The Daily Show Rips ‘Idiocy’ of the Increasing Number of Liberals Who Oppose Vaccinations (Video)

vaccines-daily-showI’ve never really written anything about people who cling to the routinely debunked myths that vaccines are dangerous for children.  To be honest, until the last couple of years I thought these people had faded off into oblivion as most crackpots tend to do once their asinine theories get disproven.

But I was clearly wrong.

Not only have these people not gone away, their ignorance about vaccines is now leading to increases in diseases that were otherwise thought to be mostly preventable by children getting their scheduled vaccinations.

Diseases like measles, polio, whooping cough and others have all seen substantial increases as it seems more and more people aren’t vaccinating their children due to the misinformation about vaccines.

And while liberals always like to poke fun at conservatives for denying scientific facts, it’s actually in liberal states like California, New York and Oregon where reports of these diseases are rapidly increasing.

The Daily Show had a fantastic segment last night where they absolutely crushed these anti-vaccine advocates.  Samantha Bee sat down with infectious disease expert Dr. Paul Offit who stated, “The good news about vaccines is that they’re not a belief system, they’re an evidence based system.”

Bee also interviewed anti-vaccine activist Sarah Pope, who ridiculously said, “You can line up the doctors from here to down the block refuting me, but I’m not going to change my mind.”

I always love when someone who’s not a doctor, or an expert in medicine whatsoever, tells the overwhelming percentages of doctors and scientists that they know more about medicine than people who are literally experts in the fields of science and medicine.

It’s the same idiocy you see with climate change deniers.  Someone who’s dedicated their life to studying climate science, who has years and years of research proving that it’s caused by man, is completely dismissed by someone who thinks Sean Hannity knows more than the scientist who’s dedicated their life to this scientific research.

I could almost excuse ignorance if we lived in a society where information wasn’t easy to come by and the medical opinion on vaccines was about 60/40 – but that’s not the case.

Just like with climate change, the overwhelming consensus with doctors and scientists is that vaccines are good for children and indisputable statistical information proves this by showing the rapid decline in these diseases once vaccines were introduced.

But to most of these people, just like with those who deny climate change, no amount of scientific evidence will ever change their minds because they’re already made up.

And just like with those who deny climate change, those who cling to their ignorance about vaccines (resulting in an increase of these diseases being found in our society) will ultimately result in everyone paying a price.

Watch the clip below via Comedy Central:


Allen Clifton

Allen Clifton is a native Texan who now lives in the Austin area. He has a degree in Political Science from Sam Houston State University. Allen is a co-founder of Forward Progressives and creator of the popular Right Off A Cliff column and Facebook page. Be sure to follow Allen on Twitter and Facebook, and subscribe to his channel on YouTube as well.

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  • republic84

    Wait until the first few kids die from polio. Its a horrific shame that its going to take suffering and death of children in order for these parents to open their eyes and see how important vaccines are. I certainly hope that for every child that contracts a disease that could have been prevented by vaccination the parents go to prison for child abuse and endangerment.

    • Laura Bartlett

      I’m old enough to remember seeing a person in an iron lung from polio when I was 5 or 6. (I was visiting an Aunt in a nursing home) I have mild cerebral palsy and experienced the surgeries and relearning to walk that having CP entails. Now I don’t regret or get angry about being disabled…that’s just something that happened cause I was born breech; didn’t breathe for 4 minutes and the Dr had to do mouth to mouth to get me breathing. But if I found out I was in this body because I didn’t get a simple inoculation! Pissed wouldn’t cover my rage. And the but getting polio or whatever is God’s will theory …don’t go there either. We were born with problem solving brains and if you leave whoever open to getting a preventable disease you opened that door to illness no one else.

  • SWay

    Wow, you’re just really turning into one of those Republicans you hate so much. Or at least, you’re picking up all their bad habits.
    Let’s try to have an adult conversation about this and see how far you get.
    1. You’re no scientist either. While we’re on that subject, neither are Samantha Bee or Jon Stewart (even though I happen to love Jon Stewart). Your opinions on this subject are no more valid than anyone else’s. I’m apparently weird because I only accept scientific refutation from actual scientists, and then only when I see their list of sponsors and their research methodologies.
    2. You want to compare the vaccination debate to the climate science debate? Let’s do that. But instead of your false analogies, let’s do it on an apples-to-apples basis, shall we?
    2a. Conservative sez: “Scientists funded by ExxonMobil say that ExxonMobil products are perfectly safe and cause no harm. I will uncritically believe this and consume the maximum amount of carbon-emitting fuels that my budget will allow at every available opportunity.” In response, you revile and dehumanize them. Liberal sez: “Scientists funded by GlaxoSmithKline say that GlaxoSmithKline products are perfectly safe and cause no harm. I will uncritically believe this and stab my child with every single needle a person in a white coat brings to me at every available opportunity.” You put them on a pedestal and kneel to them five times a day. Because consistency.
    2b. The money in climate science is on the side of the deniers. There are the extractors and the refiners and the transporters and the retailers and whomever else I’m not thinking of. That gives extra strength and credence to their opposition. The money in vaccines is all on the pro-vaccination side. In case you’re not getting the message, pro-GlaxoSmithKline scientists get GlaxoSmithKline money. Anti-GlaxoSmithKline scientists get nothing. If pediatricians stop forcing tiny patients to return every few months for more stabbings, pediatricians go out of business. If you think scientists and doctors are above good ol’ fashioned money-grubbing, then you’re the “idiot”. And you don’t many scientists or doctors.
    2c. Plausible or not, climate change denialist scientists actually do science. Very few doctors get involved in actual studies about vaccines. Their information comes from people who got paid to produce that information. Their opinion may be more valid than yours, but garbage-in garbage-out has the same force of gravity, regardless of education levels.
    2d. Climate science has dramatically more studies and more study participants than vaccine science, especially since it intersects with so many disciplines. Your “statistics” on the “majority of the scientific community” tripe is false equivalence.
    3. People not in science think that science is this spotlessly white profession full of quiet little people in their clean rooms just happily doing science all day and oohing and aahing over the discoveries of others. In truth, it is as catty and petty as every other profession. Research scientists run labs with an iron fist, and petty little peons will joyfully “scrub” results to please their overlords. Data that fits preconceived notions is magnified while conflicting data is minimized. Attempting to publish something that goes against popular thought will meet with resistance before anyone even looks at the science. Publishing something that reinforces popular thought will occur with minimal scrutiny. This has been true since the dawn of science. Religion haters love to climb all over the Catholics about Galileo while intentionally ignoring that it was the scientific community that got the charges brought against him, designed the prosecution strategy, and persuaded the Vatican to get involved. van Leeuwenhoek suggested that washing your hands before working on a patient might be a good thing, and was expelled and his career ended by the scientific community. Alfred Wegener thought that maybe the continents sit on plates and internal Earth forces cause those plates to move, and he was forced to recant and also summarily denied participation in the scientific community. Etcetera. And yet, you folks somehow believe that “science” is somehow different today, despite the fact that it isn’t.
    4. Not all vaccines are created equal. The rabies and smallpox vaccinations have a 100% effectiveness rate when used as directed and appear to have no side effects, therefore non-scientists believe this must universally apply to all vaccines. It doesn’t. Some others appear to, such as the polio vaccine. However, most people who contract polio will only ever have flu-like symptoms. We don’t test everyone with flu-like symptoms for polio, so we won’t ever know. We do know that a number of vaccines have a much lower efficacy rating. But, when someone contracts one of these diseases, instead of accepting the possibility that a specific vaccination isn’t very effective or that the virus mutated, you just look for the nearest unvaccinated person to lynch. “Herd immunity” doesn’t just require a certain vaccination saturation level, it also requires a certain efficacy level of the vaccine. We just don’t know if it’s there for some of these things. That’s why my B.S. detector pings pretty hard when I notice that they never report vaccination saturation levels among these “outbreaks”. They just put up their usual picture of Jenny McCarthy and tell everyone to be outraged. And, on cue, you are.
    5. There is exactly one product category in the United States whose manufacturers have full immunity even when damages can be proved beyond a reasonable doubt. I assume I don’t have to tell you what it is. That means that even if you can get every scientist in the world to prove that your child had a fatal reaction to a vaccine that wasn’t properly prepared, you cannot sue the manufacturer. All you get is a tiny payout from the global fund. So, if a manufacturer just sort of forgets to deactivate a virus and you get the disease, aw, so sorry. But not really. And yes, it’s happened.
    6. Many states mandate vaccination schedules, with penalties for non-compliance. There is no way to pick and choose among the vaccines that you know have a good track record against those that don’t.
    7. Because of the preceding facts, the vaccine manufacturers have no incentive to “waste” time with testing efficacy or safety of their products. Would you get into a Ford if Ford had the same protections? Why not? Why are you not running articles screaming at people who claim that cars aren’t perfectly safe?
    8. They don’t do efficacy studies on small children. Quit lying and saying that they do. These studies are done across the entire population. Want to know why, if you delay vaccines until age 5, you don’t get the same number of vaccines as a kid who starts at birth? It’s because they don’t know if it works or not.
    9. Ever read the handouts they give you on the vaccines you’re sticking your kids with? Ever notice that there are some pretty dire warnings on there? Ever stop to think that it wasn’t the anti-vaxxers who put them there? Or do you blindly trust a comedian’s word on this subject? Have you ever asked for the population distribution, broken down by age, for these nasty effects and gotten the, “We don’t know, now hold that child still” response?
    10. Have you ever held a 3-month-old child dying of meningitis within days of getting a DTP shot? If so, was it yours? I find your “my kid survived so screw you” mentality to be very Paul Ryan of you.

    I’m asking you to take a step back from the B.S. autism scare and realize that vaccines actually do harm and sometimes kill children. They print the warnings out and hand them to you right in the doctor’s office. Stop being a dick and realize that some of these people are actual parents with actual fears based on actual evidence and you’re just being a dismissive Republican about the whole thing. Just because it didn’t happen to you doesn’t mean it’s not devastating to those that are affected by it. And no, I’m not anti-vaccine. I’m pro-reason.

    • Oldfart

      Despite all your ranting, you are still just another vaccine denier with no evidence to back up your bullshit. But you have learned your catechism well.

      • SWay

        I am not a vaccine denier. You might try retaking third grade English, paying special attention to “reading all the words”.

      • Leviathan

        “Very few doctors get involved in actual studies about vaccines” This is a completely stupid assertion from a completely ignorant person. You are totally anti vaccine. You’d argue the colour of shite.

      • suburbancuurmudgeon

        EVERYTHING has a risk. NOTHING is perfectly safe. Those of us in the real world accept those risks. I’m old enough to have gotten the smallpox vaccination. I got hives from a DPT immunization when I was 5. I got the swine-flu shot in1976 when everyone was going ape shit over Guillian-Barre syndrome. My kids got vaccinated and my grandkids got vaccinated.

      • Charles Vincent

        I say we should have the government dispense with all warning labels and let natural selection take its course.

    • petengina

      Numbers don’t lie. When you see illness & disease which was all but completely eradicated making a comeback, specifically in children people have decided not to vaccinate. The evidence is there in front of you.

      • SWay

        Correlation is not causation. There are a multitude of environmental issues going on that could be potentially contributing to the ease of transmissibility of several diseases, such as weather changes that increase carrier insect and animal activity, weather changes that result in mild winters which in turn increase human socialization, decrease in water supply quality, decrease in food supply quality, increased immigration/travel, increased import of everything from more impacted regions of the world, etc.
        Yes, I have no doubt that the autism-freaked nutters that completely refuse to ever vaccinate their children is contributing, but no one has bothered to do any actual research on the subject. Reparsing a list of numbers under the rosy glow of preconceived notions is not “research”.

        And it’s not happening “specifically in children people have decided not to vaccinate”. It is happening to lots of people. More than can be explained away by simple yammering over what amounts to a comparatively minor decline in overall herd immunity.

      • suburbancuurmudgeon

        Baloney. Kids got vaccinated en masse, disease rates went down. They stopped getting vaccinated, disease rates went up. Has nothing to do with weather, socialization and so on. Measles, mumps, polio, smallpox, diphtheria, tetanus, H flu B, hepatitis B, all potentially preventable. My dog gets a Lyme disease vaccine but there isn’t one for humans. A family friend has been devastated by Lyme disease.

      • Leviathan

        we have seen the effect of mass vaccination, diseases dropped to record lows. We have now seen the effect of growing antivax paranoia – same diseases are going up again. I suppose that is because suddenly the drinking water is bad, the horses are crapping in the streets and there is mass starvation? Grow up and stop reading daft blogs.

      • BackSeatJesus

        Yes, everyone knows there is scientific fact that when children don’t get vaccines, they are susceptible to getting and spreading those diseases. None of this proves anything either direction about vaccines causing other problems like autism..

    • Rod Nyctophylliac O

      Wow. Very valid points! THANK YOU. People are fn’ sheeple. I’m not all against vaccines but yes they can cause harm. People need to know what the hell they are injecting into themselves or their children.

      • suburbancuurmudgeon

        Everything has risks. Only a fool would think there are none.

      • Leviathan

        they also need to know what the hell happens when they don’t. Unfortunately the last two generations were brought up in the nirvana of strong herd immunity and have never seen (much less had) one or more of their children die from diphtheria, pertussis, tetanus, poliomyelitis and sometimes measles. They imagine that all the stories about blind and deaf kids from maternal rubella are a Big Farmer conspiracy. Wanton and deliberate ignorance is the worst kind. Most people understand “odds” like “the cancer has a 90% chance of killing you and my surgery a 10% chance. What do you choose?” but when it’s “polio has a 1 in 100 chance of paralysing or killing you, or this vaccine has a 1 in 25 million chance of producing a severe reaction which may damage you” for some reason they get all confused and paranoid. It’s like they flunked out on maths in grade six.

    • Kyle

      tldr

    • ampatriot

      There is a lot of science done without funds from big pharma (or small). If you do not know that you have no place in this discussion.
      And I am a scientist. If you want to see my methodology and funding go to any of the scientific journals I have published in. I am sure you don’t even know you can do that.
      My conclusion- you are anti-reason, scientifically ignorant person who is more likely than the average to heart his/hers kids.

      • Leviathan

        Dude, there are always idiots like this SWay twat who think reading blogs makes them a scientist. Ironically, this person wades in not conscious of the irony that (s)he is the very person lampooned so accurately on the clip. I’m a doctor. It’s always amusing listening to the misinformed and ignorant telling you your job.

    • Cassandra Nancy Lea

      Not one solid reference to back up your rants.

  • Bradful

    This is another LOBBYING problem causing deception to become so rampant that innovations are hampered BY PATENT! Trust has to earned again on too many levels to embarrass others for real care…

    • Leviathan

      dude wot

  • Thisisclarke

    As someone who does not have kids and isn’t really decided one way or the other, I have to say there is some convincing evidence out there that vaccines simply appear to have worked because of contemporaneous improvements in drinking water, hygiene, and sanitation. And I still don’t understand why the mercury content must be so high. I may be an ignorant, panicky fool, but I’m not a chemist and have never seen an explanation as to why that high of a mercury content is safe in a single dose.

    • Jack Simpson

      They don’t use mercury anymore, anti-vaxxers lie and say its still included. The only reason they removed the minute amount that was there in the first place was not because it caused harm, but because anti-vaxxers used it to lie and scare people about vaccines.

      • strayaway

        The FDA claims that some vaccines still contain Thimerosal as a preservative. The State of Minmesota says, ” Since 2001, all routinely recommended vaccines (except for the flu vaccine) for administration to young children in the U.S. contain no thimerosal or only trace amounts. Minnesota also says, “Vaccines with trace amounts of thimerosal are labeled “preservative-free.” Vaccines that do not contain any thimerosal are labeled “thimerosal-free.””

        Thimerosal is 50% Mercury by weight. Some vaccines have substituted aluminum as a preservative.

      • jackbrucesimpson

        The FDA and CDC removed thimerosal from vaccines in 1999. I’d prefer an actual reference than you claiming a misspelled state said something. Regardless, even when it was in vaccines, there has never been any evidence to support that it did any harm, and it was only removed because anti-vaxxer idiots used it to scare people by screaming about “MERCURY”.

      • strayaway

        I provided the links you requested. Links are discouraged at this website. Consequently, I will try again; this time not using links.

        My information about the FDA came off of two sources; the FDA website and a State of Minnesota website. I did hit the right keys the second and third time I wrote Minnesota but thank you for your weighty spelling critique. The actual references you would prefer without the forbidden links –
        FDA Vaccines, Blood, & Biologics Thimerosal in Vaccines
        MiNNesota Departmant of Health Thirmerosal and Childhood Vaccinations: What You Should Know

      • jackbrucesimpson

        Ok, I found it. You do realise that thimerosal is still commonly used in the developing world, so in the same way that a factory would have to warn you that there’s a tiny chance that nuts could be in your chocolate, the FDA has to alert people that there’s a possibility that a minute trace amount of thimerosal could be in the vaccines?

        However, when the worry about thimerosal being dangerous made as much sense as worrying apples would give you arsenic poisoning to begin with, and because of the fear-mongering they removed that so all that is left is the possibility that a tiny amount may be there. Again, can you tell me why this is any more significant than arguing that there’s water in a vaccine?

      • strayaway

        I was responding to your incorrect statement “The FDA and CDC removed thimerosal from vaccines in 1999.” You then asked for references which I provided. I never was trying to answer whether having mercury in any amount “is any more significant than arguing that there’s water in a vaccine?” But since you asked this new question, I’m not a scientist so I can only reflect on what scientists say although there are some minor disagreement among them. More important though, parents have to decide that although I am on record here as generally going along with the standard vaccination regime.

      • jackbrucesimpson

        You never provided any links, it was only until your second comment that you provided enough information on the sources you’d drawn from to actually find what you were referring to. Technically the FDA did remove thimerosal as a component of vaccines, you’ve pulled me up on the technicality that the FDA have said that in theory it is possible that some vaccines in existence MAY have absolutely minute amounts of thimerosal in them.

        “although there are some minor disagreement among them” – can you please refer to a study in an actual scientific journal rather than speculations? Also, the difficulty with this issue is the fact that a lot of parents think 5 minutes on google is the equivalent to a degree in immunology.

    • Sol Invictus

      1. There is no mercury in vaccines.
      2. Improvements in drinking water, hygiene, and sanitation are not responsible for the total eradication of smallpox. Vaccines are.

  • jenni s

    Its not the same. Lose your kid after 9 shots and then write this article. A few of us liberals have lost our babies. Not anti-vax just anti 9 at one time.

    • ampatriot

      And you know that the kid died due to the vaccination how?
      “A few of us liberals have lost our babies.”
      Between 1992 and 1994 there was 1 death POTENTIALLY caused by a vaccine. These vaccines must really hate the liberals.

  • Michael Geoghegan

    be they conservative or liberal anyone who ignores science is a danger to themselves and others

  • Jim Bean

    Liberalism is really nothing more than the habit of contradicting something/anything that falls into the category of ‘conventional wisdom’ for the purpose of promoting one’s self as smarter than most.

    • David2020

      A conservative is a man who just sits and thinks.

      Mostly sits.

  • strayaway

    There was a recent outbreak of disease among Amish who were not getting vaccinated. They realized they made a mistake and began vaccinating all their children. I’ve never thought of the anti-vaccination movement as being particularly liberal.

    From a conversation with a local Walgreen pharmacist: he said that he fully vaccinated his children but required that the vaccinations be broken up; not combined vaccinations. It means more trips to the doctor but his concern was with overwhelming his children’s immune systems. While a pharmacist could be expected to be a perfectionist in such matters, it is less likely that the rest of us would be as diligent about making more trips to the doctor’s office. The combined shots therefore probably provide the best societal disease protection even if there are more anecdotal stories about autism.

    Another small compromise would be to adopt Scandinavian vaccination schedules which have similar numbers of vaccinations but stretched over a longer time period. Scandinavians live longer so their science can’t be all bad.

  • Noose Newsome

    problem is that long line of Doctors and Scientists can be bought.

  • Spammeplez

    When a parent decides to provide their child the same medical care of those in 3rd world countries then so be it.