Attention Confederate Flag Supporters: Nobody Really Cares What You Think About the Flag

confederate-flag-southHey, Confederate flag supporters. Yeah, you.

From what I’m seeing, you folks seem to think your opinions on the Confederate flag, the Confederacy and the Civil War are felt by the majority of Americans – well, they’re not. And I emphasize the word “opinion” because that’s all you people have – opinions based on what you want to be factual as opposed to what is factual. 


Let’s get this out of the way first: Did states’ rights play a part in the Civil War? Absolutely.

But answer me this: What “right” was it exactly that these Confederate states were fighting to keep the federal government from taking away?

If the Confederacy and the Confederate flag don’t represent racism or slavery, why was the Ku Klux Klan created by former Confederate soldiers almost immediately as the Civil War came to an end, using the Confederate battle flag as a symbol of their beliefs? Was that all just a big coincidence?

Also, why did these former Confederate states enact Jim Crow laws that segregated African-Americans for nearly a century after the defeat of the South? If the Civil War was just about “states’ rights,” then what rights were Jim Crow laws protecting?

But some of you seem to believe that this is about you. Well, I’m going to let you in on a little secret: Nobody cares what you think.

If you want to keep clinging to your delusions about what the Civil War was and what the Confederate flag represents, go right ahead. Flying that flag or wearing some sort of Confederate garb just makes it easier for the rest of us to spot who the fools are.

Now I understand, not everyone who defends this flag is a racist. I’m a born and bred Texan, I know many have been raised to believe that the Confederate flag is just about “Southern pride” and “Southern heritage” – but that’s bullshit. The only reason why that lie has become ingrained in Southern culture is because its meaning has been warped, distorted and altered over history.

It’s called cognitive dissonance. It’s why I’ve often said that while I’ve seen a lot of racism, I’ve met very few racists. It’s people who’ll say things like “I’m not a racist, I just don’t want a black president” who honestly don’t understand that saying that is racist. Just because you begin a sentence with “I’m not a racist” doesn’t make it okay to say something racially offensive afterwards.

Judging anyone based on the color of their skin, in any way, is racism – period. You don’t get to make yourself feel better by picking and choosing what you think is or isn’t racist. Because racism isn’t about you – it’s about those who you’re judging based on the color of their skin.

The main reason why so many people in the South claim that the Confederate flag only represents “Southern heritage” is because for nearly a century following the Civil War the South did everything it could to deny African-Americans their rights, and that flag was a huge symbol used by those people to represent their belief that African-Americans were not equal. Just because somewhere along the lines the flag was distorted into a cultural symbol used by some country musicians and plastered on bikinis and other nonsense – that doesn’t change what the flag actually represents. 


And I’m sick and tired of hearing this argument, “Well, my ancestors fought for the South and they didn’t own slaves.” Who cares? Not every solider who fought for Nazi Germany killed Jews, or even hated them – heck they might not have even been bad people – but the fact is they fought for Nazi Germany. History will forever view them as part of one of the most horrific events in human history.

The fact of the matter is, the Confederacy was formed in opposition to the government that was elected through the process created by our Constitution. Those states then attacked a U.S. military installation and declared war on the United States. In other words, they committed treason.

Let me put it like this: What would all of you Confederate flag supporters think if 13 liberal states seceded from the United States over an issue with which you disagree… then one of them eventually opening fire and attacking a United States military base? Would you call those people “heroes” for fighting for what they claimed was their states’ rights?

Hell no – you’d call them domestic terrorists and traitors.

But that’s exactly what the Confederacy did. These states didn’t like that our government was pushing to abolish slavery and deny its expansion into Western territories, so they seceded from the Union — then attacked a U.S. military fort.

But as I surf around the Internet, reading the many comments left by those continuing to defend this flag, it’s just amazing how these people seem to think that their opinions about the meaning of the Confederate flag trump the reality of what it represents.

So by all means, continue to throw a hissy fit. Come bash me on Twitter or my Facebook page if you’d like. Trust me, nobody really gives a damn. You’re just gnats buzzing around the rest of us celebrating a moment in our nation’s history when the will of the majority of the American people once again triumphed over the ignorance symbolized by the Confederate flag.

It’s a great day to be an American, and this is the only flag I honor:

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Allen Clifton

Allen Clifton is a native Texan who now lives in the Austin area. He has a degree in Political Science from Sam Houston State University. Allen is a co-founder of Forward Progressives and creator of the popular Right Off A Cliff column and Facebook page. Be sure to follow Allen on Twitter and Facebook, and subscribe to his channel on YouTube as well.

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  • DownriverDem

    For Kid Rock it’s all about the money which means keeping his fans happy so they keep coming to his concerts.

    • QB59

      Fuck Kid Rock…I put him in the same category as Ted Nugent.

      • Joe Griffith

        Yeah…ok. You probably have them both on your MP3 player.

      • QB59

        Your assumptions show your stupidity.

      • John Rogers

        “Where ignorance predominates, vulgarity invariably asserts itself.”

  • fedupva2121

    Bottom line…slavery was once upon a time legal in the entire United States of America. Then it was decided it was wrong, and they changed the laws. So under the stars and stripes it WAS legal, but yet you still honor that flag. So why o why are supporters of the confederate flag not afforded the same. Views can change under the same identifying symbol, but yet ones okay and the other is not. That is hypocrisy at its best. You say the confederate flag is racist because of its original representation and use, look at the American flag. People, thoughts and opinions can change…but you have decided that your point of view is correct. Close minded to not see the real tragedy here, freedoms ripped away on a daily basis to protect the easily offended. Grow a pair America, and hold people accountable for their actions. Not a damn flag!!!!

    • erickoszyk

      Uh, the United States outlawed slavery with the 13th Amendment 150 years ago this December. The CSA was formed to perpetuate slavery forever. Plus they were traitors and started the most violent war in US history. And they lost.

      But thanks for showing that you yourself don’t care about America.

      • fedupva2121

        You’re absolutely right. Banning a piece of cloth is going to magically make every person stop being racist. Life must be grand in f

      • Shadow Diver

        It is a start. At least bigots know that their way of life is outside of the mainstream and that their icons are forbidden on Federal turf.

      • CoolBreeze

        Such a bigoted statement from one that obviously believes they are anything but.

      • baruchzed

        Flying the flag gives tacit permission to those who want to carry forth what the flag represents, racism, slavery, white supremacy. Why would you want to give that message unless you yourself are a racist and a white supremacist?

      • Mr. Brian Batty, O.P.

        I’d rather continue to fly the acceptable one that represents the decimation of native people and their involuntary move to “reserved” land along with an even later attempt at forced assimilation; the one that represents the forced interment of citizens against their will into internment camps because of their ethnicity, the one that represents the only country that not only used the most horrific weapon devised, but on a civilian population. Keep flying the one that doesn’t represent any racism or prejudice. Yeah, nothing wrong with that one until the time you accept someone deciding for you that it’s not.

      • strayaway

        You might consider the role of the First Amendment in this discussion. ” Congress shall make no law …abridging the freedom of speech … or the right of the people peaceably to assemble…” While the news was busy covering the Confederate flag issue, Obama and the Republican establishment snuck by fast tracking the TPP. I’m more worried about what the TPP is going to do to our middle and working classes than about people who put Mexican or Confederate flag decals in their back windows.

      • Jim Ashcraft

        Nobody has banned shit. You’re still perfectly free to own and fly the Southern Cross all you want. They just stopped flying it over a government institution. And as for the companies not selling merchandise featuring the flag anymore, that’s not banning. That’s a company making an inventory decision based on the current society climate. In other words, Capitalism in it’s purest form.

      • fedupva2121

        You missed my point entirely. If the united states supported slavery and then changed their point of view, why can’t confederates do the same. Not every one who supports the flag is racist and the meaning of the flag has “changed” to them. Its okay for one but not the other. I am a patriot and I believe what’s in the past is in the past, and what counts is where we are now. I could really care less about the confederate flag, but demonizing southerners who fly it because they believe it means something else to them? Black soldiers to black entertainers sport that flag, but it’s the epitomy of white hatred for Black’s? A joke. The issue are the people who commit hate crimes, and they are individuals who should be held accountable.

      • Shadow Diver

        That particular flag, was the flag the Klan brought out in 1961. It is associated with the Klan and all Klan like activities.

      • CptNerd

        So was the US flag.

      • Nate Knoll

        Southerners will be shamed by the rest of America until the practice of waving a confederate flag for “heritage” is abandoned by all but the actual racists… and deservedly so.

        You’re American. I’m American. We have a disagreement. Laws were passed in my favor. Why don’t YOU grow a few and just accept that the rest of us Americans have won and want you to stop using that flag for whatever reason.. and be American with us again?

        Views change, yes I understand the point you make in your original post…. but seriously dude… if that’s your stance how the fuck do you not see that views have changed again?

        Here’s a quick time line of that stupid fucking flag you clutch onto so dearly. First formed to fight Americans. Reused by the KKK. Flown in support of segregation laws. Largely forgotten about. Dylann roof slays 9 black people in the name of the confederate flag. Americans pressure business and governmental offices to remove the flags. They comply.

        Views. Have. Changed. Stop living in the past you asshole. I’m seriously sick and tired of you god damn racists by proxy. Go ahead and keep defending the flag of a mass murderer and slavery. I’m done speaking to you idiots I’m just gonna start trashing every fucking confederate flag I see.

      • noah vail

        “I’m just gonna start trashing every fucking confederate flag I see”……i’m with you on that one

      • Pete Woodard

        Come , try to take mine ,OBAMA translation, one bad ass mistake ass hole . Suicide by trying .

      • Joe Griffith

        Trash mine big boy and see what the he’ll you get!!!!!!!!

      • John Rogers

        “Where ignorance predominates, vulgarity invariably asserts itself.”

      • strayaway

        “us Americans have won and want you to stop using that flag for whatever reason.. and be American with us again”

        I’ve seen Union Jacks flying over Fort Michilimackinaw, a Spanish flag flying over the the Castillo de San Marco in St. Augustine. Mexican flags decals are proudly displayed on some Mexican-American’s cars and Mexican flags are flown at Democratic venues like when Hillary gives speeches at LaRaza events. This is all protected by the 1st Amendment. These are the flags of defeated former enemies but protected by the 1st Amendment. Yet the dead in confederate cemeteries are not afforded the same 1st Amendment right by modern day prigs.

      • Eric McCann

        The key is in your own statement. *Changed the point of view.* Meanwhile, the southern states, under that same banner, pushed to continue the slavery of others. Even after the war, the repression of blacks continued *often under that same banner.* It is the flag of a would-be nation built on the whipped backs of slaves and slavery. Is it something to remember? Sure. And to be shown… in a museum. Not “Flying proud.” Symbols are important – and this is one that was long past due to be taken down.

      • Matthew Johnson

        It would be like a German deciding to fly a Nazi flag saying, “I like the buddhist meaning behind the swastika.” Sorry, that excuse is asinine. Sometimes the stains in a flag are so bad they just don’t come out.

      • CptNerd

        Go tell the millions of Buddhists that they can’t use the symbol because of the Nazis.

      • Matthew Johnson

        In Germany it is illegal. Furthermore that analogy does not hold with regard to the Confederate flag. The swastika preceded Nazism. The unlike the swastikas, the confederate flag was created by racists and is carried by their descendants.

      • CptNerd

        No one is, “yet.”

      • CoolBreeze

        That is one story.

    • Frank LaDonna

      To the victor goes the spoils …….. stars and stripes forever. Go win a civil war then get back to me……………

      • Kevin Kimmett

        Dude that is such a stupid comment I wish you were on the other side

      • Frank LaDonna

        And which side are you on. You do know that the stars and stripes is the American flag.

      • noah vail

        but it’s still a stupid comment

      • Frank LaDonna

        Thanks

      • Kevin Kimmett

        i think the flags and statues and other artifacts should remain they are a part of the countries growth and heritage. the citizens of the us should be able to appreciate where this country came from and the roads it traveled to get here. embrace our culture and what it took to get here honor our present day citizens as well as the later-day peoples for their sacrifice and determination for without that we may still live in those dark days so enough with all the bickering lets remember the past, honor it lest we slip back into those dark day

      • noah vail

        then i think that all black people should put pictures of beatings and lynchings on all the public places in the south…it’s part of their heritage and history…the only heritage that flag represents is EVIL in it’s most base form…it’s a symbol of hatred and you should be ashamed to be seen any where close to it

      • Kevin Kimmett

        What about all the Irish slaves that history tells us were treated worse ,all across the country so all statues of southern dignitaries such as Jefferson Davis, Stonewall Jackson etc. no historical significance ? Not only is it apart of the Confederate States of America it is a significant piece of history of These United Satates of America as well as the flag the southern states followed .
        This is all pieces of Americana this countries historyj none of it is to be forgotten no quite to the contrary it all should be remberd studied lest someday we forget and heaven help us it should happen again !

    • baruchzed

      Why would you insist on flying a flag that represents oppression to your neighbors? I call that selfishness. The real tragedy is the secret racism that people, like you, refuse to address.

      • MelodySDavies
      • Ray

        What if my neighbor was a Native American? Would he be offended by my display of the American Flag? Remember his ancestors saw this flag at the head of a column of cavalry heading in the direction of their village, the aftermath of which was not very pretty.

      • CoolBreeze

        It will never be addressed. Just like every other problem the human species has ever put behind them, it will only go away when it has been overcome. And, no one can overcome an obstacle or challenge except the one faced with it.

    • Beth Conrad

      Never again can Republicans claim to be the party of Lincoln and I think that’s great!!

      • QB59

        IKR? He must be spinning in his grave about now!

    • Ellen Backke

      Supporters of the confederate flag and what it represents are no being denied the right to display it. But it does not belong on government buildings.

    • hbnnny

      Not only that, but people conveniently forget that 4 slave-holding states remained in the union. 5 if you include West Virginia which illegally seceded from Virginia. They also forget that Lincoln was willing to enshrine slavery in the US constitution in order to keep the southern states in the union.

      I think it’s fitting that the states are removing the flag from their capitols given the circumstances under which they were raised. But if people want to be hysterical over this flag, because of racism, there are many others they should consider banning as well.

      • Kevin Kimmett

        i think the flags and statues and other artifacts should remain they are a part of the countries growth and heritage. the citizens of the us should be able to appreciate where this country came from and the roads it traveled to get here. embrace our culture and what it took to get here honor our present day citizens as well as the later-day peoples for their sacrifice and determination for without that we may still live in those dark days so enough with all the bickering lets remember the past, honor it lest we slip back into those dark days.

    • noah vail

      taking that rag down is holding the south accountable for their racism and traitorous acts against the REAL AMERICA…you know, those of us who support and honor ALL of the constitution not just the second amendment and their perverted version of the first amendment

    • John Rogers

      Very well said! Couldn’t agree more! Right Arm! Welcome to the United States of the offended.

  • fedupva2121

    I could care less about the rebel flag, don’t own one and don’t tend to but my issue is the constant banning of this or that, constantly interfering with peoples choices. Do we ban doo rags because they promote gang violence. Everybody has a choice to be racist, to not be racist, banning a flag will not cure hate. What has all this hubabaloo gotten us. More division, and no one sees that. George Jefferson can call us honky all day long but the duke boys are banned without a single negative word? Exactly.

    • QB59

      Get a damn clue. You can fly that POS rag anywhere on your private property, hang it on the back of your truck, tattoo it on your ass, whatever. The point is it cannot be flown over government property that is paid for with taxpayer money in that state which includes black taxpayers. No one banned it from private property. In fact I encourage those who want to fly that damn rag to do so…it makes it easier to identify the idiot wingnuts.

      • Joe Griffith

        I have a clue. I’m sick and tired of losing our rights in this country, which I proudly served under the Stars and Stripes. My heritage will not be denied because I will not let it. You refer to it as a POS rag. Think again. It represents people in this country who had a BACKBONE and stood up for their rights against oppression. Much unlike what is happening today. I served so people in this country can freely exercise there freedoms, just like every member of my family has done since the inception of this country. Yes, members of my family fought each other during The War Between the States, but they were respected for standing up for what they believed in. Can your family say the same?

      • QB59

        Thanks for proving my point. Keep flying that treasonous POS rag, wear it on your shirt, get a tattoo, so the rest of us can all identify you as the idiot you are so proud to be. And my family past and present would agree with me.

  • Laurel

    Many of the questions people have in the Facebook comment section were answered in a group of personal blog entries written by a professor of southern history. The professor balances out reasons behind the heritage arguments, lost cause thoughts, treason aspects, along with the political party arguments which seem to appear in practically every disagreement of opinion today.

    https://lablouisianaboy.wordpress.com/2015/06/23/3544/

    https://lablouisianaboy.wordpress.com/2015/06/23/rush-and-the-confederate-flag-furor/

    https://lablouisianaboy.wordpress.com/2015/06/28/a-definitive-well-not-for-most-or-even-me-confederate-flag-debate-narrative/

    I no longer have a FB page, so I am commenting in this section. Laurie

  • Well… I care. I care about the toxic ignorance you transfer. I care about the insentient pride you prosecute. I care about your destructive defense of bigotry and easy hatred. I care about your lack of historical knowledge. I care about your celebration of these things as virtues where they are the exact opposite of that. I care that you propound a discredited past at the expense of an efficacious future. I care that you steer people so wrong so bluntly and boldly. I care that you are seen as a hero by persons you so gleefully mislead…

    • Tom

      Do you care about facts? this flag was designed in late 1865 the very end of the war. Also it
      wasn’t then or ever the Confederate national flag that’s just what the
      ignorant believe. If you really want to hate a flag that stands for
      suppressing blacks you might want to look at the Democrat party flag,
      that flag stood against civil rights and suppressed blacks from 1828
      until the late 1960s.
      Also don’t be so hard on your fellow Americans from down south keep in mind my fellow Northerners are the ones who
      transported the slaves over on their ships and got rich off their labor.
      oh I know they worked southern farms but that was just to supply raw
      material that got shipped north. You see History real history isn’t
      quite so cut and dry the north was just as guilty as the south in the
      business of slaves.
      If you want to be truly honest then its the
      American flag you will need to hate after all it flew the longest over a
      slave nation. You see that’s History!

    • anonymousbro

      lehmberg? so you’re a jew and a white supremacist? that’s new.

  • Jim Randolph

    Look, the Emancipation Proclamation clearly stated that if any state returned to the union, they could keep their slaves. How many states returned to the Union? Ummm, Zero. I offer that as proof that the issue of slavery was not the reason for succession.

    • noah vail

      i’m sure, as a well educated southerner, you really meant to say “secession”…correct?

  • Manuel Nelson

    It’s down, you lost, go away!

    • strayaway

      Using the same criteria, how do you feel about Mexican flags on car windows and LaRaza rallies in the US? Or what about Union Jacks flying over former British forts in the US? If a Confederate flag can’t be flown over a Civil War battleground or Confederate graveyard, why are the rules different for Spanish and British flags?

      • Manuel Nelson

        None of the aforementioned are associated with hate but just for the record, I love the Red, White and Blue 1st and foremost.

      • strayaway

        Hate is in the eye of the beholder. I wouldn’t be caught dead with a Confederate flag. It isn’t part of my heritage. But I’ll let other decide for themselves how they want to decorate their pick-ups. Governments also have the right to fly or remove flags but taking historical flags down at battlefields and cemeteries seems silly. What next, chiseling crosses off of grave makers at military cemeteries?

    • RG

      It will never go away wimp.

      • Manuel Nelson

        As I said it’s down, still down and that’s Mr. WIMP to you!

  • Craig Long

    There was a War and the confederate flag represented an opposition to Justice For All. To show it any honor or honor those who would fight against Civil Rights is more of a dishonor to those who fought under the American Flag for Freedom and Justice For All!

    • Tom

      Slavery was legal for 85 years under the American flag, it was only legal 1 year under the flag your all crying about so who is the racist?

  • Amerikanisch

    The problem happens when people ASSUME you don’t like Obama because of his race, which is usually NOT the case but liberals just LOVE to make that assumption. I did not like Carter either but at least no one accused me of being racist over it.

    • QB59

      Carter isn’t black so why would anyone accuse you of being racist for not liking him as a president? You win for dumbest statement of the week.

      • Amerikanisch

        Talk about DUMB. You don ‘t get it, but that’s okay, Sparky. We like you anyway.

      • Sherri Brahm Totman

        I think you actually win that prize

      • Kevin Kimmett

        hint: the dude making the statement is a person of color. i think you have taken his prize from him you are now asshat of the week!

  • Erick Holmes

    The South refuses to admit that they are not stuck in pre-1861 America. Really sad. And being they seceded from the country, then fired on Ft Sumter, they are damn traitors. Any southerner who is brave enough to say that he’s proud of his family’s heritage, go to hell. I have no respect for you whatsoever. And its wwwaaayyy past time to get it into your head that you lost, and it was a pathetic lousy cause.

    • Tom

      America was born of traitors ask any Englishman

      • Amerikanisch

        Yeah. It all depends in your perspective. One man’s terrorist is another’s freedom fighter. That bring said, I have no problem with the stars and bars being flown only on private property.

    • Joe Griffith

      You are insignificant Erick. Does your family have a heritage? I doubt it. It sounds like to me you don’t know how to stand for something you believe in. By the way, no one cares whether you respect us or not!

    • Ranger

      There is a big difference in being stuck in pre-1861 and honoring our ancestors. Yes, we seceded because, unlike you, we think people should be free, not stuck in a Union that was bleeding them dry financially and passing laws that hurt them more than helped. The Union is not a Roach Motel, where you can check but never check out. If you don’t understand this, Google Roach Motel. Yes, we fired on Ft Sumter because it belonged to the CSA. Once SC seceded, the Fort was southern property. The Union forces were asked to leave and given time to do so. When they didn’t leave, and Lincoln started to reinforce the fort (and act of invasion and war), we fired on Ft Sumter. Through the fight, no one was hurt and the only injury was during the closing ceremony when the Union forces closed it. Of course you have no respect for anything you don’t understand. Bigotry and hatred does that to people. Lincoln, by his act at Fort Sumter, proved his plans to invade the South.

  • Tom

    Do some actual fact checking, the “Confederate flag” everyone has their panties bunched up about was designed in 1865 it never actually flew over any civil war battles and never was the symbol for suppressing anyone. The original confederate flag came out in 1861 but that’s not the flag your all crying about However the people who served under the symbol of a Jackass actively suppressed blacks in America from 1828 until the late 1960s so should we demand Democrats no longer use the Jackass symbol?

  • Joe Griffith

    Who the hell are you Allen Clifton?! It doesn’t matter to me what the hell you think dumbass! If I want to support my heritage, then I should have every right to do so. And you, as an American should support my right to do so. Let’s keep equality in mind. Besides, the real racists here are the NAACP and the NAN. What gives them the right to demand what flag an entertainer displays at his or her show?! You are a complete moron, and what’s wrong with America. I am not racist. But don’t deny my rights and heritage either. I didn’t serve my country to be pressured by butt hurt idiots. If I can’t fly the flag of my choosing, then neither can anyone else! And before you go popping off again, no I am not a racist nor a bigot. BTW…get your facts straight. The KKK originally rode under the Union flag, which was the flag that flew over slavery in this country first. How dare you to compare the South to Nazi Germany. In fact, you support an administration that has tried unsuccessfully to use the same tactics as Hitler did with socialized medicine and unarming it’s citizens. You’re looking pathetic right now…shame on you! Go let Billary make your life better somewhere other than here.

    • crazyredhead

      Hooray for you Joe. Said it so well. And just to correct EVERYONE the KKK was formed to protect Southerners against Yankee carpetbaggers who came to take everything that was left after Sherman’s march through Georgie. And yes I am a History major with an MA and I fly a Southern flag proudly on my home. Along with the Gadsden flag which is a Revolutionary War flag but was banned along with the rest. The First Amendment is still in the Constitution and we are all free to express ourselves, even with a flag. As for some of you – using four letter words and foul language is just a sign of poor education, northern or southern.

    • Peter Duffield

      Well said!

  • Peter Duffield

    For those claiming that banning this flag from Government property ( which I completely agree with ) will not lead to any other restrictions. Well, well, well.
    Salon, a Liberal Beehive, is petitioning to make any public display of this flag a ” Hate Crime “.

    http://www.thefederalistpapers.org/us/halfwits-at-salon-want-to-make-the-confederate-flag-a-hate-crime-they-need-to-check-their-own-backyard

    How much does anyone want to bet that the 4 Marines just murdered by a Muslim in Chattanooga will not be considered a terrorist attack or even a hate crime?
    That’s fine. Enjoy the liberal hypocrisy while it lasts.