Cenk Uygur Shreds Open Carry ‘Lunatic’ Who Wants to Bring Gun Into Daughter’s School (Video)

cenk-uygurWhen it comes to gun fanatics, I’ve pretty much lost most of my patience in dealing with them. I’ve just reached my limit with the overall idiocy of many of these people. In this country we can’t even begin to have a common sense debate about gun violence because there are literally millions of idiots who don’t believe guns have anything to do with it. And when you’re dealing with that many people who don’t think guns have anything to do with gun violence – it’s really hard to even try to discuss the issue with these people, let alone try to get actual rational solutions passed through Congress.


But even beyond your run-of-the-mill gun nut you have the open carry gun fanatic. These are the folks who, in my opinion, are suffering from severe levels of paranoia and insecurity. That theory seems to be supported by how hostile and aggressive many open carry advocates tend to be.

Well, there’s a case in Michigan where a father fought for (and won) the right to openly carry his pistol with him at his daughter’s elementary school. While this sounds absurd (because it should), the reason he was allowed to carry his gun is due to a weird loophole in the state’s gun laws that allows concealed-carry permit holders to do so.

Well, Cenk Uygur absolutely went off about the fact this guy feels the need to openly carry a handgun with him at his daughter’s school.

“If you had told me many years ago, ‘At some point in America we’ll devolve to the point where they’re letting parents bring guns to elementary schools,’ I would say that sounds fanciful,” Uygur said. “But everything that we thought couldn’t happen has happened.”

That’s absolutely true. I highly doubt many students (especially those in elementary school) are going to feel safer seeing some random guy walking through their hallways, openly carrying a gun.

Not only that, but what if a parent visiting a student in middle school or high school wants to do the same thing? Is it exactly safe to have parents openly carrying guns around campuses where students are of the age where they could then try to grab one of these guns and use it on another student?

Uygur then went on into great detail about how the Second Amendment addresses well regulated militias and how random Americans carrying guns holstered to their hips at all times does not constitute what’s clearly outlined in our Second Amendment.

“I know that you’re a guy who can’t wait to use it, ’cause you’re a lunatic who likes to show his gun around everywhere,” Uygur said of open carry advocates. “This is the f*cked up country we live in.”


And he’s right. I’ve always said that one of the things I’ve noticed from many open carry advocates hasn’t really been a need to openly carry a gun (because there really is none), but their arrogant desire to shove the fact that they can carry a gun openly in the faces of those who are uncomfortable with them doing so.

Though I’ll still argue that anyone who’s so paranoid that they feel the need to carry a gun with them at all times, is probably someone who’s too mentally ill to own guns in the first place, and is certainly not a “free person.” If you can’t even leave your gun in your car for a few minutes while dropping your daughter off at her elementary school, in my opinion, that’s a sign of some sort of mental instability.

Watch the video below via The Young Turks:




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Allen Clifton is a native Texan who now lives in the Austin area. He has a degree in Political Science from Sam Houston State University. Allen is a co-founder of Forward Progressives and creator of the popular Right Off A Cliff column and Facebook page. Be sure to follow Allen on Twitter and Facebook, and subscribe to his channel on YouTube as well.

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  • Charles Vincent

    “In this country we can’t even begin to have a common sense debate about gun violence because there are literally millions of idiots who don’t believe guns have anything to do with it.”

    I see you’re off your meds again Allen. Guns don’t cause violence any more than Knives blunt weapons hands and feet or anything else someone chooses to use to assault someone else.

    How do people with any brain power know this? Simple, were people being violent before guns were even invented? Yes, yes they were this effectively proves its not the implement it’s the person that is violent.

    Moreover Georgia law allows licensed gun owners to carry in “Gun Free” zones.

    http://www.ajc.com/news/news/crime-law/lawsuit-seeks-permission-for-dad-to-bring-gun-to-d/ng6xw/

    • Pjs8200

      “I see you’re off your meds again Allen. Guns don’t cause violence any
      more than Knives blunt weapons hands and feet or anything else someone
      chooses to use to assault someone else.”

      Charles, You sir are exactly the type of person Cenk is talking about. Please tell us how many times someone has killed multiple people in a school by stabbing them to death. Columbine, Sandy Hook, Aurora…..

      I don’t have a problem with CC, what I have a problem with are people so paranoid and fanatical that they can’t be without their gun for 2 seconds.

      • Charles Vincent

        Well the mental midgets are out in force. What I said is a logical contradiction in your argument. Yet you lack the intellectual capacity to understand that inanimate objects do not cause violence. So you instead make an ad hominem attack and a moral high ground fallacy because you lack said mental capacity to do any actual critical thinking.

        So I will draw it out in crayon for you morons. You see violence predates all weapons which means it was happening before they were invented.

        You following this chief?

        So you see if violent behavior predates the thing you claim causes violence then you have that logical contradiction I mentioned earlier.

        And then you mental midgets propose a plan that harms people that did nothing because an statistically insignificant set of the population did something wrong.

        So essentially this is what you want to do. You have four kids and one did something wrong and you know who but instead of punishing the one who did the wrong you punish the other 3 and let the fourth who did the wrong go play.

        “Please tell us how many times someone has killed multiple people in a
        school by stabbing them to death. Columbine, Sandy Hook, Aurora…..”

        Anti-police stabbing spree in Shanghai, China: 7/2008. 6 Police Officers stabbed to death, 4 wounded. 28 year old man angry at police attacked a police station with a knife. (Citizens cannot own firearms in China. Yet there is still violence and mass murder)

        Akihabara Massacre, Chiyoda City, Tokyo, Japan:6/8/2008. 7 people killed (3 struck by car, 4 by stabbing), many more injured. Man slammed into a crowd with his car, then jumped out and began stabbing people to death.
        (Citizens cannot own firearms in Japan. Yet there is still violence and mass murder)

        18 year old slashes 4 to death in Sitka, Alaska, US:3/25/2008. 4 people killed. 18 year old (old enough to purchase a rifle over the counter) kills 4 people, related to him, with a 5 inch knife.

        These three examples illustrate the logical contradiction in your argument

        GG morons.

        P.S.

        I don’t care what you like You cannot infringe on any rights of any individual without Due Process read the 5th amendment to the constitution, Voting to restrict a natural right is not due process.

      • MacDoodle

        This is perhaps one of the most brilliant retorts ever posted on this left wing website.Bravo my man well written.When they begin losing arguments they resort to childish name calling and personal attacks.

      • Charles Vincent

        Head nod and thanks for gracious words.

      • Pjs8200

        Funny…..he’s the guy calling everyone else a moron.

      • noah vail

        A ) GUNS have everything to do with GUN VIOLENCE.
        B) the conversation is about America not China 7 years ago
        C) you’re exactly the type of MORON the writer is talking about, even with your lame arguments

      • Charles Vincent

        No people are violent not inanimate objects since we have already established that violent behavior predates the invention of tools like firearms, bows, swords, knives, bats etcetera.

        Still missing the boat and the second one was in Alaska moron.

        Please stop talking until you can use actual facts to present an argument.

      • Wayne Johnson

        You also have a right to protest, but yet there are rules in place that you have to abide by to do it.

        You also have a right to free speech, but yet there are rules that prevent saying things in certain instances.

        You also have the right to practice any religion, but yet there are some religious practices that are illegal.

        Just because it is in the constitution, doesn’t mean you can’t have other laws and regulations governing them.

      • Charles Vincent

        And all those rules are natural limitations chief the limitation is clear if you understand the non aggression principle. Likewise the nonaggression principle also regulates the bearing of arms. Please take a civics course.

      • Wayne Johnson

        Non-aggression principle!!! Ahh, you are one of those…I am starting to understand now…

        *It’s okay everyone, he’s just a libertarian! Nothing more to see here!

      • Charles Vincent

        Ahh there is the moronic ad lapidem response I was waiting for. Actually I am more of a lockean like the group of men that founded this country. Nice try at evasion though.

      • Wayne Johnson

        You know what, I honestly feel bad for you dude. The sad part is, is that you actually believe that you are some kind of genius. You think that since you throw around big words, know some logical fallacies, probably read some Rothbard and Rand and some obscure neo-conservative blogs that you somehow got it all figured out. In reality, your just some pretentious, borderline aspergers kid who goes around insulting people and can’t quite figure out why no one listens to you.

        I can tell you have a lot of potential inside you, but believe me, you will never, ever live up to that potential until you’re able to just shut up for five minutes and listen to other people and value what they say. I’m not saying you should listen to me, i’m just some dickhead on the internet, but just open your eyes and ears and maybe you will figure out that the whole world doesn’t fit into one, single paradigm or ideal.

        There are situations where a firearm is not appropriate;where government regulations are needed; where taxes are important; where a social safety-net is necessary, etc.

      • Charles Vincent

        Wow stepping up to ad hominem are we…
        You really should take heed of what you’re saying moron it ironically hypocritical of you.
        But please by all means keep making assumptions about things you don’t know.
        And you’re still dodging the question.

        “There are situations where a firearm is not appropriate;where government regulations are needed; where taxes are important; where a social safety-net is necessary, etc.”
        This is your uninformed opinion.
        I won’t ever “value” what people say when it’s emotionally driven and has no basis in rational discourse , because A) it make the problem worse by clouding the actual issue and B) emotionally driven fixes tend to do more harm than good.

        P.S.
        Nice attempt at trying to obfuscate the fact that you made a piss poor argument by way of ad lapidem and then in this last post you continue with ad hominem and a moral high ground fallacy. Keep it up you’re batting 1000 today.

      • Wayne Johnson

        “But please by all means keep making assumptions about things you don’t know.” Says the guy who assumes that I haven’t read John Locke. I read Lock in High school and in college along with Hobbes and Decarte and Hume and Sartre and a ton of other authors. You are not special because you read literature. Millions of people have read those books. Grow up dude.

      • Charles Vincent

        I see it’s all good when you assume things about me or others but when I dosed you with your own medicine you cry foul and then make like a victim. Take your own advice chief and grow up. Hypocrites like you are funny, rules for thee but not for me… GTFO moron. An actual person who was intelligent wouldn’t stoop to logical fallacies and petty insults as you have done here.

      • Richard Kiep

        I’ve just read many of your comments Charles. I say well said ! With the way this country is declining into idiocracy. I say there’s way more important things going on in the world than a responsible law abiding gun carrying citizen going in a school to pick up his child.

      • marysrn

        You are a really good example of why open carry is dangerous to everyone, including the carrier. Now be a good boy and go back inside and stay there. If you come out to go to the store, leave the gun in the car. You don’t need it in Kroger’s. In fact, you should just stay in the house, PERIOD!

      • Charles Vincent

        Could you be a little less hopolophobic. Carry of a firearm whether open carry or concealed carry is only dangerous to criminals and governments that insist on infringing on people’s rights. You’re not my mother so stop telling me to do anything. In fact if you’re so afraid why don’t you stay in your own house, PERIOD!

      • marysrn

        I stand by my statement. You can use all the big words you want. I am not impressed, and I don’t care whether you care. You are over-sensitive…why is that? Just stay in your domicile and love on your arsenal. This is my last reply to you. You mean nothing to anyone on here.

      • Charles Vincent

        Say the woman who is over sensitive about people who choose to use firearms for self defense. You can stand by what ever you wish, however you cannot infringe on the rights of other. I don’t tolerate ignorance like you’ve managed to display here. Again you don’t get to tell me anything I am free and 21 so bugger off and tend to your own life and stop worrying about how others choose to live theirs instead of being a moral busy body.

      • Pjs8200

        Says the guy who can’t be a man without a gun. Grow up dude.

      • Charles Vincent

        Cool story bruh. Still sore from getting your ass handed to you because you didn’t know what you were talking about I see. Take your own advice and stop acting like a elementary school kid tossing insults.

      • Pjs8200

        Hardly “Bruh” have you done anything of the sort….but sure…keep telling yourself how brilliant you are.

      • Charles Vincent

        Yeah I smell denial all over you chief. Mostly from your childish insults. Keep obfuscating PJ.

      • Hue Collins

        While you’re asking those question, please tell us all how ANY measure of gun control would have stopped the Columbine, Sandy Hooks, etc. shootings. Now — what if an armed dad had happened to be there at the moment the shooters came in? How many fewer dead children would there be?

      • Hue Collins

        Besides that, if someone was hell bent on killing and couldn’t get a gun or guns, perhaps they would just throw in an IED or other explosive and just kill everyone. The fact is – a bad guy with a gun will only be stopped by a good guy with a gun in almost all situations.

      • Shawn Smith

        Just curious, what would have happened if some decent citizen had been breaking the law and happened to have a concealed gun on school grounds the day of the Sandy Hook shooting? Can you imagine the likely train of events?

      • Pjs8200

        Oh I don’t know….got himself shot too?

    • Pat

      You may think Allen is “off his meds”, but on behalf of the entire rest of the modern world, where common sense rules, we would like it if you started taking yours, because definitely, you need meds. Lots of them.

      • Charles Vincent

        There is nothing “common sense” about the idiotic rules you want to force on people GG moron.

        Like I told the other idiot who replied to me with the same sort of fallacy arguments.
        I don’t care what you like/want. You cannot infringe on any rights of any
        individual without Due Process read the 5th amendment to the
        constitution, Voting to restrict a natural right is not due process.

      • Pat

        I know it is useless to argue with someone who cannot hear you for his butt cheeks are blocking his ears. Enjoy the view…

      • Charles Vincent

        You definitely resemble your comment. You are confronted by facts and reply only with childish insults reminiscent of a three year old who didn’t get his way and is throwing a temper tantrum. Grow up and learn to use logic and reason instead of emotional outbursts.

      • Pat

        The only thing you know about facts is how to cherry-pick them. Please… stay in your country and shoot at will.

      • Charles Vincent

        Ah yes ad lapidem continue your tantrum pattie

      • Wayne Johnson

        *psst* he’s a Libertarian…it’s like arguing with a 10 year old.

      • Charles Vincent

        Ahh now you’re being passive aggressive, nice job being a giant tool.

      • noah vail

        if carrying guns were a “natural right” everyone in all countries would have one…in america , unless you are part of a well regulated militia, it’s a privilege, not a right , hence the regulations to register them …of course to the RWNJs anyone with a gun is automatically part of a militia…

      • Charles Vincent

        U.S. V Cruikshank explicitly states the right to bear arms is a natural right and not dependent on the consitution for its existence. DC v Heller expounds on that stating that the right is an individual right unconnected to the participation in a militia, doc vc Palmer goes again stating that the right to selfdefense doesn’t end at the door of ones home but extends to the public places. Your should just stop talking now because you have the mental capacity of a single cell amoeba and shouldn’t be talking here since you quite obviously don’t know you ass from a whole in the ground.

      • Hue Collins

        Keeping AND bearing arms is a right guaranteed by the U.S. Constitution. More and more states are becoming Constitutional Carry states because proper interpretation of the 2nd Amendment demands it. Bearing arms is NOT a privilege. It is a guaranteed right.
        “A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the
        security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms,
        shall not be infringed.”
        The “… right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.”
        Is that not plain enough for you?

      • marysrn

        You do not have the “right” to open carry. That is not a constitutional law, and furthermore, your “right” to open carry ends when you frighten me, thereby preventing my pursuit of happiness…to say nothing of my safety! You are blinded by your gun nuttiness!

      • Charles Vincent

        Actually I do not only does the second amendment say I do but so do several Supreme Court cases on the subject. And in point of fact there are several states that have also enacted open carry and or constitutional carry. Furthermore freedom isn’t safe nor is it free. I don’t give a crap if you’re afraid of an inanimate object, you have no recourse as long as no one harms your person. And the metric for harm is well established, and explained by John Stuart Mill in his book on liberty. I am sorry you’re afraid of your own shadow but your fears do not trump my right to defend myself, my children/loved ones, friends,or any other individual whom is in need of protection.

  • GimmeSomeTruth

    I cannot help myself but to think and ask a few question: What if this man was wearing a turban, for example, while openly carrying his “piece”? Would the results be different? What about if it was a Black person, or a Hispanic person, would the results be different?

    • Kathleen Harris

      The SWAT Team would be outside that school, anxious to gun them down. Even if it is a bb gun, shoot first, ask questions later. Guns make me nervous, I suffer from anxiety and depression and on medication. You can’t tell by looking at me, I am bettin’ I could go into any gunshop, and buy a handgun, no questions asked about the state of my mental health.

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  • Flat Banana

    Allen and whoever this guy is are beginning to become the minority again. Pew Research has shown that more people are favoring Americans right to own guns than controlling their ownership, 52%-46%.
    http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/04/17/despite-lower-crime-rates-support-for-gun-rights-increases/

  • Hue Collins

    I can think of a few shootings, including school shootings, where even the Liberals at the location would have been extremely happy for a good guy with a gun – legally armed – to have been on location. As far as leaving your gun in the car at ANY time, which one among us knows WHEN an actual need will arise to have a firearm? Does anyone here know? The fact is that NO ONE knows when someone is going to attempt to rob, shoot, kill, rape or whatever their goal might be. Ask a few folks, even Liberals who are anti gun, if they’re happy a good guy with a gun was available in any of the situations where it has been needed. But back to the other question; can anyone here tell us exactly WHEN a gun will be needed?

  • Kim Serrahn

    I just love a good old fashion common sense debate. It always bring out the best in the open carry advocates. They start out pleasant enough but when the first person calls them out for their use of words like moron and idiot, that’s when things really heat up. Face it, there will never be an open debate about guns with open carry people. I understand there is a new definition of the word “militia”, no long will it mean a group but it now means a single individual. So those that want to talk about guns, i have one word for you DON’T cause they ain’t gonna listen anyway and they’ll just call you names.

    • Joe Bailey

      Sort of like this…”When it comes to gun fanatics, I’ve pretty much lost most of my patience in dealing with them. I’ve just reached my limit with the overall idiocy of many of these people. In this country we can’t even begin to have a common sense debate about gun violence because there are literally millions of idiots who don’t believe guns have anything to do with it.”.Oh wait that was the opening couple sentences of this article.
      That really screws up your whole point doesn’t it.
      Read more at: https://www.forwardprogressives.com/cenk-uygur-shreds-open-carry-lunatic-wants-bring-gun-daughters-school-video/