An Alabama Redneck Reports On How Gay Marriage Has Impacted Him (Video)

Supreme Court gay-marriageI usually don’t care much about viral videos, but this one was worth watching. A redneck reporting on how same-sex marriage legalization in Alabama has affected his county? Most people would hear the words “Alabama” and “redneck” and instantly assume this was going to be a hateful rant about how gay people are destroying the sanctity of his marriage, and society in general. Perhaps you might expect some Confederate flags, a lifted pickup truck parked next to a trailer with some Klan robes hanging on the clothesline? After all, I’ll bet when this article is published, at least a few people who leave Facebook comments without reading the story will say things like “let them secede already” and “what else would you expect from the South?”


The video from Jeremy Todd Addaway starts off with, “I read on the news today some information, that homosexuals will be getting married in Alabama today, so I wanted to give you a live report from Blount County.” Hoooo boy, here we go. An Alabama good old boy sharing his thoughts on gay marriage can’t end well, right? Wrong. This guy gets it and the video is a great example of the sly humor prevalent throughout the South, especially when we’re dealing with people who think we’re all a bunch of backwards gun nuts who live in trailer parks and drink Bud Light.

“This pile of brush is still here, and there are no homosexuals layin’ on top of it, doin’ homosexual things,” he continues in a slow, subtle dig at gay rights opponents before moving on to checking on the pile of junk behind the shed. “We’re back here by a pile of junk — and it’s still here — and there’s no homosexuals doin’ homosexual things here either, so it looks like we’re pretty safe here in Blount County, don’t think we’re gonna be subject to plagues of homosexuals fallin’ from the sky.” He concludes with claiming the only thing looking suspicious is a couple of squirrels, which he’ll check out later.

What I love about this video is that not only is he taking jabs at opponents of gay rights, he’s also poking people who like to stereotype Southerners as intolerant, cross-burning rednecks. While the KKK has come out in support of Chief Justice Roy Moore and his battle against the federal government over same-sex marriage, it’s safe to say that many self-described “rednecks” in Alabama and elsewhere may not necessarily be supportive, but they’re not going to stand in the way either. A lot of rural, blue-collar folks I’ve run into seem to have the attitude that while they don’t necessarily approve, it isn’t any of their business and they don’t care. In fact, a recent poll shows that 60 percent of people likely to vote in the 2016 elections support the right for same-sex couples to get married, which is a huge change from just a few years ago.


I don’t know what Jeremy Todd Addaway’s political affiliation is, but a lot of conservatives are beginning to realize that gay marriage doesn’t affect them and really isn’t any of their business. At least he didn’t say “Roll Tide.” That’s a level of acceptance I haven’t achieved yet.




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  • Pipercat

    Bwahahahhahaaaa! Outstanding!!

  • Marilyn Olsen Scheffler

    I love it! I hope the real true rednecks see themselves in his humor!!

  • bestfriend

    I have some concerns about his portrayal of individuals who live in rural areas, but, I guess it’s all in good fun, and with a very important message for the people

  • GenerallyConfused

    More people need this outlook on things that are none of their business.

  • Jackson Skipper III

    well that kind of makes since.. he’s not near any population.. so what the population does has little to no affect on him or his kids. and of course I’m not against gay marriage.. I’m against teaching people that gay is normal.. some children are too young and impressionable to be told such things. Some will do things they normally wouldn’t because we all have pressure to be normal when growing up.. and if gay is normal.. then all kids are going to defile their bodies. then when they grow up.. all of which being sexually confused.. they will start legalizing things like incest… have fun with that society… and again.. I am ok with allowing people to make the choice to marry the same sex.. but it IS a choice.. and it is NOT normal.

    • Retrodude

      It is NOT a choice. If it is, then when did YOU choose to be straight? There is no excuse for such ignorance in 2015. Good God that was a stupid comment.

      • Jackson Skipper III

        i agree.. there is no excuse for your ignorance… everyone has a choice in who they have sex with.. and who they marry… i guess you don’t think pedophiles have a choice on who they have there sexual relationships with either.. ignorant ass.. there is a difference between desire and action.. action is always your choice.

      • Retrodude

        People can choose whom they have sex with or marry yes- but they cannot change or choose their sexual ORIENTATION. I’m simply not attracted to females whatsoever- as I am GAY. THEREFORE I AM ATTRACTED TO MEN. It’s really as simple as that. When did you choose to be straight? At what age did you become heterosexual? And only idiots equate pedophiles with gays- homosexuality is between TWO CONSENTING ADULTS, pedophilia is not, neither is beastiality. Your argument is invalid, and rather immature. And two consenting adults of the same sex marrying each other does no harm to others.

        As for teaching kids about gays- THAT IS PART OF BEING A FUCKING PARENT, asshole. My 10 year old niece knows I’m gay with a partner and could care less about it- she’s far more concerned about cookies. You are rather ignorant on the subject.

      • Jackson Skipper III

        at what point did a psychopath choose to become a psychopath?

        Does that mean that a murderous lifestyle was not the choice of the psychopath?

        And what about hormone manipulation? Could it be possible that you weren’t supposed to be gay? maybe things that have happened prior to your birth have caused some type of chemical imbalance influencing you in such a way.. i know you can take a really masculine man and give him estrogen and watch him become feminine.. does that mean him being feminine is natural?

      • Retrodude

        A psychopath is MENTALLY ILL, dear. That is completely irrelevant to homosexuals. Funny how you refuse to answer when it was YOU chose to be straight.

        What about hormone manipulation? Once again, it’s irrelevant to this subject. Nobody chooses to be gay- they either are, or they aren’t. What “things” happens to babies in the womb to cause them to be gay later in life? Nobody gave me hormones to be homosexual, you fucking idiot. You really don’t get it, do you?

      • Jackson Skipper III

        so rather than actually debating real issues.. you just rather write them off as irrelevant.. whatever dude. you don’t want the truth.. you want to win an argument.. with no regard for right or wrong.. all you care about is your own personal agenda.

      • Ty

        Jackson, this is not a debate, argument or a choice. This happens in the womb. You don’t CHOOSE to be straight. I didn’t CHOOSE to be straight. He didn’t CHOOSE to be gay. That is just the way it is. People have been gay throughout history. Accept it and move on.
        Every species on earth has homosexual tendencies but ONE…..ONE species has homophobic tendencies..that would be us. Please stop the hate. And yes. On a certain level, you are spewing hate.

      • Jackson Skipper III

        1- never met any who is scared of gay people.. Homophobic doesn’t exist period.

        2- how come i can choose to be gay?

        3- prove that it happens in the womb.

        4- what hate?

        From the beginning I have said i think you should have the choice to be with who you choose, how am I hating.. i just don’t want the next guy to point at the gays and say, “i didn’t have a choice, i was made this way”.. The idea of marrying based on “Love” or “attraction” was always very unpopular until just recently.. people married for all types of reasons, and people ignored attractions and “love” — love developed from relationships.. people made choices.. people married for money.. status.. and for peace.. to settle debts.. etc.. until recently.. marrying for love or attraction was very rare.. so to say you have no choice is just stupid.. everyone always has a choice.

      • Ty

        No Jackson. You can’t choose to be gay. Just like Retrodude can’t choose to be straight. Live and let live, buddy.

      • Jackson Skipper III

        lol.. i have watched women do it.. and i’ve considered it.. i know i can choose to do it.. i choose not to do it.

      • Jackson Skipper III

        and tell me why so many.. and i mean like pretty much all from what i can tell.. gay men want to turn a strait man gay… why???? why???? tell me why all your gay buddies get so excited to go after married men ???? if they really believed it wasn’t a choice.. why waste time with someone who can’t choose to sleep with you? Don’t they realize that strait men don’t have a choice and can’t be with them??? why do they waste there time.. do they know something that you don’t want to admit.. like.. ITS A CHOICE!

      • Mark Krajnak

        So when did you choose to be straight? Because I’m straight, and i don’t remember having to make that choice, i just am. If you actually had to make the decision to be straight…i’m afraid I’ve got some bad news….break out the rainbow flag buddy, because if you can even think for one second that orientation is a choice. It means that at one point in your life, you had to make that choice. I’m sorry, twist the handle, push and step out of the closet. You are probably gay.

      • Jackson Skipper III

        lol.. so you never been hit on by a man? you never faced any temptation and over came it? so you never chose to go after a woman? some times we make choices with out thinking about it.. but we are still making choices.. even if you don’t remember.

      • GL

        “why do [gay men] love hitting on straight men so much?” Why do straight men like hitting on lesbians so much? Answer that one, and you’ll have your answer.

      • Jackson Skipper III

        the answer is.. because we know it’s a choice.

      • GL

        I’m a straight man and I know damn well it isn’t a choice.

      • Jackson Skipper III

        you just make choices with out thinking.. doesn’t mean it wasn’t a choice.

      • GL

        Actually, if we want to talk about your definition of sexual orientation, then by your definition (sexual actions we choose to take) I’m actually an asexual. And I’m not asexual, no matter what my lack of sexual history may say.

      • Jackson Skipper III

        ok well the argument of it being a choice should have never happened.. and it’s presented very poorly.. it’s also unfair to anyone to be labelled for an idea they were fond of.. but i can understand labeling someone by their actions.. that actually makes since… but no one wants to hear something that actually helps our society..

      • Promise Whitley

        All of your arguments (which are the same, old tired arguments that always get trotted out on this subject and which have be proven to be wrong a million times over) all boil down to “because Bible” or “because God.” Those are terrible reasons to try to justify anything. Not only are they incredibly sanctimonious and arrogant (based on the presumption that your version of Christianity is the only right perspective and the only right way to be), but they’re the same reasons that ISIS is using (only instead of “because Bible” they say “because Koran” and instead of “because God” they say “because Allah”) to justify killing Christians. Religion is NEVER a good excuse or reason or argument for anything, especially since all the gods ever worshiped and all the religions ever practiced are man-created. You can call it love all you want, but you’ve actually completely missed the point of the message that your “god” Jesus Christ gave. No matter what you say about this or any other topic, as long as your reasons continue to be based on “because Bible/because God” you will always be wrong.

      • Jackson Skipper III

        several women that claimed to be 100 percent lesbian have ended up sleeping with me.. so sometimes lesbians make the choice to be with a man.. it’s all about choice man.. and we all have it.. and we all know it.. even if we don’t want to admit it for what ever reason

      • Promise Whitley

        They may have identified as lesbian, but the reality was they were bisexual.

      • Promise Whitley

        I answered this above. The answer is really simple: this doesn’t happen except in the scared little minds of homophobes.

      • Promise Whitley

        WTF are you talking about? You say homophobia doesn’t exist, but that right there is homophobia. People are attracted to people that they can’t be with all of the time. Sometimes people make the mistake of pursuing those relationships. That doesn’t mean that is typical of homosexuals. Gay men aren’t walking around trying to convert straight men into being gay. That’s just a homophobic fear.

      • Promise Whitley

        So what you’re really saying is that you are bisexual.

      • Jackson Skipper III

        and to answer your question.. just like everyone else.. i choose to be gay or strait all the time.. there isn’t a starting point.. every relationship decision i make is a choice.. i can pursue whoever at any time.

      • GL

        That’s not a choice to be gay or straight, though. That’s a choice to act in a certain way. Assuming you are biologically male and present as such (apologies, but I need to limit myself or the examples get weird), you can act in ways that your society deems stereotypically feminine (in the US, this includes baking, wearing dresses, sitting to urinate, etc.) without being or presenting as female. The only thing that can be said is that you are behaving, for whatever reason, in a stereotypically feminine fashion, but that you are masculine.
        Similarly, you could have sexual intercourse with a woman for five straight years in order to conceal the fact that you are gay (because, perhaps, you’re running for office in Mississippi), and despite your actions you would still be gay. Gay, straight, bisexual, transgender: these are not dependent on one’s actions. They are dependent on one’s -self-.

      • Promise Whitley

        Wow. You are equating homosexuality with psychopathy? You really are a sick twist.

      • Jackson Skipper III

        also i would like to add that people can learn to like whatever they want.. you can train your brain. I haven’t always been attracted to the same things.. i learned that something weren’t healthy for me to like and practiced liking things that are more healthy. If you are focused on what you want now and not changing for anyone and all you care about is justifying your desires.. well i guess you aren’t training your brain to like something that is more healthy for you and others around you.. but that’s not your concern is it.. your concern is getting dick and not feeling bad about it.. your concern is what everyone else thinks of you so you promote this notion of it’s not your choice.. and don’t get me wrong.. i do think you are a victim.. and are in a bad situation because of sin that happened leading up to your birth.. but at some point we have to stop blaming others and take responsibility for our actions.

      • Retrodude

        You are utterly retarded. Seriously. So according to your, “logic”, then you could train yourself to like dick? That’s not how it works, dude. I’m 42, and I simply don’t get a boner over a naked lady.

        And “sin that happened leading up to your birth”…. WHAT IN THE HOLY FUCK ARE YOU BLABBERING ABOUT? You need to be locked away in a padded room. Some people are GAY- get over it. It doesn’t concern you, it’s none of your goddamn business.

      • Jackson Skipper III

        i could explain what i meant by that.. but i think i’m wasting my time because; while you ask the question.. you have no desire to learn the answer.. you’re only goal is to defend your beliefs.. you aren’t willing to question your preconceived notions and therefore are beyond enlightenment..

        and yes.. i could train myself to like dick.. but that would be a bad choice on my part.

      • Retrodude

        Wrong. I’ve spent my entire 42 years questioning my “preconceived notions”. Same thing could be said to YOU. WHEN DID YOU CHOOSE TO BE HETEROSEXUAL? Answer the damn question. You can’t, because you didn’t choose it. Nobody chooses it. During puberty, we figure out how we’re wired.

        See, humans are all born with both male and female DNA. Some of us get more of one sex’s DNA than others- THAT RESULTS IN SOME OF US BEING HOMOSEXUAL. Amazing concept! Pity you’re too stupid to grasp it. Instead, you keep blabbing about sin or some dumb shit like that. I could say YOUR goal is to defend YOUR beliefs. I’ve studied homosexuality. I’ve spoken to clergymen about it. My parents and family always knew I was gay, probably before I did. Once again, someone being gay is none of your concern, so not sure why you care so much about it. Me thinks you doth protest too much.

      • Jackson Skipper III

        i have answered your question and will answer it again.. there isn’t a begining.. it’s an ongoing decision.. i can decide at any point to pursue whoever I choose.. always.. i decide every relationship i pursue.. and you are concerned with how man has rewired you and how to accept the sin that you are allowing to define you. I am more concerned with the purpose of man kind per our creator.. not so concerned with fitting in with satans perversions of man.

      • Retrodude

        Well good for you. But for me, after 42 years on Earth, I’m still not attracted to females whatsoever. The thought of having sex with a woman is frankly a huge turn-off to me. Satan does not exist- you’re speaking in fairy tales. There is no boogeyman making us to “bad things”- I suppose you still think the Earth is flat too? My sexuality does NOT define me either, you fundamentalist asshole. I could care less what you are concerned about either- you obviously spend way too much time about things that do NOT concern you. Gays have existed since the dawn of humans, and will always exist. Scientists are on the verge of determining what causes some to be homosexual, and it’s not the Devil.

      • Jackson Skipper III

        funny.. you were the first to mention God.. and now you say that satan doesn’t exist.. I am sure that is a comforting thought for someone who can’t accept that your thoughts are flawed and you don’t want to accept God’s dominion over you.. you tend to be happy with sins control over your life. I don’t think you want to let that go.. but hey. you make your choices.. i make mine.. and there are consequences for us all.. and no matter how many ways you convince yourself that God doesn’t exist.. It won’t change the truth..

      • Retrodude

        Satan doesn’t exist. How quaint. And you don’t have any more knowledge about the existence of God than I or anybody else does. It’s all opinion at the end of the day. No sins control my life either, and I am so FUCKING SICK AND TIRED of you braindead Christians constantly judging and hating on people. There’s a reason why so many people are leaving the church today.

        I live MY life MY way- you do the same. Stop worrying about those icky gay people and live your life. All your fundamental posturing won’t change anything- gay people will continue to be gay. If your God was so against homosexuality, he would have wiped us out thousands of years ago. I just met a man with Down’s Syndrome who’s as gay as they come- I suppose some “sin” is making him gay too? FUCK OFF. Done talking to you and I don’t need a sermon, thanks.

      • Jackson Skipper III

        actually i’m not hating.. i’m doing the opposite.. i’m loving you enough to tell you the truth and help you avoid destroying yourself as well as others in the community.. I know your actions don’t affect me.. so if i stayed out of it I would only be concerned about myself.. but guess what.. i care about you.. and i care about the people you influence.. so i’m trying to help.. but you prefer to enjoy the ride on the white water rafting trip even though you lost your paddles and are loosing control quickly.. maybe you never had paddles to begin with. .but i am putting my hand out to bring you to safe land before you hit the waterfall and it’s too late.. you are refusing to take my hand.. why? cause you are only concerned with the ride, not where it leads…

      • Retrodude

        Darling, I don’t need you to tell me anything. I know the truth, nor am I destroying myself. I’m perfectly happy, been with my partner for 20 years in May. What community are you speaking of? Are you as fucking concerned about the thousands of STRAIGHT people out there destroying themselves too? Of course you aren’t.

        Leave people alone. YOU aren’t above anyone else- nor do YOU have any sort of special knowledge us “sinners” don’t. Such fucking arrogance of you people.

      • Jackson Skipper III

        again.. you are being judgmental.. i do care about other issues as well. I speak out about issues that all people are creating.. it’s not only some confused arguments that the gay community likes to make.. i am very fast to speak up against many issues that are plaguing our society.

        i’m am highly involved in racial disputes.. atheist debates.. and speak out against the promotion of misunderstood Christian practices and beliefs. Also political issues and scandals.. among so many more issues facing our society.

      • Retrodude

        We now face religious jingoism, the imposition of personal beliefs on the whole pluralistic society. Worse still, these beliefs are irrational, just a fiction of blind conviction. Nowhere does the Bible actually oppose homosexuality.

        In the past 60 years, we have learned more about sex, by far, than in preceding millennia. Is it likely that an ancient people, who thought the male was the basic biological model and the world flat, understood homosexuality as we do today? Could they have even addressed the questions about homosexuality that we grapple with today? Of course not.

        Hard evidence supports this commonsensical expectation. Taken on its own terms, read in the original languages, placed back into its historical context, the Bible is ho-hum on homosexuality, unless – as with heterosexuality – injustice and abuse are involved.

        That, in fact, was the case among the Sodomites (Genesis 19), whose experience is frequently cited by modern anti-gay critics. The Sodomites wanted to rape the visitors whom Lot, the one just man in the city, welcomed in hospitality for the night.

        The Bible itself is lucid on the sin of Sodom: pride, lack of concern for the poor and needy (Ezekiel 16:48-49); hatred of strangers and cruelty to guests (Wisdom 19:13); arrogance (Sirach/Ecclesiaticus 16:8); evildoing, injustice, oppression of the widow and orphan (Isaiah 1:17); adultery (in those days, the use of another man’s property), and lying (Jeremiah 23:12).

        But nowhere are same-sex acts named as the sin of Sodom. That intended gang rape only expressed the greater sin, condemned in the Bible from cover to cover: hatred, injustice, cruelty, lack of concern for others. Hence, Jesus says “Love your neighbor as yourself” (Matthew 19:19; Mark 12:31); and “By this will they know you are my disciples” (John 13:35).

        How inverted these values have become! In the name of Jesus, evangelicals and Catholic bishops make sex the Christian litmus test and are willing to sacrifice the social safety net in return.

        The longest biblical passage on male-male sex is Romans 1:26-27: “Their women exchanged natural intercourse for unnatural, and in the same way also the men, giving up natural intercourse with women, were consumed with passion for one another.”

        The Greek term para physin has been translated unnatural; it should read atypical orunusual. In the technical sense, yes, the Stoic philosophers did use para physin to mean unnatural, but this term also had a widespread popular meaning. It is this latter meaning that informs Paul’s writing. It carries no ethical condemnation.

        Compare the passage on male-male sex to Romans 11:24. There, Paul applies the term para physin to God. God grafted the Gentiles into the Jewish people, a wild branch into a cultivated vine. Not your standard practice! An unusual thing to do — atypical, nothing more. The anti-gay “unnatural” hullabaloo rests on a mistranslation.

        Besides, Paul used two other words to describe male-male sex: dishonorable (1:24, 26) and unseemly (1:27). But for Paul, neither carried ethical weight. In 2 Corinthians 6:8 and 11:21, Paul says that even he was held in dishonor — for preaching Christ. Clearly, these words merely indicate social disrepute, not truly unethical behavior.

        In this passage Paul is referring to the ancient Jewish Law: Leviticus 18:22, the “abomination” of a man’s lying with another man. Paul sees male-male sex as an impurity, a taboo, uncleanness — in other words, “abomination.” Introducing this discussion in 1:24, he says so outright: “God gave them up … to impurity.”

        But Jesus taught lucidly that Jewish requirements for purity — varied cultural traditions — do not matter before God. What matters is purity of heart.

        “It is not what goes into the mouth that defiles a person, but it is what comes out of the mouth that defiles,” reads Matthew 15. “What comes out of the mouth proceeds from the heart, and this is what defiles. For out of the heart come evil intentions, murder, adultery, fornication, theft, false witness, slander. These are what defile a person, but to eat with unwashed hands does not defile.”

        Or again, Jesus taught, “Everyone who looks at a women with lust has already committed adultery with her in his heart” (Matthew 5:28). Jesus rejected the purity requirements of the Jewish Law.

        In calling it unclean, Paul was not condemning male-male sex. He had terms to express condemnation. Before and after his section on sex, he used truly condemnatory terms: godless, evil, wicked or unjust, not to be done. But he never used ethical terms around that issue of sex.

        As for marriage, again, the Bible is more liberal than we hear today. The Jewish patriarchs had many wives and concubines. David and Jonathan, Ruth and Naomi, and Daniel and the palace master were probably lovers.

        The Bible’s Song of Songs is a paean to romantic love with no mention of children or a married couple. Jesus never mentioned same-sex behaviors, although he did heal the “servant” — pais, a Greek term for male lover — of the Roman Centurion.

        Paul discouraged marriage because he believed the world would soon end. Still, he encouraged people with sexual needs to marry, and he never linked sex and procreation.

        Were God-given reason to prevail, rather than knee-jerk religion, we would not be having a heated debate over gay marriage. “Liberty and justice for all,” marvel at the diversity of creation, welcome for one another: these, alas, are true biblical values.

      • Retrodude

        1) Science can’t prove God exists, but we write science off
        2) Science hasn’t found exacting information to support gay is a legit state of being, so we use that to further our argument.

        See how we cherry pick ALL THE THINGS?

        Also, Thomas Jefferson was one who agreed that being black was illness that could be cured. You aren’t born black, you choose to be black.

        See what I did there?

        What we have here–as so often we do–is an example of how the majority opinion is able to exploit the minority because they can’t relate to the minority at all, therefore the minority must exist by choice.

        An example: Poverty is a choice. People shouldn’t get welfare because if they wanted my wonderful life, all they’d have to do is show up willing to work 9-5 to get it. I am not poor, therefore poverty is a choice.

        Reread the article, read history, ask God to be with you when you read his modernized Bible, and consider how ludicrous you and your fading brethren sound.

        To say the Bible condemns homosexuality is ignorant. Look up the word homosexual. Doesn’t even exist in our own culture until the late 1800s. Oh, but when we do invent the word and inject it into the Bible, all the sudden every culture from all over the world and history meant exactly that, right? You can’t project modern culture onto other and previous culture and call yourself right. That’s what we call Imperialism.

      • Jackson Skipper III

        there were words to describe homosexuality in roman times.. i guess you weren’t aware of the roman bath houses.

      • Retrodude

        IT’S NOT THE FUCKING SAME THING! WILL YOU FUCKING SHUT UP! God you are a pain in the ass! MIND. YOUR. OWN. FUCKING. BUSINESS. DO NOT REPLY TO ME AGAIN.

      • Jackson Skipper III

        you can stop replying to me just as easy.. i guess this is part of the whole .. I’m not responsible for my choices thing.

      • Jackson Skipper III

        you don’t have to reply either…

      • Promise Whitley

        And, so? For one thing, the Roman bath houses existed primarily as a place where people when to, you know, BATHE. Secondly, homosexuality has always existed. It exists in other animals and it has always existed in humans. Some ancient cultures were actually more enlightened than the modern one and didn’t condemn homosexuality.

        Just add history to the things Guest mentions but doesn’t know anything about nor understand.

      • Retrodude

        People used to talk in a rather crude and basic way about “sex acts” as though the scope of sexuality was exhausted by a list of behaviours. It regarded sexuality as a kind of “X” factor that kicked in on the way to bed, and could be described using euphemisms such as “homosexual genital acts”. This terminology is vague, stupid and inadequate. It implies that only the particular things that people do have a sexual dimension to them.

        It would be far more accurate to see all behaviour as having a sexual dimension to some degree. Euphemisms about homosexuality are often confusing and vague. They break down when expressed in anger. Furious letters are penned to supporters of gay rights, denouncing them for trying to be kind but “encouraging buggery”. The last word is written in large capital letters, underlined with stabbing motions until it goes through the paper.

        The evidence is, however, that the majority of gay people do not engage in anal sex, while a significant proportion of straight couples do. Allowing the wrongness of anal sex, those who wish to suppress it would do far better to focus their energies on the 85% of those who practise it who are not gay than to make it the defining characteristic of gay people in order to try and stir up disgust against them.

        What is “practising” homosexuality? Holding hands? Sitting on the sofa together watching The Simpsons? Unless people are prepared to be more specific about exactly which sexual behaviours require correction, and to apply their rules equally to gay and straight people, it is hard to see a basis here for decisions that will stand up to judicial review.

        Nor is it clear what we should mean by “biblical marriage”. Generally speaking, Old Testament marriage customs and mores reflect the social mores of the people in the story. Adam and Eve sound like the original simple nuclear family, one plus one for life. In a way, that was all they could be, since they were the only two people in the world at the time.

        In Genesis 38, Levirate marriage comes on the scene. This is the involuntary marriage of a man to his brother’s widow in order to continue the line. This kind of marriage was still theoretically current enough in Jesus’s day for it to be the basis of a question the Sadducees asked him about a bride, seven brothers and resurrection (Matthew 22:23–32).

        Deuteronomy institutes another involuntary form of marriage. A virgin automatically becomes the wife of her rapist, who is then required to pay the victim’s father 50 shekels for the loss of his property rights. Unlike other Old Testament marriages, these are held to be indissoluble.

        In Numbers 31:17–18 we find another form of involuntary marriage. A male soldier is entitled to take as many virgins as he likes for his wives from among his booty, but must kill his other prisoners. In Deuteronomy 21:11–14, marriage is made by selecting a beautiful woman from among the spoils of war, shaving her head and paring her nails. These marriages are dissoluble if she fails to please, but the woman is no longer saleable. Throughout much of the Old Testament, marriage does not require sexual exclusivity. Concubines are allowed, alongside wives. Abraham had only two concubines, where Solomon had 300, along with his 700 wives.

        The basic principle of these relationships is that if a woman’s father pays a man to take her away, she is his wife. If he pays her father to take her away, she is his concubine.

        None of these arrangements, except perhaps that enjoyed by Adam and Eve, would be recognised as marriage today. Pretending that the church’s present stance is biblical is not going to fool anyone who doesn’t want to be fooled, and fewer and fewer people do.

      • Jackson Skipper III

        It seems you are just making the water muddy so people can’t see the truth… you want to make choice equivlate to thoughts or desires.. To my knowledge the only thing discussed that does that is the gay agenda.. everyone else seems to be held accountable for actions.. being gay is not a thought or desire.. you can say it is all you want.. but that’s not the way it works in anything else.. being a murderer is not about thought or desire.. being a brilliant scientist is not about thought or desire.. being a lawyer is not about thought or desire.. being gay is not about thought or desire.. labels are based on our output.. so gay isn’t about being attracted to someone any more than being a pedophile is.. what makes you what you are is your output.. and it is your choice.. when did you first choose to give in to your gay desires?? that’s when you started being gay. and if you choose to stop.. that’s when you stop being gay… just like when i choose to start lying about things.. that’s when i become a liar.. when i stop lying about things.. that’s when i’m no longer a liar.

      • Retrodude

        There is no gay agenda- what would our agenda be, exactly? To turn everyone gay? Why would we do that? My only “agenda” is to live my life the way it makes ME happy.

        It’s irrelevant when I “gave in to my gay desires”- I’ve never had any straight desires. I’ve tried sex with women- doesn’t work. ZERO attraction. Sure, I could choose to never have sex with a man again- BUT I WOULD STILL BE A GAY MAN, JUST A LONELY, MISERABLE ONE. You are so fucked up and ignorant it’s scary. Leave me alone. Mind your own business. Let people be.

      • Jackson Skipper III

        the agenda is to have something that is known to be wrong seen as healthy and normal.. the goal is to keep man from making you feel guilty for something you want to do.

      • Retrodude

        It’s not “known to be wrong”- how is it wrong? How does it affect others, or hurt anyone? I have no guilt for being gay, because I know I’m wired that way. We all get both male and female DNA- some of us get more than others. But some are too stupid to understand this, and scream about sin and Satan and other such nonsense.

        THERE IS NO GAY AGENDA- mores and attitudes change over time. People like YOU used to think the same thing about blacks and Mexicans, and used your same tired arguments about interracial marriage. I am perfectly healthy and normal- I go to the bathroom just like everybody else, I eat and sleep, go to work and pay my taxes. I’m not defined by my sex life either. YOU are the minority today, not me. Most people could care less about gay people. Done talking to you. Don’t reply.

      • Jackson Skipper III

        well.. was it not commonly known to be wrong at some point in the recent past?

      • Retrodude

        Yes, you guys were wrong then, and you’re wrong now. Always on the wrong side of history.

      • GL

        Common knowledge does not imply correct knowledge. Back in the time of Columbus, common knowledge was that demons were the cause of disease. It was common knowledge, but it was WRONG.

      • Jackson Skipper III

        For all we know, demons may have authority over bacteria. . So you are making assumptions

      • GL

        Fine, we’ll go with another common knowledge theory that’s been fully debunked: disease is simply caused by “foul air”, and “sweet air” keeps one healthy. Common knowledge? Absolutely. Wrong? Absolutely.

      • Jackson Skipper III

        or even more recent than that.. the one where people thought it was common knowledge that your sexuality isn’t a choice. — honestly i don’t care anymore.. I don’t want anything to do with this site anymore.. i have already emailed the owners asking to be completelly removed in every way possible.. i really don’t want anything to do it’s horrible comment design nor do i like that i didn’t get to change my name to avoid harrassment.. nor can i delete my account or any comments.. plus half my comments go in to moderation and never make it on the page.. there are a lot of problems in just the administration.. much less it’s ignorant followers.. i want nothing to do with any of you.

      • Promise Whitley

        I’m guessing you’ve never take a basic biology class much less one in microbiology. Bacteria don’t try to cause disease, they are just trying to survive and replicate. There are no such thing as demons. There are really horrible people, however. You’re one of them.

      • Promise Whitley

        It was commonly known to be wrong for women to vote or to wear pants in public at one point, too. Are you saying we need to undo all human progress and return to a time when only a small sector of society had any rights?

        Oh, yeah, you are, because you and your ilk want to be the only ones with any power and you want everyone else to be your slaves.

      • Promise Whitley

        The only ones trying to make anyone feel guilty are religious nut-jobs. There’s nothing inherently wrong with not having a 100% heterosexual orientation, despite what the religious nut-jobs say.

      • Promise Whitley

        You can try to choose to define homosexuality as being based solely on action, but the rest of the world doesn’t. Just because you see it that way doesn’t make it the “right” way. You are so blinded by your own conviction that you cannot see the truth blazing all around you.

        Also, you’re basically saying that it’s ok for people to have same-sex attraction as long as they don’t ever act on it. That’s an incredibly cruel thing to preach to people, especially if those people happen to believe there’s some sort of post-life repercussion for simply being who they were born to be. Basically, you’re telling them that they have to be miserable and lonely and never experience the love and connection that heterosexuals get to experience, simply because they were born different or something horrible will happen to them. Anyone who thinks like that is simply a horrible person.

      • willow trace

        OMG Give it up You really dont know what the hell you are talking about…have you been gay, have you been a scientist have you been a murderer If not then How In the world would you know if when or what they desire! And it sounds more like you are a denier than a liar…and straight is spelled straight! And HOW Dare you even put gay and pedophile in the same sentence….

      • Jackson Skipper III

        again you are siting the old testament and i’m Christian.. you must site the New testament to make a point.. unless the new testament points you to something of the old testament in particular to reference.

      • Retrodude

        EXACTLY. So you just proved yourself wrong.

      • Jackson Skipper III

        not at all.. but this stopped being a discussion .. it’s just angry gays mad at me for being honest.. willing to say anything to protect their feelings.. God bless you .. have a wonderful Valentines Day.. i plan to.

      • Retrodude

        Actually, you did. All that was in the Old Testament. Jesus never said anything about homosexuality. And you aren’t being honest- you are spouting YOUR OPINIONS. You are the most arrogant person I’ve ever spoken to- typical Christian behavior.

      • Jackson Skipper III

        You should re-read the new testament.. maybe check out what Revelations says about it.

      • Retrodude

        Strictly speaking, the New Testament says nothing at all about homosexuality.

        There is not a single Greek word or phrase in the entire New Testament that should be translated into English as “homosexual” or “homosexuality.” In fact, the very notion of “homosexuality”—like that of “heterosexuality,” “bisexuality,” and even “sexual orientation”—is essentially a modern concept that would simply have been unintelligible to the New Testament writers. The word “homosexuality” came into use only in the latter part of the nineteenth century, and, as New Testament scholar Victor Paul Furnish notes, it and related terms “presume an understanding of human sexuality that was possible only with the advent of modern psychological and sociological analysis.” In other words, “The ancient writers . . . were operating without the vaguest conception of what we have learned to call ‘sexual orientation’.”1 (In the rest of this article I shall use the terms “homosexual” and “homosexuality” strictly for the sake of convenience.)

      • William Deery

        Dude, you’ve won this argument. Kudos……..

      • Retrodude

        You know it, I know it, but some dunce on here just can’t seem to accept it.

      • Retrodude

        None of the four gospels mentions the subject. This means that, so far as we know, Jesus never spoke about homosexuality, and we simply have no way of determining what his attitude toward it might have been. Moreover, there is nothing about homosexuality in the Book of Acts, in Hebrews, in Revelation, or in the letters attributed to James, Peter, John, and Jude. Further, homosexuality is not mentioned in ten of the thirteen letters attributed to Paul. It is only in Romans 1:26–27, 1 Corinthians 6:9–10, and 1 Timothy 1:8–11 that there may be references to homosexuality.2 The paucity of references to homosexuality in the New Testament suggests that it was not a matter of major concern either for Jesus or for the early Christian movement.

        And since we don’t all follow your religious beliefs, it’s quite irrelevant what your little book says about it anyway. I’m not a Christian, therefore the words in your fairy tale book mean nothing to me.

      • Jackson Skipper III

        you have twisted this in to something i didn’t say.. i said it IS A CHOICE AND IT”S NOT NORMAL… as far as Jesus goes .. he said King James Bible “And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh?” Mathew 19:5

      • Jackson Skipper III

        I was never trying to condemn homosexuality.. I was trying to condemn the teachings they have used to support it.. this bullshit about not having a choice.. and this bullshit about it being normal… you stray from the point muddy the water and find flaws in me(which i never claimed to be perfect).. but that doesn’t change the original issue.. and what my point is.

      • Retrodude

        NOT ONE PERSON has ever “chosen” to be gay, you idiot. And since we all have both male/female DNA in us, and since homosexuality is found in over 1400 species on Earth, then IT IS ABSOLUTELY NORMAL.

      • Jackson Skipper III

        bullshit..i know girls and guys that chose to experiment with homosexuality.

      • Retrodude

        THAT’S WHY THEY CALL IT EXPERIMENTING YOU IDIOT! I’ve experimented with women too back in the day and I couldn’t get it up, since I’m not attracted to women! Boy you sure aren’t the brightest crayon in the box.

        I experimented once with sushi too- and I hated it. Made me gag. That’s how I know I’m not a sushi eater.

      • Retrodude

        Dude, give it up. You lost this debate. WE all know it here. YOU LOST. On the wrong side of history. Bye now.

      • Jackson Skipper III

        again.. my point exactly.. all you care about is winning the debate.. all i care about is sharing the truth.. all men have different desires.. some follow their desires.. some overcome their desires.. it’s not the desires that defines a man.. it is his actions.

      • Promise Whitley

        It’s not the truth. You think it’s the truth, but you’re actually blinded to the real truth. Retrodude has been trying to rip the caul from your eyes and show you the real truth, but you keep stubbornly pasting it back on.

      • Promise Whitley

        The plural of anecdote is not evidence.

        Also, some people aren’t “experimenting,” they’re bisexual or pansexual. It’s not a zero sum all or nothing type of thing. Sexuality exists on a continuum, just like most other things. Stop trying to make the world black and white.

      • Retrodude

        It’s not a choice, and it IS normal for some. I never chose to be gay- I just am. I cannot change that- I cannot magically become attracted to women. Not the way it works.

      • Jackson Skipper III

        i don’t care about what you are attracted to.. you can be attracted to trees for all i care.. you still have a choice.

      • Retrodude

        ARE YOU FUCKING DENSE? Dude, the only choice is to live a lie or to be myself. Sure, I can CHOOSE to never have gay sex again- BUT I’M STILL A CELIBATE GAY MAN! Goddamnit some of you Christians sure are dense.

      • Jackson Skipper III

        why do you say such ignorant things.. as if you can’t choose to be honest and make the decision not to follow your desires.. you don’t have to lie to anyone …

      • Retrodude

        Apparently you can’t read. I said I can choose to never have gay sex again. But I’m still a gay man, just a celibate one. What part of not being attracted to females do you not understand? I swear, reading the Bible must kill iq points.

      • Jackson Skipper III

        and i’m saying that if you choose not to live a gay lifestyle.. you are no longer labelled as gay.. no matter how attracted to a man you are.. just like no matter how much i want to cheat on someone.. i’m not a cheater if i’m not cheating 🙂

      • Retrodude

        I could give two fucks about labels. And why this is any of your concern is beyond me. Mind your own fucking business.

      • willow trace

        You are in denial… you want to cheat with a male but think since you do not Act on it then you are not culpable…you are living a lie and coveting thy neighbor or his wife is one of the Ten Commandments you forgot to Learn…whether or not you Act on it!!

      • Retrodude

        Why is this so important to you? Even IF I chose to be gay- so what? It’s MY fucking life to live= not yours. But nobody chooses it. NOBODY.

      • Jackson Skipper III

        I have stated many times over that i have no problem with you making the choice.. i have a problem with you avoiding accountability for your choices.. or technically i am concerned that many have a problem with it.. and i’m doing my part to raise awareness.

      • Retrodude

        It’s not your problem to worry about, dumbfuck. Nor am I “avoiding accountability” for my choices in life- whatever that means. I”m fully accountable for my choices in life- we all are.

      • Jackson Skipper III

        it’s obvious that the definition of gay needs to be revised .. because it’s current definition creates chaos.. It creates the argument that one isn’t accountable for their actions.. we, as a collective.. need to start defining like it should have always been defined.. as an action.

      • Retrodude

        “We”? Who’s “we” again? Do I have a say in this? Not really sure how the current definition of the word “creates chaos”- the ones creating CHAOS about gay people are the ridiculous religious peole spouting their bible verses. You seem to think WAY too much about men having sex, dude.

      • Jackson Skipper III

        um.. i didn’t ask to see this post.. didn’t search for it.. someone broadcasted it.. and it mades its way to me.. i simply stated what i think about it.. i appreciate you trying to insinuate something about me though. again.. all men are men.. the difference between them is there actions.. not there desires. — so describing a man by his desires just creates chaos because anyone can lie about their desires.. when you define a man by his actions.. it brings order.. rather than the chaos like that of this conversation.

      • willow trace

        GOT CLOSET!

      • Jackson Skipper III

        how many times must i repeat this.. i’m not talking about whether or not it is a choice to be attracted to someone… If you label men by what they are attracted to, you create chaos.. People aren’t always honest about what they are attracted to and it’s not fair to any man to label him based on his attraction.. you can only label a man based on his Choices.. so gay needs to be labelled based on ones choices… not attractions.

      • Jackson Skipper III

        wow.. lots of muddy water and i’m not in the mood to clean.. just wait for it to settle.. and when it does.. we will see who is right.

      • angie497

        “actually i’m not hating.. i’m doing the opposite.”

        No, you’re not. You’re applying your self-righteous standards to his life under cover of a lot of trite, flowery wording.

      • Jackson Skipper III

        ” I am so FUCKING SICK AND TIRED of you braindead Christians constantly judging and hating on people.” that’s a pretty hateful and judgmental statement right there.

      • Retrodude

        Maybe it is. Still sick of being judged though.

      • Jackson Skipper III

        i am not judging you.. only God can do that.. i’m simply informing you of the problematic thought process that you encourage.

      • Retrodude

        You aren’t informing anybody of anything except how loony and arrogant you are.

      • Retrodude
      • Retrodude
      • Retrodude

        SINCE YOU HAD TO GO THERE…
        Dear Dr. Laura,

        Thank you for doing so much to educate people regarding God’s Law. I have learned a great deal from your show, and I try to share that knowledge with as many people as I can. When someone tries to defend the homosexual lifestyle, for example, I simply remind him that Leviticus 18:22 clearly states it to be an abomination. End of debate.

        I do need some advice from you, however, regarding some of the specific laws and how to best follow them.

        a) When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a pleasing odor for the Lord (Lev 1:9). The problem is my neighbors. They claim the odor is not pleasing to them. Should I smite them?

        b) I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus 21:7.In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her?

        c) I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her period of menstrual uncleanliness (Lev 15:19-24). The problem is, how do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offense.

        d) Lev. 25:44 states that I may indeed possess slaves, both male and female, provided they are purchased from neighboring nations. A friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians. Can you clarify? Why can’t I own Canadians?

        e) I have a neighbor who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself?

        f) A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an Abomination(Lev 11:10), it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. I don’t agree. Can you settle this?

        g) Lev 21:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle room here?

        h) Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair around their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by Lev 19:27. How should they die?

        i) I know from Lev 11:6-8 that touching the skin of a dead pig makes me unclean, but may I still play football if I wear gloves?

        j) My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev 19:19 by planting two different crops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing garments made of two different kinds of thread (cotton/polyester blend). He also tends to curse and blaspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that we go to all the trouble of getting the whole town together to stone them? (Lev 24:10-16) Couldn’t we just burn them to death at a private family affair like we do with people who sleep with their in-laws? (Lev. 20:14)

        I know you have studied these things extensively, so I am confident you can help.

        Thank you again for reminding us that God’s word is eternal and unchanging.

        Your devoted disciple and adoring fan.

      • Jackson Skipper III

        you obviously don’t understand that the old testament is designed for a time none of us can understand.. and should only be used when referenced by Jesus.. I mean I’m Christian not Jew.

      • Retrodude

        EXACTLY. Therefore, all your blabber about “sin” and “Satan” is totally irrelevant.

      • Jackson Skipper III

        that is not an accurate statement

      • Ty

        Wow. The more I read about what you are saying…the more I am getting a mental picture of what you look like. I AM a hetrosexual woman who believes in gay marriage and adoption…all the God-given things that we are able to do….they should too. But you, sir are a very back-wooded, backward-thinking degenerate and I am ashamed to know someone like you could be my neighbor.

      • Jackson Skipper III

        i never said they shouldn’t be able to do anything.. i just said they need to take accountability for their choices.. and not everything on the earth is God given.. man has done a lot… speaking of God given.. when you have sex and child is born.. that seems God given to me.. when you go to a scientist or adopt.. seems like a man gave it to you.

      • Donna

        I laughed so hard I cried! Loved all your questions to Dr. Laura – you have a very good sense of humor!

      • willow trace

        Yes..

      • willow trace

        Well Said!

      • BB-Mystic

        Man oh man. Massive “FAIL” here, kiddo. Your comments are the stupidest I have read in a long time.

        societies don’t survive by being gay.. they survive by procreating..

        With the world’s population racing towards eight billion people, why are you even worried about that?

        Also, gay couples certainly do procreate. You know how? They do it the same way infertile straight couples do! Sperm donors, surrogate mothers and adoption! So yes, societies CAN survive with gay couples procreating. I would also suggest that they make better parents than many straight couples, because all those children are wanted and planned for.

        plenty of times i made the choice to pursue the woman that wasn’t ready to have sex with me over the guy that was begging to let him suck my you know what…

        Because, guess what, you weren’t physically attracted to the man, so naturally you wouldn’t want to have sex with him! Also, “the choice to pursue the woman that wasn’t ready to have sex with me”? That’s downright creepy, dude. If she doesn’t want to, or isn’t ready to, have sex with you, you need to back off.

        Finally, it’s absolutely nasty, ignorant and reprehensible to compare pedophiles to gay people. Pedophiles target children who can’t consent, and manipulate and abuse them. That has NOTHING to do with a consenting, loving, adult gay relationship.

      • Jackson Skipper III

        it’s ok.. it’s typical for man to belittle what they don’t understand.. not everyone can be a seeker of knowledge and wisdom.. some just seek after their own personal desires.. I told you the truth.. you reject it and belittle it because you refuse to understand it.. good luck sir.. God bless you.

      • Retrodude

        You are one of the creepiest fuckers ever. Yuck. And fucking arrogant too.

      • Jackson Skipper III

        well that was mature.

      • Victim

        I can’t believe you just said underage people do consent to pedophiles! Do you know the definition of consent?Talk with a lawyer and a psychologist about consent. Children can’t consent. They submit. The power and choice belongs to the pedophile and them alone. When you take the time to talk with experts and victims, I believe you will approach the subject diferently. God bless and hoping you take the time to learn further.

      • Simon Thornhill

        I notice you never choose how to learn to spell did you! Jesus Christ dude read a book once in a while you might learn something!

      • Jackson Skipper III

        you should reword this sentence .. being that you concern is language arts.. “I notice you never choose how to learn to spell did you! ”

        my concern however is not spelling or language arts.. it’s more about correcting problematic arguments

      • Retrodude

        Dude, you aren’t attracted to the same sex, so it’s easy for you to not participate in it. What a loony.

      • Jackson Skipper III

        everyone faces temptation.. not always the same kind.. but i have issues i need to work on as well. I do appreciate your concern.

      • GL

        There’s a difference between “choosing to perform homosexual activities” and “choosing to not be heterosexual”. It’s equivalent to the difference between “choosing to perform stereotypically white activities” and “choosing to be white”. One of those things is possible. The other is not.

      • Jackson Skipper III

        but we are all the same on the inside right??? so the skin color is the only difference.. and we have a small amount of choice in our skin color but not much.. but everything else is the same.. isn’t that the argument? So everything else is up to choice.

    • Simon Thornhill

      Thank you for granting me permission to marry somebody i love! For your information if your children cant understand sexuality gender or love then it is you that has failed as a parent! Its not my responsibility to teach your kids to grow up to be decent human beings to respect that not everybody is going to be the same as them or that they may be different from other children they know. & why do people who argue against the “normality of homosexuality” always feel the need to throw incest into the argument that’s seriously fucked up dude!

      • Jackson Skipper III

        actually parents have less and less control over how their kids are raised every year.. the government and the educational system controlled by the government are taking more and more control over the raising of our children.. Not only that.. i don’t only care about my children.. i care about all of them.. even you.. I don’t like seeing people mislead..

        and the reason we throw that in to the issue.. is we see that gays are being manipulated for an agenda they are unaware of.. this is the satanic agenda.. which does lead to incest.. pedophiles and many other nasty things..

      • GL

        I’m looking at your posts, and I’m wondering if Jackson Skipper Jr. said the same thing to white men who wanted to marry black women, or white women who wanted to marry black men.

        Or maybe you’re old enough that you said those same things, and you’ve just shifted it to the next acceptable target.

      • Jackson Skipper III

        are you afraid to actually discuss the topic.? is your goal to attack my character? because this isn’t about me.. it’s about reveling the truth..

      • Roger Palmer

        Well, Jackson Skipper III seems to be able to identify an “ad hominem” logical fallacy, but remains oblivious to the “slippery slope” fallacy he proposes. Pedophiles do not, and will never, count within this category because children are not seen as responsible decision makers. There’s no where in the United States where legal consent for sexual relations can be given from people under the age of 16. If anything, this is actually far more progressive than 100 years ago when 11 was the legal age of consent. As for incest, gay marriage does not open flood gates here either, as it’s an entirely separate legal matter. While revulsion remains a primary concern for most, remember that historically it was acceptable (royalty and noble castes), but has become illegal due to the legal ramifications of endangering a child’s health through such a copulation. And parent to child relations will never become viable as any supervisory position (Boss to Employee, Teacher to Student), will never be acceptable in the united states.

      • GL

        Unfortunately, your warnings and “chain of events” are, word for word, the exact same things said by those in the 1950s and 1960s who opposed interracial marriage. They didn’t even include letting homosexuals marry in the 1950s; no, interracial marriage led directly to bestiality, polygamy, pedophilia, and incest being legalized — and has any of that happened since the Supreme Court ruled that state bans on interracial marriage were unconstitutional?
        The answer, by the way, is “no”. You’re not revealing the truth. You’re drumming up hysteria.

      • Simon Thornhill

        I would take your comments more seriously & give your ramblings more credence & consideration if you weren’t so very prone to babbling nonsensical bullshit of the highest order i stand by original comments & its meaning its your responsibility as a parent to teach & raise your children if they grow up to become as ill informed deluded & reactionary as you then we’ll know who to blame Instead of spouting meaningless epithets about god the devil hell & satanic agendas try just once once considering just how insignificant the issue of homosexuality truly is to you because it is as meaningless & as irrelevant to you as your implied heterosexuality is to me

      • Jackson Skipper III

        Idk much about that, but all those things are getting more prevalent in our society, maybe they had a point. Anyway even if i was the only influence on my child, i care about all children.. and all society. .. and if you really believe my opinions are meaningless to you, why are you investing time to talk to me.. you are call a bunch of liars that cant have an honest debate..

      • Simon Thornhill

        & whose this “we” you speak of i find it slightly disconcerting that you insist one speaking in the third person! dude i’d go & get that checked out!

      • Promise Whitley

        Satan doesn’t exist.

      • willow trace

        Incest is a Straight Sickness…Several Straight married men in my family are living Proof! And the best Mother I ever had was a Gay Man! So please stop stereotyping because your facts are a bit off!

    • willow trace

      To them it is…

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