Arizona State Sen. Sylvia Allen Says Church Attendance Should Be Mandatory

Arizona state senator Sylvia Allen (R-Snowflake) (Photo: Rob Schumacher / The Republic)

Arizona state senator Sylvia Allen (R-Snowflake)
(Photo: Rob Schumacher / The Republic)

Every time we turn around, another conservative member of a state legislature is proposing some insane and often unconstitutional law. Now a state senator from Arizona has stated that attending church should be mandatory because of the “moral erosion of the soul of America” – and in the meantime, everyone should be allowed to carry guns into public buildings. No, I’m not making this up; yes, this is Arizona, the same state that wants to defund any enforcement of executive orders even though they get a ton of money from the same federal government they’re defying.


KPHO out of Phoenix reports:

Each year a few bills get proposed at the state Capitol that have people shaking their heads.

This year: Mandatory church attendance.

An Arizona state senator thinks it is a good idea for the American people.

State Sen. Sylvia Allen, R-Snowflake, brought it up during a committee meeting Tuesday while lawmaker were debating a gun bill, not religion.

Allen explained that without a “moral rebirth” in the country, more people may feel the need to carry a weapon.

“I believe what’s happening to our country is that there’s a moral erosion of the soul of America,” she said. (Source)

There can’t be a more obvious example of a law that defies the 1st Amendment than what Sylvia Allen is suggesting. Granted, this isn’t a piece of legislation that she’s introducing, but it does show how religious extremism has taken a strong foothold in state legislatures across the country thanks to gerrymandering, off-year elections, voter suppression and rampant apathy from the left. If you think it’s bad now, wait until this time next year when even more of them have been sworn in after the 2015 state elections in Louisiana, Mississippi, Virginia and New Jersey.

In a followup with Arizona Capitol Times, Allen stood by her comments:

On Wednesday, Allen said that was a “flippant comment” but decried the changes since she was a child in the 1950s.

“People prayed, people went to church,” she said in explaining her views.

“I remember on Sundays the stores were closed,” Allen said. “The biggest thing is religion was kicked out of our public places, out of our schools.”

I can’t vouch for the 1950s when she was growing up, but I think it’s a safe assumption that it wasn’t a great time for everyone who wasn’t a white Christian. Especially if you were black, or gay, a woman in the workplace, or any other minority in America for that matter.


My mother grew up in the 1950s and can still remember segregated parks and how my grandmother refused to sit next to black people in a park in Baton Rouge after desegregation, choosing instead to move their picnic basket to the edge of the golf course rather than share her space with them.

I wonder if that is the mythical time that Sylvia Allen wants to go back to? That era when white Christianity dominated our society, and people who didn’t believe in their god were seen as potential Communist infiltrators. Or how about the gay community, or the lynchings of black Americans across the South and the iron grip of the Ku Klux Klan? I’m pretty sure the majority of county sheriffs, store owners and other pillars of the community who donned white robes at night to circle around a burning cross also prayed and went to church on Sundays.

Our country isn’t facing the problems it is because of a lack of religion, no matter what Sylvia Allen or any other fundamentalist Christian politician or pundit has to say. Our problems come from poverty, the outsourcing of jobs, the War on Drugs and many other factors that are contributing to the decline of the most powerful nation the world has ever known – and you can’t simply pray those away.




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  • Vivian Sue House Hughes

    “We the people” remember a time when our elected officials didn’t sell their souls, and our country, to big business to be used and abused and sent to war.

    • guesterer

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      It’s been happening since the beginning of this nation and even before that.

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    • Aileen

      Remember WHEN? Since the United States was founded in 1776, it has been at war during 214 out of its 235 calendar years of existence. In other words, there were only 21 calendar years in which the U.S. did not wage any wars.

      To put this in perspective:

      * Pick any year since 1776 and there is about a 91% chance that America was involved in some war during that calendar year.

      * No U.S. president truly qualifies as a peacetime president. Instead, all U.S. presidents can technically be considered “war presidents.”

      * The U.S. has never gone a decade without war.

      * The only time the U.S. went five years without war (1935-40) was during the isolationist period of the Great Depression.

      And you remember a time when presidents did not do this. You would be the only person in history or on the planet. THIS is why people get so annoyed as the US. You don’t even see how bad you are.

  • StarKissed

    Wow, makes me wonder what the punishment would be for not attending? Burning at the stake? She sounds certifiable. I see another article on her blaming mental illness on healthy food. lol Lock her up, now!

  • Brewblaz

    I wonder if her edict allows mosques?

    • Jen

      Actually, I was wondering who would staff Hospitals, nursing homes, firehouses, ambulances, etc. while everyone is in “church?” What about Wicca and other Earth religions, do they have to have a building to be considered a “church?”
      Some of the kindest, most compassionate people I have met have never darkened the doorstep of an “organized” religion.

      • Brewblaz

        Of course I agree with you 100%, Well some would have to go to church on Friday & Saturdays and miss their football games.

    • Cookie Lipschitz

      Who cares, all us non-Christians are going to hell regardless, right?

  • BobLoblaw

    You can’t spell Arizona without (R-AZ).

  • Creeayshun Sighuntist

    Rep Snow”FLAKE” sure has fond memories of an America that has never existed, except only in her childish mind and view of the tiny town in which she grew up. America is not only made up of small towns, but for whatever reason the GOP idolizes these fearful people who haven’t figured out that the world has CHANGED since the 1790s and will continue to evolve regardless of how much praying they do to hold it back.

    • Marilyn Olsen Scheffler

      That’s exactly what I was thinking when I saw where she was from!! I found it humorous and fitting that she represented a place called Snowflake!!

  • darksock

    For a bunch of folks that keep invoking the Constitution, our Forefathers, the Bill of Rights, etc. they sure do conveniently tend to forget certain pieces and parts (aka separation of church and state?)

  • Sunnysmom

    If there’s a moral erosion of the soul of America, I would argue by and large it’s STARTING in some of these churches. If the church was the moral pulse of society, we wouldn’t have Catholic priests raping little kids or anyone in the church who beats their spouse etc.. Although I happen to believe in God, I don’t need God to be good. I’ll keep my belief in God, in humanism, and love…and they can’t keep their biblically inspired exclusion and hate.

    • Samerica

      TOO BAD THE PROGRESSIVES HAVE NO MORALS OR SOULS
      THAT IS WHY THEY BELIEVE AND PUSH THEIR EVIL AGENDA!

      • Frank Chappell

        Can you take off the Caps Lock, or is that too difficult for you? Go read your Bible, from cover to cover and pay particular attention to the words in red.

      • Sunnysmom

        Yes, people who believe differently than you are soulless and evil. lmao You people crack me up.

  • Doom Shepherd

    Yes, she’s batshit insane. No, she didn’t actually propose a bill or law.
    http://now.snopes.com/2015/03/27/sen-sylvia-allen-suggests-mandatory-church/

  • Thanks, Jeezoids, for your increasingly erratic behavior. It makes it so much easier to explain the atheist position when you have such glaringly bad examples of how theists think.

  • john sustaita

    Even if there was a historical dude named Jesus it is entirely safe to say that he was not a virgin birthed, walking-on-water, wizard, zombie, demi-god. Because that shit is impossible, and anyone who tells you otherwise is a lunatic.

  • Nancy B

    I was a kid in the 50’s. We lived near a small amusement park that had a pool. I can remember the first day they opened the pool up to blacks (but only for 2 hours, mind you). Our family was one of the few white families in an almost empty park because my grandparents hadn’t heard the news. About 6 blacks used the pool, and the park made a show of chlorinating it as soon as the 2 hours were up. My grandparents never took us there to swim again.

    I also attended an all-white church in a neighborhood at the tail end of white flight. There was a military college beside the church, and we actively promoted the church to the college, and welcomed the cadets every Sunday – until some black cadets showed up one day. I’ll say one thing about the congregation. They were polite to them. But sorta forgot to invite them down to the refreshment hour after the service. And the invites stopped.

    Yeah, I want to go back to that.

  • Samerica

    YOUR ‘FORWARD PROGRESSIVES’ HAVE TAKEN THIS COUNTRY
    BACKWARDS NOT FORWARD WITH YOUR LEFT WING AGENDA AND
    ANTI AMERICAN CRAP! MAYBE YOU SHOULD GO TO CHURCH AND
    PRAY FOR SOMETHING OTHER THAN BELIEVING IN LYING CORRUPT
    ARROGANT PROGRESSIVES AND POLITICANS WHO DO NOTHING BUT
    FAIL AT EVERYTHING BUT DESTROYING AND WEAKENING THIS ONCE
    GREAT COUNTRY WHILE MAKING THEMSELVES EVEN RICHER!

    • Grace39582

      You’re joking, right? Have you ever heard of the ONE PERCENT in this country? THEY are the ones getting richer by the nanosecond, and THEY are not progressives. You need to educate yourself, and a good start would be for you to stop watching/listening to Fox News, O’Reilly, Hannigan, Beck, Coulter, and most of all, Limbaugh. Think for yourself instead of regurgitating nonsense you’ve heard from those guys.

  • Janine Johnson

    As for the petition to state no more Bushes in office, I’d sign as long as it also stipulated no more Clintons. There have to be more than two families in the United States that can come up with Presidential candidates. Sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander…

    s

    • plusaf

      It’s not the Bushes or Clintons that the R’s and D’s need to think about…

      http://reason.com/archives/2014/08/26/generation-independent really nails the issue…
      ‘with 150 cable channels and two major parties to choose from, can you blame the Millennials for not liking either major parties?” (paraphrase).
      Enjoy that article.

  • elpiborio

    The new Sarah Palin.This woman needs treatment,she is nuts!!!!!

  • John Tischler

    Is this legislator brain damaged? She refers to an American that “used” to be. She says “We didn’t talk about heroin.” No, moron, people didn’t TALK about it in your glory days, they DID it. The founders of this nation SPECIFICALLY forbade the mixing of Church and State. Whenever religion and politics intermingle, the ultimate result is one thing – tyranny. I’d seriously consider becoming a citizen of Arizona just to vote your dumb ass out of office. Besides, not everyone is Christian if you hadn’t noticed.