Fox News Host Embarrassed After Blatant Lie About Keystone XL Pipeline Gets Debunked

anna-kooiman-fox-newsThe Keystone XL pipeline is one of the many Republican lies that just won’t die. If you listen to Republicans tell the story, this is some massive job creator that would help the United States become energy independent.


The problem is, neither of those claims are true.

It’s absurd that Republicans have billed this as having something to do with American energy independence. This is Canadian oil that’s going to be funneled down to the Gulf of Mexico to be shipped and sold on the global market, with much of it most likely going to China.

Let me repeat, this is not American oil being transported for American use. It’s Canadian oil being transported to be sold on the global market at whatever price oil happens to be at during that time.

And it will not create tens of thousands of jobs as Fox News host Anna Kooiman tried to claim; a statement Politifact rated as “Mostly False.”

Kooiman recently said on Fox & Friends, “And if you would just approve the Keystone XL pipeline, there would be tens of thousands of jobs created.”

This is a lie that’s been debunked before.

At best this project will create a few thousand temporary jobs spread out over two years. And that doesn’t mean temporary jobs that last two years. It means a few jobs that might last 6 weeks, while some others might last six months.

Not to mention when this “tens of thousands” number is used Republicans fail to mention that many of those “jobs” are speculative based on indirect job creation such as hotels or restaurants. But, again, those are temporary jobs – any boost to local economies via the construction of this pipeline would be very short and end after two years.


The reality of the Keystone XL pipeline and job creation is that when all is said and done, it’ll create somewhere between 35-50 permanent jobs.

Yeah, that’s the “big job creator” Republicans have been harping on about for years. Heck, you could create more permanent jobs than that by just opening one Applebees.

As we all know, this isn’t about creating jobs, it’s about the GOP kissing up to big oil just like they always do. But being that Republicans are masters at propaganda, they’ve somehow convinced tens of millions of conservatives that Canadian oil will help America become more energy independent and a single pipeline will somehow magically create tens of thousands of jobs – even though the reason why oil companies build these pipelines is because they don’t require many people to operate them.

It’s a good thing for Republicans that conservatives are often so gullible, because it takes a truly naive person to believe the total nonsense they’ve been pushing about this pipeline these last few years.



Allen Clifton

Allen Clifton is a native Texan who now lives in the Austin area. He has a degree in Political Science from Sam Houston State University. Allen is a co-founder of Forward Progressives and creator of the popular Right Off A Cliff column and Facebook page. Be sure to follow Allen on Twitter and Facebook, and subscribe to his channel on YouTube as well.

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  • disqus_aMh2cY7IyR

    The CEO of the Canadian oil company(with 40% or higher Chinese ownership) stated clearly in an interview a couple years ago,the low number of permanent jobs to be created,and that the oil was to be shipped overseas to china…NOTHING was slated for the U.S.!

    • theyak47

      Do you have a link to this? Or info how to find it?
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      • Wayseer

        Do your own research, or turn on Faux Snooze like you usually do. They will tell you all they want you to think!

      • Edwin

        You should cut cable TV, Wayseer. Your life would improve. Or put a block on Fox channel. It’s going to shorten your life span.

      • Wayseer

        LAMO. FAUX SNOOZE! That’s a Red Show. I’d rather be dead than Red!

      • steve barlow

        Than die asshole

      • Wayseer

        I am not trading quips with an Idiot. Go back to Israel and kill some more women an children.

    • AbbeyRoadkill

      All the studies say this pipeline will have no effect at all on US gas prices. None.

      • jqanderson1

        Really? The Chinese want the oil refined here before it’s shipped. Our refineries are overworked already. What will happen when they have to start refining that dirty oil? They will start shutting down the refineries and converting them to convert that dirty oil. Those refineries converted won’t be available to refine our gas. The oil companies win no matter what.

      • Michael Hill

        The oil will be refines in Koch Brothers owned refineries in TexASS. Not in any other state.

      • DavidD

        Your comment says more about you than it does about us.
        You are playing the GOP divide and conquer game for your own emotional gratification not to advance any agenda..

    • regressive teaparty trash

      there U go again,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
      ——————————–……………….. annoying regressive republicans with FACTS

  • Shannon Thompson

    I highly doubt she’s embarrassed by that lie cause she clearly isn’t embarrassed by where she works.

    • Marilyn Olsen Scheffler

      Good one Shannon!!

      • Edwin

        Anna just ran the NYC Marathon and raised $50,000 for the families of military heroes.

        She’s a beautiful woman and a great person.

      • suburbancuurmudgeon

        She should stick to running marathons instead of her mouth.

      • Edwin

        More misogyny from a liberal Neanderthal who thinks it’s funny to bash women on this site because as long as it’s done to a conservative, no one will care.

      • Hagbard Celine

        How is it misogyny to criticize one woman for telling a blatant lie? I don’t think you understand the definition of the word.

      • regressive teaparty trash

        Edwin is a brand new profile; hence——another useless white trash regressive troll who got banished — using a myriad of OTHER troll profiles– and now is back. EDWINs FIRST comment was 6 hours ago
        =====================================
        easy 2 spot trolls

      • Edwin

        You troll as a liberal on a liberal blog by never, ever commenting on topic. You’re the very epitome of a troll. Also, your grammar is atrocious. You’d never pass 4th grade.

        Seriously, I’ve never seen a woman with such poor grammatical skills such as you’ve displayed here. Most women are more careful and conscientious about their writing. You’re not at all.

        At least you’re here, though. Most liberal women who happen upon this blog are appalled by the misogyny displayed by progressive men and quickly leave.

      • regressive teaparty trash

        hey kreskin: that’s a photo of a girlfriend of mine— “Ronnie”( veronica) velasquez,,,,,,,,,,,,,, shes as tired of U small dicked regressive repub white trash trolls as I am–
        ========================================
        now– shall we chit chat about your new TROLL profile?

      • steve barlow

        You are a freak. Fuck off

      • Gary Menten

        Is that the pot calling the kettle black?

      • Edwin

        I’ve met a lot of very strange progressives in my day, but never one who posts his girlfriend in a swimsuit as his avatar.

        That one pretty much takes the cake for perverseness.

        Congrats to you, freak.

      • Gary Menten

        Maybe you should limit your conversations to trolls like youcantgetridofmethateasy or Steve Barlow then. The three of you have sooooo much in common.

      • Edwin

        Gary,

        You’re obsessing over me. It’s weird and unwelcome. Find another passion that consumes you. Like ice fishing or curling, perhaps.

      • Gary Menten

        I’m not obsessing about you at all, merely pointing out your hypocrisy.

      • Edwin

        Go back to bed, you’re still drunk.

      • Gary Menten

        Seriously? Is that the best you have? It’s so early in the morning and you’re already stooping to unfounded ad hominem attacks? If you criticize “regressive” for being off topic, why don’t you equally condemn the two clowns I just mentioned for being off-topic, bigoted and frankly disgusting? You seem to have incredible double standards, not to mention a complete inability to defend any statement you make with facts.

      • steve barlow

        Pot meet kettle. Fook you

      • Gary Menten

        Again, another brilliant, completely intellectual reply….(massive sarcasm.)

      • regressive teaparty trash

        another OY HUMID easy2spot aspersion——— same two losers using different profiles
        ========================================
        lewwwwwwwwww—-zherrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

      • Gary Menten

        Oohhh, you’ve come to the wrong shop if you want to say foolish things and not have your statement challenged.

      • Edwin

        You aren’t challenging, you’re just asking inane questions.

        #Fail

      • Gary Menten

        Evasion. Fail.

      • Edwin

        I’m trying to think of ways you could possibly be any more boring, but drawing blanks.

        Surprise me.

      • Gary Menten

        You aren’t only drawing blanks, you are firing them as well. About the safest place to be in the world is in front of one of your salvos.

      • Edwin

        You did it!

      • Gary Menten

        Yawn. Try again, but load your weapon this time.

      • steve barlow

        You are an obsessive Gay Man with lots of pent up anger. We’re you abused?

      • Gary Menten

        Totally straight, no anger, never abused. You’re projecting your own life on mine again.

      • regressive teaparty trash

        again— “steve” and Edwin are the same person; the writing style ( or evident lack of) proves it
        ==========================================
        troll away; little fella—troll away

      • The Dark Avenger

        God, I would kicks your ass

      • regressive teaparty trash

        really? wow— that’s why your “bravery” included photos of thyself?
        ========================================
        U are small yet fat; balding and cannot get a woman
        ======================================

      • regressive teaparty trash

        seems that u / youcantgetridofmethateasy ( see: OY HUMID new troll profile(s) ) are recherché in your obsessive quotidian replies to gary and I
        ==========================================
        and; delightfully abuuuuused by both of us!

      • The Dark Avenger

        Not only is your girl obese but you are a fat fookin load with female hair. You fookin loser

      • steve barlow

        Gary- how about you get yourself a job, loser. You were never defending MY great country. You are a lair.

      • Gary Menten

        Who said I was defending your country? And it’s not so great incidentally. Too many idiots like you are ruining it.

      • Gary Menten

        I’m quite certain I earn more money than you do and pay higher taxes. In fact, I’m sure I pay more in taxes than you earn which is nothing since you demonstrate less intellect than a six-year old.

      • steve barlow

        You earn 0 income or should I say Tuni’s, eh? Easy to beat

      • Gary Menten

        That which is stated without evidence…..

      • Gary Menten

        Actually, it’s “Looney” which should be easy for you to remember since it just like “loony” which is a perfect description of you.

      • regressive teaparty trash

        both of them are quite special!!! ( same person/ same infantile writing style)
        ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, income? they wish!

      • Gary Menten

        Well, they share the same brain cell, at any rate.

      • Gary Menten

        And the common weak spot is that neither / He (whatever) has ever kissed a girl. Whenever I point this out, the challenge goes unanswered, suggesting that he/they have no ideal what it’s like. (heaven)

      • greenlee24

        Seriously Gary, I know how tempting it can be, but just ignore the inanity, it’s what they want. It’s all any bully wants; a reaction. You’re feeding the trolls. If none of their posts get responses, they’ll get bored of typing at themselves.

      • regressive teaparty trash

        agreed
        ===================================
        please read that article I mentioned in my other reply 2 U

      • Gary Menten

        I’ve come to that conclusion as well.

      • The Dark Avenger

        You are a fookin Candian dick head. You have no life, spend it all on this blog and have serious mental issues. Get a fookin life.

      • Gary Menten

        Troll garbage. Come back when you have something grown up to say.

      • The Dark Avenger

        Fook off, you loser. You must have been picked on as a child

      • Paul Duca

        Not that his great country ever returned the favor…

      • Wayseer

        You say that to all the Vet’s, you are a disgrace to your country.

      • regressive teaparty trash

        new troll profile STEV barlow is a disgrace to his own low IQ inbred family; as also to his country

      • The Dark Avenger

        You still banging your brother, you fookin queer?

      • regressive teaparty trash

        ^^^^^ OY HUMID & STEVE BARLOW new TROLL^^^

      • Wayseer

        You just might be right Steve Barlow, where is your Country?

      • Gary Menten

        What’s his country? I think you mean what’s his planet?

      • The Dark Avenger

        He means. I own this country. Fook you

      • Gary Menten

        Troll-garbage. come back when you have something grown up to say.

      • The Dark Avenger

        My country isn’t yours douche bag

      • Wayseer

        Wheew, Cuz I spent 23 years in the US Army with two wars and I am releived I didn’t make any sacrifices for your kind. I would of course, but I just feel better that I didn’t.

      • Canadian Horse

        Your ass hurts. You wish that we allowed you to defend MY USA.

      • Wayseer

        Where do you keep that USA of yours? Is that USAma bin Laden?

      • Gary Menten

        “Canadian Horse” is the internet troll formerly known as Steve Barlow, and a couple of other names. I suspect he gets kicked off every couple of days for his potty-mouthed, low IQ posts.

      • regressive teaparty trash

        I will——————– shall we discuss job creation by repub presidents VS democrat presidents in the last 25 yrs???
        maybe deficits ( and in Clintons case ) surplus?

      • Edwin

        Maybe later, Pervy. Off to the gym.

      • regressive teaparty trash

        another serious spin away from facts
        ==================================
        I know U do NOT visit any gym

      • Edwin

        You don’t know your rear end from your elbow, much less the first thing about me, Pervis.

        And you presented no facts. None. Zero.

      • regressive teaparty trash

        hey eddddy baybee———— with your constant re-posting to gary and myself ( among others) we ostensibly see you as the obsessed one……
        keep crying/ keep trying

      • Edwin

        Yes, ostensibly.

        Hahaha. You’re an idiot.

      • regressive teaparty trash

        mainly————— anger and easy2spot stupidity
        ——————————————————————-
        PRAISE JEEEESUS!!! vote GOP

      • regressive teaparty trash

        possibly ‘ cause U don’t have a girlfriend?
        ====================================
        awwww………da widdle puddycat: he faw down(again) an’ go BOOM

      • Edwin

        No, I don’t have a girlfriend, Pervis. A wife of 26 years, but no girlfriend.

        Also unlike you, I don’t sniff around in my daughters’ underwear drawers and check out their bra sizes so I can post that info on the Internet as some sort of testimony to my masculinity.

        Good God, you are a f’ing

        #FREAK.

      • regressive teaparty trash

        ahhhhhh!!!! U did create a new profile!!! I missed ya!

      • youcantgetridofmethateasy

        So Mr. Trash, you’ve referenced her as “a girlfriend of mine”. Does that mean she is but one of many? What other posters do you have hanging on your bedroom wall?

      • steve barlow

        I have a feeling that he is a pedophile. Just imagine that disease and pictures

      • youcantgetridofmethateasy

        Like Joe Spinell’s Frank Zito in the 1980 film ‘Maniac’? Trash is killing young women and putting their scalps on mannequins which he displays around his apartment?
        I wondered if those photos on his website looked a little too plastic.

      • regressive teaparty trash

        wow—!!! u always have such insight–( based of course upon YOUR impalpable reasoning) ,,,,,,seems TROLLs such as you( OY HUMID/STEVE BARLOW/ ITISOBAMSFAULT ad nauseum) always bring such a welcome degree of 3rd grade nascency to these blogs! we love it!
        =========================================
        I— humbly of course– enjoy your recrudesce as shown by the poor way U attempt to attack; seems jethroe bodine is your writer/sage?
        you would hate where I live: 350 yards from the emerald and warm atlantic ocean in pompano beach FL; sitting several floors up- balcony facing all of natures refulgent splendor whilst knowing that YOU and your other poetastric TROLL profile are stuck in some land-locked area that only white TROLL such as you are forced ( financially) to dwell in
        **********************************************************
        new photo— !!! here is me ( again) so U can see exactly ( and I mean E.X.A.C.T.L.Y.) what a ream man looks like; one who has garnered the intimate affections of slender LARGE breasted women all of his( my) adult life–
        (NOTE: photo taken in august in Arizona while on vacation; please notice the 1 year old pet argentine TEGU I am helping avoid the pull of gravity!)
        write back soon,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, comment on my physique and maybe my long flowing hair?
        ( which I suspect U have neither of!!)

      • The Dark Avenger

        Hey douche bag,

        You have serious mental issues

      • regressive teaparty trash

        TOTOTOTALLY!!!!!!!!!!!
        ………………… that’s what makes me ” speshul”

      • Gary Menten

        The “Dark Avenger” is Steve (Sugarbritches) Barlow, an unpopular little girl masquerading as a man.

      • Canadian Horse

        Bring it eh. You fookin dumb Canadian, eh

      • Gary Menten

        Troll post. Come back when you have something grown up to say.

      • Canadian Horse

        You are a LOSER. Fook off

      • Gary Menten

        Troll garbage. come back when you have something grown up to say.

      • Canadian Horse

        You Candian douche bag, eh

      • regressive teaparty trash

        that’s IVAN RENKO/ OY HUMID/ etc TROLL— he mustve gotten tossed off for 40th time; now his username is mocking you! well done gary,,,well done!!!

      • Gary Menten

        No sense wasting time with that idiot when there are much more interesting idiots out there that need a bit of correction.

      • The Dark Avenger

        Your lover is a fat fookin piece of shit ass. Also, you look like a fookin loser. You have no money, unemployed and a fookin world class loser.

      • regressive teaparty trash

        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ HEYYYY LOOOOKIE!!^^^^^^
        ***************************************************
        ^^^ OY HUMID has a BRAND new(er) profile^^^^^
        OY HUMID now starring in several loser NEW profiles!
        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
        PRAISE JEEEEEEESUS!!!

      • regressive teaparty trash

        has replied!!!
        ( bravely; of course)

      • The Dark Avenger

        You are in Canada fucking that queer Gary in the ass

      • Canadian Horse

        Here is the deal douche bag. You are ugly and fat, your girl is ugly and obese and you are unemployed, sucking of the gov’t nipples for income. You should be embarrassed you fookin loser

      • regressive teaparty trash

        ^^^^ OY HUMID former name of NEW^^^TROLL^^^PROFILE^^^^^
        new ^^^^ troll profile^^^^,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, lets give him a warm south florida welcome back as his STEVE BARLOW profile was banished along with OY HUMID profile
        ======================================
        try to last more than 2 days …. will ya?

      • regressive teaparty trash

        “I have a feeling he is a pedophile”……………………….I love how ALL of you NEWLY made white trash regressive crybaby chitchat about stuff that—it seems–you want in your nugatory life. Hows the NEW “TROLL” profile holding up? after all; its take regressive “no life” imagination–and imaginings– to keep the constancy of having all 3(?) anomalous personas afloat!
        ********************************************************
        write back soon,,,,,,,,,,,,,, tell us all how we need to get jobs; or how our girlfriend(s) ate trannys….or how PATRIOTIC you are ! we LOVE the ephemeral entertainment you provide!
        PRAISE ( white 21st century republican) JEEEEEEEESUS!

      • greenlee24

        Dude, just stop responding. It’s exactly what they want; you’re feeding the trolls.

      • regressive teaparty trash

        occasionally I like provoking the low IQ trolls,,,,,,,,,,,
        ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
        now- for something relevant: please read “Americas conservative road to destruction; a brief history” posted on THE BLUE ROUTE aug 10 2014 by Bruce Bacon
        **********************************************************
        phenomenal reading ; a MUST read to educate as 2 what exactly is going on

      • Jaim-o

        What is going on is Republicans just mopped the floor with Democrat tears.

      • regressive teaparty trash

        ^^^^^ another brand new TROLL ^^^^^ profile
        ==========================================
        awww,,,,did that mean ol’ moderator throw U off before???

      • Jaim-o

        Get a haircut, hippie.

      • regressive teaparty trash

        not a chance,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,the ladies LOVE it; and most guys hate it as they aren’t keeping theirs
        =======================================
        should I stop weight training and playing basketball and surfing also? Hmmmmmm,,,,,,,,,,,

      • regressive teaparty trash

        not a chance!!! the REAL women LOVE it; and men hate it ( jealousy),,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
        maybe I should stop weight training and playing basketball and surfing toooooooo? awwww,,,,,,,,,,,,, jaim-O the troll is crying again

      • Canadian Horse

        Maybe you should find a barber. Zumbas and Mullets went out in the 80’s. I guess fatty has a big old fat bush for you?

      • regressive teaparty trash

        ^^^^^^ NEW troll ^^^PROFILE^^^^^
        formerly STEVE BARLOW ( banished) and OY HUMID (banished) now hes baaaaack…………….hes baaaaaack
        ========================================
        ^^ new TROLL profile^^^^^^^^^
        …..let all welcome him back; he wont be staying very long

      • Canadian Horse

        Wow, did you forget your medicine? Where is fatty? She doing the ab roller? Stop using Google and copy and paste functions loser or should aka call you CopyPasta?

      • regressive teaparty trash

        ^^^^^ STEVE BARLOW/ OY HUMID ^^ troll profile^^
        ———————————————————————–

      • regressive teaparty trash

        awwww,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,U got banished and cannot reply?
        ======================================
        now U are ” Canadian horse” troll proile?
        ***********************************************************

      • steve barlow

        Hi my name is Ronnie and I stuff Twinkies down my throat all day. Oh and I love White Castle. Eat it twice a day. Hence my fatness.

      • regressive teaparty trash

        amazing how YOU know all about those ” foods” eh?
        ========================================
        that’s what low IQ white trash inbred regressive such as you consume to keep your poor “physique” in such napiform shape

      • steve barlow

        Right on Eddy. He is a fookin loser. Kinda like The Dark Avenger

      • Edwin

        There is something seriously mentally wrong with a guy who posts a pic of “his girlfriend” as his avatar.

      • Guest

        There is something even more wrong with someone stupid to believe that is really his girlfriend.

      • youcantgetridofmethateasy

        Have you asked Mr. Trash about that avatar? He swears that is the love of his life and the mother of his children. That’s some rich fantasy life Trash has.

      • regressive teaparty trash

        she is not the mother of my daughter—
        why don’t U ask her? I gave U littledicked losers her FACEBOOK name–
        awwww,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,dem’ widdle facts—

      • youcantgetridofmethateasy

        What’s with the sever condescending attitude? You suffer a Napoleon Complex? What is it with you and your disjointed posting style? You’re like static and white noise. Simply annoying with no value added.

      • regressive teaparty trash

        excellent spin AWAY from facts!!
        ====================================
        sounds like U don’t like to find out when U ( frequently) err,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
        again: why don’t U ask her?
        (PS- it is spelled ” severe” ; not sever)
        your brilliance remains !!

      • youcantgetridofmethateasy

        Spin away from facts? Since when was that part of your bullet-pointed Code of conduct?
        And what’s with the excessive use of punctuations? It subtracts from what little you have to offer. Are you now or have you ever been?
        So you want to go back to the 40k jobs that will be made (and not saved) by the passage of the XL Pipeline authorization?

      • Canadian Horse

        Does she have pictures of her fat rolls up close and personal?

      • regressive teaparty trash

        ^^^ new TROLL PROFILE^^^^
        ….FORMERLY known as STEVE BARLOW and OY HUMID; troll has NEW TROLL PROFILE^^
        =======================================
        he will be only on a few days ,,lets give him a big hand

      • regressive teaparty trash

        go to her facebook page and ask her
        ==================================
        Im loving how U have 3 profiles!!
        ( a) GUEST
        (b) edin
        (c) youcantgetridofmethat easy
        =======================================
        and,,,,,,,,all 3 jealous of men who actually can-and DO– get high quality seriously appealing women
        ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,please continue ‘ governor

      • steve barlow

        Hey Shim, your girlfriend- a fat, ugly tranny. Wow

      • regressive teaparty trash

        5’8 133 with NATURAL DD booooobies!
        ===================================
        yeah; shes a real porker!
        ******************************************************
        keep crying,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

      • regressive teaparty trash

        I agree——— im totally screwed up placing this photo
        ======================================
        so– here is another one of her
        keep crying about your paucity of female company

      • steve barlow

        Man, she is FAT. holy, did she swallow a cow?

      • Gary Menten

        C’mon Edwin. We’re still waiting for you to reprimand Steve here for his misogyny.

      • steve barlow

        Gary, do you ever leave the Internet stalker boi?

      • Gary Menten

        Unlike you, I don’t have KKK meetings to run off to on Saturdays.

      • regressive teaparty trash

        “mis,,,,,,,,,,,,miss………..miss-oj-ennie”?

      • regressive teaparty trash

        she doesn’t swallow————–
        but,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, she fun in the “hay”– if ya know what I mean!

      • Canadian Horse

        You definitely went to public school. Sentence structure and use of punctuation is less than 2 nd grade.

      • regressive teaparty trash

        ^^^^ new troll profile^^^

      • youcantgetridofmethateasy

        Sounds like a brand name for a dildo?

      • Gary Menten

        And you are what exactly? A rocket scientist?

      • youcantgetridofmethateasy

        So only a PhD can challenge your ideology?
        And why is a Canadian commenting on American issues again? Why the vitriol? Why the hatred? You already have your year-long waits for a Prostrate exam and a Hernia repair. Why you criticizing us when your county is so screwed up?

      • Gary Menten

        In your case, you’d need to start with at least a Kindergarten diploma. As to prostate exams, I had one just a couple of weeks ago. No year-long wait. I’ll let you know if how long I wait if ever I need hernia surgery.

        The only real problem we have with our health care system, is alas, your health care system. We have a shortage of doctors here, especially specialists because the salary caps imposed on them by the system make it very attractive for doctors to go to the US where they earn far more money then they can in Canada. So yes, America has an excellent health-care system, but it’s only affordable to the top 2% of the population. That’s why if you lived here, you could afford that psychiatrist you so badly need.

      • steve barlow

        Constantly full of excuses. Your country is a shit hole. Your health care, an embarrassment. Obozo care is a failure. It’s over libtards. As for Canada. Who gives a Fook, eh

      • Gary Menten

        Pfft. What would you know? You’ve never been here. I exposed that lie before. You know nothing at all about it. Our country is very nice thank-you, only a bit cold in winter. Does it get very cold there in Dogpatch?

      • regressive teaparty trash

        that’s my crybaby OY HUMID and his breand new TROLL profile!!!
        =======================================
        new crybaby troll profile; formerly OY HUMID— but he got thrown off

      • Gary Menten

        “And why is a Canadian
        commenting on American issues again?”

        Why don’t you come chase me out like you “chased” out the Loyalist “rabble?”

        “Why the vitriol? Why the hatred?”

        Clearly you can’t tell the difference between ridicule and hatred; vitriol and mockery. I’ll attribute this to your cognitive dissonance and the failing American public educational system.

      • steve barlow

        Save yourself. Go become a Jehovah’s Witness. You are so soiled it’s disgusting.

      • Gary Menten

        Off topic, ad hominem attacks. You are a tribute to the failures of the American educational system.

      • Gary Menten

        Why don’t you answer the question though? I can hear you clucking all the way from Montreal.

      • steve barlow

        What question queer boy?

      • Gary Menten

        Still clucking, are you?

      • Gary Menten

        You’re still clucking like a chicken, I see, and writing like an angry little adolescent.

      • Gary Menten

        Non-sequitur, childish, amateurish. You are a little boy with issues.

      • regressive teaparty trash

        here is whats supremely better:
        ************************************************************
        he is a grown “man” ( legally….but–)

      • Jon Swartslander

        Canadians, why are they still kissing the queens ass ?

      • steve barlow

        Because Canadians are a bunch of wanna be Americans

      • youcantgetridofmethateasy

        The taste.

      • regressive teaparty trash

        OY HUMID for president!!
        ( voter fraud)

      • steve barlow

        Actually George Zimmerman for President. A real American hero

      • Gary Menten

        You misspelled “zero.”

      • steve barlow

        Can you please just shut up?

      • Gary Menten

        Can you please just jump off a cliff and remove yourself from the gene pool?

      • regressive teaparty trash

        hey zenith–
        it is a photo of a ladyfriend– of LONG acquaintance–!!
        she (also) hates crybaby trash regressive scumbags such as you( and your other 2 profiles here) who don’t even have the mettle to place up a photo!
        ==========================================
        seems ur embarrassment spilleth over?

      • Edwin

        Why does she have a big canker sore on her lower lip? What’s up with that?

        Is that a Christmas gift from you?

      • regressive teaparty trash

        no ‘ canker’……….u must be looking in the reflection of your computer
        need more photos: eh– little Edwin? here—another U can jerk ur weeeeenie 2

      • Edwin

        OMG, that sore is almost two inches long.

        WTF?

        What does she take for that, penicillin? Is that covered under Obamacare?

      • steve barlow

        I would rather jerk off to a 350 lb black woman

      • Gary Menten

        I’m sure it wouldn’t be the first time you did.

      • regressive teaparty trash

        ^^^^^ TRUTH^^^^^^ from OY HUMID^^^^^

      • Canadian Horse

        You must be half a retard. Your girl is a fat pig. Nice mullet douche bag

      • regressive teaparty trash

        ^^^ new troll profile^^^ troll profile^^
        ================================
        was: OY HUMID ( banished)
        was: STEVE BARLOW ( banished)

        now hes BAAAAACK!!!!
        ( soon to be banished again)

        NEW CRYBABY TROLL PROFILE!!
        ( two days>?????)

      • steve barlow

        This is not EBONICS jerkoff. English please

      • Gary Menten

        English is a foreign language to you. Let us know when you’ve mastered it.

      • Gary Menten

        Nope…Edwin is not a misogynist. Not at all. He totally respects women, doesn’t he? ;o)

      • youcantgetridofmethateasy

        Deviant photographer of underage girls? Is that a well paying job in Montreal?

        Is your work on par with Robert Mapplethorpe?

      • Gary Menten

        Once again, another statement made without evidence. Well, what is asserted without evidence is dismissed without evidence. Come back when you have something grown up to say.

      • youcantgetridofmethateasy

        Again, Kiddie-Porn purveyor, just what’s the Canadian Tax Bracket for a Misogynist exploiter of women? You do boys too, not just girls right?

      • Gary Menten

        Troll post. Come back when you’ve something grown up to say.

      • Canadian Horse

        Denial is admitting you Canadian loser. Pedophile, huh

      • Gary Menten

        Who’s being misogynistic now, you worthless sack of baloney?

      • Edwin

        Regressive is the biggest misogynist on the Internet, including Canada.

        I’m talking about a canker sore on a picture he found surfing porn sites. That’s not misogyny.

      • Gary Menten

        And you are a worthless, baloney-peddling hypocrite.

      • steve barlow

        And you are a pedophile, fudge packer.

      • Gary Menten

        Your evidence please? Ah yes, or course, you have no evidence to back up this absurd prevarication any more than you do anything else you write.

        Well Sparky…what is asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence. You are dismissed.

      • Gary Menten

        Dismissed

      • regressive teaparty trash

        hey loser– did U get kicked off already???

      • Canadian Horse

        Hey- how’s your fatso girlfriend doing?

      • regressive teaparty trash

        awww,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, STEVE BARLOW ? OY HUMID got thrown off AGAIN??

        you faw down an’ go BOOM a lot,,, donnnncha widdle TROLL puddycat?

      • Rob Bailey

        Regressive teaparty trash let me know his fatso girlfriend was getting your dad another transsexual hook-up. Your mom is filming it. Here’s the link:

      • Edwin

        You keep following me.

        And dude, you have more chins than a Chinese phone book. More folds than regressive tea party trash’s “girlfriend’s” midsection.

        Does everybody up there look and act like Rob Ford?

      • Gary Menten

        Come back when you have something grown up to say.

      • Edwin

        Do they have Jenny Craig up there?

        Or how about just putting the fork down.

        Dude.

      • Gary Menten

        Way past your bed time, little boy.

      • Edwin

        Time for you to turn on DeGrassi.

      • Gary Menten

        Time for you to get a life; take a shower; kiss a girl, move out of your parent’s basement.

      • Edwin

        Says the Canadian equivalent of the American pajama boy.

        Speaking of which, can you kindly take back Justin Bieber?

        Maybe Jim Carrey, too.

      • Gary Menten

        Really, Edwin go take that shower. We can smell you all the in Montreal. No wonder the girls don’t like you.

        As to Justin Bieber….we had a national vote on it. He’s yours forever, just like Ted Cruz.

      • youcantgetridofmethateasy

        “We”?? Now you speak for all of Canada? Even the ‘Frenchies’? You sure you’re qualified to even talk on the subject?

      • Gary Menten

        You probably need to take a shower too.

      • youcantgetridofmethateasy

        Hygiene lessons from the great Pin-up Photog Gary Mentoes? I’m so honored Sir.

        BTW, how do you earn a living when you’re constantly posting on ‘Forward Progressives’?

        You on Canadian Welfare?
        I’m sorry, I meant to write ‘programmes sociaux’.

      • Gary Menten

        Troll post. Move on. Nothing to see here.

      • Canadian Horse

        You got owned Canadian Welfare. LOLL. You fookin loser

      • Gary Menten

        Oh, il me ferait grand plaisir de t’introduire en personne a mes amis canadiens-français. Tu pourras leurs expliquer en personne se que tu penses d’eux, mais amene des bandages avec toi. Tu en aura besoin. Reviens quand tu aura de quoi d’intelligent a écrire.

      • youcantgetridofmethateasy

        Et pourquoi devrais-je me soucier à nouveau? Vous pouvez expédier tout le froid et la neige ici vous le souhaitez, et réfuter réchauffement de la planète, mais vous faire encore Beer moche et nous vous envoyé l’emballage après 1812. BTW, ne l’était pas vous Chanuks qui profittered sur notre dix-huitième amendement?
        I think the kids today use the phrase: ‘Suk it.’

      • Gary Menten

        Advice. Don’t use Google translate. It makes more nonsense then you do.

      • Gary Menten

        Time for you to turn on “The Beverly Hillbillies.” Hey! Didn’t you play Jethro? Or was it Granny Clampett?

      • regressive teaparty trash

        he was ( in drag) cousin Bessie on ” Beverly hillbillies”

      • Gary Menten

        If you don’t like the people here, you are welcome to to leave. Not just cyberspace, but the entire gene pool.

      • Edwin

        Tu quoque!!!!

      • Gary Menten

        Troll post. Come back when you have something grown up to say.

      • Edwin

        Gary Folds Five.

      • Gary Menten

        See above.

      • Edwin

        The five folds of Gary Menten’s chin.

      • Gary Menten

        Yawn.

      • regressive teaparty trash

        we all have multiple ‘folds’ as we form them whilst laughing at your incredible ” brilliance”

      • steve barlow

        Wow. Fatso needs to go on Jenny Craig

      • Gary Menten

        Wow…Steve needs to go to summer school….again.

      • Gary Menten

        Misogynistic jerk. Better watch out…Edwin might reprimand you for that remark. Right Edwin? (Total sarcasm)

      • Paul Duca

        Is she only hanging around waiting for your payday?

      • regressive teaparty trash

        we BOTH make easily over 80K per year– mine last yr- after taxes– 106K
        =========================================
        read them and weep — and why do U go after me? Im a liberal centrist progressive
        ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
        are U a crybaby regressive republican?

      • Maureen

        That’s cute but if you want to use grammar and spelling mistakes to imply – well – to insinuate that it has something to do with being a liberal then you should do it somrwhere else where prople know about education in this country and could tell you where their state is usually pretty accurately on the educational rankings by stats. Same states yest after yesr clustered at the top and tbe ssne bunched at the bottom. Pretty much the same and nothing changes because its ok with people ause expect you must know how startling it is when you see the difference in scores between the top states and the rest / particularly rest and those that pathetically at the boty year after year. It’s unbelievable brcd

      • steve barlow

        At least he isn’t a tranny like you. Fook off

      • youcantgetridofmethateasy

        Wait, you’re saying that Mr. Trash is actually a she/him? A SHIM?

      • regressive teaparty trash

        yep– again: love how all the small dicked loser trolls cannot spot a real woman!
        =======================================
        luckily; there is very inexpensive internet porn for ” winners” such as thee! the ladies; it seems– rightfully avoid your aesthetically poor self

      • steve barlow

        Nice picture. Who is the fatty?

      • youcantgetridofmethateasy

        You really do have quite a way with words there Trash. You are without a doubt, the put-down King here on ‘Forward Progressives’. Your capacity for witty retorts is only surpassed by your skills at lexicon-manipulation. So why do you exist again?

      • greenlee24

        Your name is grammatically incorrect, it should be youcantgetridofmethatEASILY, or dumbshit works as well.

      • youcantgetridofmethateasy

        Was that the best you could come up with? Are you even trying?
        Please let me turn the other cheek and permit you to take your best shot.

      • regressive teaparty trash

        he used to be known as ITISMYBALL & ITISOBAMASFAULT
        =========================================
        troll feeding? see? even as U are correct they spew their oligophreniality

      • regressive teaparty trash

        to enjoy myself; of COURSE!
        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

      • regressive teaparty trash

        OY HUMID / IVAN the RENKO is at it again!!

      • steve barlow

        I hope that isn’t your girlfriend. She has a double chin. Looks like she has been ridden hard and put out wet

      • regressive teaparty trash

        “wet”???
        DAMMMMMNNNN straight!!!!
        wet and buxom!!

      • Maureen

        That comment really suggests a fine mind

      • Wayseer

        The Koch Troll Tools are out in force fresh out of the “Howie Rich” Tea Party Activist and Guerrilla Internet Tactics school in Nashville, Tn.. It’s the “American Liberty Tour” to “Influence the hearts and minds of your fellow citizens.” Anybody want to join them. They will pay you to liberate your friends and neighbors of their Country’s Natural Resources. I don’t know how much a Soul goes but it’s has to be a lot less than the Hearts and Minds! And in any case it’s not much. It only cost the price of a XL Pipeline, Democrat or Republican they here to convince you.
        The Tea Baggers just turn the emotion dial to 12 and then do the personal attack. The “Koch Red Reps” are on the payroll they are the Pro’s I can’t wait to see what’s in their bag of tricks?

      • regressive teaparty trash

        read ‘Americas conservative road to destruction” posted aug 10 2014 on THE BLUE ROUTE by Bruce Bacon,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, it chronicles the last 60 yrs and how this madness started and how it is slowly infecting America,,,,, It is a MUST read for all americans

      • Edwin

        Saying a woman should stick to running marathons instead of running her mouth is a blatantly misogynistic statement, no question about it. And it’s merely one of many made here every day by so-called progressives.

      • Hagbard Celine

        Sorry but you are completely wrong on this one.

      • Edwin

        I’m not. It’s a condescending and demeaning remark meant to stifle women’s voices and you as a man wishing to put them in their place. Highly misogynistic. And it’s very common on this particular blog.

      • Hagbard Celine

        Calling out one woman for telling lies does not equal misogyny.

      • Edwin

        Of course, that’s not at all the case I made or why I said his was a misogynistic comment.

      • Hagbard Celine

        It most certainly was since that was the gist of the original comment to stop “running your mouth and stick to running marathons”. BTW running marathons isn’t a female stereotype.

      • Edwin

        When told to stick to running marathons instead of her mouth, yes, it is indeed a stereotype.

      • Wayseer

        PAID TROLL

      • Pipercat

        Audition I’d wager. By the looks of things, getting a job doing seasonal help would be a better endeavor!

      • Edwin

        I wish. Where can I apply?

        Srriously, Wayseer, don’t blame me for your butt-hurt.

      • Hagbard Celine

        Wow, there is another word you don’t know the meaning of.

      • Gary Menten

        Because only women run marathons? Would you like a bit of mustard to go with your giant baloney sandwich?

      • Gary Menten

        You have yet to provide a single valid reason calling her a liar is misogynistic.

      • DavidD

        You are playing the victim here right out of your paid troll handbook.No one made a mention of her gender until you did.
        Your act is getting a bit thin.

      • Edwin

        I’m not playing a victim, I’m calling this place out for its recurring condescension toward women, something that is encouraged and rewarded with upvotes from folks who should know better, given that they pretend to.

      • regressive teaparty trash

        hey troll,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
        U seem 2 be getting a weeee bit of a beating here; eh?

      • Gary Menten

        I think he likes it.

      • steve barlow

        You like dudes giving it to you in the ass

      • Gary Menten

        What hole did you crawl out of?

      • steve barlow

        Bring it queer boy. You libtards are all the same. Giant vaginas

      • Gary Menten

        You and your Neo-Confederate pal the only one here obsessed with anal sex and gay boys here dude. What are you hiding?

      • steve barlow

        Hey fook face. What’s the deal, eh? French Canadians are like towel heads. Get rid of them all. Obnoxious douche bags

      • Gary Menten

        That might offend me if I were French Canadian, but I’m not. My French-Canadian friends would happily take the issue up with you for making the comment though, so come on up, and I’ll be happy to introduce you to them. Bring Band-Aids. Lots of Band of Band Aids. You’ll need them.

      • regressive teaparty trash

        jethroe bodine has a sixth grade edgie-cashun!!

      • Gary Menten

        Yep…and he was top of his class…by a good 6 inches!

      • Paul Duca

        Which means he’s too intelligent to be a good Tea Party member….

      • regressive teaparty trash

        “incredible comeback…one for the ages”
        —–down goes frazier!!—–

      • youcantgetridofmethateasy

        It seems that Mr. Brains/Barlow has your number up there in Montreal. BTW, how much money Canadian can you make in taking dirty pictures, if you’re on here proving just how inferior you are all the time? What was that? You can’t have a medium cooked hamburger? Wow, that’s tough. BTW Aids was brought to the continent by a ghey Air Canada Steward. At least you got that going for you.

      • Gary Menten

        Mr Barlow couldn’t find Montreal on a map most likely, and like you, has most likely never slept with a woman, at least one that wasn’t inflatable.

        How much money I charge for a session is none of your business, unless of course you want photos of yourself, but as I don’t shoot male nudes I’d have to refer you to someone who does. Maybe you can get some to give to your man-crush, Steve. Assuming of course he’s not going out with Edwin.

      • steve barlow

        I knew you were a fookin queer. You take pictures of little boys you perverted fook?

      • Gary Menten

        Wow! you must be really constipated from having your head so far up your backside. Tell me…does it hurt much when you drag your knuckles?

      • regressive teaparty trash

        (the former) OY HUMID has spoken!!
        =======================================
        his bible is torn again

      • regressive teaparty trash

        “MAP”???
        ( senor troll steve barlow asks)
        ” whats a MAP”???

      • Gary Menten

        Map? We ain’t got no maps. I don’t gotta show you no stinkin’ maps!

      • Gary Menten

        C’mon…I was hoping you were going to comment on his virginity.

      • youcantgetridofmethateasy

        Would that information orgasmicly excite you?

      • Gary Menten

        Yeah, you’re a virgin alright.

      • regressive teaparty trash

        your atrophying is accelerating–
        ( keep up the ” great” work)

      • youcantgetridofmethateasy

        The proper word would be ‘atrophia’; so no gold star for you.

      • Gary Menten

        You wouldn’t be able to find you ass with both hands.

      • regressive teaparty trash

        amazing how U white trash regressive seem to transpose YOUR OWN desires so readily upon these threads!!
        ====================================
        jeeeesus can save U

      • Paul Duca

        The price is too high to be saved….

      • regressive teaparty trash

        as she is 5’8 136 and a natural 36 DD top,,,,,,,,,,,,
        WHO WOULDNT!!

        * and,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, no tattoos!!

      • Gary Menten

        Send her over….I need models.

      • youcantgetridofmethateasy

        You like little girls? You park your car outside an Elementary School and secretly photograph little girls at play? Do you share them with your friends on the ‘Dark Net’ using your TOR browser? What are you Gary? 68yrs old by that photograph on your website. You like to touch yourself a lot? So besides your ‘free’ website, where else has your work appeared?

      • Gary Menten

        The women I play with are all in their forties or early fifties. The women I photograph are in their twenties to their forties. The women you play with are all in magazines.

      • steve barlow

        Gary- your a pedophile. You photograph little kids.

      • Gary Menten

        Your evidence please?

      • steve barlow

        He doesn’t have any little boys for you to fondle

      • Gary Menten

        Come back when you’ve kissed a girl, Sparky. (other than your mom)

      • Paul Duca

        Infantile, isn’t he?

      • Gary Menten

        Not to mention a complete hypocrite.

      • steve barlow

        Your girlfriend is FOOKIN ugly

      • youcantgetridofmethateasy

        And Edwin has the testicular fortitude to speak his mind in the face of your withering fire.
        BTW, what makes you right all the time again?
        +1 for Edwin

      • steve barlow

        I love Edwin. + 2

      • youcantgetridofmethateasy

        When you say it, it sounds sick. Why is that?
        But seriously, what’s your beef with that deviant Mr. Trash?

      • Gary Menten

        Ooh, I sense jealousy here.

      • steve barlow

        These libtards are a bunch of losers. Thank God for Ted Nugent.

      • regressive teaparty trash

        I agree————– we thank “god” for nugent and malkin and coulter and beck and limp-baugh,,,,,,,,,,,,,
        ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,and especially YOU!!

        ( ” down goes frazier” )

      • Paul Duca

        Exceedingly low standards for gratitude, Mr. Trash….

      • karensc

        Yeah. Do you emulate Ted by shitting your pants, too? And having sex with underage girls? Your hero, huh?

      • steve barlow

        I have sex with the finest looking women in the world. Unlike you, who bangs dudes.

      • Paul Duca

        The finest looking women in the world that money can buy….

      • steve barlow

        At least I have money, douche bag

      • Paul Duca

        Is that because he pimps jailbait for Steve?

      • regressive teaparty trash

        “translation”
        Im getting thoroughly under their white trash thin regressive skin— and they hate it!
        ” down goes frazier”

      • youcantgetridofmethateasy

        Joseph William “Smokin Joe” Frazier, I met him in 2005 at Sylvia’s Restaurant in Harlem, a few years before he died in 2011. A really great guy.

      • Gary Menten

        Of course you do. When’s the wedding?

      • regressive teaparty trash

        and WHERE???? TEXAS???

      • Gary Menten

        Well duh, Rick Perry’s ranch!

      • regressive teaparty trash

        I love edwin
        =-===================================
        “down goes frazier”

      • Gary Menten

        If by that you mean his brain is down in his balls, then I’d agree, but then again so do you, so he’s hardly alone.

      • regressive teaparty trash

        Correct!!
        *************************************************************
        libtards 76.5
        Edwin 1.0
        **********************************************************
        ( but the game is still early; GO Edwin GO!!)
        >>>or should I say,,,,, “GOP Edwin”<<<<<<<<

      • youcantgetridofmethateasy

        Is everyone who doesn’t walk lock-step beside & behind you, a member of the Grand Old Party? Would you even know; over the sound of your Jackboots stomping on the Belgium Block?

      • Gary Menten

        That’s “Belgian” block, you blockhead.

      • Gary Menten

        That comment would only be accurate if he put posted his real and full name, his real photo and made no secret of his identity. The same goes for you incidentally. It takes no courage whatsoever to make anonymous posts in cyberspace. I can hear you clucking all the way in Montreal.

      • Edwin

        Hardly, pervert.

      • Gary Menten

        No you are, but you just don’t get it. Just like Evolution….it’s just something that happened to other creatures…not you.

      • youcantgetridofmethateasy

        So Photographer Menten, you see yourself as the superior being? Almost God-like? How does that play up there in Canada? You running for Mayor?

      • Gary Menten

        Your knuckles will hurt a lot less if you stop dragging them

      • regressive teaparty trash

        brilliant reply!!!
        ” down goes frazier”

      • Edwin

        Horrible grammar skills. With all due respect, I pity you, ma’am.

      • Gary Menten

        Baloney and crocodile tears. Go write news for Fox. They’d love to have you there.

      • Edwin

        Why don’t you apply for a job at Media Matters?. All you need is a degree in gender studies from a liberal arts school and a cell phone.

      • steve barlow

        He is unemployed. A loser. Even media matters wouldn’t hire this piece of shit

      • Gary Menten

        Actually dipstick, I run my own business.

      • steve barlow

        No you don’t asshole. You are a dirty Canadian

      • Gary Menten

        Like I said, come back when you’ve graduated from grade school.

      • regressive teaparty trash

        yet another brilliant comeback!!!
        ……………. somehere glenn ( needledick) beck is smiling………….

      • Paul Duca

        Because he has a big chunk of Mr. Trash’s money?

      • Gary Menten

        Being Canadian and running a a business are mutually exclusive? What business school did you attend?

      • Paul Duca

        Is anyone stupid enough to hire Steve?

      • steve barlow

        I work for dildosrus

      • Paul Duca

        Conservatives may be correct…there IS a perfect job for anyone.

      • Gary Menten

        If I want to take a job that doesn’t require much in qualifications, I’ll apply at Fox News, thank-you. In the meantime, I can’t help but noticed that you have yet to answer my challenge about substantiating your claim.

      • regressive teaparty trash

        “sub,,,,,,,,,substa……..substansheeee—-”
        ”wha-a-a?”

      • youcantgetridofmethateasy

        And where to you write Gary? The CPUSA’s FORWARD?

      • Gary Menten

        I write here, like you do. The difference is that what I write makes sense.

      • Gary Menten

        We have no recurring condescension towards women. We have a recurring contempt for right-wing trolls.

      • youcantgetridofmethateasy

        Gary, you mean American Right-wing Trolls. Get your verbiage right, you exploiter of women. Objectify much?

      • Gary Menten

        No, I mean Right Wing Trolls….period. It goes without saying that most of you posting on this blog are American so it doesn’t require further qualification.

        As to exploiting women….it’s unlikely that someone (you) who’s never been kissed by a woman knows anything about them or is qualified to speak about exploitation.

      • regressive teaparty trash

        and,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
        ” down goes frazier”

      • Gary Menten

        Oh, he’ll be back with more off-topic personal attacks after he’s finished wiping windshields and pumping gas at Podunk’s only gas station.

      • regressive teaparty trash

        and,,,,,,,we will be here to ” entertain” and edify

      • Paul Duca

        Takes their mind off not having job…

      • steve barlow

        Welcome to the Republican Party. Oh, I forgot you don’t work, have a volunteer position. No income and free healthcare where you can’t see a doctor for months. You remind me of Larry. A fooked up loser

      • Gary Menten

        I rest my case about your failed educational system. You’re kind of late getting here. Did your KKK meeting run late?

      • regressive teaparty trash

        we love how you and “EDWIN” respond FOR each other———— thus proving that you ( and ‘edwin’) are indeed the same micropenile troll using the same computer
        =========================================
        and,,,,,,,,,why would we want to ‘getridofyouthateasy’? we are graced by your attendance here; and our constantly abuuuuusing you( two) is proof of our enjoyment thereof !
        PRAISE JEEEEESUS!

      • Gary Menten

        I doubt they are the same guy. I do think that “easy” has a giant man-crush on Edwin however, while Edwin has a giant crush on Anna Kooiman.

      • regressive teaparty trash

        edwin is the former troll OY HUMID————writing styles exact

      • Gary Menten

        But his writing style is different than “easy’s” I think, though both tend to use evasion when challenged. Easy is consistently off-topic, shows a strong predisposition to making unfounded ad hominem attacks, especially of a sexual and/or homophobic and xenophobic nature. He keeps his profile concealed, though he follows others such as yours and mine. I’d say he’s a frustrated and angry little white boy with a deficient education and no experience with women.

      • steve barlow

        And you are half Jew/ half Black. Oh and live in a shit hole

      • Gary Menten

        Wrong again you vile little KKK racist. Ancestry 100% Flemish Belgian. But I’d choose to be either a Jew or an African-American or both if guaranteed I wouldn’t grow up to be a vile little bigot such as yourself.

        Awaiting another childishly awkward retort from you in three, two, one….

      • steve barlow

        No your not. You are a closet sand chigger

      • Gary Menten

        Belgium. Just another foreign country that you’ve never visited, know nothing about, couldn’t point to on a map, or couldn’t possibly function in. Wonderful cuisine, lot’s of medieval architecture, way too rainy.

        Come back when you have something intelligent to say.

      • regressive teaparty trash

        ^^^^^ OY HUMID ^^^^^ REPLIES^^^^ AGAIN!^^^

      • steve barlow

        OY it’s so fookin HUMID. FOOK YOU

      • regressive teaparty trash

        ^^^^^^^ OY HUMID^^^^^^ new TROLL^^^ profile
        =========================================
        formerly OY HUMID,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,OY HUMID troll NEW profile

      • steve barlow

        Wow a new picture. Looks like she had Wendy’s this AM. She is FAT

      • regressive teaparty trash

        she is 5’8 133
        taller than I must kill you–
        5’8 133,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, a NATURAL “DD” cup breast–
        sorry to annoy U with facts—-
        5’8 133,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, a real tubster!!!

      • Paul Duca

        Only when Jeeeeesus actually DOES anything for me….

      • Gary Menten

        He’s obviously in love with her.

      • Pipercat

        He’d make a good little subbie, too!

      • Gary Menten

        Having the shit whipped out of him would do him some good. But I doubt there’d be anything left afterwards.

      • steve barlow

        I’d whip your ass, you little libtard fudge packer

      • Gary Menten

        I doubt you could whip cream, much less any of us, you repulsive little bigot.

      • steve barlow

        Bring it big boy.

      • Gary Menten

        Come and get it, No-brains.

      • youcantgetridofmethateasy

        Is that a Canadian response? “repulsive little bigot”?

      • Gary Menten

        It’s a sensible person’s response. That makes it valid all over the world.

      • youcantgetridofmethateasy

        Easy there Stevie. He’d probably like that just a little too much.

      • Gary Menten

        Pfft. The two of you combined couldn’t whip a stick of butter.

      • regressive teaparty trash

        im betting they can only afford margarine

      • Gary Menten

        I have doubts about their ability to whip that either.

      • regressive teaparty trash

        I would also—
        physically crippling you— and he– remain quite nikhedonial in my eyes

      • youcantgetridofmethateasy

        Well, if you’re orgasmic apex is fast approaching, please mind your dribbles and use a tissue please. You don’t want to induce a slipping hazard.

      • Gary Menten

        Come on over to Montreal then. My address is all over the internet. I’m impossible not to find. Come on over and do your worst. I’m waiting, tough guy.

      • regressive teaparty trash

        please extricate steves needed funding 4 such a journey—
        he is quite exiguous in his lifestyle; broght on by ergasiophobia I suspect-

      • Gary Menten

        C’mon….now. He’ll never understand big words like ergasiophobia ;o), or “extricate.”

      • youcantgetridofmethateasy

        Gary, you take pictures of half naked women. So you’re objectifying them, correct? And aren’t you Ghey?
        And what’s with the Cannon fetish? You like ‘Big Guns’?

      • Gary Menten

        1. Oh, fully nude also, don’t you worry about it. And it’s not like they’re not willing subjects. In fact, they pay me to objectify them.

        And no, I’m not gay. I not only photograph nude women, I have sex with them, which is something I’m sure you’ve never done or have any clue how to do. No woman in her right mind would go anywhere near a repulsive little puke such as yourself.

        2. Ex troop sergeant-major, Royal Canadian Artillery. Current member and official photographer for a volunteer organization dedicated to honoring Canadian service veterans and maintaining artillery tradition. We own and maintain and shoot two WWII vintage 25pdr guns.

      • steve barlow

        Whatever. You are a queer and are unemployed. You just admitted both up above douche bag. I am sure you are happy you have that shitty Canadian socialist health insurance. You enjoy sucking on the tit, don’t you? Your country is a shit hole.

      • Gary Menten

        I said nothing of the sort and I am more than certain that I make more money than you do.

        Come back when you’ve graduated

      • steve barlow

        You make no money. You are unemployed. You admitted it up above jack ass

      • Gary Menten

        I never said anything of the sort. It’s too bad you don’t have our socialist health care system; then you could afford that psychiatrist and the meds you so desperately need.

      • youcantgetridofmethateasy

        A study by researchers at the University of Toronto shows that high-income Canadians are 30 per cent more likely to see a medical specialist than low-income people.

        The study is based on a national health survey by Statistics Canada in 1994 that included more than 17,000 people.

        Dr. Peter Coyte is a health economist at the U of T and one of the study’s co-authors. He says the results are not surprising.

        “I think most Canadians know it happens,” said Coyte. “It’s useful to be able to quantify the extent to which people in different income classes have better access to different kinds of services.”

        In 1990, an Ontario study pegged the percentage at 40 per cent in Saskatchewan. In the 1960s, it was at 60 per cent.

      • Gary Menten

        Really, it’s too bad you can’t afford a psychiatrist or decent meds. You obviously need both.

      • steve barlow

        Gary is an unemployed loser. He is not able to see a doctor for months at a time. He is a loser

      • youcantgetridofmethateasy

        What’s your tax rate there Gary? And what else do you pay VAT on?

      • Gary Menten

        I’m quite certain that both my income and my tax rate are higher than yours. We’re also projecting a budget surplus this year in Canada. When was the last time that happened in the US? Oh yes.. during the Clinton Administration.

      • steve barlow

        Your country is a shit hole. You earn no income and are a ledophile. Wow, you dirty queer

      • Gary Menten

        Again, what is asserted without evidence….

      • Gary Menten

        Actually, the Canadian “socialist” health insurance system works quite well; better than any private or government system in the US, but we’ve been working at it since the 1960’s, or about 40 years before you were born. (take your pick). For instance, I just saw my doctor a week and a half ago and it cost me nothing other than what I regularly pay into the system. I take prescription medication for blood pressure and my insurance drug insurance plan, which is a private one, pays for 80% of the cost of the meds. When I had to have surgery to correct a deviated septum, it was fully covered by the government plan. My mother had cancer surgery some years ago and again, it was fully covered. She needed hip surgery a few years later and again….fully covered.

        So, our shitty system works pretty well. I know this doesn’t mean anything to you because you haven’t reached your 13th birthday yet and you think you’re going to live forever, but there will be a time when you need medical help with something and can’t afford it, but that isn’t my problem. The faster you and your inbred friends are deleted from the gene pool, the better.

      • steve barlow

        Gary is a moron. He couldn’t figure out a 3rd grade math equation

      • Gary Menten

        Oh Steve….you can comment on 3rd grade math questions when you graduate from 3rd grade.

      • steve barlow

        FU. Who made you the authority

      • regressive teaparty trash

        BRILLIANCE yet again!!!!
        ” down goes frazier”

      • youcantgetridofmethateasy

        Not to me, and I’m here on my own dime.

      • Gary Menten

        So the fact she has breasts gives her the right to promote absurdity on TV without rebuke?

      • youcantgetridofmethateasy

        Well, all men, even ghey ones objectify women. We’ve done so since Adam handed Eve the apple (or in your case, when your ancestors crawled out of the primordial ooze. When was that again? 1760?

      • Gary Menten

        My ancestors climbed out of the same primordial ooze as yours did 3.8 billion years ago. The difference seems to be that mine evolved somewhat more than yours.

      • Gary Menten

        I photograph women. I also sleep with them. (not the same ones, mind you.) I’m quite certain you don’t do either.

      • steve barlow

        You sleep with men and photograph little boys, eh.

      • Gary Menten

        Come back when you graduate, knuckle dragger.

      • Gary Menten

        Nooooo….I sleep with women. I get it that it’s something you’ve never done. We all get it incidentally. No use trying to conceal the fact. No use trying to conceal that you’re a sexually frustrated virgin who spends entirely too much being an internet troll and very little time on grooming or personal hygiene. You will get a LOT more women…at east have a chance to get women if you spend less time on the former and more on the latter. You will also have to graduate from Kindergarten and get a job though.

      • steve barlow

        What’s life like taking a penis in your ass after shooting homeless men naked in that shit hole Montreal?

      • Gary Menten

        I don’t know, but it can’t be nearly so painful as having a hot spike driven through your brain as you obviously have. Oh, and we Montrealers like our shit hole very much thank-you. We have some of the best bagel joints and best Chinese Restaurants in North America, excepting of course New York, which is another place I’m sure you’ve never visited.

      • youcantgetridofmethateasy

        So if life is so grand in the Canuck Great White North, why are you bad mouthing the US of A? You can’t find a Canadian version of ‘Forward Progressives’ up there? We chased your ‘Loyalist’ rabble out of this country. Who’s face is on your coinage again?

      • Gary Menten

        I’m not bad mouthing the USA, I’m badmouthing idiots like you. I like the USA. It’s morons like you, that are sadly ruining it.

        As to chasing Loyalists out of the US…you should read your history a bit. Americans invaded Canada both during the Revolutionary War and the War of 1812. The funny thing is, you didn’t do too well on either occasion.

      • Gary Menten

        Feeling a touch xenophobic are we? You understand that cyberspace has no boundaries right? You don’t need a passport to get in. I can see how this would cause distress to a tiny, vile little bigot such as yourself.

      • Gary Menten

        I dunno. Let us know when you’ve tried it. Graduate from Kindergarten first though.

      • youcantgetridofmethateasy

        Is he? Are you making judgment from aloft? Just how many entities do you speak for?

      • Gary Menten

        What’s that sound I hear? Oh yes, the pot calling the kettle “black.”

      • Hagbard Celine

        I own and use a dictionary that is how I know the person is wrong.

      • youcantgetridofmethateasy

        So the ‘We’ of which you speak, consists of you and your dictionary?

      • Hagbard Celine

        Are you hallucinating?

      • youcantgetridofmethateasy

        You’re the one claiming to be the leader of Condemnation. I was just asking how many of you there are, or are you the only one so opinioned?

      • Hagbard Celine

        Seek professional help,your comments reek of a delusional thought process. Plus you are apparently hallucinating words in my comments.

      • youcantgetridofmethateasy

        Must I? At your insistence? Who are you again to pass judgment upon me? Open forums, especially here, invite retorts. If you can’t handle the truth, don’t participate.
        And the phrase that pays; is ‘Inference’.

      • Gary Menten

        I wouldn’t waste your time with “Easy.” He is an obnoxious adolescent troll. Nothing more, nothing less. Un enfant mal-élevé, as the French would say.

      • Hagbard Celine

        I was bored and it amused me for about 2 minutes.

      • youcantgetridofmethateasy

        No he isn’t. Such a statement is indicative of just such an affliction. You see women as less than equal to yourself. Or is it just ‘conservative’ women?

      • Gary Menten

        Ridiculous. We would say exactly the same thing if she were a man. Are you in love with her or something? It sure sounds like it.

      • youcantgetridofmethateasy

        So counter Edwin with an equally venomous rant against the liar Nancy Pelosi.

      • Hagbard Celine

        No thanks, I tend to stay on topic and not ramble about spouting nonsense like some folks around here.

      • youcantgetridofmethateasy

        Stay on topic? Here? So you have ‘Topic Integrity’? This place is reminiscent of the Movie ‘King of Hearts’.

      • Gary Menten

        If this place goes off-topic, you would be one of the biggest reasons for it.

      • regressive teaparty trash

        actually,,,,socially / economically and physically I suspect he ( and steve and IVAN RENKO et al) would be considered the ‘ smallest”

      • Gary Menten

        I’m actually beginning to suspect he/it/ they is a girl, albeit a very unpopular one.

      • The Dark Avenger

        At least not a loser Canadian

      • Gary Menten

        Troll garbage. Come back when when you have something grown up to say.

      • Gary Menten

        The Dark Avenger is formerly Steve Barlow. I guess Steve must have been kicked off. Notice also from reply below, she is not denying being a girl.

      • regressive teaparty trash

        see? U make friends sooooo easily! that’s why we love your micropenile loser regressive self!
        =======================================
        read ” Americas conservative road to destruction” on THE BLUE ROUTE — posted aug 10 2014 by Bruce Bacon,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
        I already know that you will not—
        …… 60 yrs of chronicled truth might scare ya’!

      • youcantgetridofmethateasy

        What’s with the fascination for my phallus?

        Read the NAMBLA handbook where it describes itself as a “support group for intergenerational relationships,” and uses the slogan “sexual freedom for all.” According to the group’s web site, its aim is to “support the rights of youth as well as adults to choose the partners with whom they wish to share and enjoy their bodies.”
        ————————————————————————————–
        Come on Miss Trash, what’s with the Phallus envy?

      • regressive teaparty trash

        duuuude,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
        U just fessed up————- on an internet blog–
        that you read that>????
        ======================================
        priceless!

      • The Dark Avenger

        Nice picture you fat ugly fook

      • regressive teaparty trash

        6’2″ 209 lbs,,,,,11% body fat
        =====================================
        thank UUUU 4 the hair compliment!!! women seem to LUVVVVV it–
        “men” such as UU hate it as U are going bald…
        all that embarrassment!!

      • Maureen

        Honestly. The only thing that gives me hope is that I have many millennialls in my life and they are so blessedly mature in contrast.

      • regressive teaparty trash

        ^^^^ hey lookie above^^^^,,,,,,,,,another loser troll with a brand new profile!!!
        regressive white trash troll————- lets give him a warm welcome!
        MISOGYNY? I think the religious white trash regressives not allowing WOMEN to make EQUAL pay or make the decision about their OWN BODY might qualify more—-as ” misogyny”

      • Edwin

        And so what does that have to do with Anna Kooiman?

      • regressive teaparty trash

        welcome to this thread; senor troll!

      • steve barlow

        You white trash tranny. Fuck off

      • Gary Menten

        Still dragging your knuckles, I see. Let us know when you graduate from grade school.

      • steve barlow

        Do they have school in that shit hole Canada?

      • Gary Menten

        No, we live in igloos and hunt polar bear all year ’round. We don’t have time for school because we’re too busy shoveling the snow off our igloos.

      • regressive teaparty trash

        ^^^ see- above^^^? the new TROLL did have his mumsie show him how to spell dirty words!
        PRAISE JEEEEEESUS!!

      • Gary Menten

        Olé!

      • Bill Donaldson

        What does anything you say have to do with Keystone? Let’s discuss that lie shall we?

      • Edwin

        She could’ve stated it better, substituting ‘supporting’ for ‘creating’, but it’s not something you guys should be getting all misogynistic and ugly toward her about it. It’s inconsequential compared to what Mary Landrieu is doing in Louisiana, yet Allen decides not to mention Landrieu. It’s typical of the strange obsession with Fox News here, and it makes no sense at all for folks still trying to come to grips with what went so wrong all of a sudden with their party.

      • DavidD

        Your use of regressive white trash is offensive.I agree with many of your political comments but I am asking you nicely to drop it.
        Believe me when I tell you alienate a lot of people who would be inclined to support you with such language..
        You are using the language of the big house who would not of hesitated to use the term white trash to you or your family to keep you in your place.

      • regressive teaparty trash

        I have read some of your posts; and combining what you say here with those prior posts I will ATTEMPT to refrain from that ( indeed) one-sided epithet
        =====================================
        please be advised: it is difficult when dealing with the trolls who pollute these blogs

      • DavidD

        It’s very hard sometimes and I just fell off the wagon myself by cussing out an obnoxious Yankee liberal for his arrogant assumptions.
        I try real hard to advance a progressive agenda but I have a hot temper which gets in the way and I have to try to control my short term emotional gratification..

      • steve barlow

        Your girlfriend looks like a dude. Are you trannies?

      • regressive teaparty trash

        hey chowderhead————
        >>>>>>>>>>>>>>. seriously<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
        if U think a 5'8 132 lb woman with a NATURAL 36DD chest is a dude………….
        ………………ya might be a myopic regressive small dicked loser who spanks his monkey NIGHTLY 2 internet porn!!

      • Paul Duca

        Then why is she hanging around you?

      • BoydCrowder22

        I don’t care Eddie….,,,fffff that ignorant fox bbbbbbbbbb…..preaching to her CLUELESS flock of Fox fools….

      • steve barlow

        Fuck off. You must be a sand chigger?

      • Gary Menten

        No-one is bashing her because she’s either a woman or a conservative. She’s being bashed for saying nonsense on TV and passing it off as fact. Try to pay more attention.

      • Dewey

        Apparently you are the one caught up in identity politics. The only thing she is getting bashed for is being a lying sack of shit.

      • Edwin

        “A lying sack of shit”?

        No, you still-butthurt progressives aren’t misogynistic at all.

      • Gary Menten

        We say the same thing about Limbaugh, Beck, Hannity, O’Reilly all the time. Does that make us man-haters?

      • steve barlow

        Fook off

      • Gary Menten

        Come on and make me.

      • youcantgetridofmethateasy

        Bingo. But then, this fish stinks from the head down. Mr. Clifton and his other half are to blame for promoting such activities. I just don’t see the gratification they get from it.

      • Maureen

        That lame bs was over the day it started. Liberals don’t take yo well to having.everyone so why does the entire right wing under thst impression

      • Maureen

        Well I guess the fact that wingers are using the word mysoginism means they aren’t denying it exists.
        But before you start throwing it around in a statement that calls another person a Neanderthal, you should know that a liberal women do not take a pledge to never criticize another woman , mysongomy does not apply. If you would like to see an excellent, impressive level of mysoginism, just go to any wingnut website, find anything that mentions Hillary Clinton and THAT is mysoginism. You’re welcome

      • youcantgetridofmethateasy

        Wow, hate women much? Or is it just conservative women? So Rachel Maddow is your Kewpie Doll?

      • Wayseer

        good for Anna, but why isn’t Halliburton paying for their rehab? Another “Privatize the Profits and Socialize the Losses.” and I am a Vet.

      • Edwin

        Idiotic comment deserves no response.

      • regressive teaparty trash

        we love how U trolls give yourselves upvotes as a “guest”——– as if it matters!
        =======================================
        oh,,,and if someones comment ” deserves no response”,,,,,
        why do tegu shit losers ( see: YOU) respond??

      • Edwin

        I didn’t, but if bothers you so much, and obviously it does, maybe I’ll start.

      • steve barlow

        English. Not EBONICS loser

      • regressive teaparty trash

        awwww……………………… did u faw down again an’ go BOOM?????
        ========================================
        poor widdle puddy cat—

      • ravens fan

        Yet you did.

      • Wayseer

        I’m glad you know an idiotic statement when you see one, take a look at yours again. I am really tired of you reds. Your party just wasted 14 million Dollars on some Benghazi fantasy, another 8 Million on the IRS investigation that went nowhere, then sent $225 Million to Israel because they wanted to kill more Palestinian women and children. A year ago the Republicans shut down the Government that cost the Taxpayers $24 Billion. Then the republicans voted to cut health care and voted down every Veterans Bill that hit the floor. We Vets will remember what republicans did, and don’t ever thank a Veteran for their service to their Country you don’t have a clue. You and Your kind Love Veterans like Michael Vick loves Pit Bulls.
        The Republican party sent us to war on a Lie’s. The lie’s that both Bush’s told (Iraqi’s stealing incubators and WMD’s a family of cold liars) killed almost 10,000 Americans and hundreds of thousands of Middle Easter Men Women and Children. You have to be sooo proud of the only president to be elected to the Presidency with a Criminal Background, (DUI and Cocaine possession.)
        Now republicans are aiming to keep America underfed, underpaid, under-insured, un-educuated, un-informed, unsafe, unable to vote and overly-paranoid about their fellow countrymen. You have produced a mass media outlet that has nothing to do with News just total propaganda. Otherwise those Idiot women you love so much would never be in front of a camera unless they were naked.
        Now Edwin your job is to Turn up the emotion dial to 12 then do the personal attack on something I never even hinted at. Facts scare the hell out of you and Faux News viewers (don’t deny it) didn’t tell you what to say, so your best bet is to act like you never saw this. And that’s what you will do.
        It has to be exhausting for you knowing that the black guy you hate so much is fighting for you harder than the white guys you call congressmen and senators.
        So edwin the next time you even think of “Idiotic comment deserves no response.” just keep thinking and move on. The main lesson STFU boy.

      • Edwin

        Nutcase.

      • Wayseer

        That’s not even as good as “Idiotic Statement.”

        Your a troll and I am calling you out on every statement you make.

      • Edwin

        You’re quite welcome to. You’re going to be here awhile, though.

        Heh.

      • Wayseer

        Troll, Troll, TRoll, TROll, TROLL!!!

      • Edwin

        Zzz. Zzz. Zzz Zzz.

      • steve barlow

        Please oh please. Go fuck yourself you loser. You never served for my Great COUNTRY

      • Wayseer

        You are a burden on your Country, It’s a one sided affair, your Country gives you everything and you give nothing. You only want more men and women to go do some killing. So your masters get even richer and tighten the collar around your neck.
        That was the same Red response when I returned from Viet Nam, it’s called denial. Was that you at the San Francisco Air Port doing the Spitting? I guess you are enjoying doing it again by denying I am a Veteran? Whatever it takes little man.
        One of these days you will open your eyes and realize I am not your enemy. If you want to know who your enemy is just find out who you are not allowed to talk about.

      • steve barlow

        You never served in Vietnam, you can’t even spell it jackass

      • Wayseer

        Dong Tam and Soc Traing, Saigon, Vung Tau, Can Tho are some of the places with 9th Infantry Div.

      • Paul Duca

        And yet no one is serving Steve….

      • Mike Caron

        raising money from your celebrity doing something you do anyway is hardly being a hero and wraping yourself around “military heros” is more fox B S – she is a skank

      • Edwin

        She’s a far better person than you. She didn’t wrap herself around military heroes, she worked with another military person to raise awareness and money for wives and children of fallen military personnel.

        And it’s not BS what she and Fox as an organization do for our military personnel, both serving and retired.

        Your’re just a bitter liberal with a profound and bizarrely obsessive hatred for Fox, and you’d be doing yourself a big favor to get over it.

      • Mike Caron

        or your mom – D bag

      • Edwin

        Another butt-hurt liberal still sore after the Republican tsunami.

        Seriously, move on with your life. Do something positive. Run a marathon and raise money for military families who’ve lost fathers and husbands. Read a good book. Volunteer at a soup kitchen. Something other than your constant bleating. It’s unbecoming.

      • Mike Caron

        another conservative blow hard with no facts spouting off tired old BS – I felt before this last election the same way I feel now – conservative phonies are a blight on our country – always have been always will be – deluded ignorant gullible suckers falling for every trick and phony scandal fox can spew out. take your own deranged self trolling – commenting on everything – you think you know me or anyone cause of a few post – if so you are sicker than even you know – I am done with you – now go feed soup to some pour soul who lost his arms and legs in Iraq on lies told by BUSH, Cheny, Fox – you own it punk

      • Edwin

        Bitter-clingerer, howling at the moon about Fox News, day after day after infernal day, thinking one day his howling will change things.

      • Bill_Clement

        How the hell does Bitter Clinger fit into your comment? It’s some ridiculous teabag/conspiracy/ammosexual bullshit. and it’s, bitter clinger”, not,”bitter clingerer”.

      • Edwin

        One who clings bitterly is a bitter clingerer. When one bitter clingerer progressive is more bitter than the other one, it could be said that he was a bitterer clingerer.

      • steve barlow

        Says who, Billy Boy? Go Fook Yourself idiot. Ted Nugent

      • TripleMoon

        How many marathons did you sign up for after President Obama was elected? How much money have you raised for veterans and their families? How many hours have you volunteered at soup kitchens? Or did you spend your time kvetching about liberals?

      • Edwin

        I run one marathon a year, have been since well before Obama was elected. Wounded Warriors Project is my favorite charity and the one I’ve donated to the most for the past three years. I work a soup kitchen in my area at least once a month and always on Thanksgiving. I spend very little time kvetching about liberals, relatively.

      • Bill_Clement

        I cry, “bullshit!”.

      • Smalldeer

        The Wounded Warrior Project is a scam and is bled dry by a top heavy, greedy executive structure and the remaining funds are disbursed to multi-tier distribution organizations with similar management structures. By the time the money actually goes to direct benefits for veterans, there is probably less than 10% that reaches them.

      • Edwin

        Better tell President Obama. He’s done a lot of good things for them.

      • steve barlow

        Who do you support? Proud Gay Americans? What a joke. Or inner city rebuild? Once a thug always a thug. God Bless George Zimmerman.

      • Paul Duca

        God must be so busy doing that, he has no time to bless Steve Barlow….

      • TripleMoon

        If what you say is true, good for you. However, I would be willing to bet that many people who comment on this site also live full lives, give to causes they value, read, run, whatever. For you to imply they have no life and sit around and kvetch is pretty funny when you are doing the same thing. I doubt you know Anna Kooiman yet you’re so sure she’s a better person than anyone here. Why is that? Why are you spending your free time on a progressive website trolling? I’m sure Anna has a fan site where you could post what a wonderful person she is.

      • steve barlow

        Because you are clueless. That’s why

      • Wayseer

        You have to be very proud of that “raise money for military families who’ve lost fathers and husbands.” Put a Charity together for them but don’t ever think about Halliburton or Koch Brothers helping out. Not even tax deductible dollars. They hate vets would not give them the dirt from the soles of their shoes.

      • Edwin

        Nope, nobody hates vets. I don’t hate you, but you are a nutcase. A very butthurt one. I hope you’re able to overcome it.

      • Smalldeer

        What’s with your fixation on butts?

      • Edwin

        Using the term ‘butthurt’ in no way implies a fixation with butts, however, if someone does have a fixation with them, why would you point it out? Do you think it’s weird? Or do you just hate gays but are too afraid to actually come out and say it on a forwardly progressive blog?

      • Wayseer

        Then why do you encourage people that will not pass one bill that helps vets, and spend billions on foreign countries and wars to create more vets. You don’t like vets around at all. I’ll bet you don’t even know a Vet, not one in your family!

      • Edwin

        Dad was a 1st Lieutenant in WWII in Okinawa. Grandfather in WWI in Meuse Argonne under Pershing. Uncle in VietNam.

        None of those gives me any more or any less of a right to vote wrt to a hawkish candidate or voice my opinions on wars than you have, Wayseer. That’s one of the great things about our country that you fought for, which I appreciate and thank you for.

      • Wayseer

        You are right for once, you don’t have the right, You turned your back on your Father and Grandfather who were patriots. You don’t know the sacrifices men have made and are making.
        You don’t know that no one hates a War like a Warrior, so you continue to vote people in office that will create more Veterans. Then treat them like garbage when they return to beg from some crumbs from some civilian organization. How do you explain to your father that the GI bill that he had when he returned from WWII is just too much for his country to give. Your Grandfather knows what it is like when the “Bonus Army” marched on Washington after WWI. And now you want to do it again. How many times will we learn this lesson, it’s called Fascism and you’re a party leader this time! Your forefathers are ashamed of you and your kind. Don’t even try to stand tall around your kids and wife they know what you are, a coward that’s standing in the blood of real men, and all you can say is “Idiotic comment deserves no response.”

      • Edwin

        Idiotic comment from bigot deserves no response.

      • Wayseer

        Very intelligent retort from a little man. I didn’t expect any defense from you because you know it’s all true. Com-on you can at least turn the emotion dial up to 12 and do the personal attack. “Bigot” is the best you can do? What a wimp. Oh that’s right you didn’t have the backbone for the military so your just a spinless wimp.

      • Edwin

        Zzzzz.

        You’re nothing more than a shiver looking for a spine to run up. Good luck finding one. Won’t be mine.

      • Gary Menten

        I doubt Edwin is old enough to have served. In any case, I’m sure he’d be weeded out in the psychological screening.

      • steve barlow

        I promise you one thing. You are not a vet. Fook off and stop pretending you loser

      • Wayseer

        Then tell me why that remark came to your mind wimp?

      • steve barlow

        Because you aren’t a Vet. We wouldn’t allow morons like you to fight for MY great country.

      • Wayseer

        I already told you, this is not your Country You are not a patriot, You are a descendent of Patriots, but you sir are a Hateriot.
        You have done nothing for this Country. You are a taker and a user. Are you old enough to remember ” ask not what your country can do for you—ask what you can do for your country.”
        Not only My Grandfather, And Father, But My Son and my Grandson are all Patriots. My Grandson in in Kuwait right now waiting to go to Iraq.

      • Gary Menten

        Junior here (Steve) probably isn’t old enough to remember the Clinton Administration. Thank-you for your service.

      • steve barlow

        You are not a a vet. You are a pyscotic jerk off

      • Wayseer

        That’s very honorable, you take a pretty girl wrap her in a flag, with a bible and a cross. Make some remarks that she is reading from a script.
        What does Fox do for our Military Personnel, they hate them. Why are we donating money to a Corp so they can take half and then give some charity to some women that allowed their husbands to help their country. They gave the Corporate America their Husbands and Corporate America gave them a Flag. Not a fair trade. And edwin how was your military service? coward.

      • Edwin

        Psycho.

      • Gary Menten

        How do you know she is a better person than Mike? Have you ever met either one of them?. Here’s a question though….if she’s such a good person, why does pass off lies as facts?

      • Edwin

        It wasn’t a lie. It could’ve been worded better. That may not have been her fault, just hasty editing. The word ‘supported’ would’ve been a better word than ‘created’. Silly to go all misogynistic and call her a bad person who should shut her trap all over that. Look at the yahoos going ballistic over this here, and no one cares a wit that Mary Landrieu is going to actually vote for it. That’s why Dems got annihilated last week. Beating a red-headed stepchild. Because they focused on Fox News, abortion on demand, Rush Limbaugh, et al, and took their eyes off the ball of what’s really in voters minds, what gues in their pocketbooks. You guys will never learn, and you’ll never change.

      • Gary Menten

        Baloney. What is the difference between a gross exaggeration of the number of jobs that will be created and an outright lie? A news organization that distorts the facts, in this case by a factor of at least 10,000 is not worthy of being called a news organization. At best it’s a generator of fairy tales. You should go to work for Fox. You’d fit right in.

      • Edwin

        Did you read the article from the liberal Politifact organization? Mostly false because it won’t create that many jobs, but may support that many jobs. That’s the difference between an outrightue and something that could’ve been worded better.

        Why does her statement bother you far more than Mary Landrieu voting for it? Can you explain that? Kooiman’s slip is inconsequential. Landrieu’s vote is not. Why the liberal freak out here?

      • Gary Menten

        It does not bother me one bit that Mary Landrieu voted for it.

      • Gary Menten

        “Will create tens of thousands of jobs” is a definitive statement that makes a false prediction.

        “May support many jobs” is an iffy, non-committal statement that makes no predictions.

        The difference between the two is as big as the difference between “lightning” and a “lightning bug.”

      • Edwin

        I’m sorry it’s causing you this much distress, Gary.

        Why don’t you write her a letter. Tell her just how much it’s affected you. She strikes me as the kind of person who might care about what you’re going through.

      • Gary Menten

        I’m not distressed at all, but as you obviously have some sort of deep crush on her, it should probably be you who write her a letter.

      • Edwin

        You seem extremely depressed and forlorn.

        Were you like this after the Bush v. Gore SCOTUS decision?

      • Gary Menten

        I live in Canada and couldn’t care less.

      • steve barlow

        Eh, a stupid fookin Canadian. Your country is a shit hole. Eh

      • Gary Menten

        I doubt you could find it on a map. I’m not sure you could find your own.

      • steve barlow

        Montreal and all of Canada is a shit hole, eh

      • Gary Menten

        Like you’ve ever been here.

      • steve barlow

        Been to Qweebeck City, Toronto and Montreal. All 3 cities are run down, old shit holes with annoying people that all say EH

      • Gary Menten

        See, now you’ve exposed yourself as a liar.

        Quebec City speaks only French and no-one says “eh” in French.

        Montreal is 60% French so ditto for them, and no anglophones here say “eh.”

        Toronto…Toronto is Cosmopolitan, southern Ontario city. No-one there speaks that way there either. It’s an expression that’s pretty much limited to parts of Northern Ontario.

        Come back when you graduate, Gomer.

      • youcantgetridofmethateasy

        And you see that as a ‘good’ thing? Your entire country can be summed up in a Second City McKenzie Brothers Comedy Sketch?
        Which are you? Bob or Doug?

      • Gary Menten

        As I said stupid, it’s only in parts of Northern Ontario that anyone speaks like Bob and Doug MacKenzie. Cognitive dissonance?

      • Gary Menten

        Yes, but we have great restaurants.

      • Edwin

        Don’t they have liberal blogs up there for guys like you who need to cry over spilt milk?

      • Gary Menten

        This is cyberspace, stupid. I could be in China and still posting here, as could you. The only one who’s been crying is you, but they’ve been crocodile tears.

      • Paul Duca

        If she wasn’t hot, you wouldn’t give her the time of day, much less think she’s better than you.

      • Edwin

        Neither of those is true.

        Don’t project your ugliness and disgust over your party’s annihilation onto others, Paul. Things don’t just automatically work that way.

      • Pipercat

        Well, I suppose the reference to Ms. Kooiman’s appearance could be considered misogynistic too, yes?

      • Edwin

        Not as presented, no. She’s beautiful inside and out, and in no way did I imply that her looks were her only redeeming feature.

      • Pipercat

        Yet, you referred to Ms. Kooiman as a “girl.” Most adults would be addressed as a Woman or Man. Somewhat condescending when an argument is walking a very fine line.

      • Edwin

        You just moved the goalposts, but I’ll change it as I meant no disrespect to her whatsoever with that reference.

      • Pipercat

        To have moved the goalposts would require there to be goalposts in the first place. Your assertion of misogyny was made against a comment/reply with no adjectives. In essence, a jump to the conclusion of misogyny only because of the words: she and her. Logically, for there to be misogyny, it would have required more than just references in the third person.

      • Edwin

        Now you’re bouncing all over the place.

      • Pipercat

        Quite the contrary, I’m focusing precisely on the two comments in question. Yours and Suburbancuurmudgeon’s. Your comment made the assertion that Ms. Kooiman is a good person. Suburbancuurmudgeon’s reply was cynical, but by no means, misogynistic. You could replace Ms. Kooiman with Brian Kilmead for example, then replace she/her with he/him. By the standard you are setting, the comment then would be misandric. Your assertion is fallacious because it jumps to a conclusion. Again I point out, Suburbancuurmudgeon’s reply contained no adjectives.

      • Edwin

        So tell me, Pipercat, tell me the time and place where it was easy to be a woman.

      • Pipercat

        Irrelevant and a bad attempt at a pivot. This thread has never been about misogyny, misandry or misanthropy. This thread was about credibility. A totally different argument and one you managed to fallaciously jack.

      • Edwin

        That’s my point, Piper. Threads here very often go misogynistic. This one did right off the bat. They don’t have to, but for some reason, Allen’s posts bring out the worst in progressives with regard to demeaning women. Barely a soul here knows who Anna Kooiman is, but as long as she’s a woman and works for Fox, progs here think it’s appropriate to bash her. It’s something they cheer.

        And why her over focusing instead on Mary Landrieu? You know the answer to that but you won’t dare say.

      • Pipercat

        Nice straw man.

      • Edwin

        You want to argue minutiae, fashion yourself as some sort of an expert at logical fallacies, and use this blog to practice what you read on the Wikipedia page covering the subject. It’s quite boring.

      • Pipercat

        No need to use Wikipedia to rub a bulge off a bad argument like yours. Oh, better look up what the word minutiae means.

      • Edwin

        My argument was that suburbancurmudgeon’s comment was misogynistic, and it indeed was. Accept that. Accept that many of your progressive compatriots here are pigs, and that Allen’s blogging attracts more and more of them every day. Do something constructive about it instead of trying to excuse and offering them aid and assistance to carry it on.

        And I used the word minutiae correctly.

      • Pipercat

        My, aren’t you overbearing. Contradiction does not prove one’s point. The problem here, is you never had a point to begin with. Devolving into rants that contain nothing but ad hominems only bolsters the counters of those you are engaging. One big rule, I don’t have to accept anything from anybody nor heed the very bad advice from you.

      • Edwin

        I never claimed you needed to accept anything from me. You chose to argue, I chose to argue back. Simple as that. Go back to your Wikipedia page and bone up on logical fallacies and ad hominem attacks, and maybe we can find some common ground, if I don’t die of boredom first.

      • Pipercat

        Do you have your affairs in order?

      • Edwin

        It’s always amazed me how many liberals think they’re clever quoting from that Wikipedia page on logical fallacies. It gets more page views and quotes from progressives than the one on the Southern Strategy. It’s amazing.

      • Pipercat

        Better get a lawyer quick! That boredom will do you in when you’re not looking!!

      • Gary Menten

        Wikipedia was good enough for Rush Limbaugh, wasn’t it?

      • Wayseer

        Wikipedia is no more a reference than Faux Snooze where you get your info from. Your just a paid Troll prob. a jew sent here to disrupt any cohesion from like minded people. Go back to Israel.

      • Edwin

        Wow.

        Just wow.

      • steve barlow

        Only thing worse is a queer Jew. I am sure your parents Irving and Kifilta are proud of their little queer son

      • Gary Menten

        I doubt he’s paid. More like he’s a moocher living in his parents basement. He fits the profile.

      • steve barlow

        Yes you do. I am sure you take it often bent over from your queer boyfriend.

      • Pipercat

        What’s funny, poor Edwin rails about misogyny, then here comes his feckless white night to save the day! Being a misanthrope… Perfect!

      • Gary Menten

        You have no point. You never did and nothing you pretend has been substantiated by anything you have written.

      • Edwin

        The point is obvious and well-substantiated. You are welcome to choose to disagree, even if for no other reason than pride or willful ignorance. It’s a right we all have.

      • Gary Menten

        The only pride and willful ignorance being shown here is your own.

      • Edwin

        Not true, sorry.

      • Gary Menten

        Baloney! Your arguments, if they can be called that, are pure bunk. When a newsperson grossly exaggerates numbers it’s bad writing but when someone suggests, without a hint of sexual bias that this news person should stick to running marathons ( a fact you brought up) as opposed to reporting news, that is not misogyny…except of course in your completely fact-free universe. Stop crying crocodile tears; no-one is buying your baloney. Perhaps you should go to work for Fox news. You’d fit in perfectly there.

        .

      • Edwin

        Stick to running marathons instead of running her mouth. Are you kidding me thats not misogyny? On what planet do you spend most of your time?

      • Gary Menten

        Right here on Earth. What universe do you live in? Please indicate your reasoning as to WHY this is misogynistic. There is no sex bias whatsoever in the comment. None. The author would have said exactly the same thing had the Fox commentator been a man.

      • Edwin

        Doubtful. Highly doubtful.

        I’ve explained enough so that even the most obtuse of liberal progressive might understand. If you’re not operating quite at that level yet, there’s probably not much more I can do to help you.

      • Gary Menten

        You’ve explained absolutely nothing. You start by making bold accusations and then retreat in to vagueness and evasion.

      • Pipercat

        You forgot irrelevancy!

      • Gary Menten

        Good job you haven’t. ;o)

      • Gary Menten

        Fortunately, you are keeping track of this.

      • steve barlow

        Wrong. Just because you are a queer from CA doesn’t give you the right to interject your stupid comments. Ted Nugent is killing and grilling. FU

      • Pipercat

        I guess this is point where your meds wear off and the booze kicks in.

      • Paul Duca

        But not inviting Steve….

      • Bill_Clement

        That may very well be, Eddie, but the fact that she works for FAUX news speaks volumes about her standards of conduct. Their stated policy is to lie and deceive. She’s a willing participant, so she deserves the comments she gets.
        And you’re a troll. And not a very clever one, at that. These comments have no hint of misogyny to them, merely disdain for a person who will lie to her listeners for money. The rest of her colleagues, men and women are as reprehensible as she, or more so.
        Go ahead, pick at my grammar, Eddie.

      • Edwin

        Your grammar is fine. It’s that ‘Regressive teapartier’ woman down below that has the horrible grammar issues. I feel bad for her.

      • jeanne gowan

        So what? She still LIES on FOX.

      • Edwin

        Nancy Pelosi just lied about not knowing who Jonathan Gruber was, or that he had anything to do with crafting the ACA bill. It was a blatant lie. She’s on video praising him and his efforts.

        Crickets here about that. No misogyny, either.

        You guys choose to wail and gnash your teeth about a woman filling in for Elisabeth Hasselbeck while she had cancer-related surgery. Heartless, chauvinistic, and idiotic. A liberal trifecta.

      • Paul Duca

        Will you be annoyed if Elizabeth returns without a bigger bust, Edwin?

      • Edwin

        She returned yesterday. She looks great.

      • Dewey

        So she’s pretty and fit and she doesn’t need $50k because she already makes a lot of money lying on Fox News. I am not impressed although you apparently are.

      • Paul Duca

        Over-hyped gestures are enough to dolts like Edwin…as long as they are accompanied by a hot body.

      • youcantgetridofmethateasy

        And 10,000 ancillary jobs is not that far fetched. GE would get orders for new locomotives and engines, as will rail car manufacturers. FTR Associates data through the Bloomberg service show that there is currently a backlog order of roughly 47,000 tank cars for the tank car manufacturers. In the third quarter of 2012, 4,500 tank cars were delivered and the time for an order to be processed and the tank cars to be manufactured has now lengthened to around 15 – 18 months. A strong signal that the crude-by-rail story is developing can be seen by an increasingly number of refiners choosing to own or lease these tank cars directly rather than leaving it to the rail companies.
        Here is a list of publicly listed rail and tank car manufacturers:
        1. Greenbrier Companies : Engages in the design, manufacture, and marketing of railroad freight car equipment in North America and Europe. Market cap at $488.33M, most recent closing price at $17.96.
        2. American Railcar Industries, Inc.: Designs, manufactures, and markets hopper and tank railcars in North America. Market cap at $754.94M, most recent closing price at $35.36.
        3. FreightCar America Inc.: Through its subsidiaries, manufactures, rebuilds, repairs, sells, and leases freight cars used for hauling coal, other bulk commodities, steel and other metals, forest products, and automobiles primarily in North America. Market cap at $296.39M, most recent closing price at $24.74
        4. Westinghouse Air Brake Technologies Corporation Provides technology-based equipment and services for the rail industry worldwide. Market cap at $4.28B, most recent closing price at $89.40.
        5. Trinity Industries Inc. (Provides products and services to the industrial, energy, transportation, and construction sectors primarily in the United States, Canada, Mexico, the United Kingdom, Singapore, and Sweden. Market cap at $2.97B, most recent closing price at $37.68.
        —————————————————————
        I’d fact check that fact check.

      • Edwin

        Do you have a Bloomberg terminal? How did you access that info? I can get it on my Bberg Anywhere at my home but not sure how to access it. Thks.

      • Wayseer

        She is a beautiful Lady, however I like to believe she is reading from a script. She seems to nice to believe some of the ugly things she sez.

      • Edwin

        I said that earlier, Wayseer. That she was probably reading that, and it could’ve ben stated a lot better. That the vitriol here directed at her was in no way warranted.

      • Wayseer

        It seems to me the Right does this a lot. If they put a beautiful lady saying the Dogma it’s accepted with out question. I heard Sarah Palin say about Russia: “They’re our next-door neighbors, and you can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska, from an island in Alaska.” I assumed that to be true. However another Beautiful lady said she said “I can see Russia from my house.”
        I saw both of them live and my brain accepted both versions.
        I don’t know if it’s in the Republican’s Leadership game plan to support beautiful women for that purpose. Michele Bachmann said 70 percent of food stamp funding goes to ‘bureaucrats’. I gave her a Pass. I did not research it at all, It just made me mad. Turns out it’s a lie. Turns out it’s less than 1% of the Budget, a lot less than 1%.
        Kimberly Guilfoyle, Michelle Malkin, Dana Perino, Andrea Tantaros, Megyn Kelly, Michele Bachmann, Annette Bosworth, Kim Wyman, Cathy McMorris Rodgers, Mia Love, Nikki Haley, Kristi Noem, Even a Miss America Erika Harold All very beautiful women that I want to believe when they say something. The democrats just don’t have that kind of beauty in their ranks. If you google Beautiful Democratic Women then you get people like Hillary Clinton, Arianna Huffington and Michelle Obama.
        Is it a spoon full of sugar makes the medicine go down or Democrats choose brain over beauty?

      • Maureen

        Oh then that’s ok. Nothing Fox can do will undo the shameless crusade on the national airwaves by the big fat fake patriot Sean Hannity that ended with a bunch of unemployed dirty, self proclaimed soldiers pointing guns at our federal agents
        I wonder why Fox never mentioned that a substantial percentage of agents in every assigned agency are vets . At all times
        Sean writes barf inducing cheesy books about his Iove for America and tried his best to get these guys shot.
        I’m not impressed with her show boat Marathon.

      • Judy Jackson

        She is a very pretty woman although she should ease up on the bleached hair. Just because someone is an athlete doesn’t mean they are smart. She got caught in a BLATANT lie. That tells me she doesn’t have anyone do fact checking before she opens her mouth.

      • Ziggy Hudson

        Thanks Edwin for pointing that out. The Libs pretend that they care about people…..while they support killing babies.

      • Ziggy Hudson

        Yes! Shannon is a genious for coming up with that! You clowns are clearly afraid of the truth. That’s why you listen to the Obama cheerleaders on network TV.

    • youcantgetridofmethateasy

      But when Nancy ‘Can’t hit a moving target’ Pelosi lies about not knowing just who Jonathan Gruber is to her, she clearly isn’t embarrassed by where she works either?

    • youcantgetridofmethateasy

      Yet Nancy Pelosi lies and you have no problem with it. Interesting.

    • Ziggy Hudson

      you’re an idi0t

  • Macdoodle

    And to think that the Democrat in the run off in Louisiana is so desperate she is promoting it.

    • Edwin

      Between Mary Landrieu and Anna Kooiman, who do you think has more overall influence over the pipeline?

      Who draws more of Allen’s attention and ire?

      Funny that.

    • regressive teaparty trash

      one of the few things U have ever posted that I agree with

  • Randy Hanson

    Shovel ready jobs my ass. All it takes is one Dem Senator to stop it right now.

    • jqanderson1

      The southern part of that pipeline is done and guess who got the construction jobs…….Canadians not Texans.

  • FD Brian

    this is why building a refinery in South Dakota makes the most sense for the economy and it also would move production to an area not susceptible to hurricanes.

    • Fact Checker Guy

      I’m all for building more refineries to process American oil for Americans but there is a reason refineries are built on the coast. The oil needs to be transported once it is refined and ships are easier to move it from one part of the country to another since we don’t have pipelines going everywhere. And a large part of crude we pump come out of the Gulf.

      • FD Brian

        good, then the fuel can be used in the midwest.

      • Fact Checker Guy

        That’s the whole point, with the pipeline, it is used to transport crude out of the middle of the country, not transport fuel back to the Midwest. The US producers want the pipeline for a cheap way to get their crude to the coast, turn it into fuel that they are allowed to export to other countries. It will fetch a better price in China than here. It won’t be fueling American cars, just Chinese.

      • FD Brian

        hence the reason I want it refined in the upper mid west.

  • jetguy601

    She’s a good-looking, uninformed, former Pilates instructor…….perfectly qualified to serve the BS that is called Fox News.

  • Jason Foster

    Make it a MANDATE that a minimum of 10,000 full time jobs be created and maintained within 50 miles of the pipeline and for a period of seven years. Then see if they still want to build!

  • dragonemisis

    The shortest route to get this oil from Alberta oil fields is straight through the Canadian province of British Columbia to the Pacific Ocean and then to China. They said NO! What’s wrong with us? Oh that’s right we elected a bunch of Republicans who’s fondest dream is to kiss the ass of Big Oil and allow this Canadian company to eminent domain sovereign American territory and cross the Ogalala Aquifer which is the water source for 100,000,000 people and farms; where the pipeline will eventually break polluting the land and water forever. Just say no America.

    • Gary Menten

      Stop confusing the trolls with facts!

  • Thebob

    This is stupid you have no clue. The Pipeline yes will help Canada, the reason they want it is because most of the Refineries are located along the Gulf Coast. The ripple effect will be felt once this project is completed. I miss the $1/gal gas I had as a teen. I know it won’t get back that low, but this will help Oil/Gas production and reduce more foreign oil constraints….Also alternative energies won’t work, unless our infrastructure is upgraded on a massive scale. Especially alternative fuels for cars….We don’t have the infrastructure to support it and nobody no company once to tackle it because of the astronomical costs of what it would take to remove Oil/Gas as the dominate fuel source….You can blame the Democrat oil tycoons of the 1900s….Oh and BTW the US now produces more Oil at home now than it imports from foreign entities….

    • JanMutcher

      Something is sure stupid here and it isn’t the above commenters . The oil is Canadian. It is going to be shipped to China. Reduce more foreign oil constraints, alternative energies won’t work, astronomical costs to remove oil/gas as the dominant fuel source, and by the way, we can also blame the democrats. What are you, a paid mouthpiece for the Koch Brothers? Never mind, I just answered my own question.

      • Paul Duca

        I thought they weren’t paying mouthpieces now that the election is over….

      • DavidD

        Left over funds that can’t be spent means less money next year.
        Spend it or lose it.

  • rossbro

    Just more bullshit from the Repubullshit Party.

  • hennypenny

    This snake if approved should never be allowed above ground! It should be a minimum 10 feet under ground and packed in 5 feet all around of non porouse clay to reduce leaks!

  • jqanderson1

    Ah, but then you aren’t counting the other jobs that will happen if the pipeline is built. Thousands of people will be required to clean up the many spills. And it will spill. Keystones other pipeline averages one leak per month and three major leaks per year. Then there are all the truckers that will be needed to truck drinking water into the area if the aquifer gets fouled.

  • jimbo5247

    1. Petroleum is a global marketplace. More petroleum on the market means lower prices globally, including in the U.S. It is always this way. Even oil produced in the U.S. is priced based on the global market. There is no such thing as U.S. oil that is produced exclusively for use in the U.S. at a special U.S.-only price.
    2. There seems to be confusion about the job numbers. 35-50 permanent jobs, yes, from the construction project itself. But the bulk of the permanent jobs come from the ongoing refinery and shipping work.
    3. There is already a Keystone pipeline. The XL is a proposed bypass of that pipeline. It’s 829 miles long, in the U.S. with the rest of the new construction in Canada. It’s not a whole new pipe from Canada to the Gulf.
    4. It’s not just for Canadian oil. A pipeline (actually, multiple pipelines) already exists for that. The XL extension creates a shortcut that passes near the Bakken region of North Dakota and Montana. Those regions will benefit from the XL pipeline.
    5. In the meantime, they’ve been shipping the oil south by rail. If you think there’s no risk of a spill from that…don’t know how to help you. Also, add in the carbon emissions from the trains pulling all that heavy oil.

  • srsmith

    I just red this, and if it’s true, now we know why the big push for this…

    Robert Reich

    Question: Who’s the largest foreign lease owner in Canada’s oil sands region of Alberta, Canada? Answer: Koch Industries, which holds leases on 1.1 million acre…s — an area nearly the size of Delaware — capable of producing tens of thousands of barrels of the region’s thick brand of crude oil in the next few years. The Keystone XL pipeline will lower transportation costs for all oil sands producers, bolstering the Koch’s profit margins. Do you think this might explain why Republicans (as well as some Democrats like Louisana Senator Mary Landrieu) are so eager to have the pipeline approved?

  • sooradar

    One of the selling points we as Canadians are giving America is that it will create 35,000 high paying jobs in Texas. If it’s such a job creator why wouldn’t we refine the oil here creating 35,000 jobs for Canadians? It’s just big oil looking to make more and more money.

  • doughpro

    So all those “shovel-ready” jobs (that weren’t so “shovel-ready”, as Obama tastelessly joked) are nothing to speak of, either? Why, then should any improvements on infra-structure be given any consideration since they are usually short-term job providers?
    That’s not very “progressive” thinking. Also, spending all your time and efforts bashing those who don’t share your viewpoints is not “progressive” thinking either. Your message is lost in the constant attack mode that you seem to be in. What are the progressive ideas? What are the progressive plans? What, in hell do you stand for besides trying to prove that those on the right are simply wrong?

  • Henry Avellaneda

    This pipeline is a bad deal and the president needs to veto it! It offers all the hazards to the environment and no benefit to the country!

  • Jeffrey Raum

    Politifact like Snopes are both owned and operated by liberals, so I believe they are about as reliable as the state run media!

  • Jack McKechnie

    She is not embarrassed ..when have they ever told the truth about anything?

  • High Altitudes

    Still enough brain dead libs around after the beating last week to make cracks about nothing?

  • Kato

    This
    pipeline is going to be one of the biggest disasters in American
    history. And Republicans should pay the price for this when it happens.
    If they tell you this Keystone XL is a big job creator that’ ” BULLSHIT ” temporary jobs that’s it.

    • Edwin

      Obola told us ACA was going to save families $2,500 a year.

  • Marc-André Jutras

    They should call it the Freedom Pipeline… Would be easier to sell.

    • Paul Duca

      Or the Sex with Hot Babes from Fox News Pipeline….

  • Michael Leonard Rowley

    Ah, a lesson in demeaning language, and meaningless retorts.

  • Fact Checker Guy

    There is some suggestion that the pipeline could also be used by American oil producers, who by law cannot sell American crude directly overseas, to transport even more American crude cheaply from storage tanks in the middle of the country to the Gulf refineries that would turn it into gasoline and diesel, which could be sold overseas. So there might be some additional jobs on the coast at the refineries due to the additional crude to process but there goes even more American oil going to overseas markets.

  • Nando R Salja

    Apart from the fact that she works at FOX, as an Engineer I consider her concern is very well founded. The ppl from the US usually don´t trust other systems and lack information on everything sciencewise. As a newsperson she’s definitely on the right track.

  • Arshad Sherif, M.A., M.Ed.

    Anna
    Kooiman can pretty much say anything she wants whenever she is on Fox because
    few are listening when she speaks. At 30, she is one of the most beautiful
    women on Fox and she is certainly the most revealing of all the Fox ladies. You
    cannot help but be totally immersed into her powerful thighs when she is on the
    air. You can see some of her very revealing moments on YouTube. If you Google
    her, you will see photos of her with her legs open wide enough to show her white
    panties. And a photo of her in her bikini reveals a large portion of her pubic
    area. She appears to be Brazilian shaven and ready for some serious action. So I
    really don’t have any problem with any opinion she has expressed or may express
    in the future on Fox News. And we must remember that anything she says is fully
    controlled by her employer. So she is never to blame for anything she says. And
    while I completely admire her beauty, I do have one criticism of her: When she
    talks, you always get the impression that she lacks class. I have not detected
    this lack of class in any of the other Fox babes. They all seem very classy. It
    may be a lack of education. While Wikipedia has her attending the University of
    North Carolina, there is no mention of what she studied, which is unusual
    because they always talk about what the chick majored in. And it is not even
    clear if she ever graduated. But she stands out at Fox News in two ways. First,
    she is as beautiful as they come. Secondly, she doesn’t have the classiness that
    the Fox babes are famous for. My guess is that she makes up for it by being very
    pleasing to her male bosses. She can certainly give them a good
    time.

  • Ziggy Hudson

    Only idiot Liberal math could come up with “35-50 ” permanent jobs created by a pipeline that’s thousands of miles long. There’s already a network of pipelines in the US , but this one is the focal point of Liberal Loons.