of flapping your lips.

      • Retrodude

        Dude, you don’t know a goddamn thing about me. What the fuck have you contributed to society? In fact, what in the HELL have conservatives contributed to society that has benefitted EVERYBODY in the past 20 years? Besides blowing up our deficit, fighting to keep gays from marrying, booing gay soldiers, fighting against DADT, starting 2 unnecessary and expensive wars, catering to the racist/sexist/homophobes, and being infiltrated by the Religious Right?

      • curmudgeon VN Veteran

        Should have realized you’re a pervert. You all seem to have a good grasp of on vulgarity a real sign of intelligence and education. Go save a Polar bear or a spotted owl.

      • Retrodude

        So you honestly think giving women, blacks, and gays equal rights are lowering and coarsening America? Typical conservative mentality- “I got mine, and screw you.” Apparently only white, Christian, heterosexuals get to enjoy the freedoms of America?

      • curmudgeon VN Veteran

        Yes, those are called taxpayers. I would require that everyone who is allowed the PRIVILEGE of voting be a taxpaying citizen. Would also require serving in the United States military in order to hold public office. Far too many of you parasites out there expecting others to provide for you.

      • Rob Bailey

        Hmmm. If you really are a ‘VN Veteran’ – which I doubt – you would be in your mid-60’s and eligible for being “provided for” in the form of VA benefits, Social Security, and Medicare. And you expect me and Retro to provide for you. Hell, I’ll also be magnanimous – I’ll agree to raising the cap on Social Security even though it WILL cost me more. It will also shock you to know – but it’s just another FACT you choose to ignore – that among same-sex couples with both partners in the labor force, median household income is significantly higher ($94,000) than among heterosexual couples ($86,000). That’s likely due to a number of factors, but education is likely one of them. Your lame arguments bore me.

      • curmudgeon VN Veteran

        While realizing that you are one of the bots Jonathan Gruber speaks of it might be earth shattering to you to realize that SSI and Medicare (Two of the biggest Ponzi schemes ever perpetrated by the socialist leftists) are not entitlements for those of us who had our paychecks looted by the government our entire working lives.

        Two tours of Vietnam while you were crapping yellow or not even polluting my oxygen. USN ’65-’69.

        Hairdressers interior designers and chefs must make a lot of money.

      • Rob Bailey

        Funny shit. Given what I know about military pay and what I’ve made since about ’72, I’ve paid about three or four times into the Ponzi schemes you describe as have you. You’re welcome. Friggin’ hypocrite. Taker. And yep, queers are more educated and make a lot more money than you. Funny shit.

      • suburbancuurmudgeon

        So women and minorities voting is a bad thing?

      • curmudgeon VN Veteran

        Of course, you would have to be a total idiot to think otherwise. Women vote for the appearance of there favored candidate regardless of the issues even if they are smarter than Gruber believes them to be and minorities vote based on the ethnicity of their favored candidates as well as the mostly empty promises of those who promise the most ‘free stuff’ looted from the taxpayers.

      • Peter Mrozik

        Try to find one, you’re not it.

      • juandos

        Try to find one, you’re not it“…

        That’s why I find you tards so entertaining, you flail around and still can’t get a grip on reality…

      • suburbancuurmudgeon

        And what reality might that be, hmmmm?

      • juandos

        And what reality might that be, hmmmm?“…

        Why its the way you bleat and whine when people don’t get suckered into the narrative of the parasitic left like you do…

      • Rob Bailey

        Jeebus was a liberal.

      • curmudgeon VN Veteran

        Like retarded liberal better? Liberals truly are mentally disabled.

      • Retrodude

        Yes, liberals are mentally disabled, for having the gall to want everybody equal. Silly liberals- how dare they want women, gays, and all minorities to have the same rights as white, heterosexual Christians! Do you even know what liberals have contributed to society?

      • curmudgeon VN Veteran

        Aids?

      • Rob Bailey

        Methinks you protest a bit too much – can’t get your mind off that penis-thingy, huh.
        Prove to me that Jeebus was a Conservative…

      • curmudgeon VN Veteran

        Nice picture of you as your avatar. That your beard?

      • suburbancuurmudgeon

        Lessee, end of child labor laws, the 5 day work week, labor laws in general, Social Security, Medicare, OSHA and workplace safety laws, environmental laws (remember when the Cuyahoga River caught fire?), banking regulations (diluted by Republicans), civil rights legislation, the ADA, public schools and universities, women’s right to vote, the TVA, the National Weather Service, rural electrification, FDIC, Public Health Service, the CDC, shall I go on?

    • FD Brian

      the right has a problem with reality to, probably even more so than the left.

    • jimv1983

      The republican party thinks: the ACA was a bad idea, climate change isn’t real, the country isn’t better off than it was when Obama took office, the stimulus didn’t work, the USA is safer because of the 2 wars we have been in, agree with people like Ted Cruz on net neutrality, the Keystone pipeline won’t be disaster, corporations are people, marriage equality infringes on religious freedom, we are a Christian nation, etc and it is the “libtards” that don’t have a grip on reality?

      Are you fucking kidding me?

      • juandos

        Let’s see, jizz1983 makes the claim: “The republican party thinks: the ACA was a bad idea, climate change isn’t real, the country isn’t better off than it was when Obama took office, the stimulus didn’t work, the USA is safer because of the 2 wars we have been in, agree with people like Ted Cruz on net neutrality, the Keystone pipeline won’t be disaster, corporations are people, marriage equality infringes on religious freedom, we are a Christian nation“…

        Well jizz_boy maybe you should ask a Republican if any of the weird claims and factless claims you’ve made have any basis in reality…

        Now if any of those points in your whining, insipid drivel have factual basis you may want to trot out some credible & linkable sources (and NO, the NY Times and wikipedia are not credible) so the rest of us can share in your delusional (yet seriously entertaining) grasp on reality…

      • Rob Bailey

        Sure, Assclown. Erick Erickson and Louis Gohmert are the real authorities. Oh, and ask Michelle Bachmann for her opinions while you’re at it.
        Now, boy up and link to some facts about these “factless claims”. Let’s hear your version of reality. Should be a lot of fun.

      • Rob Bailey

        Still waiting. Did your mom cut off your internet or is the signal from your neighbor’s wireless just too weak to steal today… Oh, and btw (when mom lets you back on the net), the NY Times has been awarded well over 100 Pulitzers… You and Erick Erickson?

      • juandos

        Do you have any idea what your’re babbling on about? Can you pull your little libtard head out of your @$$ so you don’t blindly flal at the keyboard and hope something readable is the result?

      • suburbancuurmudgeon

        You still haven’t offered any facts to contradict anyone here. And what do you consider to be a credible source? FOX News?

      • juandos

        You still haven’t offered any facts to contradict anyone here“…

        Liar, you were either to stupid or to dishonest to follow the links I gave initially and guess what straw-dog? Fox wasn’t one of them…

        So pull your head out of your a$$ so you won’t have flail blindly at the keyboard.

      • curmudgeon VN Veteran

        Nice retort to a retard. I suspect it went right over it’s head.

      • jimv1983

        Really? jizz_boy? I guess resorting to name calling is all you have since you ignore all the facts.

        I could spend the time to collect a bunch of links with factual data but what good would that do? You aren’t going to accept the facts anyways so why waste my time?

        The ACA is an improvement.

        Climate change is real and man made.

        The country is better off since Obama took office.

        The stimulus did work.

        The USA isn’t any more or less safe than it was 6 years ago.

        People like Ted Cruz don’t understand what net neutrality is.

        The Keystone XL pipeline is a terrible idea.

        Marriage equality doesn’t infringe on religious freedom.

        America is NOT a Christian nation.

        The republican party is so out of touch with reality it’s amazing they can even dress themselves.

      • juandos

        Well jizzz thanks for reenforcing what you don’t know and showing what pride you have in your abysmal ignorance…

        Its all rather entertaining but then again most libtard hissy fits are…

        The republican party is so out of touch with reality it’s amazing they can even dress themselves” says the clown who wears his mommy’s hand me downs…

      • jimv1983

        Jizz? Clown who wears his mommy’s hand me downs? Libtard?

        Just more insults instead of actually offering evidence that shows I am wrong.

      • juandos

        Well no surprise here that jizz_boy has to lie to bolster his delusional point…

        To bad, so sad you didn’t have access to an adult that could’ve given you help in deciphering the two ad three syllable words whe you needed it…

      • jimv1983

        What lie? I didn’t lie about anything.

      • juandos

        I didn’t lie about anything“…

        Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha!

        Good one!

      • jimv1983

        Please explain. What did I lie about?

        “The ACA is an improvement.”

        Look at the data yourself. More people are covered, coverage is better and prices are going down. Of course our heath care system is far from perfect. A single payer system would be better but the ACA is an improvement.

        “Climate change is real and man made.”

        The scientific data is clear. CO2 levels in the atmosphere are well over 300 parts per million. The levels haven’t been that high in almost a million years and the levels started increasing at an alarming rate right around the start of the industrial revolution when we started spewing crap into the air.

        “The country is better off since Obama took office.”

        The stock market is up. Unemployment is down. House prices have recovered. The deficit is dropping faster than it has since after World War II.

        Obama inherited a deficit of $1.4 trillion from Bush. It is now about $600 billion.

        “The stimulus did work.”

        See above where I explain how the economy is better off than it was 6 years ago. Much of that is due to the stimulus.

        “The USA isn’t any more or less safe than it was 6 years ago.”

        There is nothing that shows that we are any more or less safe than we were 6 years ago.

        “People like Ted Cruz don’t understand what net neutrality is.”

        Explaining what net neutrality is here would take to long. Do some research of your own on what it really means and compare it to what people like Ted Cruz thinks it is. He has no clue.

        “The Keystone XL pipeline is a terrible idea.”

        There is nothing good about the Keystone XL pipeline. Refining the oil from tar sands is very bad for the environment(worse than regular oil). The Keystone XL doesn’t get us off of foreign dependence on oil since it is from Canada from a company called TransCanada. James Hansen, an expert authority on climate science, has said tapping the tar sands resource is “game over” for recovering the environment. Most, if not all, of the oil that comes from pipeline will be shipped to other countries. Also, the pipeline will only create 30-50 permanent full-time jobs. Also, based on the current pipelines we have it is very likely that the Keystone XL will leak, especially considering the oil extracted from tar sands is much more corrosive than regular crude oil.

        “Marriage equality doesn’t infringe on religious freedom.”

        Unless someone is forcing you to marry someone of the same sex or even supporting it then it is not infringing on your religious freedom. Your religion doesn’t get to dictate what other consenting adults do.

        “America is NOT a Christian nation.”

        “The government of the United States is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion”

        – John Adams, 2nd President of the United States

        “I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should ‘make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,’ thus building a wall of separation between Church & State. ”

        -Thomas Jefferson, 3rd President of the United States

        “Christianity neither is, nor ever was a part of the common law.”

        – Thomas Jefferson

        So please, educate me on how I am lying!!

      • suburbancuurmudgeon

        Uh, pretty much read a newspaper or watch cable news and you’ll hear what Republicans believe. Jimv1983 is correct. The GOP voted 51 times to repeal the ACA. Jim Inhofe, the soon-to-be chair of the Environment and Public Works Committee, says global warming is a hoax. Every economist says the stimulus worked and should have been bigger.

      • juandos

        Uh, pretty much read a newspaper or watch cable news and you’ll hear what Republicans believe“…

        Uh, pretty much of a MSNBC/New York Times kool aid drinker, eh?

        Good luck with that…

    • Retrodude

      Conservatives are in reality? LMAO! You guys think Jesus wrote our Constitution, you hate science, and you still think Trickle-down economics actually work! LOL! Comedic GOLD.

      • juandos

        Now here’s some libtard gold here: “You guys think Jesus wrote our Constitution, you hate science, and you still think Trickle-down economics actually work!“…

        retardo_dude was able to make construct a strawman load of crapola, parrot a well known lie, prove that his grasp of basic economics is less than nil and do it all in one poorly constructed sentence…

        This kinds of work deserves a round of applause from your fellow travelers retardo_dude!!!

      • Rob Bailey

        Drop the retardo crap assclown. That term is about as in vogue as the n-word. Oh, but wait… You didn’t get that email either.

    • suburbancuurmudgeon

      We have a firm grasp of reality. You apparently don’t.

  • CobrayRPB

    If the economy is so good, how come black unemployment is so high? I would think Eric “my people” Holder and Barry “my son would look like Trayvon” Obama would care about their brothers. Only for votes it seems. Also, ISIS came about from the power vacuum left by our intrepid Community Organizer in Chief.

    • Peter Mrozik

      Way to avoid the point and head down racist-bagger land!

      • CobrayRPB

        Way to rely on name calling and hysteria you sissy. Where was I being racist?

      • Rob Bailey

        Really, Cob, the racist thing we can get over. The stupid thing, not so much.

      • CobrayRPB

        We? Are you the representative of the website? Where was i racist brah? Seriously, I’ve been thrkugh so mzny racial sensitivity classes in the Army and twice as many in the 4 years I’ve been a policeman. Hell, if you took a photo of me the negative would look like Jesse Jackson……….brah!

      • Rob Bailey

        Good for you, Princess – you value diversity. Now if you valued intelligence. Cheney lied, thousands died.

    • jimv1983

      How is the power vacuum created in Iraq due to Obama? Bush started that war.

      • CobrayRPB

        Congress voted to go to war. All evidence pointed to WMDs and they were in fact there. Do you really think it was a coincidence ISIS started taking all that territory after Obama withdrew the troops? It is 100 percent his fault nd if you read his speeches he won’t even accept the blame. He passes the buck and blames others like he always does

      • curmudgeon VN Veteran

        Liberals do not understand common sense and logic. You are wasting your breath.

      • Rob Bailey

        Good to see you guys get your cuddle time together in fantasy land. Cheney yanked on Bush’s strings, lied to the Defense Department, and had Powell act on said lie.
        Oh well, few thousand American kids get killed and countless thousands of other innocents. Least Haliburton went up. No wonder those guys over there like us so much.

      • CobrayRPB

        I don’t buy the Haliburton conspiracy theory. Congress voted on the war. My paychecks did say Haliburton on them and Cheney did sign them though…….i had a friend whomwas a combat engineer and he talked about setting charges on the WTC too…..hmmmmmmmm its all making sense now!!!!!! Oh yeah……brah

      • curmudgeon VN Veteran

        Your frontal lobotomy elective or court ordered? You sure seem to be a dim bulb. Still happy you voted for Obama and his forty thieves?

      • CobrayRPB

        Sir, you sure said a mouthful. If i can reach just one of these rock heads I’ll have done my civic duty.

      • curmudgeon VN Veteran

        I have given up on ever finding signs of intelligent life in the liberal world.

      • curmudgeon VN Veteran

        Saddam started it and the UN gave him a great deal of assistance. Was it 17 UN resolutions that he failed to heed?

    • Rob Bailey

      Giant fuckin recessions and low gas prices go hand in hand. It’s called lack of demand. Welcome to 2014, brah.

      • CobrayRPB

        Why was gas so high and in such shkrt demand under Carter brah?

      • Rob Bailey

        I’d ‘splain it to you, wut it would be wasted keystrokes ‘cuz you just wouldn’t understand it. Short version is a devalued dollar (Nixon policies) combined with retaliation by the Arabs and consumer panic caused the problems. But like I said, it’s easier just to blame it onn a Democrat, right?

      • curmudgeon VN Veteran

        Nice language. You retards always resort to vulgarity when you have no facts to debate. Your mother must be so proud of you and your wasted education.

      • Rob Bailey

        One of my best friends – believe it or not a Conservative – has a beautiful grandchild that happens to have Down syndrome. Call me whatever you want, Princess, but try to understand that ‘retard’ is not acceptable any longer. Besides that, mom died a long time ago, and my education – couple of butt-in-chair degrees including an MBA – has served me well. But thanks for your concern.
        “Retard” is… IS… vulgarity, brah.

  • jimv1983

    Anyone who thinks the Keystone XL pipeline or fracking are good ideas is a total moron.

    • curmudgeon VN Veteran

      Figured out where you’re going to board your horse?

      • Rob Bailey

        Meh. My company has all its fleet vehicles going hybrid. 100 mpg is not that far out. Hydrogen is not that far out. Don’t think I’ll need that horse.
        For a group of people that live in the past, you’d thing innovation wouldn’t be such a big surprise. No go out there and fire up that ’77 F-150 that gets 10 mpg. Oil companies are laughing at you (like the rest of us).

      • curmudgeon VN Veteran

        No more than the green energy scammers are laughing at you. Jonathan Gruber was speaking of you people who voted for Obama and the democrat politicians you know. They eat oats and grass of the non smokable variety. Get ready for the Dark Ages if you lefties get your wishes.

      • jimv1983

        If the republicans had it their way they would all be insanely rich living in their Nevada beach houses but wouldn’t have clean air to breath, water would be limited and the water that was available would be flammable and it would be so hot outside it wouldn’t be safe to leave their homes.

        Republicans don’t care anything about science or leaving a world that their children, grandchildren, etc would want to live in. All they care about is making more money…. NOW!

  • Matthew Reece

    1. It is an embarrassment for democracy, which is a step in the right direction for human liberty, which requires anarchy.

    3. Their job is not to be a rubber stamp for the President and the Senate.

    4. None. The best way to stop Islamic terrorists is to stop arming, training, funding, and motivating them, which neither Republicans or Democrats seem likely to understand anytime soon.

    5. Yes. Are you aware that politicians like to use Orwellian names to disguise their true purposes?

    6. Obama has not been a success economically. The recovery is mostly false, the result of Federal Reserve manipulations that have created either an upcoming generation-long stagnation or catastrophic Austrian business cycle. Only the 1% are doing very well right now, and writers here like to complain about that, which is inconsistent with praising Obama for supposedly helping to cause it.

    7. Hopefully never, because the Saudis are mostly responsible for it.

    9. Probably because Ronald Reagan was a charlatan who talked the talk but did not walk the walk.

    10. Because they disagree with those positions, and mostly for good reason.

    • Eli Bradley

      Just a couple of replies, as I’m exhausted right now:

      1) Ah yes, I recall reading about how immigrants to these great United States of America would be greeted by the Statue of Anarchy.

      3) Man, obstruction sure does pay well. I’d rather them get paid for passing legislation that might actually get turned into law by using compromise, but that’s just me.

      6) Consumer confidence is at a 7 year high, which seems fairly odd if the 1% are the only ones doing well.

      Oh, and you skipped a couple. 2 and 8.

      • Matthew Reece

        1) What does that have to do with anything?

        3) I would rather them stop giving marching orders to thugs in costumes and receiving stolen money in salary, but that’s just me.

        6) Consumer confidence is high because few people understand what is really happening. They think that slow but steady growth is ahead for the long term when it is not.

        I skipped 2 and 8 because I do not have a bone to pick with them.

      • Eli Bradley

        Wait, are you calling the American people stupid with #6? I am outraged sir!

        I’m also being heavily sarcastic, in case you didn’t realize.

      • Matthew Reece

        I am calling actors in modern economies irrational, and the reason that they are irrational is that central banks manipulate currency away from its free market tendencies, thereby destroying information that would be required for making rational economic actions.

      • Eli Bradley

        So, calling Americans stupid when it comes to the ACA (also known as Gruber-ing) is completely wrong!

        But calling Americans stupid when it comes to consumer confidence is PERFECTLY FINE! Okay, now I’m outraged, and I’m not being sarcastic, because I really dislike hypocrites.

        Apologies. I’m making assumptions about how you feel about the one thing. Feel free to state your opinions on Gruber.

      • Matthew Reece

        What Gruber said about the average American voter is essentially correct. Which makes one ask: if voters are stupid and the politicians are there on their account, what does that say about the politicians? That they are either the best liars or just as stupid.

      • suburbancuurmudgeon

        “Rational economic actions?” There is no such thing.

      • Matthew Reece

        And I just explained why…Try to keep up.

    • suburbancuurmudgeon

      Go away. Very few of us are libertarians and we are not going to agree with anarchy. And since when is 55 straight months of private sector job growth a failure?

      Other than that, I agree with many of your assessments, except for #10.

      • doughpro

        Who has 55 straight months of private sector job growth? Cuz it sure ain’t Obama. Any “job growth” is due to having to replace full time positions with two part timers because businesses can’t afford to provide them with health care.

  • grgreene

    Question 1 is COMPLETELY inappropriate, to be coming from a liberal. If you poll these 2/3 of non-voters on issues that strongly divide red/blue (like raising the minimum wage), significant majorities of them are going to poll BLUE. It’s LIBERAL voters who are staying home. The conservatives ARE voting — that’s WHY THEY’RE WINNING! So STRIKE this question IMMEDIATELY!!