Christianity vs. Creationism vs. Evolution – A Real Discussion

christianity-scienceI’m sure by now most of you have heard about the debate Bill Nye had with Ken Ham pertaining to which theory is more credible, evolution or creationism.  Though it’s a bit long, I’d highly recommend you check it out if you haven’t already.  While it’s unlikely either man convinced anyone to change their minds, it was a great example of someone using proven scientific research against someone who essentially said, “I have the Bible, that’s my proof.”

Oh, that and, “Well, you weren’t there to see that bedrock created – so how do you know how old it is?”

But this debate did lead me to having debates with other people about this issue.

As most people know, I’m a Christian.  That being said, I don’t put much stock in the Bible.  While I see it as a great tool at times, and I do believe some truth comes from within it, I just can’t say, “This book is 100% factually accurate” considering how many times it’s been translated (or probably rewritten) over centuries.

Bill Nye actually used the same example I’ve used often, the childhood game of “telephone.”  You know, where you take something, whisper it in someone’s ear, then it goes around the room until it gets to the last person.  It’s at that point you see how different the final message was from the original as it got distorted, with each person telling it slightly differently than the person who told it to them.

That’s kind of how I view the Bible.  In a lot of the text I don’t see divine knowledge, I see human nature.  Homosexuality and women’s rights are great examples.

Being that the Bible was undoubtedly translated over time by men, it’s not at all shocking that women are clearly depicted as secondary to men and homosexuality is “icky and gross.”  If you take out religion, you still see these traits within many men.  I’ve met men who don’t support homosexuality because they think it’s “gross.”  They’re not religious, they just don’t like it.

And I don’t think I have to convince many people of the fact that for centuries (even in the United States) women have been treated as lesser than men.  That’s also not a religious thing as you see this in many other cultures, most of which aren’t Christian based.

So when it comes to the Bible, I just see a whole lot of the ignorance of men instead of the “hand of God.”  Again, not that I discount everything, but I sure wouldn’t take it at its literal word.

Which brings me to my point: Christianity vs. Creationism vs. Evolution.

As a Christian, I believe in evolution.  It sounds like an oxymoron to say that, but it’s true.  Though I’m still not sure what I believe about our exact origins, or how we became to be who we are today, I think the evidence is pretty clear that we’ve evolved over time.

When people talk about the creation of the Earth from a creationist perspective, they speak in literal terms of 6,000 years and God creating the planet in 6, 24 hour days.

Seriously?  God had a watch?

Who’s to say a “day” meant 24 hours?  Maybe a “day” was 800 million years.  Maybe a “day” was a billion years.  Maybe God had a plan for human existence, but chose to develop our specifics over millions of years through evolution.  Why would any of that seem far-fetched?

We assume that God is all-seeing and all-knowing, yet we see the horrific things that happen every day on Earth.  Why does God allow for that?  If God meant for everything to be clean, clear, precise and perfect from the get-go, why is everything so messed up and confusing now?  Maybe God’s plan was to set the seeds for human existence, knowing that it would evolve and grow into what we are today.

Maybe God wants us to evolve into the beings we’re supposed to be instead of simply making us that way.

Honestly, I have no idea.  If I did, I’d be quite the famous person.  These are just ideas I bring up during these kinds of debates.  As a Christian, I cannot and will not ignore science.  But also as a Christian who believes in science, it’s a much more complex issue than those who simply believe in one or the other.

Creationists simply believe literally what the Bible tells them.  I see these people more like a cult than a religion.  You really do have to be borderline (if not completely) insane to see all the evidence we have on this planet and honestly believe that the Earth is only 6,000 years old.

And Bill Nye’s debate with Ken Ham only enforced my belief of that.  Ham is seen as an “expert” in creationism, yet he produced not one solid fact to support anything he said.  Like I’ve said before, his “proof” literally consisted of one thing, “Well, the Bible tells me…”

Yet, he can’t prove who or exactly when the original Bible was written.

So he dismisses all of the scientific evidence which contradicts his creationist theory because, as he often said, “You weren’t there, so how do you know?”  Yet he wasn’t there when the Bible was written so how can he know?

It’s like Bill Nye said to him several times, science (based on theory) can predict future events – that’s what proves its validity.  Creationism can’t replicate or accurately predict anything.

But as a Christian, I believe you can believe in God and believe in science.

After all, no matter what you believe in – the same question still can’t be answered or proven: How exactly did we all get here?

If you believe in God, well, who or what created God?  Then who created that which created God?  If you believe in the Big Bang Theory, well, what created that?  Something had to exist before that, right?  Who or what made that?  If the universe is expanding, where’s it expanding to?  What’s on the other side of the edge of the universe?

There’s seemingly endless questions we can ask that nobody really has a concrete answer to.  Theories, yes – definitive answers, no.  It’s absolutely fascinating to me.

Of course I didn’t get as deep into this discussion as I possibly could.  Many books could be wrote discussing this in great detail (and many books already have been written discussing it as well).

But when someone tells me you can’t be a Christian and believe in science, I say that’s nonsense.

What if God created science, or science created God?

There are so many questions that are so vast most of our minds can’t even comprehend the scope of them, let alone answer them.

Though I think it’s safe to say one thing is for certain – the Earth isn’t 6,000 years old.  And it’s a bit terrifying that tens of millions of people actually believe that it is.

Allen Clifton

Allen Clifton is a native Texan who now lives in the Austin area. He has a degree in Political Science from Sam Houston State University. Allen is a co-founder of Forward Progressives and creator of the popular Right Off A Cliff column and Facebook page. Be sure to follow Allen on Twitter and Facebook, and subscribe to his channel on YouTube as well.


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