Fact-Checking Site Finds Fox News Only Tells the Truth 18 Percent of the Time

For liberals, it’s not exactly “breaking news” to find out that Fox News is mostly comprised of misinformation or flat-out lies.  Anyone with even a shred of common sense can watch just a handful of their featured shows and see that the entire channel is nothing more than a propaganda mechanism for the Republican party.

Punditfact, a branch of Politifact, has put together profiles for CNN, MSNBC and Fox News detailing just how honest each of these networks are.  And while it’s obviously not a completely comprehensive profile (it would be nearly impossible to fact check every single thing said on each network) it’s a decent measure of the honesty of each.

And what do you know, Pundifact found Fox News to have only told the truth 18 percent (15 of 83) of the time for the statements they checked.  And even of that 18 percent, only 8 percent of what they said was completely “True.”  The other 10 percent was rated as “Mostly True.”

A staggering 60 percent (50 of 83) comments were found to be either “Mostly False,” “False,” or “Pants on Fire.”

The other 22 percent were rated “Half True.”

Essentially well over half of what Punditfact has fact-checked on Fox News has been a lie and only 18 percent has been deemed factual.

To compare, CNN was found to have been honest about 60 percent of the time, while only having 18 percent of their comments found to be false.  As for MSNBC, they were found to have been honest about 31 percent of the time, while 48 percent of the comments they had fact-checked were deemed untrue.

So while MSNBC’s numbers aren’t exactly worth bragging about, they’re still far better than the “fair and balanced” Fox News.

Though I’m sure any conservative who might run across this article, or the Punditfact profiles, would simply dismiss the results as “liberally biased lies.”

You know, because anything that’s not approved by Fox News or some other right-wing media source is clearly “liberally biased propaganda.”

Which is really a fantastic piece of rhetoric, isn’t it?  Fox News, and other right-wing media sources, can lie as much as they want.  Then if any other source debunks the nonsense they’re spewing, the conservative media simply dismisses it as “lies perpetuated by the liberal media.”

It’s how conspiracy theorists manipulate their sheep.  They perpetuate some kind of asinine conspiracy, then when it’s completely debunked, they claim the information debunking it is “all a part of the conspiracy.”

And that’s exactly what the right-wing media does.

Which is why tens of millions of conservatives believe that Fox News is a “fair and balanced” beacon of truth, despite the fact that Punditfact found only 18 percent of their comments to be factual among a fairly large sampling of 83 relatively important statements made on the network.

Allen Clifton

Allen Clifton is a native Texan who now lives in the Austin area. He has a degree in Political Science from Sam Houston State University. Allen is a co-founder of Forward Progressives and creator of the popular Right Off A Cliff column and Facebook page. Be sure to follow Allen on Twitter and Facebook, and subscribe to his channel on YouTube as well.


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  • Harvsbuddy

    Did they do a break down by show and host as well?

    Just guessing, but I bet most of MSNBC’s factual problems are during “Morning Joe” and Andrea Mitchell.

    • Sandy Greer

      The three blue links (Fox News, CNN, MSNBC) break down what
      was said, by whom. Too, one can see ratings of ABC and CBS. MSNBC ‘factual problems’ are as follows:

      Rachel Maddow = 1 Pants on Fire, 5 False, 5 Mostly False
      Ed Schultz = 2 Pants on Fire, 1 False, 3 Mostly False
      Chris Matthews = 1 False
      Lawrence O’Donnell = 1 False, 1 Mostly False
      Keith Olbermann = 2 False
      Joe Scarborough (Morning Joe) = 2 False
      Al Sharpton = 1 False, 1 Mostly False
      Ronan Farrow = 1 Mostly False
      MSNBC (Daily Rundown) = 1 Pants on Fire

      Andrea Mitchell had only one Half-Truth. The other 14 falsities were uttered guests, pundits, and commentators. My MSNBC faves are Rachel Maddow (for her insight) and Ed Schultz (tells it like it is) But I balance them:

      One should gather news from many sources: Cables (especially CNN) and networks. From print, and online. PBS, and foreign. Up to us to search out Truth – or settle for less.

      • KIdGallahad

        Hear hear – find out as much as you can on everything and discern. We’ll never know everything – we’re only human.

      • Harvsbuddy

        Wish there were more of us, Sandy!
        Thank you for finding that.

      • Wow! So you really believe him? That easy?

      • Harvsbuddy

        If you are only getting your information from one side
        (right or left) you stand a better chance of being misinformed.
        Maybe, Sandy has the number of lies for Fox if that makes you feel better.
        All I did was thank him for finding information, and agreed about using more than the usual sources most people do to get information.
        You have a problem with that?

      • Darin Martin

        We’ll never know everything because the government lies as the original source. And by that I mean reporting on things we have no way of verifying that happen overseas

      • ToTripoli

        I suppose that’s true… if you don’t bother checking news from overseas, and don’t bother communicating with anyone overseas.

        You do know the internet is a global thing, right? Not just American? You can verify things from overseas incredibly easily in a matter of moments with a simple search.

      • Steven S

        Keith Olbermann?????? He hasn’t been at MSNBC for years.

      • Sandy Greer

        True he no longer works MSNBC. The two falsities he made were in June 2009 – and July 2010.

        But the fact he left MSNBC in Jan 2011 does not negate anything he said – true or false – while employed there.

        Records of public entities are not expunged when employers are changed. Like it or not – Public records become part of the resume. They don’t start ‘fresh’ any more than you and I do.

        PunditFact (powered by Pulitzer Prize winner PolitiFact) had a right to weigh the truth of what he said while he was employed at MSNBC.

      • Steven S

        I realize all that. But this is 2014 and Politfact had to go back to 2009-10??? Tto find a sample of statements on 24 hour cable news shows for a story published in 2014!!! I despise Fox but this story has no credibility either way Left or Right.

      • Sandy Greer

        Maybe you’d like the more recent Pants on Fires?

        MSNBC – April 2014
        Rachel Maddow – June 2013

        Better? No? All you have to do is follow the blue link. Or not – if you’d rather not know.

        I like MSNBC myself. Said so in my first post. But I
        don’t mind looking at the truth. Don’t care how far back it goes. I want to know.

        You don’t have to. Up to you.

        In any case, it’s not a personal affront to look at the
        public record. Even if it is ancient history (5 years ago) Good Lord.

      • funny how there is no mention of the Pentagon refuting the stories flying around in the news – you know how cointelpro works right – you plant stories? once a narrative is in place it sticks 90% of the time … a majority of Republicans believe there were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq to this day … so it’s quite telling that the Pentagon never stepped forward at the time to clear the matter up isn’t it?

      • Renee Reinhardt

        The same good lord who advocates murder for stupid things in a book of myths over 5 years old, that you consider an ancient time frame?

      • Sandy Greer

        And you know what I consider – HOW – exactly?

        LMFAO at people who presume to know what others consider.

      • Charles Vincent

        Still having issues discerning between the covenants god made with the Jews and the one Jesus made with us Gentiles I see.

      • Jon Wareham

        Whether the covenants were made with the Jews or the Gentiles doesn’t take any value away from what Renee said. It’s still the same God of the Bible. Were you implying that Jesus and God are completely separate and the Old Testament isn’t valid?

      • Sandy Greer

        How is what Renee said of ‘any value’ at all if she assumes what I believe?

        ^^^She took an exclamation (similar to OMG) and ran with it. Now that’s the Truth. Said I “consider an ancient time frame”. How the hell does she know what I ‘consider’? Her assumptions are simply staggering – in this post, and in her other, to me.

        Would you think it ‘valuable’ I make assumptions about you? Or Renee?

        Jesus Christ. What the fuck is wrong with you people – that you think it ‘valuable’ we make assumptions about each other?

        No wonder both Left and Right got all worked up over the same damn post.

      • Jon Wareham

        My post was directed at the statement about covenants that Charles made. It wasn’t intended to imply anything about you, Sandy.

        After you said, “Even if it is ancient history (5 years ago) Good Lord.” It sounded like Renee was asking if you meant that as a religious expression (in a rude way of course lol). Her issue with comments about spoon feeding made a statement about the way you’ve have been phrasing some of your comments.

        You can make assumptions about me if you want, but I’m probably not going to take them offensively. If your assumptions helped me understand the way people interpret my actions, I would try to apply them as constructive criticism for myself. But that’s just how I am. I tend to internalize what I experience and try to figure out how to use it in a good way.

      • Sandy Greer

        To be clear – I made no assumptions of you. Rather:

        Chose my words with care, in my post. To illustrate how it is of absolutely no ‘value’ at all for us to make assumptions about each other.

        Renee (or anybody else) ‘gets to’ dislike what I say and/or the way I say it. I already know I can’t please all the people all the time. I don’t even want to:

        Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don’t matter, and those who matter don’t mind. ~ Dr Seuss

        As an aside – If I were to make any assumptions about you – It would be that you’re a good guy; even-handed. In any case, I appreciate your prompt return to the post.

      • Charles Vincent

        yes it does because covenants are like contracts they only apply to the parties that agreed to them she doesn’t get that and neither do you apparently. different contract different rules and such.

      • Jon Wareham

        Maybe we just have a fundamental disagreement here. If a guy named Boss made a contract with people in the past that advocated murder, I would be pretty hesitant to sign a contract with him. Even if the new covenant has different rules, it’s still the same Boss that did those terrible things without admitting any wrongdoing. Contracts like that effect everyone, not just the parties who agreed.

      • Charles Vincent

        Your missing the point, the contract with the Jewish people had Laws you can read them in context in the Jewish bible the torah I believe. In the old testament there were covenant with Adam and then later with Noah. god also made covenants with Moses. IF you go and read them they are laws about punishment of crime. i.e. if you murder someone you forfeit your own life.

      • David Fronius

        Charles, if one murders another, the murderer’s life is forfeit? If that be the case, then why didn’t God take his own life for the several mass genocides he caused, including the supposed ‘Great Flood,’ where (other than Noah and his family who somehow re-populated the world) men, women, children, the unborn, and the many animals that didn’t make the trek to be saved by the Ark? This same God, in total, broke 3 of the 10 Commandments he gave Moses, including adultery and coveting a married woman (Mary). This same God turned a blind eye to Adam and Eve’s own children committing incest and then marrying each other. This same God supposedly gave Adam and Eve ‘free will,’ and yet controlled all the variables in the Garden of Eden, even Satan. So in the end it was a story about a cruel joke put in place by a fallible God, who set up man to fail in the first place.

      • Charles Vincent

        Cool story brah.

      • regressive teaparty trash

        delightfully accurate!

      • Isaiah Sloss

        The way you go about this argument is flawed my friend

      • Sandy Greer

        I’m Spiritual. Believe in God. Find ‘value’ in all religions – all beliefs. But don’t adhere to any – and don’t attend church (save for weddings and funerals) Can’t pretend to be a Biblical scholar.

        But my understanding is (for Christians) New Testament overlaid the Old. IOW:

        The Wrath of God (depicted in the Old Testament) is overlaid by the Love of God for this World (depicted in the Sacrificial Lamb of Jesus Christ)

        ^^^Hard to explain, to those who don’t believe. But that’s the way I see it.

        And why I can look at the Old Testament (Wrath of God) and see the good in the New (Jesus Christ)

        May even explain how I can look at Pants on Fires issued by Rachel Maddow and Ed Schultz (as per my OP that started this whole mess) and still watch them, on TV. 😉

      • Jen

        If you were correct in your understanding of the old and new testament, the bible would not contain these words: King James Version Matthew 5:17 “Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.” Only cherry pickers ignore the parts that support their theories. Same god before and after. I’m an atheist BECAUSE I studied the bible.
        And as far as all this bickering about which news source lies the most – they all lie. It’s a damn shame and a national disgrace. I am not sure that it wasn’t ALWAYS this way but just became more obvious since we have more hours of it on TV. I try to go by this guideline: If it makes me pause, either in support or disgust, I go look for outside information on the matter on my own.

      • Michael Patrick Druso

        You are mostly the only one here with a clear head on their shoulders and a big part of it is because you are not any kind of a God head and most likely take full responsibility for your own actions… this is why neither side can really grasp that both sides are just as equally liars and mislead their own parties in the direction of who pays them to get on the air to begin with… without being God blinded (fear mostly) we can see the wrongs even with the sides we lean more towards… I think Democrats exploit the sides they say they fight for, while all I can see out of Republicans is trying to use holy books and scripture to force down the rest of the countries throats because they don’t happen to agree with certain peoples life and the way they live them (Homosexuals). In the end I would rather have the exploiters in then those that point their fingers and scream because God and have the power to pass laws that will effect entire groups of people for just being who they are.

      • Goldenarm9

        O.T.= Biblical History
        N.T.= Biblical Grace
        I’m sure you are familiar with history , right?

      • Jon Athon

        That is because you can’t get the truth from Politifact!

      • Jon Athon

        I guess that shows us how true this article is! Not at all!

      • JBlaze

        Of course this isn’t accurate. They just did a ‘real’ check of the facts (not owned by a liberal site) right after Obama won his second election. Fox was double digits AT MINIMUM more truthful. If you haven’t noticed, this president, his administration, and the media in his back packet aren’t afraid to lie to us to get their ‘way’. You’re all dumb for defending ANY news source as good ones no longer exist in the mainstream.

      • Jon Wareham

        Why do you say, “Fox was double digits AT MINIMUM more truthful?” Have you spent time watching other news stations and comparing the evidence? Or have you looked at multiple sources of unbiased research on this topic?

        Keep in mind, if a poll reports that survey respondents said it’s trustworthy, it doesn’t mean that the site is more truthful. It just means that more people THINK that it’s more truthful.

      • DezzNutz

        Yeah, Fox and CNN are about the same on the truth and lies meter….both are also slightly partisan in their producing and reporting. Fox skews right, CNN skews left.

        The reason why MSNBC has the WORST ratings of any of these 3 networks is because MSNBC is FAR LEFT propaganda. Just like Politifact

      • hangemall123

        He was the best. Fired because he had the balls to tell Bush to go to hell. He told us the truth. I miss him.

      • fel121

        Well said and very accurate, good on you sir.

      • Eg Kbbs

        Sandy, you report the false statements but don’t report the number of statements which are true. Big difference between making 5 false out of 5 statement and making 5 false out of 20 statements.

      • Sandy Greer

        Oh my. You conveniently overlook that I Replied to OP of Harvsbuddy, who:

        >bet most of MSNBC’s factual problems are during “Morning Joe” and Andrea Mitchell.

        An irony: Harvsbuddy didn’t have the problem with my post you do. But welcomed the info.

        Quite obviously – If I had known so many would object to what they perceive as my criticism of MSNBC – I wouldn’t have posted at all. I fully realize some feel better knowing what they know (even if incorrect) and nothing more.

        ^^^Pity they’re Liberals. But not my problem.

        In any case, you are free to follow the blue link yourself. Which is what people should do – when they wish to ascertain ‘facts’.

      • Eg Kbbs

        No, I didn’t overlook that you were getting into a specious argument making a very basic mistake on the use of data. For someone who likes to talk about “facts” it seems you would want to convey an accurate representation of those facts.

        And, to use your phrase, Oh my, you seem to be seeing things in my post which aren’t there. I see nothing in my post that you are replying to that is either liberal or conservative. I fail to see where I defended MSNBC. All I see are two sentences which state a very basic principle of data interpretation, namely that your data lacks the denominator.


      • Charles Vincent

        As she suggested follow the little blue link I am sure you can manage that.

      • Eg Kbbs

        I have. My comment still stands.

      • Charles Vincent

        Right have fun being willfully ignorant and intransigent.

      • davidkc53

        Yet you libtards believe this short list of Obamas lies..

        1.) Selma Got Me Born – LIAR, your parents felt safe enough to have you in
        1961 – Selma had no effect on your birth, as Selma was in 1965.

        2.) Father Was A Goat Herder – LIAR, he was a privileged, well educated
        youth, who went on to work with the Kenyan Government.

        3.) Father Was A Proud Freedom Fighter – L IAR, he was part of one of the
        most corrupt and violent governments Kenya has ever had.

        4.) My Family Has Strong Ties To African Freedom – LIAR, your cousin Raila
        Odinga has created mass violence in attempting to overturn a legitimate
        election in 2007, in Kenya. It is the first widespread violence in

        5.) My Grandmother Has Always Been A Christian – LIAR, she does her daily
        Salat prayers at 5am according to her own interviews. According to the
        New York Times: “I am a strong believer of the Islamic faith,” Ms. Obama,
        85, said in a recent interview in Kenya.’ Not to mention, Christianity
        wouldn’t allow her to have been one of 14 wives to 1 man.

        6.) My Name is African Swahili – LIAR, your name is Arabic and ‘Baraka’
        (from which Barack came) means ‘blessed’ in that language. Hussein is also
        Arabic and so is Obama.

        7.) I Never Practiced Islam – LIAR, you practiced it daily at school,
        where you were registered as a Muslim and kept that faith for 31
        years,until your wife made you change, so you could run for office.

        8.) My School In Indonesia Was Christian – LIAR, you were registered as
        Muslim there and got in trouble in Koranic Studies for making faces (check
        your own book).

        9.) I Was Fluent In Indonesian – LIAR, not one teacher says you could
        speak the language.

        10.) Because I Lived In Indonesia, I Have More Foreign Experience – LIAR,
        you were there from the ages of 6 to 10, and couldn’t even spea k the
        language. What did you learn, how to study the Koran and watch cartoons.

        11.) I Am Stronger On Foreign Affairs – LIAR, except for Africa (surprise)
        and the Middle East (bigger surprise), you have never been anywhere else
        on the planet and thus have NO experience with our closest allies. You
        seek to disarm America while our avowed enemy, Iran, will not subject
        itself to a nuclear ban. Top Hamas politica l adviser Ahmed Yousef said
        the Hamas terrorist group ‘supports Obama’s foreign policy vision’.

        12.) I Blame My Early Drug Use On Ethnic Confusion – LIAR, you were quite
        content in high school to be Barry Obama, no mention of Kenya and no
        mention of struggle to identify – your classmates said you were just fine.

        13.) An Ebony Article Moved Me To Run For Office – LIAR, Ebony has yet to
        find the article you mention in your book. It doesn’t, and never did,

        14.) A Life Magazine Article Changed My Outlook On Life – LIAR, Life has
        yet to find the article you mention in your book. It doesn’t, and never
        did, exist.

        15.) I Won’t Run On A National Ticket In ’08 – LIAR, here you are, despite
        saying, live on TV, that you would not have enough experience by then, and
        you are all about having experience first.

        16.) Present Votes Are Common In Illinois – LIAR, they are common for YOU,
        but not many others have 130 NO VOTES.

        17.) Oops, I Misvoted – LIAR, only when caught by church groups and
        Democrats, did you beg to change your misvote.

        18.) I Was A Professor Of Law – LIAR, you were a senior lecturer ON LEAVE.

        19.) I Was A Constitutional Lawyer – LIAR, you were a senior lecturer ON

        20.) Without Me, There Would Be No Ethics Bill – LIAR, you didn’t write
        it,introduce it, change it, or create it.

        21.) The Ethics Bill Was Hard To Pass – LIAR, it took just 14 days from
        start to finish.

        22.) I Wrote

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        A Tough Nuclear Bill – LIAR, your bill was rejected by your
        own party for its pandering and lack of all regulation – mainly because of
        your Nuclear Donor, Exelon, from which David Axelrod came.

        23.) I Have Released My State Records – LIAR, as of March, 2008, state
        bills you sponsored or voted for have yet to be released, exposing all the
        special interests pork hidden within.

        24.) I Took On The Asbestos Altgeld Gardens Mess – LIAR, you were part of
        a large group of people who remedied Altgeld Gardens. You failed to
        mention anyone else but yourself, in your books.

        25.) My Economics Bill Will Help America – LIAR, your 111 economic
        policies were just combined into a proposal which lost 99-0, and even YOU
        voted against your own bill.

        26.) I Have Been A Bold Leader In Illinois – LIAR, even your own
        supporters claim to have not seen BOLD action on your part.

        27.) I Passed 26 Of My Own Bills In One Year – LIAR, they were not YOUR
        bills, but rather handed to you, after their creation by a fellow Senator,
        to assist you in a future bid for higher office.

        28.) No One Contacted Canada About NAFTA – LIAR, the Candian Government
        issued the names and a memo of the conversation your campaign had with

        29.) I Am Tough On Terrorism – LIAR, you missed the Iran Resolution vote
        on terrorism and your good friend Ali Abunimah supports the destruction of
        Israel. You state you will open friendly communication with the Leader
        of Iran who is attempting to develop nuclear weapons to destroy us, but
        refuse to speak to FOX news. You are against provisions of the Patriot
        act which would all wiretapping of the phones of suspected terrorists in
        the USA.

        30.) I Am Not Acting As President Yet – LIAR, after the NAFTA Memo, a dead
        terrorist in the FARC, in Colombia, was found with a letter stating how
        you and he were working together on getting FARC recognized officially.

        31.) I Didn’t Run Ads In Florida – LIAR, you allowed national ads to run
        8-12 times per day for two weeks – and you still lost.

        32.) I Won Michigan – LIAR, no you didn’t.

        33.) I won Nevada – LIAR, no you did not.

        34.) I Want All Votes To Count – LIAR, you said let the delegates decide.

        35.) I Want Americans To Decide – LIAR, you prefer caucuses that limit the
        vote, confuse the voters, force a public vote, and only operate during
        small windows of time.

        36.) I passed 900 Bills in the State Senate – LIAR, you passed 26, most of
        which you didn’t write yourself.

        37.) My Campaign Was Extorted By A Friend – LIAR, that friend is
        threatening to sue if you do not stop saying this. Obama has stopped
        saying this.

        38.) I Believe In Fairness, Not Tactics – LIAR, you used tactics to
        eliminate Alice Palmer from running against you.

        39.) I Don’t Take PAC Money – LIAR, you take loads of it.

        40.) I don’t Have Lobbysists – LIAR, you have over 47 lobbyists, and

        41.) My Campaign Had Nothing To Do With The 1984 Ad – LIAR, your own
        campaign worker made the ad on his Apple in one afternoon.

        42.) My Campaign Never Took Over MySpace – LIAR, Tom, who started MySpace
        issued a warning about this advertising to MySpace clients.

        43.) I Inspire People With My Words – LIAR, you inspire people with other
        people’s words.

        44.) I Have Passed Bills In The U.S. Senate – LIAR, you have passed A BILL
        in the U.S. Senate – for Africa, which shows YOUR priorities.

        45.) I Have Always Been Against Iraq – LIAR, you weren’t in office to vote
        against it AND you have voted to fund it every single time, unlike
        Kucinich, who seems to be out gutting you Obama. You also seem to be
        stepping back from your departure date – AGAIN.

        46.) I Have Always Supported Universal Health Care – LIAR, your plan
        leaves us all to pay the 15,000,000 who don’t have to buy it.

        47.) I Only Found Out About My Investment Conflicts Via Mail – LIAR, both
        companies you site as having sent you letters about this conflict have no
        record of any such letter ever being created or sent.

        48.) I Am As Patriotic As Anyone – LIAR, you won’t wear a flag pin and you
        don’t put your hand over your heart during the Anthem. There is a Cuban
        Flag with Che Guevara Displayed at Barack Obama Campaign Office which you
        allow to be displayed. You voted against making english the official
        language of the United States. You voted to give illegal aliens social
        security benefits, which would bankrupt the social security system for
        Americans legally paying into it.

        49.) My Wife Didn’t Mean What She Said About Pride In Country – LIAR, your
        wife’s words follow lock-step in the vain of Rev. Wright and Louis
        Farrahkan, in relation to their contempt and hatred of America.

        50.) Wal-Mart Is A Company I Wouldn’t Support – LIAR, your wife has
        received nearly a quarter of a million dollars through Treehouse, which is
        connected to Wal-Mart.

        Read more at http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/50lies.asp#tPF9vYfRx4JwUYiy.99

      • Charles Vincent

        I think you got the wrong guy. Perhaps you meant to reply to someone else.

      • Sandy Greer

        I find – oddly enough – I can live with the poor opinion of Eg Kbbs. And any others I need to:

        For the privilege of posting as *I* please – without conforming to what others would have me say – and/or
        the way they’d have me say it.

        Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don’t matter, and those who matter don’t mind. ~ Dr Seuss

      • Karin Love

        Of course you can post as you please, Sandy. But understand that your condescending tone and urge to ‘correct’ other posters invites your own posts to be scrutinized.

      • Charles Vincent

        Are you that daft she only highlighted what the author linked since apparently you and everyone else on this thread haven’t figured out how to utilize the blue links in the text of the article.

      • Karin Love

        I was talking about her attitude, not her links, Charles. Thought that was pretty obvious.

      • Charles Vincent

        She was only point out the facts and had you looked at the links you would have known this. If facts hurt you feelings you have bigger problems. Further more the only attitude problem here is yours and others who jump directly to personal attacks when people point out obvious facts which cause you to contract cognitive dissonance.

      • Karin Love

        Lol…get a grip, Charles. You care WAAAYYYY too much. I made a comment about her seeming condescending. She could be 100% correct….not the point of my post. At all. Calm down.

      • Charles Vincent

        So highlighting facts is what passes for condescension now?

      • Sandy Greer

        You betcha! LOL

      • anthonyadams

        I guess no one is allowed to have a perception or opinion that does not match yours, Charles. That is the Teapublican conservative model; and what goes along with it is the perceived righteousness that permits arguing with impunity as to facts and truthful data that might not support your own opinion. Yes…everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but not their own facts.

      • Charles Vincent

        Few things here Einstein.
        1) This article and my posts are 6 months old.
        2) You are clearly a moron that didn’t use the links in the article that were supplied by the author that refute the argument he(the Author) was making.
        3) Sandy Specifically pointed them out from the link location.
        4) Sandy stopped posting here because of Retards like you on the left and she is a Lefty.
        5) GG mouthbreather.
        6) Opinions are irrelevant, when you’re trying to make a factual argument. Again learn to read you moronic mouthbreather.

      • anthonyadams

        Well, Charles…it is pretty evident that you haven’t learned much nor progressed over the last 6 months. Your comments are still redundant and you repeat the same old tunes in your vain attempt to insult others and demean them…so can try to overcome your feelings of inadequacy and low self-esteem.
        As for being on the left of center, yes….I truly am. I see what being a conservative is all about and I want no part of that bullshit. You will never change my mind and convert me to your side…..but you will give me the occasional laugh….laughing at YOU, not with you.

      • Charles Vincent

        So saith the idiot that didn’t read the links in the article.
        Nice ASSumption rubber neck I am an Independent and I don’t want idiots like you on my side because like the retards on the left and right you are part of the problem.
        I implore you to read Sandy’s comments and the blue links in the article before you open your mouth again and look stupid.

      • majc

        Jeez! Stop being so hateful and insulting. It isn’t helping you or anyone by doing it.

      • Charles Vincent

        You might what to read the hate these monkeys unloaded on Sandy for pointing out the facts in the link from the article. I give back what I get.

      • Jerry Demint

        And now your just being a dick.

      • Charles Vincent

        Look this isn’t rocket science. I tried to explain this 6 months ago as did Sandy and apparently people still can’t use links the author posted in the article that flatly refute the argument he tried to make in the aforementioned article. That isn’t being a dick.
        This is me being a dick.
        “And now your just being a dick.”

        It’s you’re not your. Your is possessive, You’re is a contraction of you are… Yes grammar nazi at its finest.

      • ossiebee

        Pot, kettle, black…if you’re going to be a pedant, you need to be more careful with what you write yourself. This is from a post of yours 6 months ago:

        “Your missing the point, the contract with the Jewish people had Laws you can read them in context in the Jewish bible the torah I believe.”

        Your punctuation and capitalization is pretty awful, too, and not just in this post. Personally I try not to worry too much about such mistakes/laziness unless they make it hard to understand what someone is trying to say – in your case I *can* just about get it…but you certainly make it a bit of a struggle sometimes.

      • Charles Vincent

        Yes yes yes my grammar and punctuation aren’t perfect…
        You missed the point of my post chief. That point being for me to give Jerry Demint a reference point so he can distinguish between me using factual arguments and me just being a dick.

      • ossiebee

        No, I did get it, Charles (if I may). But I was so delighted at finding you doing the same thing six months ago I thought I was being frightfully clever and amusing turning it around. But then of course I ruined it (assuming it was something ruinable in the first place, which it wasn’t) by droning on about your general grampunc. What can I say? I’m embarrassed to re-read it, frankly.These things are better assessed in daylight and sober…in fact it was a wet, cold London night and I wasn’t.

        Butting into someone else’s half-understood conversation six months late is – even on the internet – tiresome and bad-mannered: your reply is remarkably restrained. And besides, cross-Atlantic political interchange is probably pointless – to our soft English ears you all sound somewhat to the right of Gengis Khan. I wish you a fine 2015, and a BBC-like proportion of vaguely true news stories. [Retreats to slit-trench and awaits incoming.]

      • Charles Vincent

        No worries. The fact is I normally fall here as you say; “Personally I try not to worry too much about such mistakes/laziness”
        I fully realize my grammar and punctuation failing which is why I don’t plug others on the subject what I really care about is that the idea being communicated comes across clearly. There are caveats though call them a guilty pleasure.


        “cross-Atlantic political interchange is probably pointless”

        Not neccasarily true our laws and constitution were based on British common law and works of many British scholars and philosophers Hobbes and Locke are a couple.
        Anyway have a good 2015 yourself.

      • anthonyadams

        Ah, yes….grammar; the distinction between “knowing your shit” and “knowing you’re shit.” The difference between “Let’s eat, grandma” and “Let’s eat grandma.”
        Charles, you are VERY adept at doing exactly what you accuse liberals of doing; you are a seeming expert at vitriolic speech and name calling of the first order.

      • Charles Vincent

        Here’s the thing Tony I don’t accuse liberals of anything I provide the facts and that leads them to things Like Grammar Nazi posts like yours just did.
        Beyond that I don’t care what you think of me because you don’t matter you add nothing to the discussion but more ad hominem Just like others here and I dont care if you dislike my method of dealing with people like you that resort to logical fallacy arguments and base name calling.

      • Richard Nixon

        I can go through MSNBC and CNN and find thousands of stories that I deem as lies. If I write a similar article, will you pretend journalist report that too?………I didn’t think so, you just go ahead and bash FOX as they keep beating your communist news network, and the seldom watched tax evader network, otherwise known as MSNBC, like the little bitches they are!

      • Helperdognme

        Without reading the links I already know you are hateful and insulting. Reading the links will not change that fact.

      • Charles Vincent

        So not only have you not read all the replies, you’re butt hurt because I was mean to people who were being mean to some of the other posters. GG chief.

      • Jerry Demint

        I would add, your hat looks goofy.

      • headjones

        I was paying attention to you until this post. Diminishing someone else’s point doesn’t elevate yours (IMHO)

        Having reviewed the links, I understand the point made regarding the data, and would seem that the denominator FOR EACH HOST is relevant to a better understanding.

      • Charles Vincent

        Here is the thing. I only posted here to help Sandy Who took a bashing from the retards with cognitive issues. She pointed out that the authors numbers were Bullshit.
        I don’t tolerate people who treat me poorly and i give back to them what they dished out to me in spades. You don’t have to like it. The facts in the link speak for themselves but not many bothered to look they just started bashing Sandy, and then me for pointing out Sandy only pointed out the facts.

      • Helperdognme

        What bad misuse of the English language.

      • Charles Vincent


      • Kat

        No, the righteousness is reserved for liberals…who when presented with facts and figures cannot comprehend them and resort to the mature name calling

      • KuntLiquor

        Jesus H Christ, man. Were you dropped on your head as a baby, or did you suffer a massive head trauma later in life?

      • Charles Vincent

        AH yes another mouthbreather that failed to read the information in the article.

        The three blue links (Fox News, CNN, MSNBC) break down what
        was said, by whom. Too, one can see ratings of ABC and CBS. MSNBC ‘factual problems’ are as follows:

        Rachel Maddow = 1 Pants on Fire, 5 False, 5 Mostly False
        Ed Schultz = 2 Pants on Fire, 1 False, 3 Mostly False
        Chris Matthews = 1 False
        Lawrence O’Donnell = 1 False, 1 Mostly False
        Keith Olbermann = 2 False
        Joe Scarborough (Morning Joe) = 2 False
        Al Sharpton = 1 False, 1 Mostly False
        Ronan Farrow = 1 Mostly False
        MSNBC (Daily Rundown) = 1 Pants on Fire

        Andrea Mitchell had only one Half-Truth. The other 14 falsities were uttered by guests, pundits, and commentators.

        My MSNBC faves are Rachel Maddow (for her insight) and Ed Schultz (tells it like it is) But I balance them:

        should gather news from many sources: Cables (especially CNN) and
        networks. From print, and online. PBS, and foreign. Up to us to
        search out Truth – or settle for less.
        Courtesy of Sandy Greer who posted this on this page in this comment section

        GG ignorant mouthbreather.

      • KuntLiquor

        dick breath, is mouth breather your excuse for a put-down? if that is the best you can come up with, your lame attempt at insult raises your ridicule index more for using it than it does for who you use it on. but you, like most of your fellow sufferers of recto-cranial inversion, probably won’t notice anyway.

      • Jerry Demint

        Pot. Kettle. Black.

      • Alana Marie Woolard

        What I have a problem with is that politifact stated thes as fact and I went to the article, read it and it doesn’t’ make sense!

      • Charles Vincent

        Did you use the links in the article?

      • Alana Marie Woolard

        Yes I did! Thank you!

      • Charles Vincent

        Did you see the links she mentioned on the pages the first links took you to?

      • Sandy Greer

        Alana – Blue links (Fox News, CNN, and MSNBC) each open up new window. Many statements made – and by whom – are shown. Links on each statement take you to full-page articles on each statement.

        You can ascertain Truth or Lie yourself.

        TV tab up top shows ABC, CBS, Fox, CNN, and MSNBC.

        You can enter Obama in Search box and see him too.

        Good Luck!

      • truth_machine

        “it doesn’t’ make sense!”

        That’s simply because you’re a moron, Alana.

      • Joziah

        Reading links won’t change the fact that Charles is a prick…

      • Kevin Stall

        I have a bigger problem with who supplies the money for these sites. Soros is everywhere, he pays top dollar to put across his propaganda. Don’t trust Polifact or any other fact checking site before you cross check the material.

      • Sandy Greer

        What others think of my attitude is not my business.

      • Jerry Demint

        I didn’t get any condescending tone from her comment. But yours is dripping with it.

      • Sheila McAndrews Toomey

        You’re using a Bernard Baruch quote that’s been misattributed to Dr. Suess The irony!.

      • andreaallennyc

        Well, for me, the little blue link didn’t actually lead me to that data … Though I could find the info on Maddow. So I admire Sandy even more for finding out so much info … But she still should have shared the total number of statements rated. (For Maddow, it was 24 total statements, with 12 on the true side and 12 on the false side. For Glenn Beck it was 27, with 11 on the true side and 16 on the false side.)

      • Charles Vincent

        Sandy Greer>Alana Marie Woolard • 6 months ago

        Alana – Blue links (Fox News, CNN, and MSNBC) each open up new window. Many statements made – and by whom – are shown. Links on each statement take you to full-page articles on each statement.

        You can ascertain Truth or Lie yourself. TV tab up top shows ABC, CBS, Fox, CNN, and MSNBC.

        You can enter Obama in Search box and see him too.

        Good Luck!

      • andreaallennyc

        Yes, it takes a lot of work to get to the numbers. But it is interesting to see the statements and the context.

      • Karin Love

        heh heh 😉

      • Jerry Demint

        She didn’t accuse you of saying anything about liberals. She added a new concept to the conversation. Some people do that. Like other have said, follow the blue link. Pull the orange carrot out of your butt.

      • oakgroveinn

        Isn’t it pitiful how diligently people will defend the most egregious liars? To prove what? The far far right today cannot operate without lying. Often. Of course politics being what it is, facts get spun until we’re drunk from it, but facts are facts. Opinion is opinion. And when you’re caught saying you didn’t say what you’re accused of having said, and there’s video to prove you’re lying, and you continue to bash the gotchas and ignore the truth that YOU LIE OFTEN… well, it’s no conspiracy. You’re just stupid.

      • oakgroveinn

        Sorry. Not stupid. Delusional.

      • Cliff Herring

        Yes! I notice this phenomenon DAILY! Particularly on the conservative side. They will defend these bozos with the fanatacism of a Nazi,or Hamas. It would be funny if it weren’t so sad….

      • Goldenarm9

        Who does fact checks on the fact check sites ?I will say nobody so that leads me to believe that those who live on the left will believe anything they are told by their fellow socialist comrades

      • Guest

        Goldenarm9: This is the only great comment I’ve seen on this post. You get an A!!!!

      • ToTripoli

        Goldenarm9: Not sure if parody, or Alex Jones/Glenn Beck fan…

      • Ally P

        Because the left is a beacon of truth? In the word of Michelle Tanner, “pu-lease”.

      • Sandra Moore

        I agree with you. Many brainwashed and ignorant people on this site.

      • James Johnson

        define liberal and dare tell the world that definition.

      • rejectrepublicanlies

        The stated data is only as valid as the omitted data.

      • txbillmc

        Absolutely, I’d be willing to bet MSNBC has more true, or mostly true than either of Fox or CNN.
        Rachel Maddow is the best educated of any of the cable networks.
        Both Maddow and Laurance O’Donnell tend to walk you through the details of the story.
        And both are more than willing to admit mistakes

      • anthonyadams

        Maddow always asks her guest if they thought she was correct in what she said…..and she gets everything nearly 99% of the time. The hosts on FOX, however, ask their guest a question and when the guest says something they don’t like or agree with, they then interrupt their guest with shouting and will not allow them to fully reply. And then, the FOX host sits with an arrogant and smug “I told them” look on their face. Hannity is the worst as he will ask a question and begin talking over his guest’s answer after just a few words and telling him how wrong he is. He also tries to ask a question expecting a yes or no answer when the answer cannot possibly be either; they he cuts down his guest. I am amazed that real people still go on his show; as I is, he loads up his show with fellow shouters and those who will support his egregious misrepresentation of truth and facts, thereby completely negated their phony slogan “True and Balance” – neither of which they are.

      • Paul Muenkel

        MSNBC will normally allow someone to talk and finish their statement. On Fox the Five and Hannity turn into shouting matches with everyone trying to talk over the other. No exchange of ideas, just talking points repeated louder and louder.

      • davidkc53

        Don’t bet what you don’t have. Besides, your way off base. Liberals lie and liberals believe the liberals lies. One big circle jerk full of libtardiness!

      • cjhutch
      • davidkc53

        Problem is, the hard left won’t tell you the true story or report it.

      • adcbeast

        News sources are a piss poor place to get your news ..

        They push DC think tank talking points ..

      • Sandy Greer

        Well, then. One wonders why you rushed to defend MSNBC (I quote, verbatim)

        >82% of the false statements that air on MSNBC are said by republicans repeating DC conservative think tank propaganda

        ^^^Which, turns out – is False. 28 Falsities by Anchors, and MSNBC itself. 14 perpetrated by guests; a handful were GOP. Not surprising: Not many Repubs on MSNBC. Few, and far between. Laughable, to assert they’d make 82% of the false statements.

        Again. Follow the blue link – if you want to know. Or don’t – if you don’t.

        Either way, clever touch – liking your own OP. 😀 LOL

      • Alana Marie Woolard

        Please be more specific! You are generalizing too much! I wonder what politifact says about Obama’s comments? Also, in regards to your surveys, are you taking into account all shows, ie., talk & news?

      • Sandy Greer

        Want more specifics? Less generalization?

        Follow the links in the article. See for yourself. Do your own research.

        ^^^It’s what they’re there for, after all. You can find Obama there too – easy.

        I shouldn’t have to spoon feed information to you. And honestly – You shouldn’t want me to.

      • Renee Reinhardt

        Personally, I have issue with those who make comments about spoon feeding as if they are all knowing and are sure of accuracy from their resources. Definitely a personal problem of looking at others from that type of attitude. What you all seem to lack in is how much they want us ignorant and how much everyone lies.

      • Sandy Greer

        >as if they are all knowing
        >Definitely a personal problem of looking at others from that type of attitude.
        >What you all seem to lack

        ^^^No assumptions there…

        Good thing I can live with the disappointment of your disapproval – and wouldn’t have it any other way.

      • Nathan D. Baker

        I didn’t take her comment to mean anything of the sort. She basically stated that one should be able to follow the links themselves and check things out for themselves. I shouldn’t take her at her word that the site says what she claims it to, I should go to that site and confirm it for myself. So if you don’t want to just get the lies, then you have to check the sources, in this case punditfact

      • Alana Marie Woolard

        Sandy, I did read the article! It was general! My point is when you watch some shows, they are generally peoples opinions,where I believe an actual “News” show should be fact based, meaning Hard Facts! The article was not specific, and if you are saying that News shows are lying then our Country is in serious trouble! They must be following the PPresident’s lead as he is the biggest liar of them all!

      • Sandy Greer

        But – What about the links?
        The links to Fox, CNN, MSNBC.
        ^^^From there, you can also find ABC and CBS. And Obama.
        You will find particular statements made – and corresponding articles – giving Truth or Lie to what is said.
        All the specifics – short of generalizations – a person could ask for.

      • ToTripoli

        Alana Marie Woolard: “They must be following the PPresident’s lead as he is the biggest liar of them all!”

        Yea, what with lying about WMDs in Iraq, that whole “Mission Accomplished” thing, promising to get bin Laden & then calling it off to start a war with an entirely different country, setting up wiretapping on citizens while claiming no such thing was happening…

        Oh, wait, that was the last Republican President.

        Moral of the story: all politicians lie, period.

      • Phil Bryant

        I like you.

      • Charles Vincent

        1) they are not her surveys they are provided in the article.
        2) Obama has already been credited with the lie of the year stop playing dumb.
        3) stop being lazy and google the information yourself.

      • Alana Marie Woolard

        Give me the site to google and I will!

      • Charles Vincent

        It’s in the article above. The text that’s blue are the links.

      • Tad Northcutt

        People who do not know how to use the internet should not be allowed on the internet.

      • Nathan D. Baker

        This statement already displays a high degree of ignorance. You “google” or web search for information, and the results come back as sites to check out that should contain the information you are looking for.

      • Alana Marie Woolard

        Further, if she is going to put information out, she should be responsible enough to site what shows?

      • Charles Vincent

        “The three blue links (Fox News, CNN, MSNBC) break down what was said, by whom. Too, one can see ratings of ABC and CBS. MSNBC ‘factual problems’ are as follows:”
        Courtesy of Sandy Greer in her op.

      • Nathan D. Baker

        How is Sandy generalizing?!? She went to the site mentioned in the article and responded back with specific facts from said site…

      • Alana Marie Woolard

        Nathan, thank you for your comments! I was referring to the article when I stated generalizing! I ound the site, everythings good! Typical BS Article, Still love Fox News.

      • truth_machine

        “Still love Fox News”

        Wow, an immensely stupid person loving Fox News … what a surprise.

      • Alana Marie Woolard

        As a matterr of fact II do! If you look closely Mr. Truth Macine, Rachel Maddow is a big fat liar! So much for your MSNBC!

      • truth_machine

        Looking closely or not, you’re a dishonest imbecile, Alana.

      • Nicolas Edwards

        Not when they are low budget non american, not based in the usa news sources.

      • Larry Meyer

        I’m not sure your list of 10 is not 10 pants since Keith Olbermann does sport shows. IT brings into question of the 5 + 5 on Rachel
        Where is your list for the other two republican CEOed media channels.

      • Sandy Greer

        >Where is your list for the other two republican CEOed media channels.

        Contained within the article are three blue links – Fox
        News, CNN, and MSNBC. Author inserted them,
        deliberately – expressly for your use.

        Following any of those links will also lead you to ABC and CBS stats.

        People who really want to know (something about anything) should do their own research. And not wait for it to be handed them – on a silver platter.

        Unless one is looking to be spoon-fed, that is.

        ^^^And there’s not much can be said about that.

      • Michael Goodwin

        All of your “many sources” are known left leaning outlets…how does that “balance them”???

      • Joseph Joseph

        Offering facts is not leaning left. Disagreeing with Republicans is not leftist. Its simply stating facts. If basing ones opinions on reality is liberal in gues you are right.

      • Charles Vincent

        You didn’t click the links did you? Even the lefty links paint a picture of both sides lying about things.

      • Charles Vincent

        Where is your list for the other two republican CEOed media channels.

        Contained within the article are three blue links – Fox
        News, CNN, and MSNBC. Author inserted them,
        deliberately – expressly for your use.

        Following any of those links will also lead you to ABC and CBS stats.

        People who really want to know (something about anything) should do their own research. And not wait for it to be handed them – on a silver platter.

        Unless one is looking to be spoon-fed, that is.

        ^^^And there’s not much can be said about that.

        Courtesy of sandy Greer

      • Alana Marie Woolard

        That’s exactly the information I am trying to ferret out!

      • truth_machine

        “known left leaning outlets…”

        Yeah, any source that tells the truth is “left leaning”, as far as Faux News watchers are concerned.

      • licoricemedusa10

        You should start with Democracy Now and compare how much Cable, network and PBS omit. You’re looking for information in all the wrong places.

      • Heath Walker

        Rachel is known for going back & correcting misinformation & accidents.

      • DezzNutz

        So will O’Reilly, but who cares both have agendas

      • Barry Carver

        How old is this Sandy? Keith Olbermann has not been with MSNBC for a couple of years now! your numbers are highly suspect!!!!

      • DezzNutz

        Hes been gone since 2010. This study should EASILY have found stories from JUST this year, maybe go back to 2013 to compare too.

        The fact they went back that far skews the story, it lets you know they wanted to pick and choose what stories to rate.

        Theres lies, damn lies, and there is Statistics. Politifact reeks of Statistics

      • Chuck Jones

        Ed Schultz tells it like it is? HaHaHa. Best line of the year.

      • Ken Granderson

        Keith Olbermann has not been on MSNBC since 2011….?

      • Cliff Webb

        Even Maddow lies like a corporate whore rat when it comes to foreign affairs….

      • andreaallennyc

        Sandy, you really do need to include the total number of statements. There really is no other way to compare the various MSNBC people. Not sure why you got so defensive. It was very good of you to go to the trouble of providing the info you did. But it is uninterpretable without knowing the total number of statements for each.

      • cspanjunkie1

        wow, you are one of the 13 ppl who watch msnbc?? and what about r.maddows’ sly comment about “a shame if something happened to the pizza place” & your pants on fires statements? oh please- I check so many other fact checking sites that your rosy glasses are not telling you the truth!!

      • Kenneth Harwood

        ya know its ok for them to lie to us because they do it all the time or they present half trues or say nothing but it not ok to put the truth out it may show ppl they are asleep and that some are trader on both side like the so called speaker of the house but they all go to far and want all to hate and cause trouble

      • Thomas Clement

        There is no reason to watch ANY of the MAIN (LAME) STREAM MEDIA. I find that I cannot stand ANYTHING they report on, but they never cover things that are of importance to ME, or the USA. They ALL SUCK.

      • Jeree White

        This site is rediculous..this claim is totally false and the fact checker was proved biased and wrong..it’s so old..you guys will do anything to promote false memes to make people not watch fox..doesnt work..i watch them all to compare and it’s no wonder you believe this crap if you watch only msnbc and cnn..totally slanted and one sided.

      • Toby

        Sandy, please cite your sources. Credible sites don’t use the terminology you do.

      • rejectrepublicanlies

        Keith Olbermann hasn’t been on “MSNBC” in like a decade.

    • blusue56

      I watch MSNBC usually for a couple of minutes most weekdays. I reach for the remote when they veer off into sophistry. It’s pretty easy to discern sophistry and rhetoric when you don’t rely on only one news source…

    • Cliff Webb

      If it’s about foreign affairs, she lies like a rat, same with Richard Engle…

    • Cindy C. Strait

      Thank you! I am so happy to know someone else sees Andrea Mitchell the same way I do. Lately I would even add Chris Matthews to the Mitchell and Morning Joe mix. And let’s not forget to add Chuck Todd.

    • Jeffrey Ritchie

      When you look at “who said what” among these ratings, you’ll notice that Fox News statements are made almost exclusively by Fox Personalities and conservative guests. Look at the ratings for False Statements from NBC/MSNBC. First up, Dick Cheney. Also present are Larry Pratt, John Sununu, Ralph Reed, and Dick Armey.

      So for allowing conservatives on their shows to spout lies, which the MSNBC hosts then argue against, the network is being penalized for behind untruthful. If you limit the false statements to only those make by people on the payroll, the NBC/MSNBC figures would drop by about a third – putting them essentially in the same range as CNN.

    • Dana

      Rachel Maddow is honest as well

    • EqualRice

      Or you know, Rachel Maddow.

    • darylgene

      Yeah, exactly right! The commies on the rest of the shows would always present the absolute truth, isn’t that what Pravda means anyway?

  • DavidD

    It’s best to avoid all of them and seek your news somewhere else among diverse sources.Always know who is behind the source and in whose intrests they support.Seek truth from facts not to gratify emotions or preconcieved notions.
    “Show me where a man gets his cornpone I’ll show you where he gets his opinion.” Mark Twain

  • adcbeast

    82% of the false statements that air on MSNBC are said by republicans repeating DC conservative think tank propaganda

    • ToTripoli

      Not true.
      I’m pretty far left-leaning, and I’ll still admit that MSNBC is almost as bad as Fox News as far as bias & misinformation goes.

  • William Fite

    Allen, you are doing exactly what the article on Punditfact said not to do. Typical liberal getting its facts wrong as usual.

    “The comparisons are interesting, but be cautious about using them to draw broad conclusions. We use our news judgment to pick the facts we’re going to check, so we certainly don’t fact-check everything. And we don’t fact-check the five network groups evenly. CBS, for instance, doesn’t have a cable network equivalent, so we haven’t fact-checked pundits and CBS personalities as much.”

    • Luke

      William, So this part of Allen’s article doesn’t clearly address exactly what you’re talking about:

      “And while it’s obviously not a completely comprehensive profile (it would be nearly impossible to fact check every single thing said on each network) it’s a decent measure of the honesty of each.”

      Also, by you saying “Typical liberal getting its facts wrong as usual.” how are you not painting with a broad and inaccurate brush as well?

      Finally, even your insult was incorrect. The liberal in your quote is a person, therefore you should have used he, she, or their instead of “its”.

      • William Fite

        Luke you have turned to the wrong side.

        1. Yes he did put that in the article, but that does not validate that he is doing exactly what Punditfact said not to do. Here are some examples:

        Which is really a fantastic piece of rhetoric, isn’t it? Fox News, and other right-wing media sources, can lie as much as they want.

        For liberals, it’s not exactly “breaking news” to find out that Fox News is mostly comprised of misinformation or flat-out lies.

        2. I was just doing exactly what he was doing.

        3. Go back to grammar school. I was right. Hate to burst your bubble but a liberal is a description of a person. belonging to or associated with a thing previously mentioned or easily identified. But then again in reality a liberal is not a person, it is an ideology that a person believes in.

      • drmclain

        However, you aren’t using ‘liberal’ to describe a person, you used it as a noun in place of a person, otherwise you would have said ‘a liberal person’. Even then, you should have used “he”, “she”, “their”, but not “it”. I know it’s a bit of semantic pedantry, but you insisted on arguing the usage.

      • William Fite

        2(used to represent a person or animal understood, previously mentioned, or about to be mentioned whose gender is unknown or disregarded): It was the largest ever caught off the Florida coast. Who wasit? It was John. The horse had its saddle on.

        I wish y’all would understand I used it right.

      • zach ng

        William, although I agree with your rhetoric, your grammar is actually wrong. The way you constructed your sentence implies that “liberal” is a gender neutral noun and the proper wording would have been: Typical liberal getting his or her facts wrong. Trust me, I teach college English. All of the examples you posted are completely different than your original sentence.

      • William Fite

        How about if I used it in this sentence.

        The company is hoping to increase its sales.

        Would that be wrong?

      • zach ng

        The example is still different. Company is not the same type of noun as liberal. A company is a thing while a liberal is a person… I don’t think Citizens United applies to grammar rules.

      • Luke

        I actually love that you used “y’all” in a discussion about grammar.

      • Guesty

        Good try, Luke. You are correct about the grammar, but let him spout his nonsense. It just shows him for what he is.

      • William Fite

        By the way Luke, thank you for agreeing that Allen is painting with a broad brush.

        Guesty and Luke, you are both wrong about my use of “its”.

      • Luke

        “By the way Luke, thank you for agreeing that Allen is painting with a broad brush.”

        Actually, I wasn’t agreeing with you. I was saying that you were demonstrating the same behavior that you were vilifying the author for. I think that’s hypocrisy.

        My original post was simply intended to invalidate your comment. You framed it as if the study said for the result not to be used to extrapolate certain data and you indicated that Allen was doing just that.

        If that’s what you intended, then I feel you are incorrect.

        Unsurprisingly, we will likely disagree.

      • William Fite

        You see the problem with your argument is that you did not state I was vilifying the author. You simply stated I was doing the same as the author. Which is correct.

        His second part of the article does exactly what I argue.
        I know we won’t disagree. That is the reason the democrat mascot is the donkey. They are very stubborn.

      • Luke

        I suspect you mean that we won’t agree… Though, if we didn’t disagree, I would really be happy for you.

        So you’re saying you were doing the same thing as the author (which you implied was wrong), but since I didn’t say that it was wrong, then my argument is somehow invalid. (Very circular, I know…)

        I didn’t think I had to spell it out. You did say: “Typical liberal getting its [sic] facts wrong as usual.”

        Were I to be a part of the group you were describing, I would assume that you were trying to insult me.

        So, if you were saying he was wrong to do X, and you were doing the same thing…

        That is the reason why the republican mascot is the elephant. They are very bad with proper usage of pronouns.

        (I kid. Everyone knows elephants are great with grammar.)

    • Eg Kbbs

      One study, I’d be cautious. Even two studies, I’d be cautious. But there have been so many studies with roughly the same results that it is hard to dispute them. Remember Faux at the center of reminding us that Iraq had WMDs ? And how did the resulting war turn out ?

  • Darrell Stephens

    You have to watch the cable clown news network PBS the Daily Show the Colbert Report and Google topic get some idea of what going on the world.

  • Luke

    The screenshot says just about all that needs to be said about why people watch FoxNews.

    • KIdGallahad

      Part of the leftist spin used by this very site to create that image you believe – wrong as it may be.

      • Luke

        Nice try. I used to watch Fox. Still do on rare occasion.

        How is that photo “leftist spin”?

  • Brad Penick

    18%? i’m surprised it’s that high

    • Karyyl

      That’s because it’s the ONLY channel that gets e-cigarette news right. Otherwise it would be 17%.

  • KIdGallahad

    Exactly what comments are being ID’d? And by whom and why were the ones not mentioned here (how convenient) cherry picked to give the illusion that this ridiculous number (82% lies and partial lies – seriously) was based on fact while conveniently leaving out one single detail. 83 comments by Fox News Channel in a single day that might be 2% of the 24 hour coverage. Does this include The Five and Red Eye? Those probably are about as in depth and factual as watching “The View”. If Brett Baer, Shepperd Smith, Greta Van Susteran (sp) Bill O’Reilly and Sean Hannity were knowingly lying to the point of defaming others (let’s face it – lies do that) they would be sued out of existence. This article is not new and I dismissed it a few weeks ago when I saw it or something like it. The liberal biased media, which the author happens to be part of hates conservative media with Fox being the most obvious recipient of their ire. But why? If you ever watch MSNBC/CBS as I do you would hardly know about Benghazi, the IRS scandal of targeting conservative groups to aid Obama’s re-election in ’12, the fact that Obama is the most responsible individual for the illegal alien invasion in Texas and elsewhere, Harry Reid’s hypocrisy, Nancy Pelosi’s incessant stupidity, etc. Do conservative politicos also gaffe? Absolutely! But these are the focus of liberal media outlets. This so-called scientific study (not) is likewise a slanted diatribe. Don’t want to believe me? Just go to MSNBC favorite Al Sharpton’s FB page of truncated statistics and look at HOW he presents his so-called facts, stirring the pot to create racism where it doesn’t exist, ignoring real issues and being a fawning mouthpiece for the current administration. CBS has been a joke since it tried to paint Bush #1 as a wimp (despite being a fighter pilot in WWII) and produced false documents just before Bush #2’s re-election for the sole purpose of attempting to cost him the election. But lies will out and Dan Rather thankfully got canned on that one. Wanna talk uncouth and having an extreme lack of civility? It rests squarely on the shoulders of the leftist media. Ladies and gentlemen, Martin Bashir! The disgusting, condescending nature of people like this is enough to turn off viewers, hence MSNBCs last place position in news viewership. I want to see overall coverage (if that’s possible), not some garbage study like this in cherry picking things for the sole purpose of presenting a supposed lack of credibility on somebody’s part solely by comparison over some indeterminate time period. This is borderline bogus.

    • Tristo

      If this was fabricated, wouldn’t MSNBC do better than 31%? Wouldn’t that take into account the Al Sharpton question posed? Do you REALLY think that Fox News tells the truth more than 18% of the time? If so, I pity you my friend.

      • KIdGallahad

        Perhaps the 31% is there to create credibility too – who knows. Yes I do believe that FOX is spot on in news coverage I don’t need pity from you, just investigate things for yourself and find out – I do as often as possible. The magazines/panel shows at night are opinionated, so assigning an arbitrary 18% or whatever based on those is irresponsible. Fox has the highest viewership in the US and it just burns the leftists that this is the case so in Alinsky fashion they want to marginalize their competition by creating an outrageous lie themselves to discredit FOX. It should make perfect sense to you. A liberal media fact checker finds more truth in liberal media than conservative media. WOW! How can that be!

      • Garrett Galloway

        Opinion is not news. You simply don’t understand the concept of news. News is reporting what is happening. News is not giving you opinions. That is what an opinion column in a newspaper is for. The opinions on Fox on a show that claims to be news is garbage.

        They have the right to their opinion, but we have the right to call them out for their bullshit. Don’t think that first amendment right (and we aren’t even the government which is all it protects you from) protects you from criticisim for being an idiot with your opinions.

    • Karyyl

      Fox news fired two reporters for refusing to lie and make up false quotes, then went to court in Florida to defend the firing on First Amendment grounds and won. Their argument: it is their First Amendment right to lie. They didn’t even deny it. There was another recent article where a Fox employee or spokeswoman said that Fox is entertainment, not news, and has no obligation to tell the truth. Other channels, whether liberal or neutral (I view CNN as neutral) get things wrong because they’re stupid. Fox does it on purpose. I can tell that Fox is smarter because they’re the only ones that tell the truth about ecigs.

      • McRCN

        Name the Fox reporters and cite your sources.

      • ktetch

        It wasn’t fox news, it was the Tampa Bay fox affiliate. They weren’t fired for not changing the story, but for publicly saying it was a lie.
        The journalist won in court, it wasnt until the appeals court that the networks got involved, claiming a 1st amendment right to lie, plus the fcc fact requirements were not a rule or regulation, so tge whistleblower statue didn’t apply. All the news networks, except npr, submitted amicus briefs on the affiliate side.

        the more you know…
        look up Jane Akre

      • DezzNutz

        You mean a LOCAL NEWS STATION, and NOT Fox NEWS network…

        This sheer idiocy is how the Left spreads their propaganda and lies

    • FD Brian

      your reply is bogus and sorely misinformed. the reason that MSNBC ranks toward the bottom in viewership is because progressives tend to rely on other news sources and not just one like conservatives.

      • Guest

        That and the fact that they’re annoyingly one sided.

      • FD Brian

        while MSNBC is slighted to the progressive side of the spectrum they are not in fact one sided. You just don’t watch it enough.

      • KIdGallahad

        I hope you really don’t believe that. Think of who their so called stars are. The fatuous Al Sharpton who could only get hired by MSNBC to create his hateful rhetoric and divisiveness, what a clown. Chris Matthews can’t speak civilly and looks like he’s been bending an elbow on some occasions – even he perpetuates through his typical fallacious lines of reasoning that the US is rife with racism, Rachel Maddow needs acting lessons – her phony smile and laughter at her own quips and predictable histrionics are as obnoxious as a horny dog at a lovely legs contest even though her info can be very enlightening. I can only take about fifteen minutes of her show. I can pretty well tolerate the Last Word guy – he’s the best they have going for them.

      • FD Brian

        But if all those people you don’t like were conservative, you would be fawning over them.

      • KIdGallahad

        You’re just guessing again – I never fawned over anyone.

      • DezzNutz

        Got-d*mn your dumb. Im a Libertarian Conservative, I get VERY LITTLE, to almost NONE of my news from Fox you blind fool. But go ahead, beleive what your tiny little mind wants to believe. Enjoy living in a bubble of ignorance

    • AdkBuddy

      Nonsense! FOX went to court, and won, to be able to lie.

      • Paul Julian Gould

        At least as far as their “opinion and entertainment” aspects go, FoxNews won that ability. It was never intended to extend to the hard news-reporting, but FoxNews has spent a couple of decades since the decision doing everything they can to blur that line.

      • Al Terpstra

        Just as politicians are protected during campaigns.

      • Karin Love

        That is a well documented fact. And still some people don’t want to believe it.

      • Charles Vincent

        And yet another hyperlink challenged person who also apparently can utilize google either.

      • Karin Love

        You’re responding to me? Are you disagreeing with me or being sarcastic?

      • Charles Vincent

        No I am commenting on your lack of critical thinking skills and your apparent inability to utilize the links the author provided and cannot see how poor his argument and facts are at proving his point. Instead you just toddled along with the crowd of lemmings.

      • Karin Love

        What the actual [email protected]& are you talking about Charles? I don’t need to re-read any links. I remember the actual court case and the facts leading up to it. This isn’t new. Are you sadly trying to protect Fox News? That’s adorable.

      • Charles Vincent

        Ask and he shall receive.
        “That is a well documented fact. And still some people don’t want to believe it.”
        I could careless about Fox News I was pointing out your piss poor attitude. And now your puerile attitude because I called you on your bs get over yourself.

      • Karin Love

        And your problem with my statement is??????

      • Charles Vincent

        Contained in the links to which I pointed out. You also seem to think liberal media doesn’t do the same thing, you can’t see the Forrest for the trees.

      • Karin Love

        On second thought, I’m done with you. Because you’re a lunatic. (Yes…that is my ‘piss poor additude’ at work. Live with it.

      • Charles Vincent

        Cry more please your tears fuel my happiness machine. Do you want your ball before you run along home?

      • Karin Love

        And just an FYI…the author I responded to provided no links. Are you getting lost on this thread or something?

      • Charles Vincent

        Go back and reread the article the words that are blue are links to his sources the very ones sandy mentioned here;
        Sandy Greer Harvsbuddy • a day ago
        The three blue links (Fox News, CNN, MSNBC) break down what
        was said, by whom. Too, one can see ratings of ABC and CBS. MSNBC ‘factual problems’ are as follows:

        Rachel Maddow = 1 Pants on Fire, 5 False, 5 Mostly False
        Ed Schultz = 2 Pants on Fire, 1 False, 3 Mostly False
        Chris Matthews = 1 False
        Lawrence O’Donnell = 1 False, 1 Mostly False
        Keith Olbermann = 2 False
        Joe Scarborough (Morning Joe) = 2 False
        Al Sharpton = 1 False, 1 Mostly False
        Ronan Farrow = 1 Mostly False
        MSNBC (Daily Rundown) = 1 Pants on Fire

        Andrea Mitchell had only one Half-Truth. The other 14 falsities were uttered by guests, pundits, and commentators.

        My MSNBC faves are Rachel Maddow (for her insight) and Ed Schultz (tells it like it is) But I balance them:

        One should gather news from many sources: Cables (especially CNN) and networks. From print, and online. PBS, and foreign. Up to us to search out Truth – or settle for less.”

      • Jason

        Buddy… All he said was that the Fox court case was a well documented fact.

      • Charles Vincent

        That case applies to all media not just fox. Both sides lie and distort facts and the onus is on us to find the truth. To say that only one side does it is intellectually dishonest and willfully ignorant. Sandy’s posts just put the facts under your collective noses for which she suffered the “wrath” of the lefts name calling.

      • Jon Wareham

        Charles, you misunderstood what Karin’s original statement meant. She was responding to the “author”
        (AskBuddy) who posted, “Nonsense! FOX went to court, and won, to be able to lie.” This is referring to the 2003 court case where a Florida Court of Appeals unanimously agreed with Fox News that there is no rule against distorting or falsifying the news in the United States.

        Fox News argued that, under the First Amendment, broadcasters have the right to lie or deliberately distort news reports on public airwaves. They won the case. Is it surprising that the other major news stations didn’t create national headlines about it? Viewers would have been furious and less trusting towards all news programs.

        Unfortunately, she didn’t realize how you misunderstood, so your proceeding responses sounded unrelated. Many of your comments were insulting and disrespectful – all over her original posting of, “That is a well documented fact. And still some people don’t want to believe it.” It’s useful to argue over facts and beliefs, but it doesn’t contribute anything valuable to insult the person.

        If you re-read the conversation you might see how the misunderstanding took place.

      • Charles Vincent

        I am aware of the case and that ruling applies to all media not just fox. This is why I don’t watch MSM

    • Richard Galvin

      If you follow the link it states Told one the “Pants on Fire” comment on MSNBC was by Ted Nugent

    • Jeff Mo

      “Exactly what comments are being ID’d?”

      Read the article and the links, and find out?

  • gremmie69

    ” … in my opinion Fux News is a last resort for kinda-sorta-almost-journalists whose options have been severely limited by their extreme and intolerant views; a media colostomy bag that has begun to burst at the seams and should be emptied before it becomes a public health issue.

    I sincerely believe that in time, good people will lose patience with the petty and poisonous behavior of these bullies and Fux News will be remembered as nothing more than a giant culture fart that no amount of Garlique could cure.

    I wish them all the luck that accompanies such malevolence.” — JIM CARREY

    • KIdGallahad

      In his opinion . . . . consider the source. A “has been” comedian holding on to bottom rung who has to resort to toilet humor to make a point. In insulting conservative American values he’s insulted a good portion of his audience. He’s a high school dropout for probably the best of reasons – he did so to help his family in a time of need and I admire the man’s dedication. Things seemed to have worked out well for him – kudos. But he’s still a high school dropout and has no collegiate level education. No understanding of the subtleties of economics and business or of even international politics more than likely. AN actor earns their living being phony and comedians confuse reality with lies to get laughs from the unknowing.

      • Bob

        I don’t agree with using Jim Carrey as gremmie69 did, or even like Jim Carrey much, BUT, I disagree about your description of him. A lack of a college degree does not necessarily mean he is an idiot or has no understanding of politics, economics, or business. Those may be true or not, I have no idea personally, but assuming they are simply because of his education level is unwarranted. Did Steve Jobs or Bill Gates have no understanding of business or economics?

      • Charlie

        I don’t think you know what the term “has been” means. Also, way to go parroting any jerk who doesn’t agree with a celebrity by calling them a “has been”.

    • Bob

      You’re quoting Jim Carrey, and you want credibility?

  • gremmie69

    watch Democracy Now online – it’s the best .

  • chula

    Would be interesting to compare to Colbert and The Daily Show…………

    • Andrea

      They would both get “completely true” across the board. They call out the liars in the funniest ways possible. I am going to miss the Colbert Show a lot when he leaves to replace Letterman (if he hasn’t already, there hasn’t been a new Colbert on this week).

  • truthadvoc

    A website like this one, that supposedly advances progressive interests, should be ashamed for perpetuating the lie that is Politifact.

    Part of the reason they have branded Maddow as the most egregious of the MSNBC anchors is, in part, due to the fact that she’s exposed them dozens of times for being ridiculous contortions of the truth. She’s shown that they don’t even have consistent definitions of what a “true” or “mostly true” statement is, and has mocked them for rating something that is an actual, legitimate fact as “mostly true.”

    Politifact is a politically-motivated spin machine, and goes out of its way to try and create false equivalencies where there are none. Much like Forward Progressives trying to say “MSNBC might be bad but Fox is REALLY bad.”

    There isn’t an equivalency at all. Fox perpetuates lies long after they’ve been exposed by time, facts, and evidence. MSNBC perpetuates truths long after people have stopped caring about them.

  • Guest

    Fuck this article.

  • Alan Mortensen

    I think I see a Debunktion Junction coming up on the Rachel Maddow show. She’s HATES Politifact and has torn apart a lot of their evaluations which often seem artificially critical of liberal sources to seem balanced. If she said some cats are black, Politifact would call it a half truth because she didn’t say some cats aren’t.

    • Mr. Peanut

      I’ve found Maddow to be, as far as pundits go, one of the best at actually building an argument.

      She states her case, lists the evidence, and states it again.

  • Mr. Peanut

    I like how this article casually glosses over the pitiful scores for CNN and MSNBC like it’s acceptable for a news organization to only be truthful 60% of the time so long as a different news organization is worse.

    “So while MSNBC’s numbers aren’t exactly worth bragging about, they’re still far better than the fair and balanced’ Fox News”

    So fucking what? If FOX news told the truth 5% all the time, does MSNBC get a pass for telling the truth 10% of the time?

    We shouldn’t be grading these people on a curve.

  • McRCN

    This is basically a hatchet job type article. If CNN and MSNBC were getting the facts right so often, they would have great ratings but their ratings are actually pretty awful. The problem is people in general are not buying the Obama spin anymore. Obama’s own ratings are dropping most from Democrats.

    Even the so called fact checked points listed in this article seem to be cherry picked statements from commentary opinion shows. Opinion shows on any network are not news, they are just opinion programs. Any one person’s opinion is going to be slanted by their political persuasion on these type of shows. If you do not understand that you should not be watching them.

    I would like to see an in-depth article verifying the actual news coverage. The biggest problem I have with a lot of the liberal news programs I watch is the omission of facts to skirt the whole truth. The recent Hobby Lobby case was an excellent example of that. The liberal news programs were never pointing out that Hobby Lobby was providing full access to 16 out of 20 FDA approved contraceptives (which the vast majority of women use) and only had a problem with 4 of them that induce abortions. However, the liberal spin was Hobby Lobby was refusing women access to contraceptives, which is just false. Of all the channels and programs I watched, it was only Fox that was that was covering the full news story on this issue.

    • DB

      Actually I believe if you look into it SPOTUS broadened the measure to include all forms of birth control. While Hobby Lobby only had an issue with 4 the final ruling included all 20 forms of contraceptive.

    • Soothsayer123

      Fox News tells viewers the news, facts and opinions they WANT to hear, not the news they need to hear. That’s what makes FNC so popular on cable. They have a monopoly on right-slanted news. CNN reports the news mostly down the middle. You can get that style of news for free on ABC, NBC and CBS.

      • KIdGallahad

        I won’t deny FOX is right leaning, but then so is most of the American public. Most of us hate the agenda driven moral decline of the country made out to be ‘perfectly natural’ by the leftist press which hates America.

      • Andrew Cohen

        Only 40% of americans acruelly consider themselves conservative. So most of the American public IS NOT conservative like you say.

      • gian keysTOOEASY flat mom

        and,,,,I ask the 40%:::::::::::
        what exactly are U “conserving”?

      • Karin Love

        I’ll bet that you heard that on Fox News.

      • giankeys luvs shemale porn

        really? so U ascribe to the oligophrenial notion that the MOSTLY right-leaning America VOTED overwhelmingly for Obama ( twice)???
        and what year did our decline start?
        jan 2009?

    • Soothsayer123

      The SC allowed HL — an ARTS AND CRAFTS STORE — to determine through religious beliefs alone that four methods of birth control were actually abortifacients, despite consensus from the medical community that they were not. HL was fine supplying all 20 to employees until the ACA forced them to realize just what methods were available. Sadly, the ruling applies to all 20 methods, potentially leaving women at privately held companies with no options at all.

      • Brenda

        They certainly do have options… they can do what we “big girls” have been doing for years… paying for our own contraception choices and not expecting this to fall to our employers! Sexual choices and their consequences are our own options, and I don’t expect anyone else to determine what i do with my body or pay for it.

      • Jon Wareham

        That’s good that many people will handle their own contraception responsibly. The problem is that unwanted pregnancies affect all of us, even if we have no relation to the person who got pregnant. It is in our best interest to invest in preventing STD’s and unwanted pregnancies for others. It would be great if we could count on everyone to be responsible, but history has shown that isn’t always what happens. When parents can’t adequately provide for their children it leads to more poverty, crime, and sometimes abandonment. Better to invest a little on it now than to spend a lot on it later.

    • angie497

      “If CNN and MSNBC were getting the facts right so often, they would have great ratings but their ratings are actually pretty awful.”

      I know this will be irrelevant to you, but ratings are not based a factual accuracy.

      • KIdGallahad

        Factualism plays a huge part in sustaining viewership, the other is whether there is a sense of objectivity in their reporting. With the exception of ABC News sometimes, the rest of the leftists/liberals in the news threw objectivity out decades ago to push an agenda they want to see foisted on America. FOX is the only truly objective news outlet on TV, its what information stations used to be like when I was a younger man – we need two more FOX – like stations to bring balance back to the 4th estate.

      • Sue Roediger

        Fox is NOT a “news outlet” it is registered as an “entertainment show” they did this to deflect the problems that came up when they were caught is so many “factually inaccurate” things.

    • truth_machine

      “If CNN and MSNBC were getting the facts right so often, they would have great ratings ”

      Congratulations, you are officially an imbecile.

      • giankeys luvs shemale porn

        FOX “news’ is watched by many many more than all others shows
        McDonalds is eaten at by many many more than all others
        congrads; YOU are an overweight poorly fed imbecile

      • truth_machine

        You’re even dumber than McRCN.

  • Sebastian L. Jackson

    I consider myself left-of-centre, but I don’t consume or trust left-leaning outlets any more than I trust Fox. Ideological outlets like Fox and MSNBC don’t just skew the news, they tell small groups of people the things they want to hear at the expense of any other viewpoint. What they do is establish and reinforce ideological bubbles that ratchet up political discourse instead of informing it.

    I would be interested to know how others would rank with Punditfact. I think RT would rank even lower than Fox on the truthfulness scale.

  • Mellie Antley

    just watch the bbc, no drama, no lies, no anchors trying to make a name for themselves!!!

  • It’s all Obama’s fault!

  • Peter

    People just accept the fact that any news station with political agendas, or even anything with a political agenda will be lying to you. Stop sticking up for fox stop sticking up for MSNBC and start watching CNN more thanks!

  • David Krutsinger

    forward progressives, that should answer your question right there.

    • giankeys luvs shemale porn

      regressive ‘ conservatives”……………….conserving WHAT exactly??

  • red7eric

    I’m a tree-hugging, bleeding-heart, peacenik hippie liberal, and proud of it. And no, the Fox News numbers are not in the least surprising to me. But honestly, the numbers for the “liberal network” (MSNBC) and even the “supposedly bipartisan network” (CNN) are so terrible and awful that I can take no joy in the fact that Fox came in last. Neither side has any room to gloat here. The fact is that no matter what channel we turned to, we’re being lied to, all the time. And there’s no excuse. None.

  • Marvin Gardens

    Have they rated FSTV and AJ?

  • rossbro

    Always knew the entertainers on Fox were fullo’shit.

  • Only a liberal would be happy with the truth being told 60% of the time.

    • gian keysTOOEASY flat mom

      and,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, don’t 4get:
      regressive white trash republicans prefer 18%
      ( truthfully they don’t care but I wanted to add this for color)

      • I don’t trust any mainstream media. They are corporations afterall.

      • giankeys luvs shemale porn

        gotta watch them all anyway; they can give U topics which we can research independently
        oh— and: what EXACTLY are “conservatives’ conserving????

  • ExRadioGuy15

    Correct, Harvsbuddy…also: CNN tells the truth 60% of the time? Fox News, the Fascist GOP’s cable TV propaganda arm, tells the truth 18% of the time? I call shenanigans…it’s one-tenth of that for both (Fox: 1.8; CNN: 6)

  • Jon

    This stuff cracks me up. Both sides of these political propaganda machines are just as bad as the other and they stand on opposite sides of a line in the sand pointing fingers and shouting the same rhetoric at each other. It’s pathetic really and should insult the intelligence of anyone with half of a functioning brain. Anyone who believes anything these major news media networks tells them just because they said it was so deserves anything they get in return for their ignorance and gullibility. Look at all the information available and do your best to make an informed judgment if not a decision. No one has it right all of the time. Get over yourselves and quit with the mudslinging already. You are there to report. That is all.


      Jon nails it.


    I watch CSPAN. Political news you can trust. Alternative media rocks as well.

  • Josh

    What’s scary is that the “best” news source tells the truth 60% of the time. Really think about that

  • Anna Clare

    Politi”fact” tries to “fact” check opinions based on whether or not they align with liberal beliefs. The number that the BLS releases for unemployment is a statement of fact. Whether that number is a sign the economy is healthy or not is an OPINION and cannot be fact checked. “Bill Clinton bombed Iraq” is a statement of fact and can be assigned a value of “true” or “false”. “Jimmy Carter is responsible for the whole Gulf mess because he supported Iraq when they invaded Iran” is an opinion. It’s not true or false. It’s an interpretation of fact. You can say you disagree with an opinion, but that doesn’t make it a lie. I cannot believe how many idiots don’t know the difference and continue to spread this ignorance. Learn the difference.

  • Here’s a crazy notion: TV “news” networks should strive really hard to be factually correct 100 percent of the time. It’s a very difficult goal to accomplish (breaking news stories are often confused on details, particularly at first) but that’s no reason not to try. And when it comes to opinion, let’s just agree that if someone has a track record of lying or being completely wrong about stuff, they’re not allowed on the teevee anymore. So simple.

  • Also, I wonder if Politifact has the guts to rate PBS. Let’s compare their honesty to the others. Would be very interested to see how they came out.

  • Jeanette Mills

    Can I have access to the comments in question? I would love to look at the study… I’m not very smart… can someone please tell me where in the article, the source is linked? Thank you in advance for making up for my ignorance.

  • April Morgan

    Interesting article and thanks for the citations. I have to say, however, that to compare lies, one has to consider how big or important or intentional the lie is. If we do that, we find that Fox “News” is the clear winner. MSNBC? Most of the falses look like they got their facts wrong but they don’t seem to be malicious. That cannot be said about Fox. Their lies are blatant and intentionally meant to deceive. There is a difference.

  • nick s

    Fox “NEWS?” is a joke. My parent watch that and then talk about things that make no sense. I’ve told them that Fox is no better than the Enquirer, now I feel bad disparaging the Enquirer!

    • DezzNutz

      What are you 19, wehn you leave theh room they shake theri head at their Sophomoric son. Sophomore translated means “Wise Fool”

      • nick s

        Sure, you clown. Some of us go visit our parents. Im 47 you idiot.

      • nick s

        Sorry you clown. Some of us go visit our parents. Im 47 so Eff U

  • nick s

    Josef Goebbels is the news director at Fox…That explains it all.

  • givehimabreak

    Fox “News” lies eighty per cent of the time……and bears shit in the woods.

  • Millennial teacher

    I’m a liberal and don’t trust Fox News at all, but this headline was misleading. Pundifacts only checks controversial statements, so it is expected that a larger percentage of them will be false for all news outlets. Let’s not sink to their level of manipulating data to spread misinformation.

  • gibbie

    quit watching cable news. it’s ruining you all.

  • BBK713

    Punditfact is being extraordinarily generous…

  • eddrone

    I understand that Fox’s 18% rating was mainly created by including the commercials!

  • Dan Booth

    Oh yea i bet this crap poll was done buy a Progressive outfit. I flip from one to another and anyone that thinks that MSNBC is more Truth full then Fox is smoking crack. Go ahead and stick your head back into the sand.

    • JoshuaMariguez197

      You lack any real reading skills don’t you MSNBC’s numbers aren’t anything to brag about and the fact checks were done over ALL programs.

  • MuchachoNL

    We don’t believe in your facts 😉

  • Pollster

    Started as an interesting article till it was clear this article itself is heavily biased. When reporting facts, leave out idealogical comments like “It’s how conspiracy theorists manipulate their sheep.” Comments like this call into question the entire article for fair-minded readers. No bias here. Not even a smidgen.

  • Ronald McVay

    That’s funny, this article isn’t telling the truth. Don’t bother calling me names. I won’t be back to this page.

  • Brian Elliott

    I find it concerning that you all are arguing over how much they lie versus the fact that they lie at all. We’ve entrusted these networks with informing us as to what is going on in the world, and instead we are being fed propaganda. To me, lying ONCE when you reach millions of dull witted citizens (I’m not saying EVERYONE’s dull witted, don’t get your panties in a bunch) who will believe anything you say is reprehensible. Hitler couldn’t have done a better job at propaganda.

  • Brian Phillips

    Funny a made up fact checking site found by one of the most untrue web sites

  • labman57

    It begins with their assertion of being “fair and balanced” and rapidly goes downhill from there.

  • Harold Patterson

    What rubbish. I feel my IQ diminished just by reading this article.

    • JoshuaMariguez197

      Why because you saw the truth GTFO right wing whack job

  • one of the false claims given for MSNBC came from Rudy Giuliani 😉 … oh Politifact … you are so special 😉 … we all know what a leftie Rudy is no?

  • big Dad

    Wow! Nothing new here… Anybody who watches Fox News and takes it as serious facts, is another right wing dumb down sheep! Lol! But, as is always predictable, the sheep will be here making comments en Mass accusing this article of being biased, liberal media, ETEC. we all know the mainstream media is slanted to the right from a global perspective versus an ethnocentric perspective.

  • DarkSoulsSauron

    I gave up on american news long ago. The Young Turks, Al Jezeera, and the BBC is how I gather news.

    • DezzNutz

      The YOung Turks? LMFAO, you might as well watch MSNBC, they report the same way on the same type of stories as MSNBC does

      • DarkSoulsSauron

        to be clear, i don’t normally watch the main TYT show. I go for the affiliates under the TYT umbrella, particularly Secular Talk

  • Renee Reinhardt

    Dang… pull the entertainment use of the word “news” and bar them from using it.

  • genekelly

    Take Morning Joe off MSNBC and stop bringing on the right-wing pundits…

  • licoricemedusa10

    This study didn’t cover lies by omission. MSNBC is very good at pointing at the finger at Republicans, but it glosses over and omits the actions and deeds by Democrats. In the past they have failed to report controversial issues that would financially harm its parent corporation. ALL corporate news is terrible, if you’re watching ANY of it you aren’t being informed.

  • Kato

    What else is new with FOX.

  • Redvandan

    Why should we trust your reporting on this?

  • Steve

    “True” “Half-true” “Mostly false”…. This isn’t some scientifically tested rubric. Saying that a news source is true 18% of the time or 30% of the time- those hard numbers mask a lot of subjectivity.

  • iupol

    There is no doubt about the fact that Fox News is a completely biased news network. That much is beyond contention and has been thoroughly established. However, using one website’s examination of on-air statements as a basis for analysis is called selection bias. You cannot establish the level of trustworthiness from PundiFact’s analysis of statements across the three cable news networks. Why? PundiFact did not use a random sample. They selected which statements to analyze without a methodology (which to be fair to them, is not their purpose anyway). The bottom line is that you would either need to analyze all statements or come up with a random sample to get an accurate, scientific picture. Cherry-picking data sets is not science.

  • faithandhonor

    Politifact is hardly a credible source. You just keep right on drinking the Kool-Aid, honey.

  • Gary

    Taking into consideration the fact that FOX News is the only cable news network that allows people with opposing views on their shows it is clear to see how the opinions of the left wing loons could easily be interjected in this poll, thus creating a very false and un-vetted B.S. poll! Of course, the fact that FOX News programs are watched daily by at least three times more viewers than any of the competing networks is not mentioned.

    • gian keysTOOEASY flat mom

      that’s because the white trash regressive scumbags wont go on MSNBC as they will get castrated with facts and truths which will make them look as lame O as they truly are: following the same same same rightwing playbook…… saying the same stuff as all the regressive crybabies on the far right recite

    • giankeys luvs shemale porn

      wow— “numbers”!!!
      FOX “news” is watched by many more than other shows
      McDonalds is eaten at by many many more than all others

  • Amy Garbati

    Let;s face it. Most of us drink the Kool Aid, it’s just a matter of whether we drink the blue Kool Aid or the red.

  • Jerz

    Interesting. I’m left wondering why not one example was cited. That might have helped me understand the difference of “mostly false” and “pants on fire”. If all these numbers are even close to accurate, why are we watching any of them? Could it be most of us just want our own opinions validated, rather than hearing the truth?

  • PM Toner

    politifact is bullshit- they need to get over themselves and admit their hatchet job on Rachel maddow is yellow journalism ]

  • doll

    How true about Fox News!

  • Rich Digiammo

    I’d rather take 18% of cutting edge news that effects the lives of most Americans than 60% of censored news that is directed to a select few.

  • SandyTodd

    The thing is, Politifact believes a lot of centrist memes are true that later turn out to be lies. For instance, I’m sure they would have called Phil Donahue a liar in the lead-up to the Iraq War, but he was right. They say the bank crisis was from poor people who couldn’t pay their mortgages, a lie. I’m sure that’s part of the problem for liberal news shows too, although sometimes the liberal take on a story isn’t 100% true. It’s usually not a flat out lie though.

  • ke hig

    HA HA yeah and the Easter bunny is real. A ultra liberal reporting of FACTS LOL how ironic since liberals ignore most facts put in front of them.

    • giankeys luvs shemale porn

      facts such as Obama is born in Kenya? or hes a muslim? or a radical Christian? or hes adding to our deficit? or his economy is getting worse? or republicans care about SPENDING????
      did u get your FOX “news” free Benghazi T shirt yet?

  • It’s George Bush’s fault!

  • Doug Belt

    “Punditfact, a branch of Politifact” That says it for me – Politifact is the liar’s club of Politics

  • Paul

    The problem is, it appears as though the 18% by Fox is about 18% more often than Obama when he’s talking to us.

    • giankeys luvs shemale porn

      can SOMEONE change poor pauls soiled diapers? hes crying again

  • Paul

    The problem is, that’s about 18% more than Pres. Obama when he’s speaking to us.

  • Monica Marlowe

    So, where’s the break down on the liberal media? You cannot expect us to believe that they are all 100% on the up and up as well. The fact that they aren’t even included in this examination is telling in itself.

  • Paul

    The problem is, that’s about 18% more often than Pres. Obama when he’s talking to us.

    • giankeys luvs shemale porn

      shall we ask u white trash regressives where O where U were when GW and cheney were destroying America…and THOSE “truths”??

  • doom

    PunditFact is a project of the Tampa Bay Times and the Poynter
    Institute two of the bigest LEFT wing idelogs in the country/

  • Davis Gloff

    Somehow, (for me at least,) it’s not enough if someone tells me that they may lie, but at least they lie less than someone else. I need to trust my sources, and this says that’s not possible, right OR left.
    To say “I don’t lie much” is less than satisfying.
    I guess I’ll have to continue doing my own fact checking.

  • Paul

    I was simply commenting on the truth remark. Are you saying I can keep my plan period? Are you saying I can keep my Dr. period? Are you saying I did save $2,500? Are you saying it was a reaction to a video, not a terrorist attack? Are you saying there were repercussions if Syria crossed his red line? Are you saying Mr. Obama’s not into photo ops? As he did a photo op in a Denver bar. Are you saying there isn’t a smidgen of corruption at the IRS? Although technically that one wasn’t a lie. There appears to be much more than a smidgen. Are you saying the border is secure? (I live in the Rio Grande Valley) Just asking.

  • Paul

    I’m not crying. And I’ll change my own diaper thank you.

  • Marc Chatow

    FOX SPEWS! ….Endless shallow rhetoric & lies, sorry, not falling for it!

  • Adam Franklin Wakefield

    Unfortunately what evidence do they have, from what shows. Did they count lies during sarcastic moments, and are the truths selected for the other media outlets when they give the time and date. Does this website consider getting the weather wrong, so if they do know show examples on what they polled this statistic is invalid. Bring proof I will believe but when a left group calls conservatives liars, I do not flinch.

  • Miguel DeLeon

    No surprise there. But a chance for me to encourage all readers to give up on US news and go instead to BBC news (and NPR).

  • Jean Smith

    I question their methodology and command of English.

  • gordonsoderberg

    The other 18 % is sport and weather, just saying

  • J.R. Schaaf

    The take away from this is that they are all full of shit, but some are shittier than others.
    Curious to know if AJA was included in this ‘study’ and how it rated, or, if not, why it was not included.

  • David Rice

    The survey did not surprise me, and I’m not liberal.

  • bankruptfromobamacare

    Great article for the low info voter crowd, who don’t understand the difference between a newscast and an opinion show where pundits give their opinions. Show me something that Fox NEWS shows state as fact that is not true, and you might have something.

    • Sly Cotto

      No one is more “low info” than Faux News viewers.

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  • Sharky McWrath

    If everybody would stop watching tv around the clock these problems would go away.

  • JonesRobynj

    Interesting article. We’ve all known that Fox lies about everything to fulfill the appetites of their base that they have spent so much time growing. As for me, I always like to check the facts when I think I should but of course it the subject has come up another time, I’ve already checked the facts and I check for facts from several different sources. Dependability of the sources can’t always be verified either. So to me it’s pretty much up for grabs. I also listen very intensely to what Congress members say in interviews which probably gives me more of my facts than the cable networks do anyway. I love to watch C-SPAN to see for myself exactly what is going happening on the floor of Congress. Being a witness is better than getting news second hand.

  • jan375

    Sending this to my Fox News loving conservative friend. Unfortunately, he will deny it.

  • Mike Lindsay

    TENS OF MILLIONS?? you think “tens of millions” of people are loyal to the sleazy fox channel? That statement alone pretty much destroys all your credibility and I really wish you hadn’t said that.

  • Scott Jamieson

    18%? Sounds high.

  • Bellagiodude

    This is all okay…. Our government only reports the truth 18% of the time too. They still have followers as stupid as they are.

  • duh

    Unfortunately a “fairly large sampling of 83” is not a fairly large sampling at all. I’d love to see a study done with a much larger sample size. That being said, Fox News is awful.

  • Bruce Heerssen

    I do think Fox News is a Republican propaganda machine, but 83 statements is not a representative sample. Punditfact needs to step up their game. Take various shows and fact check each and every statement in each and every episode of them. Or at least a large sample.

    • aspromised

      See my post above. It’s the innuendos and choice of words that are more powerful.

  • Cynthia Gurin

    No surprise about Fox, appalled by MSNBC, not that amused with CNN (whatever happened to reporting actual facts, folks?), and excuse me, why don’t we see Al Jazeera’s numbers reported in there?

    • aspromised

      Not pleased with MSNBC either, would love some examples.

  • aspromised

    To the scoffers of the source: FACTS don’t have a L-R bias.

    Anyway, far worse than the content is the innuendos, the inane open questions that plant a seed, the misleading graphs, or the “just sayin” crap. THAT is what is non-stop on Fox. You’ll notice it much more if you only listen and not watch.

  • tomdfw1

    This is complete BS; why don’t they SHOW FACTS. What exactly are they “checking”!? They are taking totally subjective comments that are built on rhetoric and categorizing them as lies. This study is complete BS!

  • JediMaster

    So this article is saying that “Hard Ball with Chris Mathews”, “All In with Chris Hayes”, “The Rachel Maddow Show” and “The Ed Show” are lying over 60% of the time? Amazing how this sight doesn’t share what exactly they are measuring. Plus, unlike Fox News, MSNBC has actually right-wing representatives spew their right-wing lies in order to “allow the other side to have a voice”; so based on that FACT don’t count “Morning Joe” (which has a Republican as a co-host) and any segment with a right-wing guest as “the other view point” as “comments” made by MSNBC. In no way is this article reliable and non-bias as seen by the hiding of WHAT comments are being measured as ‘true’ or ‘false’.
    CNN has been known to provided a “false balance” where they try to show “the other side” when some topics don’t have another side, just the TRUTH. Look to 60-Minutes coverage of Bengazi, that is an example of “false balance” that CNN does.

  • Gilpie

    I posted here last week and I guess the sensors didn’t like it. Let’s see if they let this post stand.

  • Defins

    So you have an ultra-left leaning organization judging news? Priceless.

    • Republicannt

      Wow a conservative saying EXACTLY what the article said a conservative would say. Way to be a Fox News parrot.

  • Chandra M. Jordan

    Tell me something I don’t know Captain Obvious

  • Steve Casselman

    Totally weird. Rick Santorum is pants on fire but it counts against NBC (not MSNBC) So this is a big BS flag. A very bad article (of course I believe all the bad stuff about Fox because they are bad)

  • ozoozol

    This would be better if it didn’t come from Politifact, unfortunately. They’re not exactly the most trustworthy factchecker out there.

  • longa

    They all lie. The truth is what you see on the street. Today’s government is at war with American Businesses big and small. Ask the millions and millions of people on government assistance. How many people do you know who gave up looking for work. How many people do you know leaving states like California because there is no more quality jobs and its just too expensive to operate in a state that seems to hate American citizens?

  • Sydney

    How many half-truths, falsities, and lies do CNN & MSNBC tell? It’s funny how liberals thinks that Fox News is the only evil political machine out there. How about not making arguments liberal vs conservative and focusing on the fact that the majority of media tells you what you want to hear based on your political preference? That makes more sense. Educate yourself and stop relying on big news to tell you the difference between your ass and a hole in the ground….

  • Daddycool67

    MSNBC tells the whole world in their slogan and in their advertisements that they lean progressive.
    That’s being pretty honest if you ask me.
    It gives the viewer a heads up and lets them choose to change the channel.
    MSNBC doesn’t pretend to be neutral.

    Fox on the other hand calls themselves fair and balanced every 5 minutes.
    Most of their stories begin with the phrase “Some people say.” Fox honestly believes that after saying that phrase … they are then free to repeat whatever “some people say” because “some OTHER people said it.” Not them.
    They try to convince their viewers that they are their only friend in the world that can be trusted. And that EVERYBODY ELSE is conspiring to lie to them.
    That’s about as dishonest as it gets.

  • Steve

    Interesting. Not one shred of evidence of the “lies” Fox reports, and no analogy of the “truths” MSNBC reports. This site did nothing but tear down conservatives and referred to character assassination as their argument instead of the facts laid out for us to evaluate for ourselves. How phony. Just another liberal push. Oh, but we are dismissed because they already said “Though I’m sure any conservative who might run across this article, or the Punditfact profiles, would simply dismiss the results as “liberally biased lies.” You know, because anything that’s not approved by Fox News or some other right-wing media source is clearly “liberally biased propaganda.”

  • Tony Del Boccio

    This is why America is going to hell. It has nothing to do with ensuring that you’re doing the right thing. It’s all about not being as bad as the next guy. We are just racing to the bottom as fast as we can.

    Because of this, accountability means nothing. Everyone else should be accountable except for me. I deserve and exception because of *insert bullshit argument*.

  • hoser4

    And that’s on a “good” day.

  • jfs1929

    I would like to know what the “lies” or misstatements are that FOX has used as well as all of the truths CNN & MSNBC have talked about. I think they should point out (and maybe they do) the specific questions, statements and lies or non-truths to those questions or statements. Another poll showed Rush Limbaugh was wrong about 34% of the time, which meant he was right 66% of the time. I know FOX is much more conservative than liberal (although O’reilly does have liberal guests) and CNN & MSNBC are very liberal with rarely a conservative on the show. I think I would rather watch FOX because the ladies on there are MUCH better looking than on the other networks.

  • col nurrutia

    I’d like to see which @msnbc comments were false. They have Joe Scarborough, guests Nicole Wallace, Michael Steele, there was Chuck Todd, they also re-transmit Meet the Press. So: Which shows, which subjects, which anchors? Would also like to see CNN facts and figures.

  • Sheryl Cooper

    this ongoing conversation is about as obnoxious as Fox is. Get a grip, people. There’s more important stuff out there.

  • chrissy9848

    Morning Joe is People giving their opinions..Kornacki , Hayes , Maddow..that’s investigative reporting right there ..If they make a mistake or misquote or state wrong numbers , they make a correction immediately , You cannot compare them to fox ..who purposely repeat the same lies over and over .Will never correct or apologize ….CNN has been in trouble reporting before fact checking more than once ! I would like to know who they were fact checking on MSNBC

  • Cliff Herring

    The real problem here is that there IS no real journalistic integrity,anymore. It seemed to die with Walter Cronkite and David Brinkley. When Clinton signed the Telecom Deregulation Act of ’96, it enabled the cons to buy up all those radio stations across the nation; hence Rush on 600 of them. The cons have NEVER trusted the so called liberal media,as ir was that media that brought down Nixon. The media largely told the truth,cuz there were standards in place. If you told a big fat lie about a politician or celebrity,you could get sued for slander. Well,no need to worry about that,since the Supremes ruled in Fox’s favor. They say a story doesn’t HAVE to be true,since Fox has freedom of speech. Well,then you can’t call it news…it’s propaganda! All of the networks have sold out. There’s no more hard hitting,investigative journalism,like 60Minutes was in its heydey..it loses too much money to do that. Instead,we have a daily diet of “info-tainment”.

  • Goldenarm9

    Who fact check’s the fact check sites ?

  • I can’t stand Fox News, but I’m not a fan of liberals either. So I decided to check out the link and see what they found to be false.

    One of the statements they found false was, “Over the last 40 years, real wage growth has been flatlined because of the policies of the Federal Reserve … It was all driven by the Federal Reserve.”

    The problem is that the statement is true, but the majority of economists are philosophically opposed to the idea because they believe fervently in currency manipulation, despite all the evidence to the contrary showing that it is counterproductive in the long run.

    So essentially Punditfact finds the statement on Fox (made by Herman Cain, with whom I so often disagree) to be false because it violates the philosophical opinions of a majority of economists, many of whom make a good living from manipulating the money supply.

  • timber guy

    Would AC please show some evidence??? I’m guessing he missed a lot, to say the least. We know who repeats the left talking points over & over, but miss major issues like Benghazi, Obamacare, ad in·fi·ni·tum…… I know, you can’t count them as errors if they didn’t report!!!

  • David

    A liberal organization fact checks and it’s published on a liberal web site, how is that fair and balanced? Why don’t they write a story about all the lies the president tells? Lies about keeping your health care plan, lies about keeping your doctor, lies about the IRS scandal, lies about Fast and Furious, lies about Benghazi, lies about the Bowe Bergdahl swap for five terrorists. I guess these liberals tell so many lies they wouldn’t know where to begin.

  • shutterbunny

    The article forgot something very important. It didn’t back up any of the claims with examples. I see the people responding are accepting it anyway.

  • NFarrin

    And it’s been the most watched network for how many years in a row now? Obviously it must be because so many people watch to try to catch false statements? R-I-G-H-T!!! Lol.

  • danl

    “[c]omprised of?” Never. You mean “composed of.” Your writing is poor to atrocious throughout. I’m entirely sympathetic to what you’re trying to say, but you need to go back to school and learn to write like an adult if you expect ever to be taken seriously outside of preaching to your particular choir.

  • Hal von Luebbert

    Am I surprised that not one example is given? How are we to determine what was a lie…?

    • James Sweitzer

      its another example of infantile partisan reasoning.

  • jawja777

    I don’t believe this for a moment. If this was true Fox News wouldn’t have more viewers than the other news channels combined. The reason they do is because they can trust it to hear news not propaganda. That is why they have liberals, conservatives and moderates debating the issues. Other “news” sources don’t offer that. They also don’t alter videos to support their side.

  • James Sweitzer

    “Anyone with even a shred of common sense …” Wow, that is some class A, bang up journalism right there. I tell you, that overwhelmingly indicates that the rest of the story is going to be an objective outlook on the subject……….

  • Hal von Luebbert

    Just for everyone’s information, I began several years ago (ten, in a general sense, six in the sense of intensity – I decided to write a book), I did a detailed, statistical and scientific study of the media. I was alive and an adult at the time of C.I.A. Operation MOCKINGBIRD’s birthing, and the result of having been aware first hand that the U.S. Government intended to co-opt and control the opinions and mentality of the public became, then, an intensive student of both propaganda and its history which has lasted most of my life. More, I travelled the nation for nearly ten years upon retirement, conducting surveys and interviews aimed at assessing and determining the effectiveness and effect of government propaganda. Space is too limited for discussion of a study as detailed, intensive, and thorough as mine, but I can report this: liberalism and the massive effect it has had upon the attitudes of the society and nation since World War Two are due mostly to the dictum of Nazi Propaganda minister Josef Goebbels, a dictum that said scientific lying could result in those in heaven believing they were in hell and those in hell believing they were in heaven. Frank G. Wisner, then Director of Operations for the CIA and creator of what was then known as “Radio Free Europe” (he called it the “Mighty Wurlitzer”). once told me personally that with enough and the right kind of electronic media and press, he could “orchestrate” (his favorite word, I think) in a nation any state of mind he chose. Depending (of course) upon definition, the liberal media lie almost six times as often as their political and ideological opposites. “Lie,” in fact, is to the liberal no longer a description of falsehood; it is merely an epithet like “racist,” “sexist,” and the now myriad like. It is a personal attack – not a statement of fact. I might point out, also, that I am completely apolitical: I do not vote, I do not pay taxes, and I in no way support ANY government – considering as I do the whole “orchestration” we now believe to be a political process to be the archetypical example of a lie. It can be proved in any reasonable and rational forum that the U.S. underwent quickly after World War Two a silent coup d’état by the military industrial complex. The C.I.A. was its architect, and no other theory of U.S. history describes so accurately the course of the nation since creation of the C.I.A. by the coup plotters . Sorry (and I couldn’t be more sincere about that), but the political propaganda “orchestration” that is the Left is a lie, and its adherents are liars. The believe it’s all for a greater good, and that he end they seek justifies their means.

  • Don’t taze me bro

    Well, for a liberal, one misstatement or misplaced verb constitutes a lie, regardless if the overall result is correct…

  • Giueseppe Spano

    Maddow will offer corrections on her show. Fox cannot do this.

  • Giueseppe Spano

    Some of the other blue links mostly false, or false assessments seem to be very subjective evaluations of subjective claims. Not saying that Pundit people are doing a bad job, but, evals are just that. Good for getting an overall sense of how bad the media is in general.

  • DatBus

    And anybody who thinks this “study” isn’t following a political bias for a political purpose is just part of the problem. Fox lies NO MORE than any other biased news stations who shape their stories for the targeted demographic. Neither the Left or the Right is telling the whole truth.

  • merlin186

    if fox is 18% then the liberal msm must be in the negative integers

    i wouldnt trust any site with the word progressive in it
    and id like some specifics as to what they were untruthful about

  • Queequeg

    If you look at the MSNBC statements, an enormous number of the lies come from conservative guests like Rick Santorum and Ralph Reed.

  • Bill Shrum

    Seriously WTF. Why isn’t it 100% truthful, and where is the outrage that “at our best, we only lie to you 18% of the time”? Ethics and editorial oversight are a thing of the past?

  • Guest

    This “study” is based on the OPINION of the person conducting the study. WTF does “mostly true” mean anyhow? A statement is either true or it is false. In liberal crazy-land, a lie is defined as having a different opinion than the majority of liberals. When a liberal says something which is not true, it’s called a mis-speak. When a conservative maeks a factual error, it is automatically a lie.

  • Sto P Fakin

    what liberal gang took this poll????????

  • Sto P Fakin

    jus because savage says it …DONT MAKE IT GOSPLE

  • Daria Dykes

    The people who did the “fact-checking” are less than correct about some things, it appears. At least one that I immediately spotted and can attest to. They call out George Will for claiming that some doctors say that ebola can be transmitted through the air by a cough or sneeze. They say that’s false. It is in fact “mostly true.” The only with Will’s statement is that most people, including George Will, don’t understand the difference between “transmitted through air” and “transmitted by air-borne droplets.” Ebola is in the second variety and yes, you can be exposed if an infected person sneezes or coughs very close to you. The specialists have been trying to tell people that, but people like these fact-checkers keep drowning them out with their own, non-medical-specialist version.

  • Daria Dykes

    Oh, and the numbers for Fox News don’t add up correctly. If you click on the link, you find that 22% of their facts were either true or mostly true – there’s not even a way to make an 18 out of their scores.

  • lelandpc

    Anybody fact check Punditfact?

  • Stay Loose

    Politifact and Punditfact have very questionable judgment. I frequently disagree with their assessments of what is factual or not. And some items are slip of the tongue, like Al Sharpton saying debt instead of deficit. What was the rest of the story? Same with Rachel Maddow. Her segments are well researched. If she is incorrect it is a lapse, either due to what information was available at the time or a source getting it incorrect. She doesn’t make stuff up like Fox and CNN. And this analysis includes right wing guests on MSNBC like Rick Santorum and Ralph Reed and Rudy Guiliani. Doesn’t this skew the data?

  • James Fahnestock

    What a load of shit! MSNBC is so disingenuous and that is why their ratings are in the toilet with the sewer pickles.

  • Cliff Webb

    Newscorp is owned by Australian Jew Rupert Murdoch, stunning that anyone would be surprised they lie to America all the time..and Fox is all zionist propaganda… Jeez, there was a move made about them ‘Outfoxed’ during Kerry’s run at the WH…this is not new information, just information that never reaches their audience…

  • Alex

    Just read Reuters, don’t listen to the talking heads! Bahahaha. But seriously, I read most of news through the Associated Press, and while I haven’t gone to investigate the links yet, I won’t be surprised to find that they also tell lies. I feel like that’s all the NEWS has ever been. Subjective reports of things happening around people. Even reporters who try to keep it objective, undo themselves on air, with body language and the way they talk about a subject sometimes. So I just read the news instead. Lol

  • sttngduck

    “Essentially well over half of what Punditfact has fact-checked on Fox News has been a lie and only 18 percent has been deemed factual.”
    – what was the other half?

  • sf_jeff

    Rachael Maddow has actually covered some of her “false” statements from politifact. It is entertaining to watch. First she shows footage of her “mistake”. Then she shows footage of the person she was talking about in which they are clearly doing what she said they were doing. Then she goes into politifact and deconstructs exactly what they said was wrong and whether it actually had to do with something true or not or whether it was more along the lines of “we don’t like this so we are rating false”.

  • jaxgrl1981

    Apparently liberal station tell more truth I’m guessing the site is done by liberals

  • StuManChew

    This article is a half truth. What you call the percentages for MSNBC are actually the percentages for NBC and MSNBC combined. How much worse would MSNBC be if the stats for NBC were taken out? Probably a lot since about 85% of their programming is opinion pieces.

  • Justin Borden

    How and when did it become acceptable for anything calling itself a “News” organization to be telling anything but the truth 100% of the time.

    Based on this information, all 3 networks should just pack up shop right now as far as I’m concerned. (Not that this is new, I’ve felt that way for a long time. These numbers just give my opinion more weight.)

    Report the actual news. Just the facts. When you get it wrong, you run a correction or a retraction. Anything else is just entertainment, not news.

    CNN, MSNBC and Fox are entertainment networks for political junkies, and not much else.

  • Jason Evans

    A stat of lies, brought to you by liars…LOL….Global warming…lol….ocommiecare…lol…..commie core…lol….you people are suckers for anything.

  • Tommy Tange

    Still beats ABC,NBC,CBS,CNN, and MSNBC, as they also EDIT stuff to sway opinion’s. To be totally honest none of them tell the damn truth, no one does any more the President, Holder, IRS, and every damn politician in office, lying is the norm any more by all of them…….Presidents of ABC and CBS News Have Siblings Working at White House . David Rhoades, the current president of CBS News, is the brother of Ben Rhoades, a White House national security advisor. If Ben’s name sounds familiar, that is likely due to his reported role in the editing of the now infamous Benghazi talking points.
    Claire Shipman, a senior national correspondent at ABC News, is married to no other than Jay Carney, the White House Press Secretary.
    If those ties between the Obama White House and ABC News aren’t disturbing enough, the president of ABC News, Ben Sherwood, is brother to Dr. Elizabeth Sherwood-Randall, a special advisor to Barack Obama.
    Virginia Moseley is a CNN Vice President and Washington Bureau Chief married to Tom Nides, a Deputy Secretary of State under Barack Obama…..

  • Tommy Tange

    Look who is posting this story lmao that should tell every one all they need to know

  • Tommy Tange

    Still beats ABC,NBC,CBS,CNN, and MSNBC, as they also EDIT stuff to sway opinion’s. To be totally honest none of them tell the damn truth, no one does any more the President, Holder, IRS, and every damn politician in office, lying is the norm any more by all of them……. Presidents of ABC and CBS News Have Siblings Working at White House .
    David Rhoades, the current president of CBS News, is the brother of Ben Rhoades, a White House national security advisor. If Ben’s name sounds familiar, that is likely due to his reported role in the editing of the now infamous Benghazi talking points.
    Claire Shipman, a senior national correspondent at ABC News, is married to no other than Jay Carney, the White House Press Secretary.
    If those ties between the Obama White House and ABC News aren’t disturbing enough, the president of ABC News, Ben Sherwood, is brother to Dr. Elizabeth Sherwood-Randall, a special advisor to Barack Obama.
    Virginia Moseley is a CNN Vice President and Washington Bureau Chief married to Tom Nides, a Deputy Secretary of State under Barack Obama

  • TruthConquers100

    Wow, this must be a satire piece or comical piece of some sort. For one source Pundifact to claim one as better than another is hilarious. That CNN or MSNBC to be 60 or 48 percent true (and perhaps the source is sponsored by them) and point out Fox News is 60% false really has no scale to measure right or wrong. This is silliness.

    • Feed Pumps

      I’d also like to see the data used…..

  • David

    “It’s how conspiracy theorists manipulate their sheep” – no, it’s how cults work.

  • Dana

    Probably why DISH ultimately dropped them…smh!!

  • beierly

    I’m sorry, but your prejudices are showing. There is no such thing as legitimate news over any broadcast or cable networks – NONE!!
    There is not an ounce of legitimacy from either MSNBC or FoxNews. Both are disgusting frauds as far as “News”. I will only say that FoxNews is generally civil in their presentation (I didn’t say polite, candid or honest), MSNBC is generally vicious in attacking and insulting others. CNN& HLN are no better though less political. As for the main “Network News”, the Big Three should go back to Journalism 101.
    Rachel Maddow, Lawrence O’Donnell and Bill O’Reilley are the most offensive & disgusting people in broadcasting (next to The View).
    If you really want news, catch the local stations, BBC or DW-World. Otherwise, stick to print media.

  • aberdeem

    And we should believe them WHY??????????????

  • MikeOx

    LOL, where is the article that says most Americans support Obama’s policies ? What a joke , fact checking site , ha ha.

  • Joe Reaves

    Ive always looked at MSNBC as the liberal version of Fox. I attribute better reading comprehension among the staff to their accidentally higher truth score.

  • Gray Panther


  • BrendtWayneWaters

    Anna Kooiman: “There would be tens of thousands of jobs created” if President Barack Obama approved the Keystone XL pipeline.

    To rate this statement as “mostly false” (as Politifact does) because “99% [of the jobs] are temporary” is perhaps the most out-of-touch thing since Bush 41 marveled at grocery check-out scanners. In this economy, a job is a job. Job security is an illusion for people who believe in the Easter Bunny. Better to go into a job knowing it’s temporary than to be uncermoniously kicked to the curb after 20+ years.

    Anyone who lives in a make-believe world (like Politifact does) needs to get out of the fact-checking business. And anyone who uses their “facts” for their own articles needs to have their computers taken away. Here’s a nice piece of string to play with, Forward Progressives.

  • Andrew Thompson

    So, it’s nice to see an article that attempts to defend a ‘progessive’ organization like MSNBC, and MSNBC lies 69%. Well, hopefully this should enlighten both sides to turn off the TV and discover facts on their own.

  • radical

    We probably don’t have 18 trillion in debt either.

  • Avi

    So Fox News is bullshit?! What am I gonna do!?

  • Sharon

    This is false information! Fact check the fact checker!

  • Sharon

    The fact that, as the Lichter study shows, “A majority of Democratic statements (54 percent) were rated as mostly or entirely true, compared to only 18 percent of Republican statements,” probably has more to do with how the statements were picked and the subjective bias of the fact checker involved than anything remotely empirical. Likewise, the fact that “a majority of Republican statements (52 percent) were rated as mostly or entirely false, compared to only 24 percent of Democratic statements” probably has more to do with spinning stories than it does with evaluating statements.

  • Sharon

    The “study” from PunditFact (a subdivision of PolitiFact), which is not really a study, says no such thing. You do not have to rely on my word for that: PunditFact itself warns against using its figures “to draw broad conclusions,” e.g. that Fox News lies “like all the time.” (Like, is this like a 1980s Valley-girl movie, or are you just, like, functionally illiterate?) That is because the study is an exercise in drawing nonsensical conclusions from arbitrary data.

  • Thomas Chapman Wing

    I’m curious to know what the definitions of “Pants on Fire” vs “False” are. Is it degree of wrongness, perceived intention, size of the statement, or what?

  • Bill Knowles

    All three blue links don’t work for me. Tried each 5 times. All I get is a blank page. There is no reference to the study itself and searches (about ten minutes each) on Politifact and Punditfact come up dead ends. While I have little doubt Fox news is no angel I get concerned when claims are made that I cannot look at a source. Based on the posts I can feel safe that the links do, or did, work. I wonder why they are gone. Maybe they know that I lean right and block me (ha ha). Anyway, I did see a piece a while back with good links. At the time the article was tossing out entire shows if one statement uttered was incorrect. The impression given far over-reached any sense of reason in context. For instance, a false statement quoted to illustrate it as wrong would put the show in the “LIAR!” column. So if you all are comfy making the conspiracy theory correlation understand that it works both ways. You’re liking what you see here and that’s good enough.
    Of course, Mr. Clifton COULD source his piece.

  • torontosparky

    Obviously this article is liberally biased propaganda. 😉

    • Feed Pumps

      An assumption based on what? can you argue the topic instead of attacking the messenger?

  • Chuck

    Oh sure, because Punditfact is objective. They rated one of Bill O’Reilly’s reports as “having some truth to it but being mostly false” because it relied on police-involved shooting statistics provided by the CDC and the Department of Justice. Pundifact speculated that the figures might not be complete because there is not a requirement that all such incidents be reported in the same manner. They offered no facts or statistics to support their assertion, just speculation based on the fact that they disagreed with the statistics. Instead, they chose to believe the media driven narrative that cops are out there shooting black men at “an alarming rate.”

    Sorry, but as far as I’m concerned the opinions Punditfact pushes as facts are no more proof than are any of the other “facts” (opinions) put out by the rest of the media.

  • jimhale

    Of course, this site itself is even more left-leaning than MSNBC.

    • Feed Pumps

      argue by attacking the messenger… “Of coarse,” leans to a generally perceived truthiness; repetition of a lie, or half truth, has been the main strategic model of operations with fox, rush, et al. An assumption specific to an ideal become a truth in time. Of coarse, manipulating truth becomes falsehood.

  • Rita D’Alvarez

    Any stats on Al Jezeera? BBC?

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  • Xhp Kayne

    its hilarious how skewed this article is from the very first sentence.

  • Eric Wang

    Why only sample 83 statements instead of an even 100? Seems fishy to me… Maybe it’s because 8+3=11. Let’s see, what else you can add up to equal 11? 9+1+1! 9/11! Makes you think!

  • Patrick Parrish

    Wow, they rigged this article pretty well. If you question the veracity of it, you are feeding into the “conservative conspiracy.” That’s pretty cool. Just throw a disclosure in your article that anyone questioning its content is a right wing lunatic, and you get automatic, bulletproof, veracity. Sounds right out of Saul Alinsky’s playbook.

  • Matt Filla

    First of all anyone with a brain can clearly see that Fox News ratings trump Msnbc … forward progressives? wow really what a bunch of dumb idols!!!! for example on how you’re being used as a tool,,, to the right on “popular tags”they bolded the word stupidity in the middle of what they want you to think is stupid… if fact check.ORG is all you need to be convinced of something in particular you’re fucking retards!!!! intelligence of insect’s..

  • Matt Filla

    I believe anyone who listens to Rachel Maddow needs to be mentally evaluated….

  • Jim Harrell

    My favorite Fox News manufactured news story (lie) was from 2009, when Megyn Kelly reported that one of the earmarks in Obama’s stimulus bill, was money for a high speed rail line to run from Disneyland to the Moonlight Bunny Ranch brothel in northern Nevada. And Kelly wasn’t kidding! How do I know, because she said so. KELLY – “It’s a super railroad, of sorts – a line that will deliver customers straight from Disney, we kid you not, to the doorstep of the Moonlight Bunny Ranch brothel in Nevada”. Megyn didn’t mention if this “super train” would stop at other brothels along the way. Maybe Fox News is just “kidding” most of the time.

  • Combat Override

    How did politifact decide which comments to evaluate?

  • Combat Override

    “In 2012, 123 African-Americans were shot dead by police. … Same year, 326 whites were killed by police.”

    This was an example of a “mostly false” statement. But the statement was based on the best and only data available by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. It maybe that the way the govt collects data is flawed or incomplete but it is the only officially recognized data. Any other opinion to the contrary is simply an opinion because nobody know for certain.

    O’Reilly is on 5 nights a week for an hour each night. This evaluation pulls this one comment from him out of an unknown period of time and number of comments. If this is the best they can come up with as an example of Fox not telling the truth, it seems to me the entire claim of Fox being wrong 60% of the time is specious at best. I’d probably come to the same conclusion about any network.

  • Jennifer

    Yet you offer no proof. In other words, it’s your opinion based on what you’ve already been fed by your elementary history books that are so accurate.

  • mrpck3

    Ever wonder how everybody pukes on Fox, but know exactly what Fox is saying. That’s because all the bitchers are watch Fox and then complain about them. Fox gets it right more than anybody. Wake up and smell the roses.

  • Frank C.

    I’m shocked that FAUX NOISE was truthful even 18% of the time! Seems high to me!

  • John h

    to Sandy and everyone else THEY ALL DO IT TO BOOST THIER RATINGS,, so those that haven’t figured that they are the supermarket tabloids ,,,,,, today Fox News AND MSNBC reported that Chicken Little said the sky is falling

  • blloyd

    as always no specific examples by the left wing media to back up their bull.shit only fake numbers thrown around by other liberals…….cnn and msnbc dont even cover some issues for fear of looking like obama or clinton haters

  • morn1960

    and why would anyone watch the garbage murdock produces? low iq’s and gullibility

  • Lenny Dudley

    When the fox News babes start wearing tampons for earrings..like MSNBC…get back to me

  • punkfergal

    Fox news tells the truth 18 percent of the time, but their viewers use less than 3% of their brains – so, in actuality, fox really isn’t lying that much.

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  • Harry Veras

    Ok like saying the mitt was Going to win big . End of story

  • Amanda Akny

    It’s fairly clear that the vast majority of people find Fox News more credible than MSNBC. A free press doesn’t root for one party. Fox presents both sides of the issue but sadly it has reached the point where if any news Chanel isn’t all in for the Progressive Democrats and kissing their asses all the time then these other wayward “news” agencies and their few fans consider Fox biased in favor of Republicans. It’s quite pitiful. When people see this, so blatantly, as is evident on pretty much every news Chanel except Fox, they’re turned off by it. So they turn it off or turn the chanel. It isn’t rocket science. It’s why MSNBC has like 200 viewers and Fox has millions.

  • A lot of the comments taken as “news” were actually from shows (on all channels linked) which can lead to some slanting of the data and confuses opinions with objective facts.

  • Bonnie McCollett

    haha liberals lying again, I read the AP report, you know the AP right? Seems they had all sorts of things to say, but somehow it doesn’t jive with what you say, am i shocked, nope.

  • Dirk Voorhees


  • Shirley Capes

    The factchecker needs to check her facts, she is sadly mistaken,
    Poor women 18%!’is what she came up with,check,it again,

  • Kile

    I clicked on the link that takes you to the statements they “fact checked”. Most were either the opinion of guests, usually politicians, or were actually true but went again left wing dogma so they labeled them false. This entire study is BS.

  • Georgia123

    OF course one would find this is from a progressive….so far to the left that one mis step and off he goes. Who believes what is posted here. I listen to news from a variety of sources….and Fox does good investigation, asks pertinent questions and of course is to the right, which I happen to like.
    You leftists wouldn’t know the truth if it hit you in the face!

  • Mike Mittleberger

    Isnt that owned by CNN

  • Johnny Teel

    Let’s see, one political hack writing a story using information from another hack and calling it true.

  • Michelle

    It’s disappointing, and really shows that there is no point in watching much of ANY of these new channels. But seriously, Fox news channel is like watching a circus. I am very worried our species is facing a severe loss of intelligence and common sense. Herd mentality, do what you are told, discourage independent thought. And TV – which allows us the opportunity to enrich our minds with relevant and stimulating content – has become a swampland of racial outrage, teenage sex, lies, and reality shows that are 100% fiction and showcase the most ignorant and annoying members of our species. Very sad.

  • Kat

    Politifact calls out FOX news for lies…now that is hysterical. ..liberal news shows such as MSNBC and CNN ratings are in the tank for one reason…Americans ar tired of the fluff Kardashian stories and cover up on Obama scandals…try actually reporting the news and maybe you will have more than a couple hundred viewers

  • Bruce Stark

    I guessing the fact checking they looked at was the sound bytes from the democrat party that fox ran in there reports instead of fact checking what fox was actually reporting. Truth be told i have checked things said on fox and wtop reporting and fox is usually correct

  • dan’l

    Guess that “18 percent” is much higher than the goof nut channel.

  • John Best

    Of course, this study was conducted by pMSNBC.

  • What bullshit. Liberal pundit spewing misinformation from a liberal fact checking site.

  • King Rat

    What’s truly surprising is that when faced with the overwhelming dominance of Fox news you still grasp at straws and proclaim failed socialist policies are preeminent in America. I suspect that your rats nests in the northeast raises such a stench in ‘fly over country’, they don’t believe a word you say. Oh and they do listen to Sowell, Williams, and are reading Milton Friedman.

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  • John Diaz

    This is how I see it. The media is working in favor of progressives. So if you at the term progressive it falls under. Communist Marxist socialist. Think about that.

  • Joy

    Punditfact is a very liberal site…They wouldn’t know a fact if it bit them on the backside!

  • Linda Lee

    This is false. Do not trust these fact checking orgs. especially the liberal ones. They DON’T EVER tell the truth

  • Dave Nance

    I wonder how much George Soros paid for this Bull Shit disinformation site.

  • Dave Nance

    If you are worried about facts verify them yourself. CNN is no way close to the 60 % they are claiming.

  • frankdavis

    Lets see, a left wing “fact check” organization with no credentials says Fox doesn’t tell the truth? Yeah right…. move along, nothing to see here.

  • christina

    I’m 38 years old and I only get my news from Fox…

  • Nolan Hodges

    Really people??? Really???

  • Ram6

    Why is this a story? There is not one fact cited. This is another typical example of a liberal/left wing organization trying to trash Fox News because they don’t adhere to the liberal line of the MSM. They when we write debunking them they have already dismissed us as just foolish conservatives who can’t see the (their) “truth”.

    Look who supposedly conducted the research and before you read the article you could guess the outcome. This whole thing is just silly.

  • quillerm

    What’s interesting about this propaganda about FOX News is they are broadcasting on hundreds of affiliates 24 hours a day 7 days a week, with a accuracy rate of 99.999999999% based on data broadcast vs., alleged incomplete reporting.

    How about the lies AP, MSNBC, Hufington Post, ABC, CBS, and the Presidents Point Man on Race told about the Ferguson Incident? They reported false information, suppressed truthful police reports on all the liberal networks 24/7 for weeks. It took weeks for the liberal networks to confirm Soros was funding mobs at Ferguson. They did the same during the Zimmerman case, NBC even edited a 911 call to make Zimmerman sound racist.. Where is the statistics on the other networks, no where to be found?

  • Thomas Cahill

    Go home Forward Progressive. You’re drunk.

  • Darius15

    This is so absurd, and so obviously self serving, I don’t even know where to begin. The article reports a figure, and then proceeds to defend against criticism using a meandering rhetoric. In other words, this is the figure, and any criticism of it proves you are a liar. With this rationality, one must wonder about their purported claims. Are they analyzing opinions offered in editorials by hosts. Are they analyzing the discussions between liberals and conservative guest hosted on a Fox show, Are they criticizing a panel discussion about the news. Or are they analyzing news reporting? If analyzing news reporting either the story occurred or it did not occur. In analyzing all the rest, a subjective assessment would be necessary. they are unclear as to the denominator, that is what shows they analyzed, but if they analyzed anything but news reporting, then this was a subjective analysis and unworthy of further discussion. If they analyzed only news reporting, then I highly doubt their figures are accurate as most news information correlates well with what is reported elsewhere including CNN, and other news sources. The major difference is in the selectivity of what is considered newsworthy, and the bias I see in other networks. Indeed, I could accuse other news outlets of being the mouthpiece of the Democratic party. I suspect this article is 82% nonsense, and 18% giggles.

  • Mark Reichman Sr

    thank god we have a total perfect man in al sharpton who always tells the truth.

  • Kenneth Harwood

    hey all are liers and theives they tell ppl what they want to hear oh this is so great then why is our country failing so fast because obama is the destroyer and he only has this and next year to finnish his mission destroying the us so other can walk in and take it with np

  • franco Eldorado

    That is 18% more than the others

  • of course, Pundifact is a left wing funded group with their own progressive agenda
    who’s supposed ‘facts’ can’t be trusted either.

  • Leviathan14

    More leftist BS…. Its never very simple…. But here is what I see with Foxnews… Fair, by far fairer than any other net work, perfeectly fair, of course not. Balanced, not so much the majority of host have a tilt, which is my tilt, but I am honesty…They do offer the leftist view more often than not… which the other networks barely do…. The sad part is the left thinks they have no tilt, which is their issue they cannot even recognize their own obvious bias. As far as truth goes…. if you count what liberal pundits say – sure they sprew a ton falsehoods. You do realize likely 50% or more of the cable news is spouting what comes from the services, AP, reuters, etc… so if its all false its coming right from the lefts mouths. Second, why is no one making hay with all they claim here they are saying is false…. lets see some examples? Also a large portion is video… not even proven modified or manipulated like NBC is known for, they have been caught 4 or 5 times now falsifying video…. SHOW ME, something some said as fact was in fact false and/or worse a lie. The fact Fox is right leaning and hands down more sucessful just eats at these lefty liars… they hate anyone that thinks different than they do and anyone with brains and facts that counter their proven failed socialist utopias……

  • Mary A Frazier King

    I don t believe these facts I think its phony

  • Mikey01h

    Liberals favorite trick…. Accusing the opposition of perpetrating the sins they themselves are guilty of…

  • Mark Munkres

    The problem is liberals think if they disagree with someone that means they are lying. The fact is that liberalism is by definition wrong, so when you spout it, you may not be intentionally lying but you are making false statements out of ignorance.

  • Marjorie Collins

    Oh, BALONEY that FOX news only tells the truth 18% of the time! “If a lie by the Liberal Media like this lie, to destroy the only good news network, is told often enough, the people will finally believe it!” That was one of the most effective tools of Hitler and his regime before and during WWII. The ones I’m most sickened by are the uninformed, lazy, self centered people in this country who aren’t paying attention to the destruction all around them, and worse, obviously could care less until it’s too late.

  • Kevin Tucker

    18% is better than CNN, MSNBC 0%

  • jefeinoc

    Far left website says everyone they disagree with lies…. Chuckle, never saw that one coming.

  • Pilgrim22

    I call bs.

  • WV Medic

    A news story, no matter where it comes from, is only a condensed version of what really happened. It should inspire someone, if they are interested in the topic, to not take anyone’s word for it and research the item(s) for yourself. Opinions by commentators, whether its Fox or CNN or ABC….are only opinions. If you are satisfied with accepting some paid crony’s opinion, then yes, you are a lemming….and should grab another glass of Tea flavored Kool-Aid.

  • Tom Sawyer

    Divide and conquer, my friends. Everyone is saying the other guy lies to you, when they both have a corporate agenda to keep us at each others throats. MSNBC and Fox both play us and we ask for more. Wise up suckers.

  • Venus Van Damme

    Amazing how much republicans cry about the liberal media. I guess they are only crying about that 60% truth on CNN. NO MORE CABLE NEWS FOR ME! Local channels only!

  • Tontine

    Nothing but commucrat propaganda on this site!

  • Sylverarow

    Oh this is great, an article saying Fox News is rated the least truthful. That is great if you understand the fact that they pick and chose which things they are going to “check”. Honestly if I was working for a group who is known for their left wing bias I would not “check” anything I knew was true… I would wait and only check this things I could spin because of a slip of the tongue or that later information changed the truth of. Hell I could in that fashion prove Obama lied 100% of the time about where he was born cause I only checked that one time he stated he was born as part of the opening of the lion king… of course in a later sentence he made it a joke…. but he stated a lie and if that was the only thing I checked… guess what his numbers are like. If you think I am lying about their practices check out this article:


    If you read they never state that they check everything said that could be checked. Only that those things they check can be verified, although I will says some of the articles I read they were willing to use opinion of others to prove someones statement false. I am a conservative, but I don’t care which party you are part of or for, I hate lying more than I I dislike anyone but Liars.

  • NickRepublic

    See little Tommy? This is what a wussified pseudo-news website looks like.

  • Concealed Carry

    sounds like Lib bull s#lt to me!

  • Avi

    These comments are really, really funny. I didn’t know that there is a magic phrase that not only excuses, but justifies communicating in a rude and condescending manner. “Did you look at the blue link!?!”
    I’m going to try this on my boss!
    I’ll talk down to him in a pseudo academic snobby belittling way, and then when he points out that I’m being rude I’ll just yell “Did you fallow the blue link!?!” and he’ll be like putty in my hand.
    This is going to be awesome!!

  • algebra

    I tend to jump around between the big three and usually they are all covering the same story at the same time. A press conference here, breaking news there.
    The differences are in the commentaries.
    I think the people who claim one or another is not telling the truth are confusing the commentary programs with the news programs. Just because you disagree with somebody’s analysis of events doesn’t mean they are lying about it.
    If Melissa Harris Perry thinks only slaves were “hard workers” and showing that Muslim woman in her hijab was “racist,” she’s expressing her opinions, not stating facts. Just because they are mind-boggling stupid opinions doesn’t mean they are lies

  • Rob_Drury

    “Fact-checking sites” have no intention of discerning facts; only spreading liberal propaganda. If it doesn’t support their agenda, it’s not a fact.

  • rejectrepublicanlies

    That seems low. “Fox News” is nothing more than the Republican’s propaganda machine. Goebbels told the truth more often than that evil network.

  • marktomark

    what a catchy name forward progressives !! you mean LYING MONEY LAUNDERING BACK POCKET STUFFERS !! and where are the examples ???? NONE !!!

  • Karen

    Fact checkers paid for by Clinton

  • Alan Riedel

    This is patent drivel. Fox doesn’t doctor tapes and interviews to fit their agenda.

  • ThomasCollins1

    Which statements, exactly? I don’t believe a word of this. They should at least have provided some examples of the “lies”.

  • navyservant52

    This entire article is a lie! Liberals and their evil friends lie the most, and they will stoop to any level to enact their vengeance upon God fearing people, especially upon the media that has integrity. CNN, MSNBC,ABC, CBS- corrupt to the CORE. IMMORALITY HAS been increasing exponentially, just as Jesus stated it would, and the sick, worldly ones know their time is short, so they are fightung with every weapon they can, ti cinfuse and sway ignorant masses.

  • Sparky1313

    Nothing about mainstream media TWISTING words or NOT telling the public about important news…..but also NOT ONE actual piece of evidence against FOX.