43% Of Republicans Say They Could Support A Military Overthrow Of The United States Government

republicans military coupRemember the freakout earlier this summer over the Jade Helm military training operation? Remember how a number of politicians, all Republicans, pandered to the paranoid fringe that believed President Obama was finally going to unleash the United Nations forces on the Christian gun owners of America and send them to FEMA concentration camps?


Right-wing conspiracy blogs like Infowars and others had a field day riling up their followers with hyperbolic stories about the military taking over, while the rest of us laughed and pointed at the people who believed this nonsense.

I know that in the current news cycle (which is flogging the story of Kim Davis for every last bit of ratings) the Jade Helm story seems like ancient history; but once upon a time, this was all people could talk about.

Anyhow, data and polling group YouGov decided to find out what percentage of Americans could imagine a situation in which they would actually support the American military taking over the government.

Republicans (43%) are more than twice as likely as Democrats (20%) to say that they could conceive of a situation in which they would support a military coup in the United States. Independents tend to say that they could not (38%) rather than could (29%) imagine supporting a coup.

The proportion of the country that would support a military takeover increases when people are asked whether they would hypothetically support the military stepping in to take control from a civilian government which is beginning to violate the constitution. 43% of Americans would support the military stepping in while 29% would be opposed. (Source)

While the idea of the military trying to take over our government may seem like nothing more than a holiday blockbuster action movie plot starring Channing Tatum, this poll shows that there are people out there that would support that idea, and they tend to be Republicans.

Why? Because the Republican base which tends to be older, white and Christian sees itself as being threatened thanks to America’s changing racial and political landscape. Don’t believe me? Look at how popular Donald Trump is right now in Republican primary polling. This is a guy who was endorsed by the KKK and Neo-Nazis and when asked to reject this endorsement said, “Sure, I would if that would make you feel better.”


Is Donald Trump an angry, racist conservative? Maybe, maybe not. Are many of the people who currently support him angry, ignorant and racist conservatives? Absolutely.

Now that we have the first non-white president with an unfamiliar name and the Supreme Court has interpreted the Constitution in ways that they don’t like, it’s no wonder that 43% of Republicans could support a military coup. Based on the electoral college and increasingly hostile rhetoric toward minorities by Republican candidates and pundits, the chances of them ever taking back the White House through means other than force are highly unlikely.

This base is infuriated that the Supreme Court upheld Obamacare, that gay people can get married, and that they have to press 1 for English. They’re upset that white privilege, which is still very much alive, is being challenged by activists – many of them being white. It’s a safe guess that a lot of the 43% of Republicans who could support the military taking over the government also claim to be supporters of democracy and the Constitution, just so long as the two are working in their favor.



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  • Pipercat

    The methodology used by this YouGov seems dubious, at best.

    • Watch Fox news then check out infowars, newsman and patriot news then get back to me on the validity of what conservatives believe and would support.

      • *newsmax

      • Michael D. Rich

        More of the same like fox…it’s all bullshit

      • Xena Amazon

        Also Wingnut Daily and Breitbart.

      • Michael D. Rich

        Fox fake made up shit

      • Pipercat

        What does my comment have to do with conservatives or Fox News for that matter? Point of reference: methodology of polls used as sources require the polls to use basic scientific polling methods. Otherwise, the poll can be construed to say or mean anything. I find the source and the methodology they are using to be suspect. Believing something is true falls into insignificance compared to factual evidence.

        As for checking out Fox News, I think I covered their MO pretty well here:

        http://peoples-news-network.com/2014/04/25/five/

      • Robert Jones

        Most people are just really freaking stupid and can’t help it…. It’s obviously a personal choice to continue in ignorance.

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    • Jim Bean

      What, specifically, do you find ‘dubious’ about it? HuffPo, as far to the Left as you can go without falling off the planet, routinely presents HuffPo/YouGov comparison polls on their sight. Interestingly, they consistently show that liberals attitudes about things are ridiculously detached from the rest of the human race.

      http://data.huffingtonpost.com/yougov/methodology

      • Pipercat

        The methodology and how they conduct it. Moreover, how they phrased the question. Every question or assertion doesn’t have be ideologically based for there to be honest criticism.

      • Jim Bean

        How could they have better phrased the question, in your opinion?

      • Pipercat

        Well, the premise is problematic to start out with, but using the KISS principle: Would you support a military takeover of the government? When you start adding conditions, it seems plausible the numbers would change or go up. Perhaps had they asked a series of questions, then maybe some sort of data could be gleaned. Polls are suspect to start out with, but using basically a “like” system and calling it a poll really adds more questions than answers.

      • Jim Bean

        So you think “Would you support a military takeover of the government” by itself, makes a plausible poll question?

        That’s like asking “Do you support political candidates?”

      • Pipercat

        No Jim, it’s the simplest element of the the question. Has nothing to do with what I think. I think the concept is totally preposterous and would not even dream of asking a question like this in the first place. Hence, why I didn’t ask the question of you or anybody else. It’s also why I (pardon the pun) piped up in the first place.

      • Jim Bean

        Its tough to figure out whose thinking what if we take asking questions off the table.

      • Pipercat

        I never said take anything off the table, I said they should have asked a series of questions to remove the ambiguity.

      • Jim Bean

        “Would you support overthrowing the leaders if they were no longer enforcing the Constitution?”

        If that’s too ‘ambiguous’ for you, you’re not qualified to be a citizen of this country.

      • Pipercat

        We don’t overthrow leaders in this country we have these things called elections. Only a bunch of radical partisan ideologues would even answer a preposterous question such as that. Oh one last thing, leaders don’t enforce the Constitution, they follow it. If they go astray, there is this branch of government that interprets the document and can overrule their application of delegated power. Really Jim, you are in no position to qualify my loyalty and measure my participation as a natural born citizen. That’s just plain ad lapidem nonsense.

      • Jim Bean

        You just told me that if the federal government stopped working you are confident the federal government would take care of it.

      • Pipercat

        Actually, it was a basic civics lesson.

      • Jim Bean

        Actually, it was a lesson in anti-logic.

      • Pipercat

        There is no anti-logic Jim. There is logical fallacy which you are adept at utilizing. This piece basically insinuated that 43% of Conservative/Republican are potentially traitorous insurgents. I find that preposterous based on the methods of the poll cited. Now you come along and use your usual red herring (that’s a logical fallacy, by the way) diversions to do what Jim? Agree that 43% of the Conservative/Republicans are potentially traitorous insurgents? Then you double down telling me I don’t qualify for being a citizen because I believe in the rule of law.

        As my friend Charles would say: Pick your poison, Chief! Rule of law or chaos?

      • Jim Bean

        You’re ‘logic’ is that the organism whose immune system has ceased to function will cure itself.

      • Pipercat

        Another red herring.

      • Pipercat

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      • Xena Amazon

        Yes, I certainly do. I would never support a takeover by the military under any circumstance. Military coups have historically ended in slaughter of civilians. Anyone who seriously believes it would be different bc it’s the ‘Murican military is seriously deluded. Check world history and get back to me about the countries in which this has ended well.

      • Jim Bean

        I seem to recall that a take over of the British Government is what started this country in the first place. You would never have supported that either.

    • Mainah

      That and the fact that the number of pollsters not listed, the randomness of the pollsters, nor what type of poll was conducted. Was it a survey, was it random?

      • Pipercat

        Precisely!

  • ratherdrive

    If this poll is valid, 43% of Republicans would be potential traitors. Seems a little high.
    Maybe a do-over? Scientifically, this time?

    • Pipercat

      There’s an echo in this room 😉

      • ratherdrive

        (For emphasis.) 🙂

    • SickOfConservatives

      Looking at the actions of the 47 Traitors and the domestic economic terrorists in Congress always threatening shutdown, and reading right-wing comments on these message boards, I’d say 43% is being kind, I’d say 47-50% are potential traitors.

      • Tripin S

        Enjoy 8 years of Trump snowflake.

      • You won all three branches of government but felt the need to respond to a year old post. Who’s the snowflake?

    • Mike Jones

      The left are the survivors from the short bus we crashed and set a blaze.

  • Cemetery Girl

    I am sort of curious, but not enough to go searching for an answer, what is their Jade Helm view now? Are they thinking they scared off the tyrannical President (as they believe him to be) for now? What is the conspiracy explaination for training exercises not endind in population imprisonment?

    • Jim Valley

      Oh, who knows? They have probably moved on to some other crazy thing by now.

      • SickOfConservatives

        They have. Hillary’s e-mails.

  • Jim Bean

    Obama swore in 2007 that he’d be better at uniting the nation out of its ‘ideological gridlock’ than Hillary. 7 years into Great Uniter’s regime, 43% of the people would advocate overthrowing the government with military force.

    Was Glen Beck right?

    • Jim Valley

      How could anyone possibly have predicted how horrible and un-American conservatives would become after 6 years of Obama Derangement Syndrome?

      • Jim Bean

        How could anyone NOT have predicted a political strategy of ‘divide and conquer’ would not result in division?

      • Xena Amazon

        It’s not a political strategy of divide and conquer, unless you can convince yourself this there was no racism involved and this was in no way a reaction of white Conservatives to the election of a black POTUS. Let me also point out two further points: The Koch family was the money behind the John Birch Society just as the Tea Party is an astro-turf organization started by the Koch family.

        So… you claim it’s a coincidence that the Tea Party (aka John Birch Society) just happened to pop into existence as a result of Obama’s election? (Sarah Palin directly credits Obama for the Tea Party movement).

        And, it was serendipitous that the NRA and right wing media were telling their base that the black dude in the white house was coming to break down their doors and take their guns? (And how do you explain, in the midst of the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression, the upshot of gun/ammo sales at a time when many Americans didn’t have money to put food on the table?)

      • Jim Bean

        So then, if Hillary or any white Democrat succeeds Obama and continues the policies put in place by him, Republicans will instantly begin to support those policies and all the conflict will immediately evaporate?

        (See what an awful corner you’ve painted yourself into? Doesn’t it bother you that you weren’t able to predict the consequences?)

        What are you going to say when that doesn’t turn out to be the case? Or are you just going to start pretending it didn’t happen?

      • SickOfConservatives

        Your argument would carry more weight if Republicans were rational.

  • Jim Bean

    Isn’t the more alarming thing that the vast majority of Democrats would give up their freedoms and liberties rather than fight for them? That surprises even me. The don’t deserve to even live here.

    • Jim Valley

      About these freedoms and liberties we are “giving up”. What exactly ARE they? The “freedom” to break the law and use your religion as your excuse? The “liberty” to discriminate against groups you don’t like in violation of the Constitution? The “freedom and liberty” to defy court orders, again citing a “higher authority” made up by you?

      Nonsense.

      • Jim Bean

        You didn’t understand the poll question and that’s why you didn’t understand my comment.

        In your defense, the author did try to lead you away from the context of the question, and make you think religion had something to do with it (which, to his credit, he did with considerable success.)

  • Jim Valley

    Wow. And they call US “traitors”. Unbelievable. They love Israel and hate America. Who ARE these people?

  • Kaye Brundage

    What a massive joke this article is. More propaganda designed to spread half truths in order to incite anger and fear. The writer suggests that all or most republicans are white, anti-gay, anti-black, anti-constitution, anti-Obama, gun-toting KKK Christians willing to overthrow our government.

    I am not affiliated with any political party. Most of this article in no way, shape or form represents my opinions, yet I find myself offended by it’s content based on the writer’s ignorance.

    There are black, gay, and atheist gun-toting republicans. Some are Christians who do not own guns. The same can be said for any party. Stop generalizing and stereotyping people with the same pen you would use to criticize someone else for saying all blacks are drug dealing, criminal and ignorant thugs or saying all Hispanics are lazy illegal immigrants. Get some facts or shut up!

    • SickOfConservatives

      Please stop trying to wave around the exceptions (“…black, gay, and atheist gun-toting republicans”) as though they were the norm.

  • SickOfConservatives

    So righties would be OK with a military coup as long as their side was in charge. In other news, water is wet.

  • Arthur Dreyer

    With 47 traitors in Congress it’s fitting of todays Republican party. These tea bagging traitors are not the party we grew up with. And, soon to be extinct.

  • John brown

    Less talk more action. This gov thinks it owns you and me. The time for action is near.

    BBB

  • Robert Jones

    Dumb people…

    You stupid people are aware that no military personnel takes an oath unto the president, right? The oath is unto the Constitution. And a good portion will not disobey their oath, as the military took an oath ALSO to decline illegal orders….such as firing on your own citizens.

    Progressives don’t know jack st about the military!

  • Mike Jones

    Lol I’d rather just break up the union. I’d make more money selling to both sides. The revolution was a mistake the us is a lie Freedom is a fools paradise.

  • Tripin S

    God bless Donald Trump. Now we don’t have to overthrow anything, we already won.