It’s Bullshit To Equate The Liberal Reaction to Trump’s Win with the Conservative Reaction to Obama’s in 2008

Since Donald Trump’s fairly unexpected victory over Hillary Clinton, there’s been an interesting show of hypocrisy by people on both the left and the right. While some liberals have claimed that Trump’s “not their president” (sorry, folks, he is), many of the same conservatives who showed President Obama absolutely no respect over the last eight years have been “offended” at the lack of respect many progressives have displayed toward their candidate.



Naturally, this hypocrisy has led some to compare the progressive reaction this year to how conservatives handled 2008’s election of President Obama.

Sorry, but the two do not remotely compare.

While I don’t buy into the liberal “he’s not my president thing” (again, he won — end of story), saying that their negative reaction to Trump’s win is the same as the conservative reaction to Obama’s in 2008 is bullshit.

When conservatives freaked the hell out after Barack Obama was first elected (and really throughout the entire eight year hissy fit that’s followed), they “feared” him for things that weren’t true. Republicans were sold a long-list of ridiculous conspiracy theories and most bought nearly every damn one of them.

Since his election and over the past eight years conservatives were told he is/was:

  • Not an American citizen.
  • Living under an alias.
  • A secret Muslim.
  • Working with the Muslim Brotherhood.
  • Never went to Harvard or Columbia since none of his classmates recalled him being there.
  • Ordering authorities to keep his transcripts sealed to hide the fact he’s lying about his education.
  • Capable of forging two forms of his birth certificate.
  • Going to use FEMA camps to round up Republicans.
  • Going to confiscate guns.
  • Anti-American.
  • Going to outlaw Christianity.
  • Waging a war on Christmas.
  • Changing the Constitution so he could run for a third term.
  • A dictator.
  • Someone who hated white people.
  • Took his Oath of Office on the Koran.
  • A socialist/Marxist/communist.
  • Anti-capitalism.
  • Faking jobs reports and lying about the unemployment rate.
  • Using a military exercise to declare martial law to confiscate guns.
  • Allowing terrorists to come to the United States to kill Americans.
  • Literally the anti-Christ.
  • Using the Affordable Care Act to set up death panels to kill Americans.

The list goes on and on — a list filled with nonsense that’s so incredibly ridiculous you’d have to want to hate him to believe any of it.

Yet, it’s all of those lies that conservatives pushed, many before he was even elected, that triggered the “outrage” and “fear” shown by so many Republicans toward him. It was the endless onslaught of propaganda and outright conspiracies that fueled the irrational disdain and hatred so many Republicans have felt toward President Obama for eight years.

But the people who loathe, fear and hate Donald Trump aren’t making this stuff up — they’re quoting him verbatim. 



Trump’s critics didn’t make up the fact that he:

  • Mocked a man with disabilities.
  • Attacked the parents of a fallen American hero.
  • Belittled POWs and the war record of Sen. John McCain.
  • Lied about how much money he raised for veterans.
  • Called a former Miss Universe “disgusting” and fat, telling his Twitter followers to find her non-existent sex tape.
  • Accused an American-born federal judge of being unfit to do his job because of his Mexican heritage.
  • Avoided paying taxes for nearly two decades.
  • Called most Mexican immigrants rapists and criminals, even though that’s not remotely factual.
  • Lied about seeing “thousands and thousands” of Muslims celebrating in New Jersey on 9/11.
  • Lied about getting a letter from the NFL complaining about the debate schedule.
  • Tried to exploit the death of an African American woman in Chicago to say that’s why black voters will support him.
  • Found the “bright side” to tragedies because his poll numbers tend to go up.
  • Settled with the Department of Justice after his company was found guilty of racially discriminating against minorities.
  • Has cheated on at least one wife.
  • Was just discovered on video admitting that he not only tried to cheat on his current wife, but he attempted to do so with another married woman.
  • Had his first wife publicly say that he did nothing when it came to raising their children until they were old enough to talk business.
  • Tweeted that women should have expected to be sexually assaulted when they mixed males and females together in the military.
  • Said he wants to target the families of terrorists.
  • Stated that he wants to ban an entire religion.
  • Praised a Russian president who obviously hates the U.S. and Americans.
  • Encouraged the Russian government to commit espionage against Americans.
  • Insinuated that another Republican’s wife was ugly.
  • Tried to implicate another Republican’s father in JFK’s assassination.
  • Sought out the help of former Fox News CEO Roger Ailes after he was fired following multiple allegations that he had sexually harassed women for years.
  • Made Breitbart’s Steve Bannon one of his top campaign people.
  • Had a former campaign manager abruptly resign after a report came out linking him to pro-Russian groups that were directly trying to undermine U.S. policy in eastern Europe.
  • Called Carly Fiornia ugly.
  • Has said climate change was a hoax created by the Chinese — then denied saying it.
  • Was a leading conspiracy theorist when it came to the racist-driven birther conspiracies against President Obama.
  • Dismissed nearly eight years of accusing the president of not being an American with a less than 30 second statement where he didn’t apologize for any of it.
  • Tried to blame Hillary Clinton for his racism.
  • Re-tweeted anti-African American propaganda created by a white supremacy group.
  • Played dumb about knowing who former Grand Wizard of the KKK David Duke was.
  • Skipped a presidential debate because he was scared of a moderator.
  • Has, on several occasions, suggested he finds his daughter attractive.
  • Called a husband doing things like changing diapers and helping with the children, a man “trying to be the wife.”
  • Has said he wants more countries to have nuclear weapons.
  • Feels he has the right to sexually assault women.

People fearful and afraid of Trump’s presidency didn’t make all of that up — he said and did all of that. 

To say nothing about the fact that a former Grand Wizard of the KKK and your typical Jewish-hating white nationalist said Trump’s victory was “one of the most exciting nights” of his life, calling it a big victory for “his people,” boasting about the role white supremacists played in helping elect him.

We also shouldn’t forget the fact that both Russian dictator Vladimir Putin and Syrian dictator Bashar al-Assad have both openly praised Trump’s victory.

Because it’s always good when two serial-murderering dictators, a white supremacist and one of the world’s most famous hate groups are all on the same side in celebrating a presidential victory.

But let me be clear, those are all facts. They’re not subjective opinions, or “left-wing anti-Trump propaganda” — everything I just listed is true. I know many of his supporters will deny some of these things, or bend over backwards to make excuses for others, but none of that changes the reality that it’s all true. Unlike the idiotic gibberish, disinformation and indoctrination the right has pushed about President Obama for the last eight years.

So, please, spare me this outlandish drivel about the outrage and fear being shown and felt by the left right now being similar to what conservatives felt about President Obama in 2008 — because it’s not remotely comparable.

In 2008, the conservative “fear and outrage” concerning Barack Obama was driven by racism, lies, propaganda and conspiracy theories. This election, the fear and outrage many are feeling about Donald Trump is based on nothing more than exactly who he is, exactly what he’s said and done, and exactly who the types of people backing him are.

Feel free to hit me up on Twitter or Facebook and let me know what you think.




Allen Clifton

Allen Clifton is a native Texan who now lives in the Austin area. He has a degree in Political Science from Sam Houston State University. Allen is a co-founder of Forward Progressives and creator of the popular Right Off A Cliff column and Facebook page. Be sure to follow Allen on Twitter and Facebook, and subscribe to his channel on YouTube as well.

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  • Brian

    There were no riots, calls for the death of white people, or death threats against electors in 2008 or 2012. Obama empowered anarchists and terrorists. Face it.

    • wildturkey3776 .

      Amen, this idiot is trying to compare trump not even been ion office yet with 8 years of data. Lets wait till Trump is at an end of his run and see how democrats and republicans stack up.

      • Angie

        Bush will go down as a better President than impeached orangutan Trump….and that ain’t saying much

    • Angie

      Take your head out of your rear end

    • Marci Elizondo

      You’re kinda proving the writer’s point here – Who called for the deaths of white pople and electors? And how exactly did Obama empower anarchists and terrorists? The previous administration empowered and created more terrorists by creating a war in Iraq and laying that groundwork. You’re continuing the tradition of making stuff up and throwing Obama’s name on it. It would be hilarious if it weren’t so dumb and dangerous.

      • Nick25

        “Pigs in a blanket, fry ’em like bacon” comes to mind. ‘bama never once denounced BLM, he invited them to the White House. Under ‘bama police have been killed, and nuts have been allowed to run wild.

      • Paul Hess

        And why should he denounce BLM? Their contention is that black lives matter. Why would a black man denounce that and even more interestingly, why would you have a beef with that? They don’t say that black lives are more important, they just want to feel that they matter equally and FFS even crazy Glenn Beck gets it.

      • Paul Hess

        Just your tendency to call Obama “‘bama” tells me all I need to know about your feelings about black people.

      • skecanj

        Wow, you must be reading a lot of tiny type in between the lines – because for the life of me I fail to see how ‘bama = black. The ‘ in ‘bama is an apostrophe signifying that a letter should be there – just an informal way of writing…
        … like writing ’cause instead of because…

        But you probably think that makes ’cause black.

      • truthbeatold

        And what do you suggest leftists calling Trump “Drumpf” says about them?

      • Richard Abel

        uh, he’s nazi like.

      • truthbeatold

        Ah yes, the go to attack when leftists have run out of excuses.

      • exit 7

        Well, it does happen to be his families original surname. So if that’s all it takes to be considered on the attack…

      • truthbeatold

        Even you don’t believe the words you typed. C’mon now.

      • exit 7

        It implies that people know what his families original surname is. It implies that we are aware that even his name is a lie.

      • truthbeatold

        You’re either being disingenuous or you’re incredibly naive.

      • Herb Stokes III

        Drumpf is actually the original spelling of his family surname until they changed it. Bama is a derogatory racial slur first used to insult new southern blacks moving to D.C. It was an implied way of calling them black hicks. Try spending 10 seconds doing some research next time.

      • truthbeatold

        Yes, I’m aware that Drumpf is his original family surname so spare me your ignorant condescension, Herb. I’m also aware, as I believe you are as well, that people who refer to the President as “Drumpf” are not doing so simply because that’s his ancestral surname, but rather to disparage him. Whether you possess the intellectual honesty to admit as much, I don’t know. As for “bama”, the term has many non-racial meanings and you have no means to ascertain what meaning, if any, the person was intending. As for the particular meaning you divined based on zero evidence, you should also be aware that the term was originated by blacks in DC to describe blacks from the south. Given the fact that ex-president Barack Obama is neither from the South or “country” it makes even less sense that this was the intended meaning. Next time, before spouting off, I suggest you get your shit straight.

      • Herb Stokes III

        You asked what is says about people using the word Drumpf because you were comparing that to the usage of the word ‘bama.

        You said nothing about motivation of the person using the word ‘bama or the motivation of the word Drumpf.

        I answered your question exactly as you worded it. If you wanted something else, you should have asked for something else. I’ll bet you’re so narrow minded you can look through a key hole with both eyes. Save your criticism for someone with your own mentality.

      • truthbeatold

        Herb,
        I asked you a very simple question. “And what do you suggest leftists calling Trump “Drumpf” says about them?” Your answer: “Drumpf is actually the original spelling of his family surname until they changed it.” Clearly, you did not answer my question as I worded it. Perhaps if you had spent your limited intellectual capacity on reading comprehension rather than attempting (rather poorly) to insult me on your divined meaning of ‘bama (which had absolutely nothing to do with my question) you’d have fared better.

      • skecanj

        Wow, you must be reading a lot of tiny type in between the lines – because for the life of me I
        fail to see how ‘bama = black. The ‘ in ‘bama is an apostrophe signifying that a letter should be there – just an informal way of writing…

        … like writing ’cause instead of because…

        But you probably think that makes ’cause
        black because it has an apostrophe. (?)

        I guess leaving off a letter at the END of a word
        instead of the beginning and replacing it with an apostrophe – as in nothin’ or Trum’ – would make it, what – white?

        If he had called Trump ‘rump, I guess by your
        reasoning that would have indicated not only that Trump is black but that he dislikes his being black.

        Idk… I’m just trying to figure out your logic.

      • Nick25

        Not true- they’re offended when someone says All Lives Matter– Democrats had to publically apologize when they’ve said All Lives Matter. With all that- BLM is a canard. It’s a tool used to divide the US that’s proven to be funded by George Soros to foment discontent. It’s also been proven if your black you LESS likely to be shot at by the police. It’s all garbage and it’s resulted in the death of police officers and crime off the chart.

      • davebedini

        Missing the point. the whole thing about BLM is, to a large extent, there is evidence that black lives don’t matter as much as white ones to this country. Everything from how hard it is for a black person to get a job, even if equally qualified as a white person, to violence against black people by cops, to inequities in drug law enforcement and sentencing, there is clearly a stacked deck. All lives SHOULD matter, and they should all have the same level of respect, but they don’t.

      • Nick25

        Such BULLSH*T. Black get jobs OVER whites, they get admitted to colleges OVER whites when they’re not qualified. Take that liberal garbage to someone else’s thread. I’m in upper management and I can tell you story after story how this is just GARBAGE. God I’m so glad this idiocy is going to end.

      • davebedini

        Never commenting on one of your threads strikes me as a great idea. And sadly, you have no idea how bad things are going to get. Bye.

      • Nick25

        #MAGA!!!!!

      • HairyEyedWordBombThrower

        Paul Newman, your avatar, was a progressive Democrat, and he would have (politely) spit in your face.

      • Nick25

        Oh, and things are INFINITELY better and President Trump has only been in office for 4 hours!

      • HairyEyedWordBombThrower

        Show me NUMBERS, asshole, not your butthurt cries of martyrbation.

      • Nick25

        Every-time you idiots post, I get a tingle in my leg know the next 8 years will be AMAZING. I’m loving drinking in all your tears 😉

      • exit 7

        Poor nick. How ever do you manage in this mean old world?

      • Nick25

        The next 8 years are going to be even more amazing every time I read one you snowflake’s posting in response to one of my posts. Now go get your safety pin, get your sippy cup, go grab a binky and curl up in a ball in your safe space in mommy’s basement, then maybe you’ll be able to survive the next 8 years, then 8 years after that. Reply again– I LOVE it #MAGA!!!!!! Go get that hug from mommy, ok pumkin?????? You’re so special.

      • exit 7

        Can’t wait to see President Drumpf resign or be impeached!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      • Nick25

        Are the sidewalks made of Hershey Chocolate, the bushes made of cotton candy, and do the streams of champagne that run through la la land in your head help you sleep soundly at night?

      • exit 7

        Nick, get a life.

      • Nick25

        You got it, snowflake :-).

      • exit 7

        I think the term “snowflake” more aptly refers to our new president.

      • Nick25

        Doesn’t really matter what you or your side thinks anymore, does it- toots :-).

      • exit 7

        Of course it does toots. Every American Snowflake matters.

      • Nick25

        Is that the ESM – Every Snowflake Matters movement???? I suspect you’re going to be filling a lot of Xanax prescriptions in the next 8 years.

      • JR

        You’re funny. White privilege has been going on for centuries, and you’re mad because people of color have been given more chances to pursue the American dream for the last 40 years. It was against the law to teach a black person to read 100 years ago. I won’t go on any longer, because you most likely think that slavery was a privilege. That driving American Indians off their land was the best thing that ever happened. That forcing Asian Americans in concentration camps saved the country…Phew. You’re not just funny–you’re the kind of person I pity.

      • Nick25

        Another indoctrinated snowflake— it’ll take President Trump every day of the next 8 years to disinfect this country from the stench of the last 8 years.

      • truthbeatold

        Actually, where black lives matter least is in black communities where blacks are murdered by the thousands, black children are abandoned by their fathers and black students are ridiculed for doing well in school.

      • HairyEyedWordBombThrower

        Who’s getting shot in the street by police, mostly? BLACK PEOPLE

        You’re just trying to whitesplain your privilege away…and showing yourself to be a typically selfish asshole in the process.

      • Nick25

        Who’s commiting the crimes- BLACK people- in BLACK neighborhoods you idiot.

      • truthbeatold

        You’re wrong. More whites are killed by police every year than blacks. Research your facts, Hairy.

      • truthbeatold

        Why denounce BLM? Because they’re on video shouting hateful statements calling for the assassination of police officers, which has in fact, happened. The don’t just say black lives matter. They denounce the statement that all lives matter, which voids your claim that they just want to feel that black lives matter equally. In fact, more white people are killed every year than blacks, and even when accounting for percentage of population, whites are more likely to be killed during interactions with police than blacks. But you don’t seem to be the type to have any use for facts.

      • HairyEyedWordBombThrower

        So you believe police are always right, and never to be questioned, even when they’re caught on video shooting people in the back and lying about it?

        They’ll only get respect when they EARN it by washing their dirty laundry *spotlessly* clean, in PUBLIC.

      • Nick25

        And you’ll get shot if you threaten a cop. Idiot.

      • truthbeatold

        Only children use silly strawman arguments.

      • JR

        Ya know, that saying has been around since I was in middle school. Ya know what else? White people said it.

    • exit 7

      Did you feel empowered to be an anarchist or terrorist? Cause I never got that vibe personally.

    • Richard Abel

      wtf? English translation please.

  • Angie

    Right on!

  • DorothyM

    Saying the illegitimately elected Trump is my president, is like saying a criminal defendant who got off by bribing the jury is not guilty. You can’t legitimize a result that was illegally obtained. He’s not my president!

    • truthbeatold

      “Illegally obtained”? How so?

    • KatRos

      Do you mean like people who enterred this country illegally?

  • Nick25

    It’s going to be a glorious 8 years!!! #MAGA!!!!!

    • Clink Roslam

      He won’t last 4 years. And no medical or psychiatric associations have ever reported that Liberalism is a disease of any kind. Nice try making shit up.

      • Nick25

        Democrats do not have the House OR Senate— you can live in your delusion all you like– YOUR delusion will never intersect reality. He WILL be the President for the next 8 years. And the fact that liberalism is a psychosis cannot be argued, it’s fact.

        Our President is speaking– excuse me while I revel in it . 🙂

      • Clink Roslam

        You mean wallow in it. He told you lies just for your vote, and you ate it up. He has no interest in the middle class, and only is concerned with making himself richer. You and the poor folks in the red states believed his lies, hook, line and sinker. And I’m still waiting for your credible, professional proof that Liberalism is a disease. I’ll wait… but I guess if you keep lying about it, it becomes fact, huh?

      • Nick25

        1200 lost democrat seats since the idiot was elected 8 years ago, a decimated idiotic party and you lefties can’t deal in that reality. More people on government assistance since FOREVER, race relations worse than it’s ever been, Chicago and Baltimore-2 liberal bastions worse than Iraq or Lybia, practically ZERO growth in the last 8 years, and you nutty lefties think ‘bama was a great president- THAT IS DETACHMENT FROM REALITY, a hallmark of psychosis. I could list more, but there’s no point– you won’t get it- you’re psychotic. Now Rush Limbaugh is in hour 2– I gotta go listen to the part :-).

      • Clink Roslam

        You must have been in a coma during the failed Bush years, if you can’t see the vast improvement of the past 8 years compared to the previous 8 years. Talk about detachment and living in denial in order to justify your idiotic narrative!
        And Obama isn’t at fault for race relations. Obama never said or did anything to divide the races. Heck, he’s half white! Show me one interview, one public address or speech, a single idea he proposed, or bill he signed that denigrates, insults, patronizes, or outright belittles white people. The divide started with the angry whites that couldn’t stand the fact that a black man was in charge and in the White House. That’s where the divide began, with angry masses of ignorance, bias, prejudice, and racism. Now, compare him to Trump. Trump actually did openly say things that offend religions, races, immigrants, gays, women, veterans, etc. He single-handedly opened the door for intolerance, and acceptance to act out in hatred against the aforementioned groups. Will YOU be as vocal about Trump’s divisiveness, as you were, falsely, about Obama?
        Still awaiting your peer-reviewed report that Liberalism is a disease. Enjoy Rush, ditto-head.

      • Nick25

        All that weed you insane liberals have smoked has ruined your already feeble brains, either that or you’re ignorant when it comes to ‘bama’s divisiveness. Let me give you just a few gem quotes. “A white man’s greed, runs a world in need,” “My grandmother was a typical white lady afraid of blacks,” “Bitter clingers holding on to their guns and bibles,” “The police acted stupidly (a PRESIDENT saying the police acted stupidly-unreal),” And those are just a few– and that doesn’t discount the fact that he spent 20 years in the “rev” wright’s “church” where he loved to say “GD America,” and “the White Man is the devil.” You are INSANE AND IGNORANT at the same time- another hall mark of loony liberalism. Democrats came to power pitting blacks against whites, rich against poor, ILLEGAL ALIENS against citizens, but those days are over!!!! 🙂

        And you’re wrong on Bush–he had full employment until 9/11 that can be laid at the feet of bubba clinton who allowed OBL to grow in strength and ferocity because he didn’t deal with it, and the near economic collapse was, again – the fruits of the idiot clinton that forced banks to loan to people who would NEVER be able to pay them back all helped by the “justice department” of Jane Reno.

        You know no facts– you’re a mind numbed liberal and your days are OVER– you’ve been marginalized and that’s an AWESOME thing!

      • Clink Roslam

        uch rambling on and on, but not saying anything besides name-calling. I don’t use any drugs of any kind, but hey, if you feel better name-calling, continue to be childish like Trumpy. You both deserve each other.

        Some words for you, but you’ll reject them out of ignorance and habit. I will live by them.

        “As Mankind becomes more LIBERAL, they will be more apt to allow that all those who conduct themselves as worthy members of the community are equally entitled to the protections of civil government. I hope ever to see America among the foremost nations of justice and LIBERALITY.”
        ― George Washington

      • Nick25

        We’re done snowflake— Have a good life, enjoy the next 8 years.

      • HairyEyedWordBombThrower

        I will…4 of them will be under a Democratic President. Count on it.

      • Nick25

        Yea, ok— come ride my unicorn and eat my rainbow pop corn– you clowns don’t learn.

      • HairyEyedWordBombThrower

        so you’re claiming Dubya had ‘full employment’ for 9 months of his 8 years, and that’s supposed to be good?

        I only hope you get the worst of what’s coming.

      • HairyEyedWordBombThrower

        So? Just proves YOUR KIND can cheat, gerrymander, and lie.

        It was *your* Reagan that removed the Fairness Doctrine, allowing Faux News to survive the lawsuits for LIES that would have sunk it as a business enterprise otherwise.

        For a nearby example, look @ Canada. They still *have* their version of the Fairness Doctrine, and Murdoch’s attempt at a Faux News / Sky TV type channel failed because it kept being fined for lying and misleading the public.

      • Nick25

        You’re so stupid— Cheat???? Like Sanders getting all the support and losing, or CNN giving Hilary the questions to the debate, or when Radditz answered questions for clinton in the second debate- the depth of your stupid is bottomless.

      • JR

        Don’t forget, another national election in 2 years!

      • Nick25

        Just more Republican seats to get!!!

      • Denise Kelly

        Making shit up is all Trump supporters have.

    • HairyEyedWordBombThrower

      When all you’ve got is a bunch of insulting assertions and no data, it’s obvious you’re Repug.

      And again, Paul Newman, your avatar, would have been disgusted with you.

      • blusti

        That you would have the hubris to speak for what another man would or would not do is highly telling of your character. Only the liberal elite would think they have that capability.

  • smithson63

    Couldn’t agree more.

  • skecanj

    WHY CAN’T WE ALL JUST GET ALONG???

    • truthbeatold

      Because leftists are intolerant of those with opinions that differ from their own.