Bernie Sanders Nails Republican Lies About Voter ID Laws After Release Of GAO Report

bernie-sanders-3Something most liberals have known all along has basically been confirmed in a new report by the Government Accountability Office (GAO). The report shows new voter ID laws that have been passed in a number of Republican-controlled states are making it more difficult for Americans to vote. Specifically those Americans who tend to vote for Democrats.


I know, you’re shocked.

Here’s part of the statement released by Senator Bernie Sanders’ office:

State laws that make voters show IDs at polling places have put a price on ballot access and eroded turnout – especially among African Americans, young people and recently-registered voters – a non-partisan congressional watchdog concluded.

The Government Accountability Office report also found scant evidence of voter fraud that the new laws that ostensibly are designed to discourage.

The report was requested by Sens. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), Patrick Leahy (D-Vt.), Richard Durbin (D-Ill.), Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.) and Bill Nelson (D-Fla.). The senators asked the research arm of Congress to investigate what they called an “alarming number” of new state laws that make it “significantly harder” for millions of voters to cast ballots.

The report calculated the direct cost to would-be voters in the 17 states where voters must present a driver’s license or other state identification at polling places. The price for driver’s licenses ranges from $14.50 in Indiana to $58.50 in Rhode Island. The cost of getting a birth certificate needed to obtain a non-driver ID ranges from $7 in North Dakota to $25 in Georgia.

Focusing on two states with strict ID laws, Kansas and Tennessee, the GAO found greater falloffs in voter turnout in those states than in states without restrictive voting laws. The 2012 general election turnout compared to 2008 was as much as 3.2 percent less in Kansas and 2.2 percent less in Tennessee than in other states. The falloff was greatest among African-Americans, young people and newly-registered voters, the GAO said.

I highlighted the last two paragraphs because they’re particularly important. Republicans have seemingly found a way around illegal poll taxes by simply requiring people pay to have an ID before they’re allowed to vote. So, in reality, it’s just a roundabout way to levy a poll tax – without directly charging a poll tax.


Not only that, but these laws are lowering voter turnout. And like I’ve said beforeanyone who’s trying to make it harder for Americans to vote clearly has some kind of unethical ulterior motives. Especially when this study concluded that the people most adversely effected by these laws were African Americans, young people and newly registered voters. Otherwise known as voters who tend to vote for Democrats more than Republicans.

Again, I know you’re completely shocked. Republican legislatures passing strict voter ID laws that just happen to lower the voter turnout among demographics who vote for Democrats – no way! 

And, as most of you might expect, the Supreme Court keeps upholding these unconstitutional laws. But that’s what happens when the court is controlled by conservative justices.

This has to stop, because history is just repeating itself. Decades ago poll taxes were used to try to discourage people from voting (specifically African Americans). Now these “poll taxes” are being disguised under the pretense of “combating voter fraud” by requiring Americans to present an ID before they can vote. An ID that the vast majority of Americans would have to pay for in order to obtain.

So, if Americans can’t be forced to pay in order to exercise their right to vote, but an ID costs money, how is that not requiring Americans to pay a fee before they can vote?

I can’t emphasize this enough, liberals must get out to vote this November. I don’t care what hoops they try to make you jump through – vote. We cannot continue to allow Republicans to violate our Constitutional rights and rig our election process. Because if we don’t get out to vote, we’re just handing this country right over to them. And we damn sure can’t let that happen.



Allen Clifton

Allen Clifton is a native Texan who now lives in the Austin area. He has a degree in Political Science from Sam Houston State University. Allen is a co-founder of Forward Progressives and creator of the popular Right Off A Cliff column and Facebook page. Be sure to follow Allen on Twitter and Facebook, and subscribe to his channel on YouTube as well.

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  • BobLoblaw

    I found it odd this article mentions Kansas has strict ID laws. When I moved here I waited to change my driver’s license and there was a vote coming up. I got online to see what I had to do to prove my residency so I could vote.

    I filled out a very short form (online) and 4 days later my registration card appeared in the mail. And I continue to get mail in ballots for local elections. It could not be easier.

    My point is if Kansas is listed as such a strict state then it must be a breeze in other states. Get out and vote!!!

    • Jim Bean

      Begs the question, ‘If you can’t execute a simple administrative procedure in order to qualify to vote, should you be allowed to be in a position to decide who be handling the nations mountain of problems?’

      • Jake Kortes

        Interesting. Voting is a right of every citizen. Putting a stipulation like that is the same as earlier restrictive voting practices such as being able to read, or passing a set test to prove worthy to vote. It is a right of every citizen and can be used and abused as such, either by not voting or writing in Superman on the ballot every time you do vote or knowing the people on the ballot and making an informed choice.

      • Corey

        Interesting do you feel the same about every citizens 2nd amendment rights?

      • Mo Reno

        “SQUIRREL!”

      • Sieben Stern

        haha. when I abuse my right to vote by writing in superman, no one dies. go fig.

      • Nemisis

        In my county we often have only GOP candidates.
        Due to the size of my county the people are often known and how they have conducted themselves.
        It is amazing how many people get (re)-elected here, with the populace knowing they will be screwed again just because the person they vote for is a member of their congregation.

      • LMB

        But as long as you live in America and walk upright you can have a gun right? No regulation needed there right?

      • Jim Bean

        Interesting question. Guns are pretty simple instruments. Knowing what you can’t shoot with them isn’t rocket science, either. I wouldn’t say no regulation is needed but it certainly takes a more robust knowledge base to cast a wise vote. (See ‘Obama’ for case in point.)

      • LMB

        You’re right any idiot with a finger can pull the trigger of a gun. And if the average idiot understands not to shoot a person, then your pal Dick Cheney must be a full on retard since he shot his friend in the face with a gun (no offense to the mentally disabled people for comparing them to Cheney). So yes, let’s take all regulations away and make sure we hand out guns to all patients being discharged from mental hospitals and criminals as they walk out of jail.

        I can’t even discuss Obama with you, because it doesn’t matter how many facts I provide you showing that the economy is growing, unemployment is dropping, the deficit is shrinking, equality is growing (gay marriage rights) and more people have healthcare you’ll just put your fingers in your ears and scream, “LA LA LA I can’t hear you!” He is not perfect, but he is doing his job effectively.

      • terribletwos

        It seems Jim Bean is “full metal jacket” in the head.

      • Nemisis

        Sure is convenient for Obama that the economy just happens to get better and jobs happen to produce themselves in a better economy. (It’s the direct result of trimming the Bushes)

        I think he could be doing a better job if all of congress would be working towards rebuilding.

      • Nemisis

        Florida has a “no noose law” A law that makes it a crime to make or posses a noose. Yet many elections are won or lost based on hanging chad.

        (okay that is just a joke folks)

        Anyway my point is that guns are off topic here and most election fraud begins and ends with the election officials.

      • Ben Stevens

        You’re an idiot, Jim, if you think you’re statement doesn’t scream, “I am a republican racist and I fear the black vote!” These voters have already Done everything the constitution requires, but you think continuing to place additional hurdles between them and their right to vote will eliminate enough Africans, who may vote democratic, from being able to cast their votes, will win the election for the GOP. You are a fool. The rich 1% have already cut you out of their inner circle. Any notion you cling to that they will appreciate your loyalty and invite you in, is purely delusional. If you were one of the ‘chosen entitled’, you wouldn’t fucking be here, in this forum, you moron. Just sayin’.

      • Jim Bean

        I sense underlying anger and frustration.

      • Nemisis

        That does not make it right to disenfranchise a voter base.

    • LMB

      Each person is different. Some people are able to just fill out a form while others are having to go to extremes and spends lots of money to get the forms they need to buy their ID in order to vote. Look this up. You will come across many cases where this is true. You should not have to pay to vote.

  • Jerry Graybosch

    The additional security from ID’s is minimal. The type of fraud they prevent ( voter impersonation ) is so rare it’s not worth the cost and inconvenience while other forms of fraud and supression go unchallenged. What we need are national minimum standards for registration and holding elections. They should mandate equal access to polling places and voting stations, standard early and absentee voting procedures, weekend election day, and an independently auditable vote counting system.

    I would even support a mandatory voting system with the tax penalties for not voting going to fund civics education. Those who need to defend their right not to choose a candidate would simply vote “present”.

    • jasonsmartin

      In my opinion absentee ballots are the biggest source of vote fraud. There are many old folks in nursing homes voting exactly the way their children want without ever knowing it

      • ethelthe

        Is that opinion based on actual fact ? You may be absolutely right, but facts are always a nice thing to have.

      • jasonsmartin

        If I knew it for a fact that absentee ballots were the biggest source of voter fraud I would have said so. What I clearly said was that is was my opinion.

      • ethelthe

        Actually you did, when I replied your first post wasn’t showing. Had I seen your first post I would not have asked the question – Sorry !

      • Steve Brains

        Thank GODDESS that no REDS are out tonight, they would pissing in tea cups and calling it beer over that.

        Democrats are such a much more polite and civilized creature.

      • That’s funny. I thought Democrats was plural and creature was singular. How does that work?

      • Steve Brains

        Remedial reading !o! for you.Take the class, figure out the grammar.

      • Steve Brains, you’re quite the moron. I obviously had already figured out the grammar. That is how I was able to point out your moronic switching from plural to singular.

      • Steve Brains

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      • Steve Brains

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      • You’re quite pathetically and thoroughly childish.

      • Steve Brains

        Bzzzzz

      • Apparently, you entertain yourself with this drivel. That’s not surprising. After all, you’re a moron.

      • Steve Brains

        Speak for yourself. you have 3 and 4 copies ofthe same post. and not one word belongs in this blog.

        ALLEN, this is a bot created by a Goober fart. Check the IP addy and delete tit if I am right.

      • Baloney. Refuting someone who posted something on this blog definitely belongs on this blog.

        The reason why I have 3 and 4 copies of the same post is because I was repeatedly responding to your repeated post. And, actually, you’re wrong. This blog won’t allow me to post 3 and 4 copies of the same post.

        You’re quite the moron.

      • Steve Brains

        Bzzz

      • Like I said, that’s baloney. Refuting someone who posted something on this blog definitely belongs on this blog.

        The
        reason why I have 3 and 4 copies of the same post is because I was
        repeatedly responding to your repeated post. And, actually, you’re
        wrong. This blog won’t allow me to post 3 and 4 copies of the same post.

        You’re quite the moron.

      • Steve Brains

        Ditto & Ibid.

      • You’re obviously learning disabled. You haven’t got a clue as to what “Ibid.” means.

      • Steve Brains

        Ditto again.

      • I’m glad to see that you agree that you are learning disabled and you haven’t got a clue as to what “Ibid.” means. That’s a start. Now, go see a specialist.

      • Steve Brains

        Ibid..

      • What is the object of your ibid.?

      • Steve Brains

        Look it up

      • You can’t look up the object of someone else’s ibid.

      • Steve Brains

        Sure you can. IT’S RIGHT THERE ON THE PREVIOUS PAGE.

      • You’ve just proven that you are a moron.

      • Steve Brains

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      • You’re quite the moron. If 0>u, then uu>0, not 0>uu.

      • Steve Brains

        0>uuuuu

      • Yes, you’ve cemented this fact, you’re quite pathetically and thoroughly childish.

      • Steve Brains

        Guess again C*ntmouth.

        cement

        [si-ment] Spell Syllables

        Synonyms

        Examples

        Word Origin

        noun

        1.

        any of various calcined mixtures of clay and limestone, usually mixedwith water and sand, gravel, etc., to form concrete, that are used asa building material.

        2.

        any of various soft, sticky substances that dry hard or stonelike, usedespecially for mending broken objects or for making things adhere.

        3.

        Petrography. the compact groundmass surrounding and bindingtogether the fragments of clastic rocks.

        4.

        anything that binds or unites:

        Time is the cement of friendship.

        5.

        Dentistry.

        a hardening, adhesive, plastic substance, used in the repair ofteeth for anchoring fillings or inlays, for filling, or for fasteningcrowns.

        Informal. cementum.verb (used with object)

        6.

        to unite by or as if by cement:

        to cement stones to form a wall; to cement a relationship.

        7.

        to coat or cover with cement:

        to cement a floor.verb (used without object)

        8.

        to become cemented; join together or unite; cohere.

      • You’re quite silly. I was obviously using the term cement in a metaphorical way. You apparently missed the metaphor.

      • Steve Brains

        Figured you would be a se men* junkie.

        There WAS and IS none.

      • Boy, you really are a total failure. This time, you’ve shown yourself to be illiterate.

      • Steve Brains

        Then HOWare you managing to reply to what you claim I am incapable of writing coherently?

      • You really are quite the moron. My replies are by way of pointing out your incoherence.

      • Steve Brains

        Which definition would THAT be?

      • Asking idiotic questions does not improve your lot.

      • Steve Brains

        So you don’t know, you are typing to fill space in your empty shell of a life.

      • mosquito

        You’re full of crap. My life is quite rich.

      • mosquito

        You’re quite a moron. You say “So you don’t know” and then you tell me. My God, you don’t have a functioning brain.

      • You’re a pathetic individual. You are obviously fixated with sexual imagery, like a child obsessed with using dirty language.

      • Steve Brains

        lemme Fuc* that for you.

      • You’re quite prurient. Do see a specialist.

      • Steve Brains

        Are you fingers dyslexic? Or just glued together with peckerdrool?

      • You wrote: “Are you fingers dyslexic?”. You really are quite the moron. You have not put up a single post which I have not been able to refute by detecting some moronic content.

      • Steve Brains

        Why is your birthplace DIRTY?

      • Asking moronic questions doesn’t improve your lot.

      • Steve Brains

        A little Google helps the medicine go down… hehehe

        Just try “actual voter fraud, absentee”

      • Dawn

        Before my mother’s death she was in a nursing home and she had a filled out ballot and I read it and it was straight line republican. I read the ballot to her and told her who the candidates were(as she lost her ability to read when she had a massive stroke)When I told her that each person who was marked was a republican she said no way. She said I haven’t ever, in my life, voted for a republican. I showed her the ballot and she took it from my hands and ripped it up. A republican group had come into the nursing home and did this.

      • jasonsmartin

        That doesn’t surprise me a bit, I would venture to guess that there are plenty of elderly people living with their children who also vote without knowing it.

      • Jerry Graybosch

        I would question nursing homes about their procedures for safeguarding the voting process before putting someone there. With what you have described, the home could be guilty of aiding and abetting vote fraud. They should be very concerned about it.

      • Steve Brains

        But in order to collect ballots, you have to have Election Commission credentials.

      • Isn’t homes plural and there singular?

      • cravin moorehead

        Oh, Mr. scold!

        Glass houses.

        Look up the FIRST word in your sentence.

        That would be, “Is not homes plural…..”

        Oops! LOL I love it.

      • mosquito

        As I pointed out, scold is not a noun.

        You’re obviously a moron. The first word in my sentence is correct. The sentence is referring to the word homes. So, “Is” is correct.

        So, it appears that the egg is on your face, not mine, moron.

        And, by the way, “the FIRST word in” my sentence would not be, as you say, “Is not homes plural”. That would be the first four words in my sentence, moron.

      • cravin moorehead

        You , sir, are an intellectual phoney…..as well as a scold.

        Look it up, moron.

      • No, you are the phoney, moron. Archaic words are no longer part of the English language. So, as I said, scold is not a noun, obviously talking about the English language as it presently stands.

      • Even if the word scold is a noun, which it is not, your use of it is moronic.

        noun
        USarchaic
        noun: scold; plural noun: scolds
        1.
        a woman who nags or grumbles constantly.

      • Your profile demonstrates what a moron you are.

      • Avatar

        Your profile implies that you’re one of most moronic commenters around!!!!!!

      • mosquito

        Your logic is atrocious. My profile has no such implication. Yet, you moronically assert that it does. Give it up. You haven’t got a clue about logic.

      • mosquito

        Why are you so bent upon proving what a moron you are? Your logic is atrocious. Your premise does not imply your conclusion. Give it up. You have not got a clue about logic.

      • regressive teaparty trash

        GUEST is back as john McCarthy– look up his MSU nude runaround in college as a teacher on oct 1 2012
        ======================================
        he is priceless

      • Avatar

        Bad-English=moron! You’re douchebag, mosquito.

      • mosquito

        You’re quite a moron. You’ve raised a straw man here. Raising straw men is one of the most basic of logical errors. I had already demonstrated that the person in question was a moron and was, on that basis, calling him a moron. Your moronically assuming, with no basis, that I was calling him a moron because of his Bad – English.

      • regressive teaparty trash

        is that you— “guest”– the FAMOUS Michigan state university math ‘professor’ who went crazy in class –on oct 1 2012– an then ran around in school and was handcuffed and arrested and led away to a hospital for ” observation” because he is insane and totally unhappy being such an eminently intelligent logician? that JOHN MCCARTHY?? the one who now cannot be called mosquito as his loser overweigh ass has been thrown off the site(s) for his warm affable character???

      • Stephen Duff

        Scold (noun): a woman who nags or grumbles constantly. Of course the only reason I’m really commenting is tell you people that get on every message board & start insulting each other over the correct use of the English language need to shut up & stay on topic. Also, I learned a long time ago when someone is having an argument or discussion with someone & they start correcting the way the other person speaks or types, that means they are usually losing the argument & they figure the only way to win the argument at that point is to try & make the other person look stupid or at least not as smart as them.

      • cravin moorehead

        The word “is” is singular, you phoney. “It is” and “they are.” Got it, scold?

        Further communication with you would be pointless, as you find joy in pointing out meaningless minutia.

        You need to get an actual life.

        Meanwhile…..go fuck yourself. Gosh, I hope you can understand that.

      • I know quite well that “is” is singular. That is why it is correct. After all, we are talking about the word homes, not the words homes. After all, there is no such thing as the words homes. Again, the egg is on your face, not mine.

      • ribbie149

        “there is no such thing as the words homes.” Are you out of your mind? That was a rhetorical question , BTW. So the sentence “Their homes were consumed by wildfires” is incorrect?

      • What I point out is not meaningless, nor is it minutia.

        Only a moron, who has no appreciation for the beauty of the English language, could give such an evaluation of my corrrection of your stupidity.

        You’re very big on making bald, unsubstantiated assertions. Since you do that, you are obviously not intelligent enough to know that doing that is a complete waste of time for everyone reading these assertions, including yourself. All such assertions are illegitimate and ruled out of any intelligent conversation. Why is that? Because, if we allow people to make such assertions, then anyone can assert anything, which inevitably leads to moronic conversations, the kind of conversations you like.

      • regressive teaparty trash

        john McCarthy———— are U sitting there as NUDE and deranged writing these as U were when U went on a nude psychotic rant on oct 1 2012 while teaching at MICHIGAN STATE UNIVERSITY and were subsequently subdued and handcuffed ( see: arrested) by the POLICE?

        with winter coming U might want2 wear some new socks– we loved your photo in the hallway– shall I place it up?? U look sooooooo cute warming that cold tile floor with your ” bottom”

      • Avatar

        Believe me, if you read mosquito’s comment history, this commenter literally throw ‘moron’ on anyone this commenter doesn’t like.

      • ALV

        And your mouth contains nothing but poo. Your mother should be so proud.

      • regressive teaparty trash

        check sarah palins speaking syntax,,,,,,,,get back 2 us w that

      • ribbie149

        So what, moron? Subject and verb are in agreement and the word is “their”, MENSA.

      • Steve Brains

        They did it to THOUSANDS of people all over the country. And they NEVER get prosecuted, jailed or even on the RIGHT BIAS MEDIA.

      • Austin

        The “right bias media”? Haha

      • Steve Brains

        90% of all broadcast media are right wing owned, operated and have right wing agendas determining their content.

      • Nemisis

        Good morning to all.

        Nothing here is meant to slam you Dawn.

        I see all to often that our elders are at the top of the list for targeting by scams. They are easily confused because they need to rely on others. The more they rely the easier it is.

        It is our job as descendants and a caring people to ensure that they do not become victims. Voter fraud is the least of the concerns here but certainly not a infrequent occurrence.

        We as a people need to show more concern for our elders if not for them, bank some karma. Which may negate the karma earned do to selfish reasoning… but the point is the same.

        Take a few elders to register, take them to vote, when that is not possible, make sure they know what their ballot says.

      • You wrote “I see all to often”. Is that like “I see head to toe”?

      • Nemisis

        No.

      • Wrong, it is most definitely like “I see head to toe”.

      • Nemisis

        Nope.

      • mosquito

        Wrong, it is most definitely like “I see head to toe”. A grade schooler could see the validity of this comparison.

      • Nemisis, you write: “They are easily confused because they need to rely on others. The more they rely the easier it is.” I know what you’re talking about. I rely on others to deliver me my mail. The more they do it, the more confused I get. My God, you’re a moron.

      • Nemisis

        My example is confirmed.

      • Wrong, your example was refuted by my counterexample.

      • Nemisis

        If that is what helps you make through the moment.

      • mosquito

        What a moronic statement. You don’t “make through” something.

      • Nemisis

        Ouch, you got me. An it was left to fend for it’s self. I’m a horrible monster.
        Yet, your still a trollish little monkey.

      • mosquito

        You are truly a moron. Why does your second sentence begin with an “An”? And, why does it end with “for it is self”? My God, you’re a moron.

      • Nemisis

        because it irritates the hell out of you

      • regressive teaparty trash

        wrong- thy counterexample is nugatory; devoid of provable facts
        ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, JOHN MCARTHY nude predator-streaker on MSU campus October 2012

      • regressive teaparty trash

        john McCarthy– psychotic math teacher at Michigan state university who went LOOOOOONY on oct 2012 while teaching
        —————————————————————
        loony john was handcuffed NUDE by police; and logically led away to a hospital
        ====================================
        he loves non bald SUBSTANTIATED facts–

      • David Tuttle

        And the repubs claim the democrats have dead people voting.

      • Why did you switch tenses in the middle of that last sentence?

      • Virginia Liberal

        Now that is more believable than cheating on someone’s ballet that’s in a nursing home. But I sure wouldn’t put it past a Republican!

      • Steve Brains

        A fact would be nice, but you just happen to be right. MOST cases that are manufactured by the Right and Red Crew were of people who MOVED in an election year and registered to vote in their new home town or state. BUT THEY FAILED to UNregister from whence they came.

        The Right/Red Crew lodged complaints which is why 207 investigations in Florida led to THREE trials. It was VOTER FRAUD about VOTER FRAUD.

        Mathematically, there would NEVER be a circumstance where a single vote would change a national election.

        the only way to defraud the public of an honest election was how George Bush did it TWICE.

      • Nemisis

        I am unable to find any instances of someone actually un-registering to vote.

      • Cemetery Girl

        How does someone unregister? I’ve never moved to another state, so when I move I just update my address. (I have not had nearly enough coffee yet.)

      • Nemisis

        I hear yuh, sister…Stewart’s in my cup.

        You don’t, there is no form to un-register. You can change your party affiliation by re-registering. Re-registering is required with each change of address even if it is to a different apartment in the same building such as across the hall.

      • Cemetery Girl

        I have yet to give a party affiliation. While I am liberal (although, progressive is a better fit), I just don’t like the idea of committing to a party, even if it is easy to change

      • Nemisis

        I just wish they would remember who they are supposed to represent while in office.

      • So what? I’m sure that you have access to the registration records.

      • Steve Brains, you obviously don’t know much about mathematics. Mathematically, there would definitely be a circumstance where a single vote would change a national election.

      • Steve Brains

        CAn you describe in DETAIL what that circumstance would be? When you can and you DO…we’ll go from there.

      • No, I cannot describe in detail what “that” circumstance would be, because there is no such thing as “that” circumstance. Here is a possible circumstance. The outcome of the election depends upon who gets the electoral votes from California. The popular vote in California was C for candidate A and C + 1 for candidate B. Hence, the electoral votes for California went to candidate B and, hence, candidate B won the election. Now change one vote. Then the popular vote in California is C + 1 for candidate A and C for candidate B. Hence, the electoral votes for California went to candidate A and, hence, candidate A won the election.

      • Steve Brains

        Well then, if there is no one specific mathematical event you can describe, then you are not qualified to judge ME on Math skills or I AM RIGHT you spineless annoying TWIT.

      • You’re a moron. I don’t need a specific mathematical event. Having several is just fine. I am most definitely qualified to judge you on mathematical skills. I’m a thirty year Professor of Mathematics.

      • Steve Brains

        BZZZZ zzzzzzzzz z z z z z z z z

      • You’re quite infantile, moron.

      • Steve Brains

        bzzzz

      • You just saved me the trouble of proving that you’re a moronic blowhard.

      • Steve Brains

        bbzzzzzz

      • Come on now. Admit it. You’re learning disabled, aren’t you? You did terribly in school, didn’t you? Your reading comprehension is that of a grade school child, isn’t it?

      • Steve Brains

        Bzzzz

      • Come on. Don’t be embarassed. Admit it. You’re learning disabled, aren’t you? You did
        terribly in school, didn’t you? Your reading comprehension is that of a
        grade school child, isn’t it?

      • Steve Brains

        Ibid.

      • Like I said, you’re learning disabled. You have not got a clue as to what “Ibid.” means.

      • Steve Brains

        See last entry.

      • You’re obviously deeply confused about the last entry.

      • Steve Brains

        Look again.

      • There is no need to look again. It’s an established fact that you are deeply confused. You actually think that your thoughts make sense.

      • regressive teaparty trash

        speaking of confused–deeply– we have empirical evidence that JOHN MCCARTHY ( guest poster above) went totally nuts on oct 1 2012 and proved his logical assertive psychosis by running around NUDE after screaming absurdly in the school- in front of students ETC- before being handcuffed by police and led away

      • Steve Brains

        Ibid…

      • You stopped your last post in the middle of it.

      • Steve Brains

        NO pe

      • We’re going to have to get another filing cabinet.

      • Steve Brains

        YOU are!

      • You are truly an intellectual pygmy. That’s not a sentence.

      • regressive teaparty trash

        speaking of “pygmies”…………….. everyone should look at JOHM MCCARTHY’s photo of him at MICHIGAN STATE UNIVERSITY on 0ct 1 2012 as he– the math ‘professor’ has completed his psychotic ”rant and run” of nudity and subsequent handcuffing/ arrest by police—- MICHIGAN STATE University JOHN MCCARTHY going crazy — with pristine logic of COURSE- and the cute photo of his sitting up against the wall with his huge belly used as ballast.

      • Steve Brains

        0>u

      • Yes, indeed, you’re a moronic blowhard.

      • You’re quite the moron, a hopelessly childish intellectual pygmy.

      • Steve Brains

        BZZZZzzzzzzzzz z z z z z z z z’s

      • You’re quite moronically infantile.

      • Steve Brains

        bzzz

      • Like I said, you are quite moronically infantile, Steve Shit-for-brains.

      • Steve Brains

        0>uuuu

      • Since, by your earlier post, 0>u, then uuuu>0, not 0>uuuu.

      • Steve Brains

        0>uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

      • Since, by your earlier post, 0>u, it follows that

        uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu>0,

        not 0>uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu.

      • Steve Brains

        30 years a math teacher an you didn’t show your work. C-

      • You wrote: “30 years a math teacher an you didn’t show your work.” How old are you? In all those years, you haven’t learned how to handle the English language?

        There is no need to show my work. I’m a mathematician. I am able to skip huge numbers of steps.

      • Steve Brains

        IN Annapolis men’s room stall:

        E=MC2

        C- NExt time , show your work!

      • Don’t venture into things of which you have not got a clue.

      • Steve Brains

        Like your real job a the warning poster in the condom tester’s locker room at Durex?

      • You’re quite confused. My real job is Professor of Mathematics in one of the top Mathematics Departments in our country.

      • regressive teaparty trash

        and his name is JOHN MCCARTHY and his HOBBY is acting psychotic while in class and then running around naked on oct 1 2012 and then being arrested/ handcuffed —led way by police
        ========================================
        that’s what I call a logician!

      • Steve Brains

        Then you FAIL the PROOF.

      • That’s quite a moronic statement. One does not fail a proof.

      • Steve Brains

        What grade do you get for a wrong answer on a one question test?
        FAIL!

      • mosquito

        You’re quite a moron. You don’t get any grade on such a test. The teacher gets called in by the supervisor and is told that if he ever pulls such a moronic stunt again he’ll be fired.

      • Steve Brains

        That’s an VERY Effey F

      • regressive teaparty trash

        skipping such normal and socially acceptable steps such as wearing clothing at the school (MSU on oct 2012) which employs your psychotic self,,,,,,,,,U ARE JOHN MCCARTHY

      • I am not a math teacher. I am a Professor of Mathematics. Professors are not teachers. They are professionals in their discipline. It is a common misconception that professors are teachers. Professors don’t teach. They give lectures about their discipline. If a student needs a teacher, then he can hire a tutor to teach him. Tutors teach. Professors don’t teach. At the college level, it is assumed that students have learned how to teach themselves.

      • Steve Brains

        So you can’t even TEACH!!!! ROTFLMAO!!!

      • You’re thoroughly illogical. The fact that I am not a teacher in no way, shape, or form implies that I cannot teach. You have not got a clue about logic.

      • Steve Brains

        If P, then you pants get wet because you forgot to pull then down!

      • You wrote: “you forgot to pull then down”. What the hell does that mean? There you go again with another moronic post.

      • Steve Brains

        Are you wetting your pants AGAIN!!!!!??????

      • There you go again with another moronic post.

      • Avatar

        He’s wetting his pant with too much ‘moron’ in his own profile history.

      • Steve Brains

        That was a pretty useless and time consuming attack. Think it was Big Gooberturd in Drag?

      • Steve Brains

        YOu sure profess. That you don’t understand Physics, that ibid is a mystery to you and that you never read the Constitution as a document.

      • You’ve got nothing. That’s what bald, unsubstantiated assertions amount to, nothing.

      • regressive teaparty trash

        and in your case u smashed parts of your emaciated yet overweight( ???) body on windows and then ran NUDE while “professing” at Michigan state U on oct 1 2012 ———– the LOGICALLY being arrested /handcuffed by police and led away– after being photographed on the hallway floor wearing your mommies cute little socks—JOHN McCARTHY is your name
        THAT; my friends– is DISCIPLINE!!!

      • Steve Brains

        I haven’t seen one yet, and neither has anyone else.

        The trick of the question is simple. Of all the votes cast in an electorial college system, NO DELEGATE is bound by law to follow the electorate. and as NO state has ONLY one Electorial vote, it can NEVER come down to 1 single vote.

      • mosquito

        Steve Brains, I’ve already made the scenario abundantly clear. If you don’t get it, it’s not because I failed to make it clear. It’s because you are a moron.

        What is this “electorial” college system of which you speak? I’ve never heard of such a thing, moron.

      • Steve Brains

        BZZZZzzzzzzzzz z z z z z z z…

      • Steve Brains

        YOu have NEVER read the US Constitution? It is described in detail in the section about Elections.

        WOW!!!! Thanks for BEING the proof that everyone is Buzzing about!!

      • Steve Brains

        From the Constitution, Article II

        Section 1.

        The executive power shall be vested in a President of the United States of America. He shall hold his office during the term of four years, and, together with the Vice President, chosen for the same term, be elected, as follows:

        Each state shall appoint, in such manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a number of electors, equal to the whole number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress: but no Senator or Representative, or person holding an office of trust or profit under the United States, shall be appointed an elector.

        The electors shall meet in their respective states, and vote by ballot for two persons, of whom one at least shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves. And they shall make a list of all the persons voted for, and of the number of votes for each; which list they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the seat of the government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate. The President of the Senate shall, in the presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the certificates, and the votes shall then be counted.

        THAT’s the ‘Electorial College’

      • mosquito

        You’re as thick as a brick. No, that’s not the “Electorial College”. There is no such thing as the “Electorial College”. You’re so enamored of your own thought, you cannot receive correction.

      • mosquito

        You’re a moron. There is no necessity for the delegates to be bound by law. All that is needed for my scenario to be valid is for the delegates to vote the way I have indicated. That is certainly possible. So, your argument is a straw man, one of the most basic of logical errors. It’s not surprising that you would make such an error. After all, you’re a moron.

      • Steve Brains

        BZZZZzzzzzzzzz z z z z z z z

      • Steve Brains

        NO it’s not. BEcause NOT ONE SINGLE POPULAR VOTE COUNTS. EVER. So, there is not one mathematical possibility of ANY presidential election coming down to a SINGLE VOTE.

        The Electors choose the President.

        Now go stick your nose up some eater buffalo’s ass and let the adult’s continue their conversation.

      • mosquito

        You’re a moron. You’re changing the subject. We were not talking about the votes of the delegates to the electoral college. We were talking about the popular vote. So, your observations are totally irrelevant to the issue at hand.

      • Steve Brains

        BZZZZzzzzzzzzz z z z z z z z z

      • Steve Brains

        I did not change the subject. The subject is ‘Presidential Elections for Skittles’.

        I said, “Mathematically, there would NEVER be a circumstance where a single vote would change a national election.” I stand by that BECAUSE the SELECTORIAL COLLEGE chooses the president and NEVER EVER do the people ‘vote’ / ‘elect’ a president.

        When SCOTUS doesn’t VIOLATE the Constitution and FORCE a loser on the citizens AGAINST THEIR WILL. In 2000, SCOTUS installed an Unconstitutional person to the White House. They declared a winner, circumventing the electorial college entirely.

        I normally don’t haze the handicapped or abuse the autistic, but in your case I am going to begin going out of My way to humiliate you to tears.

      • You’ve got nothing, Steve Brains. Bald, unsubstantiated assertions amount to nothing.

        Nonsense, the people always vote and elect a president. That’s why they come out of the voting booth wearing stickers that say “I voted”. This is not just a sham, it’s a reality.

        “When SCOTUS doesn’t VIOLATE the Constitution and FORCE a loser on the citizens AGAINST THEIR WILL.” is not a sentence.

        There is no such thing as an “electorial” college.

        This will of which you speak is expressed by the people through their vote, when they vote/elect a president.

        You obviously don’t know what the word elect means when you say that the people don’t elect a president.

      • Steve Brains

        There vote is irrelevant and NOT the last stage of the Constitutional Process.

      • That’s complete and utter bullshit. And, it is completely irrrelevant whether or not it is the last stage of the Constitutional Process. I proved it is irrelevant by my valid scenario. You’re just making a bald, unsubstantiated assertion. You’ve got nothing.

      • Steve Brains

        I do suppose the Oath of Office is the LAST stage, but you gotta WIN the Electorial College confirmation first.

      • As I previously pointed out, this is irrelevant. My scenario is legitimate and proves that you are wrong.

        There is no such thing as an “Electorial College”.

      • Steve Brains

        Maybe if you never graduated Jr high…

      • There is no such thing as an “Electorial College”. You’re so enamored of your own thought, you are resistant to correction.

      • cravin moorehead

        Mr. Mosquito has appointed himself the, “Forward Progressives”, scold.

      • cravin moorehead

        Don Quixote, revisited.

        Only, in his case, he should be renamed, “DonkeyHootie.”

      • Steve Brains

        Donkey BOOTY

      • Steve Brains

        “Donkey Show @ Hooter’s??!!!!!!!!!

      • cravin moorehead

        @mosquito is to play the part of the burrrrrrow!

        did you realize he got his screen name because his “manhood” is the same size as the insects’?

      • Steve Brains

        I thought it was his annoying sound.

      • Steve Brains

        Ask Mosquito (now AKA ‘youcantgetridofmethateasily) if he ever smelled moth balls.

        Then ask him if “It’s kinda hard to hold all those little legs apart, isn’t it?”

      • Steve Brains

        BZZZZzzzzzzzzz z z z z z z z z

        word

      • regressive teaparty trash

        theoretically– however as it has never happened in this country you are showing mathematical stupidity VISAVIS probability
        =======================================
        example: u winning a discussion on this site using everyones votes–

      • David Kempton

        I am a strong proponent of absentee ballots, they create a paper trail that is hard to change without destroying or losing the ballots. But I admit I had not considered fraud, convenience and safety were my motives.

        I would think it could be fairly easy to avoid that kind of fraud, perhaps a fingerprint space on the envelope, or even this:

        I have to sign my name and date, and print name and address on the envelope. Software could scan and compare the signature and handwriting samples against previous to determine if it were genuine, or a copy (flag for likely fraud,) or just wrong (flag as questionable.) At that point the form is thrown out for investigation. There ARE places for caregivers to sign as witness that the person could not sign for themselves, that can be tricky still, but this safeguard, not that expensive to develop, while not perfect, would catch any but the most professional attempts, and patterns of abuse or fraud would be obvious when compared to other demographics. After the election, count the flags and if the difference could change a result, or the changes were egregious or widespread, investigate further. If it’s Bob Wannabe and friends who altered six votes that changed nothing, just record the incident and move on, unless this is more than twice.

        In software, all this is fairly simple after the handwriting analysis software is done reading the scans.

        But the apparent real numbers don’t generally support the financing a national effort, from what I have seen. Most serious voter frauds these days are generated for the purpose of screaming “Voter Fraud.”

      • Virginia Liberal

        Give me a break. You are paranoid. I completely disagree with you. People in this country don’t know enough about politics to plot something like that. In fact I’d dare say they would never even dream up an idea like that.

      • Guest

        Check out the post by Dawn. No that I can believe. No fraud but underhanded despicable tactics.

      • Virginia Liberal

        Check out the post left by Dawn, below. Now that is more of what you will run into at nursing homes. That is even worse than fraud.

    • Steve Brains

      BEcause there was a .0000004% chance or something. I forgot how many zeros… but we are talking NANO percentages here.

      In comparison, Michael Collins, the Apollo 11 astronaut who capsule-sat for Aldrin and Armstrong while they danced on the moon wrote a book about his mission. he pointed out that with 250,000 gallons of fuels, and he and two other guys were going sit on top of this 365 foot tall candle while a bunch of guys with pocket protectors were gonna LIGHT IT….

      IF… it was built to the most precision specs of 99.99999 perfection…
      FIFTY THOUSAND PIECES OF HIS CANDLE WERE GONNA BLOW OUT.

      That’s when he got scared.

      The point is the massive effort to safeguard elections from the mathematically most ridiculously impossibly TINIEST of possiblities of voter fraud would have the SAME KIND OF CATASTROPHIC RESULTS as the most perfectly human construction possible of Collins’ spacecraft.

      What did Lewis Black say tonight?

      The people who are elected should NEVER be allowed to decide who decides who gets elected!!

      Democracy has died.

      Bye Bye American pie….

    • Jim Bean

      Still, the ones chanting ‘there is no voter fraud’ and the ones passionately fighting uniform voter ID requirements are Democrats who never, ever, offer a counterproposal for a system of verifying voter eligibility. It cannot be that hard. It just cannot.

      I doesn’t pass the smell test.

      • Nemisis

        My opinion is that the greatest amount of voter fraud occurs before and after the ballots are cast.

      • Jim Bean

        I would not disagree with that.

      • Nemisis

        Okay.

      • Di Kelley

        The amount of fraud that occurs at polling places because of misidentification is so small that it isn’t even *worth* the voter ID laws. Fraud due to miscounting is much more prevelant and voter ID laws do not address that.

    • Kenneth Browning

      You’re also going to require that my job pays me since you’re requiring me to go? Good luck with that.

    • David Kempton

      I like it. A lot. But I’d make it a National Holiday, with exception only for security/fire/health personnel, who get either the day before or after, THEIR individual choice. But mandatory vote, with absentee balloting encouraged to minimize lines and waiting times.

  • Noteasilyoffended

    It’s time to form a fund to pay for ID’s for people who cannot afford them. I’ll donate $50 to it. Do any such exchanges exist in Republican-held States?

    • Nemisis

      I think if the states are going to require an ID the state should make every effort to ensure that all of it’s citizens are provided for.
      The nominal fee for the ID should be used to have mobilized resources that go around, year round, signing up the elderly, the disabled, or teaching our young newly eligible about the voting process and how important it is.

      I have a previous snarky post about the estimate on the cost to be around $800 billion, that should just about cover it.

  • VeteranMom

    Virginia has a new photo ID requirement this year.

  • Michael Siever

    Voter ID laws are not inherently bad for Democrats, as Democratic candidates have actually won major races in states where voter ID laws were in place, such as Obama winning Indiana in 2008 (just months after their voter ID law got upheld by SCOTUS), Joe Donnelly for the US Senate race in Indiana in 2012, and all three Democrats running for Governor, Lt. Governor and Attorney General won in Virginia late last year. And all of those races, it was projected that the Republicans would take them.

    That said, what is truly problematic about these voter ID laws is how the Republicans are trying to roll them out so quickly while employing underhanded tactics to sure ensure as few people are in compliance with them as possible. In Texas, right after the voter ID law passed, DPS (Texas equivalent of the DMV) shut down its offices in 81 of the 254 counties, forcing people living in those counties to drive 2 counties over to get a voter ID. This creates congestion in the remaining DPS offices, and the Republicans are doing this because they’re trying to dissuade people out of going through the steps to get a photo ID, because low voter turnout = Republicans getting elected/re-elected.

    What’s also strange is that the majority of fraudulent voting instances reported were merely people who had cast mail in ballots (which do not require photo ID), and feared that the mail in ballots wouldn’t get counted in time, so they drove to the polls, and voted in person, and their mail in ballots showed up, making it look as if they voted twice.

  • cravin moorehead

    republicans can NOT win elections with their ideas.

    They MUST rely on cheating and lies, to obtain office.

    The only people stupid enough to vote against their self interests, are the southern states.

    They are still fighting the “War of Northern Aggression.”

    Ass holes.

    • Steve Brains

      Republicans can’t even win without cheating anymore!!! Watch the early exit polls. When you see women and young people coming out because they are tired of the GOP obstructionism, the racism, sexism and creedism the GOP will fail to get the Senate and all will be well in gridlockland.

      Wonder if people in Boehner’s district have had enough of his crap and lies?

    • David Tuttle

      Sir, please do not generalize, not every southern voter is an idiot voting republican.

      • cravin moorehead

        You have my sincere apology, as well as my sympathy for having to live among so many dolts.

        I do understand that there are some in the south that possess intelligence.

        Unfortunately, very few of them EVER get elected into public office.

        Again, to you, I extend my apologies.

    • That’s funny. I didn’t know that states could be people. How does that work?

      • cravin moorehead

        Excuse me, scold.

        I guess that you couldn’t figure out that I had, inadvertently, omitted the word, “in.”

        Feel better about yourself, now?

      • mosquito

        That’s a load of crap, backpeddler. And, by the way, scold is not a noun.

  • Ian Jardim

    How about instead of collecting money to run ads the Democrats collect money to pay for peoples DI’s and papers so they can get registered to vote?

    • terribletwos

      And the republicans to do what.

    • Nemisis

      If you do that, you create a partisan based registration drive.
      That creates the question of legitimacy of the drive. Even if there is no actual fraud, the existence of the possibility is still there.

      It should be party neutral and a function of the government.
      I support a national ID card that covers everything.
      We have the computing power to manage it.
      Eligible voters would be able to walk up to any voting kiosk nation wide and cast their ballot. The initial set up would take some time and money however the benefit out weighs the cost.

      • Nemisis, what was wrong with “the possibility is still there”? Do you think that it makes you look more intelligent to add the entirely superfluous “the existence of”?

      • Nemisis

        There are many ways to rewrite the sentence I wrote.
        I could have chosen “remains” rather than “is still there” . “remains” is by far the better choice as it uses fewer words to convey the same idea.
        However since most of my posting is done on the fly using speech to text conversion software, my written word is generally spoken and then edited.
        There is a difference in spoken and written word that goes beyond the medium.

        Sometimes I simply chose words and methods that generate the greatest reaction from you.

        Notice, there is no use of the word “moron” by you in your last post.
        That is interesting. Either you are slipping, or you are evolving, either way a bet was just made.

      • You did not answer my question. Your reading comprehension is atrocious.

      • Nemisis

        Wrong, I am ignoring your question as you fail to complete the equation.
        Quid Pro Quo little monkey.

      • mosquito

        Your quite the moron. I am not wrong when I say “You did not answer my question.”. You most definitely did not answer my question.

        There is no Quid Pro Quo here. What did I tell you about your moronic equation?

      • Nemisis

        No, you dumbass. I am ignoring your question.
        You do have word problems don’t you.

        Anyway, let’s examine the facts so far.

        You claim to be John D. McCarthy a fine upstanding mentally unstable mathematics professor who enjoys casual strolls through campus buildings while wearing only socks.

        I said prove it. I offered you the chance to prove it by finishing an equation readily found in many of the published and pre-published articles of McCarthy.
        You are unable to finish it. Citing memory problems while bemoaning how much concentration one needs to devote to algebra so complex that only the mind of McCarthy could begin to understand.

        I contend that you are a fraud and an imposter and as such are a liar and everything you do should be suspect due to that.

        You claim to be a master debater. The NFL is laughing it’s collective ass off as you continue to use “bald assertion” with no evidence to back it up while claiming to have “proven” who you are simply by stating a name and refusing to actually back that claim up by completing an equation McCarthy would be able to complete.
        In any state of dress.
        Your continued attempts to distract from that are not getting you anywhere, because they are off topic.
        The topic being, are you MCarthy or just a sniveling twit.
        Bear in mind, I really want you to be McCarthy.
        I’m just not going to take your word for it.

      • mosquito

        You did not just say that you were ignoring my question. You said that I was wrong, dumbass.

        You’re a thoroughly ignorant person for mocking me for having a mental breakdown. Ignorant people like you are the reason why mental illness still has a stigma attached to it. But we’re going to make you idiots a thing of the past.

        You’re a moron. I already proved that I am John D. McCarthy. Any competent logician can confirm that my argument is a proof. That’s a fact, moron.

        You have no proof that I am unable to finish your moronic test. All you have is a moronic bald, unsubstantiated assertion, which amounts to nothing.

        You wrote: “Citing memory problems while bemoaning how much concentration one needs
        to devote to algebra so complex that only the mind of McCarthy could
        begin to understand.” That’s not a sentence, moron. And I never contended that the algebra in my paper was so complex that only the mind of McCarthy could begin to understand it. I merely made an obvious observation that you could not understand my papers. After all, you’re a moron.

        I have not made any attempts to distract. My posts have all been on topic. Exposing a blowhard for being a blowhard in this thread is definitely relevant to this thread.

      • Nemisis

        I’m not mocking you for having a mental breakdown. You are not McCarthy. I am mocking you because you are a little monkey dancing for quarters.

      • mosquito

        That’s utter nonsense. Of course you were mocking me for having a mental breakdown. One would have to be an idiot to accept your assertion that you were not doing that. You’re a pathological liar.

  • IBcrashen

    The
    party of “fiscal responsibility”, and “a smaller less intrusive
    government” wants to spend millions per election per state, so every
    voter has to have an ID when there is so little, if any “voter fraud” to
    justify it.

    • Willy Will

      At the same time they are gutting public funding for education and increasing credits to corporations. It’s the biggest snafu of our time.

  • Brian Asklund

    Yeah, because nobody would be getting a driver’s license for any other reason than to vote. Give me a break.

    • Nemisis

      Not all people are are allowed to drive.
      There are a great number who should not.

      Let the states that require the photo ID go around making sure that everyone has one at the states expense.

      • Oh really, there are a great number who should not are allowed to drive. That’s quite a moronic sentence. But that’s what you get by the rules of antecedents.

      • Nemisis

        Again. No.

      • Wrong, your sentence is most definitely that of an intellectual pygmy.

      • Nemisis

        Nah.

      • mosquito

        Wrong, your sentence is most definitely that of a learning disabled person.

      • Nemisis

        Wrong.

      • mosquito

        No, I’m right. Your sentence is that of a severely mentally deficient person. That’s a fact.

      • Nemisis

        nope

      • You obviously don’t know the rules of antecedents.

      • Nemisis

        Actually, predictable little monkey, I do.

      • mosquito

        No, you obviously don’t. If you did, then you would never have written the nonsense which you wrote.

    • Kenneth Browning

      Not everyone drives. In 2010 only 69% of 19 year olds had a drivers license. Thats down from 88% around 30 years ago. Fewer people are driving today than in the past.

  • netural

    most illegal immigrants vote demogratic too because they keep getting free passes into the us because of the democrats. all they are doing is making sure that everyone who votes is a legal citizen.
    By the way i dont vote because both parties are evil and i dont vote for evil of any level

    • terribletwos

      Care to change your tune after you check out what your God Ronnie Regan did?

    • Nemisis

      You don’t vote?

      Then STFU.

  • Steve Brains

    Th plan to DEFraud America WORKED!!!!

  • Nemisis

    TN requires a birth certificate for a fishing license as well.

    Them darn illegals….

  • linda ray

    I think we should have to show an ID,,,why not,? As far as the cost of a drivers license or state ID..its cheaper than a gun permit, a fishing license, or hunting license and it last longer..So whats the big deal. Not covering for the republicans since I am a democrat..Just sayin..why make a big deal out of it.

    • Kenneth Browning

      Cheaper than a fishing license where? A new drivers license here is 20-25 bucks(as said in the article, as high as over 50 in some states) and this year I paid 14 for my fishing license.

  • danielistical

    In-Person Voter Fraud Is Virtually Nonexistent,
    Federal Judge Rules Posted: 04/29/2014

    WASHINGTON — Trying to crack down on
    in-person voter fraud isn’t a strong enough justification for Wisconsin’s voter
    ID law, a federal judge ruled Tuesday, because voter impersonation virtually
    never occurs now and is unlikely to become a real problem in the future.
    “The evidence at trial established that virtually no voter impersonation
    occurs in Wisconsin,” Adelman ruled in Frank v. Walker. “The defendants could not point to a single instance
    of known voter impersonation occurring in Wisconsin at any time in the recent
    past

    THAT’S RIGHT SCOTT
    WALKER,,THE GOVERNER OF WISSCONSIN COULD NOT PRESENT ENEN ONE,,,NOT ONE CASE OF
    VOTER FRAUD IN HIS OWN STATE

    We
    already have a voter I D it is called you voter registration card and your
    signature affirming that it is you voting. Why do we need MORE added I D?? If you utter the words voter fraud,,then back up the claim of this crime that you
    CLAIM is being committed. All you have to do is name 6 (six) cases of voter
    fraud ,, that’s all just 6. I have been looking for years and can only account
    for 5 names dates people and places of actual voter fraud.

    THE VOTER
    ID IS REPUBLICAN VOTER SUPRESION PURE AND SIMPLE

  • rider71

    I believe the federal government can bypass these state laws by making a federal law that all natural born Americans are entitled to a free Federal ID and Birth Certificate upon request… Valid anywhere within the national borders….easy enough…

  • Republicans are gay + 10

  • Reason2tango

    Please understand that the GOP organizations that are pulling this off understand perfectly well that there is no significant voter fraud. These efforts are entirely motivated to discourage poor people from voting because they (GOP) believe those people may be inclined to vote for Democratic candidates. They do NOT give a shit that it’s not fair or essentially unconstitutional. The GOP works from a narrow minded philosophy that values business profit over all else. If business succeeds then America succeeds. While this may be true in the short term I believe that the short term ran out about fifteen years ago. If not checked the US economy will ultimately resemble the Asian countries we now exploit. And unfortunately it will require violent revolution to reset itself. Fortunately I will be dead.

  • prosecond

    A report asked for by democrats that means in the favor of democrats? I bet that’s an honest report. Voter I’d laws do not disenfranchise anybody unless they want to be. You need an I’d to buy booze, buy cigarettes, open a checking account and many other things. Bernie Sanders says he’s an independent but looks and so nds more line a democrat.

  • traveler281

    According to the report Sanders quoted, it is costly for voters to get the proper identification to prove they are qualified to vote. He says we should, therefore, stop requiring prospective voters to prove they are citizens; he would open our elections to let anyone who wants to vote. There is another way to interpret the report!
    I would use the report he quoted to initiate a federal or state system of providing IDs to everyone free of charge! Democrats have no problem with giving every citizen free health care but they don’t want to provide free IDs in order to protect the integrity of our elections!

  • C. Vanasse

    We should do what they do in Washington State. Every person already registered to vote should receive a ballot in the mail weeks ahead of time. That ballot should be accompanied by pages of each candidate’s platform and their stand on all the issues applicable. Those unregistered voters that are 18 and older should be able to register simply by filling out a form sent to them in the mail. I dare you right wing chicken-s***s to let every eligible voter actually exercise their right to vote irrespective of their affiliation.

  • Virginia Liberal

    So, I wish someone would tell me how we can fight back on this?

  • Sharon Williams

    It won’t stop until Voters stop voting Republican and vote against themselves, but I don’t see that happening. .. personally. .. I see another country in my future…

  • Whylee77

    Even as a liberal democrat, I seriously have no issue with everyone having an ID. You need it to fly, you need it write a check, you need it for just about everything. I think the most reasonable consensus would be for 1 free ID every X amount a years when your ID expires. Still charge for a drivers license- That is a privledge, not a right. but there should be a minimal if any charge for a standard state ID.

  • Sam

    People need ID’s for EVERYTHING. The reason some people don’t want to show their ID at a polling place is because they committed a crime of some kind and don’t want to be identified… OR, they are in the US illegally. Photo ID’s for voting makes perfect sense.