Darrell Issa Proven to be a Fraud: Full Transcripts Reveal No IRS White House Conspiracy

issaI know I can’t be the only one who wondered why, as time went on, you heard less and less from prominent Republicans about these asinine conspiracy theories that tried to link the IRS “scandal” to the White House.

And just like with the Benghazi emails, the full transcripts have revealed that there was absolutely no testimony or evidence that supports the right-wing lie that the White House was behind these actions.

Darrell Issa knew this.  That’s why he continued to delay the release of these transcripts, which decimated every conspiracy Republicans have tried to levy against the President.

Yesterday’s release from Representative Elijah Cummings contains the full transcripts that show the White House had absolutely nothing to do with this issue in the Cincinnati office.

Not only do these transcripts prove that Obama had nothing to do with the issue, the gentleman being quested is a self-professed “conservative Republican” who made it clear there was no White House involvement.

Yet, even though these transcripts are nearly two weeks old, there were still comments by Republicans (who knew what the transcripts contained) that continued to push these conspiracy theories against the White House—even after this testimony had taken place.

Even the myth that there was an overwhelming number of “conservative groups” targeted is a lie.  This graph shows that only 96 of the 298 groups listed were “conservative groups,” totaling about one-third within this investigation.  But if you heard it from Republicans, this was some kind of direct attack against the Republican Party, even though there’s no evidence supporting that whatsoever.

In fact, there’s ample evidence shown that Issa knowingly tried to conceal specific pieces of evidence from being released, while allowing specific comments to be “leaked” by his staff, perpetuating his lies that the White House was behind this.

What Issa did was take a piece of the transcript detailing why information on some of the groups was sent to the Washington office (the IRS is, of course, based in Washington) and spin that to make it seem as if the Cincinnati office was sending this information to Washington to be reported to President Obama.

Basically, Issa knew there was nothing, continued to push a lie—helped build the lie—all while continuing the false conspiracy that somehow President Obama was ordering the IRS to target conservative groups.

Just like with Benghazi, the real story is much less eventful than what Republicans want Americans to believe.  And just like with Benghazi, the possible criminal activity doesn’t come from the White House, but within the Republican Party and their concealment of factual information which easily debunks the lies which they were using to mislead the American public.

Because Benghazi’s “conspiracy” really stems from who edited the initial emails that the GOP used to build their attack on President Obama and Hillary Clinton, while the IRS “conspiracy” seems to be about why Issa continued to perpetuate a lie that he knew had no support.

But the truth is, they don’t care that they lied about both events.  Their point wasn’t to be accurate with these accusations. Their point was to push them as much as possible, for as long as possible, to put the information out there knowing that retractions are often far less accepted than the initial lie—and not as easily remembered by the general public.

Many people have grown to distrust Obama over this IRS situation, and while these new revelations will calm some of them down, Republicans know that for many they’ll never hear the news about the lie these transcripts revealed.

Because many of them only watch Fox News, which will just flat-out lie about this story and continue to make Obama out to be behind this in some way.  At the same time, many other Americans will simply have their mind made up and this new information won’t be something they’re interested in reading.

As with most things, Republicans don’t care about being factual or honest—all they care about is muddying the water just enough to create doubt.

They did it with the the stimulus bill, the debt ceiling, Obama’s tax plan, the Affordable Care Act, Benghazi and now the IRS.  They simply lie about, manipulate and distort so much information that at the end of the day most Americans don’t know who to believe.

And by creating that doubt, they’ve accomplished their goal.

The Republican Party: Where the truth is whatever lies you can make people believe.

Allen Clifton

Allen Clifton is a native Texan who now lives in the Austin area. He has a degree in Political Science from Sam Houston State University. Allen is a co-founder of Forward Progressives and creator of the popular Right Off A Cliff column and Facebook page. Be sure to follow Allen on Twitter and Facebook, and subscribe to his channel on YouTube as well.

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  • Edward Bolduc

    knew it was a repuck witch hunt from the beginning, its all they have to function on is lie after lie. After seeing how the repucks have operated after Obama got into office I will never vote Republican again…

    • Leonard Smith

      I agree with you Edward! The Republicans have made it their mission to not work with this president at all cost, even on issues that they’ve supported in the past. So anything that he (President Obama) suggest, presents or recommend, they automatically reject. To me that should be grounds for them to be fired from their positions. If any of us did that on our jobs we would be fired immediately!! They’ll never win a presidential election again until they change the way that the carry on. They are against anybody that doesn’t look like them. (Old white men) That last remark did not come from a place of racism, it’s just the truth!

  • Only 1 comment so far (not counting this one)? Where are all the scandal-mongers this morning? 😀 I am so lovin’ this!!

    • Richard Rowe

      Hell, I wouldn’t expect to see many trolls on this one. They’d have to acknowledge reality to get this far.

      • disqus_6AeSbMRBY2

        You know they’ll be out; like worms under a log.

      • Robert

        This article didn’t post facts. It posted faulty logic, claiming that the IRS White House conspiracy didn’t happen because the personal account of one person didn’t have anything incriminating. Lack of evidence doesn’t prove anything to be true or false (argument from ignorance) and personal account of one man doesn’t prove anything (faulty appeal to authority). This article’s “facts” don’t prove anything, and they certainly don’t prove what the article claims they do.

      • Your are exactly the type of drone they specifically mentioned as being too lazy or biased to be bothered to assess the facts. Ifn fact, i would bet the farm that you havent read any of the transcripts of the testimony or reviewed the emails. Go back to watching Fox Friends.

      • Robert

        I did, in fact, read the transcripts and sources that were given. Like I said, it’s one person’s personal account, and the article tries to claim that because of a lack of evidence in that account that would incriminate the White House that the conspiracy doesn’t exist. This is an incredibly fallacious argument. Try to address my points, rather than insult me. This article doesn’t prove anything.

      • bullshit. There were multiple testimonies, email tracks, documents etc. and nothing supported Issa’s claims of a vast conspiracy directed by the white house.Your logic is bunk too. The story isn’t that Obama is innocent its that issa spread lies and bullshit claiming that he had proof of Obama’s complicity when in fact the information did no such thing.

      • Robert

        I apologize for the lateness in response, but once again, this article proves nothing. In order for Issa to have been spreading lies, the necessary premise is for Obama to have definitely not been involved in the scandal at all. This article cites the testimony of one man who is denying Issa’s claims. This is simply you choosing to take one person’s word over another. That being said, the testimony of one person does not prove or disprove anything. That is an appeal to authority, and a falsely placed one. The fact that there was no evidence implicating Obama or confirming Issa’s claims also does not prove or disprove religion. To say that, because there is a lack of evidence for a claim, the person preaching it is lying would be to straight up disprove deism of any sort. An example would be this. There is a complete lack of evidence for the existence of God, but there also isn’t evidence that definitively disproves it. Is the preacher then spreading lies? No, he is spreading beliefs. However, as a lack of evidence does not prove or disprove anything, God’s existence is up for debate, and so is the existence of the IRS Obama collaboration. If there definitely wasn’t a collaboration, than Issa is lying. If there could have been one, he isn’t a “fraud,” as the article claims. Once again, I’m not arguing that there was a collaboration. I’m only arguing that this article does not, in any way, prove what it is trying to prove. It only presents possibilities. As I’m arguing about the article itself, and the sources it cites, the testimonies, email tracks, and documents you speak about bear no relevance here, and are just distractors from the main point of my post.

      • Are you for real? Didn’t we go thru similar “scandal” hunting after Clinton won his 2nd term? Please… Try to find it within yourself to actually stand back and look at this for what it is. A poorly veiled witch hunt. The lashing out of a cornered animal.

      • Robert

        Have I not continuously said that I’m not arguing about whether or not there is a conspiracy? All I’m saying is that the article claims that “Issa proven to be a fraud” because “full transcripts reveal no IRS conspiracy.” This article’s logic is flawed. It assumes that because an interview with one man showed a lack of evidence for a conspiracy, the conspiracy conclusively doesn’t exist, and because of that, Issa is a fraud. I’ve already shown the logical fallacies here. Read what I wrote, instead of assuming that I’m arguing that the conspiracy exists.

      • Chuck Reed

        So where are your Issa statement of fact about Obamas complicity as he (and you) charge Obama with?

        Come on you read the transcripts just cut and paste one fact that supports you!

      • Chuck Reed

        Again I say, you are going with the lack of evidence prosecution?

      • Chuck Reed

        You freely admit no evidence equals guilt?
        What Country do you think we live in!

      • Chuck Reed

        So your going with Obama is guilty because of the lack of evidence?
        Seems you have learned well from your propaganda masters.

  • Linda

    Well heck, they do the same thing with the Bible, why wouldn’t they do it with less lofty documents? Lying liars, and the lies they tell.

  • Joe from Arizona

    This is a typical unpatriotic/ treasonous attack on the President, they have only the facts they manufacture to suit the allegations. If they were not elected officials they would be in high school or prison, I prefer the latter. These people have cried wolf to many times and are completely non-credible to point the finger at the President or anyone else. The only people that still believe these people are the one successfully brain washed by them.

    • cloudshe

      apparently you’ve never heard the phrase “the buck stops here”, i know obama has, but he has insufficient character to adhere to that ideal, or so it seems

      • disqus_6AeSbMRBY2

        Typical rightwing response; President Obama has taken responsibility for everything that he is responsible for. There is NO evidence of wrongdoing on the part of the White House, so what exactly are you referring to? Is he just supposed to accept blame for things that he never did? ‘Cos while I know this is the Republican wet dream, it has no basis in reality. (Oops, sorry, I know “reality” is a difficult concept for rightwingers.)

      • cloudshe

        newsflash: the IRS actually Works for the president as does nearly every federal employee outside of congress and the judiciary. just because Obama was not personally involved in this screwup doesn’t clear him of responsibility, his unwillingness to admit this is just one example of his failure to lead imho. that’s the REALITY mr wet dream

      • Captain Crunch

        LOL cloudshe cracks me up……..so Obama should then take responsibility for everyone all the way down to the janitor and receptionist? Good luck with ANY President or CEO doing that. Lack of facts/proof never stops the Reps and FOX Tabloid news from spreading rumors. What ever happened to innocent until PROVEN guilty?

      • cloudshe

        sorry about your mix up there, politicians are certainly guilty until proven innocent, you are confusing our system of justice with dealing with job related screwups. looks like obama’s only intention of dealing with THIS fairly serious corruption is to opt out. leadership at its FINEST!

      • The only thing Obama did wrong here was in not instructing the IRS to tell the Republicans to screw off as what they were doing was not illegal..

      • Cindy

        Wow! Do you live in reality? Why would the buck stop with the President when HE HAS NO INVOLVEMENT and THERE IS NO SCANDAL?!!! You Tea-publicans are so far off-base it is just scary!

      • cloudshe

        focus, cindy, focus. the irs ADMITTED it was doing wrong, the president is so thankful he hasn’t been linked to this, he hasn’t even bothered to FIND OUT and DEAL with the folks who caused it. reminds me of clinton’s “the buck never got here” comment

      • Chuck Reed

        Admitted what? That they only investigated 1/3 of Republican 501’s while investigating 2/3rds of the rest including democratic 501s…
        There is no scandal…

      • Chuck Reed

        Again why the rage? Nothing bad happened to any Republican, What exactly did Obama do wrong?

      • cloudshe

        nothing bad happened? by sabotaging the ability of these groups to obtain contributions, the IRS didn’t HURT them? maybe 5th graders ARE smarter than the average progressive brainchild

      • Chuck Reed

        Geesh your a liar, not one of those investigated where denied so again I ask, why the rage? It’s very apparent to all of us who are NOT brainwashed there is no reason for this make believe rage…

      • cloudshe

        funny how this scandal has grown legs without any evidence, according to you

      • Chuck Reed

        Still waiting for any proof what so ever, all anybody sees from you is a sad little man trying to be a bully like his extremist hero’s.
        Now shut up until you bring some proof, or can’t you find any?.

      • Chuck Reed

        Still waiting to see how a lack of evidence equals guilt, can you tell me the particular Nazi law to which you refer? Because here in America lack of evidence point to innocence, regardless of what you hear on fox.

      • Ms. K

        Those organizations should have been denied because they were set up to dodge taxes which is the typical Republican way of doing things….. I am a federal worker and we don’t have any contact with President Obama or any other ranking official…. We have policy manuals that are written by Congress that we follow to the T…..

      • Chuck Reed

        Bush blamed the attorneys for torture, he blamed intel for going to war, where did bush ever take responsibility for shit he actually was responsible for?

      • cloudshe

        what blame? he explained the process for his actions, the reasons for his conclusions. because of lack of quick action by various folks, we got 9-11. bush was not willing to chance another disaster, could go no further while hussein continued with his atrocities and plots. to say everyone would be better off without bush’s elimination of the hussein regime would be just as big a question as the WMD uncertainty

      • Chuck Reed

        Saddam did nothing to us as matter of fact we were better off with him in office, that’s exactly why Bush Sr didn’t wipe him out completely. Ok listen, I’ll type slowly for you cuz you read slowly, Saddam was predictable, he was also hated by all his neighbors and the best reason of all to leave him in office, Saddam hated extremist groups. Saddam did NOT work well with others and allowed nobody in his Country have power of any kind including extremist terrorist groups.
        This may all be over your head and this I understand but try…

      • cloudshe

        your post is nothing but hindsight and insults. here, i’ll type this REAL SLOWLY: G R O W U P

      • Chuck Reed

        Show some facts little man, whats the matter your masters didn’t give you any? You may believe, your brainwashing makes that so but most of us do not.
        Show some facts or shut up.

      • Chuck Reed

        Wheres the proof, all we see is a sad little man flapping his gums with no fact just like you extremist hero’s.

      • Here is a newsflash for you: Nothing that was done in that IRS office was illegal. In fact, it was their duty to investigate these organizations. It is only because drones like you get all excited when Hannity tells you too that it became a political issue.

      • cloudshe

        guess what Sherlock, one of the supervisors TOOK THE FIFTH over this “nothing was illegal” ball of worms

      • Chuck Reed

        So who admitted what? Wheres the evidence bright guy? THERE IS NO SCANDAL!!!

      • cloudshe

        give it up, the IRS has ADMITTED it targeted conservative groups and unfairly held up their applications. that they won’t offer up the guilty is just evidence that, again, the Obama administration refuses to do its job. just because that doesn’t bother YOU doesn’t make it right

      • Chuck Reed

        Again you are a liar and before you make a bigger buffoon out of yourself you had better research before you say stupid shit like this, out of those targeted only 1/3 were conservative groups, so stop spreading “conservative lies” and try to get some of your material from sites that don’t lie to you, it makes you look like an idiot.

      • Chuck Reed

        WHERES THE FACTS?

        You are brainwashed, we are not!
        Prove it or shut up.

      • Sunseeker13

        Using that logic then, the armed forces actually “work for the President” but the right wingers keep claiming that he didn’t have anything to do with the capture of bin Laden. Touche.

      • cloudshe

        i would HOPE he had something to do with OBL’s capture, if nothing more than overriding valeri J’s opposition to the op and letting gates and mullen continue with the mission. it’s too bad that so many people found obama’s obnoxiously claiming credit for his personal involvement so insincere

      • Michael Ryland

        Those 4000+ dead Americans who were sent to Iraq and Afghanistan worked for George W Bush. He never pulled a trigger or built an IED, but was he responsible for them?

      • cloudshe

        yes, bush was responsible for our security and obviously was most concerned over attacks on the US. and he never blamed clinton for events leading up to what happened on 9-11. btw bush has shown on numerous occasions his sorrow and support of our wounded. if you think obama is more personally caring about our war casualties than bush, you’re grossly kidding yourself imo

      • Michael Ryland

        So he started a war with a country that had nothing to do with the 9/11 attacks (Iraq) based on a series of lies and THAT shows how much he cared? Where were the weapons of mass destruction? Where was the yellow-cake Uranium? Where was the link between Saddam and bin Laden? It’s much easier to look sad over war casualties than to provide leadership.

      • cloudshe

        what lies? the congressional investigation over the WMD snafu revealed no lies. there was concern over yellow cake deals that didn’t go through, there was concern over suspected WMDs, do you Deny hussein used chemical weapons on the kurds? do you Deny hussein attacked kuwait? was the israeli raid on hussein’s nuke development facilities imaginary? do you know for a fact that hussein didn’t send his stockpiles to syria? do you believe hussein wasn’t a terrorist in his own country? do you believe our buds the saudi’s weren’t scared to death of him? seems your problem is with the botched peace process, not the attack, so you’re parroting all the left wing claims over bush’s handling of our security problems after being handed the Pearl Harbor of our times. if hussein was still in power there would be peace in the world? let me guess, you probably believe obama is doing a much better job, even though bush cleaned up a lot of the existing mess

      • Chuck Reed

        that yellow cake was yet another fabrication that YOU BOUGHT. Even bush admitted there was NO WMDs

      • cloudshe

        what fabrication? there was evidence that tied iraq to that deal, the fact that it didn’t go through or was a misdirection is all hindsight. you seem to have forgotten the FACT that hussien USED WMDs against the kurds, that hussien actively tried to FOOL the free world that his quest for nukes was continuing (or was able to hide the evidence) certainly led to his demise. but to say bush knew there were no WMDs ahead of the war is just nonsense on your part

      • Chuck Reed

        No fact all lies… if there was yellow cake all those conservative that have admitted there was no WMDs would not have done so. It’s absolutely unbelievable that you bought into that shit. Do you also believe Pres Obama is not American and he is Muslim? All that same shit is alike, it’s not true and put there for idiots like you to spread to other extremist brainwashed buffoons.

      • cloudshe

        well, our Congress also bought into it, so why is it so unbelievable? hillary clinton, one of the smartest people on record, bought into it, do you claim to be smarter than her?

      • Chuck Reed

        Facts little man, you are just repeating what you hear and we do NOT believe it so show some facts!

      • cloudshe

        excuse me, jerkoff, take the time to research the TWO investigations on this subject that CONCLUDED there were no intentional lies from the bush administration. if you’re too lazy to do the work, why don’t you quit embarrassing yourself and wasting my time. i’m not going to help out someone who acts as stupidly as you and then insults ME when i attempt to show him/her the other side of the debate. good day

      • Chuck Reed

        Lol, it’s apparent you want to be a bully. you have tried to bully everybody you respond to and NEVER USE ANY FACTS, all is conjecture and opinion. Why not research this topic, the yellow cake story shows the extinct of your brainwashing and inability to do basic research, even your own party knows to not try to use the yellow cake story as it has been refuted by your party leaders.
        GWBush and Dick Cheney do not even try to use the yellow cake crap, they freely admit there was no WMD’s or material to make them.

        Even Fox doesn’t talk about the yellow cake but they DO talk about the failure of Intel from some South African, where the yellow cake lie was formed. Now then little fellow, instead of name calling and all your weird blustering why not actually research before opening your mouth, little man..
        Pick up a book man, you believe to much bullshit you read then repeat it, repeat bullshit,you are a bullshiter!

      • hiatt111

        Don’t expect to get a educated response from Chucky. Any post he doesn’t agree with, he refers to the post(er) as a bully. You can shower him with facts and he will say you didn’t use one fact. Pretty sure he cuts and pastes his responses, as one is usually just as meaningless as all the others. I quit responding to him because he offers no original thoughts only blinded lemming space filler. Oh, if you use any words in your post that he has ever used, he thinks you’re
        stealing his vocabulary. I’m guessing its a result of some delusional disorder.

        cc;Chuck

      • cloudshe

        where are your facts, wimpy pie? you obviously don’t know shit fm bullshit. all you apparently read (assuming you do so) is from pernicious commies like joe wilson or rachael maddow. you dishonestly blast my info without any research on your own because you’re too stupid to look for the truth. and if that’s bullying and name calling, look in the mirror, cretin. too bad this has degenerated to this point, i have learned nothing from you other than you’re the typical egocentric liberal POS with all the common complaints and the blinders-on approach to reality. hope that works for you

      • Chuck Reed

        Still nothing shecloud? I’m done little man, I have asked and asked and all you do is flap your gums and name call.Anyone here can see all your posts are attacks with no substance, no fact ever just name calling and attacks on peoples character.

      • cloudshe

        since you won’t even mention what specific “facts” you disagree with, and frequently call others “liar” and other nice words, what “character” have you displayed that has been so offended? pls look back at who attacked whom first before you make accusations

      • Chuck Reed

        BTW bright guy, BULLSHIT IS SHIT!

        So it’s you who doesn’t know…
        You have proven your opinion is worthless!

      • cloudshe

        for all your whining and name calling, i have no idea what your opinion is, other than everyone else is wrong, with nothing to back it up, einstein. go ahead, post some more drivel if it makes you feel smarter

      • Chuck Reed

        Still not a single fact? Not one?
        You come to a debate about fact free posts with name calling and still no facts, you got me buddy, the old saying is right, you can’t argue with stupid but you will win the debate!

      • hiatt111

        Don’t expect to get a educated response from Chucky. Any post he doesn’t agree with, he refers to the post(er) as a bully. You can shower him with facts and he will say you didn’t use one fact. Pretty sure he cuts and pastes his responses, as one is usually just as meaningless as all the others. I quit responding to him because he offers no original thoughts and is simply a blinded lemming. Oh, if you use any words in your post that he has ever used, he thinks your stealing his vocabulary. I’m guess its a result of some delusional disorder.

      • cloudshe

        thanks for the warning, pretty much what i’ve seen so far

      • Chuck Reed

        Hey news flash, the entire anti-Republican bias was NOT true, only a third of those 501’s turned out to be Republican so why are you people up in arms?

        perhaps you are all mad Fox lied and you just don’t want to admit it to US

      • cloudshe

        not to mention the answers to ridiculous questions the IRS came up with and the fact that months and Years went by with no action on various conservative requests.

        i always consider the Fox excuse to be a last ditch effort at a weak argument, verdad?

      • Chuck Reed

        Tell me again, since you obviously “researched” this so well (looked up extremist website to be brainwashed some more) tell me one organization that was not allowed to collect tax free money? Come on, you talk about ridicules answers, exactly who has been harmed and since you are the expert, how many organization were denied?
        NONE… So much for the pretend scandal.

      • cloudshe

        excuse me, but why did these organizations even FILE for status? your assertion is lame. if you were waiting for a considerable income tax refund and it took the IRS YEARS to come through, yet your neighbor, a known Obama donator, got his in a week, would you say “oh, i’m fine with that, i guess i should have given more to the Democraps, they DO run the IRS, don’t they?”

      • Chuck Reed

        PROOF! WHERES THE PROOF!!!
        Most of us know how badly your sources lie so we will NOT take your word for anything.
        WHERES THE PROOF!

      • Chuck Reed

        You erroneously claim I get my info from liberal sources don’t you? So you must get your info from extremist sources.

        All I do is pick apart what you say BECAUSE YOU GIVE NO FACTS!

      • Chuck Reed

        Still no evidence. we all see the gums flapping and hear the drivel NOT A SHRED OF EVIDENCE!

      • Michael Ryland

        Apparently, George W Bush and Dick Cheney never heard that phrase.

      • cloudshe

        based on what, mr ryland??

      • Michael Ryland

        Iraq, Afghanistan…

      • cloudshe

        again, don’t think those guys ever claimed innocence or somebody else’s fault when it came to their turn to run the gov’t. your hindsight does not change that imho

      • Chuck Reed

        Yes they did, remember Valerie Plame?
        WELL SHE WAS CORRECT AND CHENEY SILENCED HER, WHY?

      • cloudshe

        correct about what? the plame baloney was a well known sham perped by liberals and the press. pretty dumb you use that as an example of misconduct by the bush admin

      • Chuck Reed

        Why did people go to prison?

        Come on you can’t possibly be that bad,
        remember Scooter Libby, Cheneys number one ? He served time in prison for outing Plame so if its all Liberal crap why didn’t Bush pardon him? Tell me bright guy (sorry for offending all the “bright” guys out there)

      • cloudshe

        you should quit getting your facts from MoveOn, or is it “political comedian” B Maher. libby was convicted of misleading investigators, thinking he was protecting someone, who it turned out did nothing wrong. sometimes when people lie they go to jail. unless you’re a democrap wanting to be president or secretary of state

      • Chuck Reed

        Well at least you admit Move On gives facts. How about your site,WHERES THE FACTS.
        it’s funny you bring up move on, all they do is show video clips and complete transcripts where far right extremists contradict themselves.

        Not a bunch of brainwashing bull just video and complete transcripts with extremist caught in lies.
        if I were you I wouldn’t go to that website, your head would explode…
        WHERES THE FACTS!

      • Chuck Reed

        Argumentative and completely fact free.

      • Chuck Reed

        But the conspiracy stopped at Issa’s office and thats what is being discussed.

      • cloudshe

        that issa can’t move forward because no one’s talking and no one in charge is actually taking charge? because they appear to not be taking this seriously is troubling, because a self-serving government is Dangerous, and because this could all be just a cover up. where are the answers? who dunnit? when will “executive privilege” be invoked?? maybe after Benghazi the administration realized if they don’t lie out loud, it’s harder to recognize the incompetence

      • Chuck Reed

        No, everything that Issa was dribbling out a little at a time, it was released by Elijah Cummins and the only thing that reeks is the fact the person holding up the process is a conservative Republican and there is NOT one single piece of evidence on anyone else holding up anyone.

        If you have evidence please contact your local bagger politician, they need evidence to try to make something out of this badly…
        There is no scandal, now get that through your thick skull.

      • cloudshe

        your inability to admit that conservative groups were handled unfairly, by buying into the Excuse “no one was harmed because i said so” is insincere, imho. and your insults are childish. to give the IRS a pass on this is just another step toward domination of our people by the Government. without a full explanation of what happened by the people involved and their supervisors, they are covering up their wrongdoing and thumbing their nose at us. any IRS employee who did not fully cooperate with the investigation should have been FIRED. and the idiots that were blowing their budget on expensive conventions and self promoting costly movies should be demoted or otherwise disciplined. what part of Gov’t FOR the People don’t you get?

      • Chuck Reed

        PROVE “CONSERVATIVE GROUPS WERE TREATED UNFAIRLY!

  • Rob

    This should put to bed the GOP conspiracy theories… But will they read this and learn the facts? Or just keep listening to Faux noise?

    • Richard Rowe

      They’ll keep recycling the same BS until the That Black Guy farts in public. Then they’ll accuse him of trying to raise The Beast.

      • cloudshe

        typical Fartist post: if you’re white and you didn’t vote for Obama…

      • Vicki Plaugher

        Gotcha, cloudshe. Ain’t it the truth! Funny how the dems/progressives think we’re the rabid ones. They need a very clear mirror.

      • Cody

        umm… Wouldn’t a clear mirror allow them to see everyone else?

      • Nick Caine

        no, some of us can be subjective and be aware of how GOP Presidents in modern history are treated and those with critiques are labeled as ‘unpatriotic’ ‘traitors’ and even ‘terrorists’ when they are in office, but when a Democrat is in office, they are the leaders of the Apocalypse and are questioned about literally everything they do, say, or even accused of being born in another country. it’s not about race with this, because Clinton had the exact same thing happen to him even before the Monica story broke. It’s scandals and witchhunts and conspiracy theories when they are in power, but GOD FORBID anyone question anything the Bushes did, or Reagan while in office – and there were ACTUAL huge scandals they were directly in charge of…if a democrat was in office for 9/11 and led us into war under false pretense and started the Patriot Act drone war, you would literally have an impeachment trial the second the GOP could round up the troops. THAT’S the difference. It doesn’t matter if they are black or white, and the same thing will happen after Obama when the next Democrat wins the office too, you can be sure of that. Give me a break.

      • cloudshe

        not surprising in your little world you would have MISSED the exonerations of both reagan and bush on EVERY scandal they were accused of. why? because they were men of integrity (but never claimed to be without their own flaws). which of these “scandals” was NOT investigated to death: iran-contra (reagan said he was Ashamed of those who broke the law) WMD (nothing was intentionally made up according to congress’ investigation) valerie plame (total BS from the beginning, yet libby found guilty of trying to cover up something that didn’t exist) monica lewinsky (oh, sorry, wrong prez) yet it is too easy to point out outright LIES from the mouths of dishonest folks like bill, hillary, barack, yet you believe there’s a double standard?

      • Chuck Reed

        Heck he was too damn dumb to be even be embarrassed over Iran Contra, just imagine the outrage if a REAL scandal like this hit the “black guy”?

      • cloudshe

        hate and racism, is that all ya got?

      • Chuck Reed

        LIAR SHECLOUD. ANY FACTS AT ALL! DONT YOU HAVE ONE SINGLE FACT?

    • cloudshe

      i think if you tallied the “lies” put out by fox newscasters and compare them to those of obama and his administration, hey, OBAMA WINS AGAIN!

      • Mandate

        cloudshe, you are full of it up to your eyebrows!!!!

      • disqus_6AeSbMRBY2

        Don’t bother engaging cloudshe or vicki plagher; they are quite obviously brain washed with FOX “News” talking points, and even when presented with actual facts, they will plug their ears and cry “lalalalala, I can’t hear you, lalalalalalala….” Sucks when reality has a liberal bias, at least when your a conservative.

      • cloudshe

        oboy! the Fox News claim! seems that’s always the last resort when you’re losing the argument. i’m not sure you ran out of substance, you may have never Had any

      • cloudshe

        apparently, your president lying to you is no big deal, so why criticize a news organization who (you claim) does the same?

      • Captain Crunch

        Yep there goes cloudshe along with Fox Tabloid News…..Obama Lies…Obama Lies….Obama Lies……wolf…wolf…wolf…..SO….what EXACTLY did Obama LIE about? This should be good coming from the party who supported the BIGGEST story changer in campaign history MR Mittens

      • cloudshe

        well, if MR was mr flipflop, i suppose Kerry was mr FF to the 10th power, of course they both LOST. and, true, obama’s lies seem to pale before those of Hillary. but, hey, “you can keep your doctor” “obamacare will pay for itself” “i killed OBL” “benghazi was caused by a movie” “transparency and the rule of law will be the touchstones of my administration” “no one who makes less than $250k will see any tax increase” “the US has less than 2% of the world’s oil reserves”, are these examples of what you’re looking for? are these the words of an honest man?

      • Chuck Reed

        if mr was mr flip flop? what the hell does that mean?
        if you feel so badly about lies why do you do so every post?

      • cloudshe

        mitt romney. what lies? pls be more specific, calling me a liar without explanation is not very nice

      • Chuck Reed

        Just look at all the lies you have told, you cant see through the cloud of propaganda but that doesnt mean the rest of us dont!
        NOT ONE FACT YET!
        TELL US AGAIN HOW CONSERVATIVE GROUPS WERE THE ONES TARGETED, COME ON, NO MORE LIES. I’M ASKING FOR ONE FACT WHY DO YOU REFUSE?

        BECAUSE ITS NOT TRUE!

      • Chuck Reed

        He goes on without an inch of evidence!

      • Chuck Reed

        Just one shred of proof?

      • Michael Ryland

        You claim over and over that there have been myriad lies from the Obama Administration. Please list them. NOT the conspiracy theories about Fast and Furious, Benghazi and the IRS. I want you to find real, provable lies that have come from the President. You know, like “weapons of mass destruction” or “Iraq is buying Uranium” or, oh wait, that was a different President.

      • cloudshe

        wake the F up. if you think the 3 YOU listed were honestly answered, you’re nothing more than a stooge. what part of “benghazi was caused by a movie” did you believe? who was responsible for the gunrunning that Obama invoked “executive privilege” over? did you smirk when obama claimed “no one wants to take away your guns”? are you happy that obama claims no responsibility for IRS employee screw ups? who the hell do you think IS running the executive branch, einstein?

      • Chuck Reed

        No come on now , he said list the lies!!!

      • Chuck Reed

        LIST THE LIES!
        WHO’S THE LIAR?

    • Robert

      Facts? Are you kidding me? This article presented some of the most fallacious logic I’ve ever seen. This article uses the most blatant use of appeals to ignorance and testimonial fallacies that I’ve ever seen. Essentially what I just said is that this article claims that no Obama IRS collaboration happened because there is no evidence about it from one guy’s testimonial. Lack of evidence does not prove how true or false anything is, and we cannot test one person’s personal account as the be all and end all for a case. Honestly, I was expecting these transcripts to be of the 157 visits by Shulman, not some guy’s interview. I’m not saying that the conspiracy happened or didn’t happen, but to use this as a source and claim that it has facts that prove its point would be ridiculous. The article proves nothing.

    • Michael Ryland

      Facts? Conservatives NEVER let facts get in the way of spewing their Teabag talking points in front of every camera and on any social networking site they can find. They only “fact” they will ever be forced to face is losing an election. Vote these bastards out and the only place you will ever see them is on Fox News.

  • Dave Pavlatos

    Issa need to make a formal apology that HAS TO BE AIRED ON ALL MAJOR AND CABLE NEWS NETWORKS!!!!!!! And at his expense, because he sure as hell wasted tons of money with his witch hunt!!!! He also needs to be removed from ANY oversight committee. This man is trying to destroy the office of the presidency and the United States…..doesn’t this make him a domestic terrorist? Ship his felon ass to Gitmo!!!!

    • Vicki Plaugher

      “Ship his felon ass to Gitmo!!!!” Wow, that’s a great…. Oh, but wait a minute, Obama said he was going to close Gitmo by the end of his first year in office. And it’s still open. How could that be? From his own mouth, Pres. Obama, said his administration would make “transparency and the rule of law” cornerstones of his administration. With apologies to Ricky Ricardo, “Mr. Obama, you have some ‘splaining to do!” Wake up, Dave.

      • Becky

        Well, GITMO can’t close if there is no where to send the prisoners. “The administration’s efforts to close Gitmo — a 2008 campaign pledge by Barack Obama — has come up short because other countries don’t want to take prisoners they consider dangerous, and because some U.S. lawmakers don’t want terrorist suspects tried in domestic courts in the United States.” So Vicki, would you like to house these prisoners? There has been a lawyer assigned to the case who will, hopefully, get this settled. So, there’s you “splainin”

      • Vicki Plaugher

        No problem, Becky. I’ll house one if you will…LOL! But, please remember, when a candidate is running for the highest position in this country, he or she should NEVER make a campaign promise that cannot be kept. It has happened on both sides. Perhaps, Mr. Obama (along with ANY candidate) or his staff of advisors should have looked into the Gitmo situation further before making an empty promise. If one doesn’t have the resources to investigate a situation, keep one’s mouth shut. It’s not unreasonable, it’s common sense.

      • Vivi

        He also said he’d get Osama Bin Laden and get healthcare legislation enacted and he did. He’s done a lot of things he said he would – I know how unhappy that makes you! But you keep beating that Gitmo drum, girl. Go on with it.

      • Vicki Plaugher

        I’m only “beating the Gitmo drum” because the above poster made the silly comment in the first place. If you’d read all my posts, you’d understand that as a constitutional conservative, I have no problem giving Pres. Obama credit where credit is due. This is not a sour grapes thing; I certainly wasn’t thrilled with Mitt Romney, so I didn’t vote for him. But, Vivi, when Obama’s healthcare legislation was first being formulated, where were the cameras that were promised by candidate Obama, so the public could “see” who was deciding how the healthcare plan would work? I’ll give you a hint: It has to do with ‘zero’. Keep it comin’….

      • Cindy

        And that what a Teabagger does when confronted with fact… pulls weeds. lol. Later, Vic!

      • Becky

        Vicki, I wasn’t the one complaining about the prison, you were, so feel free to house as many as you want. As far as empty promises, When Obama was running for president one of the big scandals was Guantanamo, so he promised that he would close it down. That was what everybody wanted, wasn’t it? The Republicans and the Democrats? So it was a pretty safe bet that EVERYBODY would work with him to get this done all across the party lines. He didn’t know that he was going to be dealing with a Congress full of school children. Once Obama became President the Republicans decided that they had their own agenda and none of it included anything that Obama wants to accomplish. Hell, Romney had, basically, the same healthcare plan that Obama has signed into law, but suddenly Romney, and the rest of the Republicans, have decided that they don’t like it and has made every attempt to repeal it. Guantanamo was not an empty promise, it was a promise made because that was what the country and the candidates clearly wanted, BEFORE Obama became President. Now that a black man (yep, I’m pulling the race card, I live in the South and I know racism when I see it, no matter how hard y’all try to deny it and as thinly veiled as it is.) is in office, all bets are off. He has accomplished many things that are great for our country but y’all just keep harping on the things he HASN’T done (because of Congress) or blaming every scandal on him. There are a series of checks and points (Congress) before most things can get done. So far Congress has made sure that everything they can stop is stopped. The things they can’t prevent are turned into a huge “OMG, Obama has signed legislation without our permission so he’s a traitor” I’ll give you an example of that. When President Obama signed legislation ensuring that our national security will be better protected by changing up internet security I saw a post just screaming about how Obama is taking over the country and how “This has to be stopped”. Do you know how that affects you, other than making the country less vulnerable to cyber attacks? Not a freakin’ thing. Do you know what that meant to me??? It took me almost an hour to change EVERY password on all my government accounts. Most of the things that Obama is doing doesn’t even require that you give a rats ass, just enjoy the benefits. But y’all sure take the time to complain every chance you get. So please, just get over Guantanamo, there are elections next year and if the lawyer that has been assigned to the case can’t get it accomplished, the Dems we vote in will. Now, go dig up some more dirt.. Umm I mean go pull your weeds and have a great day.

      • Chuck Reed

        He is not Mr Obama, he is President Obama!
        I know where you get that, again it’s propaganda, its repeated over and over and over again that Palin is to be referred to as “Governor” even though she is NOT a Governor and when she was she quit half term so why do you people have to refer to palin as Governor and yet the sitting President is referred to as Obama or Mr Obama? Just to point out a little of their Propaganda at work.

      • Alexis Betancourt

        Gitmo has not been closed because Congress has opposed its closing each and every time he proposes it. Just recently Congress passed a bill to keep it open . Why does POTUS get the blame for everything.

      • Vicki Plaugher

        Thanks, Alexis, you just made my point! The POTUS gets the blame because HE made the promise without knowing if he even had the support of a Democrat-controlled Congress. As I stated above, ALL candidates need to use common sense before making promises they can’t keep!

      • Nick Caine

        Honestly, I would rather have someone like him who actually answers the question and promises to try, as opposed to some vague non answer or incoherent nonsense, like what most of W. Bush had to say in his campaigns and in the WH. And he did try to get it done very quickly after election the first time, people seem to very easily forget this especially during the election lead up last year.

      • terry

        And you have proved mine. You accept a right wing party that refuses to do the right thing and YOU put them there. So you too should be accepting to a future Government of “if my party loses we will attack and cast doubt, LIE (ISSA), and draw up documents to sign stating “we will not do anything if its part of the Presidents agenda”. Ahh sigh, but in your world you still are capable in shifting the total blame to the President.

      • Terry

        Leave it to you to completely dismiss the facts of the article. Where is congress in there role in closing Gitmo? Hmmm You are obviously OK with the constant lies from the right so in your world no matter who becomes President it’s Ok to create non factual stories as long as it puts your party in better standing. Then do not be surprised if no matter who becomes the next President this becomes the new norm, attack and accomplish nothing for the American citizens as long as it promotes doubt. You dismiss truth and create yet another Anti-President accusation without facts. You have made you right wing party proud.

      • Vicki Plaugher

        Actually, I agree with you Terry. I’m afraid it is already the “new norm” and it’s been that way for a long time. It’s funny how you accuse me of “dismissing truth” when you don’t even know me. This comment section is insufficient to discuss in depth all the pluses and minuses of the Obama presidency and the George W. presidency, and the Clinton presidency, ad nauseum. See my post below, I’m going to do something productive by walking my dogs. Oh, and if I’ve made the “right wing party proud”, then great. I don’t follow a party, I follow our republic. Have a wonderful day!

      • Cindy

        Duh, Vicki. Gitmo is not closed cause you new republicans block the President of the United States at every turn!! Shame on u!!!

      • Chuck Reed

        Shame on all the baggers for making us a world laughing stock…

      • Chuck Reed

        So thats all you have about all the lies told by Issa and how Fox played it every hour on the hour all this time? its why people like you still think there was a scandal, my god will you even be embarrassed when you realize you bought into all the propaganda?

    • Cindy

      Issa needs to make restitution for the time and tax dollars he has wasted in his witch-hunt!

    • Michael Ryland

      The only acceptable “formal apology” from Issa would a letter of resignation.

  • cloudshe

    hitler Loved folks who didn’t ask the obvious questions

    • Kenken530

      Compare Obama to Hitler. That’s class.

      • Vicki Plaugher

        Yah, well, the same was said about George W. It was without class then, it’s without class now.

      • disqus_6AeSbMRBY2

        Yeah, but the difference is that most liberals waited till Bush really effed up before trash talking him. Republicans have had President Obama in their sites from Day One. Your party is so effed up, they won’t have the White House again for decades. Don’t worry, we survived The Shrub, you guys will survive President Obama much better off. (And seriously, the Hilter comparisons are beyond stupid, no matter who is making them. Neither Bush or Obama massacred millions of people; and if President Obama were the tyrant you are all so fond of saying he is, there would be regular executions behind the White House. Get a life.)

      • Vicki Plaugher

        Wow, seriously, Disqus??? I’ve tried to make cogent arguments/points and you respond with petty insults, e.g. “Get a life”?? That’s the best you can do? I don’t have a party, I have beliefs. It doesn’t matter to me who is in the White House. Americans vote, someone gets elected. I don’t cry about it, I try to live my life, stay in touch with what matters, and not hurt anyone–even those who don’t agree with me. There is NO tyranny in this country. It could happen, there are no absolutes. You warn others not to argue with me because supposedly I’m “brain washed by FOX News”, you state with certainty that I plug my ears when faced with “actual facts” (by the way, facts are actual, so please watch your non sequiturs) and cry “lalalalala”! You don’t know anything about me, so maybe you should stop with your own ”talking points”. This is an open forum but I suppose you only want the Progressives involved. Pretty boring forum, if you all just want to “high five” each other. If you want to have a reasonable conversation, try bringing your ‘A’ game.

      • Bruce

        How about educating yourself and actually posting some facts, not just your opinions Vicky!

      • cloudshe

        the FACTS are most politicians hate questions about their integrity, under the nazis you were not allowed to question. the nazis would have come down hard on Issa, do we want to be like them?

      • Guest

        Funny how when the argument doesn’t go the way they want, the rightwing loves, Loves, LOVES to play the “Nazi card.” Or compare Obama to Hilter. (snicker) Try to find something a little more, oh, what was the word you used? Oh yeah, COGENT. There are no real comparisons between the Obama administration and the Nazi regime, and by insisting to use that imflamatory rhetoric, you only make yourself look (more) foolish. “The sky is falling, the sky is falling!” cried Chicken Little.

      • cloudshe

        maybe you’d feel a little different if Your little non-profit was under attack and no one like Issa was around to set the government straight. you sound a lot like the the guy in the “they came for the jews, but i wasn’t jewish, so i didn’t speak out” story. Issa may not be a Hero, but at least he’s INTERESTED in the extent of corruption in our government. and it seems your only defense to this is to insult ME. good luck with that

      • Chuck Reed

        MAYBE YOU THINK 1/3 OF GROUPS INVESTIGATED IS UNFAIRLY TARGETING “CONSERVATIVE: ORGANIZATIONS, IF SO YOUR OPINION IS WORTHLESS SO, GIVE FACTS!

      • disqus_6AeSbMRBY2

        So funny when a rightwinger doesn’t like the direction of the argument, and tries to play the “Nazi” card, or compare Obama to Hitler. Ridiculous, absurd comparisons, both. You would benefit greatly from some history lessons, dear.

      • cloudshe

        why do you assume i was being critical of obama? it’s Forward Progressives that’s trying to defame Issa for asking the obvious questions.

      • disqus_6AeSbMRBY2

        Darrell Issa is a Tea-party tool; the number of Teaparty groups that were being looked at by the IRS was roughly a little less than a third of all groups applying for tax-exempt status, so the idea that they were “targeted” is a little like a 17 year old kid trying to buy alcohol and then screaming bloody murder when asked for his ID. Plus, tax exempt status is supposed to go to groups that provide a society some benefits, not groups that are political in nature. Please try to explain to me how the Tea party is not 100% political in nature; I’ll be here, holding my breath……oh yeah, and you were the one who compared Obama to Hitler; yeah, sure, no criticism there….

      • cloudshe

        oh come on. the IRS ADMITTED they unfairly held up the requests of right wing organizations. and since You People seem to be forcing the idea that Issa should NOT be asking questions of our beloved President, it’s You People who are similar to those who let the nazis into power, i don’t know if obama is proud of you too, that’s just Your take on my comment

      • Chuck Reed

        WHERE ARE THE FACTS?
        WHAT PERCENTAGE OF GROUPS WERE ACTUALLY “CONSERVATIVE”?

        FACTS PLEASE!!!

      • Chuck Reed

        “it’s Forward Progressives that’s trying to defame Issa for asking the obvious questions.”
        ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.
        QUESTION, WHO WAS INJURED?
        QUESTION, WHAT PERCENTAGE OF GROUPS INVESTIGATED WHERE “CONSERVATIVE”? QUESTION, WHY WAS THE MAIN IRS AGENT INVOLVED IN THIS “CONSERVATIVE”?
        NO OPINION PLEASE, GIVE FACTS!

      • Chuck Reed

        WELL GIVE THE FACTS?
        DO YOU EVEN KNOW WHAT THE WORD “FACT” MEANS?
        COME ON LIST SOME FACTS!
        YOU SAY THE WORD “FACT” THEN YOU GIVE OPINION! JUST LIKE FOX…

      • disqus_6AeSbMRBY2

        Ouchie, I must’ve touched a nerve; still looking for that “cogent argument” in your previous statements. Not much cogency here…..I welcome an intelligent discourse with opposing opinions, but seriously, not seeing much by way of intelligence. You might start off with looking up “non-sequitor.” You apparently have it confused with another term.

      • Vicki Plaugher

        Good grief, Disqus, no nerve touched here; you actually make me want to take a nap. I haven’t resorted to name calling or attacks on anyone’s education, or telling folks to “get a life”. Perhaps I should respond to everyone by saying, “Your mother wears Army boots!” Maybe that’s cogent and intelligent to you but as I stated above, no opposing viewpoints are tolerated here. I do have a life and if ‘cloudshe’ would like to carry the torch, best of luck to you! For the rest of you folks, I’m signing off because this exercise is like throwing pearls before swine. Hope that’s clear enough; signing off to pursue useful pursuits, such as walking my dogs!

      • disqus_6AeSbMRBY2

        Sweet dreams, and do pick up after your dog, won’t you?

      • Vicki Plaugher

        Sweet dreams to you too! And, yes, I will pick up after my dogs. BTW, not continuing the discussion, just thought I’d check in. Take care, Disqus!

      • Nick Caine

        EXACTLY. Thank you for putting this into better words that I tried above. THAT’S the difference – the Dems actually worked with Bush, even before 9/11 and after as well. And they didn’t play the fillibuster scandal drag the mud tactics the GOP is doing now, they did it in Congress where they were supposed to be raising those questions. If the liberals, Democrats, or ANYONE non-GOP had pulled the same crap the people who have attacked Obama since day one have done since he took office, they would be called out for treason and compared to terrorists and told to be respectful of the President in war-time. Yet somehow it’s supposed to be different for this current President. And then when we bring this us, we get accused of playing the race card? It’s not about that, although no one was actively targeting Bush the second he took office and blocking everything he did and pulling every scandal they could dream of out as much as possible, or asking for his birth records and accusing him of being a communist fascist Hitler incarnate. It’s insanity and it just makes the GOP and their base look like absolute nutjobs to the majority of the country even if they do disagree with Obama’s policies or actions while President.

      • cloudshe

        baloney. fm the beginning bush’s presidency was questioned because sore loser gore kept asking for recount after recount in FL, even bringing in crooks fm chicago to try to falsify the count

      • disqus_6AeSbMRBY2

        Yeah, and the rightwing Supreme Court said, “Ya know, we don’t REALLY need to count any more votes. We’ll just APPOINT Bush as president.” Never happened before, and it was NOT within the perview of the SCOTUS to do so then. Votes were counted anyway, even though the SCOTUS wasn’t going to change their minds, and Gore should have been President by the popular vote. Bush stole that election, and that is the fact.

      • cloudshe

        which proves my point, that Bush was under attack fm the beginning. and you are so full of it that Gore was “elected” by the popular vote. did you EXPECT the SCOTUS to change the rules of the election AFTER the fact? gore needed to win florida, he LOST it by every vote count, the Court just acted to blow the whistle on the BS so the country could get back to reality. pls get your facts straight sweetheart

      • disqus_6AeSbMRBY2

        Okay, you got me there with another rightwing tactic; distraction. THIS thread is about Darrell Issa being ALL WRONG about the so-called “IRS scandal.” But to your idiocy; SCOTUS did in fact change the rules when they “appointed” Bush as president. Was Gore supposed to just roll over and pretend that he didn’t get screwed by the right? (Maybe that’s why the rights position on rapes is so antiquated; the victim is just supposed to “get over it.”) Go back up and read the original post for this thread again; Issa effed up in another over zealous attempt to discredit President Obama, who has nothing to do with whom the IRS selects for scrutiny. And before you suggest that someone else gets their facts straight, “sweetheart,” you might try straightening your own out first. “Sweetheart.”

      • cloudshe

        hold on there sweetheart. the SCOTUS did nothing to stop the initial recounts, none of which were successful for him. how did gore get screwed? he wanted to skew the recount to his favor by picking his own districts, and although he claimed “every vote should count” he wanted to THROW OUT many military absentee ballots on technicalities. and your claim that in 2000 a president could be elected by Popular Vote is undeniably false. and it seems Clear that this website is trying to defame Issa by calling him a Fraud for asking pertinent questions. so, yes, pls check your facts

      • Chuck Reed

        AGAIN ANOTHER FACTLESS OPINION PIECE BY SHECLOUD!

      • Chuck Reed

        THE SCOTUS DIDNT CHANGE THE RULES AFTER THE FACT, THEY CHANGED THE RULES DURING THE RECOUNT.
        YOU DARE TELL SOMEONE “GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT SWEETHEART”?

        YOU HAVE NEVER ONCE GIVEN A FACT, YOU ARE FULL OF OPINION.

        DO YOU KNOW HOW TO GIVE FACTS?

        MAYBE YOU DONT KNOW HOW.
        MAYBE YOU DONT HAVE ANY.

      • Chuck Reed

        THERE WAS NEVER A FULL RECOUNT, THE RECOUNT WAS STOPPED BY A CONSERVATIVE SCOTUS BEFORE IT WAS COMPLETED.
        AGAIN, LIES.
        JUST ONCE GIVE A FACT!

      • Captain Crunch

        I didn’t complain about Bush at all…..in FACT I voted for both Bush Presidents. But now the Reps disgust me.

      • cloudshe

        it’s the FOLKS i’m complaining about. why don’t YOU want to know the facts? how do you find out without asking? yet you are more than ready to dis Issa for doing his job. instead, why don’t you ask the WH why they have so FAILED their promise to “make transparency and the rule of law the touchstones of my administration”

      • Chuck Reed

        WELL GIVE SOME FACTS THEN, SHOW US HOW ITS DONE!

    • Bruce

      So do republicans!

      • disqus_6AeSbMRBY2

        By a FAR greater margin.

    • Chuck Reed

      BLAH, BLAH, BLAH.
      WHERES THE FACTS?

  • James Madison

    Wow what are the odds, a conservative admits to targeting conservative groups… I bet he gets a raise for taking the bullet, just like Susan Rice.

  • L Eliot

    The Democratic Party might be incompetent, but GOP personifies Satan himself.

  • John Stark

    They are career politicians all the way… not to mention the people who voted for them are not being served either..they are on the take from lobbyists. When money changes hands they become political whores…They no longer have any street crebility or personal virtues..They are on the take and they’re bought and paid for by corporate America privately held interests.
    .

    • Vicki Plaugher

      So, John, are you saying only Republicans/Conservatives are on the “take from lobbyists”? Are those the “theys” to which you are referring? And, therefore, “they” are the only “political whores”, “they” are the only ones without “street crebility (sic) or personal virtues”, “they” are the only ones “bought and paid for by corporate America”. If ignorance is bliss, you must be quite the blissful one. (P.S. See my above post to Becky, in which I argue about making baseless campaign promises, such as Obama’s pledge to not have lobbyists and special interests running his administration. Last time I checked, lobbyists/special interests are still well paid.)

      • John Stark

        Verifying the phrase Political whores…I deem any one willing to sell out the American public for their own gains to be a Political whore…The lobbyists come with the money …They leverage the politician to vote in ways that do not reflect the voters who put them in office…Hence they just became political whores for money that bought their voting privileges. When I see Republican wasting Tax payer time to em battle the Congress and Senate on issues that are old or non movers this is political

        husbandry in the rare transparent form..We now have republicans claiming that GOD is somehow weighing in on all decisions…IS HE EVEN IN THE ROOM< IS HE PICKING UP A PEN TO SIGN LEGISLATION >NOT REGULATED ON US FINANCIAL TERMS…YOUR SELF PROCLAIMED INDIGNATION ID FOWL AND NON COHERENT …ABOVE ALL YOU ATTEMPT TO INSULT IN THIS FORUM WHEN IN FACT I TRY TO BRING FOCUS UPON THE WRONG DOING OF REPUBLICANS LIKE DARYL ISA AND MISCHELLE MICHELLE BACHMANN..REPUBLICANS ARE THE FOCUS OF MY TEXT BECAUSE I AM A DEM…SO VICKI DO YOU TRAVEL MUCH?

        THEN F- OFF!!!

      • John Stark

        KOCH BROTHERS! Vicki… Did I at any point say solely Republicans? You attack me for being honest and revealing the disparity of the issue…When money changes hands they become political whores…They can be of either party…mainly we get to see Republicans often do this and it accomplishes absolutely nothing…Rick Perry calling a special session on Abortions in Texas…Being Thwarted by a Woman talking for 10 hours straight to Filibuster it…What a waste of Tax payer dollars and time and efforts to further his own ideas on pro life abortion issues versus serving the entire state of Texas….

        He is pursuing his own ideas and not of the people of his state!!!

  • “They only hear what they want to hear”. Seems to me I’ve heard the term “black ball” from the past.

  • Cody

    As I have said for a long time, When you have to vote for the lesser of two evils, either way you’re voting for evil.

  • Barry soetoro

    Your all idiots. You wanna say the only conspiracy and things done wrong in Benghazi and I.r.s. are committed by republicans than you guys need to lay off the kool aid. You guys think we should be having talks with the Taliban too!? Do you have absolutely no comprehension skills about what blindly following someone makes you look like?

  • Robert

    This article and the evidence in it don’t prove what the title states. It claims that because one man’s account of something showed no evidence to prove that a conspiracy exists, that the conspiracy doesn’t exist. This would mean that we’d be trusting his words over others and that a lack of evidence proves something to not exist. I’m not claiming that the collaboration happened, but this article is as fallacious as possible. I was expecting the transcripts to be something like the transcripts for the 157 visits to the White House by Douglas Shulman. The IRS White House collaboration might or might not have happened, but this article proves absolutely nothing.

  • MikeCumpston

    To whatever extent the headcount knows that there have been controversies regarding IRS targeting of non-democrats and the Bengazi abandonment stems from the secret incursions on the Associated Press’ communications. In the ordinary course of events, such things as Fast and Furious/ Executive privilege are not promoted by the wire services and what little reporting is done consists of the democrat spin. In the current environment though the offended media has gone ahead and diseminated the information. The blame lies not with republicans but with a ruling elite stupid enough to attack it’s own spin machine.
    Still, any collusion between Obama and the IRS would be a real reach. The career bureaucrats running the IRS don’t need any presidential encouragement to go after their cultural enemies.

  • JBang

    I wish the Democrats and Republicans would quit their destructive, co-corupt B.S. and start making decisions based on the bests interests of the U.S. and its people. The reason China is making so much progress is because that is exactly what they are doing for themselves.

  • disqus_mIocQCNBEa

    LOL Fast and Furious, Benghazi, IRS, DOJ, EPA, NSA (except mosques) State Dept cover-ups of pedophiles and prostitutes., arming radical Muslims, making speaking out against Islam a Federal crime, boarders wide open and unsecured, gas prices climbing again…yep nothing to see hear at all… This administration has it all under control! (chuckle)

  • vissionquest

    Why won’t anyone believing in this conspiracy-answer the question why should the tea party not be investigated. They claimed to be a non-profit groups with only a small amount of there purpose and focus on politics. They lied on their application to the IRS, they broke the rules and they taught other tea party groups to lie. Now they are claiming foul that they were caught being dishonest. When the pattern was noticed it was passed on to “Washington”. Please give me one thing that the tea-party did that qualified them for their non-profit status. You love to throw stones but can’t stand facts.

  • Lamine Elabed

    Issa is a fraud, an arson, a car thief and a criminal for defrauding the insurance company. Google Darrell Issa and the courage compaign and see for yourself: issawatch

  • Jim

    Amen to that !!