For the Last Time: Here’s Proof the Democratic Primary Wasn’t Rigged Against Bernie Sanders

Following the “controversy” over the DNC email hack, some Bernie Sanders supporters are infuriated again, claiming that these emails “prove” there was a conspiracy against the senator from Vermont that “rigged” the Democratic primary for Hillary Clinton.



Look, if you’re someone who truly and honestly believes that these elections were literally rigged, with voter fraud and “irregularities,” just stop reading this right now because everything else I’m about to write is pointless. You’re a far-left conspiracy theorist who simply wants to believe in whatever it is you believe and I’m not even going to attempt to try to reason with you.

As for everyone else, thanks for continuing to read.

Yes, even as a supporter of Hillary Clinton, I will admit that simply glancing at these emails without any sort of context to them, they appear to be a big deal. Then you realize the fact that only 6 or 7 emails out of around 20,000 released were deemed to be remotely “anti-Bernie.”

Does that really “prove” there was a giant conspiracy against him? I’ve read numerous articles from pro-Sanders people claiming these emails are the “smoking gun” that shows the process was rigged, based on these 6-7 emails — or around 0.035% of what Wikileaks released. If there were really some giant conspiracy against Sanders, I think we’d be discussing a lot more than 0.035% of 20k emails.

And even of those I’ve seen, only two could be considered “anti-Bernie.” The others were simply responses to other emails discussing comments Sanders or his campaign had made, often while bashing recently resigned DNC Chairwoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz, the DNC or both. Are party officials not supposed to discuss one of their candidates openly calling them unethical, corrupt and continuing to try to vilify them?

Also, keep in mind, all of these “controversial emails” I’ve seen pushed by pro-Sanders people were written in late April or May — when Hillary Clinton was all but unbeatable and everyone but Sanders, his campaign and his supporters knew this race was over. So, when Schultz wrote on May 21st that Bernie wasn’t going to be president (in response to someone asking her about comments he made during an interview), she wasn’t “bashing Bernie” — that was just the truth based on reality and basic math. At that point in the election, he needed to win around 70 percent of all remaining delegates to catch Clinton, which wasn’t going to happen.

However, as I wrote the other day, the person who suggested that they go after Bernie’s religion is disgusting and, like Schultz, should be removed from his position at the DNC. As I also wrote, his “suggestion” never actually happened. Even though this individual suggested it, the party never came close to taking his awful idea seriously.

The bottom line is this: The primary wasn’t rigged.

I know quite a few pro-Sanders folks want to believe that it was, but it wasn’t. Bernie Sanders lost the nomination because he couldn’t win the minority vote — end of story. This is not about some convoluted conspiracy, or some nefarious ploy by the DNC to hand the nomination to Hillary Clinton, it’s about basic, indisputable math and reality.

A few weeks ago I did a complete mathematical breakdown of the entire Democratic primary, which you can check out here.

But let me run down a few of the numbers that prove these conspiracies are ridiculous.

Of the 50 states, Clinton won 28 while Sanders won 22. So, she only won six more states than he did. One would think that if the DNC really wanted to “rig” the election, she would have won it much easier than she did — and Sanders certainly wouldn’t have won 22 states.



When it came to the primary elections (both open and closed), Clinton won 76 percent. Meanwhile, when it came to caucuses, Sanders won 86 percent. So, it’s clear that, based on the type of election, it was fairly easy to predict which candidate might win based on those numbers alone. Also keep in mind that caucuses would actually be easier to “rig” than a primary, so the fact that Sanders overwhelmingly won those contests is a big indicator that this “rigged conspiracy” is total nonsense.

But the real issue here (as I alluded to earlier) was how diverse the state was. Here’s the breakdown of the average racial demographics of the states each candidate won:

Hillary Clinton:

  • White: 64%
  • African American: 16%
  • Latino: 14%

Bernie Sanders:

  • White: 78%
  • African American: 5%
  • Latino: 8%

You don’t even need to really see anything else to understand that Clinton overwhelmingly won the minority vote — especially the African American vote.

But I went further, breaking down Clinton and Sanders’ five biggest wins. Here are the average racial demographics from those states:

Hillary Clinton (Alabama, Georgia, Louisiana, Mississippi and South Carolina):

  • White: 60%
  • African American: 32%
  • Latino: 5%

Bernie Sanders (Vermont, Alaska, Utah, Idaho and Washington):

  • White: 78%
  • African American: 2%
  • Latino: 9%

I would also like to point out that all of Hillary’s biggest wins came in primary states, whereas 4 out of 5 of Bernie’s came in caucus states. This follows the same pattern of overall winning percentage I mentioned earlier with Clinton winning 76 percent of primaries, while Sanders won 86 percent of caucuses.

Furthermore, as I stated in the full breakdown:

There are 21 states in this country with an African American population of 10 percent or greater — Sanders won exactly 2 (9.5%). Of the 22 states that have Latino populations of 10 percent or greater, he won 11 (50%). However, in the 23 states with white populations of 70 percent or greater, Sanders won 16 (70%).

Think about those numbers. He lost 90.5 percent of states with an African American population over 10 percent and half the states with a Latino population of 10 percent or greater — but won 70 percent of the states with a white population over 70 percent.

What these numbers tell me is that I could find someone who knows nothing about politics or either candidate, show them a list of states listed “State A, B, C..,” and they would be able to most likely accurately predict around 90-95 percent of the time which candidate would win each non-identified state based on nothing more than knowing the racial demographics and whether or not the state used a primary or a caucus.

So, I’m sorry Sanders supporters, but this election wasn’t rigged — he just couldn’t win the minority vote.

Though if you continue to claim that it is, you’re actually suggesting a few things:

  • That something the DNC did caused minority voters (especially African Americans) to overwhelmingly support Hillary Clinton over Bernie Sanders. So, if that’s your stance, can you please point to exactly what the DNC did to sway only minority voters in her direction?
  • Considering that Sanders overwhelming won the white vote, yet was soundly defeated when it came to African American voters (and even mostly lost the Latino vote, as well), are you suggesting that white voters were more informed and resistant to “DNC rigging” than African American and Latino voters? Because that’s basically what you’re claiming when you say the election was “rigged,” yet the math shows Sanders mainly lost because he couldn’t win the African American and Latino vote. So, why did he win so many mostly white states, yet lose so many more diverse ones? Again, keep in mind that if they only “rigged” certain states, what, specifically, did they do to “rig” the states with larger minority populations that caused those minority voters to support Clinton?

If you want to claim that the “primary was rigged,” then you have to be able to explain not only what the DNC specifically did to “rig” the election — but also explain why African American and Latino voters seemed to be the only two racial groups impacted by this supposed “rigging” of the election.

Otherwise, you are either claiming it was rigged simply because that’s what you want to believe, or you have to recognize the reality: Bernie Sanders ran a magnificent campaign which changed the Democratic party (and the country) forever, but it was his inability to sway African American and Latino voters which ultimately cost him the nomination.

Feel free to hit me up on Twitter or Facebook and let me know what you think.




Allen Clifton

Allen Clifton is a native Texan who now lives in the Austin area. He has a degree in Political Science from Sam Houston State University. Allen is a co-founder of Forward Progressives and creator of the popular Right Off A Cliff column and Facebook page. Be sure to follow Allen on Twitter and Facebook, and subscribe to his channel on YouTube as well.

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  • cruisersailor

    I’m glad to see that Debbie Wasserman Schultz is resigning.

    • Allen Clifton

      I am too. I’ve never been a fan of hers and I think her leadership was awful.

    • JGat

      And completely UN-surprised to see Clinton officially hire her to “CONTINUE to serve as my SURROGATE” in the Clinton campaign…

      • leemd46

        for the record, and I am no HRC fan, she didn’t hire her. She named her Honorary Chair, as an ego soother. It means nothing…Obama named at least 3 in his campaign.

      • Jettisawn

        She is also considering for a cabinet position….

      • leemd46

        where did you get this information?

      • leemd46

        I am asking again… where did you get this info?

      • Jettisawn

        “The Clinton campaign has confirmed that Wasserman Schultz is being considered for the position of Secretary of the Interior: stating that her years at the helm of the DNC have given her the invaluable insight and experience as a leader that is needed for a Cabinet level post.”

        http://nationalreport.net/wasserman-schultz-recieve-cabinet-position-clinton-presidency/

      • Mike Shortland

        this too will cause riots

      • leemd46

        I have searched and searched and there is nothing to support your assertion…other than the so called independent national report that touts the photos of Sarah Palin and Cruz on its masthead. So I am lead to believe that you are another spreader of lies, Crawl back under your rock or come up with some reputable sources like NPR, which is a true journalism source and not a color it to reflect the ideology of the owner.

      • Jettisawn

        Leemd46, you seem to have me confused with a some tea-party right wing conspiracy theorist. Which I am not. I read that she was being consider for the position, and after DWS getting a campaign position and her more than likely going to lose her up coming election it isn’t outside the realm of possibility that she will get a cabinet position. Time will tell if she gets one, but even the fringe news gets it right from time to time and to me seems very plausible.

      • leemd46

        You are correct that I did think you were closely aligned with the far right due
        to your source. I sincerely apologize. I go back to the DWS issue: she
        was not given a real position with the ego-soothing “honorary chair.” It is like being awarded an honorary doctorate from a University…it doesn’t give professional credibility. However, I too would have like to have seen this particular person
        awarded with a good swift kick in the rear. I do not think, truly hope, HRC would not be so foolish as to give that party member a cabinet position, which would bring tremendous anger down on her administration by the 13 million Bernie supporters who are watching everything she will be doing during the campaign, and definitely will be after she is elected. You are correct time
        will tell, and I sincerely hope we will be watching HRC like a hawk as president rather than holding our breath as we are led by an immature, megalomaniac, reactionary, dangerous Donald Trump.

    • Nodella

      Too little, too late. She and her staff should be hung on the Mall.

  • exit 7

    This is what makes DWS and the e-mail scandal so infuriating.Hilary was doing fine. Now we have another cloud of suspicion,another round of crooked and dishonest charges that the entire world will get to heat, from now til November. DWS needs to stay away from the convention.

    • Mike Shortland

      HAHAHAHAH she was never doing fine . we didnt vot efor obama we voted against her LMAO she will never ever be president period .

      • exit 7

        Keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better….

  • csbrudy

    U assume the voting machines processing the “ballots” in the primary states were accurate. There is no way on earth anyone can prove the machines were Not hacked. In fact, the discrepancies appearing in later states, for example the disenfranchisement in Brooklyn, proved there was an organized effort to keep Sanders backers from voting. Viola, a person cannot trust the machine outputs from earlier states.

    • ratherdrive

      Trying to prove a negative, as in “not hacked,” is a fool’s errand.

      Ont the other hand, voting machines are the “root of political evil,” and must be discarded forthwith.

    • George Tveden

      When exit polling shows more that a few points different than the actual results, that is a red flag used by election observers the world over. Funny, the DNC and media decided to abruptly end exit polling in California.

      • Chase Kenyon

        here in NH it was shocking how exit polls were over 80% for Bernie and he only gets 60% of the vote and then gets less votes than Shrillary.

    • Gunelle

      The “disenfranchisement” in Brooklyn did not “prove” there was an organized effort to keep Sanders backers from voting. Did you interview each and every voter who was dropped from the roll to know they were all going to vote for Sanders? There was certainly inefficiency and disorganization and the voting rolls got messed up. This does not in any way prove there was deliberate rigging to favor HRC. Your claiming so does not make it so. As for not being able to prove the machines were not hacked – indeed, one cannot prove a negative. It’s like the argument against atheists: well, you can’t prove there is no God, therefore there is a God.

      • Mike Shortland

        ummm they werent planning on having to fudge ny . was last minute one so they targeted groups morelikely to vote for bernie ie .. minorities an union workers an the blocks they live on . no registrations were messed up in rich areas . those people were already donating to her . the proof is everywhere is no less then 3 lawsuits an 3 election monitoring groups all saying he won by at least 15% a landslide victory the nation over

      • Stephan Fitzgerald Taylor

        Minorities were far more likely to vote for Clinton, as many polls show.

    • Chase Kenyon

      And it can be proven. If the people remember what Bernie has said all along. It has to be a revolution of sorts. We have to revolt against the DNC covering up and saying we make the rules and “Bernie will never be president”.

    • Mike Shortland

      @2% variance from exit polls is proof of fraud period
      tey average from 12 to 18 19 % variance in exit polls for clinton . in many states she won . including puerto rico

  • Joshua Loftus

    Primary and caucus states aren’t just different demographically. Caucus states almost all had same-day voter registration. Primary states almost all had 2 week or longer advanced registration deadlines. Advanced registration deadlines are a barrier to young and new voters, who Sanders carried by large margins. I’m a statistician, and my analysis of the primary data showed that if all states had same-day registration the race would have been much closer. On top of that, imagine if the superdelegates hadn’t piled on from the beginning and the media hadn’t ignored him until he won New Hampshire, and it’s not hard to believe he may have won. https://joftius.wordpress.com/2016/05/29/fivethiryeight-is-wrong-the-system-is-rigged-against-sanders/

    • Gunelle

      That may or may not be, but does not in any way indicate the election was rigged. The fact that voters did not realize when they needed to register by or that they couldn’t vote in the primary as independents is a problem of lack of awareness and education about the electoral process, not rigging.

      • Mike Shortland

        seriously . they didnt miss the deadline they got their affilition changed after confirmation of registration . get real

    • Mike Shortland

      3 lawsuits an 3 election monitoring groups all say he won nation by round 15%

      • Susie Boedecker

        Anyone can file a lawsuit. Proving it to be true in a court of law is another thing. Just ask any lawyer how many sure fire law suits were lost. Nothing is a sure thing. The 3 election monitoring groups are not biased are they, none of their facts are contested by other groups and organizations? Are they federally sanctioned oversight groups? No. And no! You are stating something that has not been proven true by a court of law and the election monitoring groups are Bernie and Trump supporters, mostly Independents, not non biased, non partisan election monitoring groups. Your bias is showing.

  • Serious Starsider

    At least the author admits in the very first paragraph that all he wants to do is preach to the choir. So you Hillary fans can all join hands and congratulate and pat each other on the backs. Meanwhile the rest of us clearly see the writing on the wall.

    • martin woyzeck

      I’ve seen other pieces from allen clifton, he’s a hack writer, with little intelligence.
      He has an agenda, more than likely paid by the dnc.
      He does not write neutral, nor show all sides, and most of what he writes are either huge fabrications or out right lies

      • The Klandidate

        Hillary won the popular vote by a wide margin and Bernie supports her for President. What are your questions?

      • Mike Shortland

        sure he does they didnt threaten his seat on the va committee or threaten to boot his progressive running in next election . there totally isnt 3 nonpartisan election groups claiming sanders won by at least 15% nation wide , an surely wasnt 10 complete states virtually letout of your vote tally because they were caucuses . not to mention emails voicemails an other proof that has presented itself in ech an every step of this process . LOL are you paid for your online media presence by the dnc her campaign or a super pac??

      • The Klandidate

        Did you just have a stroke? Seriously, you have lost touch with reality here

      • Alaric Holmes

        You’re not interested in questions. Whenever anyone brings up facts to show you’re wrong, you just heap insults on them and accuse them of wanting Trump in office. You routinely cite numbers that have been shown to be at least questionable if not outright false. Even if you are a real person who’s honestly presenting his beliefs, the fact that Correct the Record was doing what it was doing makes it impossible for me not to suggest that you are a paid shill whose job it is to muddy the waters and belittle anyone who brings up anything that demonstrates your candidate is a fraud and that she and the DNC defrauded the American electorate.

      • John Baron Miller

        Enjoy your Trump vote. Hopefully he is everything you dream of.

      • Mike Shortland

        being partisan or presenting slanted proof as a journalist used to be ilegal til corporations took over the media an lobbied for those loaws changed .

    • The Klandidate

      She did get 4 MILLION more votes than Sanders….

      • Serious Starsider

        So now that you know that you are ok being lied to?

      • The Klandidate

        Lied to about what?

      • Mike Shortland

        dont bother man pretty sure hes paid media presence . he may not even back her but is paid to online

    • Mike Shortland

      seems to be working as in all post an comment threads you see 8 to 10 paid media people an hundreds of bernie people shocker . just like her rallys all paid staff

      • Serious Starsider

        I just noticed today that NPR no longer uses Disqus… I wonder why?

  • Carrie M

    So why are they apologizing? They are admitting it is true and can’t find a dnc official that has not been involved!

  • André Fennis Salas

    I’m just going to say I question the accuracy of numbers regarding Clinton’s “popularity” with blacks and Latinos, especially since minorities historically get blocked at the ballot box and get fewer polling stations and longer, off-putting waits to vote. Couple that with the recent mysterious “purging” of votes, how are we to think these numbers are an accurate representation of Clinton’s strength with people of color? I’m not buying it.

  • Andrew Revell

    “Rigged” means different things to different people so I won’t use that word. What I will say is that Article 5 section 4 of the DNC charter requires that the Chair and all DNC officials remain impartial and evenhanded toward all democratic candidates in the election process, and in some cases officials repeatedly stated that they were following these rules. They repeatedly lied. Did the DNC rig the election? More evidence is needed to answer that question. Did they remain impartial and evenhanded? They clearly, absolutely did not. The fact that there are few e-mails containing evidence of charter violation doesn’t mean much considering that officials actually talk about “taking things offline” rather than plot against Bernie in detail by e-mail. I have several thousand e-mails in my accounts. How many of them contain conversations about how to secretly prevent Bernie Sanders from winning the Democratic Primary? Zero. How many of my thousands of e-mails mention taking things offline so as to avoid being xaught discussing how to secretly prevent Bernie Sanders from winning the Democratic Primary? Zero. Proof of wrongdoing is very rare. Any prosecutor can tell you that. That’s why, more often than not, we rely on evidence, not proof, to convict criminals. And there is more than enough evidence for any reasonable person to conclude that the DNC broke the rules.

  • Eric Sauder

    I think that anyone that tries to argue that the Democratic Party was open to Sanders as a candidate isn’t arguing objectively.

    • Mike Shortland

      or is paid to do so

  • David Cooper

    The Super delegate process pretty much makes sure the final outcome is rigged for the establishment favorite. There were times Bernie won the vote but got way less delegates. That is not a equitable system and it is wide open to a fix.

    • The Klandidate

      She also had 4 million more votes. You left that part out.

      • Seth O’Bannion

        Yeah, and in addition to other biases by the DNC, including a pathetic debate schedule (which heavily favored Clinton’s much stronger name recognition), the bandwagon effect created by the largest distortion by superdelegates in Dem history could have easily made up a few points

        difference.

      • The Klandidate

        Go ahead and let me know when there is a massive election of Socialists at the local and state level and then come see me. Until then, get to work and make something happen other than whining and crying like a spoiled, trust funded, college dropout.

      • Seth O’Bannion

        Who said anything about socialists? You’re quite obviously a troll or a shill. You just keep posting obviously selected talking points despite it being clear to everyone outside of the Clinton and establishment bubble that the primary was very unfair. At the very least, the sheer number of problems that have occurred during the primary make our democracy look like a joke.

        We have basically the lowest voter turnout among industrialized nations. But yeah, just shit on anyone who doesn’t want more of the same bullshit…

      • The Klandidate

        I’m far from a shill, I’m a realist. So you are for Trump? OMFG If you are really a Sanders supporter, go ahead and stay true to your principles then (vote Green party or whatever) and hopefully Donald Trump will be everything you hoped for, for the next 4 to 8 years while he also nominates a generation of Supreme Court Justices, likely 3 to 4. Right? Is that really what you are hoping for? If not, get out and vote for a true progressive, Hillary Clinton. This isn’t fantasy land and playtime is over.

      • The Klandidate

        BTW, Bernie is a self described Socialist. What are your questions? Did you really think America would elect a Socialist? Come on…grow up.

      • Daniel OMeara

        He ran on a platform of FDR-style liberal ideals and in no way called for policies that would be considered pure socialism where the government takes ownership of private businesses, He self-identifies as democratic socialist, a label that has been defined in different ways by different people. Listening to Bernie Sanders speak, he defines what it means to him and that is made apparent through his policies. Those policies are overwhelmingly popular with the American people. Your so-called logic is lacking in any understanding of the complexities of the situation and relies solely on a basic misunderstanding of the term socialism. Perhaps you can quit wasting people’s time and go find a bridge to live under or an office desk to stand on. Sorry, I’m not sure exactly what form of troll you are.

      • The Klandidate

        I know very well what socialism is and I know very well that Sanders didn’t want to be a Democrat. Your basic understanding of that is the problem. make sure you go check in with the Trump campaign because you obviously are working for them at this point. Congrats.

      • Daniel OMeara

        Oh, I’m sorry, my mistake. You’re one of those trolls who can only see things in black and white terms with no nuance. I fear I have wasted both of our time.

      • The Klandidate

        Says the Bernie Sanders troll…smh

      • Damo

        Supposedly! Highly Doubtful though! I’ve seen you around before trolling for Hillary.You’re a right little Hillary kiss ass so facts and evidence are wasted on you. I hope she pays well!

      • The Klandidate

        “supposedly”….mmmhmmm… Sure pal. Alex Jones is looking for you. You might want to check in.

      • The Klandidate

        Why don’t you let your Socialist state representatives know about all of your complaints. How many Socialists do we have in office today? I’m curious if you know? Face facts, Bernie didn’t even want to be a Democrat so why should the DNC favor him or give him access to any DNC infrastructure? Why should he even be allowed to speak to Democratic voters in the primary when he barely considers himself one? Why didn’t he just run as a Repub or Independent and make a go of it?

      • The Klandidate

        You still haven’t answered. How many socialists do we have at local, state, and federal levels of govt today? And go ahead and tell me what he could get done with a Republican controlled house and senate. He certainly wasn’t helping anyone else get elected…..what do you think he could actually accomplish?

  • Sanity Please

    Wasserman-Schultz was always a bought and paid for lackey of the Clinton Death Star. Sanders delegates should cast their votes for Sanders, and then immediately walk out of the ethically bankrupt Democratic convention. #NeverHillary #SandersOrStein

    • The Klandidate

      Right and then we can all welcome Donald Trump as the next POTUS…what an astoundingly stupid idea you have there….

      • Damo

        You should’ve thought about that before voting for a Candidate that can’t beat Trump and assuming we would all just fall in line to vote for Hillary when we’ve been telling you for months that only Bernie beats Trump easily.But no… you wanted Corporate Clinton. You gambled and lost. If you voted Bernie you wouldn’t be in this predicament now would yer. Now who’s a silly boy? Watch the Dem Party shrink!! Sucker!!

      • The Klandidate

        Looks like Alex Jones sent his D team out today….loosen the tinfoil hat there fella.

      • Jeanie White

        You guys sound like the tin foil hats, you are just repeating MSNBC & NPR, you obviously haven’t been paying attention during the primary watching Bernie’s votes at early count at over 6000 , in Delaware, while Hillary’s were about 3000, then 2 hours later , Bernie has about 3000, & Hil’s are up to 6000. State after state.
        You weren’t paying attentionfor hours as the counts changed state after state.

        US ranks 47th in election fraud, Ca polls off by 18%, look up video on the Chicago election board hearings.
        No, you wont, you’re too sure of yourself, and too lazy, you want to.keep your head in the sand. Damn, I am 66, no kid, and am so disappointed in my generation.
        And, Karl Rove was all over this, he has new vote stealing programs. But you will not look, you will all jump all over me, but not investigate, it might disrupt your life. If HRC loses it’s the fault of the DNC,DWS, & lazy ,ignorant blind followers like you.

        We are about to go off a cliff &you are too damn comfortable to care.
        The election should be decertified.
        Did any of you know the DNC tried to.pull a fast one, and have the vote at breakfast on Tuesday, but it turns out that Bernie won that written vote,where each delegate had a paper ballot on which they checked off their choice & signed.??
        They had tried to maneuver out of the roll call vote.

        But it backfired on them, so they set another vote for 4 pm, Hillary won that WITH the superdelegates counted in at the same time, not the way the rules require.

        Bernie was very smart when he called for a rule suspension & nominated Hillary. He has never conceded, and never released his delegates.
        So if the lawsuit is heard,( or Hil is arrested or eliminated for her Foundation pay to play), Bernie replaces her on the ticket.

        If youvreally care about truth, read this.

        http://www.justicenewsnetwork.com/the-latest-from-cliff-arnebeck-in-ohio-better-read-this-one-folks/

      • The Klandidate

        oh boy…..She got 4 million more votes. Period. You have already gone over the cliff with your imaginary world of conspiracy theories. But hey, go ahead and live in your bubble and ensure we have a president trump who will destroy this country at its very seems. That is exactly what you Bernie or busters are trying to do…..maybe you will get exactly that so you can be happy.

      • Mike Shortland

        only she didnt the left out 10 states from those totals some of who have more then 10 million registered voters . then you add in the 12 million nations wide whose affiliation was changed or simply removed after many years its not even close call at least 3 different election monitoring orgs have now claimed bernie won by 15% nationwide . an that doesnt include the many ballots that had no paper trail or were “lost” ie shredded . if your gonna come at progressive you may wanna come with something better then a highschool bullies tactics . Shills stole the nom an will never ever be prez .

      • The Klandidate

        What makes you think they vote for Sanders? LMAO

      • Mike Wilen

        Your denial is quite humorous. When we look at foreign elections we look for anything more than 2% yet in Hillbots land they can and were in the 15-25% range. Blaming young voters makes no sense. I would ask for you to take your blinders off but I realize you are most likely a paid Shillary troll so I will just say this. You are selling yourself and your future children short.

      • The Klandidate

        Do you deny that Hillary had 4 million more votes? If you do, please cite your source.

      • Mike Wilen

        Absolutely not.Simply look at voter disenfranchising in Brooklyn at 120,000 voters purged and Nevada and most likely every southern state. Illinois got caught with dirty voting machines. Are you really that gullible to believe 25000 people showing up at a Sanders rally vs. a couple of hundred at a Clinton does not speak volumes about voter fraud? Please throw insults at me all you want. That is all you have. Your candidate is a lying corporate whore who is not qualified to be dog catcher much less President.

      • John Baron Miller

        No need to insult as you haven’t cited a source…..enjoy your alternate reality.

      • Swami22

        The reality is that millions of Americans are just like you John. Backing a woman they HAVE to KNOW is DIRTY to the bone. If she wins the people lose. You better hope she doesn’t.
        She will vote for TPP, ignore the War on the folks you call thugs. And continue to profit along with her rapist husband in the distribution of cocaine that they’ve been involved with since Reagan was President.
        Mena airport was the conduit for tons of cocaine the CIA was importing into the US, purportedly to purchase weapons for the contras when Reagan was President an Ollie North was in the basement.
        For those that actually do not believe what I say, but research what I say Google or YouTube Just Say Mena, cocaine, and Clintons.

      • John Baron Miller

        Dirty to the bone? JTFC….you can’t be serious, can you??? People I call thugs? Shut up kid. You know nothing. Do you believe every single right wing lie and conspiracy theory out there? People like you are the reason we ended up with Bush in 2001 and 2005 and the reason we could end up with Trump the sociopath. You believe right wing lies just like the idiot repubes do and you serve the same master. SMH

      • Swami22

        There are none so blind as those who refuse to open their eyes. But you know the truth. You use your evasive non talking points while ignoring all the evidence pointing to a puppet of a plutocracy and a couple that should be in prison instead of trying to steal the presidency.
        It is easier to fool people. Than to tell them they’ve been fooled.
        We came back from 60 pts down. The corporate-owned press was so scared they announced her presumptive nomination the day before the most popular state in the Union voted so much really chickenshit stuff you did and you have the balls to call yourself Democrats.

        Well you certainly aren’t looking up Hillary’s evil crap so you won’t look up the definition of democrat either.

        But a Democrat is an advocate for democracy not a shill for Hillary.

      • SuperWit1

        What horse shit this article is. I worked as a Precinct worker at a voting poll in California, and I watched voter suppression and fraud happen right in front of my eyes! The man in charge was responsible for 17 different polling locations. He came to mine and tried to give me false information about how to deal with NPP ballots. We got into an argument. He knew that I was right and left! This article is a desperate attempt to dupe the uneducated. Anyone that would believe this shit is an idiot. I can see that their a lot of idiots here.

      • The Klandidate

        Are you really claiming Sanders got more votes?

      • Swami22

        Are you really suggesting that you took even one look at the exit polls which prove Bernie DID get more votes? Every state that did not stifel the vote or use archaic voting machines that a 9th grader could hack voted for Bernie in a landslide. Our candidate had a platform, not platitudes.

        Your candidate should wear flip-flops instead of pumps with her pant suits! And her pantsuit might be blue, but her panties are blood. red.

      • Chris19741949

        So why didn’t you immediately call the police or the CA Secretary of State, scream “voter fraud” from the skies? If you did none of this, then you are an accomplice, darlin.

      • Chase Kenyon

        Well said Jeanie White. You and I seem to be the voice of educated and informed citizens as was planned by the founders. Take a look at the posts I have made here and other places about the adamant folks not doing due dilligence research on a topic as important as who is going to be president and lead the Free World as they say. I would welcome you to my friends list on FB. As one of the Engineers who helped develop DARPAnet now the world wide web/internet I have often ranted about how folks don’t use it. Heck you don’t even need to be an SQL (structured query language) programmer to access the knowledge of the world that we worked so hard to make available to the world.

      • Jeanie White

        Thanks, Chase. I rarely post anything like that due to only having a tiny phone, and my keyboard is always hacked, I just give up, usually.
        This issue inspired me. I need to get wifi and be on my laptop, I suppose. But at my family’s home, trying to settle an estate.

        I am alternately outraged,then depressed , at the current state of affairs in our land, and in the DNC.
        #DemExited, but still have hope for a miracle, somehow, I cannot fathom either cadidate as POTUS, am waiting to see if a lawsuit makes progress, not completely sold on Stein, either.
        Most destressing is the the falling in line behind HRC, of those who should well know better, and how easily they are diverted to the source rather than content of her emails.
        I will stop here,and go walk my dog These week she has been a bit neglected.
        Thanks for the lift.

      • Mike Shortland

        @2% variance from exit polls is the definition basically of election fraud occured

      • Mike Shortland

        ummm whaaaa . she hasnt polled in any poll not already caught being biased an unscientific in monthes man where have you been . she is down nationally like 6 points now . an jill is up 68% an is almost tied in the polls afte ronly 3 weeks of actual coverage of her
        dont push a shit candidate whos a neoliberal an then blame us ur shit candidate cant win

      • The Klandidate

        I hope you get the Donald Trump you have been dreaming of……. Good luck!!

      • The Klandidate

        Care to rethink your position here? Have you checked polls recently? It’s only been 10 days …. 538 gives her more than a 90% chance of winning.

      • Swami22

        Her? You mean Jill xv yes?

      • Chris19741949

        Darlin, what alternate universe do you live in? Stein is not almost “tied” with anyone…LOL, sweetie, come back to earth.

      • Nodella

        They are Clinton voters, don’t expect them to know anything.

      • The Klandidate

        Oh please….tell me all you “know”…. Go ahead and tell me how many Democratic Socialists we have at the local and state level of government today. And go ahead and tell me one thing Bernie Sanders could ever get done with a Republican controlled House and Senate. One thing.

      • Chase Kenyon

        In the past he has been instrumental in the side lines and in front of the house and senate in getting things done for us Veterans. Especially we disabled Veterans. I am proud of the help he and NH’s own Jeanne Shaheen have given to veterans including this one personally.
        He is known to those who really know what happens in DC like MSNBC O’Donnell and Anderson Cooper, to be the master of getting opposite camps to work together to get things done. He and Jeanne have done wonderful things on behalf of us Veterans.

      • The Klandidate

        I am retired Army and 80% disability percentage, and I agree with you. We must be able to see the middle ground and not be tied to extreme positions. Hillary is able to do these things as well.

      • Lefty Blitzer

        The middle ground will get us nowhere, just deeper into the hole we’re in now. What you, and other Dems, consider “middle ground” is getting further right year after year. YOU, and those who think like you, are really the problem.

      • John Baron Miller

        America is middle ground. Obviously you have never been in charge of anything in your life. Do you really think you can win anything or accomplish anything by being the left’s version of Donald Trump? Guess again.

      • Swami22

        Do you really think you are getting anywhere with your insults and false logic and misrepresentations of the truth. You don’t realize that we’ve been dealing with you, and people just as rude, insulting, inaccurate, and disingenuous as you, since Bernie declared. It didn’t work when he was 50 points behind, it didn’t work when he caught up to her, and it didn’t work when voting machines were hacked and she stole the nomination, and it won’t work if she is the candidate rigged to run against Trump.

        We told you. But you insulting neoliberals who either don’t KNOW or don’t care that she is a pathological liar and a cocaine distributor, and that she’s crooked, and is simply a puppet for the oligarchy; who have an oversized view of their intellect and research powers, are just too thick to get it.

      • Patricia P. Tursi

        Hillary is a traitor according to the newly released emails that show Saudi Arabia directing Benshazi decisions. She is under investigation for racketeering.

      • John Baron Miller

        LMAO….really? Wow, that would be news if it were true!

      • Patricia P. Tursi

        http://therealnews.com/t2/component/content/article/525-gar-smith/2735-hillarys-email-bombshell-saudis-financed-the-benghazi-attack Can’t find the original source..this refers to the funding coming from Saudi Arabia… another site supports the funding but not the “direction” http://niagarafallsreporter.com/hillary-benghazi-saudi-connection/ Benghazi emails were released to RT. It was reported by Republicans that she has refused marine guards, but could not verify on emails. I overstated the ‘directions” and should have checked it out rather than taking the word

      • John Baron Miller

        Like I said, that would be news if it were actually true!

      • Swami22

        We aren’t worried about your candidate. She’s so DIRTY that even Trump is more appealing!

      • Swami22

        News flash. She is so DIRTY she has to take a shower after taking a bath. And in November she’ll take another one

      • John Baron Miller

        Yeah sure….

      • Chris19741949

        Truly? How fascinating…just how would SA have “directed” Benghazi, darlin? What did they “direct”? And racketeering? Do you even know what that is? Cite your source, Patricia…or stay out of right-wing looney tunes conspiracy blogs.

      • Swami22

        The only thing you have to do to believe that she doesn’t have blood on your hands is to ignore all the evidence. You want a link? Lol! Why? Anyone who is actually a sinking American will do the research for themselves. Your insults are as obvious as your intellect.

      • John Baron Miller

        BTW, your man Trump has recently been shown to be involved in Trafficking of Persons, specifically young women from European countries. Starting to sound a bit like forced prostitution, doesn’t it?

        http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/08/donald-trump-model-management-illegal-immigration

      • Patricia P. Tursi

        And why do you make the assumption that I am a Trump supporter…just because I have always been against the Clinton mafia?

      • Swami22

        You were starting to sound desperate a long time ago.

      • John Baron Miller

        What?

      • Swami22

        The Contra coke came in to Mena Arkansas. Her and Slick Willie had millions in offshore accounts at the same time Hillary said they were dead broke.
        “The Mena Connection” is just one of the many videos on YouTube that cover the Clintons ties to organized crime and the CIA/DEA ties to organized crime. Only a fool, or someone with dirt or blood on their hands, would try to push this Evil Woman on us as president

      • Swami22

        Yeah go with that. Just don’t expect us to go for that.

      • John Baron Miller

        I could give a shit what you go for. seriously.

      • Alberto Muñoz

        It appears that as a veteran, which I am also proud of being, no information about Senator Sander’s work for us veterans has reached you. Here is link to the government page on him. Just for starter…

        http://www.sanders.senate.gov/legislation/issue/veterans

        If you read it, you, as have many of us proud veterans, will also #feeltheBern!!!

      • John Baron Miller

        He’s not a candidate for POTUS, but thanks anyway.

      • Mike Shortland

        HAHAHAHAHa more fear . how sad . do me a favor go back to your candidate an tell them tpp will start riots . killing the epa will start riots . trying to go more right on abortion will cause riots an pushing fracking will kill the environment an cause riots . see how long it takes you to be the next close “assoc” who dies . paid media presence opinion is unwanted an uneeded

      • The Klandidate

        Loosen the the tinfoil hat….and tell Alex Jones “hi” for all of us sane people…

      • Swami22

        Put the plug in the jug… And tell Bill O’Reilly “hi” for all of us who trust our eyes and not our government.

      • John Baron Miller

        Bill O’reilly is a total clown and I am no fan of Faux news or any repube / right wing media. Repubes are everything that is wrong with this country, so I can only guess you have mistaken me for someone else.

      • Swami22

        No. No mistake. The mistake is on your part. The mistake is that you think that you are intelligent and your words indicate that you don’t think we are. Your words tell us much more than you think. You could not have received the clearance or the training that I had. No way. You wouldn’t have washed out because you would never have gotten in.
        But please continue trying to convince people that you don’t think have any intelligence that they are wrong. And keep using insults to sway our opinion. People like you are just another reason Bernie was able to come back from 50 points down.

      • John Baron Miller

        I would have washed out and I don’t have your clearance? LMAO….Guess again. You know less than nothing and are proving just how stupid you are. Why are you here throwing feces again? What do you think you have to gain at this point other than looking dumb?

      • Swami22

        Body count is now over 50, and includes ex-CIA Director William Casey, who admitted to the Contra affair, and you about the clintons involvement in smuggling cocaine into the USA at the same time the clintons were pushing for three strikes and heavier penalties for crack cocaine.
        Unlike Bernie, she would have kept the profitable and oppressive War on Drugs running strong.

      • Nodella

        Well, that was complete nonsense. You must work for the HRC campaign. Your brain damage, like hers, quickly derails any train of thought. Hey, go have another seizure and call it the ice coffee you arent drinking.

      • Swami22

        So you are trying to convince people that you are convinced have brain damage to vote for your candidate?
        And you think your kindergarten insults are going to be effective?
        I’m still trying to wrap my head around the thought that you are spending all this time trying to convince people that you think have mental issues or the inability to research.
        I am again going to suggest that you put the plug in the jug and get your head out of your ask.

      • Mike Wilen

        We are ranked 34 in the world for healthcare. Look at the Democratic socialist countries in the world and compare. And had Bernie been allowed a real primary we would have elected up and down the ticket. People were inspired. Clinton is now cancelling event for lack of interest. Bernie is still filling stadiums.

      • The Klandidate

        I’m not arguing against socialized healthcare, I’m simply asking a question. Why are you deflecting?

      • Mike Wilen

        Deflecting what? Ask the question.

      • The Klandidate

        Read above…..

      • Swami22

        Says the guy who ignores facts and throws insults as his rebuttal…

      • Chris19741949

        Really? Where?

      • Swami22

        Duh, gee Tennessee, I don’t think this guy could possibly be serious.
        Where didn’t he?
        I guess that’s why some people thought Hillary would win. All people like this had to do I guess is close their eyes real hard and stick their head in the sand and wave your arms backwards and people will believe you.

      • Lefty Blitzer

        And you think $hillary can get anything done with the same Congress??? Tell me. One thing. Come on, one thing.

      • John Baron Miller

        Shillary? smdh….children like you need to pull your heads out of your fourth point of contact every once in awhile and take a deep breath of reality.

      • Swami22

        The reality is that HRC and Slick Willie are so involved with the CIA’s continuing criminal heroin and cocaine distribution operation, (as well as profiting from misery in Haiti, and black Americans in prison, and a slush fund they use to extort money from nations interested in multi billion dollar arms sales )that should they actually steal entry into the White House it will be renamed the Dirty White House.

      • John Baron Miller

        Please up your meds. Your mother is worried about you.

      • Swami22

        Oh! Another smooth attempt to influence us and Win Friends. How so very intelligent of you!

      • Swami22

        I’ll tell you one thing Lefty. Your name ought to be Righty. Or Wrongly.

      • Swami22

        Congress won’t be controlled by Republicans any more than you kindergarten insults will be effective in controlling us. Like you’ve been told we aren’t buying your fascist puppet, and Mena coke will not go away anymore than Whitewater will.
        Mena Contras coke may not have been of interest to Janet Reno but it’s of interest to us.

      • Zak

        Clinton is pretty much the reason we have Trump in the first place, Clinton doesn’t have any support of moderates or conservatives. She’s even disliked by a great deal of leftists, it’s pretty much rolled out a carpet for anyone that doesn’t slightly resemble a crooked career politician to get as much support as they need to strongly oppose her, regardless of intelligence.

      • John Baron Miller

        You are really not paying attention at this point….

      • Zak

        Paying attention to what exactly? I’d say both parties supporters equally have their heads in the sand or somewhere else, as far as support for their candidates go. Hillary will try to do her best to get the media to attack Trump and mince his words. But I don’t get the “great femenist progressive” support when there’s documented proof of her laughing about clearing a rapist of charges on a technicality of victim blaming. Now I know, you’ll pull the “it’s her job, and everyone’s entitled to a good defense”, but to laugh it up on the phone with friends and almost sound proud of it means your a piece of garbage.

      • John Baron Miller

        Grab her by the P***Y. His word. He has the best words.

      • Zak

        Yeah, he offended some folks, so let’s just ignore covering Hillarys nightmare ideas of foreign policy and trade. Not to mention a double standard with her husband and Hillary victim blaming his victims of sexual assault. So yeah, pay attention…

      • AnotherDan

        Didn’t Bernie Beat Hillary in the states that Trump beat Hillary? Ill have to check.

      • Patricia P. Tursi

        I wouldn’t vote for HRC if you paid me a million dollars

      • Mike Shortland

        so ur saying killing of bussiness an building a wall is worse then dropping bombs on inocent woman an children in decidely uneeded an unwarranted interventions in others foreign soveriegns ? not to mention the evidence an thinking used to move us into those things was also precontrolled by her so she could use as a reason ie. the sarin gas she sent to syria ?? the protestors an military she sent to lybia ?? or venzuela ? I think not . trump will be as impotent a prez as he is husband . Shillary will kill millions in her attempts to pls future donors to her fraud of a charity . #Jillbe4Shills

      • Swami22

        No…. We are saying that there is no way no how that two of the most criminal people backed by the most criminal people will enter the White House by getting our vote.
        Should Trump win it will be because far too many so-called Democrats voted for a candidate backed by the plutocrats.
        By the way anyone who has the classified clearance is told and taught and trained to handle classified material as classified material. But your incompetent candidate couldn’t even do that.

      • Mike Wilen

        And it will be your cheating corporate whore candidate’s fault

      • The Klandidate

        Up the meds and try to come to grips with the fact that we live in a representative democracy. People like you gave us 8 years of George Bush. Smh

      • Mike Wilen

        Please. The reason the Democratic Party is collapsing understand its own weight is lead headed fools wjo could mot embrace change if it killed you. You want for 8 years of the most corrupt politician in the history of the country because tou are not man enough to embrace change. I am a progressive. You are a fool.

      • The Klandidate

        You have no idea who I am, and sadly, who you are. You are the fool here, and that is readily apparent. I hope you enjoy your trump vote. That will show me….right? A real progressive knows that true and lasting change does not happen overnight. You are living in some bubble where you actually think Bernie won, and that he could get anything done with today’s GOP controlling the house and senate. Seriously, you are clueless, and I’m being as nice as I can at this point.

      • Swami22

        Not only are we not Clueless but we are not powerless against putches, power grabs by the plutocracy or people who from the beginning didn’t talk about a platform and a vision. From the beginning your reason to have us both for her with so that a Republican wooden get into the White House God if one does it’s going to be because too many people refuse to look at the evidence, much like 9/11.

      • Trump can get a maximum of 9% of electoral votes. He isn’t a threat and never was more than an embarrassingly flawed faux-opponent of Clinton.

    • Darknut

      Congrats on your big win last week! All that free negative campaigning you did on behalf of Trump paid off!

    • Darknut

      Wasserman Shultz didn’t magically force dems to vote for Hillary in the primary. She won. Berners won’t take responsibility for that. Now we have trump so Berners got their wish I guess.

  • She cried for Moe Moe Moe

    Regardless, Godzillary is a parasite and Bernie is a chump for bowing to her.

    • The Klandidate

      What are you babbling about? Let me guess….you support a guy who has 5 children from 3 different wives, covets his own daughter, has gone bankrupt 4 times, doesn’t think a judge born in Indiana can preside over one of his 3500 lawsuits, is an over racist according to Paul Ryan, and totally unhinged. Is that about right?

      • She cried for Moe Moe Moe

        You guessed wrong dipshit

      • The Klandidate

        Ralph Nader? He likely ensured a Dumbya Bush Presidency…..great work! Thank you! That was a stellar 8 years for this country…am I right? But by all means, you vote Green or whatever nonsense you latch onto this cycle..

  • leemd46

    I am glad Debbie Wasserman Schultz is gone. She wasn’t good for the party and she wasn’t fair to Bernie’s campaign, but with that said It is time we truly get on-board the revolution train and vote NOT FOR HILLARY BUT FOR AMERICA! Unless we really weren’t sincere in our desire that change be made in Washington that Bernie has steadfastly supported. It that is the case, then stay home, or vote green, or even pull that lever for Trump for any of those actions will assure that he is the next occupant of the Whitehouse. I hope you will link arms with me and say NEVER TRUMP!

    • Mike Wilen

      Fuck Hillary and her gang of corporate whore sellouts

  • Joe Calise

    This is not definitive proof you dumbass. Those emails that got released are. Absolute proof that they were holding sanders back, suppressing votes, shuttijg down polling centers switching and de-regostering people party affiliations. Only reason he won as many as he did is not because she didnt try hard enough to cheat, she just waited too long to see him as a threat.

    • Stephan Fitzgerald Taylor

      The only thing the emails show is that the DNC didn’t like Sanders much and liked him less after March.

  • Seth O’Bannion

    Your inappropriate usage of statistics is almost criminal. For starters, most of the states in the south, where Clinton won strongly and the black population is larger, were in the first phases of the election. Had Bernie had greater exposure, like if DWS hadn’t all but killed debates, then Bernie could have picked up a few percentage points there, and the ‘momentum’ narrative would have been more on Bernie’s side.

    Second, you are assuming that the emails contain ALL of the wrongdoing that had occurred. I don’t know about you, but I generally try to minimize the amount of illegal and unethical behavior I put in permanent written form. Truth be told, these emails are likely just the tip of the iceberg. We know that there were moles in the Sanders camp, we know that DWS was pressuring at least MSNBC to stop calling them out on rigging the primary.

    • Mike Shortland

      msnbc an cnn . had todd pushing people directly an hayes too

  • Nodella

    Strange, the DNC emails state otherwise but keep pretending you’re an actual journalist.

  • Daniel OMeara

    You’re an absolute moron and/or shill for the Clinton machine. If you’re going to write an article that claims to be the final word on the subjec t of disproving the fact that this electiion was rigged, the least you could do was to at least MENTION the actual eviudence of legitimate voter suppression and election fraud rather than focus solely on the issue of the DNC’s lack of impartiality, present your opinion on how the emails failto prove that impartiality, and then present a bunch of statistics that are based off of data that was captured after the actual rigging occurred. This is ridiculously inept “journalism” and it’s particularly heinous because it’s written in a way that is insulting and dismissive to those of use who have bothered to actually do the research.

    Just a basic overview of the ACTUAL rigging of this election:

    The difference in the exit polling far exceeds the thresholds our own state department uses to declare foreign elections fraudulent and refuse to certify them. These discrepancies only occur in polling locations with machines that fail modern hacking tests and universally show a major preference to Clinton. In fact, hand-counted precincts favored Bernie overwhelmingly throughout the election. For instance, “Sanders led hand-counted precincts in Massachusetts by 17%, while machine counted precincts went to Clinton by 2%.” (https://richardcharnin.wordpress.com/2016/04/29/election-fraud-my-response-to-joshua-holland/) As to the accuracy of our exit polls, the Republican side of the race was completely accurate throughout the primary and even the pre-election polling significantly points to fraud on the Democratic side.

    There is also overwhelming statistical evidence that the fraud was accomplished via adjustment of how votes were counted for Hillary and Bernie. Hacks are accomplished generally by making candidates’ votes count as something other than 1.0 votes. For instance, it’s likely that the machines in this election were adjusted to something resembling Bernie’s votes counting as 0.9 and Hillary’s counting as 1.1. There are two studies that demonstrate unquestionably that this method was used. First, when tracking how the votes were distributed as additional votes were counted throughout the day, the numbers demonstrate that Bernie dropped in the percentage share of votes while Hillary rose at consistent rates. When charted on a graph, it looks like this: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10153552441907811&set=a.10153552441842811.1073741831.608172810&type=3&theater This could only possibly be explained by voting machine hacking. The statistical probability of this occurring naturally is absolutely absurd. Second, in all locations that produced questionable results in the vote, Hillary’s share of the votes increased according to the number of votes cast. Once again, this phenomenon seen with this consistency can only be explained by hacked machines.

    Outside of statistics, we have additional evidence of the machines producing false vote counts. In the documentary UNCOUNTED: The True Story of the California Primary, a poll worker who independently made sure to educate herself on all the various rules and regulations that were skipped or misrepresented in training took video showing the ballots run through a machine and the receipts showing the counts. ttps://youtu.be/D5ugmNoanx8?t=28m52s Long story short, this poll worker showed how all the Democratic crossover ballots were counted by the machine as non-partisan ballots, erasing their votes in the Democratic presidential primary. This is clear evidence that the machine miscounted the votes, negatively impacting Bernie.

    The Chicago Board of Elections was presented with testimony from multiple observers of their audit claiming fraud and they took no action. https://youtu.be/OSNTauWPkTc?t=24m48s Countless voters in New York who were purged or had their party changed were able to demonstrate records proving they should have been registered Democrats with many producing copies of government forms containing forged signatures, something that could only be attributed to deliberate human intervention. It goes on and on.

  • Living_without_a_purpose

    For the Facebook user Joe Richie who said “If you support a third party candidate you’re giving your vote to Trump.
    If you write someone in you’re giving your vote to Trump.
    If you don’t vote at all you’re giving your vote to Trump.
    You ARE a Trump supporter. We should treat you that way and you need to come to personal terms with the fact that that’s what you are.
    We’re done with you.”

    Let me offer this as a rebuttal, because I think this needs to be said.

    1. First of all, supporting a third party is NOT in anyways voting for Trump. In a democratic election, people are free to vote based upon whose party platform they agree with. The same applies to a third party candidate. So your assertion is based upon ignorance and is a false dichotomy.

    2. As I said before, some people are very upset with our choices; especially considering how both are not well liked. So once again, this is an idiotic assertion.

    3. Not voting – which I do not encourage – is not helping the opposition. If your candidate is so weak, that you have to make up such a bald faced lie, it’s quite obvious your candidate doesn’t have a snowball’s chance in hell. This is just ignorant on so many levels.

    And as for the last statement “You ARE a Trump supporter. We should treat you that way and you need to come to personal terms with the fact that that’s what you are.
    We’re done with you”

    That’s just plain delusional. I can only suspect that this individual is using baseless allegations because of either anger, or hatred of the fact that many people don’t want to support whomever he is voting for.

    In short, this person is an idiot for saying something so idiotic. That is all.

  • Traucins

    So that morning roll call that HE won??? The do-over? #NeverHillary #GTHDNC

  • Jeanie White
  • Jeanie White
    • “justicenewsnetwork” is completely fraudulent, you gullible fool.

      • Jeanie White

        We will see, and, you did NOT read it, so your comment is idiotic, hope you can breathe with your head in the sand.

  • Paul Dinberg
  • Victoria Bowman
  • Gregory Scott Baisden

    That this dipshit apologist for HRC evokes the weak tea deflection of “conspiracy theorist” in his second paragraph tells us all we need to know about his tactics and his imperatives, the rest of his argument whitewash (or is that whitewater?). As we all know, the term “conspiracy theorist” was coined by the CIA to defuse continuing questions about the JFK assassination (still unresolved, though now demonstrated as an inside black op) and subsequently employed to stifle critical thinking and analysis whenever further anti-democratic operations come to light (Iran-contra, anyone?). Which stifling shines through the several Hilbots here ignoring every shred of objection to their utterly compromised, deceitful, Goldwater-nursed “moderate” RepubliCON in all but name war-mongering “internationalist” Wall Street shill. The point for me is that we have witnessed the first viable Third Party chance in a century, and I for one endorse running up the center past both reprehensible Trump and indefensible HRC. Bottom line, this all makes for fascinating analysis and speculation, and I trust that we each will do as we must: vote our conscience, be it “tactical” or “principled.” For my part, the stolen “Democratic” primary (if you don’t see that, you’re negligent in your vigilance and research) impels me against supporting a phony Democrat (actually, as mentioned, a Goldwater-nursed “moderate” war-profiteering RepubliCON in all but name) who opportunistically cites civil freedoms that she consistently undercuts (including her selection of a “ProLife” running mate) while contemptuously subverting democracy (as amply demonstrated from MA to CA to Philly — not to mention numerous international incidents) while acting as — and courting — “moderate” as well as war-profiteering “hawk” RepubliCONs. Thus, I will vote the strength of my Progressive (not “liberal,” not “socialist,” not “communist.” and certainly not fascist) convictions toward clearing the stables of this corporate capitalist filth, rather than capitulating to further status quo quid pro quo shadow “governance.” And, yes, I will say as much. With no expectation of “convincing” anyone, and with no purpose of denying anyone’s sacrosanct choice (or, vehemence notwithstanding, anyone’s perspective). In all seriousness: Blesséd Be. May we all meet somewhere not surrounded by ramparts or razor wire.

  • Kelly Decker-Hutson

    This article is just from and for those who lick Hillary’s balls!!!!! You are fucking liars!!!!!!

  • Chewy

    The author of this article is just another Hillary Corruption Tool.

  • Jason Toothy

    Was this “article” written by a 5th “grader”? It’s hilarious that someone who shills this hard for Hillary can call their blog “forward progressives”. The author should kill himself along with all other hillary supporters.

  • Bret Keeney

    The body of evidence being shown is just more evidence of what we have been trained to accept. Our media, our political processes, electoral laws have all become tools and mechanisms that are bought and sold.
    To marginalize, ignore and discount the erosion, corruption and bias in favor of political expediency out of a false fear is merely an indictment of our collective character.
    This is where we are…this is all were capable of given the influence of media and corrupt frame work we’ve allowed and accepted.
    2 candidates with 20% approval ratings…
    Sad silliness…….

  • Xavier Lopez
  • OldCorpsEd

    If it wasn’t rigged it was nigged.

    • Mike Shortland

      not cool

      • OldCorpsEd

        I realize that, and I agree (apologize); but I couldn’t resist the pun on the main differential of the rigging and results: lying to, fooling, and using black voters.

  • Heather Beaudry

    You have confused two important events. To read 100 pages on specific ways in which the 2016 Democratic Primary was rigged, go to https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B5O9I4XJdSISNzJyaWIxaWpZWnM/view

    The issue with the DNC is that Senator Sanders and thousands of his volunteers could tell that the DNC was working against him (e.g., refusing to give him voter information — that had already been given to the Clinton campaign — without a fight). The DNC leaks showed that the top officials, such as DWS, were anything but impartial, which is a DNC requirement of officials working with primary campaigns.

    I was looking forward to an intelligent discussion but you missed the main points entirely.

  • Jodie Dodson

    “Wasn’t Rigged”???
    That’s A Crock.
    It was “RIGGED” in just about every possible way that they could rig it.

    Bet you wish you could have kept your big mouth shut now.

  • 1deirdre1

    you focus entirely on the DNC email scandal and assume that is the only issue. What about all the folks who found themselves unregistered on arrival at the polls even after confirming their registration status online? What about the accusations of vote flipping by the machines? What about the discrepancies between the exit polls and the results which were big enough that if it happened in any other country we would have UN observers. What about running out of some kinds of ballots leaving some UNABLE to vote for the candidate of their choice or even having their votes discarded? Yeah there’s a LOT more to this than just the DNC not remaining impartial. There will always be a taint on a Clinton presidency and if she wins it won’t be because folks are voting FOR her but because folks are voting AGAINST Trump

  • Vicki Jones Pierce

    Wasted breath. She threw them all under the bus today. Guilt now confirmed.

  • Lynda Colter-Bergh

    When you add in the purged votes, the disqualified votes, the massive exit poll discrepancies (that were ended before California because they were proving electionfraud), Bernie would have won. That’s not counting rigged machines that were proven to flip votes -proven. Then, there was the suppressed votes because she was declared the winner before the largest Bernie state…In other words, your article had more holes in it than Clinton’s mail server defenses (cause they keep changing). Poor reporting of the facts! Propoganda 101.

  • Brian Brewer

    You can’t and did not explain the exit poll discrepancies. That’s the only proof I need, and that was backed up by the media stopping the exit polls when they were questioned. The people really aren’t that stupid.

  • Thankyou Allen Clifton for warning us that you would provide no evidence to support your claim that Clinton won fair and square.

  • Phil

    Is this a hillary superpac site? They are selling a lot of bullcrap.

  • Ben Virden

    I love that this John Baron Miller Shill uses Trumps Alias’ as his discussion name smdh

  • Patricia P. Tursi

    Well, Allen Clifton, I guess you know more than Stanford University, Trust Vote and others who say Bernie won the election. But taking a look at the tremendous crowds he generated and the paucity of Clintons crowds, is proof enough for me. But we’ll let the law suits determine.

  • MKEPackFan

    Forget about Trump and Bernie. Hillary is not good. Why did she lie about the server? The FBI director noted she lied about its existence. Why did Combetta (stone tear) delete evidence knowing full well it was under a preservation order (it’s a crime to destroy evidence and also a crime to destroy government documents)? Why did he seek to alter the email addresses (a crime to alter government documents)? He decided on his own and allegedly with no instructions from anyone to alter and destroy documents? There is no current proof of wrong doing, but it looks fishy as hell. If everyone voted for a third party, we could get rid of BOTH of them.

    Remember this too: Al Capone was never jailed for murder, corruption, or any other crimes. Every court found him to be innocent. Does anyone honestly believe he was? He was brought down with tax evasion. The system kept Bush out of trouble. It is keeping Hillary safe too.

  • Zak

    Calling all Sanders supporters conspiracy theorists for him getting an unfair shake by the DNC with a smug, condescending tone, is a GREAT way to gain support for the candidate you support.

  • Rosanne Licciardi

    You might want to think twice about thanking for for sharing the article. I shared it to myself, privately, because I found that what you said was hard to digest. I wanted to give myself a second chance.

  • Ray Barclay

    What a load of bullshit! It was rigged! I voted at the same polling place only months before the NYS primary, but when I went to vote for Bernie Sanders in the primary, lo & behold they had no record of me. I have been a registered Democrat since 1992, but all of a sudden I don’t exist? Bernie is the best choice! Hillary & Trump are both a joke!

  • David Williamson

    You are pulling numbers from a primary that has been shown to be questionable as proof? You are joking right? Your article is as transparent as your bias for Clinton. So reading your so called discussion on talking points is ridiculous as your attempt to make the rigging of the election to be.

  • Darris Hawks

    The country that murders people in the street with impunity and regularly rigs other countries’ elections couldn’t *possibly* have election rigging, you far-left conspiracy theorists!

  • doug

    Boy, we really need to stop discussing this. The worst and most damaging aspects of Clinton’s campaign against Sanders were from smears, which is nothing new in politics and certainly not corrupt or illegal. But the fact is, Clinton had years to cultivate the PoC, versus Sanders’ several months, and neither Sanders nor his campaign performed well enough to knock her off. He had to be perfect and he wasn’t. On the other hand, his objective as originally stated was completely achieved. On education, on TPP, on income inequality, Clinton has come around to his point of view. Will it stick? I’m not sure, but he seems impressed enough to heartily endorse Clinton. Can we Bernie supporters just go with it? Can Clinton supporters just let it go?

  • Doro Reeves

    Election Justice USA, a national non-partisan team of seasoned election integrity experts, attorneys, statisticians and journalists, wrote a 100-page report full of EVIDENCE that proves the primary election on the Democrat side was NOT legit.

    Because this group was non-partisan, it seems to me that their assessment ought to be conclusive. Anyone who denies this ugly reality has got an agenda of some sort. And whatever that agenda is, it is anti-democratic.

  • rucognizant1

    Bullshit! Nothing to do with the emails I watched the theft proceed on the ground, BEGINNING WITH MY OWN DELEGATE STATUS. I VOLUNTEERED CAUCUS, THE CAUCUS SEC WROTE IT DOWN & SENT IT IN……AUGUSTA HEAD OF ME DEMS FAILED TO RECORD IT. SOON AFTER EVEN THO ME CAUCUS VOTED FOR BERNIE Jeramy Kennedy left Maine & joined HILLERY’S CAMPAIGN. I saw similar actions in IOWA etc…..

  • Peter Dada

    For the last time… haha Thats funny! Im sure the DNC nor their failed candidate and their corporate owners think the lack of media coverage is not a form of “rigging”? Its transparent how broken our elections are. Our voting Rights, Habeas Corpus, Civil Rights are being taken right in front of us, in real time by the corrupt Establishment. I thought they were suppose to be representing the people, to be a checks and balances, protecting them, I mean us, not exploiting us. But I could be wrong and completely off base… What do you think… I need a drink, this shit stinks!

    https://www.democracynow.org/2016/11/29/bernie_sanders_i_was_stunned_by

  • Mando Pando

    I wouldn’t say it was rigged. What I would say is that Bernie had to fight an up hill battle against the DNC which didn’t really do much to help Sanders. I mean Sanders was more trusted than Clinton overall. Sanders didn’t really have any dirt or controversy on him compared to Clinton. Bernie Sanders also got zero media coverage from any of the major news outlets, which worked against Sanders, but Trump and Clinton got all the attention. Not to mention that in Brooklyn-for example- those independent voters that voted for Bernie, their votes weren’t counted because “they didn’t register as democrat at the required time.” -_- not to mention that Sanders was more popular among women than Clinton.
    Bernie wasn’t even given the chance, and the states that swung in Trump’s favor could’ve went to Sanders if he was in the primary election. But we will never know of course, because Clinton destroyed the opportunity.

  • Cummerbund

    Excellent analysis and tough medicine for the handful of Bernie Dead-enders.

    It needs to be said that Bernie never said he was robbed and supported Hillary all the way because he is a not an evil idiot who can’t tell the difference between a centrist progressive like Hillary and a total fascist right-wing monster like Trump.

    Bernie was robbed types tend to lose their voice when you bring up their man never said he was robbed. Or they dismiss him as having made a deal with “the establishment.”

  • Jose Smith

    Thank you, Mr Clifton. I really appreciate a lot of your material. Im a Bernie supporter, but held zero ill will for Hillary. I dont know that I understand these numbers though, in complete context. I get your relevance to the diversity of the states as a whole, but shouldn’t we go down another level and lay out how those same segments voted for each candidate in each state? I just think that your derivation of the data at this level is missing the key data, that next level of showing how did they actually vote. Im not arguing fir either side, but would be curious what those numbers show too.

  • Josh

    It’s interesting to see people arguing back then. Before Donna Brazille admitted to giving $hillary debate questions ahead of time, before bankrupt Drumpf had his finger on the nuclear launch button and defunded anything “social” about our society. Only the rich are prospering. The Zionist bankers, the “banks too big to fail” Bernie wanted to fight have their way with both Drumpf and $hillary, and getting money out of politics remains our #1 need if we’re ever going to care for the bottom 50% (on the economic spectrum) of the populace.