Delusional Republican Congressman Gets Called Out for his Stupidity — On Fox News

jordanYou know it’s getting bad for the GOP when anybody on Fox News grows tired of the delusional nature of some of these radical right-wing Republican members of Congress.

But that’s what happened this morning when Fox News’ Chris Wallace (who’s probably the best of the worst on the network) grew tired of Ohio Representative Jim Jordan’s continued insistence that “Obamacare” could be defeated.

Here’s the video, via Fox News:

After Jordan continued to talk up the possibility of repealing “Obamacare,” Wallace fired back at the congressman, saying:

“There’s a widespread feeling in Washington, maybe right, maybe wrong, that you’re going to have to accept in the House something that you hate, because, quite frankly, the perception is that you misplayed your hands on Obamacare.  According to a Wall Street Journal poll this week, 53% now have a negative view of the GOP, that’s the worst rating since the Wall Street Journal started polling in 1989 — and support for Obamacare has actually gone up in the last month from 31% to 38% despite all the massive problems with the rollout.  Right or wrong, has your strategy of linking Obamacare to all these things backfired big time?”

But Jordan wouldn’t have any of it, and continued to perpetuate right-wing talking points:

“We need to delay this law, plain and simple.  You can look at the polls and whatever, but we were elected to stand for certain principles.  The vast majority of the American people still know this law doesn’t work, the President knows this law doesn’t work.”

Wallace, seemingly agitated, once again tried to talk some sense into Jordan:

“I understand your argument, but the fact is, when Paul Ryan had his op-ed in the Wall Street Journal, it never mentioned Obamacare. When John Boehner offered the House Republican plan, which would have extended the debt ceiling and had these budget talks, he never mentioned Obamacare.  It feels like that has left the station.”

And still, Jordan seem undeterred by reality:

“There’s still a lot of members of the House of Representatives who understand that Obamacare is unfair.  Look, I want to repeal it.  We understand that’s not going to happen with this president.  All we’re asking for is delay it.  Delay it for individual members just like you did for members of Congress.  That is such a simple, fair, basic argument, consistent with what makes our country such a special country: equal protection under the law.”


Wallace, with his patience obviously wearing thin, laid it out simply for the congressman:

“But you’re never going to get that through!”

At this point, Jordan made the argument that Republicans aren’t wrong, they just need to make a better argument.  Wallace then asked the congressman if he understood the damage the GOP was suffering from this shutdown.  Of course, the congressman clearly didn’t understand anything.  He basically denied polling numbers, reality and facts for what he feels should be right and wrong.

Basically, Wallace reiterated to Jordan that the American people are blaming Republicans, their strategy is a failure and they won’t succeed in delaying, defunding or repealing “Obamacare”—but none of that had any impact on Jordan’s insistence that they’re in the right.

This interview is a perfect example of the delusion seen in so many right-wing members of Congress.  They simply don’t “get it.”  Even when confronted by Fox News on basic facts, they still seem unable to understand even the simplest of concepts.

Right now you’re seeing Republicans shifting this shutdown from an effort to stop “Obamacare” to being about the debt ceiling, in an attempt to not walk away from this whole fiasco looking like complete idiots.  Something Wallace tried to point out to Rep. Jordan, yet Jordan seemed unable to grasp.

Apparently, he didn’t get that memo.

But at the end of the day, you know things are getting bad for Republicans when Fox News is calling out the GOP for being out of touch with reality.  Something Ohio Representative Jim Jordan put on full display.

Allen Clifton

Allen Clifton is a native Texan who now lives in the Austin area. He has a degree in Political Science from Sam Houston State University. Allen is a co-founder of Forward Progressives and creator of the popular Right Off A Cliff column and Facebook page. Be sure to follow Allen on Twitter and Facebook, and subscribe to his channel on YouTube as well.

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  • DownriverDem

    Folks who support Jordan are as delusional as he is. It is the other repubs that have to do something or we will be destroyed. Who is left to do it?

  • Notdelusional

    It’s like election night with Karl Rove and the number games w/the blonde. He just could not believe Romney was losing even when she showed him the numbers and went down to the other office to show him AGAIN. Delusional. I hope Congress’ mental health care insurance great.

    • Eruanion Nolaquen

      There was an article out at that time about how Anonymous found a “tunnel” program in the election computers and shut it with their own firewall. The power goes out in Ohio’s election offices, the info gets shunted to Tennessee, and different numbers come back, if it works the way it was supposed to. They think that is why he was wrong

  • Bad Kev

    you can call yourselves forward and progressive. you can be liberal. i’m fine with that. but don’t flat out lie in your headlines and twist the truth. that makes you no better than foxnews. this is yellow journalism at best. wallace asked some fair questions, but never really called the congressman out on his ridiculous claims. you’re just making stuff up and it costs you credibilty.

    • Kirk welch

      what did you want Wallace to do, call the man an idiot on National TV? He pushed the point as far as he could and finally, like so many others that have tried to get a straight answer to simple questions only to be stonewalled by rhetoric he gave up in frustration.
      I hate giving Fox or any of their so called journalist perks but Wallace did as much as he could.
      You might also want to consider the FACT that even karl Rove and the Koch Brothers who basically fund the Fox Entertainment Channel are fed up with the Tea party antics as they know what the cost will be if we default and I assure you when the Kochs say jump Fox asks “How High”

      • Bad Kev

        you totally missed my point. if this website twists the truth or lies about their content, then they have no credibility, and are no better than foxnews. i’m not going to come here to read a bunch of left wing propaganda. either tell it straight or i’m out.

      • KCMOfan

        I think what you are used to ingesting is Foxygen. Maybe you should stay out of areas, where truth makes you angry.

      • thejudy64

        They seem to not want to hear the Truth !! Some people would rather be Lied to then know the truth !! They do not want to live in Reality, that is what is wrong with most Republicans they live in a make-believe World !

      • Rick

        I get you, Kev. I also get the others. What you mean is that by the title it seemed he would be more severe on the man as in how Fox News is to most all Democrats who approach their network. However they will not do that to a fellow republican. What Wallace did was about the best they could do. The thing is they can’t call out a republican harshly like they would a Democrat because they’re only allies who will take in all the spoonfed BS they spout are the Republicans. They cannot alienate them without alienating themselves. As far as this site. It’s obviously left leaning. That’s a big DUH! However the key difference between this and Yellow Journalism is that this isn’t journalism. It’s a series of opinionated articles. They aren’t reporting anything to you but their opinions. Then they back those opinions with factual data so you know why they think what they think. If they didn’t use that data then they’d just seem like crackpots for jumping so Far Left with those opinions. It’s damn near exactly what Fox does minus the Factual Data. Which is why most with the Far Right seem like crackpots. They don’t have that Factual Data.

      • Debbie Lass

        A- FRICKEN- MEN! Very well said and spot on.

      • fnnkybutt

        I get your point, Kev. I have this issue with several Liberal websites (HuffPost is really bad). They super hype the headlines, and make it sound (in this case) like Wallace ripped the guy to shreds.. and really, all he did was ask questions and get a little exasperated with the answers. (And I’m probably more liberal than Ariana Huffington)

      • ziggywiggy

        “Delusional Republican Congressman Gets Called Out for his Stupidity”
        doesn’t sound anything like ripping someone to shreds, it sounds like exactly what happened. The definition of to ‘Call out’ is to challenge someone in some way.. If the issue is describing the congressman as delusional/stupid that’s obviously an opinion of the writer, but seems quite correct.

      • Debbie Lass

        but you miss the point in that for Wallace of FOX NEWS to be agitated and irritated and questioning six different ways to get this republican to see what they are doing is not good….IS in conservative land exactly as if he ripped a democrat to shreds……only he was being politically correct” about it (pun intended) because it is a conservative news show and a conservative congressman he was interviewing….

      • Debbie Lass

        no truth was twisted……the congressman in fact was being held to the fire by Wallace……its clear Wallace was frustrated with him and asked the questions many different ways to see if he would even acknowledge how their behavior has hurt the republican party and the answers clearly show delusion on the part of the congressman…..a child holding his breath is more like how it comes across. What did this article say that was untrue or a twisting of truth on?

      • Kirk welch

        trust me Brother I have called them out on several articles that smacked of Left Wing Propaganda. The Republicans and the Tea Party don’t need any help making complete fools of themselves and there is no reason to twist, spin, sensationalize or otherwise skew the truth.
        Liberals pushed Obama to the Presidency by using facts not Faux Entertainment like propaganda. We don’t need to start that now.
        If I missed the point of your post I apologize.

      • Bad Kev

        you see how many downvotes i got? noone wants to hear it. people would rather be told what they want to hear than the truth. this is why the tea party has as many followers as they do. and being left wing and playing the same propaganda game is just as ignorant and just as dangerous. thanks for the support.

  • disqus_nKedO3YCSt

    Wow can you imagine how awesome it would be if Fox has news?

  • Brenda Porter

    I saw this clip earlier, and almost, but not quite, felt sorry for the guy. “It’s not fair.” “We just want to delay it.” Whine, whine. What? Delay it for 3 years in the hopes of a GOP administration? Don’t hold your breath, because after this latest fiasco, that’s just not going to happen.

    • sdpt45

      Someone needs to tell him life’s not fair. But what is fair is that his party lost the presidential election and only has a majority in one chamber of Congress–suggesting the “vast majority” of Americans don’t agree with him or the constituents in his gerrymandered district.

      • TREP

        IT IS NOT A GERRYMANDERED DISTRICT AND ONE THIG YOU LIBERAL A HOLES NEED TO UNDERSTAND IS THAT THE HOUSE WAS WON BY THE MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE AND THE HOUSE IS DOING THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE AND IF OBAMACARE IS NOT FUNDED THEN HOW WILL IT WORK? IT WILL NOT WORK EVEN IF IT IS FUNDED. NAME ONE COUNTRY WHERE COMMUNIST HEALTHCARE WORKS? YOU CAN NOT NAME ONE BECAUSE IT DOES NOT WORK AND NEVER WILL.

      • joe no body

        Actually if you look at the vote totals democrats received more votes than did Republicans in the house. The only reason they have the gavel is gerrymandering! It is not communist healthcare! No government owned hospitals, no government employed doctors and nurses! The us military has what could be called communist healthcare! The Vatican has communist healthcare.

      • TREP

        I DO NOT LIVE IN THE VATICAN AND HAVE HAD THE MILITARY HEALTH CARE. IT DOES NOPT WORK. BUT PLEASE ANSWER WHICH COUNTRY HAS BETTER HEALTHCARE THAN WE HAD?

      • Demi Andre

        Hi Trep, I live in Australia. We have had Universal Healthcare for almost 40 years, called Medicare. Our GDP for healthcare is 8%, for the US, its 16%…basically, your country is paying twice as much as ours does for only some of your citizens. The US is only one of a handful of countries which do not have universal healthcare, or some kind of similar system. The US is ranked 37th on healthcare, under Slovenia. Here, private insurance for a single person is around $1200 per year. Regarding Medicare we have our choice of doctors, as many times a week as we need, no one ever loses sleep over healthcare, no one loses their homes. Also, we have a right wing government and neither right or left would ever try and get rid of it because it would be political suicide.

        I honestly, and with respect, looking from the outside feel that religion and fear of ‘communism’ is being used to confuse people. Its this simple, you have elections to vote for a government which should make it easier to live your life. ACA and our Medicare does that, its cheaper, fewer people will die or suffer, or go into debt, many will be able to heal and get back to work too. Its a good thing, its practical and that is what it is all about. Its not about Jesus and its not about a political party or ideology. Its just about a good idea that will save money and many…as it has around the globe, in many countries, which are left and right politically.

        Please consider what I have said and what many people around the world who have this healthcare tell you. There are a lot of self-interested people out there trying to muddy the waters and confuse people. Please give this a chance.

      • TREP

        DEMI IF YOU HEALTHCARE IS SO GREAT THEN WHY DO THE WORLD LEADERS AS WELL AS ORDINARY CITIZENS COME HERE FOR OPERATIONS AND OTHER MEDICAL PROCEDURES.IF OUR SYSTEM IS SO BAD WHY ARE OUR CITIZENS NOT FLOCKING TO YOUR UTOPIA?I’LL TELL YOU WHY, IT IS NOT THE TRUTH.IF GOVERNMENT RUN HEALTHCARE WAS SO GOOD PEOPLE WOULD BE FLOCKING TO AUSTRALIA AND OTHER SOCIALIZED COUNTRIES FOR MEDICAL PROCEDURES.
        IF GOVERNMENT RUN HEALTHCARE IS SO GREAT WHY IS CONGRESS AND THE PRESIDENT EXEMPT?IF IT IS ALL ABOUT BETTER HEALTHCARE THEN WHY IS THE IRS IN CHARGE INSTEAD OF THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH?THIS WAS SHOVED DOWN THE THROATS OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLEAGAINST OUR WILL, IT IS NOT ABOUT HEALTHCARE IT IS ABOUT THE GOVERNMENT CONTROLLING THE PEOPLE.

      • Jesse

        People continue to come to the United States because of our doctors. The interesting thing about running our healthcare like a business is that it attracts the best medical professionals because they all know that they will be woefully overpaid for their work. In a universal healthcare system there is a greater emphasis placed on primary care, that is preventative medicine. The pay is reduced for the doctors, but the cost is also reduced for the patients. Through a simple application of preventative healthcare we can catch and treat ailments early on rather than having to send a patient on to endure a costly procedure to “fix” them, we “maintain” them instead. Now as great as it is to have some of the greatest doctors in the world it serves merely as a boasting point for vast majority of the country due to the fact that they cannot really afford their services. And that is why foreigners come here for difficult procedures. Also I apologize for all the people attacking you for the way that you type, please continue to type in whichever way makes you happy.

      • Corey James

        Try doing a little research and actually figuring out which counties use socialized health care. I have friends in the UK and in Canada who LOVE their healthcare and do not understand what the hell is wrong with this country.

        You might have a hard time finding research that isn’t in the lunatic font known as “TYPING IN ALL CAPS FOR NO GOOD REASON” though. Make sure you have a pair of glasses around.

      • TREP

        I’LL TYPE ANY WAY I WANT, ESPECIALLY IF IT PISSES DICKWEEDS OFF

      • Guenter

        TREP: Loser! The guy from Australia is right. You just don’t have enough brain cells to grasp it.

      • TREP

        GUENTER IF THE SYSTEM IN SOCIALIZED COUNTRIES IS SO GREAT THEN WHY DO WORLD LEADERS COME HERE FOR SERIOUS MEDICAL TREATMENT? WHY ARE THE PEOPLE OF THE WORLD NOT FLOCKING TO SOCIALIST COUNTRIES FOR HEALTHCARE? NICE TRY”LOSER”, BUT WE ALREADY HAD THE BEST SYSTEM IN THE WORLD,YOU MUST HAVE LOST SOME OF YOUR BRAIN CELLS IN YOUR SOCIALIZED UTOPIA.

      • Guenter

        TRP..you’re comparing apples with oranges…having good and expensive doctors that only rich people can afford, has nothing to do with a good health care system. ALSO; TELL ME ONE COUNTRY THAT HAS ALL HOSPITALS; DOCTORS; INSURANCE COMPANIES ; PHARMACIES ETC: OWNED BY THE GOVERNMENT; PLEASE: THAT WOULD BE SOCIALISM: Please read again what our friend from Australia said and let it sink in. Our health care system is ranked 37th, not first. Also think about the fact that the world’s first universal health care system was introduced by an emporer who was anything else than a socialist or communist. He just knew what was good for the majority of his people.

      • TREP

        AND STILL ALL YOU DO IS SPOUT SOCIALIST IDEALS AND TALKING POINTS.I AM FAR FROM RICH AND HAVE HAD SEVERAL OPERATIONS HERE THAT I WOULD STILL BE WAITING FOR UNDER YOUR SOCIALIST MEDICINE.NOT UNDER GOVERNMENT CONTROL, THEN TELL ME WHY IS THE GOVERNMENT IN CHARGE OF OBAMACARE? THE GOVERNMENT HAS OUR MEDICAL RECORDS, WHY? THE GOVERNMENT IS IN CHARGE OF THE “INSURANCE” NOW. MY DAUGHTER HAS A FRIEND THAT WAS ALL FOR SOCIALIST OBAMACARE UNTIL HER $600 A MONTH WELFARE CHECK WAS TAKEN BY THE GOVERNMENT TO PAY FOR HER NEW HEALTHCARE. SOUNDS LIKE GOVERNMENT CONTROL TO ME.THE GOVERENMENT FORCES YOU TO PAY FOR SOMETHING YOU DO NOT WANT AND TAKES THE MONEY FROM YOU IF YOU DO NOT PAY. AND WHO IS TO SAY THAT A GOVERNMENT OFFICIAL TELLING ME OR MY DOCTOR WHAT CARE I AM TO GET AND HOW MUCH THE GOVERNMENT WILL PAY FOR IT. IF YOU LOVE YOU SOCIALIST CARE SO MUCH KEEP IT .JUST DON’T FUCK WITH THE BEST SYSTEM IN THE WORLD AND TELL US THAT YOU HAVE SOMETHING BETTER.IF IT IS SO DAMN GOOD THEM MAKE IT SO IT IS NOT MANDITORY AND SEE HOW MANY PEOPLE SIGN UP FOR IT.SO FAR A GRAND TOTAL OF 51,000 AMERICANS HAVE SIGNED UP FOR THIS GOVERNMENT GRAB OF OUR FREEDOMS. DOESN’T SOUND SO GREAT TO ME.

      • Guenter

        By the way, Germany has had Univiversal Healthcare for more than 100 years, quite a bit longer than Australia. It started, when Germany still had an Emporer. An Emporer a socialist or communist? You gotta be kidding!

      • Tamara Slank

        Demi, you need to rest your case on this person. Run out of logic so resort to name calling? Not ever going to listen. Not smart enough.

      • TREP

        FUNNY THING ABOUT LOGIC AND NAME CALLING, LOGIC AND FACTS ARE “NEVER” USED BY SOCIALISTS BECAUSE THEY HAVE NO FACTS TO USE.

      • Lock

        Did you even read what Guenter said?? You asked some question, and he answered them. So now what do you have to say about it??

      • TREP

        TELL ME ONE QUESTION HE ANSWERED.ALL HE DID WAS SPOUT A BUNCH OF SOCIALIST TALKING POINTS.OH OUR WAY IS SO MUCH BETTER. IF IT IS THEN WE WILL NO LONGER ALLOW FOREIGNERS TO COME HERE FOR SURGERY OR ANY OTHER TREATMENT.

      • Guenter

        TREP..you call things “socialist” that aren’t socialist. That disqualifies you as a serious debater, Another dumbass argument of yours is not allowing foreigners to come here for treatment. You mean, you wanna cut off earnings for those poor doctors that need to treat foreigners? So many other people here than me have tried to make you understand the real world. You just don’t. Good luck to you!

      • TREP

        GUENTER, A PIG WITH LIPSTICK IS STILL A PIG.TAKE YOU TALKING POINTS AND MOVE TO HAVANA WHERE COMRADE CASTRO WILL SURELE WELCOME YOU WITH OPEN ARMS

      • Guenter

        LOL…all you need is brain surgery…..and I forgot one thing: Never argue with an idiot. Sorry I did. It’s all my fault.

      • TREP

        SO SORRY YOU ARE AN IDIOT WON’T HOLD IT AGAINST YOU.AND IF ANY SURGERY IS NEEDED HOPE YOU CAN COME HERE WHERE WE HAVE REAL DOCTORS AND HOSPITALS. BUT YOU BETTER HURRY, THE GOVERNMENT WILL BE TAKING OVER SOON.

      • Guenter

        FYI I am an American citizen, have been living here for more than 31 years. I already have good medical insurance, something that Obamacare will give ALL Americans who need it desperately. I have had surgery in Germany and the US. No difference, my friend. I am repeating my question to you: How many countries, that you call “socialist”, have you visited?

      • TREP

        HAVE BEEN TO 23 COUNTRIES IN THE MILITARY INCLUDING YOUR PRECIOUS GERMANY THAT WAS AS MEDEVIL AS CAN BE. YOU MAY LIKE THE GOVERNMENT CONTROLLING YOU AND YOUR HEALTHCARE BUT I HAVE LIVED IT AND DO NOT HAVE ANYTHING GOOD TO SEE IN IT

      • Cheryl Dieter

        You obviously have not been to Germany where it works very well. Or to Portugal. Or the Netherlands. Or Sweden. I suggest that you learn a little more about those health care systems.

      • TREP

        YEP THEIR SYSTEMS ARE WORKING SO GREAT THAT THEY ARE COMING HERE FOR TREATMENT AND SURGERY

      • Guenter

        Apples and oranges, my friend….

      • TREP

        GUENTER, WHAT PART OF WE DO NOT WANT THE GOVERNMENT IN CHARGE OF OUR HEALTHCARE DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND? ARE YOU SO BRAINWASHED TO UNDERSTAND THAT HEALTHCARE IS BETWEEN A PATIENT AND THE DOCTOR WITHOPUT A GOVERNMENT PANEL DICTATING WHAT HAPPENS. THE GOVERNMENT HAS NO RIGHT TO MY HEALTHCARE RECORDS. ANYTHING THAT IS WRONG IS NONE OF THEIR F#$%ING BUSINESS. IF YOU WANT TO BE SUBSERVIANT MORE POWER TO YOU , COWARD.. I WILL NOT GIVE MY FREEDOM TO “ANY” GOVERNMENT OR IDIOT THAT WANTS TO CONTROL MY LIFE.IF YOU LOVE BEING A SLAVE TO YOU GOVERNMENT THEN BY ALL MEANS BEND OVER AND TAKE IT LIKE A GOOD LITTLE SOCIALIST. I BOW TO NO ONE.

      • haven923

        You are a funny little billiken at that. Tell me, just how red does your face get with all this virtual shouting?

      • TREP

        AS RED AS THE COMMUNIST TATOO YOU GOOD PEOPLE HAVE

      • haven923

        Then you should fit right in. Welcome, comrade.

      • TREP

        NO COMMIE HERE, KILLED THEM WHILE IN THE ARMY DEFENDING MY COUNTRY AGAINST COMMIES LIKE YOU.

      • haven923

        “Better dead than red,” cool. Then you’re sure to vote Democratic in the next election. I knew you couldn’t really be the wingnut you’re pretending to be. No one could be that delusional.

      • TREP

        MY GOD THE DEMOCRAT PARTY IS RUN BY COMMUNISTS. WOULD NOT WALK ACROSS THE STREET TO PISS ON ONE IF THE BASTARD WAS ON FIRE…

      • haven923

        You know, Trep, you’re just spitting in the wind with all your nonsensical “Communist” blather. You’re largely being laughed at. It’s kind of sad, really, the frightening little world you occupy. In fact, given that the majority of Americans voted for the Democratic (btw Democratic is the proper term) Party, and Republicans lost the last five national elections, it must be terrifying for you. The thing about the Republicans only holding the House because of gerrymandered districts is true. Numbers don’t lie and Democrats received about 1.5 million more votes in House elections than Republicans. And your not believing that doesn’t make it any less true.

        But, I get it, it’s safer, in your mind to hold onto the bile you’re spewing. You need an enemy to rail against to maintain your red, white and blue bona fides. All so-called “conservatives” do. This latest humiliating right-wing defeat in Congress must really burn you. Knowing that there are more to come must be equally difficult. And, until you recognize that the world only spins forward, you only have more loss in your future.

        Finally, let me assure you, if I saw you on fire, I’d gladly piss on you. Please, no need to thank me.

      • TREP

        haven923IF YOUR COMMUNIST PARTY WON THE LAST FIVE NATIONAL ELECTIONS THEN PLEASE EXPLAIN GEORGE BUSH TO ME, THE REPUBS WINNING THE HOUSE IN 2010, AND THE FACT THAT YOUR COMMUNIST PRESIDENT ACTUALLY GOT FEWER VOTES( MORE ELECTORIAL VOTES) THAT AN IDIOT LIKE ROMNEY.THE ONLY BILE I SEE FROM YOU IS WHAT YOU ARE FEEDING ON AND STORING BETWEEN YOUR EARS. WHEN EVER A CONSERVATIVE RUNS ON THE ISSUES THEY WIN. COMMUNISTS HAVE TO LIE THROUGH THEIR TEETH TO GET IDIOTS LIKE YOU TO BELIEVE IN THEIR UTOPIA.AND IF AS YOU SAYTHE COMMUNISTS ARE WINNING ALL THESE ELECTIONS THEN I GUESS THAT THEY ARE THE ONES GERRYMANDERING THE DISTRICTS, SO FUCKING STUIPID THEY CAN NOT EVEN DO THAT RIGHT, LIKE EVERYTHING ELSE THEY DO.AND AS FAR AS PISSING, PISS ON YOURSELF FOR YOUR OWN SELF GRATIFICATION. WOULD NOT WANT TO BE SOILED BY THE KOOL-AID BY PRODUCTS.

      • haven923

        And we come full circle, you are a funny little billiken. Poking you with a stick really isn’t fair. I understand that facts are only a liberal plot in your world and you can’t help being a dimwit. Fortunately for you, the “communists” who keep winning U.S. elections stood-up for the ACA and you can get mental health services.

      • TREP

        SO THE REPUBS WON THE HOUSE AND STOOD UP FOR WHAT THEY WERE ELECTED AND YOU DO NOT LIKE THAT FACT.I KNOW FACTS ARE HARD FOR YOU TO ACCEPT BUT TRY.

      • haven923

        You know, TREP, your flailing about defending Republicans, in response to an article entitled,
        “Delusional Republican Congressman Gets Called Out for his Stupidity — On Fox News” reflects back on you in a most amusing way. As for the ones who “WON THE HOUSE,” it delights me to no end how after all the posturing they’ve fallen flat on their asses for all the world to see. The “FACT” is, the circular firing squad is out and they are becoming more and more marginalized from the real world. So, on the contrary, I like it just fine. And now that you’ve renounced your “red” affiliations, and will be voting Democratic, don’t you?

      • TREP

        SORRY THAT YOU ARE A COMMUNIST, WILL NOT HOLD IT AGAINST YOU LIKE THE LEFT DOES TO ANYONE THAT WILL HAVE THE GUTS TO STAND AGAINST AND FIGHT FOR FREEDOM. “FREEDOM” THE WORD THAT DRIVES LEFTIES “NUTS”

      • haven923

        I have a confession. I’ve been goading you along for my own entertainment. But the more you SPEW (btw, those caps are for you) the more I realize how frightened you are. Your narrow world view is shrinking every day. There’s a black man in the White House who’s been elected twice, gays can serve openly in the military, States and whole countries are ratifying marriage equality, the U.S. is getting progressively browner and how dare anyone think that greater access to affordable health care is the right thing to do. From your perspective, fully equipped with right-wing blinders, the world must be terrifying. How could it not be a result of scary Communism?

        I’m sure those blinders are comforting in some way. But, If you ever decide to take them off, I predict you’ll see an extraordinarily diverse nation of people exercising their FREEDOM to fully participate in the great American experiment. And while you may find that hard to imagine, in the rest of the world, that’s a good thing.

        I actually suspect you’re a fraud who’s paid to blather in the comment section of progressive websites. Still, because you’ve exposed so fully how scared so-called conservatives are, something I thoroughly appreciate, I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt. And some advice: breathe.

        Thanks

      • TREP

        ANOTHER PSYCO ANALIZED LIBERAL THAT NEEDS MENTAL HEALTH HELP. FIRST OFF YOU KNOW NOTHING OF WHAT YOU TALK. A “BLACK MAN” IN THE WHITEHOUSE.THOUGHT HE WAS OF MIXED RECE IF IT MAKE A DIFFERENCE.AND YOU TALK OF AMERICA BECOMING MORE BROWN, TO AN AMERICAN INDIAN WITH ASIAN CHILDREN DOES IT MAKE A DIFFERENCE WHAT THE COLOR OF THEIR SKIN IS? ONLY TO TRUE RACISTS LIKE LIBERALS DOES IT MATTER.YOU BLATHER ABOUT GAYS, WILL HAVE TO TALK TO MY GAY UNCLE ABOUT THAT. EVEN HE LAUGHS AT THE “GAY” MARRIAGE ISSUE. MARRIAGE, A RELIGIOUS FUNCTION JUDGED AND HIJACKED BY THOSE THAT OTHERWISE HATE RELIGION. THERE IS HUMOR IN THERE SOMEWHERE. AS FAR AS YOUR BLINDERS, I HAVE SEEN YOUR LIBERAL BS IN COUNTRIES AROUND THE WORLD AND AM GLAD TO LIVE IN COUNTRY THAT USED TO BE FREE.IF LIBERALS WANT THEIR SOCIALIST IDEALS SO BAD I CAN NOT UNDERSTAND WHY THEY DO NOT MIGRATE TO SOCIALIST COUNTRIES. THE ONLY THING I CAN COME UP WITH IS THAT IT IS TO EASE YOUR TWISTED MINDS THAT YOURS IS THE ONLY WAY. SO WITH THAT I WILL END WITH THE ONE THING YOU HATE THE MOST. I WILL DIE A FREE MAN RATHER THAN SUBMITT TO THE YOLK OF TYRANNY.

      • Jesse

        Please, correct me if I am wrong. It just seems that what you have listed in defense of your arguments could be misconstrued as conservative talking points? Silly of me really, I just jumped to that conclusion because they all seem to lack any empirical backing whereas much of what I and my fellow internet commenters have brought up are based in proven analysis of data taken from countries all over the world? If you want empirical, look no farther than the fact that the United States of America is ranked 37th in healthcare in the world. I am sure you can clear up all these little misunderstandings

      • Guenter

        TREP, have you ever travelled to those countries you call socialist? Or any other not “socialist” country?

      • haven923

        While you conveniently don’t identify all of these people coming to the US for medical care, you’re also confusing quality of care with accessibility. Shouldn’t your fellow Americans have equal access to the high quality healthcare system you are “loudly” defending? And if not, why not?

      • TREP

        EVERY AMERICAN HAS ACCESS TO QUALITY HEALTHCARE. ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS PAY. MANY DO NOT HAVE ENOUGH MONEY AND WHERE I LIVE FUND RAISERS ARE HELD TO HELP THEM PAY. THE ONLY PEOPLE THAT DO NOT GET THE HEALTHCARE ARE THOSE THAT WANT THINGS GIVEN TO THEM.I HAVE HAD SEVERAL SURGERIES AND PAID WHAT WAS NOT COVERED BY MAKING PAYMENTS.IT WAS A NOVEL IDEA, CALLED TAKING CARE OF YOURSELF AND NOT HAVING THE GOVERNMENT TAKE CARE OF YOU.

      • haven923

        “…TAKING CARE OF YOURSELF AND NOT HAVING THE GOVERNMENT TAKE CARE OF YOU.” You mean like with Medicare, Social Security, the Veteran’s Administration, FEMA and other “Communist” stuff like that?

      • TREP

        NOT LATELY, BUT NEPHEW IS IN GERMANY. HIS LITTLE BOY NEEDS MEDICAL ATTENTION, SAYS THE HOSPITALS LOOK LIKE SOMETHING OUT OF A HORROR MOVIE.CAN’T WAIT TO GET BACK HERE TO GET REAL MEDICAL ATTENTION.

      • Guenter

        Your nephew is such a liar…why don’t you go to Germany yourself and find out? German hospitals are much more sanitary than most American hospitals. I have lived there for more than 40 years. I have been living in the US for more than 31 years. Just came back from a visit to Germany. Nothing has changed: Your nephew is such a liar.

      • TREP

        YOU CAN’T HANDLE THE TRUTH

      • Guenter

        But you can handle lies very well! Why don’t you ever answer my question?>>>>> FYI I am an American citizen, have been living here for more than 31 years. I already have good medical insurance, something that Obamacare will give ALL Americans who need it desperately. I have had surgery in Germany and the US. No difference, my friend. I am repeating my question to you: How many countries, that you call “socialist”, have you visited?

      • Guenter

        So, you visited 23 countries with your eyes and ears closed. Wow. But maybe you noticed in what countries the hospitals, doctor offices, pharmacies, health insurance companies were owned by the government. If you did, please tell me.

      • TREP

        DID NOT USE THEM AS I HAD THE BEST HEALTHCARE SYSTEM IN THE WORLD TO COME BACK TO FOR HEALTHCARE.WOULD NOT USE WITCH DOCTORS AND VOO DOO HEALTHCARE WHEN YOU KNOW YOU CAN COME HOME AND GET THE BEST.

  • GoFig

    They fail to say that removing the individual mandate would derail the Affordable Care Act and the core reason for it to work. The GOP still thinks people are stupid but the poll numbers show that the majority see past their games.

  • Ryan Sebrasky

    HOW has this been a “disaster” wtf is he talking about?

  • Ryan Sebrasky

    Wallace is literally calling him a mo-ron but this guys bubble is so thick it simply does not penetrate.

  • jesstifer

    “Fairness under the law.” Like, if the poorest were to have the exact same access to healthcare as the richest?

  • thomas_r

    Politics mess up your brains’ ability to do math.
    (That goes for both sides, by the way.)
    Confirmation bias.

  • Mike Williams

    “Even when confronted by Fox News on basic facts”

    What are you trying to say? That sentence has so many contradicting elements…Fox news…Facts….mind boggling…

  • Susan Coon

    I think that some of the republicans are so narrow-minded and can only see their way. When you ask a political question to a republican they dance around it and never have a complete answer. They only think that their way is the only way. They should come together and give 1 year to obamacare to see if it works, and the if it doesn’t then get rid of it., but give it a chance. Some people don’t understand what it is like Not to have insurance because they can’t afford it. The republicans say it won’t work but cannot offer a better choice. Something has to be done with healthcare to make it affordable, but the republicans aren’t offering anything on the situation other that it won’t work

  • jWd

    He’ll be voted out soon..

  • Dave

    Let them get stuck in their “perfect world for republicans” bubble….Remember Romney was stuck in this and thought he was going to win by a landslide…..they will hang themselves with this “strategy”…..please proceed GOP…….

  • radsenior

    TEA-type, pseudo-Republican Jim Jordan of Ohio is just as whacky as Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) and former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin. They are so full of themselves, they will lie, steal and cheat to get their way! All are totally out of touch except for their alliegence to the TEA party! Here’s an example of how the TEA-types enrage the people with lies and hippocracy! “Larry Klayman of Freedom Watch, a conservative political advocacy group, said the country is “ruled by a president who bows down to Allah,” and “is not a president of ‘we the people.'” Larry Klayman is scorching the earth and poisoning the wells to infuse his specific issues and against president Obama! What is significant is Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) and former Alaska Gov Sarah Palin, pushed through the barriers at war memorials and carried the barricades back to the White House, Confederate flags in tow! About that Confederate flag! The confederate flag represents an attitude which has been taught by parents, peers, partners, preachers or priests. The confederate flag represents a throw-back to pre-1960’s times when the n-word was used regularly and blacks were called “boy.” Anyone who openly displays the Confederate flag is a racist. The confederate flag represents bigotry, discrimination, prejudice and hatred of those who do not have white skin, look different, live different life styles or have a different sir-name. We’re going over the cliff and the TEA party and Republican party are to blame! They built it – They alone own IT!

  • Karen

    “Own it. Don’t fart and point at the dog!”

    – Jon Stewart

  • Denise

    exacyly how is obama care unfare? why is it these members of the gop seem to think it is ok for THEM obtain healthcare from taxpayer dollars-many of whom are wealthy and can afford to purchase their own healthcare, but have a hard time with taxpayers acquiring healthcare?

    if it is such a bad thing, why are the insurance companies not crying foul? this is a win for them. not only is it adding to their profit margin, acquiring new clients, but it means more hiring in the healthcare industry, which helps with unemployment. i’ve seen this compared to slavery and nazism? how is that even possible.the enslavement of a group of people and dehumanizing hem is pure evil. there is noting evil about acquiring healthcare insurance.

  • One of WeThePeople

    Where was all of your concern when YOU PASSED THE DAMNED BILL in the first place? What were you thinking? What was anyone thinking when they passed that behemoth without any understanding of what was in it? And NOW you want a do-over? Dude, you essentially sealed our fate when YOU and your cronies allowed the bill to pass. Deal with it and let’s try to make the best out of a questionable situation, just like the rest of the little folk do!

  • Pamela Stranc

    equal treatment of fairness? tell the corporations to pay the same % on income tax as that hard working single mother

  • Jim

    Whenever GOP cranks are cornered on their hypocritical and illogical stances, they always revert to grand phrases and ridiculous generalizations to escape. “This is about fairness.” Whatever, man, what is your concrete plan to do your job for the American people? It’s far too late to whine about “fairness” or whatever, the ACA is law. Grow up and do your job!

  • Erica

    I can’t stop laughing because I just can’t get past the fact that the most appalling thing in the world to them is affordable health care for everyone. Am I…am I missing something? This is “unfair” because…everyone….gets… to have it? W-w h a t.

    “We would rather this country be out of work COMPLETELY and not be able to pay their BILLS than have easy access to HEALTH CARE!!” That is all I’m hearing, and I can only just stare, utterly flabbergasted. How is this even a real thing that’s happening?

    • jdubhub68

      They’ve spent so many years repeating and repeating and repeating the same false narrative that they have rendered themselves incapable of considering another reality, even if it is the reality that most people share. That’s the disconnect between those continuing to cleave to the hope that the ACA can be repealed and the grudging acceptance by more moderate Republicans that it’s not going anywhere.

    • William Carr

      Don’t you know? To a Republican, nothing is more unfair than having to pay taxes.

      They live in a world where they can only be Rich if the majority of people are Poor.

      They firmly believe this.

      Nothing, NOTHING makes them more enraged than the idea of a poor person being helped with tax dollars.

  • Cindy

    All Congressional leaders were elected to represent their constituents but not at the cost of the American people. They were also elected to pass budgets.

    • rubinpatt

      40 to 49 percent of the people didn’t vote for them so they can’t really say that they are representing all the people in their district. They were elected in rigged districts.

  • KatieDancer

    Yeah, the single mother doesn’t need any stinking healthcare!

  • KatieDancer

    This guy is so, so, confused. Ohio loves Obamacare!

  • gemma liar

    the only reason FOX “news” keeps Wallace is that he is VERY neutral and is the ONLY light of rationale on that limping pseudo-Christian regressive KOCH bothers network If Wallace was let go the REAL media would gobble him up as he is a lot like his dad— direct and 2 the point. I think they should replace Wallace with glenn beck of Michelle ” no tits and hating life about it” malkin so we could REALLY have a ton of Hannity-esque canards on that show

  • PerryIdiot

    They keep talking about the poor single mothers …That single mother he was speaking of would get a tax credit so her healthcare would be free. They neglect to mention that when talking about the poor people who cannot afford it. Also, he said Congress was exempt from Obamacare .. umm no they are not! They just keep spewing lies.

  • Mr Wallace, the village just called. They want their idiot back.

  • The Vagabond

    First the Republicans’ goal by instigating the shut down wast to “defund ObamaCare”. That was the term they used. Now it’s “delay ObamaCare”. Damn, give them enough time and they’ll be saying affordable healthcare was their idea.

  • WideAwake

    Fighting for basic fairness??? Now that’s rich coming from a republican! How the hell can he say that with a straight face?

  • NWCommenter

    Notice that none of these congresspeople can answer questions outright. All they do is DANCE AROUND THE QUESTIONS… go figure… Listen, the GOP is done. You guys had your chance and you are more interested in scoring political points rather than legislating for THE PEOPLE!

  • NWCommenter

    How many software applications that were a version 1 were all that great? It takes time, and mind you, it’s the states where the ACA was not supported, is where all the problems are happening.

  • once a GOP

    Rep. Jordan is objecting that Congress is exempted from the Affordable Care Act; no problem, make them included.

  • justmepatc

    Where is he getting his information from concerning the affordable care act? I signed up on the 1st day & heard back by the 11th asking for proof of income (copy of tax return). I think everything has gone relatively easy & I’m so happy to finally be getting insurance after 3 years without it due to my premiums reaching $972 a month when I turned 59.

  • Eruanion Nolaquen

    Seriously? He went with the “equal protection under the law” comment? After all the bills protecting big business from the people? “There are none so blind as those who will not see.”

  • VALERIE MARTIN

    Here’s the problem with their complaint about delaying the

    mandate for businesses.
    The GOP think “Corporations are People”

    and well, they’re just not.
    Therefore, corporations don’t get sick…..
    Real People need health insurance.
    Why? Because well, they’re HUMAN &
    Humans get sick…….

  • majun

    I am really getting pissed with the way that the media are allowing the bald faced lies that Republicans routinely resort to, without ever challenging the clear lies. Fox may not be the MSM, but even in the MSM GOP reps routinely claim that Congress has exempted itself from Obamacare, which is an outright lie. What happened was a Republican Congressman introduced an amendment, requiring Congress and its employees to use the exchanges meant for individuals who did not have access to employer provided health care, even though no other group in the country in the same position were allowed to do so. It was the Republicans who proposed making a special case of Congress and its employees and it was done solely to embarrass Congressional Democrats, providing the GOP with a barely colorable claim that Congressional Democrats voted to exempt themselves from Obamacare when all they would have been doing is vote to NOT single out Congress and staff for special treatment. And then the Democrats called their bluff and voted for the amendment. The problem then arose that, because most Congressional staff make too much money to qualify for subsidies in the exchanges and they have been removed from the Federal Employees Health Benefits program, which provided a nice subsidy for their coverage, Congressional staff are getting screwed. There is no provision in the exchanges for the employers who don’t offer health care to subsidize their employees on the exchanges. Democrats are trying to address that inequity brought about because Republicans are a bunch of a$$holes, and the GOP is lying to make it look some kind of special privilege when in fact the special privilege is the fact that Congress isn’t being fined for failing to provide an employer sponsored health care plan as all other employers the size of Congress would suffer if they attempted to do what Congress did by amending the law to punish their own employees. I know it is complicated and difficult to fit into a short one or two minute segment, but somebody needs to just call these guys out when they lie like that.

  • dcrasta

    Republican rule #1 : Never answer a question, instead insert talking point about Obama. Man .. who elected this mental midget..