Addressing the Republican Stupidity Concerning Jonathan Gruber’s Obamacare Comments

jonathan-gruberI’ve really tried to avoid giving this ridiculous story any kind of merit, but Republicans have acted so absurd about this whole thing that I’ve been driven to write a response.

For anybody just catching up, Jonathan Gruber was one of the many individuals involved in developing both Mitt Romney’s health care plan that passed while Romney was governor of Massachusetts, and President Obama’s Affordable Care Act, which is almost an exact replica of the Massachusetts law.


And it seems he made some rather ill-advised comments in 2013 in a video that recently surfaced.

What he said was:

“This bill was written in a tortured way to make sure the Congressional Budget Office did not score the mandate as taxes. If CBO scored the mandate as taxes, the bill dies. Okay? So it’s written to do that. In terms of risk-rated subsidies, if you had a law which said healthy people are going to pay in, you made explicit that healthy people pay in and sick people get money, it would not have passed. Okay? Lack of transparency is a huge political advantage. And basically, call it the stupidity of the American voter or whatever, but basically that was really, really critical to get the thing to pass. Look, I wish  we could make it all transparent, but I’d rather have this law than not.”

I think it’s important to note that this is a guy who has a history of saying, well… dumb things. And while Republicans are trying to claim he was the “architect of the law,” the truth is he’s just one of many people who participated in creating the Affordable Care Act. So I’m not sure how one man’s opinion suddenly “exposes the truth about Obamacare.”

The truth about the Affordable Care Act is:

So, while Republicans want to distract Americans and rile up conservatives with comments made by a man known for saying stupid things (who said these comments based on his own opinion rather than any kind of official facts), the truth about the success of the Affordable Care Act can’t be denied.


And if you really want to get into controversial comments, how about when Arkansas Republican state lawmaker Nate Bell admitted that the GOP was trying to sabotage the law? That’s an elected official admitting to trying to sabotage the law so it won’t work.

Or what about Georgia Republican Ralph Hudgens, who serves as the state’s Insurance Commissioner, who also admitted that Republicans were doing whatever they could to obstruct the health care law.

But yes, by all means, let’s focus on the unofficial and ill-advised comments of an MIT professor who just happened to be one of many who helped write this law. Because, you know, his comments apparently negate all the facts and truth about how successful the Affordable Care Act has been despite Republicans all across this country doing everything possible to sabotage or obstruct the law.

The truth is, if this is the best Republicans can come up with to attack the Affordable Care Act, that tells me how desperate they are to find anything to try to distract Americans from how successful this law has been.



Allen Clifton

Allen Clifton is a native Texan who now lives in the Austin area. He has a degree in Political Science from Sam Houston State University. Allen is a co-founder of Forward Progressives and creator of the popular Right Off A Cliff column and Facebook page. Be sure to follow Allen on Twitter and Facebook, and subscribe to his channel on YouTube as well.

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  • Macdoodle

    Sorry Libs you cant put a positive spin on Gruber’s comments no matter how hard you try.And when he referred to American voters as being stupid he was referring to you…the ones who voted for Obama and the Democrats.Not a single Republican voted for the ACA.

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      That’s a straw man argument. We’re not trying to put a positive spin on a moronic and highly inaccurate statement. You can’t. The problem for conservatives is that besides being insulting there is no actual controversy. This is simply a vehicle for the perpetual GOP outrage machine. Moreover, Gruber is neither an elected official or part of the administration. He was a paid consultant.

      First, if conservatives want to insist on calling Gruber the “architect” of Obamacare, then they MUST acknowledge that Gruber was also the architect of Romneycare.

      Secondly, it SHOULD NOT be any major revelation that insurance works with younger, healthier customers subsidizing older, sicker customers.

      Thirdly, Gruber did not know what he was talking about. That was obvious because he didn’t seem to understand how Congress actually works, probably because he’s never been an elected official.

      Fourth, the entire controversy is manufactured. He said similar things about Romneycare too about how Ted Kennedy managed to procure federal funding to pay for Romneycare.

      The reality is that if this is the best argument conservatives have against Obamacare, then you never had one to begin with. EVERY prediction that conservatives have made has been wrong:

      — It will blow a hole in the deficit. Actually it reduces the deficit.

      — The website is a disaster. No one will enroll. Yes, initially there were problems with the web site much like there were when Bush’s Medicare Part D was launched in 2005. They were fixed and enrollment beat projections.

      — Premiums will skyrocket. The rate of increase was HALF of what it had been in previous years. Anyone remembering how insurance costs increased more than 100% during the Bush years realized this was a spurious claim. In some cities, the rates were actually REDUCED.

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      • tcaruso01

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      • Gal Spunes

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      • Gary Menten

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      • Gal Spunes

        You clearly don’t understand the case, or the interpretive ruling it delivered.

        The ruling enforces the 10th Amendment, but helps explain that there is implicit authorization to create laws in pursuit of the explicit authorizations defined in the Constitution. The ruling does not claim that the government can simply create whatever laws it wishes.

        There is no Constitutional authorization for the government to involve itself in the healthcare marketplace, nor is there any other authorization that would necessitate laws like Obamacare to achieve. If there were, why wouldn’t our esteemed super-genius Constitutional Law Professor Lightworker Messiah invoke same in defense of his signature law before the SCOTUS?

        The final interpreter of the Constitution is the SCOTUS. However, no ‘ruling’ is final. Judges are fallible and as capable of error as any other human. All interpretations can be overridden, given a superior argument. That’s the beauty of our Constitutional system of law.

      • Gary Menten

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      • Gary Menten

        Let us know when the court declares the Federal-Aid Highway Act or the ACA or the Veteran’s Administration to be unconstitutional.

      • Gal Spunes

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        The ACA, as so much in life, is a complex beast. It has not been ruled – in its entirety – as Constitutional. Only one facet of the law was challenged – the mandate – and that was tortuously ruled as Constitutional under Congress’ taxation powers…despite Obama & the Dems fiercely lying that it was not a tax, but a fine.

        Interesting times.

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      • tcaruso01

        Sorry…the Supremacy Clause and the 14th Amendment override the 10th Amendment!! Well, of course it’s nonsense!! However, you are the one who breached the subject of socialism!! A few socialized institutions does not equate a system of socialism!! Besides, the AHCA allows for people to buy insurance from insurance companies with assistance from federal subsidies to offset the premiums that they would not have been able to previously afford! People are NOT purchasing insurance from the federal government or a state government…it is not socialism!!

      • Gal Spunes

        That’s a revolutionary new legal theory you got there – overriding the 10th Amendment eh? The SCOTUS would be fascinated to hear you explain that one to them.

        Where do the subsidies come from? Oh yes…taxes…that are redistributed….y’know, the whole socialist idea.

        When we arrive at the point that we’re all ‘buying’ insurance from the government, we will in fact be experiencing a more communistic model…kinda like the UK’s NHS. Happy days.

      • tcaruso01

        You post is as misguided as it is misinformed!! Yes, the Supremacy Clause and the 14th Amendment (14 comes after 10) override the 10th Amendment!! The Supremacy Clause has been the basis of numerous legal arguments that have clearly shown that the power of the Federal Government trumps the laws of the individual states!! Plus, we had that little war in the 1860’s that was fought over states’ rights and the Confederacy lost!! Get over it!! And what you fail to understand is that under our previous healthcare system, the federal government was already paying substantially more for personal bankruptcies that were overwhelmingly resulting from uninsured or mostly under-insured unexpected illnesses!! And where does the money come from to cover bankruptcies? So, stop paying your taxes…we’ll see where that lands you!! In the meantime, leave the economics to the experts like underwriters & actuaries!! Communism? LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      • Gal Spunes

        You use a lot of exclamation points. You must be right about everything.

      • tcaruso01

        No, I use exclamation points as emphasis when I’m dealing with misinformation and ignorance and when someone’s comment is so inane that I start to laugh out loud.

      • Gal Spunes

        It was a pleasure to learn all about the overriding of the 10th Amendment by the Supremacy Clause and the 14th Amendment. The Constitutional landscape will never be the same.

        Keep on laughing. It’s all you’ve got.

      • tcaruso01

        Do some research about constitutional arguments and cases that have been brought before the SCOTUS where the Supremacy Clause was the deciding factor in cases regarding the federal government superceding that of the states! You might also want to read up on the causes and outcomes of the American Civil War!! You might learn something!! Tell you what…you keep posting your ignorance and inanity and I’ll keep on laughing!!

      • Gal Spunes

        You clearly stated that the Supremacy Clause ‘overrides’ the 10th Amendment. I would like to know what you mean by this.

        When something is ‘overridden’, it is rendered invalid. How does the Supremacy Clause invalidate the 10th Amendment? They appear to be supportive of one another to me…surely the Supremacy Clause *complements* the 10th Amendment? No?

        It would seem that actual Constitutional law is the opposite of what you are suggesting….but I await your enlightenment!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      • tcaruso01

        You’ll never learn anything if someone else is always doing your research for you!! There’s a little thing in the legal world called case law…it would help you immensely to read some starting with the link that I already provided. You might also want to look into the difference between the Articles of the Constitution and the Amendments. Just because an Amendment was written into the Constitution doesn’t mean that the Amendment can’t be overridden later, i.e. Prohibition and its Repeal. Now run along…you’ve got lots of learning to do! Have fun!!

      • Gal Spunes

        So now you’re saying that the Supremacy Clause somehow repeals the the 10th Amendment? Or that the 14th Amendment repeals it? What exactly are you claiming?

        It’s very easy to just dismiss people by saying “look it up” – I’m actually trying to find out precisely how full of crap you are. How far are you prepared to take this utter nonsense about the ‘overriding’ of the 10th Amendment? You can’t even explain your own drivel clearly.

        Please, take all the time you need and make a clear statement about how you believe the 10th Amendment is ‘overridden’…I’m sure it will be very entertaining!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      • tcaruso01

        So sorry that your grasp of the English language is so pathetic that you don’t know the difference between ‘overridden’ and ‘repeal”. I am not here to educate you on SCOTUS case law. There’s plenty of information about the Supremacy Clause starting with the link that I’ve already provided you. You’re not in grammar school anymore…you’re a big girl now who can read and maybe do your own internet searches? Remember to type the words “supremacy clause case law” into your google seach. I’ve got better things to do with my life!! Again, good luck and happy learning!

      • Gal Spunes

        Confirmed – you literally have no clue. Thanks for playing.

      • Gal Spunes

        By the way…since I’m so misinformed and ignorant…would you care to explain how the Supremacy Clause ‘overrides’ the 10th Amendment? (we can get to the 14th Amendment some other time). I’d like to know, because I would like to be a little less misinformed and ignorant.

        The Supremacy Clause states that the US Constitution is the supreme law of the land. The 10th Amendment is the last of the original 10 amendments (commonly referred to as the Bill of Rights) made to the US Constitution. That means that the 10th Amendment is *part of* the US Constitution, right?

        So if the Supremacy Clause states that the US Constitution is the supreme law of the land, and the 10th Amendment is part of the US Constitution, then isn’t the 10th Amendment also the supreme law of the land? How has the Supremacy Clause ‘overridden’ this?

        Curious minds want to know!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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        Boring.

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      • Gary Menten

        Gomer is not really a going concern with me. He thinks he gets under my skin, but he doesn’t. Every now and again however, he tries to fake having intellect and posts something he’s copied somewhere but doesn’t understand and I can’t resist the opportunity to tear him a new one. Then after a weak stab at defending his idiotic post, he goes back to calling me a pornographer or pedophile or whatever. Irrelevant troll garbage. It’s not even worth responding to.

        Meanwhile….there’s other clowns what needs to be set straight. ;o)

      • regressive teaparty trash

        im starting 2 believe he is a teenager with no life; buried upon a computer

      • Gary Menten

        Of course he is. A virgin too. I suspect maybe even a girl.

      • regressive teaparty trash

        that will be one aesthetically displeasing female,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, especially with such a limited IQ

      • Gary Menten

        Hence the anger, the sociopath personality. Either Gomer is a an angry little male virgin or an angry little female virgin, but Gomer has never denied or responded directly when I’ve accused implied his/her virginity. A guy, even a virgin, almost certainly would. If Gomer is a woman however, claiming to have slept with women would imply (in her own head) that she’s a lesbian, and this may be too much. Gomer also sometimes uses language that I find a bit flowery for a male. It isn’t much to go on and I might be wrong. Gomer could be a guy with serious issues.

      • regressive teaparty trash

        perhaps because “virginity” is a dual-syllabic word; and he/she cannot fathom its existence?

      • Gary Menten

        There are other little clues. Notice how viciously Gomer went after the the girls who’s pics you used for your avatar for a bit. Fairly normal looking real women. Gomer’s nastiness had a ring of “how come these chicks banged and I don’t?” At least I thought so.

      • regressive teaparty trash

        agreed,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, but I must add: veronica and Kathy are NOT “normal” looking women…. they both mimic the playboy pages of 1970s looking females: IE- no tattoos,,,no boobjobs,,,, nice long hair and curvy !
        considering Ronnie is 48 and kat is 50; well…………. U can understand my position: but I clearly see your point VISAVIS the trolls we have been dealing with!
        ====================================
        I do not understand their purpose here

      • Gary Menten

        Their purpose is to sow discord.

      • regressive teaparty trash

        sans expatiation; I agree

      • YHWAY

        Gary- you filming Lord of the Underage boys tonight. Dirt bag

      • regressive teaparty trash

        duuuude,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,I loved the way U went after those religious idiots!!!
        lets both tear them up — U had me in f*cking stitches reading your abuse of them!!
        they mustve bitchad about U because all of your posts abuuusing them are gone,,,I loved it!!

      • regressive teaparty trash

        gary,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,read my above LONG WINDED reply to his crybaby post to me———– HE claims he made OVER 5oK –per month– as a bar owner; yet he didn’t even know the diff between a 1099 and a W 2!!
        ==========================================
        gotta love regressive troll and their shining stupidity!!

      • Gary Menten

        Yeah Gomer tried to go head to head with me on Carl Sagan’s religious beliefs the other day….except that I’ve actually read and own many of Carl Sagan’s books and know exactly where he stood on the existence of God.

        Gomer also thinks photographers still use conventional darkrooms.

      • regressive teaparty trash

        YHWAY is the newest incarnation of OY HUMID/ IVAN RENKO / etc,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, he actually did go after some religious nuts and I applauded him but he got tossed off rapidly and now he is back as YHWAY

      • Gary Menten

        Yeah, I saw that.

      • regressive teaparty trash

        gary wonders if U are—–again———— BUYING these!!
        ( see: felony possession)

      • youcantgetridofmethateasy

        Just how do you do it Trash? Running a South Beach Pop-up Restaurant with 14 American Employees while engaged in coveting your neighbor’s wife all the while clipping and pasting others photos as your Avatar?

      • YHWAY

        His problem- he is a fat fooker who loves banging tranny’s

      • regressive teaparty trash

        will this include someone elses 1972 MACH1 ‘stang in this photo? ( nov 22)
        ======================================
        U really are fun to abuse and destroy

      • youcantgetridofmethateasy

        At least he doesn’t blatantly lie about banging his neighbor’s wife, owning a Pompano Restaurant with 9 w-2 Employees and 5 1099 workers where all he takes home is $1850 cash a 36 hour work week. You have no idea just how bad a case of Munchausen Syndrome the Trash is afflicted with. Wait till you hear his story of being a Nite Club/Car Show impresario.

      • regressive teaparty trash

        never banged a “neighbors wife”……………. but have had affairs with 6 married women in my life( all whil I was single,,,,I don’t cheat)
        need their names? marlene kirk,,,,,Stacey herman,,,,,gemma Davidson,,,,,Christie ( don’t remember her married name; she was a drunk),,,,,Melinda parros,,,,,,,anthia wiley (WPB internet gal)
        =====================================
        I only owned ONE restaurant– 1989-90 with (drug addicted partner ) mike heitman ( died in iowa 2012) and it was called ” nanas original Stromboli” in Hollywood FL on st rd 7(441).
        I —stay with me here— I CONTRACT ( see: lease/ subcontract/acquire) kitchens in NIGHTCLUBS– never ( see: N.E.V.E.R.) said I owned any other restaurants. I L.I.V.E. in pompano beach- ne 14 st which is 352 yds from atlantic ocean–
        all employees are “1099’s”,,,,,
        oh; and ” all I take home is 1850.oo” is pretty good 4 a single guy with NO BILLS,,,,,,,,,, ( cept the usual boorish crap such as property tax & Insurance/ car insurance ( 3 vehicles– work van / caddy/ 1972 MACH 1 mustang) and the usual crap like cell phone/ electric / cable/ water / garbage(bulk at my commercial rentals)
        again– the $$$$ generated by my 2 LLCs is around 90-92% tax free cash– Im taxed upon rental payments and capital gains VIA stock/option/dividend payouts.
        ======================================
        you really are fun to destroy with facts,,,,,,,,
        do U need my jacket size or shoe size??? maybe my mechanics certification? Daughters business address? ( sole proprietor Photograpy studio) ,,,,maybe a photo of my TEGU or my MACH1? Vin #?? how about my phone number?? maybe my girlfriends email address?
        ******************************************************
        U do make it easy to mock you!
        regale me some more!!!

      • Gary Menten

        Talking about liars, look in a mirror.

      • Regressive man boobs

        Hey loser- how’s life as a libtard?

      • regressive teaparty trash

        superb,,,,especially the stock market $$$$ and living here in se florida ( pompano beach) 352 yards from beach!

      • youcantgetridofmethateasy

        You’re right there. The only one of your examples that are Constitutionally Authorized is the Caring for Veterans. But you’re right, your other examples are purely Progressive over-reaches and therefore worthy of excision. Are you up for the challenge?

    • 47% comment anyone? How long did the GOP spin around that one?
      One guy says something stupid and mostly untrue considering the actual FACTS and suddenly it’s Gospel and he’s Jesus.

      • Ihavecrabs

        Mitch Man. You still fingering your poop shoot daily?

      • regressive teaparty trash

        ^^^^ new troll profile””””
        poop chute? glenn beck???

      • Ihavecrabs

        You and Kim Sara doing the nasty with Bong?

      • regressive teaparty trash

        haven’t smoked weed since jan 19- 1987
        ==================================
        but if u are going to smoke,,,,,the BONG is the ONLY way!!

      • Regressive Teaparty trash

        You and Bongo? You still fudge packing?

      • regressive teaparty trash

        caramel praline haagen daz ice cream only,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

      • Gary Menten

        He makes it too easy, doesn’t he?

      • regressive teaparty trash

        too easy————
        but he is “speshul”

    • Rob Bailey

      Gruber spoke the truth. Something that cons should aspire to (oh, but wait… then now one would vote their way!).

  • Raymond Phillips

    Republicans should not be complaining about “stupid voters”. Stupid voters are why they will control Congress in January.

    • regressive teaparty trash

      controlling,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,and passing NOTHING ( see: nothing) which will help ALL americans,,,,,,,,,,,,,

      • regressive tea party trash

        English confuses me………

      • Ihavecrabs

        Hi I am crabs. How is your fat girlfriend trash

      • Ihavecrabs

        Grammar confuses me

      • regressive teaparty trash

        seems u ge okun sesmeesy me ght isneg skeb ohos he s vaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa\aaa222aaaa222 se=]aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaci]

      • youcantgetridofmethateasy

        We who? Are there more voices inside your head yet to emerge?

      • regressive teaparty trash

        naaaah———— just all the liberal progressives on these blogs who irritate and objurgate you on a quotidian basis

      • youcantgetridofmethateasy

        “Irritate and objurgate” me? You think way too highly of your skill set Chef Trash. BTW, why aren’t you working the Steam Table at your Bodega tonight? Your 14 employees got it covered on the busiest night of the week?

      • regressive teaparty trash

        im off………..I work mon-thurs 1130 am to about 630pm.
        NOTE (a) the club is open til 5am
        (b) several of my slaves are not in the club business; they simply work the car and truck shows
        =====================================
        steam table? our food is disgustingly ala carte
        ==================================
        triple peppercorn cognac ” au poirve” bordelaise for you; sir?
        36 ( appx) hour workweek; clearing 1850.oo CASH
        *****************************************************
        car shows intermittent; impossible to calculate but at 20.oo per car,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
        keep crying– and keep your embarrassing photo off your avatar

      • youcantgetridofmethateasy

        Wait, you’re now saying all you take home is $1850 Cash a week? I know Illegal Aliens with no intentions of applying for a Work Permit who take home more than that laying Bricks.
        And that Faux Restaurant to said you ran? You remember, the one with two wheels and a tub of hot water? You run that with 9 W-2 Employees? And all you take home is $1850 a week? What kind of Clown Businessman are you?
        And did you really throw all your W-2 employees onto Obamacare? And what do you pay your Comptroller/Bookkeeper to keep tabs on all your Entrepreneurial exploits?
        Pinocchio’s nose has nothing over you. No Club Owner anywhere, walks out at 6:30 and lets his business run unattended. Any other Tall stories you’d like to weave?

      • regressive teaparty trash

        nice try little man,,,,nice try!! 1st of all; I said they are all 1099’s——–which shows me U have ZERO idea of any business model if U are forced to conflate 1099’s with W-2s!!!! 1099s are given by me to hem so MY ASS is covered with IRS- I don’t deduct anything; its THEIR job 2 do so——— funny how such a ”shrewd bar owner” as U would NOT know this– perhaps U owned a bar in “la la land”?
        **********************************************************
        NOTE 2 FOOL: my contracted kitchen services a busy NIGHTCLUB and I have my slaves do the dirty work of nights- they are well paid and not micro-managed by me as I have them trained and they value their jobs as they also garner “tips” ( see: gratuities) from the employees that eat and order from them— you would REALLY scream if I told u exactly what type of “NIGHTCLUBS” I have done in the Broward/N Dade county area since 1989)
        I MADE 50K per month in my youth!!!—————OF COURSE U did!!! I could walk on water and unscramble eggs in my youth!
        I also have mentioned to many crybabies ( you perhaps prior? who cares??) that I have 4 (2 commercial; 2 residential) PAID FOR properties here in Broward county which generate a nice TAXABLE(UGGH!!) income monthly which is known to TRUE ‘entrepreneurial’ capitalist as PASSIVE RESIDUAL INCOME– also add the TAXABLE (uggh) GAINS in a well managed –by ME- stock and option portfolio which has gained (roughly as of yestreen) 571% since the 2008 ‘bottom’– I seriously doubt U would know much about selling covered calles to lower average cost upon holdings or ‘hedging’ VIA buying puts with money generated by the income derived BY those sold calls; but rest assured: I do nicely with my holdings ( see: AAPL / BIDU/ RICK/ CHL/ RUSS ( bull spread jan 2016)/

      • YHWAY

        No one believes you. You look like a fool. You’re man boobs are classic and how is Ronnie the fatso!

      • regressive teaparty trash

        u do better abuuuusing the religious clowns
        ====================================
        PS– that’s my 1972 MACH 1 mustang,,,,,,,, with a sweeeet 568 HP “keith craft” motor and 3:90 gears

        Vroooom to those man boooooobs,,,eh?

      • YHWAY

        Hey honey. May YHWAY bless your man boobs.

      • regressive teaparty trash

        ^^^ hey lookie!!^^^^ OY HUMID is ^^^ baaaaak again!
        ======================================
        yet another loser NEW troll profile
        ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

      • regressive teaparty trash

        obviously

    • Watchman on the Wall

      Jewish Illuminati Freemason Zionist global elites selected who was declared the winner in all contests. Votes were never counted. It’s all a colossal fraud and charade to deceive the naive and the gullible. Perhaps you are one of them.

      • YHWAY

        All hail me. I’m your God

      • Watchman on the Wall

        In your pathetic satanic Jewish wet dreams…

      • regressive teaparty trash

        seems your nugatory religious self is making new “friends”
        =====================================
        PRAISE JEEEEESUS!!

      • regressive teaparty trash

        sounds like U wish sex was on your menu……
        then again,,,,,,,,,even drunken strippers don’t want a loser such as you—

      • regressive teaparty trash

        im lovin ya duuude,,,,tear his religious loser ass up!

      • YHWAY

        You fookin loser. Fook you YHWAY is here

      • Watchman on the Wall

        You’re truly desperate, aren’t you Satan? You know your time is almost up. Praise YHWH for that!

  • Gal Spunes

    The only “stupid voters” that Gruber can be referring to are the democrat voters in the general public and Congress that supported Obamacare.

    The smart voters saw straight through the trivially dissectable scam with most of their brain tied behind their backs.

    • tcaruso01

      So it’s a scam to provide health insurance to everyone so that people don’t have to file for bankruptcy due to an unexpected illness? Congrats on your inanity!!

      • Gal Spunes

        It’s astonishing how much stuff you can ‘provide’ when you seize other people’s money and redistribute it.

        It’s a scam to then fraudulently misrepresent that as market-based reform.

        It’s socialism. It’s unAmerican. It’s unConstitutional. It’s illegal. It’s also not fashionable to be concerned with such things any more.

      • cattnipp

        so are snow plows…. search and rescue …. the fire and police department….. public roads…. the electric grid…. the internet…. public utilities… and libraries, among other things we as Americans enjoy in our day-to-day world. Have you denounced all of these things with socialist standing…..and since when is it illegal to require a person to have insurance?

      • Gal Spunes

        All of these things are perfectly within our ability to provide privately. Some of the things you listed are, in fact, private already.

        It is not a question of ‘illegality’, but rather the absence of any Constitutional *authority* to require people to have health insurance.

        Now, per the 10th Amendment, if the several States wish to experiment with this kind of socialistic model (eg. Massachusetts) then that is for the people of those States to decide. They will bear the weight of the consequences.

      • BB-Mystic

        And here we go. I see this whine over and over again. “I don’t want to pay for other people’s healthcare!”

        If so, why are you living in civilization? It comes with the territory, Sparky. We band together and collectively pay for things we can’t afford individually, for the good of all, and if that means that some redistribution takes place, so be it. (And yes, some of my money, even though I’m not rich, gets redistributed to really poor people via programs such as SNAP. I recognize this is how things work, and I’m happy with it.)

        If you don’t like that, then I suggest you buy your own private island, or move into the Alaskan wilderness, and try to survive all on your own, without the benefits of antibiotics, grocery stores, snowplows, police officers and fire departments, and all the other things living in civilization provides.

        As far as being “unAmerican”…America (or that portion of its people still clinging to that Wild West “bootstrap” bullshit) needs to grow up and join the rest of the world.

      • Gal Spunes

        We can voluntarily band together and contribute resources for any number of things. I am happy to do so for those things I consider worthwhile.

        The Constitution is the supreme law of the land. It does not authorize the fedgov to use force to redistribute my resources in accordance with whatever whim you decide is for ‘the greater good’.

        Either you wish to uphold & enforce the Supreme law of America, or you don’t. If you don’t, you’re removing yourself from the founding vision of this country. If you don’t like that, then I suggest you move to any number of European countries that will ‘give’ you all the socialist horsecrap you can swallow.

        The rest of the ‘old world’ needs to grow up, dump marxist slave-statism into the trashcan of history, and join America.

      • BB-Mystic

        You know, the Constitution is not some frozen fossilized thing that cannot be amended and/or reinterpreted by the courts.

        Case in point: the 16th Amendment. “The Congress shall have the power to lay and collect taxes on income, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several States, and without regard to any census or renumeration.”

        Like all the other amendments, this was ratified by two-thirds of Congress and passed by three-fourths of the states.

        So, Sparky, you can whine and stamp about “redistribution” all you want, but if Congress passes a bill to, say, raise taxes on the 1% (or taxes on middle-classers like me, for that matter), or eliminate corporate tax deductions/welfare, and use that money to help poor people or fund SNAP and TANF or whatever else it wants, there’s jackshit you can do about it.

        Taxes are the price we pay to live in the country and time we do. Get over it.

        The rest of the ‘old world’ needs to grow up, dump marxist slave-statism into the trashcan of history, and join America.

        Ha ha ha. Ain’t never gonna happen, kiddo. You know how Europeans and others look at America’s refusal to (among other things) provide health care for its citizens? They think we’re unspeakably cruel and bat-shit crazy. They’re not wrong. Especially when speaking about people whose philosophy in life apparently is, “I’ve got mine; fuck you.”

      • Gal Spunes

        You and I are on opposite sides of the firing line.

      • Regressive man boobs

        Hey Fatty,

        Go on a diet.

        Oy

      • regressive teaparty trash

        ^^^^^ new troll profile^^^soon 2be removed^^^

      • Regressive man boobs

        No one asked you for your comment chubby. What the Fook?

      • BB-Mystic

        Too freaking bad, Oy. I’m offering it anyway. If you don’t want to hear me talk, go the fuck away. (Notice correct spelling)

        *flagged*

      • Regressive man boobs

        BB- have you gone at that diet yet?

        It’s Fook or fookin. In sentence it may say. BB is a fat FOOKIN pig.

        Oy baby

      • YHWAY

        Hey BB- How’s Jenny Craig? OY you fooker

  • CobrayRPB

    Wait until this Ponzi scheme is fully implemented. It is a wealth redistribution plan like every social engineering effort the left has made. The other benefit of this nightmare would be a complete collapse of the health insurance industry and an institution of single payer which the left will love too. Single payer means more regulations, more beaurocracy, and more government control. The fact that the author stands up for these joker is not surprising. What galled us is the fact that Gruber insists how stupid the public is. It is his condescending attitude I dislike and the left wings adoration of his kind. He is a health care economist who read some books and wrote some books. He never managed a hospital or ran a pharmaceutical company. His Ivy League education more than qualifies him in the left wings mind but, like The Preezy, he has zero experience in the real world.

    • Rob Bailey

      Hmmmm. Medicare. Social Security. Veteran’s Administration. Interstate Highways. Public education. Defense. But you partake in none of these, eh Princess? Did you not (could you not) read the article? ACA WORKS.
      And just who the eff are these educated people working to improve the lot of our nation? Those damned ‘beaur-o-crats”. Hell, ain’t a home-schoolin’ good enuff? Read some ‘friggin books. He must be a commie.
      What a dolt (have a third-grader look up the word for you). If you’re not joking, you scare the hell out of me, Cob.

      • CobrayRPB

        You are too old to be behaving like a child in view of all these people. I thought a certain level of wisdom amd integrity came with age but evidently not. Your sunken chested beta male rage is adorable. You shake your fist at a comment posted on some 4th banana bleeding heart website. The ACA works? There are still 40 million uninsured. The law was passed with lies and you people lapped it up like good little dogs because your ruling elite told you that you could be as smart as them if you rolled over. Here are some shiny trinkets….please vote for us!! Gruber was calling you fools stupid, not the ones who saw this mess for what it was. Lastly, I don’t have to explain my education to you but rest assured when I am as old as you I will have 2 retirements.

      • regressive teaparty trash

        hey sh*tbag,,,,,,,,,,,,,, care to comment upon MY physique?
        I will NOTE that U did NOT answer his question: so– I will ask again: do U capitalize upon any of the ‘ socialist” Ponzi schemes that he mentioned? will u disavow your SS benefits??

        keep loving the rightwing party of the dead jewish homosexual carpenter jeeeeeesus– and get those tax cuts to those ” job creators”!!
        (* see: job creation 2000-2008)

      • CobrayRPB

        You look cute with your little gym muscles. Does that make you feel better? Im not going to get into some baseless contest that cant be fought, but suffice it to say I scored 300 during every fitness report I had in the Army. I retired from 20 years service in combat arms. Do you know what a Ranger Tab is? Do you think you could earn one? At age 37 I completed the physical and mental exams for the Houston PD. I outpaced people 15 years younger than me. You couldn’t do half of what I did by the time I was 25. You are an idiot. Social Security is another scam. Ask yourself why they will never allow me to keep that money in a private account. They won’t because they need to raid it to pay for all the other vote gathering schemes. Bravo by the way with the homosexual Jesus comment. Stay classy pal

      • Ihavecrabs

        Cobray That a boy. This guy is a fookin loser

      • regressive tea party

        Cobray kicked my ass. I hang my head in shame.

      • regressive teaparty trash

        don’t fool yourself tough guy——— I lift weights/ surf/ scuba/ play basketball and played semi pro baseball in Memphis years ago– I seriously doubt U can do what I do TODAY—yes; TODAY—-
        homosexual jesus?? lets seeeeee–
        NO WIFE
        NO KIDS
        NO written disparaging of homosexuals
        NO female companions ( 4get mary magdelen)
        ALL ” male revue” apostles,,,,,,,,,,,,,, not ONE FEMALE >>?????
        was he gay?? maybe; maybe not–
        you and your VOODOO quacks can prove / disprove neither
        ====================================
        NOTE: today: 6’2 1/2 213 11% body fat and went surfing early; now to gym to do battle with the lithe Africans ( see: hoops) and then squats
        ********************************************************
        do NOT try me tough guy………..
        “little gym muscles” ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, a bit jealous? got your anemic self overweight???? awwwww.

      • Ihavecrabs

        Seriously. You are fat, double chin and have man boobs. Oh and your girl is a fat slob. Would kick your ass up and down Main St.

      • regressive teaparty trash

        she s total fat pig for SURE!!!
        she 5’8 133lbs,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, with a NATURAL double D cup breast
        ======================================
        what a COW!!! MOOOOOOO

      • regressive tea party

        Her canker sore will go away. Eventually.

      • CobrayRPB

        Im not getting in a pissing contest with you. In my line of work muscle bound guys don’t last. We were never encouraged to bulk up because we were already lugging 120 pounds of gear. If you added 50 pounds of muscle mass you would never make it through selection. How fast can you run a mile? I did 5 in less than 30 minutes. How many chin ups can you do? When I finished Ranger School i went from 189 to 153. Roadmarches of 12 miles would waste guys like you. I’m not saying what you have accomplished isn’t remarkable. It takes discipline, but I’ve never met anyone in Rangers or SF who looked liked Schwarzenegger. Like I said, my PT scores were always 300. I never slacked and I was lapping guys in their 20s when I was in my 30s. I retired as an 0-2 and as a platoon leader I had to be as good if not better then the guys I lead. Also, do you really want to get into a fist fight? One, I’ll never meet you because I’m not about to fly wherever the hell it is you live. Two, this is a freaking political website and your acting like a goon and three, I really could not care less what you think about me. Also, I am not overly religious so your Jesus comments don’t matter to me. Have fun at the gym pumping yourself. You are about as threatening as a hangover. If you haven’t been in a life or death fight then we are not even on the same level.

      • regressive teaparty trash

        read my long post below– these idiots are ” waiting 2 approve it”

      • Regressive man boobs

        Go Fook yourself douche bag. If Cobray won’t kick your ass, I will

      • regressive teaparty trash

        they threw U off already??

      • regressive tea party

        I wonder why liberals don’t like me here. I mean, as athletic as I am they all want to be friends with me. Right?

      • regressive tea party trash

        Cobray,

        I shouldn’t have called you a sh*tbag. I’m sorry.

      • CobrayRPB

        Accepted. I get carried away too. No harm no foul

      • regressive teaparty trash

        funny thing is— that guy ^^^ is not me
        ====================================
        and hes apologizing??
        gotta love TROLL profiles,,,,his newest one is ” IHAVECRABS”
        !!!!!!

      • Ihavecrabs

        How’s fatso doing, mullet man?

      • regressive teaparty trash

        laying her gracile macromastial ass next to me whilst we are laughing at you
        ==================================
        we are sans clothing; of COURSE!!

      • Regressive Teaparty trash

        Stop stealing my fookin name douche bag

      • regressive teaparty trash

        ^^^ notice the Captial R in Regressive,,,,^^^
        new troll profile soooo pissed off at me that he has TWO–yes 2– profiles ( the other says regressive tea – party trash) with a visible space between tea & party
        =======================================
        poor stoooopid troll,,,,,,,,,soon to be thrown off–again and again and again and,,,,,,,,,

      • regressive tea party

        I’m so in love with myself I thought three separate identities would be triple the goodness.

      • regressive teaparty trash

        you are brand new– we can all look this up
        me: regressive teaparty trash
        YOU– Capital R regressive teaparty trash
        YOU(also) regressive tea party trash( spaced word)
        *************************************************************
        I lovvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv abusing you!!

      • Regressive man boobs

        Captain fag boy- how is life being an unemployed loser?

      • regressive tea party

        Sansa-belt, actually.

      • Regressive man boobs

        He/she must love your man boobs

      • regressive tea party

        Actually I did apologize. I’m being Sybil.

      • Ihavecrabs

        Cobray, this guy is completely fooked up. If you couldn’t already tell. He’s an unemployed loser

      • regressive teaparty trash

        ^^^ another of his flaccid new TROLL profiles^^^^

      • Ihavecrabs

        Captain Mullet Man,

        How’s it feel to be an unemployed loser with a fat girlfriend? God Bless George Zimmerman and aged Nugent. Two American Heros. Killing and a grilling baby

      • regressive teaparty trash

        ^^^^^ crybaby NEW troll profile^^^^^
        ===================================
        new crybaby troll profile
        **********************************************
        stay tuned for more new troll profiles as he gets thrown off!

      • regressive teaparty trash

        I wouldn’t know– at 6’2 1/2 213 with 11% body fat and a slim chesty girlfriend,,,,,,,,,,,,,
        I really don’t know!!
        ====================================
        hows the new profiles ‘ paying off”? investing in any annuities?

      • Ihavecrabs

        Your fat ass couldn’t get up and down a hallway, let alone a basketball court. Do us a favor. Quit the facade and man up. You are fat, severely deranged and bang dudes.

      • regressive teaparty trash

        your personal transposition has been completed with that post
        ==========================================
        evisceration now at 100%

      • Rob Bailey

        I like child killers and pants poopers like George and Teddy…

      • Regressive man boobs

        We have something in common. I love them both

      • Regressive man boobs

        How’s life as an unemployed libtard?

      • Ihavecrabs

        And you won’t be fat with a mullet. Don’t forget that

      • regressive teaparty trash

        ^^^^^ troll profile^^^^^
        brand new!!!

      • regressive tea party

        I have a long flowing hair. It’s splendid!

      • strayaway

        President Obama himself said that there were “now more than 30 million American citizens who cannot get coverage” when he was trying to sell his plan. Peter Orszag, head of Obama’s OMB said there were 34 million who were native born and 2.8 million who were naturalized citizens. Eight million have since bought (un)ACA insurance policies. (34+2.8) – 8= 25.8M At most, there should now be 25.8M uninsured Americans according to Arszag’s numbers.

        Meanwhile, the NY Times claims “the number of uninsured Americans fell by about 8 percent to 41 million people in the first quarter of this year”.

        Someone’s numbers are about 11-15 million off or there are now 11-15 million more uninsured now than when this sorry mess began.

      • Rob Bailey

        Touched an (uneducated) nerve, didn’t I Princess…

  • Watchman on the Wall

    Repeating a lie endlessly don’t make it true or any less of a lie. Obamacare is a fraud, a farce and is a dismal failure. That’s the hard truth and we all know it. 7 million out of 320 million Americans covered by yet another government subsidy translates into 2% of the American population which is sucking on the teat of 98% of Americans who have had to drop all medical insurance or see their premiums rise by close to double and experience their access to quality healthcare decline. Just in case liberals are too stupid to grasp these simple truths, let me speak real slowly and clearly: less service for a materially higher prices is ALWAYS a failure and a FUBAR.

    All liars are sons of the father of lies, the devil. The devil has already lost. He knows it and we all know it. All denials to the contrary merely reveal a person’s insanity and spiritual bankruptcy, and that is all. We knew how the story would end: the good guys win in the end and we already have. In two short years, the true identity of the good guys and the bad guys will be revealed. It will surprise many. There are very few good guys left. But that’s not the point. The point is that the God of truth remains firmly in control over all world events and is fuming with rage and fury at the deceit, treachery, fraud, betrayal, immorality and injustice which He sees everywhere. In two short years He will pour out His wrath upon the wicked liars of this world, Allen Clifton here being among them. Bummer for him. Justice is coming…. count on it. God has spoken.

    • tcaruso01

      A dismal failure? Tell that to the people of Kentucky who seem to love their new exchange! Tell that to the people who haven’t died because of a pre-existing condition!! 98%? LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The Devil? ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!The only fraud, farce, and dismal failure on this thread is you!!

      • Watchman on the Wall

        Laugh your ass off now. Kiss your ass good-bye in two short years.

        Simple math dimwit: 7 million on ObamaCare divided by 320 million Americans = 2% of the American population, most of whom are subsidized by others!!! 100% – 2% = 98% of Americans who have been screwed by ObamaCare and KNOW it to be a worthless fraud and hoax of monumental proportions.

        Those of the truth hear the voice of Yahushua (Jesus). Conversely, those NOT of the truth, are of the lie, serve the father of lies, the devil, who we all know is quite real, just as hell and the burning lake of fire and brimstone are quite real. The LIES are now being revealed. The war is over. All liars will soon be toast. God says so.

      • Ihavecrabs

        Gary Menten is a jerk off He’s canadian. What do you expect, eh?

      • regressive teaparty trash

        ^^^^TROLL PROFILE^^^^ new troll^^^
        formerly OY HUMID and STEVE BARLOW and now using MY username and CANADIAN HORSE
        =======================================
        lets hear it for his “patriotism”!!

      • regressive teaparty trash

        your inept/inert/ dead jewish god?
        wow——– I better wear a raincoat ( fireproof) for that apocalypse soon coming
        PRAISE JEEEEESUS!

      • regressive tea party

        I like to repeat things over and over and over.

      • regressive teaparty trash

        especially failing to PROPERLY use my name–
        ( see: space between “tea” & ” party”
        ======================================
        trolls are so intelligent

      • regressive tea party

        I’m talking to myself under three different user names. It’s hard to keep up with all of them.

      • regressive teaparty trash

        such as…………………….
        “whats my next username going 2 be”?

      • youcantgetridofmethateasy

        Dude, what’s with the he/she Avatar? Have you changed your tastes from soft bumpy-bits to hard bumpy-bits? What does your last ‘Avatar’ girlfriend think?

      • regressive teaparty trash

        sorry ; O crybaby– that’s my photo from august when we went to Arizona on a vacation…
        6’2 1/2″ 210lbs,,,,,,,,,,,,,,11% body fat
        ====================================
        wanna bet you look terrible?

      • youcantgetridofmethateasy

        No bets needed. I have you by 50 years. Anyone ever tell you you’re a little too self-obsessed? You drip narcissism with your randomly typed colorectal-leakage.

      • regressive teaparty trash

        you are 106??? or 6???
        ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,hmmmmmmmm–

      • youcantgetridofmethateasy

        So what are you today Trash? The South Beach Restaurant Impresario with 14 ‘American’ employees or the fraud that you really are? And that’s your picture in your Avatar? Seriously? What happened to your next door neighbor’s wife that you were hitting cause your girlfriend didn’t like the stub of manhood that you possessed? Can’t you keep any of your lies straight?
        Do you need a teleprompter like Our Deal Leader does? And why are you with another man’s children for Thanksgiving and not with your own? What did you do wrong? Kids hate your lies?

      • regressive teaparty trash

        nope– I live 352 yds from beach on ne 14st in pompano beach– 55 miles from the scurvy “south beach” to attempt to admonish
        ======================================
        seems u are cavitating fater than I expected u would!
        =======================================
        must be your poor appearance; multiplied by your paucity of playtime money and dearth of attractive women in your otiose life
        =====================================
        then again,,,,,,,,,,,,,U are living( ??) in a landlocked barren state bereft of any good weather
        ………………….. NOTE: 5 of my American ( yes) employees are 1099’s who get paid 100.oo per day to do the car shows we produce/promote. The rest are cooks I have do my labor– also as 1099’s
        =================================
        you ? inept and servile– steatopygous and alopecial

      • youcantgetridofmethateasy

        Really? Another lie? So as the fastest rising Chef of the hottest Nite Spot in town, what’s on the menu?

      • regressive teaparty trash

        here is a signature dish:
        Polynesian sweet & sour chicken ( or shrimp/ U-15’s) with pineapples/ RED peppers/ onions/ broccoli/ shrooms (ugh) julienne carrot/ water chestnuts-sliced- all sautéed together with PERRRRR-FECT timing and adorned with slightly chopped GREEN scallions and roasted SLICES almonds upon the steamed white rice( NOTE: rice is in the middle VIA overturned small soup cup; lifted AFTER chix/shrimp is placed an THEN the scallions and almonds decorate the rice center
        ==================================
        shall we discuss my recipe for Cajun honey chicken? maybe my shrimp and lobster “provencal”?
        ……………..or will the hotdog U so desperately mention need to be “imported” from a nice cheap winn Dixie?
        =====================================
        now,,,,,,,,,,,,,about your inability to know the diff between a W-2 and a 1099,,,,,,,,,,

      • youcantgetridofmethateasy

        Really? Off Atlantic or NE 24th? Hey, do you run the Pretzel concession in the Pompano Square Mall next to the Metro PCS store? Or are you gonna spit another lie and say that you’re J.Mark?
        Does your bravados know no bounds?

      • youcantgetridofmethateasy

        So wait, you don’t have any employees? You were lying? So you don’t pay for their Health Care? You pushed them into the federal system? No profit sharing? You dumped the responsibilities for filing Quarterly Tax returns on them? $100 a day to sell Hot Dogs at Car shows on Flagler? What kind of a Bas-tard employer are you? What happened to your Liberal Centrist Progressive registered Independent morality? Do you beat them twice a day for good measure too?
        Can’t you just stop lying for once?

      • YHWAY

        He doesn’t workhe is an unemployed fooker.

      • regressive teaparty trash

        1099s are responsible for their own health care and taxes,,,,,,,,,,,,,, but as U “claim” U were a bar owner in your ( very distant) youth,,,,,,,,,
        ———–you should know these simple facts
        ======================================
        we do NOT do cars shows on Flagler
        we do large flea markets/ adult strip clubs/ home depots( loews) and large restaurants with ample parking,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, no smaller venues as it simply isn’t worth it
        =========================================
        quarterly tax returns are when I run monies through registers, My business is 100% cash– the quarterly isn’t worth the peanuts the state gives me when I turn in sales tax.
        *********************************************************
        no hot dogs on my menus ) except when I grab large car show venues)
        crappiest stuff on MY menus are “bar foods” such as wings and fingers and food for drunks
        ===================================
        shall I see your painfully inept balding ass tomorrow? lets say– 6:15 at ne 38 st LA FITNESS???? think U can afford the 15 dollar cover? ( I know U aren’t a member)
        ====================================
        now,,,,,,,,, which car to bring?? MACH 1 ? naaah,,,,rain 4cast– caddy? maybe,,,,, VAN? maybe,,girlfriends car?? wow—- hat will boil ur limp noodle!

      • regressive teaparty trash

        ne 14 st pompano beach,,,,,,,,,,,,killer waves the past 3 days; more tomorrow—
        wanna meet me at the ne 38 st gym ( la fitness FT.L) tomorrow around 6pm>? I will be there– with my “fat” girlfriend and U can not only see how tototally disgusting I look ( as well as she) but U can tell me to my face what a “fraud” I am!!
        again,,,,,,,,,,, im 6/2 1/2,,,,,209 lbs,,,,,,,,, long awesome blonde hair ( a bit of gray) and I will be doing back exercizes…
        trust me,,,,,,,,,,,,,U cannot miss me– as I KNOW u have seen my pics–
        so to quote johnnie olsen,,,,,,,,,,
        ” cmon down”………….. come show your decrepid self (note: MACH 1 will NOT be out in this weather)
        =================================
        (PS– J mark is totally overrated as is J alexanders)
        ” fraud”

      • YHWAY

        Do you still bang dudes?

      • regressive teaparty trash

        only ones with big natural breasts and soft vulvas

      • youcantgetridofmethateasy

        So now you’re 56 years old? No children of your own? You have to spend Thanksgiving with another man’s children? Where are your own off-spring on this upcoming holiday? Do they hate you that much?

      • regressive teaparty trash

        23 yr old daughter,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, UM grad; home owner and BUSINESS owner ( photography studio) of which dear old ( old??) daddie paid for; and she is responsibly paying me back
        ====================================
        must bum your aesthetically poor ass that I look as I do– and stay disgustingly athletic– at my dinosaural age; eh?
        me: rudely in shape; all my hair and financially independent
        you: napiform and sans sexual activity; stuck with a slow aging which no one else wants
        ======================================
        care to spread your umbrage as2 what Im brining — culinary wise- to the festivity?
        awwww,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, you ” have me by 50 yrs”
        Hmmmmmm,,,,,,,,,yet another badinage I place at your poorly formed self-

      • youcantgetridofmethateasy

        So what’s on the menu at your restaurant Trash? Do you skim your Wait staff’s tips? And what of that Dishwasher with the bogus Green Card and false Social Security number? You still paying him cash?

      • regressive teaparty trash

        all my employees are 1099 cash- thus: I have no responsibility
        ======================================
        skim their tips? how do I do this when Im not there?
        lemme know– its innnnn-teresting

      • Watchman on the Wall

        You’ll be declaring Him Lord of lords and King of kings soon enough. Just wait and see.

      • regressive teaparty trash

        and after dec 2016,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, what exactly happens??
        let us all know so we can fly to mars to escape YOUR inert “gods” wrath

      • Watchman on the Wall

        You are more than able to pick up the Book of Revelation, starting at Chapter 7, and read it for yourself.

        Do let us know just how “inert” that burning lake of fire and brimstone is once you are in it in a few short years. I assure you that you will be singing a way different tune: that is if you are even capable of gasping for breath…

        Your god Satan hates you and deceived you. Now that your fate is sealed, the truth is being revealed to all. Bummer for you.

      • regressive teaparty trash

        my god is not satan ( who doesn’t exist)
        im agnostic———-do U know what agnostic means?
        no? Hmmmmm,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, educated U are not

      • Watchman on the Wall

        There is only one God who created the universe and all that is in it; you included. But since you play fast and loose with the obvious truth, it’s clear that He created you as one of His vessels of dishonor who He reserves for His day of wrath. As such, like it or not, you are a son of the devil and his slave. Your claiming that Satan does not exist is the oldest and most foolish lie in the book. He OWNS you!

        Agnostic means “don’t know.” I will grant you that you are ignorant and bone ass stupid. But you go way beyond agnostic; no, you’re riddled with lying, wicked demons and your god and theirs is Lucifer, a.k.a. Satan, a.k.a. the devil and we all know where all of you will end up rather soon…

        Hmmm… honest you ain’t… and by the way, I am so well educated and accomplished that I just keep running circles around your deviant butt.

      • Regressive man boobs

        Do us all a favor and rid yourself of my world. You are a kook who probably dreams of sleeping with little kids.

      • Watchman on the Wall

        YOUR world is perishing you wicked and depraved blood-sucking pervert! May YHWH bring you excruciating pain and death within the next year! May you scream in terror at the eternal fires of hell which await you!!!!!

        God’s prophet has spoken!

      • regressive teaparty trash

        who will win the next 2 superbowls?
        U should know that easily enough as U claim 2 know when the earth will end…

      • Watchman on the Wall

        Who gives a rip about gladiator games to amuse the demonic mob?

        You LIE yet again, as the son of the father of lies that you so clearly are. I have not once claimed to know when the earth will end. Only what God reveals to me. I DO reveal when the great tribulation will end, when the blessing date will occur and which end times prophecies have been fulfilled already and within what time windows others will be fulfilled. The rest is up to YHWH (God).

        Mock all you like viper and son of Satan. Your days are quickly coming to an end.

      • regressive teaparty trash

        where did CAIN get his “wife”?

      • YHWAY

        Your days should end now. You need an arse kicking. I’m YHWAY

      • Watchman on the Wall

        You merely prove that the lunatics are running the insane asylum and that the world has gone mad. So what else is new? Everything is right on schedule.

        You WILL get far more than an arse kicking. Try eternal torment in the bringing lake of fire and brimstone. You do understand what eternal means, don’t you dimwit? FOREVER WITHOUT END!!!

      • YHWAY

        Take your lake and brimstone and stick them up your abused asshole. Stop copy and pasting. Your education is coming out in your writing. 2nd grade?

      • regressive teaparty trash

        im enjoying watching mangle you and how stupidly U waste energy upon relies!

      • regressive teaparty trash

        then tell my UN educated ass exactly WHERE did cain get a wife?

      • Watchman on the Wall

        From YHWH (God) as all men do, dimwit.

      • regressive teaparty trash

        according to the “history” in your dullard voodoo book( see: bible) the BIBLE says god made adam and eve,,,,,,,,,,,
        adam and eve made cain and abel…
        cain killed abel
        ====================================
        now there are 3 people
        where did cain get a wife?
        and more importantly; WHEN?
        scripture does NOT mention this–

      • Watchman on the Wall

        Scripture does not reveal everything: just the important stuff which Go chooses to reveal. But you delight in focusing on the minuscule and the irrelevant. That’s what lunacy and strong delusion looks like. It’s the lead up to the great white throne judgment and eternal torment in the burning lake of fire and brimstone which follows for you…

        But then again, you knew that already, didn’t you?

      • regressive teaparty trash

        now U are admitting the total BS of your inert book
        =========================================
        we are making headway here!!!

      • Watchman on the Wall

        How utterly desperate you are to vainly try to discredit a book you claim to have no interest in! It’s funny really!

        How ’bout those recent sitings of incoming Nibiru or Wormwood: aren’t you excited? Just how blind and desperate are you gonna reveal yourself to be? The evidence of the end times is EVERYWHERE!!!

        Which fairy tale or fable is YOURS? The Babylonian Talmud of orthodox Judaism perhaps?

        How about the Zohar Kaballah of the occult; that more to your liking?

        Or how ’bout that Qu’ran?

      • regressive teaparty trash

        again,,,,my oligophrenial religious fanatic: allow me to elucidate you :
        I am A..G..N..O..S..T..I..C..———– which means I do not ascribe to any voodoo( see: religion)
        however,,,,,,,,,,,,,,I am hoping to meet MARILYN LANGE in hades if I get my dead corpse sent there
        she is———— after all———– the FINEST looking woman EVER!! Look up her photos: U can thank me later
        =========================================
        now,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, about cains wife–

      • Watchman on the Wall

        Let me keep this really simple for your pea-sized brain to grasp: agnostic means bone ass ignorant and just don’t know. Well it’s time you learned the truth from a wise sage and prophet of God.

        Go play with your minuscule sex organ and fantasize over Cain’s wife all you like; I am done with you. Your moniker has one thing right: you are nothing but TRASH.

      • regressive teaparty trash

        awww………did u faw down an’ go boom again?
        ====================================
        poor widdle puddy cat…………….. he faw down

      • YHWAY

        No ejaculating in your stupid religion. Fook YOU

      • Watchman on the Wall

        You just reveal yourself to be demon-possessed, certifiably insane and totally vile. So what else is new?

        Your time is almost up. Two more years and you are toast. Tick… tick… tick…

        Hear those roaring flames in the background? Those would be the flames of the burning lake of fire and brimstone being readied for your imminent arrival. There will be no mercy. You are out of excuses. God is just waiting a bit longer for you to further hang yourself with the ripe He has provided to you.

      • YHWAY

        Your copy and paste again. Brimstone. Fook you

      • Watchman on the Wall

        Tick… tick… tick… going insane aren’t you Satan?

      • regressive teaparty trash

        dude,,,,,,bring your dog in from outside
        ===================================
        that TICK problem will need JEEEESUS help ( and orkin) to quell

      • YHWAY

        This guy is a complete jackass. More stupid every post he makes

      • regressive teaparty trash

        but hes fun to annoy,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
        I just asked him how noah went to Alaska and Australia to get some of those critters,,,,,,,,,,
        cant wait 2 hear back from his “glory”

      • YHWAY

        Actually MORON- he is 200 percent correct. How does your stupid GOD/Bible say the beginning of man started. Jehovah and YAsomo? You fookin stupid Jehovah

      • Watchman on the Wall

        Actually wicked fool, you wouldn’t know the truth if it kicked you in the ass.

        How does your stupid book say where you came from? A single cell amoeba from the primordial goo? You mean you actually BELIEVE that crap? That has been proven to be a deliberate fraud of the Jewish Pharisees many times over. But simple logic escapes you wicked fools…. Now you’re trapped. It’s over. You lost.

      • YHWAY

        You idiot. Sorry the abuse has taken over your brain.

      • regressive teaparty trash

        a lot smarter reasoning then some “god” decided to mak a man,,,,,,,,and then realizing his stupidity he needed TO TAKE A RIB ( butcher) from that man and make a woman??? really??
        your “god” can make all the universe and a man,,,,,,but need to ripoff a guys rib to make a woman??
        and to quote you ( GODS “prophet”)
        ” u mean U actually BELIEVE that crap”???
        =====================================
        now,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, about noah going to antartica and Australia and Alaska to get those far away critters,,,,,,,,,, Hmmmmmmm: jet blue anyone?

      • regressive teaparty trash

        home run!!!! OY HUMID is circling the bases & waves to the adoring crowd!!

      • Regressive man boobs

        You are a fookin moron. You need a God because of how stupid you are

      • regressive teaparty trash

        naaaah——- all I need is athletics….. moneeeeeeeeeee,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,and sex with buxom gracile women

      • Regressive man boobs

        Are you a Jehovah’s? Those people are completely fooked up

      • Watchman on the Wall

        I am God’s true prophet and watchman in the wall in the final days of the great tribulation and a Biblical theist. I speak for God.

        JWs are arrogant cultists of the demonic. They don’t know $hit. Nor do you.

      • Regressive man boobs

        You are a JW. You fookin loser. Fook off

      • Watchman on the Wall

        That all you got, demon?!? I ain’t impressed. Take your own advice. To the burning lake of fire and brimstone in torment for all eternity for you! You’ll see soon enough.

      • YHWAY

        Is that all you have. Stop repeating the same copy and paste bull shit from Google. You mother fookin loser. Your God is a piece of shite. I’m YHWAY.

      • Watchman on the Wall

        No, you’re merely toast. Give it some time. You’ll see soon enough. Two years will just about do it.

        Thanks for illustrating to other readers precisely where we are in God’s prophetic time line. You’re doing my work for me! This is hilarious!

      • YHWAY

        I’m sorry that you were abused as a little boy. There is still time to shrink your asshole from all the pounding you took. I am truly sorry

      • regressive teaparty trash

        I love when u channel your anger properly after these religious imbeciles

      • regressive teaparty trash

        I will agree that you INDEED “know shit”

      • Watchman on the Wall

        You will agree with much more by the time the next two years are up.

      • regressive teaparty trash

        my god satan?
        isn’t that YOUR banal creation ( see: fables/voodoo bokk)

      • Watchman on the Wall

        No, that is the god you and your fellow Satanists worship and serve who is taught about in your Jewish Babylonian Talmud and Zohar Kaballah of the occult.

        The truth is right under YOUR banal nose, but you have been sent strong delusion by YHWH and cannot see the obvious because you are damned to hell by God. Your petulant rants and mockery merely prove that you are the subject of the fulfillment of prophecy at 2 Thessalonians 2:10-12. That’s not something to go boasting about, idiot!

      • YHWAY

        Fook you. You and your stupid God. Fook off

      • Watchman on the Wall

        That all you got, demon? I’m really under-whelemed and not at all surprised.

      • YHWAY

        Quit the act little boy. Go jump in a fire and do us all a favor

      • YHWAY

        This guy is classic. What a fookin loser

      • regressive teaparty trash

        sorry,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, GOD aint showing up to you or me
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      • Watchman on the Wall

        He already HAS dimwit. You are too blind to see the obvious, because God created you that way.

      • regressive teaparty trash

        god cannot even get two fingerprints the same ( after all these years) and notice how EVERYTHING god nakes,,,,,,,,,,dies?
        lousy garderner/ farmer
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        and his Cherubs—- quite homosexual looking; eh?

      • Watchman on the Wall

        He’s the brilliant, all-powerful, eternal and very much alive God and creator of the universe and all that’s in it, who has NOTHING to do with wicked impostor “jews.” You will soon be bending your knee and declaring Him Lord whether you like it or not: from your vantage point of eternal torment in the burning lake of fire and brimstone, most likely.

        His name is Yahushua. Get used to practicing it. You’re gonna need it very soon. But He will never save you. YHWH created you to reveal His power and glory by destroying you in a nano-second. This is going to be so cool to witness!!! I almost can’t wait!

      • regressive teaparty trash

        really!!!! so this loving ; all-powerful “god” ( see: fable) makes BILLIONS of children just to send to an eternal fire?
        really????? Hmmmmmm,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
        I will choose door #2 instead

      • Rob Bailey

        Hmmm. Healthcare has always been subsidized by others that didn’t have insurance. Fact.

      • Watchman on the Wall

        Hmmm. Not true in the least. Until about WWII, most people paid as they went for healthcare and when they got sick, they often died. Of course, Americans did not consume vast amounts of processed, acid-forming foods which lead to cancer, heart disease and diabetes in epidemic numbers then, nor were they being poisoned with aluminum, barium and strontium from chemtrails, nor were they being bombarded by electro-magnetic low frequency waves from HAARP, nor were they being subjected to biological and psychological warfare assaults by their own governments almost constantly…

        Your alleged fact is a lie, straight from the father of lies, the devil, designed to deceive the naive, the gullible and the ignorant. I am none of those things. I am God’s true prophet come to expose the lies of Satan and warn of the coming calamity upon the wicked, to explain why, and urge the few who still are able to confess and repent of their many sins and submit their lives fully to Yahushua while there is still time. In two years, time will be up.

      • Rob Bailey

        It’s not every day that I get to trade posts with a “true prophet”. It’s mostly the days I’m on the psych ward dispensing Risperdal, though. Hell, a few times I’ve even met Jeebus.

      • Watchman on the Wall

        Well aren’t you just proof positive that the lunatics are running the insane asylum?!? Enjoy the strong delusion while it lasts. It will last for less than two more years. Then the $hit hits the fan and you are toast.

      • Regressive man boobs

        Tell Yahomo to give you an ejaculation. You need the queerness

      • regressive teaparty trash

        duuuuuude,,,,,,,,ur killing me with your ( wonderful!!)) assaults on him!
        im dying laughing–
        ” whats all this religious crap”??
        !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      • Watchman on the Wall

        You are one sick puppy. Get help! Now run along back to your padded room so you don’t hurt yourself…

        Medic!!! Another lunatic has escaped!!!

      • YHWAY

        Tell Yahomo that you want to suck him off. You disgusting piece of dirt

      • Watchman on the Wall

        I suggest you have that conversation with Yahushua before the great white throne as you’re being judged. I’m sure He’ll be no more amused than I am. And then to the burning lake of fire and brimstone shall you go! Yahoo! Justice is finally on its way! Aren’t you excited?

      • YHWAY

        Justice has been served. Being abused by your dad is no excuse to hate you wanna be terrorist.

      • regressive teaparty trash

        why is the throne ( Caucasian) white?
        why not a nice lavender or indigo blue?

      • Watchman on the Wall

        Simple: The 12 Hebrew tribes are white.

      • regressive teaparty trash

        actually they are arab-esque: which is not truly Caucasian white ( please note– Italian/portuguese is also considered Caucasian and they are darker skinned than; say– Nordic people)
        hey wait– U are following the jews? Hebrew jews? I thought U said jews were a problem here?
        Hmmmmm,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, now: about that JEWISH guy named JEEEEEESUS

      • regressive teaparty trash

        yep————–
        escaped and become ” gods TRUE prophet”
        ***********************************************************

      • regressive teaparty trash

        read some of my posts to him,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
        hes certifiable

      • Regressive man boobs

        Who the Fook is Yahushua?

      • Watchman on the Wall

        The son of YHWH (pronounced Yahuwah) the son of the one and only and true God. Don’t know Him? Bummer for you. That means you’re toast in eternal torment in the burning lake of fire and brimstone. You will have lots of company: >99% of the current world’s population is headed there, thus proving once again that the majority is ALWAYS wrong and always quite evil.

        God gave you plenty of rope to hang yourself and you did a stellar job of doing just that. Now it’s time to reap what you have sown. Judgment is inescapable; now or then; it’s entirely up to God which one applies to you.

      • Regressive man boobs

        Go pray to your Jew Bag, Queer God and leave us alone you fooked up loser. Oh, get a job also

      • regressive teaparty trash

        this is awesome having you AND I going after this stegosaur!!

      • YHWAY

        Ask him if he could bang TEGU!

      • regressive teaparty trash

        no way,,,,,,,,,,,,,,I think he prefers his pet gerbil

      • Watchman on the Wall

        Tell it to YHWH jerk. He has called me as His prophet and you are toast. Vile toast. But toast nevertheless. I am here to torment you wicked fools endlessly to drive you insane before the end arrives. THAT is my job!!!!

      • YHWAY

        Get a fookin job loser. Quit the Jehovah’s and SAVE yourself. I would enjoy smacking you. YHWAY

      • Watchman on the Wall

        How much do your Jewish masters pay you for this tripe? Either way, they’re not getting their money’s worth with you. You’re making my case for me. Kind of ass backwards don’t you think?

      • regressive teaparty trash

        “he has called me”
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        as that was long distance,,,,,,,,,,, did he reverse the charge?

      • Watchman on the Wall

        Simply desperate… you trolls and your Jewish masters are desperate to ridicule the righteous and try to suppress and silence the truth. You’re failing miserably.

      • regressive teaparty trash

        GOD called you————
        wanna enlighten us as to how the supreme deity contacted you? was it writing in the sky? maybe a song? did GODS infinite wisdom simply enter your head –in English-? did he direct U 2 some burning bush ( see: E.P.A. ) or maybe have u sacrifice your only son as payment for your incredible ability to decipher “gods” words 2 U?
        =======================================
        now,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,about where CAIN got his wife: why does your “mad magazine” bible not mention any of this,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
        …………………yet U try2 tell us that YOU KNOW??

      • YHWAY

        Do us a favor and shut the fook up, you moron. You are quoting scripture from the wrong chapter and book, jerk off.

        YHWAY

      • Watchman on the Wall

        What? You think the Babylonian Talmud or Zohar Kaballah is the book of God? Sorry dimwit: you’re a slave to Satan and the Antichrist Jew. We all can see it quite clearly. But thanks for illustrating the truth for other readers to see. You and your kind have gotten just a little too cocky and ahead of yourselves.

        Didn’t read the fine print did you? it said that YHWH (God) remains in control over all things and that you are just one of His stupid dupes that He is using for a time and will then throw you way in the fires of hell.

      • YHWAY

        I’m GOD. BIAtch. making you crazy, you little abused BIAtch

      • regressive teaparty trash

        the inllectual magnificence of all who live upon this planet is WRONG
        ======================================
        and,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
        ………………………………YOU

        ……………are
        …………………………………………………RIGHT?
        ========================================
        must be that blood to wine trick

      • Watchman on the Wall

        The Babylonian Talmud and Zohar Kaballah are the most foul and disgusting teachings known to man.

        God is right and YOU and those who cling to such perverted teachings are DEAD… and wrong too.

      • regressive teaparty trash

        hey littledick scumbag—-
        im talking about TODAYS intellectuals; not yestreens stupid drunken religious( superstitious) creeps who wrote all that voodoo mumbo-jumbo.
        again,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,all of TODAYS intellects are WRONG–
        …….and YOU are right?
        ====================================
        ya need help there fella,,,,,,,,,,and meds are not the answer
        =======================================
        ya need help—

      • regressive teaparty trash

        his pet gerbil

      • regressive teaparty trash

        ” I am gods TRUE prophet”
        ========================================
        geeee,,,anyone else ever heard this madness before through history?

      • regressive teaparty trash

        I prefer rye toast with no caraway seeds,,,,,,,,
        can ya’ hook a secular up; brethren??

    • Rob Bailey

      Based on the lies you spew here, GAWD will likely take you first, likely by sodomy. Since 98% of us won’t have insurance, you likely won’t, and that nasty an*l infection will rapidly spread to your brain. Oh, wait… it’s started.

      • Watchman on the Wall

        Quite the lying troll and “useless idiot” of the satanic Jewish global elites aren’t you? Your vile venom proves you to be the son of Satan you so obviously are. Fact.

      • Regressive man boobs

        What’s with all the religious crap?

      • Watchman on the Wall

        No religious crap here: I am the true prophet of God in the final days go the great tribulation which ends in precisely 682 days. You thought you could sin like hell and get away with it, didn’t you? Just one more young and wicked fool, aren’t you?

        All forms of ORGANIZED religion are, and always have been, demonic. They’re all going down!!! Bring on the wrath and fury of Almighty God!!! Let death and destruction be everywhere!!! Let justice reign forever!!!

        If you don’t believe in YHWH, Yahushua and the Bible with all your heart and soul, you believe in fables and fairy tales and will be destroyed. In two more years the proverbial $hit will hit the fan and you will be out of options and excuses.

      • Regressive man boobs

        You are a fookin moron. YHWH is a fictious God and you know it. You and all yours should get together in 681 in preparation, get a hold of each other, drink manaschevitz and slit each other’s wrists. That way on 682 when the world continues as usual, you and all your whacked out, fooked up people are gone. Deal?

      • Watchman on the Wall

        You are doomed! I pray to YHWH and Yahushua that they would strike you dead in less than 365 days in excruciating pain, screaming for mercy. If I am truly God’s prophet, you will surely die by then.

        In 727 days or less God’s elect will be caught up to be with Yahushua in the clouds. Between 682 and 727 days from now, the world will discover that it was dead wrong. God’s elect have hope of eternity. The rest of you don’t. You’ll be dead in a year, so it won’t matter and you won’t have to slit your wrist on Day 682.

        in your own sick and twisted way of thinking, perhaps that’s a blessing. The world will be better off without you.

        God’s prophet has spoken truth once again.

      • Regressive man boobs

        You whacked fookin moron. Do us a favor and take a walk out in traffic. Maybe Yahomo will save you

      • regressive teaparty trash

        im asking him where CAIN got a wife————–after all; that’s what HIS idiotic voodoo book( bible) says!!
        =======================================
        you and I have a common foe!!

      • YHWAY

        Ask him where Abel is. This guy is a Fookin retard

      • regressive teaparty trash

        im too busy annoying him with:
        ” where did CAIN get a wife”
        ==============================================
        he cries then,,,,,,,,,,

      • Watchman on the Wall

        Goin’ insane, aren’t you demon-possessed fool? That is your eternal destiny! I’m here to push you over the edge. Looks like I’ve already succeeded. On to the next one…

      • YHWAY

        YHWAY here. It’s over Jehovah. I will ruin you, you FOOKIN queer boy

      • Watchman on the Wall

        You can’t touch me Satan! You know it and I know it. Now I’m coming after you to expose your fraud for the entire world to see!

        Remember Satan: the truth is the most powerful weapon in the world. I have it and you don’t. In the holy and powerful name of Yahushua may you and your endless lies be silenced for all eternity!

      • YHWAY

        You queer fooker you

      • Ravens fan

        Watchman is regressive tea party trash. Just another one of his Disqus identities.

        He’s not fooling anyone.

      • regressive teaparty trash

        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ BRAND NEW TROLL^^^ PROFILE^^^^^^^………………………………………………………………………wrong answer————look how I obliterate him on these blogs; then tell me it is me
        ======================================
        too bad U are a troll,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, smallish regressive crybabyBRAND NEW troll
        ********************************************************
        soon to be banished by moderators

      • Ravens fan

        Dude, you’re a 56-year-old loser with a vivid fantasy life that would rival Walter Mitty.

      • regressive teaparty trash

        what exactly makes me a loser>? my lifestyle? my income? my net worth? the physical condition I keep myself in? the females I adorn my body with? where I live? the music I listen to? my pet?
        =====================================
        or perhaps the easily fluent way I abuse regressive crybaby trolls such as you? such as having inept cretins such as you ” think” I am some religious fanatic on this blog thread??
        ********************************************************
        lemme know-

      • YHWAY

        You are doomed you little Jehovah Witness. I am YHWAY. The King of Kings. I will put you in a pretzel hold and let Gary Menten have his way with you you queer.

      • Watchman on the Wall

        It is you, Satan, who are doomed. You knew how this story would end: very badly for you. YHWH has sent me to torment the crap out of you for two more years with the TRUTH. YHWH is going to use the truth to drive you insane Satan!!!!

      • regressive teaparty trash

        dude,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,im actually on YOUR side with this!
        ===========================================
        I like how our reeeeee-ligious friend says HE is THE TRUE PROPHET from “god”
        ==========================================
        thats f*cking special!!!

      • YHWAY

        He is more than special. This guy blows away being a regressive libtard. You are like Chocolate a cake and he the results of the cake after I take a shit in the AM

      • regressive teaparty trash

        I annoy him with facts——-such as:
        when did NOAH find the time to travel to (a) antartica (b) south America (c) Australia(d) north America,,,,,,,,,,to get all those critters for his “boat”………..and– HOW THE HELL DID NOAH get all the critters BACK to those faraway places>>?????
        I theeeenk he loves me more than he loves U!

      • YHWAY

        I am YHWAY. Spell it write or I will take care of you in Judgement Day you fooker you.

      • Watchman on the Wall

        YHWH (Yahuwah) and Yahushua will destroy you Satan. Less than two more years to go until the real fireworks begin. Aren’t you excited? You’ve been waiting for and dreading this day for the last 6,000 years, haven’t you? Justice will be done at last!

      • regressive teaparty trash

        humans have been on the planet roughly 450,000 years
        ===============================================
        dinosaurs over a million years ago
        =================================================
        wanna play the Christian documentary ” the flinstones” again??

      • regressive teaparty trash

        mess with him,,,,,,,,,,ive been tearing him up for 4 days so far–

      • YHWAY

        I’m killing the weasel. Read it

      • regressive teaparty trash

        im with ya,,,,,,,,,,,,
        I hate religion; and hate even more losers who tell me that dec 2015 is “judgement day”
        ( ” ahhhhnold”)

  • Josh

    Wow. It’s amazing what someone can do when they threaten people with fines and violence if they don’t buy insurance. 7 million people threatened into compliance. THAT’S AMAZING! Huge accomplishment.

    • Rob Bailey

      The old way of just having people show up at the ER for free care and jacking up everyone else’s cost worked out so well… That and bankruptcy and dying.

      • Josh

        Who said that was a good thing either?

  • regressive tea party trash

    When I think about me, I touch myself.

    • regressive teaparty trash

      must be tough as u are such a loser— using my username,,,
      I like your NEWEST troll profile,……. IHAVECRABS!!
      =================================================
      seems as if U have a great handle upon reality
      ============================================
      and I LOVE love LOVE being so under your skin!!

      • regressive tea party

        Who says it’s weird to be in love with my pet tegu?

      • regressive teaparty trash

        YOU–regressive tea party trash ( space in words)
        ME– regressive teaparty trash
        YOU- Regressive teaparty trash (capital “R”)
        ====================================
        easy to spot–
        even my pet TEGU is peeing on your stoooopidity

      • Regressive man boobs

        Does TEGU touch himself?

      • regressive teaparty trash

        he tegus himself

  • Ihavecrabs

    This guy Jon Gruber looks like he takes it in the ass?

    • regressive teaparty trash

      you know whats funny????????????
      whats funny?
      your dumb ass doesn’t realize U just insulted a republican!!
      ===============================================
      yeah bay–beeeee!!

      • regressive tea party

        My friends all tell me I look like Jonathan Gruber.

      • regressive teaparty trash

        never married,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
        but yes; im a bull

      • regressive tea party

        I watch a bull make my “girlfriend” moan and scream for more. He gives her what I cant. I’m happy for her.

      • YHWAY

        You like dudes or she males?

      • regressive teaparty trash

        look up MARILYN LANGE–finest looking woman EVER
        ========================================
        that’s my answer

  • Regressive Teaparty trash

    When I woke up this morning, I had mayonnaise all over my bed, WTF?

    • regressive teaparty trash

      Capitalized R in “Regressive”
      me? im the ONLY real one who abuuuses regressive white trash republicans,,,,,,,
      NOTE– my ” Regressive” also has another profile,,,,,,,,,
      the other has a space between tea and party
      ===============================================
      gotta love these low IQ trolls whom I am obliterating!!!

      • regressive tea party

        ^^^^^^My wife left me for her bull cuck. She said I was her sissy.^^^^^

        ^^^^^She still wants me to watch her and her boyfriend ^^^^^^^

      • regressive teaparty trash

        ^^^^^^ new troll profile^^^
        must LOVE me!! he has to use my name!
        ====================================
        PRAISE JEEEEESUS!

      • Regressive man boobs

        You can Praise whomever you want. We all know you are married to a tranny

      • regressive teaparty trash

        nope–
        live with my gal
        ======================================
        you wouldn’t like her—–
        shes tall and athletic and buxom

      • regressive tea party

        And a big ass canker sore on her lower lip she got as a present from me.

  • YHWAY

    God Bless the Grand Jury. They got it right. Who gives Obozo the right to speak on race relations. Fook that