Fox News Moron Insists Walmart Will Spontaneously Save Us When Disaster Strikes (Video)

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Obviously FEMA is a government agency, and we all know how conservatives feel about pretty much anything to do with the government. Funny thing, though; I always notice that when a massive disaster happens to strike one of these “strongly Republican” regions of our country, suddenly those impacted by the disaster become huge fans of FEMA and Republican leaders from the impacted areas are quick to seek funds and help from the federal government.


The truth is, when it comes to the government Republicans love to hate it – until they desperately need it.

Well, possibly the most asinine argument I’ve ever heard against FEMA was uttered Sunday morning on Fox News’ Fox & Friends when Fox Business host John Stossel stated that we don’t really need the government’s help following major disasters because private companies like Walmart will “spontaneously” come in and fix everything.

“If you hadn’t seen a skating rink, you would say, ‘No, you need skating police, people go in this direction,’” Stossel said. “Think of how much of life is spontaneous – jazz, there’s no direction. So much of life is spontaneous, but our instinct is to say, ‘Government, give us a plan.’”

The simplistic mind of the average libertarian never ceases to amaze me. They take very small, much less complex examples, then try to claim that an entire society can be run in the exact same way. As if the direction people go on a skating rink is anything like how a massive society functions.

But Stossel’s main focus was how overly dependent people are on the government to help them following a massive disaster.

“After Katrina, Walmart and private charities helped people in many more ways than FEMA did,” he continued. “Because FEMA is incompetent because government tends to be. But also Walmart everyday needs to know what people need, and they were ready. They had more weather forecasters than some of the local governments do.”

Fox & Friends host Tucker Carlson wholeheartedly agreed.

“You’re challenging the very idea of Washington, D.C.,” Carlson stated. “Good for you.”

Out of all the natural disasters we’ve had in the last decade where FEMA has provided much needed and sought after assistance, this fool has to go back to Hurricane Katrina in 2005 to try to make his point? Wow.


While private companies and citizens did provide a lot of help following the storm, Katrina caused an estimated $108 billion in damages. Private contributions didn’t come anywhere near that level. Not to mention that FEMA does far more than just provide supplies, which is primarily what companies like Walmart do.

Besides, it’s not just ordinary people who seek help from the government – it’s the politicians (often times Republican ones) from those areas who are always quick to ask for aid from the federal government.

But the fact that Stossel tried to compare how we should run a massive and complex society using the example of the direction skaters skate at a rink, and how they don’t need someone to tell them which way to go, shows just how absurd and simpleminded he really is.

Watch his comments below via Fox News:





Allen Clifton

Allen Clifton is a native Texan who now lives in the Austin area. He has a degree in Political Science from Sam Houston State University. Allen is a co-founder of Forward Progressives and creator of the popular Right Off A Cliff column and Facebook page. Be sure to follow Allen on Twitter and Facebook, and subscribe to his channel on YouTube as well.

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  • strayaway

    Stossel should have mentioned that government had not maintained dykes and pumps in new Orleans resulting in much of that $108B in damages. Let’s not forget that when Katrina was expected to come in as a category 4 hurricane, FEMA rounded up mostly black people and put them into a structure rated for only a category 3 hurricane. Remember FEMA’s relief effort? Someone, quick, blame it on Bush. He really did have something to do with it.

    I once travelled to Florida for a visit after a large hurricane. The island I went to had a FEMA stand offering free ice with few takers. Meanwhile, Walmart had rushed in employees from other places to dispose of its damaged refrigerated food and replace it all with fresh food. 28 employees were brought in just to get the meat department operational again. Walmart used its computer experience to figure out just what people were going to need after the hurricane and get help in place the hour after the hurricane passed through. Walmart trucks were already on their way before the hurricane struck. Home Depot had managed to bring in semis of plywood before that hurricane and sold the plywood off the back of their trucks. This isn’t to take away from the free FEMA ice but people would have gotten hungry if they had to depend on FEMA for food like they did at the Super Dome.

    • Jim Valley

      Hooray for Walmart! Now can Walmart pass some laws that will improve and extend its responses to emergencies? Perhaps Walmart will invest in seawalls and dykes to hold back the rising sea and protect Florida. It could also assign some of its employees to maintain the seawalls it has built. If the president of Walmart declares the affected zone a “corporate disaster area” the people there could receive cash payments directly from Walmart to help them rebuild their communities. Perhaps Walmart could negotiate with large corporations in Canada to set up some kind of early warning system that would track storms involving both countries and provide public warnings.

      I assume that to do this work, all of which is aside from Walmart’s primary purpose of making a profit, we should probably let them charge the public “protection money” to defray the cost. Those who don’t pay, of course, get less protection.

      Yes. Replacing the government with Walmart sounds like a WONDERFUL idea!

      • Jim Bean

        Perhaps WalMart could advise government that permitting the establishment of communities at below sea level in costal areas subject to hurricane landfalls is a social engineering brain fart.

      • Jim Valley

        Before new communities are established they would have to check with Walmart first to see if they would qualify for corporate aid in the event of a disaster.

      • Jim Bean

        You mean like a ‘risk assessment?’ What a novel idea!

      • Creeayshun Sighuntist

        and maybe you can get your education at Wal-Mart in the future. Idiocracy anyone?

      • Jim Bean

        WalMart has done more to improve the standard of living of low and middle income folks that any one else (though big oil with the low gasoline prices is giving them a run for their money at the moment.) Credit where credit is due.

      • worrierking

        Always low prices. As long as local government provides $900,000 in benefits to each of our stores.

      • wendy

        Agree that affordable shopping is a great benefit not to be underestimated It’s just that maybe they can balance paying employees a better wage while keeping prices down. The fact that several of their employees (my cousin is one) who work full time still need public assistance to survive.
        Hard balance to achieve, but not impossible

      • Creeayshun Sighuntist

        Apparently they haven’t taken enough for themselves to let it trickle down to their employees. $175 Billion just doesn’t buy what it used to….

      • wendy

        Without greed, where would we be? Guess no one will ever know :/

      • Creeayshun Sighuntist

        yeah, while forcing out small businesses in virtually city/town around the country while actively under-pricing competition because they can take losses in some places until that business goes away, while buying in large quantities from 3rd world countries and not paying a living wage to employees. Yeah, great work. The business model works for sure for the Walton’s, but it’s not helping a single small business owner anywhere.

      • wendy

        While it sucks for small business owners, its kind of a catch 22; there are more shoppers needing affordable items than there are business owners. Difficult to help both. Maybe business owners these days need way more capital than they used to for survival.
        So many are in the same boat.

      • wendy

        I would prefer to shop in a small business for food or clothes but simply cannot afford to :/

      • Jim Bean
      • worrierking

        Maybe you can borrow Obama’s time machine and go back to 1718 and offer your sage advice about risk assessment to the French.

      • Creeayshun Sighuntist

        That’s spelled “Masheen” (sorry, I can’t be in any conversation with Jim Bean in it, and not reference Idiocracy)

      • Jim Bean

        If it weren’t for the French, you’d be a Brit.

      • strayaway

        Walmart would have been sued to death if it had been responsible for maintaining the dykes and pumps that failed and for endangering all the people it put in the Superdome. Hundreds of government school busses were allowed to submerge in a parking lot instead of taking residents out of town. One teen ager stole a school bus and evacuated a bus load of people to safety. He was charged with stealing the bus. Canadian Mounties arrived from Canada after Katrina passed through to discover that they the US Army hadn’t made it yet.

        Walmart has its faults as you mentioned. Don’t shop there for those reasons. However, the premise of this article was to discredit Stossel’s comment about Walmart, relative to government, with regard to the help it offered in hurricanes. Stossel wasn’t suggesting that Walmart offered good wages. I just pointed out that much of this wouldn’t have happened had the government done its job and that, from my experience, Walmart and Home Depot did laps around FEMA in addressing the immediate needs of people who needed things like generators, food, and building material. They had that stuff within two days of the hurricane’s passing. Where I was in Florida, I thought that the local municipal government did a fine job of addressing debris, down power lines, and displaced beach sand so residents could get back in and start doing their own repairs.

      • wendy

        Guessing all this help comes with strings attached called tax deductions. Maybe?

      • Jim Valley

        Walmart will have a portion of your income withheld from your paycheck to finance its rescue operations.

    • Creeayshun Sighuntist

      So Wal-Mart is now “too big to fail” in your grand plan, huh? Wow, what a great idea…. What could go wrong?

      • strayaway

        No, I wrote in the first sentence that “Walmart would have been sued to death” had it operated as incompetently as governments had it been charged with those same responsibilities. Also, I suggested not shopping there.

  • Jim Valley

    What stupid people today’s conservatives are. The leaders AND the followers.

  • Creeayshun Sighuntist

    Anyone remember WHY FEMA was so incompetent during the Bush residency and during Katrina? Yep, Bush appointed a person who knew absolutely zero about running anything and whose sole purpose was to break it so it wouldn’t work. Of course it didn’t work under Bush because that was his plan. When you appoint incompetence, you get just that.

    Wal-Mart is only about making as much money as possible while paying its employees as little as possible and giving the majority of them no benefits at all. Anyone suggesting otherwise is a total nitwit. If they really wanted to do something positive in the United States, they could start by paying their employees a living wage so they can move off of SNAP and other gov assistance programs and we as a country can stop subsidizing the Walton family net worth.

    • strayaway

      Bush was at fault. The Democratic governor and mayor were also at fault. So was whatever federal agencies were in charge of New Orleans safety for a number of decades. The pumps were from the 1890’s.

      Walmart and Home depot are all about making money. However sometimes that motive lines up with what people need like generators, new refrigerators, food to refill refrigerators, shingles, cleaning supplies, bleach, and other supplies. In this case it was good that someone stepped in. Meanwhile, back at the government operation at the Superdome, people were defecating in the hallways, rapes were occurring, and there was no food. Given the choice, I would have headed to Walmart although you have a good point that FEMA probably paid its employees more than Walmart. Good Democrats, no doubt, headed instead for the Superdome for government help.

      Amtrak, to its credit, offered free passage out of New Orleans. It had some trains parked there that had to be evacuated before the predicted hurricane. Amtrak contacted Mayor Nagin’s office with the offer. However, Mayor Nagin’s office never got back to Amtrak and the trains left empty.

      • Creeayshun Sighuntist

        overgeneralize much about Democrats? What makes you think there weren’t republicans forced into the Superdome? Did you poll people as they showed up or are you just making it up as you go?

      • Pipercat

        He’s being spontaneous.

      • strayaway

        You’re right. I was generalizing. It was mostly black New Orleans’ residents who went to the Superdome when the Mayor turned hundreds of school busses into submarines and allowed Amtrak trains to escape empty. But point taken; most of those black New Orleans residents who wound up in the Superdome could have been Republicans.

        I copied the weather report when Katrina was still a day or two offshore if you are interested. Given that weather report, it was criminal of the Federal, State, and City governments to have put those people into the Superdome instead of taking them out of town. Fortunately, Katrina veered a little east of New Orleans.

      • Creeayshun Sighuntist

        Oh, so you just don’t like black people. Got it. Funny how you don’t mention FEMA in relation to it helping the poorer people affected in say Arkansas and other predominantly white areas…..why am I not surprised?

      • strayaway

        You are going astray. Actually, a better case could be made that you don’t like black people. You were trying to make the case that government is our salvation. I was taking Stossel’s side that Walmart provided better immediate relief than government with regard to Katrina. Your solution led to inadequate levees causing the problem and your solution to the problem as to stick thousands of people, mostly blacks, in the Superdome. Given the weather predictions, that was a death sentence. I didn’t put them there. You did. You and your stupid dependence on government. At least Amtrak and the weather bureau did what they could. First you tried to switch the subject to Walmart pay and benefits . Then you were all concerned about Walmart’s motives for helping hurricane victims. Now you’ve reached rock bottom by crying racism in response to the problems you side caused. Everything but admit that Walmart addressed problems at hand better then FEMA with its blue bags of ice no one wanted.

      • Creeayshun Sighuntist

        No my friend, you are the one who mentioned race, and let’s just say in a less than positive way. You should lay off of the Rush Limbaugh program for awhile…..

      • strayaway

        The article focuses on Stossel’s correct point that Walmart met the needs of Hurricane victims better than the federal government. It is not about how Walmart pays its employees, whether I think walmart “is too big to fail”, Walmart’s motives for distributing necessities, whether I “like black people”, or (newest one) imagining that I listen to Rush that you obfuscated and distract with. You forgot to tie in the Koch brothers with reference to Stossel’s remark. You are all over the place except to prove government did a better job than Walmart at providing necessities after Katrina. At that, the point of the article, you failed.

      • Creeayshun Sighuntist

        No, the article is about the ridiculous implication by Stossel that Walmart was of more use and better equipped than FEMA, and should be the US model of disaster relief. And for some reason you also think that is a good idea.
        Again, when you appoint incompetence to run an agency, which Bush did, you get an incompetent agency. And if you want to rely on the good will of the Waltons when your entire city is destroyed, by all means, you go do that.

      • strayaway

        My reasons, as I’ve explained, are based on what happened in New Orleans and what I witnessed firsthand in Florida immediately after Charlie came through. Bush and Brownie were incompetent but why stop there? The Democratic Governor and Democratic Mayor Nagin were equally incompetent as were federal agencies going back quite a few administrations who allowed inadequate New Orleans’ levees and pumps.

        You don’t get the part about even if Walmart or Home Depot were driven by a profit motive, at least they provided what victims needed NOW instead of leaving them without food for days in the Superdome. Remember the photos of bodies on the sidewalk?

        “MAYOR NAGIN: “I need reinforcements, I need troops, man. I need 500 buses, man. We ain’t talking about — you know, one of the briefings we had, they were talking about getting public school bus drivers to come down here and bus people out here.”

        I’m like, “You got to be kidding me. This is a national disaster. Get every doggone Greyhound bus line in the country and get their asses moving
        to New Orleans.””

        Mayor Nagin was right. It was a national disaster. But any mayor who can’t even find someone to drive hundreds of school busses and municipal busses out of town is pretty much going to have a disaster no matter what the circumstances. While Nagin fiddled, Walmart was loading its trucks. Here’s a synopsis of how Walmart didsuch a good job in New Orleans: wwwDOTwsjDOTcom/articles/SB112648681539237605

      • strayaway

        A message from our weather bureau I thought to copy at the time. When Burlington Northern and Amtrak read this, they got their moving stock out of town. When Walmart read this, it loaded its trucks with generators, food and cleaning supplies and lined up labor to distribute provisions. When Mayor Nagin read this, he made plans to move his family to Houston although he scuttled hundreds of school buses leaving local residents the option of staying in the Superdome which was only designed for a category 3 hurricane. The state and federal response was lacking too. Katrina was a category 5 hurricane and was expected to hit New Orleans as such. Fortunately for residents who opted for government protection at the Superdome, Katrina veered a little east and hit land the next day as a category 3 storm. Otherwise, thousands might have died.

        URGENT – WEATHER MESSAGE

        NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE NEW ORLEANS LA

        413 PM CDT SUN AUG 28 2005

        EXTREMELY DANGEROUS HURRICANE KATRINA CONTINUES TO APPROACH THE

        MISSISSIPPI RIVER DELTA

        DEVASTATING DAMAGE EXPECTED

        MOST OF THE AREA WILL BE UNINHABITABLE FOR WEEKS…PERHAPS LONGER. AT LEAST ONE HALF OF WELL CONSTRUCTED HOMES WILL HAVE ROOF AND WALL FAILURE. ALL GABLED ROOFS WILL FAIL…LEAVING THOSE HOMES SEVERELY DAMAGED OR DESTROYED.

        THE MAJORITY OF INDUSTRIAL BUILDINGS WILL BECOME NON FUNCTIONAL. PARTIAL TO COMPLETE WALL AND ROOF FAILURE IS EXPECTED. ALL WOOD FRAMED LOW RISING APARTMENT BUILDINGS WILL BE DESTROYED. CONCRETE BLOCK LOW RISE APARTMENTS WILL SUSTAIN MAJOR DAMAGE…INCLUDING SOME WALL AND ROOF FAILURE.

        HIGH RISE OFFICE AND APARTMENT BUILDINGS WILL SWAY DANGEROUSLY…A

        FEW TO THE POINT OF TOTAL COLLAPSE. ALL WINDOWS WILL BLOW OUT.

        AIRBORNE DEBRIS WILL BE WIDESPREAD…AND MAY INCLUDE HEAVY ITEMS SUCHAS HOUSEHOLD APPLIANCES AND EVEN LIGHT VEHICLES. SPORT UTILITY VEHICLES AND LIGHT TRUCKS WILL BE MOVED. THE BLOWN DEBRIS WILL CREATE ADDITIONAL DESTRUCTION. PERSONS…PETS…AND LIVESTOCK EXPOSED TO THE WINDS WILL FACE CERTAIN DEATH IF STRUCK.

        POWER OUTAGES WILL LAST FOR WEEKS…AS MOST POWER POLES WILL BE DOWN AND TRANSFORMERS DESTROYED. WATER SHORTAGES WILL MAKE HUMAN SUFFERING INCREDIBLE BY MODERN STANDARDS.

      • Creeayshun Sighuntist

        kind of like, “Bin Laden determined to strike inside the United States”. Do you whine about Bush reading those tea leaves too? Or are you not outraged about that because you haven’t been told to be outraged about that….

      • Creeayshun Sighuntist

        And I guess you can just hope that their instincts of greed line up with your need to survive when the next disaster happens in you and your family’s area. If it doesn’t (?), oh well…..

      • strayaway

        If it doesn’t, I’ll just have to cross my fingers and depend on the government like all the folks in the Superdome did.

  • Pipercat

    John Stossel all amazes me! Just when I thought he couldn’t be any more full of shit, he always seems to prove his capacity to be infinite.