Fox News is the Fear-Mongering Propaganda Machine That’s Dividing This Nation

hasselbeck-fox-newsIt never ceases to amaze me how so many conservatives still believe in the laughable Fox News motto of “fair and balanced.”  I think that’s honestly one of the things that bothers me so much about Fox News.  It’s not just their trash journalism, or blatant misinformation, it’s that they honestly try to portray themselves as the lone beacon of truth.

Which is, of course, absolutely ridiculous.

Fox News has done more to divide this nation than pretty much any other entity I can think of.  It’s what the network thrives on.  I honestly believe there are meetings that are held at the network where people sit around in a room brainstorming ideas of how to link just about everything negative that’s going on in the world to President Obama or Democrats.

Let’s just look at a few of the stories I’ve covered recently about the utter nonsense that has been said on the network:

I’ll go ahead and stop there.  And those stories aren’t even all of them.  Those are just a few I picked out over the last 4-6 months.  

I didn’t even get into how fact-checking site Politifact found that, in the comments they’ve investigated from the network, Fox News only told the truth 18 percent of the time.  Or when one of their contributors, Lauren Ashburn, said that Fox News shouldn’t be held accountable for conspiracy theories or misinformation pushed on the network.

Yet many of the people on Fox News have the gall to claim that President Obama is the one dividing Americans.

All these people do is divide.

Pretty much every feature show they have from dusk till late evening is nothing more than shows filled with conservatives spending 90 percent of the time bashing anything and everything to do with Democrats and President Obama.

And I wouldn’t even have as much of a problem with it if they would just admit to the fact that they’re a shill for the Republican party.

But they don’t.

Instead they push their usual propaganda that they’re the only news source anyone can trust, while being nothing more than a blatant propaganda machine for the GOP.

The real Fox News motto shouldn’t be “fair and balanced,” it should be “we tell conservatives what they want to hear.”

Allen Clifton

Allen Clifton is a native Texan who now lives in the Austin area. He has a degree in Political Science from Sam Houston State University. Allen is a co-founder of Forward Progressives and creator of the popular Right Off A Cliff column and Facebook page. Be sure to follow Allen on Twitter and Facebook, and subscribe to his channel on YouTube as well.


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  • mmmmmmm

    Thanks, this is great food for thought. Some of the problems Fox finds with President Obama are kind of ridiculous. Pink shirt = PR failure? *facepalm* Yet Republicans need to have a voice in mainstream media, and I find it hard to believe that left-leaning sites haven’t fabricated information, or attacked Republican leaders.
    In terms of political division, I think it may have something to do with the way Democrats and Republicans form stereotypes of each other. I feel like many liberal news sites and satirical pieces created Republican stereotypes off Fox’s news reporting because it was in the spotlight.
    Guys, I can tell you from personal experience that we are NOT a group of shotgun-wielding, bible studying rednecks from Tennessee who kill babies and hate gays or whatever the hell you think we are. As a matter of fact, I’m a republican and an atheist. I support abortion. I’m a feminist. I don’t dig the Keynesian Economics though.
    Please guys, can you like TRY to stop judging Republicans as a giant group of stupid crazy hillbillies who are totally different from you? Because you actually have a lot in common, if you get to know them.

    • Jo Clark

      Sorry to inform you, if you support abortion, are a feminist, and especially an atheist (I can’t tell you how many times I’ve been told if you’re liberal, you’re atheist), then you are a Democrat who has a difference with the party over economic policy.

      I suppose you could say the Republican Party is somewhat stereotyped as shotgun-wielding, bible studying rednecks from Tennessee who kill babies and hate gays … not sure where you get the “kill babies” part … but anyway, have you read the GOP Party Platform laid out this year? The GOP ***is*** a bunch of shotgun-wielding, bible-thumping rednecks who hate gays. They also hate the poor, anyone with the slightest tinge of brown skin, immigration, women’s rights, workers, labor, unions, equal rights, voter’s rights … gah, I could go on and on.

      Every single day I open my Facebook feed and refresh, and I have an extensive feed, and what I’m met with is article after article about hating gays, gays are responsible for this/that, Obama did this/that, brown-skinned people are parasites on society, the poor are another set of parasites on society, the GOP wants to get rid of all social services, let them die, the poor deserve what they get, blah blah blah.

      This is who runs your party. So no, until we see some major deviations from that party platform, and I mean genuinely see it … not for politics and pandering … then your party is going to be judged by this faction that’s running the party. This is your party and you all built it. Deal. Your party indeed IS a giant group of stupid crazy hillbillies who are totally different from the rest of us.

      The liberal/progressive view of things always wins in the end. Every piece of progress in this country has been brought about by the left. We will win again. Just a matter of time.

      • Odd Jørgensen

        bible studying?that would require reading,from what I have seen,most religitards treat the bible like most treat software TOS,they just scroll down to the bottom and click “agree”.

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    • Telly Samba

      You’re right (no pun intended). I have had some very productive discussions with Republicans and/or conservatives. Folks whose beliefs, and sometimes base values, are different from mine. Most Republicans are just like you. People with a variety of opinions and beliefs that don’t always align with their party. They respect the President and want to see him do what’s best for the nation as a whole. Many are pro choice, or stay out of the argument altogether because it doesn’t directly impact their lives. Same with firearms issues. They believe in many of the same things as I do. By having an open and honest dialog we can learn much from one another and regularly find common ground. Even when there is no common ground we can discuss what our ideas are and why we think the way we each do. You, as a well informed, opinionated, Republican, are not unique. I have a great deal of respect for anyone who takes the time to learn, form an opinion and share that opinion with the genuine hope of furthering understanding between varying opinions.

      The problem, however, lies in the fact that the pundits, politicians and other representatives chosen by those on the right are all too often, indeed, gun toting, bible thumping, hard headed, loud mouthed morons. You allow organizations like Fox News to become your mouthpiece. To represent your party on a grand scale. By allowing such organizations and individuals to make the unchallenged claim that they represent you pigeonholes all of you into a stereotype. Like it or not, we Americans just love our stereotypes. They’re great time savers…or some such shit. Until those of you who are well informed, with legitimate opinions, stop allowing these idiots to speak for you, you’re just screwed. You will be judged, you will be stereotyped and you will be disrespected. Wholly because you don’t stand against outlets like Fox. I could care less what ideology you carry, as long as you allow folks like those mentioned in the article to represent you on a massive scale then the opinions of the opposition will clearly lean towards lumping you in with them. They are your public representatives, after all. No one, regardless of party, should allow any group whose stats prove they are honest only 18 percent of the time represent them. That’s just plain dumb. Yet you allow it. Hence the negative stereotype. It really is that simple. Get rid of the lying bozos and extremists at the top of your publicity campaign and you’ll get a hell of a lot farther.

      • Jo Clark

        You bring up a great point about firearms issues, so I’ll just add one more thought to this. Everyone knows it’s pretty much a fringe segment of the Republican Party who is rabid about their guns, BUT you, as Republicans (speaking to mmmmmmm here), do not stand up against the NRA who is promoting and advocating for the worst of the worst … allowing blind folks to carry, allowing mentally ill to carry UNTIL they’ve committed a crime. Georgia’s “carry anywhere” law which allowed an innocent woman to be gunned down when some drunk idiot at a bar accidentally shot himself in the hand and it went through and hit her instead.

        We’ve all sat back for six long years while not a one of you so-called reasonable people stood up and said, no, we’re going to stop this. The NRA membership is huge. Why is there no movement to leave them and start a newer, more moderate gun organization? No, the vast majority of you just keep on sending in your hard earned cash to an organization that has been a huge participant to the crap we see in society today. All we hear is silence. Deafening silence.

        You could all do a lot to “retake” your party, but you don’t. All we see are these meager, lame efforts in Congress, and they immediately turn around and bend over to the extremists.

      • Telly Samba

        While I wholeheartedly agree with you I, personally, think that focusing on specific issues such as firearms legislation is a bit counterproductive to my point. Simply because we can point at examples across the board regarding the Republican/conservatives in America. I know many intelligent, respectable, Christians for example who strive to live the way their Christ teaches…yet they allow folks like Michelle Bachmann or Pat Robertson to speak for them. It’s my opinion that the folks on the right need to take a look at the big picture…not issue specific…regarding those who purport to represent their ideals. Until such a time as they do, and directly address their overall representation, folks like you and I will continue to stereotype them as moronic, gun toting, bible thumpers. Even when we know better. Wholly because they continue to allow the loons to speak in their stead.

        I see it more as a ‘big picture’ issue. Because of the ‘big picture’ I will continue to dismiss the opinions of the right…even when I know better. Sadly, I believe this is the root of deadlock and division. Because I, myself, fall victim to stereotyping the right I, too, contribute to the problem. While it’s to a much lesser degree than those who allow themselves to be represented by extremists, it doesn’t change the fact that I am (often subconsciously) part of the problem.

        The best I can do is point out the shortcomings of the opposition while recognizing how those shortcomings affect my own thinking in a less than positive manner. There are no innocents in this issue. We are all, currently, part of the problem. Just to varying degrees.

    • richard

      I understand your point, but Democrats have thus far not elected any of our lunatic fringe….Republicans have. When the Republican Party embraced the Tea Party your PR nightmare began. You can complain about your image being marred by redneck gun fetishists and white supremacists but the fact is, they get a hell of a lot of face time on camera. Now you have the likes of Louis Gohmert, Steve King, Michelle Bachman, making idiots out of themselves and your party almost daily. Until the Republican Party cleans house and reverts to the sensibilities and collaborative era of Eisenhower you will never gain the White House again. Republicans have come frightenly close to destroying America….instead of complain about how you’re represented in the press, you might want to think about turning blue.

    • Stephen Barlow

      “Guys, I can tell you from personal experience that we are NOT a group of shotgun-wielding, bible studying rednecks from Tennessee who kill babies and hate gays or whatever the hell you think we are. As a matter of fact, I’m a republican and an atheist. I support abortion. I’m a feminist. I don’t dig the Keynesian Economics though.Please guys, can you like TRY to stop judging Republicans as a giant group of stupid crazy hillbillies who are totally different from you? Because you actually have a lot in common, if you get to know them.”

      THANK YOU!!!!

      I so needed to laugh so hard I peed!!!

      The only lie you told is that your kind only kills babies in PRIVATE. Publicly? You rally to FORCE PREGNANCY and MANDATE CHILDBIRTH to the point of Bombings and assassinations IN CHURCH!!!!.

      but keep us all laughing there Closetman…

  • DogmaDestroys

    But President Obama IS dividing our nation!!

    Because no matter how much the conserva-fascists and religitards gripe, accuse, and blame, he continues to steadfastly REFUSE to quit being black.

    • Jim Bean

      There’s going to be a ton of speechless liberals left with nothing to say once we no longer have a black president. How many of those racist pubs do you think would vote for Allen West were he to run for president? And why?

      • DogmaDestroys

        Naw, the liberals will still have plenty to say – because as soon as Hillary enters office, all the conserva-fascist racists will instantly turn to conserva-fascist MISOGYNISTS. And I would bet that lots of you conserva-fascists would vote for war criminal and hilariously failed EX Congressman West despite the fact that he too is black, because he espouses the same batshit religious, fascist ideologies as you losers. Not that that idiot has the slightest chance of ever becoming POTUS – He was so incompetent, paranoid, and ridiculous that he couldn’t even hold on to his House seat – IN BATSHIT CENTRAL (Florida). LMAO.

      • Jim Bean

        Hmmm. They would vote for him despite his skin color because they agreed with his ideas? Hillary is a war criminal too, but the Left will vote for her despite that fact. Wonder what it all means.

      • Odd Jørgensen

        war criminal? and exactly what did she do?

      • Stephen Barlow

        AT LEAST OLLIE NORTH HAD A SMIDGEN of dignity. He did the time for his bosses crime.

        And got a radio career out of it all.

      • Stephen Barlow

        HOW IS THERE ANY dignitydignity in that?

      • DogmaDestroys

        If I may: I’m nearly 100% certain that what our sadly deluded friend “Jim Bean” is STILL pathetically (and hilariously) trying to push here is the notion that Clinton is somehow culpable for the deaths of four Americans in the Benghazi! Benghazi! Benghazi!!!! attack. And I have no doubt that just like every other conserva-fascist liar in the US, this mouthbreather goes around parroting the cherry-picked five words “What difference does it make?” from her testimony on the attack – completely oblivious to the context of the lengthy statement from which those five words are drawn.

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      • Don

        I’d go along with Hillary’s responsibility for Benghazi, as long as Bush/Cheney took responsibility for 9/11, all the deaths suffered in an illegal worthless war in Iraq, & all the other diplomatic deaths that occurred on their watch. But the blame-game only occurs when a Democrat is at the controls; otherwise the Bush-mongers would be rotting in prison. The height of hypocrisy.

      • John Jamison

        Yeah!!!; like Carl Rove did John Kerry with “I voted for it before I voted against it”.

      • Jim Bean

        Voted with Bush to start that war.

      • Odd Jørgensen

        And who was it that lied to make the people think that it was just a matter of time before Saddam would use his nonexistent wmds to attack America or whatever nonsense they spouted so Dubya could take revenge on that bad man that “tried to kill my daddy”

      • Jim Bean

        Hillary. So you don’t you dare ever vote for her.
        “In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members … It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons.”
        — Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002

      • Odd Jørgensen

        Relax,as far as I know,she will not be running for anything in Norway,so I won`t vote for her,I promise /s

      • dogbreath

        I think she got some bad Mojo. Bush was dishing it out. IE: Colin Powell @ the UN.

      • Vetguy1234

        Yeah because the senate and house were all depending on Bush telling the truth….we now know that all they saw was misleading heavily redacted intelligence reports and a machine of lies from Cheney and his cronies…her statement is taken directly from the garbage they gave her

      • Jim Bean

        Oh, what bull-crap! She had access to the same intel that Bush and Tony Blair had. You think the President is the only person in the entire united states that has access to all the info?

      • Stephen Barlow

        Actually, no she didn’t. Only the Top President’s advisor’s, Rumsfeld, Cheney, Powell, Wolfowitz and the other guy I don’t remember. This was a secret plan to defraud the nation into war. They would have had Powell killed if he talked before his resignation.

      • Jim Bean

        Oh, puhleeese!!!

      • Stephen Barlow

        Congress was fed the same lie you still believe, that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction and was building a nuclear arsenal.

      • Jim Bean

        You’re argument is that Bush was the only person on the entire planet who had access to the complete intelligence. That’s irrational.

      • Stephen Barlow

        NO Jimhole. Bush was the one who CREATED the intelligence he fed Congress to get his Born Again Christian agenda Armageddon WAR for oil in the middle east. THERE NEVER WERE credible intelligence of 30,000 WMD’s in Iraq. Not from 6 allied nation’s intel. Not from Israel, Britain, Germany, France, Egypt or Saudi Arabia. Only the Italian Intelligence Agency would sign off on the possibility of a threat of some WMD’s. They NEVER even stated a number! Bush invented that ALL BY HIS LONESOME.

        If this wasn’t an invasion for oil, then WHY were the refineries, oil fields and the Ministry of oil building the first targets secured by American troops? Why was EVERY OTHER IRAQI TREASURE left completely unguarded until all the OIL was secure? How did 6 companies end up owning it all when BUSH swore no one would loot the Iraqi people of their national property?

        The WHOLE of the White House ‘reason to invade’ was based on falsely confirmed reports created by Bush about nigerian Yellow cake?

        Why was the main supporter of terrorism NOT the focus of ‘The War for Oil” I mean ‘War on Terror (wink winkie wink wink wink nudge guffaw)?”

        I know those are a lot of hard questions to answer, but you clam to be the ultimate expert, so ANSWER THEM or admit you are lying/ignorant by deflecting or blathering a party slogan punchline.

      • Jim Bean

        Put this in your browser and smoke it. Iraq’s Weapons of mass destruction programs CIA

      • Stephen Barlow

        TRY posting the ‘proof’ you claim to have for eVERYONE to see?

      • Jim Bean

        I just did. Every time I post a link on FP I find it marked ‘pending’ three days later. This is one of those sad affairs where you might just have to exert some of your own energy and use a search engine.

      • Stephen Barlow

        They approve mine within minutes. MAybe it’s because I research LEGITIMATE news and reference sites. not garbage blogs known to be less honest than Breitbart.

        Since I already KNOW better AND proved it AND posted the proof… You’re blathering is not worth My time.

        I has just stopped being fun peeing on your head. I kinda feel like I am now abusing the handicapped or mentally disabled.

      • Michael M.


      • Chain me and W knew and then lied about it.

      • regressive teaparty trash

        good comeback there jimbo–

      • Stephen Barlow

        Prove it!;

      • Look fr it yourself you lazy liberal bastard. Does your mommy still hold your tiny dick when you go potty?

      • Marilyn Olsen Scheffler

        My, aren’t YOU the classy one! Whew! Talk about having to have someone hold a hand!

      • Obama ate a dog, studied the Koran, smoked pot and snorted cocaine. A real liberal role model.

      • beatles 123

        you dont need ISIS to divide you americans,you are doing it to yourselves.You let fox news govern your lives,it washes your dirty linen in public all over the world.You are a great country be proud of it.Fox news isnt your government.If every american is knowledgeable and votes,you would have a Govt.that works for you.Pls dont listen to fox that divides you

      • Go back to your low ratings MSNBC.

      • regressive teaparty trash

        —————–hey look! troll “itisobamasfault” is showing his familial transposition again!

      • Democrats got their asses kicked just as I predicted.

      • regressive teaparty trash

        we all knew that Einstein,,,,,,,,,,,,,only white trash regressive republican scum vote during midterms,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, 36% of voters voted: lowest since 1942-
        great ” victory” eh???

      • So you liberal Democrats were too lazy and too stoned to vote. Tough shit for you losers. We won and you lost. WE are the champions. You piss ant.

      • regressive teaparty trash

        awwwww,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ” we are the champions”
        Hmmmm,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, other than a pretty cool QUEEN song; exactly what did your white trash party win? ==============================
        ????? maybe a big chance to cut taxes on wealthy ( see: starve the beast) or maybe pullup another ebola / Benghazi/ isis scare???
        PRAISE JEEEEEESUS!!! tax free of course

      • regressive teaparty trash

        champions of what; exactly?

      • Patriotism, honesty, integrity, strength.

      • regressive teaparty trash

        duuuude,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, that’s hilarious!!!
        especially the HONEST part!!!!

      • Keystone pipeline needed 60 votes, only got 59. Democrats call to pass a bill a simple majority of 51 votes.

        So you need 60 to pass. Democrats are such hypocrites and liars.

        The Senate blocked a measure Tuesday that would have authorized construction of the Keystone XL pipeline as Democrats chose their pro-environment base over embattled Louisiana Sen. Mary Landrieu

        The liberals whined about getting a simple majority to pass a bill, but now you need 60 votes and the bill got 59. In 2015 when Republicans take the Senate they will pass this bill by more than 60 votes.If Obama vetoes it he is a hypocrite and liar saying that we should go after all our energy needs. Canada can take all those jobs and have them up North and we get nothing. Oil now is transferred by dangerous railroads where a derailed railroad car will mean certain disaster. Is it a coincidence that Obama’s buddy Warren Buffet owns a railroad. This whole thing stinks.Its proposed route would stretch about 1,660 miles, connecting Hardisty, Alberta to Port Arthur, Texas.There are already about 2.3 million miles of pipeline across the US, carrying oil and natural gas. But a series of accidents involving the shipment of oil by rail – including a fiery crash last June at Lac Megantic Quebec, that killed 47 and destroyed half the town – have undercut those arguments.TransCanada and other energy companies, as well as some major trades unions, argued that the pipeline project would create as many as 5,000 construction jobs. They also argued that it would give the US economy access to oil from a friendly neighbor – or so-called ethical oil. Canada is already the largest single supplier of oil to the US, followed by Mexico – both friendly countries and neighbors. –The State Department, which completed an environmental review of the project Jan. 31, has said the pipeline would create the equivalent of 3,900 full-time construction jobs if it’s completed in one year, or 1,950 if it’s done in two years.

        TransCanada, the company hoping to build the pipeline from oil sands in western Canada to refineries in the U.S., has come to a far different conclusion. It says the project will create about 9,000 part-time, temporary and full-time construction jobs. It hasn’t said how many permanent jobs it will provide once construction’s complete.

        Thirteen Democrats voted with Landrieu, including outgoing Sens. Mark Begich of Alaska, Kay Hagan of North Carolina, Mark Pryor of Arkansas, and John Walsh of Montana. Additional Democratic votes came from Michael Bennet of Colorado, Tom Carper of Delaware, Bob Casey of Pennsylvania, Joe Donnelly of Indiana, Heidi Heitkamp of North Dakota, Joe Manchin of West Virginia, Claire McCaskill of Missouri, Jon Tester of Montana, and Mark Warner of Virginia.

        The US is now the largest oil producing country in the world. We do not export our oil due to a Liberal law enacted in 1976 by Carter when we had the old gas crisis in the middle east. The laws purpose was to ensure we never had a shortage in the US again. If we lift this ban, the US could actually produce and export more oil than all the arab countries combined and this would actually cause oil prices per barrel to drop and stabilize this very volatile commodity and end any dependence on middle east OPEC oil once and for all and there is not a thing the “sheiks” can do about it. The main reason we DON”T lift the ban is simple, it would create the most instability the middle east has ever known. As for the Keystone Pipeline…actually the people that say the US is not “earmarked” for any of this oil are absolutely incorrect. We are earmarked for 5% of our reserves to come from the Canadian arrangement. But where it really helps our economy is 4 fold: 1) the jobs it will create for construction and maintenance are 13-14K…2) Since the deal involves US refineries, more will need to be built with employees working in them, estimates put this at 10-13

      • regressive teaparty trash

        Canadian oil sent ( sold) to china,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,its us— except KOCH brothers make more money; can seriously damage the land
        wrong again U are kreskin,,,!

      • Warren Buffet loves the deal because he owns a railroad that can deliver oil. Obama’s liberal buddy.

      • youcantgetridofmethateasy

        So Nancy ‘You can’t hit a moving target’ Pelosi isn’t scum?

      • regressive teaparty trash

        36% voter turnout— lowest in 72 yrs
        republicans RULE!!!


        Obama acres is the place for me.

        Socialist livin’ is the life for me.

        Wealth spreadin’ out so far and wide.

        Keep socialism so they tax you even after you died.

        Washington DC is where Obama would rather stay.

        Obama wants to keep taxing you night and day.

        Obama just adores a European socialist view.

        Israel I love you, so chill out all you Jews.

        …The single payer.

        …The teleprompter player.

        …Fresh new taxes.

        …Michele’s bikini waxes

        Bill Ayers and his wife.

        Helped start Obama’s political life.

        Obama Acres we are there.


        OBAMA’S ISLE

        Just sit right back and you’ll hear a fairy tale

        A tale of a fateful election slip

        That started from a community organizer to a man who thinks he’s hip

        Barack was a flip flop president, a socialist to be sure.

        America’s debt kept going up for a eight year tour,

        For an eight year tour.

        The economy started getting rough,

        Obama’s ratings were tossed

        If not for the lying of the liberal press,

        Obama’s socialist plans would be lost.

        Obama’s socialist plans would be lost.

        America’s credit is downgraded on an uncharted future,

        With Obama…..

        Michele Obama too…..

        The SDS Weathermen terrorist Bill Ayers ….

        And Bernadine Dohrn his wife….

        The liberal Movie star ….

        Joe Biden and his gaffes….

        Here on Obama’s’ Isle.

        So, this is the tale of our socialists

        they’re been here for a long long time

        they’ll have to make the best of things….

        Obamacare is a crime…

        Obama and Joe Biden too.

        will do their socialist best…

        to make the freeloaders comfortable and their Obama love fest.

        no phone! no lights!

        no motor car…

        not a single luxury…

        like Communist Cuba, it’s as socialist as can be

        so join Obama here each week comrade

        you’re sure to get a smile…

        Obama is passing out all kinds of free stuff

        here on Obama’s Isle!!

        Too bad your sorry ass liberals didn’t come out to vote. Too busy smoking joints an corn holing each other up the pop shoot.

      • You got your ass kicked just like I said. ah ha lol

      • Marilyn Olsen Scheffler

        Interesting that on SOME sites you are all democrat and on others you are all republican. Does the word TROLL mean anything here? Hmm?

      • Jim Bean

        It doesn’t mean ‘someone who disagrees with me’ – here, or anywhere. I’m not wedded to either party.

      • The former President George W. Bush and his Vice President Dick Chain me, are both pathological liers.

      • Jim Bean

        I might agree with that if you include Obama and Hillary in the mix but you won’t because for you, there are disgusting liars and admirable liars.

      • State Obama’s lies, right here and now state his lies. Want me to tell you about the republican lies since Raygun?

      • Jim Bean
      • Stephen Barlow

        WHY DID THEY NOT Impeach him.?

      • Stephen Barlow


      • Jim Bean

        Guess Bush was in control of the British Intelligence agencies as well. He was quite the guy.

      • Stephen Barlow

        They original lay rejected the WMD scam @ mi6. Then Bush buggered Blair and 125,000 people were murdered by a conspiracy to lie for oil.

      • These Muslims morons killed each other. Obama was holding a cup of Chia tea or a latte in his right hand and did a ‘whatever’ salute to the two Marines. I’ve never seen this kind of disrespect to our military by our president EVER!

        While similar, President Bush’s 2003 Iraq coalition actually dwarfed President Obama’s alliance against the Islamic State – at least in its current iteration. Bush’s international coalition to depose Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein involved over three dozen nations and tens of thousands of ground troops, including 46,000 from the United Kingdom, 2,000 from Australia, and thousands from Poland, Ukraine, South Korea, the Netherlands, and Georgia. Countries from Europe, East Asia, and Latin America all participated. I expect their contribution was allowing us to use our bases and equipment located in their countries, providing fuel and perhaps some air traffic control. I doubt very much they had any aircraft participate, except maybe to make sure the ISIS and Khorasan Air Forces don’t attack their countries.

        “President George W. Bush had 18 countries for his use of force against Iraq.

        Democratic congressman Charlie Wilson became obsessed with the Afghan cause, and was able to leverage his position on the House Appropriations committees to encourage other Democratic congressmen to vote for CIA Afghan war money, with the tacit approval of Democratic party House leader Tip O’Neill, even as the Democratic party lambasted Reagan for the CIA’s secret war in Central America. It was a complex web of relationships described in George Crile III’s book Charlie Wilson’s War

        Look at UN resolution 1441 and the 14 other UN resolutions Saddam Hussein broke. He had his day in court unlike Col Khadiffi who was sodomized and murdered without a trial.

        Hussein stole oil for food money, shot at our planes in the no fly zone daily and tried to kill a former US president in Kuwait in 1993.


        “One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line.”

        –President Bill Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998

        “If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction program.”

        –President Bill Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998

        “Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face.”

        –Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998

        “He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983.”

        –Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998

        “[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq’s refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs.”

        Letter to President Clinton, signed by:

        — Democratic Senators Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others, Oct. 9, 1998

        “Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process.”

        -Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998

        “Hussein has … chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies.”

        — Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999

        “There is no doubt that … Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that

      • Stephen Barlow

        Not even sending SEVEN THOUSAND TO THEIR GRAVES? Nor crippling 30,000 for LIFE?

      • Obama is good for about 2,500 of them. 74% in Afghanistna alone

      • Stephen Barlow

        Well, if the WMD lie had NEVER been SOLD…

        7+000 would would still be living.

        30,000 would NOT need hospital care. FOR THE REST OF THEIR LIVES!

      • Your number are pure fiction.

        So what happened to the investigation of deserter Bowe Bergdahl? Obama has hidden the whole thing. No doubt the 5 top Muslim terrorists he released from Gitmo are once again in action.

      • Stephen Barlow

        7700 dead from the entire BUSH WAR FOR OIL MACHINE in both Afpak and Iraq. NO one could be stupid enough to believe YOU!!!!! Not even with a birth defect AND TBI from an IED.

        You tell ME what Bergdahl was about?

        Back in action, after YEARS of the BEST FOOD THEY HAVE EVER SEEN, medical care that doesn’t include GOAT PISS and a decade of NOT being water boarded? they are telling ALL of Al Quaida “HEY MAN!! you just GOTTA spend some time in that American SPA!!! They have ALL THE WATER YOU CAN DRINK. And you don’t have to suck a camel dic* to get it!!! THEY take SHOWERS EVERY DAY!!!!”

        Besides, they are 10 years older than the dirt they were older than before.

      • Marilyn Olsen Scheffler

        Well, for all of the dissension over that situation—-in Houston we have big billboards begging that we do our best to bring Bowe Bergdahl home!! So I guess a lot of people wanted that to happen!

      • Bowe Bergdahl is a deserter. So where’s his trial? Five Top Muslim terrorist traded for this piece of garbage who left his post.

      • Stephen Barlow

        A time line DOES NOT equate responsibility.

      • Obama shitcans his own stupid pick. President Barack Obama appointed Julia A. Pierson as the 23rd Director of the United States Secret Service on March 27, 2013. Julia Pierson is a career law enforcement executive with more than 30 years of experience with the United States Secret Service.

      • Stephen Barlow

        A mistake was made, a very public mistake. I would electrify that Black iron fence, but too many people could bump up against it by accident.

      • Marilyn Olsen Scheffler

        Really? You might want to check a picture of W. Bush when he had his dog in his arms and tried to salute while holding the dog!! I think you need to research your info before spewing your MIS INFO on here!

      • Christian

        Jim Bean, are you a southerner watching only Fox News? That would be why you don’t take into account the intel was cooked by the PNACis in the pentagon. Oh no you say. Does Douglas Feith mean anything to you. Emotional pendejo.

      • Brian

        The CIA, whom Bush Sr. was the head of at one point, wrote the report, dumbass.

      • The key words here are “intelligence reports show”. The intelligence reports were all lies. Garbage in, garbage out. That’s why you can’t deal with a bunch of republicans that tell lies on a daily basis. You loose reality in a sea of lies.

      • Jim Bean

        And I suppose you regard the past 6 1/2 of Democratic Party conduct the epitome of transparency and honesty?

      • Stephen Barlow


      • giankeys LOVES shemale porn

        so- based upon that paralogism,,,,,,,,,,how many war criminals are in the USA?

      • Jim Bean

        Counting, Joe Biden, Harry Reid, and John Kerry?

      • giankeys LOVES shemale porn

        name them all or name none. NOTE: please include the severity by using where they were (powerwise) in government
        example– who was worse: a newbie congressman or a vice president….
        let ‘er rip jimbo: I cant WAIT to see this spinning!

      • Jim Bean

        Would you like my to wash your bicycle as well?

      • giankeys LOVES shemale porn

        nope– just answer what I asked ; senator mccarthy
        ( wash cycle spin?)

      • Stephen Barlow

        So you admit to the fraud Bush committed to begin and sustain and expand this war? Thanks for that tidbit of truth from you.

      • Jim Bean

        WikiLeaks’ latest publication of Iraq war documents contains a lot of information that most reasonable people would prefer remained unknown, such as the names of Iraqi informants who will now be hunted for helping the U.S.

        And although the anti-war left welcomed the release of the documents, they would probably cringe at one of the most significant finds of this latest crop of reports: Iraq had weapons of mass destruction (WMD).

        To read more, paste that txt into your browser.

      • Stephen Barlow

        Do you have a more credible source? Maybe even a LIST of how many WMD’s were actually found in iraq? Like maybe less than 40? Did ANYONE find THIRTY THOUSAND? NO!!! Bush lied from the beginning.

      • Jim Bean

        The actual tally of WMD’s found does, in no way, indicate Bush/Hillary lied any more than the rise of ISIS indicates Obama lied when he said al Qaeda was on the run and ISIS was junior varsity.

      • Stephen Barlow

        ISIS was the junior varsity 3 years ago. And when we left Iraq (after buying safe passage for $100 Billion), the Iraqi Army was capable of handling what was left of Al Quaida. But The hand selected by Bush porch monkey in charge became segregational, and vindictive and excluded his religious opponents.

        THAT more than anything caused the uprising of ISIS in iraq. The abandoning of equipment strong enough to FIGHT was predictable as well as preventable. ISIS was the only answer LEFT to the Iraqi people abandoned by the Monkeybutt leader and their new government.

        YEP, it turned out that what he said was wrong, but NOT at the time he said it. Just like keeping your insurance if you like it. Obama had assurances from the insurance industry that they would restructure existing policies and the GOP bastards backstabbed him. (DO you honestly think there is a single Democrat in the upper eschelons of the insurance industry?)

        They failed and Obama if more at fault for trusting thieves than deceiving Americans in both cases, PPACA and Iraq. I mean he trusted Boehner TWICE on the debt ceiling and default threat and Boehner shanked him like a new prisoner.

        But the RALITY is that the VOTERS shanked him in 2010. Given a genuine majority for more than 60 days in office, Obama would have gone into history with a legacy far greater than either of the Roosevelts. There but for the subterfuge of the REDpublicans goes Obama. But the VOTERS are responsible for their own fate.

      • Stephen Barlow

        Are you admitting to having no actual knowledge of a SINGLE WMD found in Iraq?
        So you are claiming another is a liar and war criminal by LYING about it all?

      • Kurt Luttrell

        Readers have the ability to change Wikipedia. A five year old with enough dexterity can change all things wiki however he /she wishes.

      • Jim Bean

        Did you find something you think was changed to be incorrect? Are you just making conversation? Are you creating a diversion because you are uncomfortable with the idea that Iraq had WMD’s? What?

      • Kurt Luttrell

        I was speaking in generalities. You cant use anything wiki as a legit citation considering the fact that readers can change the content. You wouldn’t accept citations from sources such as Rachel Maddow, or the young turks would you? As for wmd’s. ..dude…believe whatever you wish. Clicking tour heels three times will get you out of oz also…

      • Michael M.

        LOL, seriously?!

        In response to the question of just what makes Hillary Clinton a war criminal — the best you could do was that she voted for going to war in Iraq; based on the false intel Bush fed her, and the rest of Congress?

        Ohhhhh man that was WEAK!!!

        At least we know you’re not getting paid to be a troll, LOL

      • Jordan Ward

        With the lies created by Bush, so then you agree that Bush is a war criminal right?

      • Jim Bean

        Actually, no. In the first place, the American people, in March of 2003 70% of us supported Bush’s incursion into Iraq – not because they feared Saddams WMD’s but because they feared armed Islamic radicals. Had you been alive back then you would know that Saddam was uncooperative with inspectors and had used WMD’s against his own people in the past. There was not an intelligent reason, under the circumstances, to presume he did not still have some.

      • Kurt Luttrell

        In his world, being force fed false intelligence and voting according to said false intelligence makes you equally as guilty somehow. Hillary, and many others , have stated on the record that they would never have voted for the war if they had gotten the real intell, instead of the cherry picked crap bush, cheyney and rove pushed. Even die hard republican Colin Powell stated that fact.

      • W and Chainme lied to everyone. You can’t make a logical conclusion without the correct facts to begin with.

      • Kurt Luttrell

        Exactly. Blaming hillary for her vote, which was obviously based on false information, is absurd. Its well known that bush. Cheney and karl rove cherry picked, and twisted the intell submitted for vote. If you make a decision based on that intel, not knowing it was a lie, then how the hell can someone hold that vote against you later? But then, the samr people blaming her for her vote, are the same idiots that voted for bush for a second term. He lied us into wars, and then almost killed our nation.

      • regressive white trash reli

        notice how jimbo did NOT reply???
        ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,jimbo likes 2 air (FOX “news” esque) facts,,,,,then NOT substantiate them

      • Stephen Barlow

        Despite? Ollie North Lite action figure Allen West, on tour in Montrose, Colorado for $20 a seat.

        Truckstop hookers get twice that for a 15 minute BJ!!!!

        He’s a 5th tier rabble rousing Congressional failure and professional LIAR.

        And YOU want THAT as Leader of the Free World?

      • Stephen Barlow


      • giankeys LOVES shemale porn

        I bet they would vote for ben carson if he won GOP ticket—
        after all; he won a medal !

      • Kyle Davis

        I’m curious, I hadnt heard this, how exactly is hillary clinton a war criminal?

      • Jim Bean

        She voted in favor of the Authorization for Military Force Against Iraq.

      • Stephen Barlow

        So did EVERYONE EXCEPT Obama!!!! He was the only NO vote. 4 others abstained. So you are now an Obama fan!!!

      • Jim Bean

        All of Obama’s votes were cowardly and focused on his political interests. Voting ‘present’ was his default position on pretty much everything.

      • Stephen Barlow

        Now you are just flat out LYING about the War vote.

      • Jim Bean

        I did not say he didn’t vote ‘no” on the war. I’m saying his trend was to vote his political interests, not the nations.

      • giankeys LOVES shemale porn

        really jim? I read the above rant- I blanketed it by saying “pretty much EVERYTHING…..”
        U only recanted the war vote SAFTER s barlow punched U here. U are a king spinner

      • Jim Bean

        You blanket pretty much everything by saying pretty much anything.

      • giankeys LOVES shemale porn

        yeah,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,I know– those well searched out FACTS via CBO and US treasury and economists writings DO blanket a ton don’t they?
        ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, now– about that 1950s ” in god we trust” reference: how does THAT anti commie jingoism pertain to founding fathers and Christianity? NOTE: “god” A.I.N.T. jeeeesus

      • Jim Bean

        But I like you anyway.

      • Stephen Barlow

        Changing the discussion still means you KNOW the truth and can’t man up and admit you were WRONG. Honest people call that cowardice.

      • giankeys LOVES shemale porn

        cowardice??? Stephen !!! Regressives call that PATRIOTISM! U BLINDLY FOLLOW THE BIBLE!! U BLINDLY FOLLOW your American flag waving ( see: cliven bundy/ tea party cretins) fellow white americans!
        how DARE U forget such long standing symbolism!! say 10 hail marys and write out the pledge of allegiance

      • Stephen Barlow

        The great American Patriots who arm themselves against the government and commit Sedition on a daily basis. Obama should have had Boehner arrested for Sedition along with all the FreedomWorks letter signers the day it came out.

        THAT would have shut their mouths and driven the Tea party underground before the 2012 election.

      • Stephen Barlow

        Just a reminder, his JOPB was to vote his constituent’s interests. the Nation’s needs are not his provenance.

      • giankeys LOVES shemale porn

        replace Obama with any republican name ( in any political office) and your statement gleans with impeccable accuracy!
        I do LOVE how a white trash micropenile regressive TROLL always ( ALWAYS!!) upvotes all ur– and any other regressives– posts here!!
        kinda like pressing ” I AGREE” on the bottom of any bible writings without reading first

      • Stephen Barlow

        So did 530 other elected Representatives, based on Fraud committed in and from the White House @ Bush’s direction.

      • Jim Bean

        Tony Blair had his own intelligence network.

      • Stephen Barlow

        But he bought the same 6 ties rejected, italian ‘confirmed’ bullshit Bush sold. The BRits got a hefty share of the oil wells and refineries.

      • giankeys LOVES shemale porn

        shes a commie liberal Kenyan socialist who hates white people and wants sharia law imposed upon GOD FEARING “Christians” while COMING 4 YOUR GUNS
        oh wait– that’s the description of Obama,,,,, Hillary orchestrated the deaths of 4 men in Benghazi an covered it up with taxpayer funds,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, taxpayer funds,,,,,,,,,,,,
        OHWAIT– “taxpayer funds”– that would be Darrell issa and trey gowdy spending ( prudently of course: repubs don’t spend) millions on a witch hunt which they FINALLY— and quietly– acquiesced to saying NO coverup or malfeasance was committed
        my bad,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,I mustve been watching FOX “news”

      • giankeys LOVES shemale porn

        it means the regressive republcans have incredible candidates to run– Cruz / Christie / perry / palin / paul/ walker / pat paulsen

      • pablo duvnjak

        Are you OK Jim???

      • CE Lee

        She will lose against West because all the blacks will vote for West because he’s black. That’s what Hannity said, blacks vote for black candidates ONLY because they’re black and that’s how President Obama got elected twice. Allen West is a shoo in!

      • Larry

        Really ? When did she become a war criminal ? I think you are confused a bit. Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld and Rice, are the only one’s I know of who were found guilty by the Hague for war crimes and crimes against humanity 185,000 dead for no reason, just a lie.Trillions flushed down the drain. Bush had to cancel a trip to Switzerland in 2012 for fear of arrest. People on the right act like none of this ever happened, no outrage. Why?

      • Jim Bean

        The Hague? You’re serious, aren’t you?

      • Marilyn Olsen Scheffler

        Yes, tell us the war criminal story mr. bean! Maybe YOU work for faux news as well!

      • regressive teaparty trash

        hey james———— didja didja didja see ( read? hear?) that the “select” committee – with (R) trey gowdy at the helm– AGAIN ( see: again) quietly admitted that they – the republican led ; taxpayer$$$ funded committee found N..O..T..H..I..N..G.. at all remotely associated with any “coverup” or “wrongdoing” or ” stand down” orders (ETC) surrounding the Benghazi incident?
        ,,,,jimbo? jimbo? james,,,,,,,? are U still here??/

      • Stephen Barlow

        SAAAADDDDD but too true. Scandal of the Century:

        “Obama likes GILFS!!!! Hillary like Black Mamba ANACONDA’s on the White House lawn!!!!

        Michelle turns to bill for consolation wearing a blue dress.


      • robingee

        Hillary’s Uterus Causes Unrest in the Middle East! They were already saying she was using a walker when she was merely leaning on a patio chair.

      • giankeys LOVES shemale porn

        but he DOES have a nice comfy seat as a FOX “news” contributor

      • regressive teaparty trash


      • surfjac

        Why would I vote for war criminal allen west?

      • giankeys LOVES shemale porn

        because he found all those communists in congress
        and because he is soooooo qualified to be a FOX “news” contributor!!! ( now; about that tea party PATRIOT joe walsh )

      • Stephen Barlow

        HAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAA! It’s not Obama’s BLACKNESS that people voted for!!!

        It’s that he wasn’t a selfish Redpublican Racist! Allen West is a Afro hating Negropublican. Even Michael Steele knows this. Think Hermann Cain has any cred as a “person of color”?

        NOPE! because he acts like Dubya’s stupid brother Neil.

        Wanna know WHY Jeb will fail as a candidate?

        “Did you stop the vote count and deny A HUNDRED THOUSAND BLACK FLORIDIANS A VOTE, just to make sure your brother became President?”

        THAT was the Bush CHAPPAQUIDICK. Political Suicide by living through it.

      • Jim Bean

        So, if you’re black and you don’t subscribe to the group-think, you get excommunicated and Stephen Barlow has no respect for you?

      • Stephen Barlow


        There is only the BLACKness YOU apply to a circumstance. 100,000 voters denied a fair count is evil 24/7.

        Particularly when WAR and economic collapse are the prize..

      • Jim Bean

        Economic collapse is what happens when a left wing zealot (Reno/Democrat) begins suing banks because they are refusing to make sub-prime mortgages to people with 3 months remaining unemployment benefits to offer as qualification for a large loan.

      • Stephen Barlow

        DO you even KNOW what a CDO is?

      • Jim Bean

        Its a Collateralized Debt Obligation, a.k.a. ‘what banks did instead of eat the losses as Reno mistakenly thought they would have no choice but to do.”

      • Stephen Barlow

        You have read the name. Do you actually KNOW what it is and how it functions?

        It is a group of collateralized assets (loans of any securitized type, bundled together and split up and sold as shares of the whole. So $10,000,000 in mortgages an car loans are bundled into a single security and sold to 1000 buyers who each have a 1/10,000th stakes in each and every loan. This is why mortgage revaluations could not be accomplished in a court. ALL the owners of any asset up for bankruptcy/foreclosure restructuring must agree to the terms. Hank Paulsen designed this for that express purpose, to keep the asset untouchable so Goldman-Sachs (and others) could cash in on the insurance policies (Credit Default Swaps), nonr of which were collateralized by the insurers. Which is why Lehman & AIG and Bear Sterns went belly up so fast. No assets to pay claims. Only AIG had alternative incomes and could possibly be saved.

        Did you know that NONE of the actual ‘toxic assets’ were ever paid for, despite that being the exact purpose of Hank Paulsen and George Bush’s TARP?

        Did you also know that 11 million foreclosed homes do NOT appear on the books of the banks that closed them? Not until they were fire saled to consortiums of investment bankers buying whole lots of homes for 40-50 cents on the dollar from other banks. It’s classic money laundering and it was part and parcel of the Bush Administration TARP plan all along.

        Amazing what you can learn by being shown as a fool by people you abuse.

      • Jim Bean

        The toxic assets were the result of Clinton/Reno strong-arming banks into making the sub-prime mortgage loans that they were previously unwilling to make. If you make a stupid decision you’re still liable for the blame even the things people did in reaction to your stupid mistake are deplorable in nature.

      • Stephen Barlow

        Reno didn’t invent the CDO, nor the CDS. Phil Gramm’s wife was a derivatives lobbyist and Bush’s friend Phil slipped an amendment into the Gramm-Leach-Bililey Act hours before Clinton signed it outlawing ALL OVERSIGHT of any derivative.

        The crash was a Republican created problem of Republican created blindness of ricky Republican securities.

        It happened a half decade after Reno.

      • giankeys LOVES shemale porn

        dammmmmit Stephen!!! what did I tell U about annoying a regressive with FACTS???
        GO 2 YOUR ROOM!

      • Stephen Barlow

        LMAO!! i’m sorry. I shouldn’t allow the facts and truth to interfere with a Republican LIE. Nixon was NOT a CROOK and Bush was a genius. Rumsfeld was a Veteran’s advocate and Cheney ran a flower sop in the Village.

      • Jim Bean

        No, the crash was inevitable from the day Reno forced the making of the bad subprime mortgage loans which fueled the housing industry into a frenzy. From, ‘Remarks of the Honorable Janet Reno to the National Community Reinvestment Coalition” 3-20-98. [You’ve noted that since the inception of our fair lending initiative in 1992 the Department has filed and settled 13 major fair lending lawsuits. We are going to continue these efforts under the Acting Assistant Attorney General Bill Lann Lee in every way that we possibly can. We will continue to focus on discrimination in underwriting, the process of evaluating the qualifications of credit applicants. This was the issue in our suits against Shawmut in Boston, Northern Trust Company in Chicago, and First National Bank of Donna Anna in New Mexico.] This is where it began that, if you had three months of remaining unemployment to show as income, you were ‘qualified’ for a mortgage under this “Fair Lending’ left-wing social engineering experiment. And if you were a bank and failed to toe the line, you got sued by the Federal Government.

      • giankeys LOVES shemale porn

        u are ( again) ignoring the repub ( gramm) placing the IN ability to have ANY oversight upon this————– that’s what SPARKET the fire: a smolder became a blaze with NO OVERSIGHT
        wanna try again?

      • Jim Bean

        Barney Frank was the oversight. He was a Dem. He said all was well.

      • giankeys LOVES shemale porn

        again,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,james: the inability to LEGALLY interfere with derivatives ( oversight/ gramm L B act) made anyone who ‘ oversaw” a paper tiger. Nothing could legally or legislatively be done unless that bill was revoked or amended. Bush and his cronies worded it in such a way that it was( at the time) untouchable. Care to dispute that?????

      • Stephen Barlow

        If you would state the WHOLE TRUTH for the record once in a while, i wouldn’t find you utterly contemptable.

      • Stephen Barlow

        RENO, Greenspan, Cisneros et al FORCED NOTHING. They just said “clean up your racial discrimination or we will clean it up for you”. The banker’s solely CHOSE to falisfiy documentation, neglect due diligence and defraud buyer’s wholesale. ALL on their OWN. they could very well have given loans to minorities with good job records and fair credit.

        What they had been doing is giving WHITES with fair credit mortgages and demanding good or excellent credit from minorities. 11 million minority home buyers wasn’t just an accident, it was a PLAN.

        NO where was bundling loans into CDO’s a MANDATE under any law. nor was insuring “planed to fail” loans which is exactly what Hank Paulsen did @ Goldman Sachs before he became Secretary of the Treasury. He had the power to stop the crash n 2006, but intentionally ignored the warnings from Fed Presidents, the FDIC and FANNIE & FREDDY.

      • Jim Bean

        I give you Reno bragging about suing banks and you give me ‘she forced nothing?’ Alrighty, then.

      • Stephen Barlow

        RENO was the ONLY person who could actually file suit on behalf of the American people. In your mind, all the others who were EQUAL SIGNATORIES on the letter explaining to banks their future options, are 100% ‘innocent’. ow can you honestly justify THAT?

        And explain WHY the spike in home loans took until AFTER Reno resigned and was replaced, If she is 100% responsible?

        WHY was the spike extended through 80% of the Bush administration?

        Ignoring 95% of the truth doesn’t discount the 5% reality of your claim, it just makes you a LIAR 95% of the time.

      • giankeys LOVES shemale porn

        u neglected to answer my inquiry regarding the PCT% of banks profits VS writeoffs
        facts doth destroyeth thy laments

      • Jim Bean

        First you have to tell me what is has to do with anything. The banks figured out how to pass off the Reno-imposed losses and then saw a way to turn the whole thing into a racquet. They were bad. But Reno/Clinton caused it. Look up the definition of “root cause.”

      • giankeys LOVES shemale porn

        nice strawman attempt– you an I ( and anyone who can read up on it) knows that phil gramm was a derivative specialist( wife lobbyist) who snuck in a provision to the bill OUTLAWING OVERSIGHT TO THE “root cause” DERIVATIVES. That allowed scumbag banks/ real estate agents/ etc to snare HUGE profits from everyone with promise of having a home even if they couldnt make payments soon after. One the ease of acting with impunity was clear– the gates opened. mid 2002 the housing ‘bubble” began; collapsing 5 yrs later. NOTE” gramm was -and is– fast friends with republicans and GW bush.
        wanna try for the fun prizes associated with the Iraq war and haliburton oil escapades??

      • Stephen Barlow

        Thank you for that verification of the truth Jimhole likes to continue lying about.

      • giankeys LOVES shemale porn

        ive dealt with him for over a year— hes a drunk who is retired and hates ( black) Obama and minorities————- if I was as he is I would od on cocaine and heroin while at a brothel

      • Stephen Barlow

        I wouldn’t go there. heroin addicts don’t follow politics.

      • Jim Bean

        Reno sues banks. Banks relent and write bad loans. Banks bundle and misrepresent bad loans. Housing bubble bursts. Economy crashes. Reno to blame. No Reno – no subprime mortgages to bundle.

      • giankeys LOVES shemale porn

        the reply below by Stephan is all I need- no need 2 re-write it. Banks were in charge: that why THEY are allowing HUGE sums ( in BILLIONS ) today to clear themselves ( financially) of wrongdoing. Did RENO force them NOW; TODAY to sign away BILLIONS as they knew their predations captured consumers?? jimbo? are U still here????

      • Stephen Barlow

        They were not required to forge and falsify qualification documents. That was a BANK management plan.

      • Stephen Barlow

        What you are missing is that normal people were scammed and duped by loan specialists with mortgages designed by MBA graduates. There was never a level playing field. You forget that. Rather you are too ignorant to acknowledge that truth or too dishonest to admit it.

      • giankeys LOVES shemale porn

        he knows———– but simply will not budge to posted facts. he hates minorities

      • Stephen Barlow

        I don’t know how racist Jim is, but I know how badly he hates to admit he’s wrong. He’s like Hitler that way, believing in his war even when both his enemies are surrounding Berlin and bombing it with impunity.

      • Jim Bean

        No I don’t forget it. I say over and over that the banks turned the subprime mortgage thing into a racquet. But that doesn’t change the fact that the racquet wouldn’t have started if Reno/Clinton hadn’t been dabbling in social engineering using bankers as lab rats.

      • Stephen Barlow

        It was also law under Reagan and both Bush’s More subprime mortgages were written under George Bush than under Clinton. He also deregulated the banking industry by cutting the oversight budget and thus the supervisory staff to allow more Republican banker’s to defraud more honest Americans who wanted to buy a home.

        THAT is where to collapse came from. That and the reality of zero dollar accounts by insurance companies who wrote the CDS’ on the bundled CDO’s.

        The whole truth Jim, all of it.

      • Jim Bean

        The banks didn’t eat the losses that Reno attempted force upon them so Reno is absolved of culpability? Not in a bona fide root cause analysis, she isn’t.

      • Stephen Barlow

        NO, The CRA was a CARTER plan to end real estate discrimination. Fair housing act was a nixon era legislation, but it was poorly enforced by underfunding of HUD. CARTER stepped up the pressure on banks to do business FAIRLY.

        Reagan all but ignored it, as did Bush the Loser. Clinton realized the economic gains of home ownership and delivered the American Dream to 5 million more people. This is the document telling banks to FAIRLY OFFER LOANS TO MINORITIES.

        BUSH the Lesser however, CAPITALIZED on the program and afforded every opportunity for FRAUD to happen. He did it with ENRON, with HALLIBURTON and the other no-bid Iraqi Freedom contracts and with mortgages. He had his administration look away, ignore warnings from the FED, from the FRIC, from FANNIE and FREDDY and from Congress in the voice of Barney Frank.

        All to set up the failure of the economy and the huge upward transfer of wealth this crash delivered to his cherished supporters. Hank Paulsen was chosen to direct the crash to happen after the election, but he bungled it.

        THAT was WHY the Mar 2008 Tax Rebate was implemented. So the people would spent their $3-600 checks paying bills, so he cold stand up in August and say, “the Fundamentals of the economy are fine”. But the wave crashed on his head.

        Tell us all the TRUTH Jim… IF Paulsen had been successful in staving off the crash he authored and it happened in March of 2009, would you have been swearing on a stack of Korans and Bibles that it was ALLL Obama’s fault?

      • Stephen Barlow

        We do agree on the banker’s being mostly at fault then.

      • Jim Bean

        No. No Reno suing to force subprime mortgages = no subprime mortgage loans = no incentive for foul play = no economic collapse.

      • Stephen Barlow

        Explain this in a little detail. You are claiming that 100% of the collapse is Reno’s personal fault. Greenspan, Cisneros and 3 others signed the regulatory letter. Why are you not blaming Reagan’s Best Man as well?

        Considering he ALSO dumped the Prime Lending Rate to 0.25% for 60 months!!! That’s fiscal idiocy and he is the ONLY Republican to take ANY responsibility for the crash.

        Why is the lack of oversight INTENTIONALLY PERPETRATED by Bush not part of the cause? OVERSIGHT by the SEC, FDIC, FED and Congress is part of the CONSTITUTIONAL RESPONSIBILITY of the Executive Branch.

        WHY are you so bent on exonerating Bush and Co for their part in PLANNING this collape?

      • Stephen Barlow

        Creating toxic assets was a banker’s CHOICE, not a legal requirement.
        Republican corruption allowed the securitizing of these mortgages and the insuring of them with uncollateralized insurance policies called Credit Default Swaps.

        Again, the WHOLE TRUTH would be nice from you once in your wretched existance.

      • giankeys LOVES shemale porn

        that will never happen,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, jimbo is calcified socially

      • Jim Bean

        The whole truth is that creating toxic assets became a legal requirement when Reno force them to abandon their definition of a qualified borrower and use hers. The banks then found away to pass the losses onto someone else, and then saw a way to expand upon that and turn it into a money making racquet. That IS the whole truth. The problem is that there is a part of the WHOLE TRUTH that you’re uncomfortable with and want to escape from.

      • Stephen Barlow

        I gave you the law as written. There was NO MANDATE TO ISSUE TOXIC DEBT. Never was. But eliminating racial lending discrimination was going to end, wither by the banks choice or Federal investigation and indictment.

        WHY sis the # of bad loans suddenly SPIKE when Bush took office? I mean if the banks were MANDATED BY LAW (as you claim) in 1995, why didn’t they immediately spike by 500% in 1996? Why the 6 year wait TO OBEY A LAW (that never existed).

        Also, to be a LAW, it must get passed through Congress. Was it? NO!!!!

        I’ll give you credit for a partial understanding of the Banker’s responsibility, but you fail miserably by inferring that 98% of the crash responsibility was Janet Reno personally. Why don’t you mention Greenspan and his signature on the letter?

        Not to mention his 0.25% Prime interest rate to banks that lasted 5 years? Never before has the Prime rate gone below 2% because it was fiscally irresponsible to CHARGE BANKS LESS for FED borrowing. How much of the crash was due to THAT?
        How much of the crash was due to the Bush Administration firing 40% of the oversight staff and un budgeting them of HALF the money they needed to just keep up with the old investments and banking issues?
        HOW did the massive offshoring of jobs by the Bush, INC policies contribute to the crash?
        HOW mush responsiblity do you assign to the Bush Administration?

        The lest bit of honesty from you should be able to answer the last question if not any of the others?

        The reason I find you so repulsively reprehensible is that your whole goal seems to be to EXONERATE Bush and his wars and tax cuts and massive lack of intelligent oversight of the banking, investment and insurance industries.

      • Jim Bean

        The ‘no mandate to issue toxic debt’ claim works only if you believe a few months of remaining unemployment benefits should qualify as income when applying for a 30 year mortgage, cause that’s what Reno was requiring. And it works only if you believe loaning 150k to build a home in a bad neighborhood where it will have a market value of only 30k upon completion is not a ‘toxic debt.’ Cause that too, is what Reno was requiring. Again, root cause. Question. What caused the housing related economic crash? Answer. Reno, via lawsuits, forced banks to change their lending strategies. Everything thing in between is a symptom.

      • Stephen Barlow

        SHOW me EXACTLY WHERE Reno REQUIRED that? Post it here for all to see.

        There is no place in America for the last 20 years where 30K was the FMV of a single family home WITHOUT WHEELS. In fact, in most places the unimproved LOT is $50K minimum.

        You are a bad liar because you are too stupid to follow the main rule of lying… make you lie as close to the truth as possible.

      • Jim Bean

        I can’t post links on FP. Put this in your browser. When refuting it give something equally researchable.

        Acorn led the way in this movement. In 1986, for instance, it protested a potential acquisition by Louisiana Bancshares, a Southern institution, until the bank agreed to new, “flexible credit and underwriting standards” for minority borrowers which included counting public assistance and food stamps as income in mortgage applications.

      • Stephen Barlow

        You just cut an paste. Works for Me every time. Just copy the whole addy slot for the page you are on.

        I think it’s just a liar’s excuse, but try it the intelligent way and see.

      • Jim Bean

        Key Judgments (CIA report)

        Iraq’s Weapons of Mass Destruction Programs

        Iraq has continued its weapons of mass destruction (WMD) programs in defiance of UN resolutions and restrictions. Baghdad has chemical and biological weapons as well as missiles with ranges in excess of UN restrictions; if left unchecked, it probably will have a nuclear weapon during this decade.

        Baghdad hides large portions of Iraq’s WMD efforts. Revelations after the Gulf war starkly demonstrate the extensive efforts undertaken by Iraq to deny information.

        Since inspections ended in 1998, Iraq has maintained its chemical weapons effort, energized its missile program, and invested more heavily in biological weapons; most analysts assess Iraq is reconstituting its nuclear weapons program.

        Iraq’s growing ability to sell oil illicitly increases Baghdad’s capabilities to finance WMD programs; annual earnings in cash and goods have more than quadrupled.

        Iraq largely has rebuilt missile and biological weapons facilities damaged during Operation Desert Fox and has expanded its chemical and biological infrastructure under the cover of civilian production.

      • Stephen Barlow

        YOu can print someone else’s words just fine, but not their web page data? HUMN????

        What’s the date on this report and the source? 2002

        “We assess that Baghdad has begun renewed production of mustard, sarin, GF (cyclosarin), and VX; its capability probably is more limited now than it was at the time of the Gulf war, although VX production and agent storage life probably have been improved.

        An array of clandestine reporting reveals that Baghdad has procured covertly the types and quantities of chemicals and equipment sufficient to allow limited CW agent production hidden within Iraq’s legitimate chemical industry.

        Although we have little specific information on Iraq’s CW stockpile, Saddam probably has stocked at least 100 metric tons (MT) and possibly as much as 500 MT of CW agents–much of it added in the last year.

        The Iraqis have experience in manufacturing CW bombs, artillery rockets, and projectiles. We assess that they possess CW bulk fills for SRBM warheads, including for a limited number of covertly stored Scuds, possibly a few with extended ranges.”


        THIS IS NOT INTELLIGENCE DATA!!!! it is at best an educated guess based on fear. There is not one SPECK of ACTUAL DATA in this report.

        Kinda looks like it was CUSTOM WRITTEN TO SPECIFICATION for the Bush Administration. Which is probably why it was CLASSIFIED in 2003, to keep the press from finding out the REASON WE WENT TO WAR WERE JUST FRIGGIN’ GUESSES about POSSIBLITIES. not even one single statistical probability in any portion of this farce.

        Lemme remind you that the Bush Administration got the #1 accredited accounting firm in America, Arthur Andersen, to bankrupt itself and commit professional suicide by shredding documents to keep Bush’s name from being linked to the Enron crimes.

        It sure sounds scary and all, but without a SINGLE FACT from ‘scientists’, who live and BREATHE facts and data, I can’t call it more than possible propaganda for war mongering.

      • Stephen Barlow

        YOu are even overstating the premises made in the document you cite as your source. WOW! I am not going to continue your garbage hauling routine with you.

        You have even less “facts ” than Bush said he had here.

        THANKS FOR PROVING MY CASE aboutthe President manufacturing his own ‘facts’.

        It is ALL speculation and fear mongering and YOU are stupid enough to KEEP ON BUYING IT!

      • Stephen Barlow


        You did give me an answer, just more junk of the same quality (and probably a source for the Bush War fraud) as the President’s War for Oil Council had.

      • Jim Bean

        How many were found is not the question. The question is, “Was Stephen Barlow talking smack when he said Bush fabricated the whole idea that Saddam had WMD’s?”

      • Stephen Barlow

        Functional weapons and functioning weapons facilities were never found. ISIS may hold some facilities, but they will never get to the wasted weapons material without dying or blowing it up.

        At the time Bush lied about 30,000 WMD’s, then killed 7000 Americans and maimed 35,000 more, THERE WAS ONLY SUPPOSITION SPUN INTO FEARMONGERING, REVENGE HATE and HYSTERIA.


        Karl Rove even admitted that in his book.

      • Stephen Barlow

        Acorn kicked a lot of racist ass in it’s time. I mean you guys had to fabricate a ‘sting’ to try and discredit them. Then you went an defunded them 7 times during the next 5 years because REdpublicans only have one bill to pass.

      • giankeys LOVES shemale porn

        here is the fun part———- what OVERALL average ( use 2006-2013 for reference) did ALL major American banks have as a PCT% of CDA write off against their profits?
        ( hint: 3 of the top SIX banks profited from that strategy in those 8 yrs)

      • Stephen Barlow

        If that was true, then why didn’t it collapse during the Clinton Economy and administration? Instead, he left a $200 Billion surplus for Bush to give to his friends as tax cunts.

      • Jim Bean

        It took 10 years for the housing bubble to inflate and then burst.

      • giankeys LOVES shemale porn

        wrong answer jimbo—————- according to US TREASURY and economists the “bubble” began in mid 2002
        wanna swing at a pinada for more prizes?

      • Stephen Barlow

        It is true that after the 1st Bush recession in 2001… prices leveled off, but the real estate overvaluations began when the S&L’s were all closed because of Neil Bush and John McCain’s mentor Charles Keating were milking the system ENRON STYLE.

      • giankeys LOVES shemale porn

        correct- that’s why I have often told the DEAF Mr Jimbo that the “bubble” officially began in mid 2002
        jimbo remains silent to hard core facts

      • Stephen Barlow

        But it REALLY began in 1992, after the Resolution Trust corrected the S&L scam. All through the 90’s, home prices escalated and in some cases doubled in those first 8 years.

        My brother and I renovated broken homes during My college years. We even bought 2 condemned properties and gutted the fire damage out to the studs and completely rebuilt them… windows, walls and roof. Made enough to pay My college debts and start a business.

      • Stephen Barlow

        It took 15 years after Neil Bush helped milk the Treasury of $941 Million in the S&L Ripoff. It was the dry run for the Hank Paulsen Ripoff called TARP. Paulsen wrote the Resolution Trust Act, and it took him almost 2 years. He had tARP in his pocket on Sept 21st, 2008 and it was modified slightly and passed into law for BUSH to sign in October.

        You are either delusional, ignorant of reality or just an incredibly foolish liar.

      • Jim Bean

        Barney Frank said all was well.

      • Stephen Barlow

        Bush said that. Barney Frank wanted more regulation and intense scrutiny of mortgage lending and derivative banking investments.

      • giankeys LOVES shemale porn

        so———— if your home is on fire and the police(or fire) chief says its ok,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
        does jimbo sit back and ( as usual) consume vast amounts of liquor??
        face it james– ya hate Obama cause hes African and speaks better than 95% of white trash regressive religious scum

      • Jim Bean

        🙂 See, what happens when Pubs try to do something fiscally prudent is, the Dems call a press conference and march a bunch of sad looking children out on to the stage to stand beside someone who says, “These despicable Republicans want to deprive these poor children of food and shelter.”

      • giankeys LOVES shemale porn

        cutting food stamps while allowing billionaire corporations to pay no taxes is “fiscally prudent”? Hmmmmm,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, yeah: ok= kinda like house repubs blowing 24.1 BILLION on a shutdown ( that worked well for them) or the tens of millions they gave away doing the umpteenth BENGHAZI investigation ( see: trey gowdy after Darrell issa) while quietly saying ( now) that NO MALFEASANCE occurred…
        ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, that fiscal prudence? ( ok jim- I put 50 cents in the ferris wheel; U can spin now)

      • Stephen Barlow

        When and where? A little verification from a proven liar will be required from you from now on.

      • giankeys LOVES shemale porn

        C’mon Stephen!!! jim is just furthering the strategy of FOX “news”!!
        scream lous and often and the lemmings will say ” see? there is the truth”

      • giankeys LOVES shemale porn

        ok class— for 10 points: which administration had the worst economic collapse?
        (a) bush 1
        (b) Clinton
        (c) reagan
        (d) Obama
        (e) gw bush
        for an additional 10 points which administration had the MOST job creation and the least?
        U have 10 minutes to do this test class

      • Jim Bean

        For another 10 points, during which administration did the housing bubble created by Clinton burst?

      • giankeys LOVES shemale porn

        a republican of course, silly man!!! ( note- the “bubble” didn’t start until 2002; ergo ur attempt just washed away upon the vessel named the USS “facts”)
        did I misread; or did jim bean fail to answer the above multiple choice exam?

        now,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, about that ” in god we trust” verbiage upon our currency: what year did that transpire?
        (HINT: U were alive)
        so much for ” founding fathers” wanting JEEEEEESUS stewed in our legislation—!!

      • robingee

        It’s fine to disagree with a President’s policies. But to spread lies (what in the above article is NOT what was said on FOX?) and vow to block him at every turn, and make a big stink about a birth certificate, even after it was proven, and talk about how he is bringing Sharia Law and he is a secret Muslim… does this happen to any other President?

      • giankeys LOVES shemale porn

        pray tell james,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, do U actually think that idiot west has ANY qualifications to be anything other than a FOX “news” contributor? or ben carson???

      • Jim Bean

        Depends on your perspective. From a pragmatic standpoint, no they don’t. But both of them are far more qualified than Obama was/is?

      • giankeys LOVES shemale porn

        not a chance. one is a retired surgeon the other is a loon who CLAIMED to have proof in showing the abundance of “commies” in congress. since U brought it up—- tell me( in detail) why either or BOTH are more qualified that a man ( Obama) who was a senator and a constitutional lawyer and professor. I cant WAIT to hear ( read actually) this comparison. don’t 4get to bring up west wore military boots as a ‘qualification’ or carson won a medal
        and————- I find it INNNNNN-teresting ( that’s how bugs bunny says it) that U didn’t get back to me asking U why religious legislation ( pseudo-CHRISTIAN religious) should be FORCED by “conservatives” in our laws.

      • Jess L Calloway

        Allen West can’t win because he is a teatard. His race does not matter. Only conservatives bring up Obama’s race. You are trying to tie racism to liberals. Fail!

      • Jim Bean

        True, liberals would never accuse anyone of racism. Only conservatives do that.

      • Jess L Calloway

        You were implying that “speechless liberals” would have nothing to say after the black president leaves. Wrong. We are coming for you all. Conservatives try to frame arguments as racist when they are losing.

      • Grand1

        Allen West is not presidential material. Neither is Ted Cruz or Donald Trump.

      • Jim Bean


      • regressive white trash reli

        please……OH PLEASE have west run!!!

      • Jim Bean

        It would expose tens of millions of Left wing race-baiters as racist themselves. It wouldn’t be pretty.

      • regressive white trash reli

        it would expose the rightwing tea party as ignorant; so let me include ben “god talks to me” carson to PLEEEEZ run as GOP candidate.
        NO GOP or tea party person scares me at this writing; especially with ALL numbers showing America moving away from the GW bush socio-economic disaster . 5% GDP anyone???

    • Stephen Barlow

      LMAO!!!! SO disgustingly true. Disgusting because it IS true. WHY does no one wanna talk about OBAMA’S MAMA?

      This guy is half white, which is poor copy, but much more accurate and less inflammatory than billing this Ringling Bros Side Show as:

      “The First African-American President of the United States of America”

      Oddly enough, THIS man is ACTUALLY of African decent, unlike 99% of those who claim this PC label. Second, the ‘American’ part is a Constitutional REQUIREMENT, not just half of an adjective. No one will ever see an African-Canadian President or a Mexican-Australian President.

      Thanks for the clever English.

      • RayandFannie Esparza

        Dollars top do-nuts Steve will vote for that Cuban-Canadian for President…,

      • Stephen Barlow

        Me, NOPE! I an voting “Tits and ass” for PREZ all the way!!! Even if they are droopy.

      • Rhonda Pope Maddux

        What an idiot.

    • giankeys LOVES shemale porn

      and being lefthanded– and we regressive religious cretins KNOW that’s the sign of satan

    • Chomper Lomper Tawee

      I don’t know why he doesn’t just stop being black!, It would make it a lot easier on everyone..

    • user598486

      Obama is not black. He is Arab-American not African-American. Why else does he openly support the muslim brotherhood and the terrorist. He is not for the black people in the U.S. or any other ethnic group.

      He has no real identity. He is half-white, which he rejects. The rest of him is mostly Arab, which he hides but is disclosed by his non-African Arabic surname and his Arabic first and middle names as a way to triply proclaim his Arabic parentage to people in Kenya. Only a small part of him is African Black from his Luo grandmother, which he pretends he is exclusively.

      What he isn’t, not a genetic drop of, is ‘African-American,’ the descendant of enslaved Africans brought to America chained in slave ships. He hasn’t a single ancestor who was a slave. Instead, his Arab ancestors were slave owners. Slave-trading was the main Arab business in East Africa for centuries until the British ended it.

      Let that sink in: Obama is not the descendant of slaves, he is the descendant of slave owners. Thus he makes the perfect Liberal Messiah.

      I have Muslim members of my family. I have lived in Muslim countries.

      Barack Obama

      The Muslim Arabs began the African Slave Trade, which brought Black Slaves to our country. The Arab Muslims captured the Black Africans, in West Africa and then sold them to Europeans on the African Coast. Many of them ended in Colonial America. Is Slavery the contribution to America, by Muslims, which B. Hussein Obama is talking about?? Muslims initiated the Black African Slave Trade, thus, the Black Muslims are a total contradiction to logic for them to be Muslims.*

      *P.S.: Wake up, Folks! Don’t you all now that” the name Hussein, in Barack Hussein Obama, is a very Muslim name??” Don’t you know that B. Hussein Obama’s Father and Step-Father were both Muslims all their lives??*

      Also, Barrack was the name of Mohammad’s horse on whom he supposedly ascended to heaven! From the rock that is now “The Dome of the Rock “on top of the Temple mount I might add, which is why the Muslims lay claim to the top of temple mount!

      • giankeys LOVES shemale porn

        duuuude,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,I haven’t smoked in 27 yrs; but U HAVE 2 send me some of that GANJA U puff!! I need the same psychedelics U enjoy!!! do they make good brownies; or do U just do Olympic size bong hits all day with your white bread baloney and mayo sandwiches>>>???
        I didn’t know U had such “timothy leary” insights!!!! BE MY MAHARISHI YOGI !!!!

    • MS

      True, true, true

    • Please dispense with adding -tard to any word. It makes you seem no better than those -tards you revile.

    • Edward Marshall

      Are you stupid or are you bereft of the thruth? When you agree that Republicans are doing more to devide this country, I will listen to your side.

  • Jim Bean

    Obama and company divided America when he told Joe the plumber, ‘you didn’t build that.’ –Called American businesses soft and lazy and said they’d lost their ambition; they didn’t build that; they need to up their game.

    –Baselessly accused the Chamber of Commerce of accepting foreign contributions and said it had the burden of proving it did not.

    –Said Mitt Romney, in effect, killed a lady who lost her insurance.

    –Say the “wealthy” aren’t paying their fair share.

    –Stepped on the conscience protections of people of faith and attacked a Lutheran school’s right to hire and fire on religious grounds.

    –Use “gay rights” as a wedge issue and depict opponents of same-sex marriage as bigots.

    –Manufactured a phony GOP “War on Women.”

    –Say Republicans want dirty air and dirty water and rejoice when people lose their insurance coverage, that they want a smaller America and don’t believe in rebuilding roads and bridges, that they are hostage takers and Slurpee sippers. He says they created this mess, and they should sit in the backseat of the car. We’ll have hand-to-hand combat with them on Capitol Hill, and if they bring a knife, we’ll bring a gun.

    –Crammed Obamacare down the throats of a strongly opposed majority.

    –Continue to scare seniors, the “middle class” and the “poor” into believing Republicans want to destroy Medicare.

    –Publicly ridiculed and demonized the Supreme Court on multiple occasions.

    –Disparaged hedge fund managers as “playing with other people’s money.”

    –Vilified immigration enforcement advocates as racists.

    –Waged a war against states on immigration and voter ID laws.

    –Worked against military ballots.

    –Lawlessly rewrote loans in the GM and Chrysler restructurings to favor unions and cheat secured creditors; and in Solyndra, to subordinate taxpayers to private investors.

    –Exploited race and minority relations for political purposes and for ideological reasons, including Eric Holder calling the nation cowards on race, racializing voter intimidation laws and saying the GOP was after him on Fast and Furious because he, like Obama, is an African American; appealing to Hispanics and blacks to vote as a bloc for Democrats because Democrats are their friends and Republicans their enemies; and accusing the GOP of supporting voter ID laws to suppress the minority vote and immigration laws for racial reasons.

    • Sandy Greer

      Well, that’s quite a list, Jim Bean! Enough to bring me out of hibernation.

      Some of your points have merit; some don’t. Too many to speak to, that’s for sure. At least, for me. I wouldn’t know where to begin.

      But I suppose – if I were going to oppose Prez Obama – it would be on the Constitutional issues. Over-reach. Drone strikes. Guantanamo. But that’s just me.

      Because your list of grievances (lengthy, and impressive as they may be) can in no way measure up to Clifton. Two rants on Fox News today alone (he’s got a ‘thing’ for Fox) Endless diatribes on The Right. Assorted bitch-fests on Rush, Palin, Nugent…

      You got a long way to go when it comes to petty lists of grievances, Jim Bean.

      But. I’m putting a ‘like’ on your post. Not because I agree. We both know I don’t. But because you’ve got balls. Male or female – I admire people who’ve got balls.

      You think I could get an avatar outta you, Jim Bean? 😉

      • giankeys LOVES shemale porn

        jimbo never give Obama credit for anything– even when I articulate total proven-and provable- facts to him; he spins into something mirroring temulent incoherency. He is as all regressive are– concrete in view; using the fuels of hatred to rocket away from any and all truths.
        HI SANDY!!! one day I will tell U about my username and photo here– its so silly yet poignant

    • Jo Clark

      LOL!! What a total crock of Fox crap! I won’t even waste my time refuting your ridiculous spew.

    • giankeys LOVES shemale porn

      u are amazing james,,,,,,,simply amazing
      sounds like U agree with the authors point and say “nanny nanny boo-boo…………”
      bottom line? this president and his policies have made the PRIOR administration policies look foolish and destructive. PROOF? look at our economy since bush left and where it is now heading— with NO HELP from white trash regressive scumbag republicans in congress—-NO HELP

    • Sue Roediger

      Every bit of that misinformation got into your brain via Fox “news”…….

      • Jim Bean

        Just because information is available from Fox that is not available from the Obama-friendlies does not mean it is ‘mis’-information.

      • Sue Roediger

        things invented at Faux News — hardly qualify as “information”. They have admitted that they are and “entertainment” show — not a news show………..I swear it almost as satirical as The Onion.

    • Jess L Calloway

      This is a discussion about how fox news lies. You then bring up a bunch of half-truths, lies, and false arguments. I would debate them with you, but you would bring up fox news talking points.

      • Jim Bean

        Smartest thing you’ve done today.

      • Jess L Calloway

        You sound scared. Most of that crap you posted above is debunked talking points. Do you really want me to take them apart? How much time you got?

      • Jim Bean

        No lies. Just truths rejected.

  • Nick Wride

    Fox “News”: We Decieve, You Believe.

  • dutch163

    yes we know FOX tries to skew their “news”, we knew someone who was a “contributor” during the 2008 election..before he went on air, he was asked “do you have anything good to say about McCain? anything bad to say about Obama?”

  • Ann Smith

    They are sooo stupid they couldn’t get a job anywhere but at Fox!!

  • Stephen Barlow

    Allen ol’ buddy, this is low hanging fruit man. I know it’s the doldrums of journalism season out there, but Israel leaving the peace talks and Putin sending Aid in 200 trucks in one convoy and sneaking 20 trucks of guns and bullets across the Ukraine border with the other hand as REAL uncovered stories.

  • freshman22

    Fox news is all hate all the time.They act like Obama is GOD.Sees all hear all.I blame Republicans for Ferguson,Mo

  • jsweeneycz

    Right on as always, Allen Clifton!

  • Rickie elliott

    FOX is not fair and balanced and neither are any of the others. Some are not merely outlets for WH press releases but have their collective noses so far up Obama’s bum that if they have a cold Obama’s nose runs.

    • Jess L Calloway

      The point is they don’t purposely lie. When Fox does not like a fact that confirms their narrative, they lie. That is not news. Reporting on the president is news.

  • user598486

    An NBC producer has been fired who took part in the production of the doctored and misleading George Zimmerman tape. Sorry, but this tape was not only misleading, it was deceptive. The audio segment in question was shown on NBC’s “Today” show on March 27, 2012. The audio included George Zimmerman making comments regarding Trayvon Martin saying, “This guy looks like he’s up to no good. He looks black.” However, what NBC broadcast on air was nothing of what actually happened as they took Zimmerman’s word out of context and edited out the 9-11 dispatchers questions. NBC had opened an internal investigation after it was shown that the edited and inflammatory audio segment that was played resembled nothing of the original 9-11 tape between the operator and Zimmerman.

    • giankeys LOVES shemale porn

      hows that cliven bundy “patriot” FOX “news” ‘thang’ doin’ 4 ya???

  • user598486

    All the liberal commies leaving comments..Most don’t even know what there talking about..Most don’t even know there communist…

    • giankeys LOVES shemale porn

      hey new troll,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, as with all white trash regressive “tea party” PATRIOTS,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, U misspelled a VERRRRRRY simple word:
      ‘THEY’RE is correct,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, not ‘THERE’– please fix your post so we don’t die laughing at your empirical brilliance
      now—————— about your BENGHAZI Tshirt: what size do U squeeze into? extra stupid?

    • Jess L Calloway

      The story is about Fox lying. You bring up liberal commies. Calling people names with no proof is a false argument. Do you work for Fox?

  • Indiana Emma

    Who wrote this? Are you 12 years old? You “pretty much” need to go back to high school English class. And read some of those stories that made you “so mad!’ again. You will see that there is no “there” there.

  • cheetohman

    This article would have been a lot better if it listed more examples of how Fox News is screwing us up.

    But then again, the actual list would take three weeks to read.

  • SuperDelicate

    Fox is a disease attacking the American people and they should be treated as such before it’s too late.

  • MS

    Truly, unfair and unbalanced. And spewing their hateful filth.

  • Jerry Graybosch

    The FOX News agenda is set by Roger Ailes, who honed his craft at the feet of Lee Atwater. Atwater repented and apologized after his terminal brain cancer was diagnosed. Ailes at 74 is running out of time. They perfected to use of wedge issues, and their overriding philosophy is that facts are irrelevant …only winning is important.

  • Ticktock

    Jim beam, you have been drinking to much of it and watching to much Nostradumbass.

  • Muranzo

    CNN does just as much to divide us as FOX does. Just because you agree with CNN doesn’t mean they aren’t biased.

    • Economic_Refugee

      Who watches CNN when we have Yahoo News.

  • Economic_Refugee

    I wish they would bring back counting down arrows.

  • RayandFannie Esparza

    Wonder if Fix News is where the GOP Congress people get all their information….

  • Laurissa Graves

    In total primteime viewers, Fox nearly doubled the Leftwing CNN and MSNBC combined.
    Fox had almost as many viewers as CNN and MSNBC combined.
    Fox is also up 12% over this same quarter last year.
    MSNBC sunk a whopping 21%…..Go figure.

    • regressive teaparty trash

      and,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, for those white trash regressives using a cartoon of a buxom woman ( which HE– “laurissa graves” will never taste) keeping score- allow this extrapolation:
      FOX “news” has more watchers– TRUE!!
      McDonalds sells more,,,,more,,,more,,,,”food” ( description debatable)
      Meghan Trainor sells more “music” ( recently) than any other artist
      Nicki Minaj is most popular “artist” (now)
      shall we evoke the comarisons,,,,,,,,,,,,,, or will this suffice to show the socio-economic ineptitude of americans?
      Now,,,,,,,,,,,,,, lets toss away the fulsome bloviating about FOX “news” captivating the money and ‘viewmanship’ of the white trash regressive religious inbred scum of America,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, and we can ascend to the ratiocination of discussing the GOP VS DEM policies–and results OF those policies–over the past 25 yrs? shall we??
      Hmmmm? nice symposium; just ” you and me”?
      play ball!

  • Kevin

    Faux didn’t seem to start out as a propaganda station but in retrospect I can see how it did. First, the founder was not even an American. CNN founder was so let’s be clear on that as in who was born in which nation.

    Faux is not a news station. Some can call it an entertainment station since it’s high ratings domestically are based on entertainment type ratings not news ratings where it wins in that area but CNN has over ONE BILLION viewers & be sure in each hour CNN has more people tune in than Faux every will with their Unique viewers so CNN always wins hands-down & no need for them to constantly tell people that. Faux has a need to lie since if they say it enough, someone might believe it but Faux needs to be taken off the air UNLESS it starts to put up a warning stating this is political commentary not news so viewers beware! Faux does not enjoy freedom of the press as CNN does because it’s a political machine not protected by the constitution in the form it is going.

    Hitler pulled this same BS dividing the people through ANGER & HATE on the Radio & newspapers. Faux is no different in that regard. Faux has two kinds of viewers of its 40 million viewers mostly domestic compared to over one BILLION that CNN has. 1) Right wing idiots who actually have their kids watch that garbage when they should be having family time or working! 2) Those curious or who are jotting down advertisers to boycott!

    FCC is coming down hard on radical radio and oxy Rush doesn’t like that so he wants to sue Democrats. Good luck with that oxy. Even he is smart enough to know better so it’s for publicity to get more money like any preacher passing the plate since like all those on Faux, he never earned a dime. He just gets money from unsuspecting ignorant & bigots.

    People have caught onto Faux. Notice how Republicans can now only win when they oust those like Palin and the right wing by replacing them with moderates? In 2-4 years, Republicans won’t be able to get elected to anything because there will be 40 new million citizens registered as Democrats and they will vote in midterms unlike Democrats now. Democrats outnumber Republicans but often don’t show to vote in midterms. We Independents vote but we vote by the person not party.

    I do a full background check which includes criminal background & if one has a history of anti-gay, black or some other bigoted problem, that one is out. I want center or just left of center on domestic topics then center & just right of center on International topics. Most other Americans are the same which is called mainstream which means majority which means democracy which is what faux hates. They hate it so much they try to demonize the word mainstream. Doing so has harmed them.

    5 years from now there will either be no Faux or a new kind of faux & there won’t be radical radio like ya have now. Regulators are now going in and shutting stations down. 2015 will be a big year for that so they better get off the radical BS or they are going off the air.

    As for my home; Faux is blocked per channel & no radical radio allowed on be it left or right wing. I do not want talk of politics in my home unless it is summer of a convention & election year or a couple months before a midterm. I won’t allow obsessions in my home. I protect children as well as adults who simly don’t know better.

  • Rhonda Pope Maddux

    I cannot believe these backward comments. Who ARE you?

  • Bill O’Reilly

    Fox News is the best news channel out there. They speak the truth and nothing but the truth. I know first hand because I was in the war-zone in the Balkans. All of you liberal lefty commies need to get the hell out of the country and go join Putin and his regime

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  • Fran Munschauer

    Does anyone flip channels? Compare Network and cable news: ABC,NBC,CBS,CNN,AND MSNBC to the most hateful corrupt and provacature of divisiveness= FOX. Note when all networks show our POTUS speaking, quickly see what’s on FOX. FOX purposely skips noteworthy events if it favors “WE THE People”Never do they inspire citizens to come together. While other news channels gather to heal and share the ;positive aspects we share, Fox deliberates to get their viewers to hate hate and hate.more… And so their viewers remain ignorant to the “real world” . It is so sad. The failed Jeanine Pirro just blamed Black Lives Matter, Obama, Blacks and protesters for Dallas attacks. Mentioned concerns by guests were demeaned or cut off when they did not follow HER script. FOX is at the root of much of the divide among Americans. It’s time for FOX TO GO!!! #GetRidOfFoxNews @GetRidOf FoxNews #GetRidOfFoxNewsandGetRidGetRidOfHate

  • Elliot Wilson

    MSNBC is doing the exact same thing, as well as CNN to a much lesser extent. They built up Panders to be the underdog who might actually be able to take down Hillary Clinton even though he NEVER stood a snowball’s chance in HELL of winning the nomination, and as a result, they split moderate liberals with the fanatic liberals who backed him. They didn’t cover the dirt in his past, they painted him as “the white knight in shining armor” while Hillary Clinton “had baggage,” “was unlikable,” and “shouting loudly.” MSNBC and CNN divided Democrats worse than we had ever seen simply for the sake of ratings and sexism. The truly surreal thing is that FOX NEWS treated Hillary Clinton more fairly and Panders more objectively. That is the kind of rabbit hole we live in now. You can’t trust ANY of the cable “news” networks. Not a single one. They’re owned by the corporations, and that makes them part of the right-wing propaganda machine.

  • Sylvia Welman

    PBS News hour no spin, no partisan poison.