Don’t Like Wal-Mart’s Policies? Here’s An Idea… Don’t Shop There!

walmart-dont-shop-thereThis morning I had to run an errand up on 86th St. and Lexington Avenue. On the way, I stopped to get a mini bagel at a place on 86th and 1st. After waiting on the line for over 10 minutes, it was finally my turn to order. “Mini-bagel with cream cheese,” I said to the clerk.

His response?

“A mini bagel with cream cheese is the same price as a regular one.”

Wait, what? This may seem silly, but bear with me since I’m going to get to the bigger point in a minute.

In typical New Yorker fashion, I shouted back over the counter, “That doesn’t make any sense! Why would a bagel half the size cost me the same price?”

He responded, “That’s our policy, would you like a regular bagel instead?”

I retorted, “No, I don’t want a regular one. I’m trying to watch my carbs, but I am also not paying the same price for a mini bagel as a regular bagel costs.”

He replied, “Well, that’s the price.”

So, I walked out. There are 5 more bagel stores in a 5 block radius that sell mini bagels for less than the price of a regular one, and for a long time, I’ve been a fan of putting my money where my mouth is. In this case, in a literal sense.

Getting to the bigger picture. For the past few years, I’ve made it my goal not to shop at places where I disagree with the corporate policy. Generally speaking, I make an effort to shop at small mom and pop businesses as much as possible. Now, this isn’t always feasible — even in NYC where there is an abundance of locally owned small business — so I admit on occasion I do venture into corporate America land. Really, what makes it so difficult not to feed the beast is that almost every product sold these days in the US is produced by one of ten big corporations: Kraft, Coca-Cola, Pepsico, General Mills, Kellogg, Mars, Unilever, Johnson and Johnson, P&G, and Nestle.

However, with that being said, I find that the best way for me personally to show that I disagree with the actions a corporation takes, is to simply not shop there and not buy their products. If I am truly against something a corporation does, then why should I give them my hard earned money?

I haven’t been to a Wal-Mart in approximately 7 years, maybe more, but its been so long I can’t even remember exactly how long its been. I’d rather pay a little more elsewhere than give my money to a corporation that screws its employees in every way and at every opportunity they get. For example, according to the Daily Kos, “Walmart earns over $15 billion per year in pure profit.” 

Yet,

“Wal-Mart’s poverty wages force employees to rely on $2.66 billion in government help every year, or about $420,000 per store. In state after state, Wal-Mart employees are the top recipients of Medicaid. As many as 80 percent of workers in Wal-Mart stores use food stamps.Walmart’s employees receive $2.66 billion in government help every year, or about $420,000 per store.”

I haven’t had a Papa John’s pizza in several years either. Mind you, real NYC pizzeria pizza is much better (and if you are ever vacationing in NYC you would be a fool not to eat it), but ever since the CEO of Papa John’s, John Schnatter, announced that he would make his employees part time to avoid paying for their health insurance — and raise his prices — the deal was sealed. Never again.

Same goes for Whole Foods. While I like their stance on GMO labeling, ever since their CEO equated Obamacare to fascism, I haven’t shopped there either. I have the option (although I realize not everyone does) of going to Fairway, the Union Sq. Green Market, Trader Joes, or many other stores instead.

See, I just cannot stand giving my money to employers that underpay and underappreciate their employees. Wal-Mart, Papa John’s, McDonald’s, Whole Foods, et al. I’m looking at you.

Furthermore, anyone who thinks that there “isn’t a better way” because all companies have a goal of turning a profit and a fiduciary duty to their shareholders to do so, need not look any further than the business models of Costco, Starbucks, Google, et al. Yes, they are big corporate entities, but not all of them are completely evil. These companies make a tad bit less (and still bring in a fortune) but they do not do it on the backs of their employees. So yes, it can be done. There is a better way.

Also, it should be noted that a happy, decently paid, somewhat appreciated employee will work harder — thereby helping to increase both productivity and overall profits.

Instead, corporations like the ones I named above would rather spend billions to  go around the regulations, then to just comply with them. Their business models are designed to maximize profits at all costs, even if it means screwing the very people that make them rich. More importantly, when these employers cut corners on decent wages, the taxpayers end up having to pick up the slack with food stamps, Medicaid, and other public benefits. It’s not right, it’s not fair to the taxpayers, and truthfully, unless we change Congress they’re not going to fix it.

So, what can we do? Well, there’s an obvious solution. If we really want corporate welfare to end, it needs to be done by enacting stricter minimum wage laws and ending subsidies and corporate tax deductions that are only available to large corporations. The only way for this to happen is for Congress to act, and the only chance of that happening is if we change Congress. So for starters, we need to get out there in 2014 and vote for candidates who are willing to stand up to big business and do what is right for the American people. However, since the 2014 election is still over a year away, for right now we need to put our money where our mouth is — and stop giving it to the corporations we despise.

Ilyssa Fuchs

Ilyssa Fuchs is an attorney, freelance writer, and activist from New York City, who holds both a juris doctor and a political science degree. She is the founder of the popular Facebook page Politically Preposterous and a blog of the same name. Follow Ilyssa on Twitter @IlyssaFuchs, and be sure to check out her archives on Forward Progressives as well!

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  • The Progressive Viking

    Great piece, Ilyssa! Let your wallet do the talking.

  • sas

    I have been proudly boycotting WalMart for over 10 years, I’ve NEVER had Papa John’s pizza, I haven’t eaten at McDonald’s in more years than I can even remember because I literally get sick if I do, and I don’t shop at Whole Foods. I’ll go one further…I’ve been doing my best to boycott anything “Koch brothers” for obvious reasons, I will no longer eat at Chick Fil A, even though they used to be my favorites, due to Dan Cathy’s anti-gay stance, and I’m doing my best to boycott anything Nestle, since their CEO seems to think that clean drinking water isn’t a right to be afforded to ALL!!! Sometimes it’s difficult, but I’m doing my best to put my money where my conscience is!!

    • Eva King

      Ate papa johns at my daughters a couple weeks ago. She had a “good” coupon, and 2 large plus a small cheese sticks was $30. The food was awful! Next time she invites me for dinner, I think I’ll BRING dinner.

      • LittleBlue PillBand

        Ate Papa Johns and used their special and got a Large Pizza with a lot of toppings it was less than $15 and was awesome. Have your Daughter invite me Eva, i enjoy the Pizza.

      • Ya can get a mom and pop pizza for under 15 and I know papa johns crap would never compare.

  • Pipercat

    Oy vey, next time take the regular bagel, cut it in half, and nosh on it later…

    But seriously, the next logical step is to focus on one of those tyrants. John Schnatter comes to mind. If a focused boycott, of one of these entities, is big enough, a message will be sent. Also, support the folks striking the fast food monstrosities. Somewhere along the line, capitalists forgot capital meant investment in all parts of the business; not just feeding the speculative beast known as the, “markets.”

  • raggedcompany

    It’s a noble gesture, but I don’t think enough people would ever commit for it to really make a difference. What’s the point?

    • Mike Riley

      You may be right ragged……but I know the difference. It could make a difference, but even if I can’t change them, I can change me, and NOT giving them my money makes me feel good.

      • Dan Enlow

        I’m the same I don’t shop at Walmart and several other places not because I think I’m going to close them down but because I am not willing to give them my business. It’s the same with FOX TV stations I haven’t watched one in years. Not because I expect them to go off the air but because I won’t support hate and bigotry.

      • Smartchic

        Yep. Of course, one of us not shopping at WalMart will close them. Nor 10 of us, nor 100… but, every person that gets added to the list, makes a difference. One at a time. And I know, that I don’t have to shop at WalMart… I haven’t for years, and it makes me proud to know that I CAN put my money where my mouth is.

      • Dan Enlow

        Exactly. I won’t make a difference by my self but as the numbers grow something will change. But even if it doesn’t I know that I haven’t contributed directly to their greed.

      • raggedcompany

        The other day an article on this site really had me thinking that I wanted to change and adopt these practices of only shopping at “good” places. Then I realized that it’s more of an inconvenience to me than anything, and there’s no point because it doesn’t matter where I shop. I don’t exactly have the luxury of being able to spend more on things just because I want to make a political statement. All power to all you who stand by your values, it’s just not for me.

  • raggedcompany

    It’s a noble gesture, but I don’t think enough people would ever commit for it to really make a difference. What’s the point?

  • Stephen Equality McLeod

    It’s easy to boycott Walmart if you live in Manhattan. There aren’t any! But if you live, like a close friend of mine, in a place like Jennings, LA, are 60 y.o. and on a fixed disability income, you can’t be so choosy. His only options are Walmart, and a much more expensive supermarket. So for him, political enlightenment gets trumped by the need to survive. Alas.

    • sam

      when you are the working poor, you shop and eat where you can. wish i could afford the luxuries of shopping and eating wherever i want.

  • Tweetynole

    Let’s face it. In this economy, people are looking for the biggest bang for their buck. Many of these places are discount-based, so more people shop there. However, if everyone STOPPED shopping there, they would lose tons of money and then would be forced to take a look at their practices. I agree whole-heartedly. I don’t get Papa John’s because of their moron for a CEO. I don’t shop and Walmart and I stay away from McDonald’s because the food makes me break out with eczema. Whole Foods I was not aware of. We dont’ have any of the other stores you mentioned in Florida (come on Trader Joe’s!) so it’s hard, but I tend to go to locally owned health food stores…even if I have to pay more.

  • bangkokmichael

    Having lived & worked in Bangladesh for two years and witnessing the value of women having garment factory work, I worry that a garment boycott of Walmart and Gap would hurt the women we most wish to support.

  • agr8wrld

    When you live in a small town and Wal-Mart comes charging in you lose so many good small businesses because the behemoth ends up shutting them down. That’s one of the main reasons I despise Wal-Mart because I know this has happened all over the country and my heart breaks for all those small business owners. I know, I was one but not anymore.

    • Shari D

      That’s exactly what happened in our small town in Indiana a couple of decades ago. When we moved here in 1990, small, locally owned business was the order of the day, and Walmart was just barely walking in to a very small “used” store, and it wasn’t very pleasant to shop there actually. We had a smaller K-Mart, and several grocery stores, both “big corporate” and smaller, and many small, locally owned businesses that served the local economy. Well, when Walmart grew suddenly into the mawing beast it has become, the small stores disappeared one by one, almost on a weekly basis, three of the smaller groceries closed up, leaving just two large corporate outlets (Kroger and Marsh) ,and “SUPER WalMart” took over. There are very few options here now, and in the meantime, we’ve also acquired an enormous Home Depot, Starbucks and an example of just about every corporately owned fast food joint in existence. It’s very difficult to keep all supplies in stock here at home without going to Walmart. The only other option is to travel 25 miles ONE way, in any direction – North, South (only another Walmart that way), East or West, and the first things you encounter are.Walmarts! To find the other options takes so much more gas – which isn’t exactly cheap on a limited income, it’s not financially feasible every time we need something to travel 50 miles or more AND pay more for it too when you get elsewhere. Being held hostage to the Walmart Beast isn’t so nice from either direction.

      • Brian Plummer

        Walmart may be destroying some of the small businesses, but it aint all that bad. Walmart provides thousands of jobs to ppl and gives back to the community. Walmarts low prices enable the poor to survive. Walmart is also an equal opportunity employer. It doesnt allow discrimination based on sexual orientation, race, etc. So Walmart isnt all that bad.

      • MES

        It provides jobs that pay so poorly their employees are still on public assistance. Sorry, if it “ain’t” all bad, it is mostly bad.

  • Charlotte Eden Orth

    I have boycotted Walmart with all except their pharmacy and was forced by retirement to get my meds there. Now I have Medicare and do not have to go there for the pharmacy and I am so glad.
    I will not use Starbucks though because they have a bring your guns to Starbucks day in several cities. Not that I went there much anyway.

    • __

      Starbucks was not affiliated with those events and several stores voluntarily closed early to avoid them.

  • Joe from Arizona

    Amen…

  • Fred

    Just an FYI, Wholefoods does provide healthcare for its employees, even the parttime ones…costs 5 bucks a week (after you work 400 hours) After you have been there a long time (10,000 hours or in mgmt) its 100% free for your family.

    • David Bell

      That;s about 5 years on part time work, not too bad especially if it increments to that point.

    • Steve Wascher

      Wow 5 bucks a week is not too shabby. Does anyone have a breakdown on the benefits that buys you? Its not shabby unless you have a 5k deductible to meet, then at part time hours it would be laughable. I can’t say without more meat added to the topic.

  • Wayne Bassett

    Just like to point out that Starbucks may treat their employees fairly, but they do pay ZERO corporation tax through the use of tax loopholes. In other words, they may not get their employees to use the benefit system, like Wal-Mart, and burden the tax payer that way, but they burden the tax payer another way

  • Matthew Reece

    The real problem with Wal-Mart is that they refuse to let their employees unionize. Forbidding unionization violates the logical right of freedom of association.

  • Sacramento Mike

    Like others here, I hate Walmart. Living on a limited income, I sometimes shop there, but only for certain items that are outrageous elsewhere. Before I learned about Walmart policies, it was my go-to store for everything.

    I now buy food at a regional chain with union employees; a can of soup is 10 cents more, but frozen veggies are the same and fresh produce is less. This store honors any store’s ads, and I use it! They are happy to honor their price guarantee, and I love giving them my business. I continue to find opportunities to avoid big W.

    Walmart has not been meeting their earnings expectations. Hope I helped. If you are like me, perhaps you have to go Walmart sometimes. Express your opinion by cutting the dollars you spend there…I have cut 75%. Using Costco helps.

    Even on a limited income, I don’t need Papa John’s or Chick Fil-A’s awful politics and wouldn’t be caught dead there. Nestle thinks water is a luxury that they should control–their products are not for me! Gotta have PG&E’s Tide though…maybe because Nestle is pumping all of the good water out of the wells feeding my area! I live in a drought area in California…somehow Nestle wrangled a deal to build a plant here.

  • meme

    boycott Walmart because their hog farm suppliers are horrendously cruel to animals, because most of thier stuff is made in China who is decimating shark, rhino and elephant populations for their traditional medicines and to show their new found middle-class wealth (via everything made in China) through ivory chopsticks, carvings jewellry etc. Not one elephant will be left in 10 years. Not one.
    And stop eating crap, America! Papa johns? McDonalds? Eat a freaking apple, avocado, banana, nuts, spinach, kidney bean, the list of healthy food is endless – get healthy!

    • Idon’tCareBear

      sadly, it’s not, with our shit being steadily replaced by gmos and other unhealthy shit there isnt anything you can eat that’s good for you anymore.

  • What gets me is how many people blame corporate America for what’s wrong with our economy and how people live. First of all the guy that owns Papa John’s started out delivering pizzas himself, and made his business from scratch. People that have made their money legally and are paying their employees minimum wage is still within their legal rights. No one is forced to work at places like Walmart or Papa Johns or any other business. I don’t blame John Schnatter for making employees part time or for passing on the cost of health care to it’s customers, I said this was going to happen before the election when all this stuff about Obamacare was coming out. As for Chick fil a, hey they have a right just like anyone else to stick to their beliefs, people who say, well I have these rights but others shouldn’t, what then does that make you? I’m not saying that corporate America is fair by any means, but it seems that a bunch of liberals out there in America automatically believe that money should be taken from people that have made it to give it to people who have either not worked for it, or have put themselves into a position where they have to bend down and kiss these corp’s butts. All these people who say, oh I going to boycott this place or that place are naive thinking their little bit of business is going to break the corp’s bank, it ain’t. It’s like one place told me one time, shop where you want, there’s 2 ready to take your place…people shop where it’s cheaper. And as for those that are working at these places, I’m pretty sure a lot of them are happy just to have a job. It’s like when people talk about sweat shops overseas, sure it’s sad but when you are hungry and you make enough to buy a piece of bread, then you are happy to put something in an empty stomach. When we were young we’d work in the bean field picking beans to make money for our school clothes and buy a few groceries, 50 cents a bushel, and you know what we were happy to get that 50 cents. If people didn’t insist on making 20 dollars an hour then products wouldn’t cost so much, and we’d not have to depend on places like Walmart with their made in China stuff. As for Obamacare, we have not seen the worse of it yet…when all those people who wanted it actually figure out that they are not going to have the coverage they had before, and will be paying more for it, oh well, we’ll get to hear some more complaining.

    • Ellistrey

      I see you have never suffered. One day you will see.

    • Mike

      If customers boycotting a business doesn’t work, then why should businesses be concerned about their customers at all? You logic is faulty. Businesses are built on customers and it takes more than cheap goods to keep customers. Loose customers and you loose your business. In addition, everyone has rights including the customers and employees. The employees rights to make a descent living trump the owners rights to have a decadent lifestyle. They might have gotten super rich legally, but ethically they are bankrupt.
      So Mr Pizza Moneybags worked hard 30 years ago when he first started his business….big whoop. He forgot a long time ago what it meant to be poor and what hard manual is. Being a successful business owner is one thing, being a super greedy asshole is another.
      The owners of Chic fil A have every right to there religious beliefs and so do I. I am not going to give them my money to promote their limited interpretation of their religion though. If you don’t like homosexuality, then don’t have sex with the same gender. If you want to try to tell everyone else who they can sleep with, go live in Russia.

  • Lorraine

    while I whole totally agree with most of what you have said, I have to mention that both Starbucks and Google have exploited tax loopholes in the UK, and paid virtually no business tax here for years, despite making massive profits.

    • Ilyssa

      Oh I know, but I am more worried about how they treat their workers. I spoke to a Starbucks employee the other day who gave me the low down on salary, benefits, stock options, etc. for employees and I almost wanted to quit my lawyer job and become a barrista. So I guess my point is, they have exploited the loopholes but the used some of the money towards their employees rather than putting it all in their Cayman Islands accounts.

  • Shaun

    As an ex-employee at wally world I can say they didn’t treat their employees that great but it could be worse.
    I got paid 8.65/hr and had 35hrs per week-was an overnight stocker frozen dept. I was also given 2, 15 min breaks that I could take when I pleased and an hour lunch which I could also take whenever. Also I could get raises and if i needed help they sent a militia over to help me finish. Also after a year I could get vacation. If someone didn’t show up I just did my job and left at 7am, not their job as well. Compare this to pizza hut.

    At pizza hut I make 7.35/hr and get about 24hrs per week. I get no breaks, there are no raises, i’m the only one who hasn’t done a no call no show, i’m always on time and have been employee of the month 2 times-the only one to do this at our store. Do I get a raise, hell to the no and I’ve been there over a year. No vacation unless you work 30 hours average and no one gets those hours. They don’t even provide a paper cup to get some water, walmart provided us with plates, cups, silverware, etc. Microwaves and a coffee machine. Not at pizza hell. If my coworker doesn’t show I do their job and mine and don’t leave until its done. If I need help I don’t get it because there is no help to be given because corporate has cut our labor so much. They even force a shift lead to work on christmas day. Another thing at walmart we had our schedules weeks in advance. At pizza hell say you get your schedule and have 3 days off on the 2nd day your off they’ll write you in to work the 3rd day, and won’t notify you then write you up for no call no show. If i couldn’t work thursdays at walmart I couldn’t work thursdays and pizza hut they’ll write you in anyway.

  • redastcyr

    I am shame now when I go to WallMart I’m really going to stop now It’s just to much what their doing an I don’t like McDonalds!

  • rmc

    You people who want to boycott Walmart and are already shopping somewhere else.
    Think about this, You can shop somewhere else, but most Walmart employees work there because they can’t get a job anywhere else! and they shop at Walmart, because,
    1. They go there to work so they are already there and it is so easy just to shop before going home instead of driving somewhere else to shop.
    2. Walmart is the only place they can afford to shop.
    3. If you boycott them and enough people quit shopping there enough to make them close, then these Walmart employees will not have a job or anywhere to shop,
    Also people on fixed incomes shop at Walmart because it is the only place they can afford to shop.
    If you can afford NOT to shop at Walmart then you are lucky and NOT poor. Poor folks need Walmart!

    • Bruce Veasey

      If walmart were to close, there would be dozens of new smaller companies to pick up the slack.

      There are always other options. To claim that walmart is the only place to find god deals, merely shows how lazy you are, not how poor.

    • MrLightRail

      The dollar stores, ie: Dollar General, Family Dollar, and Dollar Tree are giving Wal-Mart a run for their money. Better to trade there than Wal-Mart for those of us who don’t have much choice.

    • jp

      Have you lost your ever lost brain!No one gives a crap about Walmart Because they treat their customers like crud also their employees. Every town they open a new store in they come in open their store and give things out at a low price. run the other loyal mom and pop stores out of buisness because they cant take a loss like Walmart can.Then once they shut down ,then Walmart jacks their price way up above what the mom and pop store was charging.Then they have no competition,you have no choices fof your goods or your food. Then your kids and family all have to work their because its all thats left! I never met anyone defend Walmart because they are so big they dont need it. So how long have you been working for Walmart? Or something is going on with you.I would never back up people that make a fortune on some one elses back while they are pocketing Billions! You must work for them or something, These corporations are stealing us blind and treating its people like slaves and you comend them like they would realy be missed not in my lifetime. The also know nothing about customer service at Walmart.Try to find someone to tell you about a product there.If you dont mind that you have no choices and that its the only place your family can find work. By all means live at Walmart.I on the other hand will stay away from people that treat humans as less than human!

    • Kathi Zelenik

      So despite WalMart being bad for America, you feel they should be supported? They profit from the low wages they pay….. and those savings you think you got? They were gobbled up by the higher taxes you pay to subsidize their employees.

  • Sgt. Jerkface, Grammar Police

    Editor’s note: “…go around the regulations, then [sic] to just comply…” should read “…go around the regulations than to just comply…” Than, not then. As written says that after they go around the regulations, they comply with them. Your intention is clearly rather this than that.

    • Sgt. Jerkface, Grammar Police

      Otherwise, nice piece. Been doing the same for a long time in Portland, OR.

      • Ilyssa

        You are absolutely correct. Even proofreading something 20+ times I always miss one then/than. Thanks for pointing it out. I like you SN as well! 🙂

  • Keith Wanless

    The author misses an important part of the boycott process, namely telling the company you’re boycotting precisely WHY you’re boycotting. If they don’t know you’re boycotting because of a certain corporate policy, they’re not going to change a thing. If you, and hundreds or thousands or tens of thousands like you, tell Wal-Mart that you will no longer spend money there because of their abuse of employees, or tell Whole Foods that you will no longer shop there due to their stance on Obamacare, they learn what corporate policy they need to change to get you in their store and increase their sales figures. If you simply stop shopping at a place and don’t tell them why, they cannot use your reason for boycott as a reason to change their ways.

    If you’re boing to boycott, tell the company why, loudly and often. Tell your friends to do the same. Polite, quiet people rarely change the world.

    • Keith Wanless

      “going” to boycott. Forgive the typo please

  • shopper

    I avoid WalMart as much as possible……because of their policies towards employees and because of the stench in our local store. Fortunately we have 2 other grocery stores nearer to us and a lovely dept. store next to WalMart with good prices. We live on a fixed income and make up the difference in cost by using less processed foods and cooking more from scratch. That’s healthier anyway.
    I’ve also seen what a super (?) WalMart does to a small town……closing local stores and then letting their store get really junky and dirty and understaffed. It can ruin the local economy by increasing unemployment, causing people to lose their homes thereby lowering real estate values, and that in turn lowers the tax base. Any money saved is lost in other ways.
    The dollar stores are starting to cut into WalMart profits but I don’t know anything about their corporate practices. Does anyone?

  • Gary Usleaman

    I don’t see how Whole Foods CEO’s comment lead to the conclusion that he under-appreciates his employees.

  • Brian Plummer

    I work at Sams Club & I get 40 hrs a week. I’m full time so Walmart pitches in on my insurance. The bad thing about full time is that I cant have set off days like part time employees. Granted, I have been getting the same days off but if an employee quits, asks for a day off, takes vacation or whatever, my schedule could change. I wanted to get a 2nd job to bring in some extra money but Im worried my schedule might change. Part timers @ least can get set days off. That is their plus. Also, part-timers can get medical insurance. I forget what the stipulation was though. Walmart wants to have 60% part time employees & 40% full time employees.

  • Francesca Alberts

    Another anti-Walmart article. How original. I have worked for Walmart for 12 years. I know for a fact that they pay better than any of the other retailers in the area – corporate or not. Do I agree with all of their business practices? No. I know they could do more for their employees regarding more affordable health insurance and maybe a more attainable, substantial bonus check every now and then. But the fact remains they aren’t the worst you could do. There is growth potential in the company and you could make a decent, actually pretty good living if you move up the ladder. Not everyone has a college degree and can get any high paying job they want. This is a company you can grow yourself in as I did. Most employees are happy in my store and I think you’d find that to be true in most stores.
    I get the media scrutiny. I do. But the company isn’t as bad as they are made out to be.

  • John Cross

    So you wait 10 minutes in line to get a “mini bagel”, whatever that is, and then storm out b/c it isn’t as cheap as you thought it would be? Sounds pretty petty to me.

  • jag0581

    I used to work at Starbucks and I will tell you it truly is a great place to work. They give benefits to anyone working an average of 20 hours per week, you get one personal day a quarter and accrue vacation time almost immediately. The pay at Starbucks is better than most places but still not that great especially if you are working part time, but you do get benefits and can buy into the corporate stock which is nice. They call all their employees Partners because they believe all employees have a stake in the company and are hence forth a partner in the company. Other places I have worked have been good and bad. Target is just like Walmart in many ways. Their pay is crappy and they schedule you when ever they want to even if you tell them you are not available. I worked at Target two stints, the first time I loved it, they actually treated their employees well, their pay at the time was at least three dollars above minimum wage but as time went on they went downhill. The second time I worked there I worked for barely minimum wage and the managers would schedule you to work no matter what and when you tell them you are not available they give you crap and start talking about firing you for not going by their schedule, that is until they realize you actually put your availability differently than they schedule you. I hated my second stint and frankly I try not to shop at Target because of how bad they are. Unfortunately most retail establishments pay barely minimum wage and their hours are always part time just so they don’t have to give you benefits. That is the way it is at 90% of places now a days and it will continue like that until laws change. What these corporations don’t realize is if they paid their CEO’s and other high executives just 25% less (which would still be millions in pay for most of them.) they could pay for benefits for all their employees at the store level and most likely give them raises as well.

  • Jim T

    I follow that same line of shopping. I never go to Walmart, McDonalds or Target…or Chick fil…There are plenty of other stores that I can shop at that are supportive of their staff and don’t discriminate.