Exposing the Horrifying Truth About Liberals

liberals1I give in, conservatives have beaten me. They’ve finally convinced me the horrors that might come from a nation ruled by liberal ideology. And let me tell you, it would be a nightmare.

Could you imagine if the United States was a country where we had universal health care and millions of people weren’t saddled with thousands of dollars in medical bills they can’t afford? It would be awful.

Even worse, imagine if all of our electricity came from sun or wind energy? You know how terrible it would be to no longer have to pay for expensive electricity? I don’t know about all of you, but I love paying high electric bills.

And I don’t know about you, but who needs vehicles with high MPG’s? Personally, I love paying for gasoline as frequently as possible.

Speaking of that horrible “green liberal initiative,” who needs clean water? I’d much rather continue to pay exorbitant prices to companies to pour filtered water into plastic bottles than have it flow straight into my home for safe consumption.

And safe food, who needs that either? I ask you, did our Founding Fathers eat clean, FDA-approved foods? Exactly!

Then when it comes to religion, we definitely need it in our schools. Math, science, history – all liberal garbage, get rid of them. There’s nothing in this world that can’t be solved by simply looking to the Bible. It offers great parenting tips and relationship advice. It even has a nifty plan on how to deter adultery. Spoiler alert: It involves stones.

Liberals want to create a world where religion is kept private or in church. What kind of horrific country would this be if we couldn’t force our religious views on people who don’t follow them?

As far as gun regulations go, please. We all know some of the safest, and least violent, times in United States history were the good ol’ days of the old west where everyone openly carried a gun with them at all times. Back then people solved disputes in a civilized, rational manner. Besides, I’m not sure how liberals don’t seem to understand that we need more guns to counter the guns we’ve already easily allowed to get into the hands of criminals. Because the only way to stop a bad guy with a gun, is a good guy with a gun… to shoot the bad guy after they’ve already claimed a victim or two. If these sissy liberals got their way we’d have a society where guns were highly regulated, making it much more difficult for criminals to get guns.

Don’t you see the scam? If criminals don’t have guns, and people don’t need them for self defense, then we won’t need more guns! Hello. Don’t you see how dastardly their plan is to get rid of our Second Amendment?

And taxes, who needs taxes? I’m absolutely sure if it were left up to private, for-profit corporations that basic services in this country such as emergency care, roads, education and other public services would be provided at very affordable prices. You know, just like how our for-profit health care system has provided extremely affordable care for decades.

After all, corporations are the backbone on which ethics and morals are built. If we just put our faith in them, Wall Street and corporate America, everything would be fine. It’s those darn liberal regulations like safe working conditions, the minimum wage and overtime pay that prevent these companies from trickling down their excess profits to American workers. Instead, these liberal regulations force these companies to give it to the high-level executives.

In the liberal world, they’d probably do something outrageous like raise the minimum wage so that corporate executives are burdened with having to take slightly smaller bonuses.

And women’s rights? Those are real simple – just go ask a man, duh. Nearly half this country is made up of men. All women have to do is go up to one of them and ask them what rights they can have. Seems simple, right? Why do liberals have to complicate things by trying to give women equal rights, allow them to have control over their own bodies and fight for equal pay in the workplace? It’s absurd. If liberals got their way, women would have all the rights men have. And we all know that’s just silly.

As for gay rights, that’s just a ridiculous thought altogether. Honestly, could you imagine a country where people are treated equally no matter their sexual orientation? Because that’s what liberals want. It’s a terrifying thought, isn’t it?

Heck, in the liberal world, war would be used as an option of last resort. Can you imagine that? Anyone with a brain knows you start a war first, then ask questions later. As the old conservative saying goes, the only good Middle Eastern country is one we’ve invaded, occupied and have no exit strategy for.

Can’t you see how horrible life would be if liberals got their way in this country? A nation with cleaner water, affordable health care, better pay, greener methods of energy, a cleaner environment, safer food, less war, equal rights – what an absolute nightmare.


Allen Clifton

Allen Clifton is a native Texan who now lives in the Austin area. He has a degree in Political Science from Sam Houston State University. Allen is a co-founder of Forward Progressives and creator of the popular Right Off A Cliff column and Facebook page. Be sure to follow Allen on Twitter and Facebook, and subscribe to his channel on YouTube as well.

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  • chaserblue

    You forgot higher education for those that want one. Keep education out of the hands of the poor, after all, we all know they’re not really going to amount to anything or do anything with a college degree. They can go work at McDonald’s or Taco Bell. Keep education in the hands of those responsible and rich enough to afford it.

    • Billy Bien

      Fuck education

      • Stephen Barlow

        Thanks for qualifying your status.

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      • Stephen Barlow

        Clever!

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      • Chiennoir

        Back in the day we called it “human growth and development.” But Billy’s title would encourage more students to take the class.

      • Stephen Barlow

        hehehe Shouldn’t you be in the Palin is tRailer Trash thread?

    • strayaway

      That’s insulting to people who work at McDonalds. McDonalds provides a lot of jobs for students. It’s even insulting to others who work there. Some students still learn to work at places like McDonalds to at least partly pay their way.

      • surfjac

        Almost 40 percent of fast food workers are 25 or older.

        More than 30 percent have at least some college experience. More than a quarter are parents. The fast food workforce does, in fact, skew young. Thirty percent are
        teens, and another 30.7 percent are 20-24, meaning they’re at least in college range. That said, nearly 40 percent qualify by pretty much anybody’s definition of an adult. (The Bureau of Labor Statistics, for its part, reports that median age of “combined food preparation and serving workers,” a
        category that includes your average McDonald’s hand, is about 29). Meanwhile, the vast majority have at least a high school degree, and a surprising 31 percent have at least some college. Presumably, some of those people are students working their way through school, but exactly
        how many who knows. The broader point is that these jobs aren’t primarily a refuge for high school dropouts.

        And finally, a full 26.6 percent are in fact raising children. Among workers over 20, it’s more than 36 percent. Now, many of those parents could be married, and some are almost certainly working part-time so they can spend time with their children. But, the point remains that a
        sizable number of these workers are relying on their McWages to support a family.

        And those wages are, by and large, quite paltry. Even
        among workers over the age of 20, about 79 percent earn less than $10.10 an hour.
        h/t Jordan Weissmann

      • strayaway

        Thank you for the interesting statistics. It’s surprising to learn that even 30% are students. I’m not against higher minimum wages imposed at the state level. However, higher minimum wages will result in more self service, automation, and fewer jobs in such venues. That’s a societal choice.

        My concern was for our youth who used to have more job opportunities to help work their way through college and gain job experience. What I notice is that more and more McDonald’s seem to have foreign language crews instead of students. The same with landscape crews. Jobs are drying up for students but the border remains open and employers do not get punished for cheating. The laws, even if enforced, do not seem to take into account what happens when millions of additional unskilled worker and more recently skilled legal immigrants are dumped into the job market. Politicians are in denial, indifferent, or worse in recognizing the effects of supply and demand on labor.

      • gaypunk

        Strange, I am from the US but I currently live in Europe where minimum wages are much higher and yet there is less automation and self service here than there already is in the US. You almost never see self service drink fountains in fast food restaurants in the Netherlands where I live. You almost never see self checkout lines in stores here. You do, however, see lots of profitable companies paying their employees much better and still selling their products at nearly the same prices (after converting for the different values of the Euro and US Dollar), sometimes things are more expensive here but often times they are less expensive, as in the US. The difference? The executives working for these companies make salaries that are somewhat less astronomical than they would working for a similar company in America.

      • strayaway

        good points. Holland also has moved ahead of the US in self service food dispensing. The E.U. also has a 10% unemployment rate. I am ok with higher state imposed minimum wages anyway. It would be great if tax structures in the US would punish corporations that gave so much to CEO’ particularly when those companies paid low wages and shipped jobs off to Asia. There doesn’t seem to be much political will to do so. Campaign coffers might dry up.

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      • Stephen Barlow

        Is that 10% who CAN’t Find work? Or 10% of possible workers NOT working by choice or /and circumstance?

        YOU are very right about money in politics.

      • Jim

        If a company wishes to pay an executive a crazy rate that is on them. If you don’t like it, do not invest in that company. If you do invest, rally your fellow shareholders and make the pitch for lower pay. The government has no place in this.

      • strayaway

        Isn’t a bit like motorcycle helmet laws? People should be free to ride without helmets. The problem is that governments have to foot the bill for so many bikers with addled brains. If companies are free to lay off their US workers and ship jobs abroad or hire cheaper foreign workers while corporate officers make millions, government unemployment and welfare programs pay for it. Taxpayers who pay for brain surgery and welfare are stakeholders who deserves some say. Otherwise we have taxation without representation.

      • Jim

        Separate issues, I agree if a company ships positions overseas the state is a stakeholder. Executive pay is another matter, unless the entity is being supported by taxpayers they have no stake.

      • strayaway

        How corporations are allowed to be structured or exist has always been determined by the state. The details, taxation rates, for instance, are determined by the state. Every state and our federal government already has graduated income taxes for individuals with all sorts of deductions. I don’t see where structuring corporate income tax rates in part based on incomes is any different than other corporate deductions determined by government. You would better make the argument that progressive income taxes should be illegal under the equal protection clause.

      • rejectrepublicanlies

        We are supporting companies, Guest. They reap all of the benefits and pay no taxes for privilege.

      • captsmitty

        If a corp will not pay a living wage then their employees qualify for gov/public assist. This is why the gov has a stake in executive bonus’. If my tax dollars are going to support your employees all while you and your exec’s are making tens millions each yr in bonus’ there is the problem. When I was 18 (many yrs ago) I worked one minimum wage full time job. I paid rent, bought a car, paid insurance, bought my own food. I was self suffecient working for minimum wage. I had friends that put themselves through school working a min. wage job. Today working for min. wage i would have to work at least 100 hrs per wk. to live as i did back then and forget about going to college while supporting yourself on min. wage. This is why the gov needs to reighn in exec. pay/bonus. In the 50s profits for the rich were taxed at 93% this included exec’s pay. The business’ put their profits back into the business creating more jobs. they also put the profits into employee wages and benefits. The only people getting help from anyone were those that could not take care of themselves not people working full time. I remember when I was a kid the only time my mom worked was between thanksgiving and christmas for christmas presents when my dad was first starting his own business. Are you starting to see where the gov might just have something to do with all this. Taxes on profits and investments went down and so did wages while the cost of living went up. TELL ME I’M WRONG.

      • George Kimball

        You’re wrong. You might look at the tens of millions of illegal low or no skill workers flooding the labor market to get a clue why those jobs pay so poorly.
        High taxes on investments mean less investment, smartie. Less investment, less job growth. Ain’t rokkit syens.

      • white trash religious scum

        I guess that will explain why IKE’s administration did so poorly with creating jobs? MUST have been his taxing the wealthy so much as he created the interstate system. Uber wealthy dont create jobs

      • rejectrepublicanlies

        Incredible oversimplification of a complex issue.

      • Gail M Feldman

        most ordinary people are not shareholders. they have no control over what ceos make. what ceos make would not concern most ordinary people were it not for the fact that the same ceos deny those ordinary people a living wage. the government has EVERY place in this.

      • George Kimball

        CEOs, overpaid (like Hillary) or not, don’t set wages – the market does.

      • Grand1

        Europe has been in recession for a while now.
        Russia will follow shortly.

      • Art Carmen

        The USA is out of the Great Republican Recession that started under Republican George W. Bush, ended in 2012 thanks to Barrack Obama(D), helped on by the Stimulus that NO Republican voted for.

      • rejectrepublicanlies

        Russia is not comparable to Europe at all. Russia derives most of its wealth from oil. Putin and his cronies loot the country and provide no level of decent health care, safety, wages, etc. Europe, by the way, is a big place. Greece may be poor, but Norway is not. Overall, most Europeans live far better lives than the majority of folks in the US.

      • Stephen Barlow

        Like NOT 53,000% more than the employees?

      • John Michael Hutton

        The people that own those corporations are not the same greedy dirty rat bastards that own American corporations. And they don’t have a party of elected officials in Europe that represent the greediest of the greedy like we do here in the States. Your facts just get in the way of the delusions of ReThguliTARDS.

      • George Kimball

        Europe is a statist system that works for the insiders, who are insulated and secure. Those outside have a hard time getting in.

      • Stephen Barlow

        Whose gonna pay for that automation? Job creators who get tax credits to automate?

        the border is OPEN because George Bush’s answer was the Same as Stalin’s in Berlin. Build a Trillion dollar wall and all your problems are solved.

        If he’d have invested My taxdollars in waterway improvements like repairing levees long neglected from Republican Austerity and TAX CUTTING… Katrina might have been just a really bad storm.

      • Guest

        What you say isn’t even close to being accurate

      • strayaway

        What specifically are you talking about or are you just pontificating?

      • Robert Scalzi

        I have no idea how this reply ended up where it did. It was definitely not meant for you but a reply to you that seems to be gone now… weird. You were not my target. Sorry – still not sure why it ended up being a reply to you, but…. stranger things have happened.

      • strayaway

        Computers do interesting things all by themselves. I have an additional problem of being just a bit ADD so I have to be careful about leaving words out and typos that can lead to egg on the face.

      • John Michael Hutton

        And you haven’t noticed the drying up of jobs for adults? You should start paying more attention NAFTA AND CAFTA created that great sucking sound you hear which are American jobs heading overseas. And by all means, lets lower our pay here in the states so we can catch down to the lower wages paid throughout the world. That really makes sense , doesn’t it? Lets go backwards like Rethuglicans want us to do. Of course, what isn’t being said is by doing this, you see costs of products NEVER go down, the difference is pocketed by the wealthy and they feed you this bullshit and you are so afraid that you swallow their bullshit lock, stock and barrel and continue to elect conservative ReThuglicans who are owned by these wealthy people. I guess an education was wasted on you dummies.

      • strayaway

        You mean the NAFTA agreement signed into law by Bill Clinton. I agree with everything you wrote except that you blame it all on Republicans. Obama is now leading the charge to implement the TPP which, by many accounts, will be more devastating to US workers than NAFTA. When combined with higher legal and illegal immigration, these treaties make higher wages for US workers almost impossible. Incidentally, the 1% has garnered a larger share of the US national wealth at at an accelerated rate under Obama relative to under Bush. Obama has been even better for the the 1% than even Bush.

      • Gail M Feldman

        nafta was signed by clinton… after it was negotiated by bush.

      • John Michael Hutton

        It seems to me that a great number of the workers in fast food are MEXICANS who run when you ask them for their green card.

      • surfjac

        And your point is? Maybe they should arrest the person that hired them? Oh wait, they are probably American citizens of Mexican descent? Or the employer should be jailed.
        Don’t get me started on that. You can’t and won’t pay for removing All of them and you won’t do anything to get the undocumented immigrant on the tax roles all the while we are deporting more people than ever but trying to deport 11,000,000 would break the bank. Want to do something about this? Arrest those who hire undocumented immigrants.

      • George Kimball

        Why did they have kids they couldn’t afford?

      • surfjac

        What are you?…the morality police? Did you vote for politicians who think think sex education is a good thing or someone who thinks an aspirin between the knees is a good way to prevent babies? Planned Parenthood? Y or N? Minimum wage? How about a little closer to where it should be not where it is?

      • George Kimball

        The obvious moral issue is why anyone believes they can have children others have to pay for. How hard is that to grasp?

      • surfjac

        Why are they having those children? Can you tell me that?
        Why don’t you go, get them to deny their biological urges and educate all those people to the economic hardships of having a child?…or STFU, either works for me.
        I don’t see support to small children as much of a burden when compared to cutting education funding , Planned Parenthood or denying women birth control on morality grounds. I mean, you sound like you couldn’t care whether a child starves to death or not; rather inhuman if you ask me, all things considered.

      • George Kimball

        You are missing my point, which isn’t about the details of raising children.
        People should understand that being responsible is not optional. It means not having children they can’t afford or can’t raise. Forcing others to pay your bills is wrong, as is leaving your child to struggle with an impoverished childhood bc you didn’t care for him/her.
        I read a news story about a guy who had 22 children through 15 women across 5 states (yes, I know you just surmised his race). He did not have a job and obviously wasn’t doing much parenting either. Or Octomom – 14 kids, no job, living in her mother’s house as it was headed for foreclosure. The Octo-birth cost the state of CA $1.5 Million and that is only the start. Why the f— should these utterly irresponsible people be able to force taxpayers to pay for them?

      • surfjac

        Which is why you educate them and have support groups when the education fails and hormones take over otherwise you have a bunch of children nobody wants…what’s better? Spending a little up front to prevent unwanted pregnancies or telling men to keep it in their pants and women to put aspirin between their knees? Which makes more sense? I know it’s the latter to a republican’t.

      • surfjac

        So what would you do? Forced sterilization? Who pays for that? Who would agree to that? If we do nothing, who pays for that? Don’t you think there are consequences for not addressing the problems associated with this? There are consequences for everything. The issue is not always who pays but how much does it cost? What does this cost to society at large, not you, not me, but everyone? If we do nothing, what will it cost society in the long run?

        And regarding this: “I read a news story about a guy who had 22 children through 15 women across 5 states (yes, I know you just surmised his race).”
        No, I didn’t but it helped me identify you. Don’t ever darken my towels again.

      • George Kimball

        Identify? That behavior is a caricature, but only of one identifiable group. Pretending it’s untrue because of the ever-useful R word is nothing but denial of some of the worst and most dangerous social behavior – not taking responsibility for your children. I understand VERY clearly the consequences of ‘doing nothing’. Yes, education and birth control are indispensable, but attitudes that treat the former with indifference or as ‘acting white’ are social poison. Ask any teacher about students who do not have a caretaker who cares about education (or about them). Subsidizing illegitimate children w/o requiring a plan to get off welfare – will produce what? (Think – I know it hurts). Will recipients seize the chance to get out of the poverty trap or regard it as a paycheck? No one is an adult who does not take responsibility for their own lives. They do remain dependable sources of votes to be bought –

      • George Kimball

        which liberals have for decades, painting it over as compassion – a grotesque perversion and a disgrace (the head of the new Black Panthers came out and said as much last week). The issue isn’t help, it is exploitation. The US has spent the largest block of money in human history on ending poverty – so why is it still there? Because clueless liberals have created a poverty industry (huge source of middle class jobs and solid as rock D votes). It requires poor people in order to survive (first law of all bureaucracies: survive). Wake up.

      • George Kimball

        As to education, you might – might – reflect on the fact that the cities with the longest histories of Democratic control also have the worst schools (see poverty industry, above – and add NEA). Black Chicago (not the poker game) high school graduates – 80% can neither read nor do math at the 8th grade level, which is deemed proficiency. The industry has produced poverty for decades. Obviously needs more money (for more of the same).
        You have the typical liberal’s grasp of conservatives, which means close to none, and is why it takes a book to explain anything. You see ignorant Bible banger hillbillies bent on forcing everyone into fundamentalist churches and learnin’ them creationism and seeing human failings as the work of the devil. That is, when they’re not destroying the planet out of white man’s greed and racism. Right.

        Horsepuckey.
        The core of the right is liberty (like keeping what you earn, not feeding the poverty industry). The ethos of the right is that responsibility is the flip side of freedom. Infantilizing people and then rationalizing it as benificence produces… well look at what socialism did to Venezuela.
        Wake up. I took the time to lay a little out for you.

      • Stephen Barlow

        ANd that DAMN Liberal Agenda includes GRANTS!! That NEVER have to be paid BACK!!!!! FREE money so students can LEARN and study and play sports instead of flipping fries in a basket and mopping floors.

      • Chiennoir

        And don’t forget that a decent education tends to make people think for themselves. God forbid we have THAT liberal nightmare in this country! People ignoring Leviticus! People believing in evolution and the laws of physics! People questioning Fox News! Chaos!

      • Kim Serrahn

        You do know about sarcasm?

      • John Michael Hutton

        Oh paleze. many educated people work at Mikey D’s because they can’t find a decent job anywhere else because there aren’t any jobs. NOt everyone is capable mentally to achieve a college degree. Hell, there are lots of people that aren’t capable of getting a high school degree unless they are socially promoted from grade to grade to worthless piece of paper or you lower the standards so far that a moron could get a high school “education”. Oh wait, they already do that in the South.

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      • DavidD

        I enjoy your stream of consciousness mode of posting even if I don’t agree with parts of it

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    • Kim Serrahn

      Brilliant.

  • LMB

    Oh the horrors! Living wage, booming economy who needs it….

    • Cathryn Sykes

      Deep blue skies. Seas full of life. Rain that doesn’t corrode metal. Streams and rivers that run clean and full of fish. Huge forests and jungles taking in carbon dioxide and breathing out oxygen. God, what a frightening thought!

      • Guest

        Water is supposed to corrode metal; it’s called rust. I’d be more worried when water DOESN’T corrode metal be because it’s full of oils.

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      • Stephen Barlow

        THAT is a very perverted thought.

    • Michael Gestetner

      Booming economy?! Look what happened under the current government. It’s far from a booking economy.

      • captsmitty

        It’s a ell of alot better than it was when he got elected or have you forgotten. Do some research and find out when the last time a republican president left the country better when he left office compared to when he went into office then do the same for the democrats. Don’t take it from me. Do the research for yourself. Then get back to me as to who is better for American citizens.

  • openminded_montanan

    What if it is all a scam and we end up creating a better world for nothing!

    • Stephen Barlow

      The kids get to enjoy it. Make a Wish HAPPEN!

  • Sandy Greer

    Do I detect some tongue-in-cheek? Seriously, I would like to see more pro-Left
    articles. It’s not enough to be anti-Right – I don’t vote anti-Right. Go pro-Left. Get out front, and sell our issues.

    I would like to see articles that take a single issue, and probe it in-depth. One issue, after another. Each with their own column.
    Don’t tell me what’s wrong about the other guy. Tell me what’s right about our guy – our issue.

    We can sell a Positive. Go pro-Left, all the way.

    • LMB

      I tend to agree. There are a lot of articles with good points I would to share, but the tone can be off putting. Convincing is easier with positivity rather than bashing. (But poking fun is enjoyable on occasion ;)).

      • Stephen Barlow

        Who would you be convincing, rabid Fox viewers and Limbaughers?

      • Stephen Barlow

        BullSH*T!!!!! Poking fun is enjoyable ALL the time!!!!

    • nette

      Your comment is the exact reason why anti-right seems to work better. There are many articles about the things our President has done. Those articles have fewer comments. They tend to go unnoticed. The low unemployment rate was trending last week. It was barely recognized. I say get the message out which ever way it works.

    • Michael Gestetner

      The reason why there are so few pro-left articles that actually discuss and promote left causes are because most can’t be argued for in their own right. Liberalism needs negativity to sell itself. It needs that “I’m better than you because I supposedly care” attitude as well the “if you don’t agree with me you’re a terrible person” outlook.

      • Sandy Greer

        Interesting thing is Forward Progressives did not take my advice. Not one positive article was written here. It was all anti-Right, all the way. Endless Negativity. More’s the pity.

        But thanks for the reminder. I thought about what I’d said the other day, when we lost the election. Don’t know it would’ve made a difference – but I wish they’d given it the old college try.

      • Gail M Feldman

        well michael, that’s certainly not true on any level. oh wait, there is one… it’s true of trump’s ghang.

        g

      • regressive teaparty trash

        perhaps U might explain how many POSITIVES the GOP/ rightwing has given us in the past 25 yrs???

  • Ivan Renko

    It all sounds good on paper and in theory.

    • DavidD

      Actually most of the progresive policies we see being pushed now are just long struggles we always have had with the rich.
      Progresive Taxation ,Estate Taxes on the mega-wealth,Glass -Stegal act,Trust Busting,,

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      • DavidD

        I wonder why he bothers to posts sometime.I can’t figure out what he hopes to gain with talking points in search of an issue methodology he employs and this ends justify the means style that seems so popular.
        I go into these posts with the idea that I can be wrong about thingsThat is just part of being human along with learning from those mistakes..
        Does he have to get over on people so he can feel superior?
        He’s not very good at it but he is not the worse of the trolls on this site.

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  • DGReid

    Part, and only part, of the problem with liberals is that they can’t think below the headline level. “Everyone should have free, higher education.” Nobody bothers to define what that means, or how it would be done. Liberals think that if something sounds good, it must be possible, and can be paid for with somebody else’s money. If anyone opposes liberal ideas, they are in the pockets of evil capitalist. (redundant?) The only value in this article is comic.

    • Arthur C. Hurwitz

      It is done in other countries so there is no reason that it can’t be done here…. .

      • DGReid

        Once again, a headline, with no specifics or is “it” sufficient? Are we talking about sex?

      • Arthur C. Hurwitz

        Read the article.

      • Marilyn Olsen Scheffler

        Didn’t you read the article that we are all posting about??? That’s what IT is!

      • doctor_robot

        jesus f. christ…. did you even read the article?

    • Jess L Calloway

      Spoken by someone who drives on public roads, enjoys the protection of the military, likes clean water and air, etc. People pay taxes to live in this country. Move to Somalia if you don’t like it.

      • strayaway

        Somalia is a cliche. It is in the middle of a civil war with foreign forces and influences tearing it apart and each supporting different warlords. Maybe Somalia is a better example of what happens as a result of big government interventionism. Thanks, Bill Clinton!

      • ProgressiveGenX

        Confused by your comment. President H Bush first invaded Somalia when he was behind in the polls. Bill Clinton tried a few things, and then bugged out. People who don’t want to pay taxes to invade countries, or my original comment can move wherever.

      • strayaway

        Or instead of leaving, they can lobby and vote to reduce ridiculous expenses such as the war in Iraq, bombing Libya and Serbia, and whatever Clinton was trying to do in Somalia. That was meant as a sarcastic thank you to Clinton for Black Hawk down. At least Clinton had the sense to get out right away as Reagan did in Lebanon. I don’t think that inviting now over 80,000 Somali’s to live here was a plus either.

      • ProgressiveGenX

        I agree.

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    • Andy Kinnard

      Paid for by a small piece of the aggregate output of our society, not “other people’s money”.

    • Marilyn Olsen Scheffler

      I don’t remember anyone saying that ALL people should have free higher education. But those that aspire to it and can’t afford to even think about it do deserve some consideration. It’s too bad that so many people think the world revolves around themselves and their wealthy friends who have NO CLUE about what it is like to be poor and keep getting kicked in the rear at every turn.

      • DGReid

        Marilyn, I grew up poor. I went to school with holes in my shoes – no joking. The difference between me and many poor people is that I refused to think of myself as a victim. I put myself through college and grad school and went on to a rewarding career in engineering. Anyone who is determined to get through college can do the same without a government program. I am unsympathetic to those who think it shouldn’t be so hard.
        College isn’t for everybody, but if you make it free, everyone will go.

      • doctor_robot

        you’re a fucking idiot.

      • DGReid

        … and you are a typical liberal. No thoughts in your head, so just level insults. This is why you have no credibility. You show no ability to make a point.

      • doctor_robot

        and you’re a typical tea-bagger. listen, you fucking jack-ass… read the article before spouting off. and without them there rotten libtards, your inbred ass would be in a world of hurt. void of critical thinking, you guys don’t seem to want to pay attention to what works elsewhere. “college (higher education) isn’t for everybody” – what an apathetic, self-centered jackass. oh, and nice hat.

      • Angel Brava

        DGReid is correct. College isn’t for everybody. You, for instance, prove his point nicely. It seems to me that the only thing you learned in college was how to throw F-bombs around and be a useful idiot to the Communist Left. Abraham Lincoln, Henry Ford, Sean Connery, and Will Smith (just to name a few), never made it to college. What have you done to change the world?

      • doctor_robot

        that’s funny… out of the hundreds upon hundreds of millions that have lived since lincoln, you pick connery, a misogynist wife beater, ford, and antisemitic nazi award winner, will smith, a scientologist, and abe lincoln, a lefty!!! lol

        i’m working right now…. so i’ll beat you up later about how important to a society the fair chance to/for higher education is. dumb-asses.

      • Angel Brava

        What have you done to change the world is the real question? I can name a thousand human beings who have not graduated from college and have accomplished remarkable things that have changed the world. You, sonny, have accomplished zero and I suspect you are just a bitter loser because of it. Get a life.

      • doctor_robot

        hmm… i didn’t realize that you know me. you are a great example of one of the many things that are wrong with this country. you appear to have a very selfish and narrow little view of the world. i suspect that you’re nothing more than an ignorant senior citizen… not much that can be done about that. and i have a life, sweet-cheeks… and with that life, i have freedom. but it didn’t come cheap. freedom costs a buck o’ five.

      • Angel Brava

        Pretty much what I thought. Everyone that disagrees with your weak arguments is ignorant except for you. You are the poster boy for “Narcissist United.”

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      • doctor_robot

        the tea-party bit seems to be appealing to DGReid (who has apparently decided to hide his name now, as he is now posted as “guest”) and angel. they’re ass-holes.

        i agree that college isn’t for everyone, but i feel it should be made available to everyone, which it is not. by which i mean that it is not really feasible for some considering the costs and/or other circumstances depending on the individual. higher education costs in this country are criminal… but this is coming from a guy who feels that it should be as close to free as possible. should be seen as a way to rape people for profits… especially by our own government.

      • Angel Brava

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      • doctor_robot

        not sure if that’s a threat or a pick-up line. oh… and liking your own comment is fun, huh?

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      • Sorry, that “bootstraps” bullshit is just that…bullshit. Just because YOU did it, doesn’t mean everyone can.

        “If you make it [college] free, everyone will go.”

        And this would be a bad thing…why? This is regularly done in Europe. We need to catch up with the rest of the civilized world.

      • nette

        Exactly how did you put yourself through college and grad school? Please be specific. Your story has been told a million times. I can hear the violin. Tell me how determination got your though without the Government. I suppose you went to a private school with holes in your shoes.

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    • Stephen Barlow

      Make taxation flexible. Make a baseline revenue stream to operate the government. Then if we need war, tax the rich. New corporate tax break, make the stockholders pay more taxes, NOT THE WORKERS!

    • DGReid

      The author waxes on about how we could have a perfect world if we just wanted to. Do any of the people here actually understand global economics or science. There is no evidence of such. Rather than explain how we could implement and pay for their perfect world, they just say “everybody else does it” and “get the money from the 1%”. How simple. How tidy. How detached from reality. How childlike.

      • Kati Brown

        How is equality detached from reality? For women and gays? What good comes from war? What harm comes from cleaner drinking water and safer food? How is it childlike to realize that privatizing government run things is not good, and will cost individuals thousands more dollars? I’m at a loss as to why you think universal healthcare wouldn’t work here and that using the fact that everybody else does it, and manages to make it work, why we couldn’t? How pessimistic.

      • DGReid

        Kati, I also wished we had a world without pain, disease, bad manners, and ugliness – and then I grew up. In the first place, people may be created equal, but from that point on, it just isn’t so. Try defining what you mean by equal.

        I could address each of your points one-by-one, but instead suggest you take a good course in economics if you really want to understand what you are suggesting. Society can do many things, but it can’t do everything.

      • Kati Brown

        You can’t make it so people don’t cause other people pain, but you can legislate against it and they can be arrested for it. Same for inequality with homosexuals and women. make it so it isn’t illegal for homosexuals to marry. Why would I need a course in economics to know that is the right thing to do? How does that affect the economy other than giving wedding shops more business?
        I do understand what I’m suggesting with my other scenarios, and there are examples of what i’m suggesting working in other countries around the world, and working better than what we have here. I know it’s possible. Why wouldn’t it be? Why not be afraid of the consequences of having shitty water and air? Why not be afraid of how guns are treated in this country and find alternatives everyone can live with to help with the problems that arise from gun ownership? What is stopping you from wanting these things, and why don’t you think it’s practical?

      • Andy Kinnard

        I don’t know what kind of delusion you’re suffering, but capitalism does NOT have to come ONLY in the form under which we are currently suffering. Capitalism can and has been much more beneficial to a broader swath of the people than it currently is. Stop being an apologist for the 0.1%ers.

      • So your definition of “equal” is a world where, as George Orwell said, “Some [people] are more equal than others”?
        I don’t think so. I refuse to “grow up” if it means being heartless and cruel, which is evidently what you’re suggesting. If that’s what capitalism is, than capitalism needs to be changed.

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      • Andy Baker

        How child like are you shit head republican hypocrites?
        Mine mine everything is all mine! I only take! I would poison my ocean before I would ever even consider giving a cup of it back to those that filled it!

      • We could have, not a perfect world, but a damn sight better one, if everyone would understand that the PURPOSE OF A CIVILIZED SOCIETY is cooperation and helping one another, instead of “I’ve got mine, fuck you.”

        If you don’t want to live in a civilized society, please move to the Alaskan wilderness or your own island. We won’t miss you.

      • DGReid

        First of all, civilized people don’t use the language you do. Your idea of civilized society is one where people think like you do – or they should just leave. Unfortunately, everyone else has the same idea. Perhaps we should force everyone to think the same way?

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      • MissMudgeon

        I find it enlightening that Guest admits that a liberal world is “a perfect world”, before going into arguments about how impossible it is. There are countries in which each of these “perfect world” items exists. Right now. Which means we CAN have that perfect world. The economics really do support it. In other words, it really is just Republicans who are in the way.

    • Kathleen Allen

      It is possible if we stopped caring just about ourselves and think beyond today. What would the country be like if more people had access to good quality higher education. Lower poverty rates, better educated people to compete with the better educated foreigners in the job market that could allow more companies to keep jobs here instead of overseas, and it can be paid for by making it a priority over more military spending and tax breaks for the wealthy and corporations. But Fox teaches their followers that we’re all in it for ourselves and the poor just need to work harder….remember the GOP debates and “pull yourselves up by the bootstraps”. I get sick of hearing how Democrats have no idea how to achieve the ideas they propose. They certainly do but Fox keeps telling us the country would be better if the rich keep more of their money and if corporations get to keep their tax loopholes. IT DOESNT TRICKLE DOWN. It stays up there in the 1% and the poor can’t even get a livable minimum wage. Stop being selfish people. We are the greatest country and #1 should be that we care about every American not just 1% of them.

  • Booya Bible

    Epic.

  • ksec

    And god forbid …living wages…shudders

  • Mark Goshgarian

    What a nightmare!

  • Rough Acres

    … can you imagine an election WITHOUT MONEY???

    I can. Join the ONLY “money-free” campaign for Congress in the entire United States: write-in “Rita McKee” in New York’s 13th District – and tell Charlie Rangel, “thanks – but 44 years is long enough.”

  • Robert Scalzi

    Excellent piece Allen.

  • Bill Davis

    Better dead than Red. Screw the evil GOP bastards!

  • Grand1

    The worst part is that liberals blend in like average people. Oh, sure you can tell a liberal if he’s hip, has a couple of days beard growth, wears tassel loafers and drinks bottled water. Other than those clues, they look like everybody else. They’ve even infiltrated our news organizations on television!
    They wear suits and ties and talk all proper and that, but what they say is straight out of Rules for Radicals!!! Be sure too check out the person next to you. You could be in danger of losing your soul. He, and more likely, she might be a liberal!

    • Kim Serrahn

      🙂

  • Kim Serrahn

    Well you’re all going to have to wait till all of my generation (hippies) are dead and buried. So there pfffftttttt.

  • Kent J. Krizik

    Ahh sarcasm. I love it.
    The Sarcasm Society – “Like we need your money” 🙂

  • msaxie

    Excellent read. Well done, sir.

  • rejectrepublicanlies

    The GOP’s vision for America is ominous and terrifying. The appeal to the most base of emotions and stir up hate, fear and paranoia.