Americans Should be Terrified of the Bush Family Dynasty’s Future Aspirations

jeb-1We’ve already had 12 years of a Bush in the White House. The first was George H.W. Bush, who served one term as president (and tried but failed to win a second term). Then, of course, we had George W. Bush who served from 2001-2009. And I think all of us with any kind of decent memory know what kind of horrific damage his presidency did to this country.

Let’s also not forget that George H.W. Bush was vice president during Reagan’s administration. So if you want to count that, since 1981, we’ve had someone from the Bush family in (or directly associated with) the White House for 20 of the last 33 years.

And you would think that after George W. Bush’s horrific tenure as president, that no other Bush would stand a change in hell at becoming president again. But you’d be wrong.

If all indications I’m seeing are correct, Jeb Bush seems poised for a run at president in 2016. In fact, it’s been my belief all along that Jeb is the son the Bush family really wanted to run for president. It just so happens George managed to get there first.

But Jeb isn’t the only problem. His son, George P. Bush, is another huge issue. Because the Republican party is clearly priming him to run for president one day as well. He’s currently the “up and coming” golden boy in Texas for the GOP. And at 38-years-old, he would be the perfect age of 48 to run in 2024 if his father managed to become president and serve two terms.

Just think about that for a second. If that were to happen, we’d potentially be facing sixteen straight years of the Bush family being in control of the White House. But not only that, say Jeb and George P. Bush served two terms each (2017-2033), that would mean that between 1989-2033 a Bush would have controlled the White House for 28 of 44 years. And that’s not including the 8 years George H.W. Bush was vice president. So, when you factor in those 8 years, that puts a Bush as either president or vice president for 36 of 44 years. And if that doesn’t strike at least a little bit of fear into every single American, I’m not sure what will.

And for anyone taking this as simply hypothetical nonsense, do so at your own peril. It’s not at all out of the realm of possibility that Jeb Bush could be elected president in 2016. In fact, I think if he runs, he’ll win the GOP nomination. And trust me when I say they are grooming his son, George P. Bush, to run for president one day.

Will it be immediately after his father’s potential presidency? I obviously can’t say for certain. But I can promise you it is coming.

And I’m not sure about all of you, but the thought of even one more Bush occupying the White House absolutely terrifies me. Let alone a “Bush empire” being placed upon the American people where we’re subjected to a potential sixteen straight years of Bush presidencies.

Liberals, let’s make damn sure we don’t let that happen.

Allen Clifton

Allen Clifton is a native Texan who now lives in the Austin area. He has a degree in Political Science from Sam Houston State University. Allen is a co-founder of Forward Progressives and creator of the popular Right Off A Cliff column and Facebook page. Be sure to follow Allen on Twitter and Facebook, and subscribe to his channel on YouTube as well.


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  • FuzzyBunnyFeet

    Your math is off. No Bush was on the executive branch during the Clinton and Obama administration’s.
    So, for example, “a Bush would have controlled the White House for [20] of 44 years. And … when you factor in [GWB’s] 8 years [as vice-president], that puts a Bush as either president or vice president for [28] of 44 years.”

    • Avatar

      It’s because H.W. Bush was the one who controlled Gerald Ford and Ronald Reagan administrations.

      • Steve Brains

        He was also the CIA head under Nixon and STARTED all the covert nation building crap.

  • FuzzyBunnyFeet

    And, my math is off. 28 of 44 years is correct. But, if you add in GWB’s years as vice president, then you have to go back another 4 years to get 32 of 48 years.

  • Rob Banks

    GOP controlled congress released this report from their Intelligence Committee on Sept 8 2006:

    “The committee’s investigation into prewar intelligence on Iraq has

    revealed that the Bush administration’s case for war in Iraq was

    fundamentally misleading.

    Prior to the war, administration officials repeatedly characterized

    Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction programs in more conclusive and

    threatening terms than were substantiated by the underlying

    intelligence assessments. Analytical assessments of the intelligence

    community that were not in line with the more strident administration

    view on alleged Iraqi links to al-Qaida and the 9/11 plot were ignored

    and were denigrated by senior policymakers. Most disturbingly, the

    administration, in its zeal to promote public opinion in the United

    States before toppling Saddam Hussein, pursued a deceptive strategy

    prior to the war of using intelligence reporting that the intelligence

    community warned was uncorroborated, unreliable, and, in critical

    instances, fabricated.”

    • strayaway

      I assume that Jeb Bush will pursue the militaristic interventionist stances of recent presidents. In the other hand, I know that Hillary enthusiastically voted to give W. the power to decide whether to war against Iraq and has supported every war since. A Bush/Clinton dynasty matchup would make the US look ridiculous and dangerous elsewhere.

      • Steve Brains

        “You are a Toxic Waste of time.”

      • Steve Brains

        That’s why I support Representation by lottery. Like Jury Duty. And they can ONLY get out of the job if we are NOT at war and have a surplus economy.

      • Steve Brains

        He will do what Grannie Barbie tells him to do.

    • Steve Brains

      The arsonists holding this blog hostage are immune to thr truth. Especially if their own people uncovered it.

      Bomb throwing obstructionists like Strayfart and his mom, Chuck, youcantgetridofme … I am asking you to NOT engage them. ignoring the bully is the best defense, but humiliating them on EVERY SINGLE POST THEY MAKE is how you kill a vermin infestation.

      I am cut and pasting “You are a Toxic Waste of time.” today on all their nonsense.

      I am asking you and everyone else tired of this blog being hijacked and taken hostage to do the same until the are exterminated,

      Thank you.

      • strayaway

        “I am asking you and everyone else tired of this blog being hijacked and taken hostage to do the same until the are exterminated.”

        Wow, censorship and “extermination” both in one sentence and in the name of progressivism.

      • Steve Brains

        Just for YOU.

        Start using the WHOLE truth and sourcing your claims and you will be a real live boy again.

      • strayaway

        Did Hillary not support Bush when he asked for Congress to give him the authority, actually Congress’ authority, to wage war on Iraq? That’s common knowledge. Does Stevey the exterminator need help with a Google search? I stated two opinions and a fact. That was the fact. If necessary, I could do a search for you since you are busy threatening people and giving orders. I don’t think you would make much of a libertarian. That too is opinion.

      • Sandy Greer

        Remember a previous convo we had. Stephen Barlow told Charles Vincent he’d flag every post until he is banned. Now Steve Brains (they are one and the same) wants you ‘exterminated’.

        There’ve been several banned here. Don’t know it was all Barlow-Brains doing – I suspect somebody else too. Personal vendettas, borne of frustration.

        Hold your head high. Don’t lower yourself to the personal attacks your Opponents reach for. Those who are inclined to look further than their own knowledge see that – and respect it.

        Speak the Truth you know. There will always be somebody ready to hear.

        Bear in mind, too – Election is next week. There’s a vested interest in shutting out opposing views. But we still vote. 😉

      • Steve Brains

        Until it cites his sources and backs his claims.

      • strayaway

        Hmmm, I hadn’t considered that Barlow = Brains. Seems like they went to the same finishing school anyway.

        I’ll vote too. We are in different states so we won’t cancel each other out but I have one election booth dilemma. Given the choice between voting for a known crook and someone who promises to open Pandora’s Box, I usually find a third party candidate – at least in presidential elections. In this case though, the Pandora’s Box candidate will also strengthen the hand of someone else, who in my opinion, is subverting the rule of law. My equation then becomes voting for the lesser of evils. What will it be then, the crook who leaves me pretty much alone except for misspending my tax dollars, letting the demons out to attack me and overturn the rule of law, or maintaining a measure of integrity voting third party but allowing maybe the worst of those options to happen?

      • Sandy Greer

        Known crook or Pandora’s Box? I vote Pandora’s Box. But I’m a risk-taker. Always have been – always will be.

        Who’s to say what’s in Pandora’s Box? Could be good. We don’t know. But I’m an Optimist.

        The known crook is a known quality. Pessimism, all the way.

        A friend thinks those who won’t consider third party do so from fear of the unknown – they vote Status Quo. He’s got a point. That’s not you, and that’s not me. So…

        And – It’s true. Two sides, one coin. I wouldn’t say it, if it weren’t. Neither will dispute me. Both value Truth, in their own fashion – same as you.

      • Steve Brains


        OBAMA was the ONLY ONE who saw through the menagerie.

        Predicted the economic harm, voted AGAINST WAR…
        And inherited a failure in spades of BOTH the economy AND a second Vietnam!!

        THEN came the GOPstipation of obstructionism. Even shoving RED publican policy, Bills that are FROM the GOP agenda!!!! made a dent in the OBAMAHATE GOP politics.

      • strayaway

        So your defense of Hillary is that she is naive or stupid? Other Democrats saw through Bush’ lies. 21 Democratic Senators voted against Bush’s Iraq War Resolution but Hillary supported Bush.

        Not sure what Obama saw through. He wasn’t in Congress when Hillary voted in support of Bush. Obama never voted to defund the Iraq war under Bush, kept it going until one month before we had to get out, lost more troops in Afghanistan than Bush did, attacked Libya with an unconstitutional executive order in violation of the War Powers Act, tried to bomb Syria, armed moderate rebels who left their weapons for IS to use, and recently, with the support of Congress, is arming anti-Assad rebels. Obama has bombed seven countries so far – probably a record for Peace Prize winners.

        6.8 years into his own administration and $7.8T of debt later he is still blaming Bush although the 1% are doing better than ever.

      • Steve Brains

        YOUR defense of BUSH is that he was WILLFULLY IGNORANT!!! And THUS premeditated and inquiry and failed to be innocent of his crimes.

      • strayaway

        Please reread what I wrote if able. Nowhere did I defend Bush. I think he should be in prison.

      • Steve Brains

        RoboticFogma… is worthless. …

        TY for that. AFTER 90 days of wasted assholism on your part.

        YOu NEVER ONCE said that!!!!!!

      • Steve Brains

        The UN fuck your self!!

      • Steve Brains


      • Steve Brains

        Thank you! how’s your Mom?

      • Steve Brains

        I don’t read your garbage in the FIRST PLACE strayhole. It is more often hallucinatory and thus unreliable.

      • Steve Brains

        FIVE . 8 and unemployment is 6%.

        But DEEPer than that…

        THE ONLY UNSTABILITY IN AMERICA TODAY IS Rovian Republicanism, Super PAC deceit, propagandadvetertising and Constitutional Compromise.

      • Steve Brains

        Ok… what are you youfail fail ing to prrrrrr Rove?

      • Steve Brains

        NOPE! The INDICTMENT of BUSH is…

      • Steve Brains

        NO, Hillary is NOT the issue.

        BUSH is the convict.

      • Steve Brains

        Really? I thought they had a bunch of Not votes and ONE actual NO!!!!

        And NO REDS didn’t back Bush 100%.

      • Steve Brains

        Quack duck QUACK!

      • GenerallyConfused

        You really aren’t making your position better with spam on the boards. I understand your frustration but if an administrator looked at his responses versus yours, you would be banned.

      • Steve Brains

        Under the TRUST that the President WOULD NOT motherfucking manufacture FALSE evidence that MURDERED
        American citizens

      • Steve Brains

        1/4 true?

      • Steve Brains


      • GenerallyConfused

        Using Google to ensure one has facts correct before one spouts out an incorrect statement is actually using intelligence. Using what one remembers without knowing exactly where the information came from is not a responsible form of debate.

      • strayaway

        There were no facts in your post but might I suggest that you specify which facts your are referring to so I can grasp what you are even trying to talk about.

      • GenerallyConfused

        You posted something earlier about someone going to Google for their facts like it was a bad thing.. I, then, posted that.

      • strayaway

        I think its a good idea to Google things. I was probably telling SB to look up things for himself instead of expecting me to work for him. I stopped responding to him. I don’t see him around anymore so maybe he was banned if he didn’t first have an aneurism burst or get kicked out of his mother’s basement.

      • GenerallyConfused

        Eh.. I must have read it wrong then. He probably got banned, just like I said he would. Spamming and being an arse is not the way one should deal with ones frustration.

  • Avatar

    Terrified? The idea of yet another Bush in the White House fucking scares the hell out of me. Bush is epitome of modern day fascism, they intend to show the whole world that America have bigger dick than whole world combined which will translates into world hates us even more! If Jeb runs, it’s guaranteed that Republicans and Supreme Court would intend to cheat the election and guarantee the Republican controls entire country in every parameters of political arena. Jeb would make other leaders real mad and doesn’t give any fuck about it. Jeb would sold America’s last soul and last frontier, the national parks to highest bidders for drilling or development. It’s no secret that Koch bros intend to take Yosemite and building their own towns exclusive for millionaires and billionaires and probably trillionaires.

    Bottom line, Jeb is one douche who wants wants wants the White House so badly that he will act like he is sincere and all about guns, bible, and U.S. flag then he’ll get elected by few idiots and cheat his way into the White House.

    • Steve Brains

      It’s as horrific a Stalin murdering Lenin, then mentoring Kruschev, who mentored Breshnev who mentored Gorbychev. A KC-135 smearing jet fuel over Crawford on Christmas Eve would be the perfect end to that rat’s nest.

  • Stephen Barlow

    Consider the insidious productivity of unlimited anonymous money in the Senate races in CO, KS, IA,AR, NC,KY, and GA. Mark Udall has been painted as an OBAMATERRORIST GUN STEALER by Karl Rove, the NRA and B-pac, whoever that is. But the truth Udall isn’t smart enough to TELL is this:

    Gardener is a corporate lackey, voting AGAINST the majority will of Colorado on Equal Pay, Women’s health, Universal backround checks, tax cuts for the rich and Wall Street Supervision.
    Gardener has voted NO!!! against ALL THE THINGS COLORADANS WANT!!!! But the dumbass Udall is gonna LOSE A SENATE SEAT because his balls have shriveled.

    In KS, a single man goes to a stripclub 16 years ago and RABID RIGHT WING MEDIA on Sunday Morning (CBS) let’s Grover Norquist tell America, “This is not the kind of guy you want your sister to vote for” And the PAC ATTACKS back this nonesense up.

    The unbridled money stream BUYING SEATS in Cngress has GOT TO BE BROKEN like a Bronc, saddled and hitched to a plough. the answer to Political contribution to ANYONE WHO IS NOT A CANDIDATE… SHOLD BE TAXED!!!

    The LAW that prohibits Churches from ANY POLITICAL ACTION to qualify got TAX EXEMPT STATUS needs full court press investigation by the IRS and the DOJ. Issa be DAMNED!!!!

    The answer is INVESTIGATE THEM ALL!!!!! That way ZERO bias can be claimed by the REDS.

  • GimmeSomeTruth

    Prescott Sheldon Bush should also be added to the list. After all he’s responsible for the creation of the Bush dynasty. How quickly we forget.

  • Haven Lee Angelus

    I would much rather see Elizabeth Warren run on the Democratic Ticket than Hillary. Although if Bernie Sanders ran, and won I think we could finally start moving in the right direction.

  • Matthew Reece

    If the major parties give us a Bush vs. Clinton 2016 race, expect a strong showing from Gary Johnson or whoever else runs on the Libertarian ballot line. After that, expect Adam Kokesh to do very well in 2020.

    • strayaway

      It would be my 6th vote for a third party candidate in 8 presidential elections. I think its more likely that people will stay home.

      • Sandy Greer

        People staying home lend more ‘weight’ to those votes cast.

        Third parties gain momentum with every vote. They will not be held down.

        The duopoly will be broken, one day. One way, or the other.


      • strayaway

        I’ll show up and vote third party rather than hold my nose or stay home partly for the reason you cite. I wouldn’t want Jeb to use my vote to claim he had a mandate and consider Hillary out of the question. If Republicans keep giving us offerings like Dole, McCain, Romney,and Bushes, my guess is that mainstream Republicans will go the way of the Whigs.

      • Steve Brains

        Pleeeeeeeze tell Me HOW ignorant intransigence MAKE A DIFFERENCE?

      • Steve Brains

        TY. AND… useless RESPECT.

        A) PLEASE describe the current economy if McCain had won.

        B) If McCain had DIED and PALIN were Prez?

        C) If the Racists had not committed mass Sedition?

      • Steve Brains

        Isn’t that fucking SAD!!!??????????
        NOBODY wins!

      • Steve Brains

        without a 4th to unbalance the 2nd….
        HOW do you expect ONE SINGLE third party can upsurp the TWO? Particularly when that FIFTEEN PERCENT RULE ” un ” is media dictatum?

      • Steve Brains

        ABSOLUTE ignorance!!! I GET it.

        Like making your sex partner use a condom and then inverting it so you have the delight of “ICING ON THE CAKE”

        you get to hold your erudite philosophomoric NONSENSE …


        KNOW WONDER you NEVER have a credible source and FIGHT like a cornered goose to hide in your closet.

      • GenerallyConfused

        I voted for a third party in the last presidential election. I’m wondering when that might work. Republicans/Democrat parties are not working.. but what can we the people really do to fix more than 50 years of the way it is?

      • strayaway

        I voted for third party candidates in 5 of 7 of the last elections. Make that 6 of 8 if our pre-selected choice is Hillary vs. Jeb. The only issues would be social issues like abortion and gay marriage and whose cronies were going to get rich.

        Your question is difficult. Beyond voting third party, any contributions should go to candidates one agrees with. In my case that might be Justin Amash. For many here, that might be Senators Warren and Jeffers. Meanwhile, stop giving any money to party wide organizations that funnel the money to people like Hillary and Jeb.

        I regularly scold or thank my representatives for their votes. If enough people did so maybe they could be more independent of their corporate sponsors.

        Do things locally as much as possible. Vermont, for instance, tried to institute an affordable single payer health plan. Buy American when possible. Buy organic food from local vendors. Do business at a worker or customer owned coop when possible. Get big government out of running local public schools. Keep the money, ownership, and control of everything as close as possible.

  • Sandy Greer

    While I am not inclined to vote (any) Family Dynasty:

    I think we’d be better off worrying about next Tuesday.

    • Steve Brains

      Amen! A sensibly shoed girl…

      IF.. I gently gripped BOTH your elbows and arched your chest inappropriately… AND whispered in your ear, in the huskiest Sean 007 Connery voice:

      “we already fixed the election, just like 2004. We just need YOU to slam down the lat ballot.”

    • Steve Brains

      TY that you NEVER lived in Boston. No matter how interesting a town the Beanville is.

      (Why do I STILL wanna “LADYandTheTRAMP” a Fenwayweiner with you?)

  • Steve Brains

    Let us REMEMBER the REAGONAOMIC Legacy fostered, advanced and magnified by the BUSH Family.

    Peter Dreier, June 2004.

    “As some Americans mourn the death of Ronald Reagan, let us recall that the two-term president was no friend to America’s cities or its poor. Reagan came to office in 1981 with a mandate to reduce federal spending. In reality, he increased it through the escalating military budget, all the while slashing funds for domestic programs that assisted working class Americans, particularly the poor.

    Reagan’s fans give him credit for restoring the nation’s prosperity. But whatever economic growth occurred during the Reagan years only benefited those already well off. The income gap between the rich and everyone else in America widened. Wages for the average worker declined and the nation’s homeownership rate fell. During Reagan’s two terms in the White House, which were boon times for the rich, the poverty rate in cities grew.

    His indifference to urban problems was legendary. Reagan owed little to urban voters, big-city mayors, black or Hispanic leaders, or labor unions – the major advocates for metropolitan concerns. Early in his presidency, at a White House reception, Reagan greeted the only black member of his Cabinet, Housing and Urban Development (HUD) Secretary Samuel Pierce, saying: “How are you, Mr. Mayor? I’m glad to meet you. How are things in your city?”

    Reagan not only failed to recognize his own HUD Secretary, he failed to deal with the growing corruption scandal at the agency that resulted in the indictment and conviction of top Reagan administration officials for illegally targeting housing subsidies to politically connected developers. Fortunately for Reagan, the “HUD Scandal” wasn’t uncovered until he’d left office.

    Reagan also presided over the dramatic deregulation of the nation’s savings and loan industry allowing S&Ls to end their reliance on home mortgages and engage in an orgy of commercial real estate speculation. The result was widespread corruption, mismanagement and the collapse of hundreds of thrift institutions that ultimately led to a taxpayer bailout that cost hundreds of billions of dollars.

    The 1980s saw pervasive racial discrimination by banks, real estate agents and landlords, unmonitored by the Reagan administration. Community groups uncovered blatant redlining by banks using federal Home Mortgage Disclosure Act information. But Reagan’s HUD and justice departments failed to prosecute or sanction banks that violated the Community Reinvestment Act, which prohibits racial discrimination in lending. During that time, of the 40,000 applications from banks requesting permission to expand their operations, Reagan’s bank regulators denied only eight of them on grounds of violating CRA regulations.

    By the end of Reagan’s term in office federal assistance to local governments was cut 60 percent. Reagan eliminated general revenue sharing to cities, slashed funding for public service jobs and job training, almost dismantled federally funded legal services for the poor, cut the anti-poverty Community Development Block Grant program and reduced funds for public transit. The only “urban” program that survived the cuts was federal aid for highways – which primarily benefited suburbs, not cities.

    These cutbacks had a disastrous effect on cities with high levels of poverty and limited property tax bases, many of which depended on federal aid. In 1980 federal dollars accounted for 22 percent of big city budgets. By the end of Reagan’s second term, federal aid was only 6 percent.

    The consequences were devastating to urban schools and libraries, municipal hospitals and clinics, and sanitation, police and fire departments – many of which had to shut their doors.

    Reagan is lauded as “the great communicator,” but he sometimes used his rhetorical skills to stigmatize the poor. During his stump speeches while dutifully promising to roll back welfare, Reagan often told the story of a so-called “welfare queen” in Chicago who drove a Cadillac and had ripped off $150,000 from the government using 80 aliases, 30 addresses, a dozen social security cards and four fictional dead husbands. Journalists searched for this “welfare cheat” in the hopes of interviewing her and discovered that she didn’t exist.

    The imagery of “welfare cheats” that persists to this day helped lay the groundwork for the 1996 welfare reform law, pushed by Republicans and signed by President Clinton.

    The most dramatic cut in domestic spending during the Reagan years was for low-income housing subsidies. Reagan appointed a housing task force dominated by politically connected developers, landlords and bankers. In 1982 the task force released a report that called for “free and deregulated” markets as an alternative to government assistance – advice Reagan followed. In his first year in office Reagan halved the budget for public housing and Section 8 to about $17.5 billion. And for the next few years he sought to eliminate federal housing assistance to the poor altogether.

    In the 1980s the proportion of the eligible poor who received federal housing subsidies declined. In 1970 there were 300,000 more low-cost rental units (6.5 million) than low-income renter households (6.2 million). By 1985 the number of low-cost units had fallen to 5.6 million, and the number of low-income renter households had grown to 8.9 million, a disparity of 3.3 million units.

    Another of Reagan’s enduring legacies is the steep increase in the number of homeless people, which by the late 1980s had swollen to 600,000 on any given night – and 1.2 million over the course of a year. Many were Vietnam veterans, children and laid-off workers.

    In early 1984 on Good Morning America, Reagan defended himself against charges of callousness toward the poor in a classic blaming-the-victim statement saying that “people who are sleeping on the grates…the homeless…are homeless, you might say, by choice.”

    Tenant groups, community development corporations and community organizations fought to limit the damage done by Reagan’s cutbacks. Some important victories were won when Clinton entered office – the expansion of the Earned Income Tax Credit and stronger enforcement of the CRA. Funding for low-income housing, legal services, job training and other programs has never been restored to pre-Reagan levels, and the widening disparities between the rich and the rest persist.

    President George W. Bush, who often claims Reagan’s mantle, recently proposed cutting one-third of the Section 8 housing vouchers – a lifeline against homelessness for two million poor families.

    We’ve already named a major airport, schools and streets after Ronald Reagan, and since his death some people have suggested other ways to celebrate his memory. Perhaps a more fitting tribute to his legacy would be for each American city to name a park bench – where at least one homeless person sleeps every night – in honor of our 40th president.”

  • Eg Kbbs

    And the nation did so GOOD under the 12 years of Bush. The economy prospered. We didn’t get into armed conflicts in other nations. etc. /snark

    Especially look at the lifetime record of Dubya who led a string of failed businesses and always seemed to have some mystery person bail him out of trouble and leave a mess for someone else to clean up.

  • Doug Hickey

    when will they start wearing king and queen clothes

  • Sally

    Obama has been the most bloodiest president ever. Egypt, Syria, bahrain, etc., etc. Why Iranian have to be supportive of him. Are we all scattered around the world mainly because what Jimmy Carter did to us?

    • Steve Brains

      THAT is fucking NONSENSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Reynardine

    I have often wondered if the Bush family’s dynastic ambitions and the shocking mortality rate among the Kennedys didn’t have some kind of synchronicity.

  • nitpick

    the math doesn’t work, no matter what numbers you use 16 of the years aren’t bushes, 8 for clinton and 8 for obama. so 36 of 52. you can’t add 8 years of a bush vice presidency and not increase the 44 years to add those 8 years.

    its scary shit, dont get me wrong, but distorted math doesn’t help the narrative

  • cameramandavid

    Can they keep Cheney alive long enough to manipulate the Presidency for that many years…??

  • anthony

    Well somebody needs to protect the American people and borders other than the gutless administration we have now!.enough said!

  • Mike Rebel Carman