The First Donald Trump/Mike Pence Interview was Humiliating for the Republican Party (Video)

On Sunday, Donald Trump and Mike Pence appeared on 60 Minutes in their first joint interview since it was announced that the Indiana governor was going to be Trump’s running mate.

And, wow, this was one of the most awkward things I’ve ever watched. This Trump/Pence team might rank up there with McCain/Palin as one of the most “odd couples” we’ve ever had in politics. I know it’s tough for many folks reading this to sit through any sort of Trump speech or interview, but I would encourage everyone to watch this disaster.

In case you don’t have time, or the desire to do so, I’ll summarize some of the best parts.

One of the first idiotic moments came when Trump stated that he was going to “declare war on ISIS,” yet he would only send “very few troops” in on the ground. Ignoring the fact that Congress declares war – not the president – he apparently doesn’t understand that if you don’t send in enough ground forces to get the job done, our troops are going to get stretched thin, fatigued — and slaughtered. This was classic Trump trying to talk big about ISIS, proving that he doesn’t know what the hell he’s talking about.

Then when the war in Iraq was brought up, 60 Minutes’ Leslie Stahl mentioned the fact that Pence actually voted for the war when he was a member of Congress.

“I don’t care,” Trump said.

“What do you mean you don’t care?,” Stahl responded.

“It was a long time ago,” he replied. “And they were also misled.”

Stahl, obviously taken aback by Trump’s remarks, then reminded him that he had used Hillary Clinton’s vote on Iraq frequently throughout his campaign as a sign of her “bad judgement.” At which point he essentially said that Pence was allowed to make a mistake but Hillary wasn’t.

You really can’t make this stuff up.

When religion was brought up, Trump claimed that “he’s religious” because he won the evangelical vote. By that “logic,” since he’s winning the white supremacist vote, (using his own logic) that means he’s also a racist.

Leslie Stahl then asked Pence (who’s spoken out against negative campaigning) what she thought of Trump’s negative attacks and name calling. Pence tried to provide a half-assed non-answer to her question, only to have Trump cut him off (as he did throughout this entire thing) to provide his own non-answer to her question.

At one point, when Pence was asked whether or not he disagreed with comments Trump made where he said he didn’t think Sen. John McCain was a war hero, Trump literally said to the Indiana governor, “You could say yes. That’s okay. On that one you could say yes. It’s fine.”


I have never seen anything like this where a presidential candidate was basically telling his running mate that it was okay if they answered a question honestly. Not only that, but despite telling him it was alright for him to be honest about that question — he never let Pence actually answer. Trump cutting off Pence was a common theme throughout this interview.

Stahl then brought up the fact that Mike Pence has been very pro-trade agreements, including the TPP, while Trump has based a large part of his campaigning saying that these agreements represent a “rape of our country.” At which point both men tried to do what they had done many times throughout this interview and dance around their obvious differences in policy beliefs, with both men claiming that Trump isn’t against free trade, he “just wants better deals.”

When the topic of torture was brought up, Pence was asked whether or not he backs Trump’s support of waterboarding and “a hell of a lot more.” He more or less refused to provide a direct answer as to whether or not he supports torture. A simple question turned into a rather incoherent word salad of the Indiana governor seemingly doing anything and everything he could to not provide a “yes” or “no” answer to a very direct question.

Perhaps the best part of this whole interview occurred when Stahl said that most people don’t view Trump as a “humble man.” He disputed this point, claiming he is actually quite humble.

“I think I am, actually, humble,” Trump replied. “I think I’m much more humble than you would understand.”

Yes, the person who constantly brags about himself, his success, his supposed wealth and has his name written all over practically everything he owns stated, with a straight face, that he’s actually a very humble person.

Like I said, this interview was one of the most awkward, unintentionally comical and ridiculous things I’ve ever watched. Normally sitting through an interview with Donald Trump would make my skin crawl, but this thing was so bizarre that it was actually entertaining.

These two men couldn’t be more different and they have absolutely no chemistry. This might go down as one of the most disastrous presidential tickets in U.S. history.

This interview was absolutely humiliating for Republicans and the Republican party as a whole. Sadly, it’s an embarrassing moment for our nation as well.

Watch it below via CBS News:

Allen Clifton

Allen Clifton is a native Texan who now lives in the Austin area. He has a degree in Political Science from Sam Houston State University. Allen is a co-founder of Forward Progressives and creator of the popular Right Off A Cliff column and Facebook page. Be sure to follow Allen on Twitter and Facebook, and subscribe to his channel on YouTube as well.


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  • David in Palm Springs

    “These two men couldn’t be more different and they have absolutely no chemistry. This might go down as one of the most disastrous presidential tickets in U.S. history.”

    King of the imbeciles, George W. Bush won the presidency twice. So there’s no accounting for the ignorance and stupidity of Americans. It would be unwise to dismiss these new imbeciles as not having a real possibly to take over and destroy our country.

    • Wildkitty

      I can’t wait to see WHO and WHAT Trump decides is to blame for his loss in November. I imagine that he will simply fall apart and, of course, he will claim to have been a conspiracy to embarrass him in front of all his ‘wonderful’ family, business associates and friends.
      And then he will file a lawsuit to get what he is ‘entitled to’ – the Presidency of the United States.
      I’m old, but at this point, I’m wishing my life away just to see his reaction when he and his running mate lose in November!

      • Donna

        But I am really afraid he won’t lose in November. There are too many uninformed people who still think Trump is great because he’s not a “Washington insider” and will “make America great” again and who buy the BS that Obama and the “liberals” have ruined the country. These are the kind of people who would vote for the devil if the devil ran as a conservative Republican.

      • Wildkitty

        ONLY if these same people actually turn out for the November vote – when they aren’t being entertained at the dog and pony show that Donald puts on at all his rallies.
        While he claims to have won the ‘biggest majority’ – he fails to acknowledge that that ‘biggest majority’ is still less than 30% of actual voters.

      • Donna

        I sure hope you’re right! I can’t imagine how screwed up this country would be under that a-hole.

      • Sunnysmom

        Fear not..the Electoral College will save us on this one. Hillary’s got a pretty big advantage.

      • Teresa Groves

        Look how subservient Melania is. She’s the first one he’ll take out his frustration on – behind closed doors.

      • Wildkitty

        I doubt Melania would allow that. She is bar better educated than Donald and she is far from being the shy, retiring type.

      • QB59

        One year at the University of Slovenia and then becoming a model, does not make her educated. She’s a gold-digger. Donald met her at the Kit Kat Club, so I don’t think she’s close to being MENSA material. She knew what she was signing up for when she married that rich sociopathic narcissist.

      • Wildkitty

        I’m sorry, but I said nothing about MENSA.?? However, I DO agree with the ‘gold digger’ comment.
        Education comes in many forms and while I’m rooting – with everything I’ve got – for Donald to have to walk away from this election with his tail between his legs – I do give Melania credit for her European education.
        Just as an example. I graduated British ‘secondary’ school at age 16 (sixteen) – passing an Oxford and Cambridge Exam in both English and French – both written and orally. That education is considered equal to at least two years of American Community College AFTER graduating high school. I’m fluent in English (my first language) and French – and I comprehend both German and Spanish – although my conversational ability is limited. Mind you, that was all a few years ago and, I guess, things do change.
        However, getting back to ‘Melania’s education’! We must remember that this country’s education system has deteriorated from No, 1 in the 34 OECD countries – to No. 17 – so most European countries provide a better more expansive education than do ours and include learning various languages – which is rare here. So a one year stint at a European university is much better than a two or three year stint here. Have you ever noticed that Americans expect everyone in other countries (when they travel) to speak English? And most do speak more than one language.
        Melania is fluent in FIVE languages. Slovenian – obviously is her first language – plus English, German, Serbian and French – PLUS her over-all expansive regular education.
        Donald, on the other hand is a ‘salesman’ and might have book learning, but he is not what I would consider ‘educated’ – to deal with ‘people’ and the world at large. He has been ‘tunnel-visioned’ all his life for one purpose – to make money, any which way he can – from anyone he can. YES, he is a sociopathic narcissist.!

    • Scopedog

      Well, GW only won one election–in 2004. In 2000, it had to be stolen and he was installed in the White House.

      But I get what you’re saying. Considering that the MSM has given Trump a free ride and that some on the far Left continue to claim that Hillary Clinton is somehow worse than Trump….well, yeah, we cannot dismiss Trump/Pence or the GOP. We have to work like hell to make sure that Election Day in November results in the total annihilation of this noxious ticket.

  • cruisersailor

    I can’t bring myself to watch Trump on TV. His supporters must be complete idiots to believe in this man.

    • noah vail

      at what point did you have any doubt ?

    • yannaro

      Trump makes me feel exactly how I felt every time I heard Ronald Reagan speak.

      • The Klandidate

        You nearly vomited when Reagan spoke? Me too….I thought I was the only one.

  • hermanprovi

    Pence, has come out of the closet as ‘hair’Drumpfs’, LAP-DOG! A reporter asks Pence a question, and ‘hair’ jams his hand up Pences’ a** and answers!