A 5-Step Guide: Explaining Christianity to Republicans

We all know that the Republican party likes to champion itself the “party for Christian values” – though as I’ve pointed out many times before, I don’t see a whole lot of Christ-like values within the GOP. It’s never made sense to me how a gun-loving, poor-hating judgmental clan of people who proudly embrace greed while demonizing the needy can call themselves followers of Christ.



Honestly, aside from citing the Bible to support their stances against gay rights and abortion, there’s really not a whole lot of anything biblically related to the Republican party. Seeing as how Jesus Christ never once spoke of gay rights or abortion. using those as cornerstones of your “Christian values” is rather ironic.

Either way, since so many Republicans seem to struggle with understanding actual Christianity, I thought I’d provide a simple five-step guide for explaining Christianity in terms they can hopefully comprehend (probably not, but hey, at least I tried).

1. Help the helpless, provide for the needy: While it’s popular within the Republican party and the conservative media to vilify the poor as lazy moochers looking for a handout, the majority of Americans who rely on government programs are actually children. Furthermore, the majority of households receiving some form of government assistance are headed by a working adult. While we should all do our best to address those who might abuse the programs we have to help the poorest among us, they are a small fraction of the people who actually receive these government benefits. To be more Christ-like you should ask yourself how can you help someone in need – not why.

2. Be kind to others and don’t judge those who are different from you: Considering that Jesus Christ literally said “thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself,” I think it would be good practice to start doing that in our society. Instead of judging anyone and everyone who isn’t just like you – embrace and love them as you would yourself. If you encounter someone who is different from you, don’t reject who they are – seek them out and learn about them. It’s our ignorance of one another that seems to divide us the most.

3. Be hopeful: Republicans are nothing if not paranoid and afraid of damn near everything. From immigrants invading the United States, to Muslims enacting Sharia law to President Obama confiscating guns – I could spend hours dissecting how many conspiracies I’ve seen Republicans perpetuate over the years and how none of them actually came true. Besides, as people of faith, what’s there to be so scared of? If you truly have faith that God’s in control, shouldn’t your faith always be that blanket of hope that guides you through life? I’m not quite sure how someone can say they have the utmost faith in their God – while seemingly having no faith in that same God’s “plan.”


4. Don’t be a hypocrite: All Christians cherry-pick the parts of the Bible that they want to follow while ignoring the rest. So, not only is it hypocritical to judge others for not following the parts you think are important – when you might be ignoring parts that they think are important – but it doesn’t make any sense. That’s why freedom of religion and the separation of church and state are such great things in this country. Nobody can legally have another person’s religious views forced upon their private lives. Unless you’re someone who follows every single word of the Bible literally word for word you have no right to tell someone else how they should live their life – and even if you did follow every single word in the Bible, you still wouldn’t have the right to force others to live by your religious views.

5. Stop being driven by greed: The entire GOP economic platform is driven by greed. It’s predicated upon the notion that the more we feed greed (tax cuts for the rich) the better it will be for everyone else (trickle-down economics). We know damn well that isn’t true after living through the past 30+ years. In fact, the Bible specifically warns against greed and trickle-down economics:

  • Once the greed-driven have acquired and protected, they begin to covet. They are not satisfied with all they have; their eye is on all that they don’t have. (Luke 12:15)
  • This coveting begets more greed, the greed begets more selfishness, and the selfishness begets more coveting and so on to madness. “The sleep of a laboring man is sweet, whether he eat little or much: but the abundance of the rich will not suffer him to sleep.” (Ecclesiastes 5:12)

Both quotes tell the true story of greed; it’s perpetual and never-ending. The more you feed greed, the more it wants. It doesn’t matter how rich we make the wealthiest among us, or how much we cut their taxes, they’re always going to want more.

A Christ-like economic platform would focus on providing for the poor and middle class, not the richest among us. A true Christian-based economic platform would build an economy where everyone had more than enough instead of just a few having most of everything.

Alright, well I hope this “guide” helps explain things for those who seem to be a bit confused as to what real Christian values look like.

Feel free to hit me up on Twitter or Facebook and let me know what you think.



Allen Clifton

Allen Clifton is a native Texan who now lives in the Austin area. He has a degree in Political Science from Sam Houston State University. Allen is a co-founder of Forward Progressives and creator of the popular Right Off A Cliff column and Facebook page. Be sure to follow Allen on Twitter and Facebook, and subscribe to his channel on YouTube as well.

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  • George

    Jesus only had 2 commandments. Republicans have a hard time naming one of them. Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself

    • Ted Sell

      Loving thy neighbor apparently means taking their money away from them and forcing them to support someone else’s immorality.

      • George

        You mean paying them a wage more than what was a livable wage 40 years ago so they won’t have to get on food stamps? Will cutting taxes for the wealthy that have benefited so greatly from socialism like roads and bridges even letting them pay a smaller percentage of taxes than I do and to top it off with folks like Trump hire 95% foreigners to keep wages super low. Yes those poor poor rich folks. I bet you walk into McDonalds and say something stupid like ” can you believe they pay these folks $10 an hour?” Most folks like you are to good to do that kind of work and are lucky enough to know someone to get you hired somewhere better. One thing you are not is Christian !

      • Ted Sell

        Wages are determined by the number of people who have or can easily develop that particular skill balanced against the need or want for that skill; its not like there’s a cabal to set wages wherever “the rich” want. Want more wages, develop particular skills people want. Cutting taxes on wealthy? History proves it spurs economic growth which increases the number of good-paying jobs, the type of jobs you were just complaining about the lack of… BTW – Those are the jobs we lost over the past 8 years as average household income FELL for the first time in almost a decade thanks to Obama… Me? I grew up poor but my parents stressed Christian ethics of education and work ethic and now I’m not. I care for those who are poor but, like many Conservatives, see the better thing to do is to improve the economic condition so poor people can rise, rather than pursuing the failed socialist economic policies that will ensure their continued poverty; but, then again, an education in economics – in addition to theology – “warps” my outlook I guess.

      • George

        My right to collective bargain my wages is far far more honorable than Trump’s right to screw folks over and not pay them.He does this because republicans stack the deck in his favor and spreads false information and even laws against Unions. I’ve never seen one non union person that came over to work in a Union trade that ever went back to work non union that really wanted to. You don’t get wage increases without a Union. Non unions do not get wage increases without Unions setting the mark. Sure worker shortages do get small raises that come and go but without Unions most folks would still be living in shacks.

      • Ted Sell

        Well, I’ve met MANY. Myself? I was a UFCW, Local 7 member and am GLAD I’m out! I’ll never work union again! Having actually learned economics, I understand how union bosses kill jobs in an effort to save jobs; their economic ignorance is SSOOOOOO horrible. Compare the automobile manufacturing industry; non-union jobs in the US with Toyota, Volkswagen, BMW, etc. pay – on average – $5-$10/hr MORE than union jobs. Having an education helps.

      • George

        What a joke. You were a food worker. I’m talking about skilled trades not non skilled Unions. I was a member of United Garment Worjers of America back in the 70′ and early 80’s. No skill required. I can tell you without that Union we would have paid minimum wage for 20 years. With the Union we were able to get twice that much or more based on your production for 20 years.only an idiot would work for less than he or she can negotiate.

      • Ted Sell

        So, what happened? BTW – Did you noticed that non-union auto makers (skilled workers) earn more than UAW workers?

      • George

        You are talking about production workers not skilled trades people. Big big difference. Skilled trades are Pipefitter, Iron Worker, Sheet Metal Worker, Electrician, Carpenter etc. Trades that take years to learn. These are real Unions not company unions.

      • Ted Sell

        My, we are WAY off topic here but thank you for explaining your distinction. I was not aware that anyone had this outlook but I see the sense in it; almost like the guilds of old, protecting the profession by ensuring the proper instruction and training of the initiates. I get that; its sensible.

  • tresBren

    Today in liberal idiocy: a DEMOCRAT – one who hates innocent things like unborn babies (yes, unfettered abortion is central to your platform) and loves corrupt things like violent felons (Antifa)and elite felons like Hillary – seems to think he can twist Jesus to his sinful philosophy by mowing down a field of GOP straw men. Nope.
    1. “Help the helpless” is rich coming from abortionists, but let’s see – the government is NOT an extension of our personal will. GOP individuals are FAR more charitable that democrats. Your pathological altruism will get you nowhere. And you’ve never studied the concept of good and bad charity. Once you do you’ll feel differently about the welfare state.
    2. “Don’t judge others” means Jesus wouldn’t have to FORGIVE the woman caught in adultery, but he did. Because there is such a thing as sin, and tolerance of sin is tantamount to HATING them. Implied in this straw man is that we hate foreigners because they’re different. False. We believe in the rule of law, and so did Jesus. Religiously.
    3. Hopeful? You call us paranoid while “revolting” over an orange-skinned fascist POTUS who hasn’t done anything? Please. Just as Israel feared the Romans, Islam and Socialism are the evils we face this century and ignoring them won’t make them go away.
    4. Hypocrites? Dude, get some new material. You can’t try to destroy Christian cake makers and Sisters of the Poor and then say no one can force religious views on others. The state is your religion. Said Pot to the Kettle:”You’re black.” And ignorant.
    5. You can’t call for the confiscation (AKA STEALING) of other people’s wealth while calling them greedy. You’re lazy and covetous. The DNC named “trickle-down economics” is the reason our poor have air conditioning, TVs, iphones, the internet and opportunity in this country. If you don’t allow curious rich people to risk their money investing in actual progress (not your “progress” toward an all-powerful government stomping on the face of man forever), society stalls. Like Cuba. Like Venezuela. Your socialism means elites (like the Clintons and their lapdog media) get toilet paper and healthcare and everyone else get your empty promises.

    • DAV

      I realize that since what we may laughingly call “your mind” is made up and facts don’t particularly matter to you, but I’ll give it a try anyway. Please stop using Fox “News” as your sole source of information about the world. Outside of “Foxland” you sound like a paranoid idiot who hasn’t seen reality in decades. Your so called facts about Jesus are lifted straight from the “Big Book of I Hate Everyone” rather than the Bible which is the actual source of the teachings of Christ. I suggest that you actually read the New Testament in its entirety before you post again. Jesus said to “Love thy neighbor” you don’t – you hate your neighbors and blame it on Jesus. Jesus said to help the poor and hungry and you don’t want to so you blame it on Jesus. Jesus said to treat people the way you yourself want to be treated and you certainly don’t unless you hate yourself as much as everyone else. So, learn a bit about Christianity before you post any more about Jesus.

      • tresBren

        Poor troll. So totally out of material. Mentions Fox news and thinks it’s an argument. I don’t blame Jesus. I blame DEMOCRATS. The poorest cities in America have been under DEMOCRAT control for the last 75-120 years (but I guess facts don’t matter to you). I have the finest Biblical education one can possess and you’re ad hominems don’t stand a chance against me. You’re wrong, and no, I get NONE of my facts from Fox. But I know where you get your facts because you’re all the same. Same tired lines. Jesus did not say “if your brother is in need” build a government program or blame the rich. He said “YOU feed him.” Note the pronoun. Be the change you want to see in the world, move out of your parent’s basement and stop watching fake news.

      • Mr-DJ

        Wrong again “tresBen”. The highest concentration of people on welfare are in Red States.

      • Donna Sherman

        And they’re white.

      • Rich Phonology

        Highest poverty rate is California. Also, if you eliminated the inner cities from those “Red States” you’d find that they are actually doing better than the rest but don’t let facts get in the way of your false construct.

      • Mr-DJ

        Congrats tresBen! You are doing such a great job of coming up with your “Alternative Facts” (Lies). SCROTUS, the Great Pumpkin would be so proud!

        You just can’t make this shit up, folks! Seriously – you can’t. So stop it. Here’s some lessons in truth..

        FACT: Poverty Level by state = California is 18th, not first.

        FACT: SNAP (Food Stamps) = California ranks 40th, Deep South Bible Belt Red States dominate the top spots.

        Bless your heart….

      • Mr-DJ

        Congrats! You are doing such a great job of coming up with your “Alternative Facts” (Lies). SCROTUS, the Great Pumpkin would be so proud!

        You just can’t make this shit up, folks! Seriously – you can’t. So stop it. Here’s some lessons in truth..

        FACT: Poverty Level by state = California is 18th, not first.

        FACT: SNAP (Food Stamps) = California ranks 40th, Deep South Bible Belt Red States dominate the top spots.

        Bless your heart…

      • Rich Phonology

        Uh – Politifact is left leaning and they agree with me. Bless your heart . . . lmfao: http://www.politifact.com/california/statements/2017/jan/20/chad-mayes/true-california-has-nations-highest-poverty-rate-w/

      • George

        How’s come the right do not have a fact checking site? Don’t you find it weird there are no right leaning fact check sites. That’s because they are facts verified by both a republican and democrat sometimes a independent. But one thing for sure facts are facts. If you voted for a man that says Andrew Jackson didn’t like the Civil War then obviously facts and respect for the truth are not your strong point.

      • Rich Phonology

        Interesting attempt to evade the proof I presented. Left or Right the factcheck here has proved my point inarguably. ha ha ha ha wow

      • frankig

        if we do have the highest poverty rate, it’s bolstered by the homeless who come here for the weather that isn’t to die for. I suppose it’s how you measure poverty. It’s very expensive here so a decent income in Iowa would barely get one by here. But there are other kind of wealth than stuff. Stuff is time consuming, less time to enjoy the beaches & mountains & hiking trails…

      • Rich Phonology

        Nice story but it is Democrat leadership prioritizing entitlements for the innercity folks. The infrastructure is crumbling and we don’t have the funds. We couldn’t even fix our dams when they had no water in them.

      • kennyddd

        Show me the facts hypocrite..show me one credible source that doesn’t show 8 out of the ten poorest states as being run by republicans that have been in office for at least 10 years

      • Rich Phonology

        How f’n stupid are you!?!? look up ONE post! ha ha ha ha ha ha lefties

        “Uh – Politifact is left leaning and they agree with me. . . . http://www.politifact.com/california/statements/2017/jan/20/chad-mayes/true-california-has-nations-highest-poverty-rate-w/

      • Patricia Garvin Fox

        Sure. True Greedy Old Party logic: if poverty abounds in inner cities, simply eliminate it from consideration. Jesus wept.

      • Rich Phonology

        Jesus wept *after he observed your thought process. There . . . fixed it for you.

      • steph

        Yes, we should all feed them. Single payer healthcare is a good start. Living wages and minimum income. I’ll bet Jesus could get behind that. Oh, almost forgot… publicly funded higher education at the local level. (And pre k) My family is happy to chip in for that and my husband is an atheist. How about your family Miss Bren?

      • tresBren

        Single payer would become the boondoggle it is elsewhere, where the old and infirm die in waiting rooms. We need market forces. We already have a single payer system in the USA – it’s called the VETERANS ADMIN and it’s horrible. Minimum incomes incentivize not working, and no, Jesus would not support any of that crap. And don’t conflate all that with public education. Public education is paid for at the local level, where Democrats try to prevent families from opting out of bad schools for alternatives. You think Jesus would want the poor to suffer until subpar healthcare and education to bolster badly run government/labor organizations? No.

      • steph

        Hey Bren, I hear the rhetoric. It’s noting new. It’s old and it’s tired and it’s been tried and tried and it hasn’t worked yet. When you let the market drive every community decision the market ( those that profit) decides who is and is not of value. Typically, it does not end well for those lacking power (i.e. wealth) BTW, why do you suppose you have the right to speak for what Jesus would or would not like? No place in the bible does it say Christ would not care for single payor healthcare or public higher education or a living minimum wage. NO PLACE! I have read that book cover to cover. ( a few times) I did, however, read many times an exhortation to feed the poor, heal the sick, care for the children, love your neighbor ect. ect. If you’ve not visited the text in a bit, I would suggest a reread. Don’t cherry pick. New Testament front to back. BTW, the Veterans hospital cared for both my parents. It may not be a 5 star resort but it took care of them when they needed it. Medicare and medicaid care for our elderly,infirm and poor. I would not give any of that up for any kind of tax break. Could things be improved on? Of course. Your kind of complaining is so typical of the selfish. You would have the perfect be the enemy of the good just to keep a little more gold in your pocket. It’s not the laws, the religion or the poor. It’s people like you Bren. Folks are already going hungry, losing their lives and worse. They need help now. They can’t wait. While you complain about what won’t work someone down the street from you suffers… someone down the street from you dies. If you don’t think God sees what your doing and knows your heart you are mistaken. If you truly do claim to be a child of God woe betide you. It would be much better that you be ignorant of his word rather than know it and pervert it.
        BTW, I lived in Canada for about three years. I never worried about healthcare. My children didn’t either. I asked many a Canadian citizen how they liked ( or not ) their healthcare system. There wasn’t a single person I spoke to that would ever want a system such as ours. I asked them if they would give it up for lower taxes. I didn’t get a no. I got a HELL NO! Every single time. You speak as if you’ve got a lot of authority behind your words Bren but thus far I see nothing to back up what is essentially the same old selfish, trickle down song that is sin in and of itself. Tell yourself whatever you want if it helps you sleep at night but just remember… you may convince you but that does not change God’s word nor his mission for his children.

      • Irina von Korff

        Anyone can opt out of public school to teach a home program or enroll their children in a private school. Since you don’t believe that our taxes should go to the common good, then I’m sure that you disagree with DeVoss regarding TAKING PUBLIC FUNDS out of public schools to pay the private schools!

      • Marvin

        TresBren — “. . . I get NONE of my facts from Fox.” I’ve been reading your responses, and if you’re being truthful, and I strongly believe that you intend to be, you think like Fox “news” whether you binge watch it or not.

      • Mr-DJ

        Just a point of fact – You, tresBen are the “troll” here. And I DO hope we don’t have to explain THAT to you also.

      • tresBren

        I added actual counterargument. That isn’t ad hominems and telling me to get off Fox News. You’re the troll, and an asshole.

      • Claudia Morris Chappo

        tresBren, I think your Christianity is showing…NOT

      • Rich Phonology

        You won, they are just incapable of anything but emotion. Facts mean absolutely nothing to the left. If it doesn’t “feel” right it can’t possibly be.

      • BLong

        “I have the finest Biblical education one can possess” care to elaborate on what exactly this is?

      • kennyddd

        That’s funny if your citing poor this or poor that as in cities. Look up the poorest states hypocrite..They are year after year the ones run by Rupublicans..right now HYPOCRITE. look um up. Also look up the least educated states .again. Year after year its States run by repubs by a long shot.

      • Rich Phonology
      • George

        Amen

    • Darick Troutman

      I appreciate you but we live in the blessed and wealthiest countries on Earth and somehow a taxation on the richest of people which there are companies like I believe GE that hasn’t paid taxes in a few years maybe longer but the poor absolutely have to pay taxes on the gas and the things they buy every month the way everyone else does and income tax unless they are really poor but we have forgotten and taking for granted the what America is really how easy things could drastically change when people despise the taxes they pay most of the taxes goes to corporate welfare not just the food stamps the food stamps actually benefit local businesses and the healthcare thing Jesus would literally whipped the Republicans for taking Health Care away from the poor like he did the accountant but yes we need to clean up a lot of abuse in a lot of these departments but how do we clean up the abuse and assure that truly needy people don’t fall through the cracks and get cut off it’s very difficult why don’t you and I get together and figure it out I have been wealthy but very very very comfortable and now the economy in 08 and my mother’s health and a bad business decision I am one of the poor living in poverty and I have learned so much from being in both areas people that have lived in the poorest communities that you know what it’s like to be on the other end of the spectrum really should be some of the people making or advising on these programs for the poor and flood should be taken away but all in love I hope you’re well and I hope I continue to be well thank you

      • tresBren

        You don’t get to pretend Obamacare is caring for the poor. My insurance premium and deductible more than doubled. It was on course the country to cost a TRILLION dollars in 10 years and was running the poorest of off full time work. This is because we link healthcare with a job, because government interference has protected regional monopolies, and because this system separates doctor from patient. The GOP has to kill it and get out of the way.

        Reply

      • Sid Plait

        The GOP was the CAUSE of the ACA being what it is instead of what it could have been (and what it still could be). All of the different portions of the bill that could have regulated the insurance companies were basically removed by the GOP. The funding that would reduce costs was cut drastically so the GOP could say, “Obamacare doesn’t work”.

        There are a number of easy fixes that could be applied to make the ACA work for more Americans and reduce some of the costs, but it’s rhetoric like yours that poisons this for everyone.

        My Healthcare costs went up 22% per year for the seven years before the ACA was passed except for one year, when it jumped 45%. This was BEFORE the ACA, so your comment about costs are all about you, and not the millions of Americans being screwed by the insurance companies.

        You really don’t know what you are talking about and are very selfish.

      • Mr-DJ

        What an idiot. I was on Aetna with a $500/month premium on it’s way to going up to $625/month. Then I got ObamaCare. $125/month. Same deductible. NO lefetine cap. Most preventative was Free. You obviously drank the koolade from Fox. Did you even HAVE ObamaCare? It only applied to about 11% of population. Most idiots AGAINST it quite the premiums as they are BEFORE the scheduled discount is applied. Oh, and my ObamaCare plan was also through Aetna, and I had a choice between 10 other companies. AND I live in Texas which didn’t even have it’s own exchange. And MINE is the TYPICAL story of ObamaCare, not yours, “tresBen”.

      • tresBren

        Yours is an exception (and probably a lie). 30 MILLION lost their doctors, most of them found their premiums double, and again, it’s not economically viable. That’s why insurance companies – including Aetna – are dropping off it. Stop swilling your DNC Koolaid and try to imagine a better system. There’s GOT to be a better one than this, and only when we stop “comprehensive” solutions and allow our 50 experiments in liberty to experiment, we can find it.

      • Janet Kroenke

        Obama care saved my life. If it were up to people like you I would be long gone. Insurance companies are leaving the ACA because they’re afraid of what might happen under Trump’s administration. You don’t know what you’re talking about–and oh, how many people here are living in their parent’s basement EXCEPT maybe you.? LOLOLOLOL

      • tresBren

        Shall I use the rubber/glue analogy with you? No, you’re not smart enough. Cling to your lies like a teddy bear. It’s all you have.

      • Mr-DJ

        First of all “F-YOU”. I am not a liar.
        Secondly, 30 million is such a YUGE LIE as only about 11% of our 300 mil population was even ON Obamacare. So you can’t say EVERY ONE of them lost their doctors. I kept all of my same doctors, as did nearly everyone else I know. Since you don’t seem to understand that Obamacare is not actual insurance itself that people get, let me inform you – You still get your insurance thru Aetna, Humana, Blue Cross, etc.. And in case you didn’t notice, because your sources don’t report it, every single person the GOP paraded across their stages during the campaign to go on and on about how horrible Obamacare was for them, were staged, paid, and liars. The truth came out after EACH one of them ‘performed’. So the since you seem to know so much, why don’t you tell the GOP. They couldn’t seem to find one LEGITIMATE story to tell.

      • tresBren

        Firstly, you’re in a GOP state, so thank your lucky star you don’t live in a DNC state.
        Secondly, your paranoia is of no use to me so long as you don’t shoot at GOP. Yes, you’re one of those people.

        Lastly, F-you. What you don’t make up, you pull from fake sources. Expand your perspective.

      • Mr-DJ

        Apparently you need to look up the word “Paranoia” – and then look in the mirror. Of course it all makes since now that you’ve revealed yourself. You are just blindly following the GOP platform. The ONLY one: PROJECT and DEFLECT – EVERYTHING.

      • Frank Vittoe

        hmm….I couldn’t afford ObamaCare. My ex-wife takes over half my pay for child support. Nobody offered me any help.

      • debra517

        if you willingly ‘shacked up’ (as you so charmingly put it in a previous post), then you are responsible for the children you created

      • Frank Vittoe

        Of course…and I am willing to pay a reasonable amount…but because of the amount the court awarded my wife, I literally go days without eating…but I suppose if I get sick and die because of medical complications because I can’t eat healthy then my ex wife will be better off because then she’ll be getting no child support at all….yeah, that’s an interesting view point….

      • Frank Vittoe

        oh, and because of the amount of my income, I don’t qualify for government assistance….isn’t that interesting….I make too much money to get help, yet I go hungry 5 out of 7 days in a week….gotta love America

      • Frank Vittoe

        and I didn’t have to be charming….I could have said “willing let herself get fucked”….would that have suited you better?

      • Paul Duca

        Mr. Bren wants to think Trump will mean doctors will come to his house to care for him, and be content to be paid with a chicken

      • Sid Plait

        That’s not why insurance companies are pulling out. They’re not losing money. They just aren’t as profitable as they want to be in some places. Take a look at the P&Ls and what the executives make. They aren’t even close to being unprofitable.

        I wouldn’t go around calling someone a liar (or even a probable liar) when you have no idea if that’s true. My story is true and there are thousands of stories, maybe tens of thousands, very similar to mine. That’s not even counting those whose lives were saved because they could get healthcare through the ACA when they couldn’t before.

        I know some people lost their doctors, and that was very unfortunate, but that wasn’t the intent. I lost mine.

        However, my premiums dropped by over 20% the first year and the rate of increase has stayed quite a bit below what it was before the ACA.

        The number 30 million is a made-up number thrown out by Fox and other right-wing sites that has no basis in reality. Neither does rates that doubled.

        You really should do research on sites that are unbiased, not just on the BS passed out on Fox and friends.

      • tresBren

        OMG, you’re not only wrong, you’re still spouting the same tired leftist throw backs.

    • Patrick

      **yawn*** -BURP- **(fart)**

      • Paul Duca

        Yes, that is the limit of Mr. Bren’s intellectual capacity

    • Mr-DJ

      Wrong again “tresBen”. Progressives do not ‘support’ abortion. We support having that person considering it, be able to make that choice between their families, and their doctor, and having a place to go to get the best advice on alternatives to abortion (which would PREVENT ABORTION) such as adoption. And where they could get a safe abortion should they decide to take that route, rather than a butchering in a back alley.

      If you “pro-birth” advocates had your way you would also want to stop the practice of allowing a parent to leave an unwanted child at a fire station anonymously, which prevents them from just tossing them in a dumpster.

      It’s the same thing. Once the decision has been made, even if it’s a bad one that we don’t agree with, at least minimize the damage.

      • tresBren

        You’re wrong. Hillary advocated partial birth abortion and claimed that babies did not have constitutional rights until it left the hospital. That’s EVIL from a Christian perspective. Planned Parenthood is an abortion mill, and provides almost no other services, so advocating public funds for that organization is tacit approval of murdering babies. And it’s a racist organization from its inception. No, you don’t get to call yourself a Christian and support the DNC.

        No, pro-birth advocates would not want to stop anonymously leaving babies at fire stations. Where do you get this crap?

      • Mr-DJ

        Still wrong, this time about PP. Only about 3% of their operation had anything to do with abortion. And NO FEDERAL MONEY was ever used for that. They couldn’t – it was already against the law. You are seriously one most ILL INFORMED person! And don’t be pulling the “Christian” card as if it is somehow a convenience you can use when you need it, because most everything you support here, and the very WAY you support it, is Un-Christian.

      • Chris Nicastro

        ” Hillary advocated partial birth abortion ” yes and so ? That doesnt mean she speaks for all liberals or in fact ANY OTHER person as your protest claims. That is another logic flaw on your part.

      • tresBren

        And you’re evil. Read the article falsely claiming the GOP doesn’t know Christianity when every word I’ve said is true. You’re responses prove it.

      • Chris Nicastro

        Actually to correct you since you again took it out of context is this ” Either way, since so many Republicans seem to struggle with understanding actual Christianity, I thought I’d provide a simple five-step guide for explaining Christianity in terms they can hopefully comprehend (probably not, but hey, at least I tried). ”

        It says “so many rep. SEEM to struggle with understanding actual Christianity…” and then the article lists 5 examples on how their political stance is in conflict with what Jesus Christ taught.
        So yes the article IMO is correct and you are not.
        BTW I detailed on how you were wrong, all you did is proclaim I am not. Care to actually counter my responses with how and why ?

      • Paul Duca

        Another imbecile who thinks Christianity has done ANYTHING for him…

      • Patricia Garvin Fox

        Now you’ve done it. You are as incorrect as you are stupid. There is no such thing as partial birth abortion. It is a negative term used to demonize an intact D&E, a procedure often used in far less common second trimester or later abortions and these often are for severe fetal defect or maternal danger.

        Get it through your head what your “evil” actually means to someone who wanted a baby but had serious reason to terminate. Perhaps the parents would have wanted tosay goodbye to their child. Intact D&E would have allowed that and is less traumatic to their pregnant woman. Because of fools like you, now the only option is chopping the fetus into pieces small enough to remove,hopefully with not too much damage to the uterus and cervix. How compassionate of you!

        Clinton never made any such claim and less than 3% of Planned Pareenthood services involve abortion. You have no clue. Furthertmore, you do not have the right to say who may call themselves Christians. I will say you can call yourself that, but you sure don’t act like Jesus asked us to act.

      • tresBren

        Your 3% figure is absolutely false. And yes, you’re evil. FYI: JESUS said: “If you who are evil know how to give good things to your children…” But then, you libs wouldn’t know the actual Bible. This article claimed the GOP doesn’t know Christianity and in one post I have you all actively justifying the murder of unborn children and parsing words. Screw all of you. You’re evil. Your belief in govt is a farce and that’s why you’re being thrown out of office at every level. Repent.

      • Order23

        I would have thought you support planned parenthood, since it provides contraceptive services, and thus reduces the pregnancy rates and thus abortion rates.

      • colnzgprnts

        We conservatives do not support abortion, we support letting the God who created the infant and put that baby in the protection of a womb. make the ‘choice’

      • SunKing

        Which God? That is one stupid theory.

      • Frank Vittoe

        I’m neither conservative nor liberal. Anyone who claims to be one or the other is an idiot and unfortunately the country is full of them. I do know without a doubt, however, that there is only one God, the God of Abraham and Isaac, the God who sent His Son into the world to save it.

      • SunKing

        You poor dumbass

      • Frank Vittoe

        seriously? name calling?

      • SunKing

        No…character description.

      • Paul Duca

        You can get in touch with the dope…his real name is Pat Donlon, from Inro, SC.

      • Patricia Garvin Fox

        And God is the most prolific abortionist of all. Apparently you have no clue what percentage of fertilized eggs go on to live birth. Guess low. And many actual pregnancies fail. Look up miscarriage and stillbirth. And then go on your knees to ask forgiveness to those you hurt further by implying God decided to make their wombs less than protective.

      • SunKing

        Well said!

      • Frank Vittoe

        Abortion is a tricky issue. I see it this way. If a 15 year old girl willingly shacks up with her boyfriend, and gets pregnant, well, she made her bed, she should lie in it, since she already chose to lay in her boyfriend’s. Consequences. However, if that same 15 year old is forced into sexual activity and pregnancy results, it’s not her fault, she should be given the right to choose her own path. Further, if a woman is reasonably sure that carrying a pregnancy to term will kill her as a result, again she should have the right to choose.

      • rreplogle1

        If I’m not mistaken, you will never be faced with making that decision, so you really don’t have a say.

      • Frank Vittoe

        oh I see…because I am a man and can have absolutely no part in the conception of a child, I have no say on the issue of abortion, because obviously I could have no part in a woman becoming pregnant……riiiiiiiiiiiiiight

      • ChristianNightmare

        Nope.

      • Order23

        No, you don’t get it. You have no say in what a woman can or cannot do with her body. and by the way, you’re saying that the 15yr should be forced to carry her pregnancy to term regardless, and regardless of whether they wanted a child or not. Yes, lets bring another unwanted child into the world NOT.

      • Frank Vittoe

        If a 15 yr old, or a woman of any age for that matter, doesn’t want to have a child, she shouldn’t willingly engage in sexual activity. There’s a no-brainer for you.

        And I’m not saying any woman should be forced to carry a child to term regardless. I’m saying that a woman who willingly engages in sexual activity and becomes pregnant should carry to term and have the child. Whether she decides to raise the child or pursue other means, such as adoption, is up to her. But killing a child who has done absolutely nothing wrong isn’t the answer. That’s murder.

        The key word here is willingly. If a woman is forced into sexual activity against her will, there is the very real possibility that she can’t deal with the psychological trauma, and carrying a child to term can exacerbate that trauma.

        There’s also the case that a woman has a reasonable foreknowledge that carrying a child to term may result in her death. That leaves a child without a mother (and possibly a husband without a wife etc.) and obviously the child at this point cannot voice an opinion, the mother has to choose what she thinks best for her and the child.

        Abortion, in and of itself, is taking a life, which is inherently wrong, however, as with any act, there are certain situations which make it a viable choice.

    • flagtrax

      YOu spin well…….

      • tresBren

        It’s not spin. Democrats would rather suck the brains out of babies the moment before they take their first breath and own up to the consequences of their actions. That makes you EVIL. End of discussion. I don’t need other arguments. I’m not saying you have to be GOP, but you can’t be a Christian and a DEMOCRAT.
        Add to that your pathological altruism (look it up), your patronizing approach to minorities, your self-hatred of America in foreign policy, your absolute FAILURE to run most urban areas, and there’s NO reason to join the DNC, even if you were a hedonistic atheist who sold body parts for Planned Parenthood.

      • rreplogle1

        Wow–such vitriol! I’m guessing you get all of your information from Fox News or Alex Jones. You don’t seem to be living in the same world as the rest of us. Your choice, of course…

      • Paul Duca

        Frenchy here can’t handle Le Pen losing…

      • tresBren

        Neither (Seriously, get out more). Reality, though, is persistent. You’ll come around to it sooner or later. Not that I care either way.

      • Zentastic

        Don’t feed the troll. Though this one is entertaining.

    • Rich Phonology

      Don’t bother tres – WAY over their heads.

    • Bob Thompson

      You are a total idiot!

    • SunKing

      I heard you quit buggering young boys? Is that so?

      • tresBren

        Non sequitur. You must have failed reality.
        Oh, BTW, DEMOCRATS are the ones pushing men dressed as women in the ladies room. DEMOCRATS advocate gay marriage, transgenderism (AKA body dysphoria), push pornography, get drag queens to read to children, and are accused (not proven) of having sex with children. So, stop asking if I have children for you to bugger. Go screw yourself.

    • CaptainHollywood

      blow it out your ass, comrade

    • smarterboy14

      We don’t hate innocent things, we don’t love violent felons …

      I’m just going to stop here, we hate idiots like you that can’t comprehend anything beyond a fox news talking point. Good luck to you and the bubble of a world you choose to live in —

      • tresBren

        You clowns can’t get off the Fox News thing. You have NO other arguments. No other cards to play. You’re children. Fox didn’t air those videos of Planned Parenthood employees selling baby body parts. That’s independent and real. Fox News didn’t gin up Michael Brown into mob violence that lead to the shooting of police officers. DEMOCRATS did that.
        So, now, libtard, make an argument or stick your thumb back up your butt and shut the hell up.

      • Paul Duca

        Why do you talk like God has done ANYTHING for you?

    • Chris Nicastro

      You pick Abortion as your way of discrediting this article? How addressing it? Interesting the bible has a bunch of quotes that do not support abortion as killing an innocent life. There are quotes about God killing the unborn. There are quotes that say “life begins at 1st breath”. So while you feel abortion is killing of an innocent life, there is no support either in the bible nor in science. It is only a feeling.
      As for hating tohers who are different, foreigners are only 1 example, others include different religions, different sexual expressions as other examples.
      Hypocrites, yes it is You said ” You can’t try to destroy Christian cake makers and Sisters of the Poor and then say no one can force religious views on others. “, wrong. The court have correctly decided that you have to offer the same service to every one. That denying a regular service/product based upon your religion is not keeping you from practicing your faith in your life. It is forcing your religion onto others.
      And no trickle down economics doesnt work. And your “You’re lazy and covetous” is a load of crap. there are plenty of hard working people who lack the skill set to get the fewer jobs that remain that the rich are willing to pay a good wage for. By automation and shipping of jobs over seas and the dismantling of the unions have all had a hand in this as we see the wealthy doing incredibly well aas their % of total wealth is increasing , meaning they are keeping it while everybody is stagnant or declining.

    • Chris Nicastro

      for your #2 and claims of a “straw man” argument . The article in #2 doesnt specify foreignness. only you do. there fore it is you who is using a straw man regarding foreigners.

    • UlrichvonHammer

      How about fuck off, hypocrite POS Christ-stain? “Rule of law” my ass, you goddamned fascist.

  • Dianne J. Moore

    Great article.

  • Joe Boward

    well done

  • Jeanette

    That’s pretty much spot-on target. Thank you.

  • Robyn Ryan

    No more human sacrifices. Non-negotiable.

  • Karen

    Wow, this whole article and most of the comments are full of hate and judgment toward an entire group of people…who exist primarily in the author’s and other liberals’ imaginations. You might especially look at #2 on your list and take your own advice.

    • Sid Plait

      It’s really hard to consider Christians as a group as people who actually follow the teachings of their Bible when so many are willing to turn a blind eye to those of their pack who actually work hard to make life miserable for others as well as those who advocate violence against others who don’t believe as they do.

      I really don’t like to lump all Christians or even most Christians with those who hate, but, when I don’t see those who consider themselves “good Christians” condemning those who preach exactly the opposite of what their bible says, it makes me wonder just how “good” they really are.

      You who consider yourselves good Christians, why are you not condemning the hate speech coming from the current administration? Why are you not protesting the many things this administration is doing to increase the suffering of others?

      Where the hell ARE you, anyway? How are you not ashamed of yourselves?

  • Karen

    One thing I always consider, when I hear people lecturing others on what Jesus thinks and which party He’d support, is how much time that person actually spends on their knees talking with, listening to, and spending time with Jesus. I would put some stock in Mother Teresa’s views on Jesus, for instance, because she walked the walk. She put in the time on her knees such that she might actually know. Have you, Allen?

  • Rich Phonology

    Wow – that is an awful lot of hate for a “Christian” post. lmao Where to begin? Even at no. 1 Republicans have saved and helped far more needy with their policies than Democrat’s temporary handouts ever have or will. But never mind – Dems are not capable of the intellectual nuance. The only hope is that they do not stay arrested in their adolescence and eventually grow up.

  • Daniel Hammerberg

    Why do the “conservatives” always type in CAPS?

    • Zentastic

      Lack of health insurance to pay for eyeglasses.

  • SunKing

    LOL. Tru Dat!

  • Ted Sell

    Interesting, I made a detailed refutation of the commentary, and it has since been erased.

    • Paul Duca

      No…you think you’re going to be wealthy because you are a conservative.

      • Ted Sell

        Well, I’ve risen from the lower 5% of households by income to the top 20% by applying conservative principles soo….. guess I’m right.

      • Paul Duca

        You certainly have retained the lower 5% worldview in everything else…

      • Ted Sell

        ???? Are you asserting that fewer than 5% of people (or Americans) believe in applying Biblical principles to their lives or something? What are you insinuating?

      • Paul Duca

        I’m SAYING you’re a rude, crude lout who came into a few bucks…nothing more.

      • Ted Sell

        You know practically nothing about me but pass judgment…. hhhhhhhhhhhhmmmmmmmmmmmm. What exactly does the Bible say about passing judgment? Maybe, just maybe, I’m trying to get people to see reality by telling the truth so that they’ll stop their self-destructive behavior…? No, NO WAY I can be that caring and Christ-like, I suppose…

  • wolfman jack

    To be saved you must confess that you are a sinner and ask Jesus Christ to forgive your sins. You must believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God, and has the power to forgive sins. Don’t get sidetracked.

  • Steven R. Silveus

    I think the very premise of this post laughable. The post prior to mine (see below) says it all! Dems. Go back to reading your play book “Rules for radicals” & don’t even attempt to criticize , comment on, or otherwise critique Christianity and it’s tenants. It is not anything you know about till you might be blessed someday to know Jesus Christ. Until you quit rioting in the streets, & posting the Presidents severed head on Facebook, you will never be taken seriously again by anyone with a brain or a heart!

  • Liss

    Wow. I have never been more proud to be a republican as I am right now. As a Christian, I have learned that it is not for me to judge, ANYONE. Who are any of you to question my Christianity? This article is offensive and full of double standards. Keep in mind that it was written in 2015.