Colorado Republican: ‘Maybe A Good Thing’ Aurora Shooter Had a 100-Round Magazine

Bernie-HerpinEven though I support our Second Amendment rights, I’ll never understand “gun nuts.”  While I own two guns, I don’t have some unhealthy infatuation with them.  I meet some people who are literally obsessed with guns.  And I don’t mean in a historical context like a collector.  I mean in the “I’ve got this big bad killing machine, come and mess with me punk!” Dirty Harry type of idiotic mentality.

I also laugh at the NRA-fueled notion of, “The only way to deal with a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun.”  How draconian can you get?  Didn’t our society already have the days of the Wild Wild West?  You know, where everyone walked around holstered, shooting out their differences in our city streets?

And let’s be real, more guns don’t make us safer.  If more guns made a society safe, being that the United States leads the world in gun ownership, we’d be the safest country on the planet when it comes to gun violence.

Except, it’s the complete opposite.  We lead the world when it comes to gun violence.  It would seem that more guns make us less safe.

Which brings me to a Colorado hearing concerning overturning the state’s ban on magazines with a capacity of more than 15-rounds, where Colorado State Senator Bernie Herpin actually suggested that it might have been a good thing that the Aurora shooter James Holmes had a 100-round magazine.

No, seriously, that’s what he said.

Democratic State Senator Irene Aguilar said, “My understanding is that James Holmes bought his 100-round capacity magazine legally.  So in fact, this law would have stopped James Holmes from purchasing a 100-round magazine.  I wondered if you agree with me.”

State Senator Herpin responded by saying, “Perhaps, James Holmes would not have been able to purchase a 100-round magazine.  As it turned out, that was maybe a good thing that he had a 100-round magazine, because it jammed. If he had instead had four, five, six 15-round magazines, no telling how much damage he could have done until a good guy with a gun showed up.”

Yes, that’s a Colorado state senator admitting that more rounds equals more potential damage, yet advocating for the overturn of a law banning magazines with capacities of more than 15-rounds because, you know, a 100-round magazine happened to jam in the instance of the Aurora shooting.

If anything, Mr. Herpin’s statement makes for a great argument for the banning of all semi-automatic weapons.  After all, if every round has to manually be made ready to fire, wouldn’t that be the safest alternative to prevent mass shootings?

Because the truth is, if James Holmes didn’t have any kind of magazine capacity (say all he had was a shotgun or bolt-action rifle), would he have been able to inflict the harm that he did?

Hell, would he have planned his shooting at all?  Could one argue that access to semi-automatic weaponry empowered him to plan such a disgusting act?  But let’s not let common sense get in the way of some good right-wing rhetoric.

Though it’s completely believable that a Republican would make this argument, it’s still absolutely ridiculous to base an argument that James Holmes having access to a 100-round magazine was a good thing because in this instance it happened to jam.

But this does serve as a great example of just how asinine many of these “guns rights” lunatics can be when it comes to “protecting their rights” against those of us who actually choose to use common sense.

Allen Clifton

Allen Clifton is a native Texan who now lives in the Austin area. He has a degree in Political Science from Sam Houston State University. Allen is a co-founder of Forward Progressives and creator of the popular Right Off A Cliff column and Facebook page. Be sure to follow Allen on Twitter and Facebook, and subscribe to his channel on YouTube as well.

Comments

Facebook comments

  • Charles Vincent

    Mr Clifton the beta mags(100rnd capacity) are notorious for feed jams like the Aurora shooter had that forced him to switch to the shotgun and pistol. You really need to learn more about firearms before you talk about them.

    • Charles Vincent

      FD Brian to Charles Vincent an hour ago

      http://www DOT cheaperthandirt DOT com if these are the same mags, seems there are a high percentage of people who disagree with you Charles.
      re-posted for you Brian you cannot post links here they delete them. also I went back to an article and it turns out I misread the portion of the article it delineates between old drum mags and beta mags. I stand corrected.

      • FD Brian

        gracious.

  • MLR

    Why do progressives always feel the need to start with “I support our 2nd Amendment rights” any time they talk about gun rights? LOL, we all support the 2nd Amendment but the fact that progressives need to point that out tells me that the regressive nut jobs on the right have successfully vilified anyone who just wants sensible gun laws and background checks. These have nothing to do with the 2nd Amendment. Background checks do not infringe on the 2nd Amendment but let’s face it, some people shouldn’t have access to guns. Let’s not let these people make us feel like progressives don’t support the 2nd Amendment. What we don’t support are a bunch of f***ckn idiots with guns acting recklessly and shooting people over loud music or texting at a theatre and the movie hasn’t even started yet! Yeah, some people should not have guns period!

    • FD Brian

      first off, people need to stop using the 2nd amendment as an excuse to NOT ban assault weapons. We already ban certain certain arms that can be made available to the citizens of this country and most people would agree that it makes sense to ban things like: grenade launchers, stinger missiles, land mines etc. So if you agree with that then just say you don’t agree with banning assault weapons because you don’t think it’s a good idea and not because the 2nd amendment says you can’t infringe on those rights.

      • Charles Vincent

        Heller disagrees with you on this handguns are a class of firearm as are semi auto sporting rifles Heller already overturned the DC handgun ban and if you read the opinion they talk about weapons with military use being what the constitution refers to under the second amendment which would most likely invalidate the NFA as well when you look at the common use part of the opinion.

      • white trash religious teaparty

        mr Vincent,,,,,,,,,,,,,, here is an easy one that all intelligent humans can answer with OUT a spin,,,,,ready? what is YOUR opinion of backround checks for all firearm purchases at all selling places ( including private)?

      • Charles Vincent

        I believe that the Brady bill is as far as background checks should ever go. There are things that can be done with that law to tighten up the loose ends. I do not believe in background checks for private individuals.

      • white trash religious teaparty

        ok! a straight answer,allow me to inquire: why not private sales? seems to me that’s where most trouble can arise

      • Charles Vincent

        Private sales are ~2-4% of all gun sales nation wide and of those the big majority are family to family sales/gifts, followed by friend to friend sales. If you look at statistics most gun used in crimes had been reported stolen by the owner, at least the ones I have seen. If you throw in the mass shooters only one (Adam Lanza) failed to pass a background check, every other shooter including the naval yard shooter passed background checks when the purchased the firearms. If you want to throw the definition of commerce in private sales are not considered commerce and not subject to government regulation under the ICC. When I get home I will endeavor to find the gun sales and guns used in crimes statistics.

      • Kevin Nivek Murphy

        Most people would realize that this is where the criminal element get’s their guns, private, unmonitored sales. They only report a small percentage of sales, to low risk clients, But don’t mention the 20 .380’s they sold for $400 a pop in the local ghetto’s. All gun sales need to go through stores. They are kill tools, not toasters, sewing machines, or cars. Gun owners need to stop acting like spoiled brats, and realize that if you want a kill tool, you are gonna have to jump through some good hoops and hurdles. Laws are way, way too lax now. Dare I say, things are worse now for weapons availability, as far as anyone being able to get something they should not own.

      • white trash religious teaparty

        tell chuckie Vincent that,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, as that is an excellent observation ( sadly: FOX “news” and the NRA will want u silenced)

      • Charles Vincent

        criminals either steal the firearm or they buy one that has been stolen by someone else.

        http://gun DOT laws DOT com/illegal-guns

        http://www DOT firearmsid DOT com/feature%20articles/0900guic/guns%20used%20in%20crime DOT htm

        Whats important in this study from California is the amount of the poorly labeled assault weapons the last graph shows as do others that handguns are used in far more killings/crimes than the assault rifles gun grabbers are so afraid of.

        http://oag DOT ca DOT gov/sites/all/files/pdfs/publications/Firearms_Report_10 DOT pdf

        this link shows the breakdown od murder by weapon type;

        http://www DOT fbi DOT gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2011/crime-in-the-u.s.-2011/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-8