GOP House Candidate Has Disgusting Theory For What Caused Sandy Hook Shooting

zach-dasherI guess ignorance runs in the family. GOP House candidate Zach Dasher, nephew of Duck Dynasty’s Phil Robertson, apparently knows exactly what caused the horrific Sandy Hook shooting in 2012.

Atheists.

Just three days following the shooting, Dasher said, “He was made in the image of God. But somewhere along the way he believed what the atheist says. He reduced humanity to nothing more than a collection of atoms, to be discarded like an old banana peel. I guarantee you, now this is my hypothesis, that even saw himself as nothing more than chemicals.”

And if you’re one of those “crazy” people who blamed the shooting on our gun culture or mental illness, he had a few words for you as well.

“To blame the acts of a mass murderer on mental illness, for one, is a slap in the face, I think, to reason. It’s the equivalent of blaming lung cancer on coughing,” he continued. 

So, to summarize, it wasn’t our gun culture or mental illness that led to the Sandy Hook shooting – it was atheism.

Normally I would explain why these comments are so incredibly stupid, but I think it’s rather obvious. But I will say that this does perfectly showcase the ignorance of your typical right-wing religious fanatic.

I really wonder what Mr. Dasher would say caused the horrific acts of violence committed by Christians. And by that I don’t just mean the extreme case of a mass shooting, but other violent acts like domestic violence or your everyday gun violence.

Violent acts that are committed every single day by people who consider themselves Christians.

Or what about groups like the Westboro Baptist Church who use their religion to justify their blinding hate and ignorance?

Hell, human history is littered with atrocious acts of violence committed “in the name of God.” After all, isn’t a belief in Allah (aka God) one element that Islamic radicals like ISIS use to justify their barbaric behavior?

But there’s really no need to try to find any kind of logic behind his asinine comments, because there is none. These comments were nothing more than ignorant, right-wing religious nonsense. And anyone who votes for this fool should be ashamed of themselves.


Allen Clifton

Allen Clifton is a native Texan who now lives in the Austin area. He has a degree in Political Science from Sam Houston State University. Allen is a co-founder of Forward Progressives and creator of the popular Right Off A Cliff column and Facebook page. Be sure to follow Allen on Twitter and Facebook, and subscribe to his channel on YouTube as well.

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  • Stephen Barlow

    Gotta love them expert ghost worshippers who ache for a KARMAFREE afterlife. IN ALL truth there is a huge bit of fantasy in it’s explanation. If rJESUS was more than a martyred rabbi you can see the fantasy in every thing from the Gospel and ever after.

    The religions of St Paul and all of Islam are rife with poetic license. 72 virgins, dunking you head forgives all future sins…

    All religious fanatics share one common trait. They will all defend to the death, every morsel of idiocy of their ritual while denying the most simple and basic root truth of their faith.

    You can not love your neighbor while holding a gun.

    • saltcay

      Emphasis on the statement “Defend to the DEATH”! If you can’t convert them, KILL THEM!

    • Cat Marcuri

      Actually, that “72 virgins” thing isn’t in the Koran. Just sayin’…

      • Stephen Barlow

        One dunk and forgiven isn’t in the bible either. But Baptists sell that crap every Wednesday and Sunday.

      • U liberal;s atheist f*cktard.

  • barefoot bob

    Mental illness is a “Family Value”, in that family.

  • I-RIGHT-I

    “You can not love your neighbor while holding a gun”
    The gun protects my neighbor as much as it protects me. That’s love man!

  • saltcay

    This idiot does know that more people have been killed in the name of religion than anything else in history, right?

    • TheEquilizer2U

      Your talking about Islam right?

      • JustSomeone

        And Christianity. It isn’t just one religion that has murdered people for their beliefs.

      • TheEquilizer2U

        but you liberals ONLY refer to Christianity when you speak of the “horrors” of organized religion.

        It’s called Bias, and you liberals have it just as bad as anyone else.

      • saltcay

        I’m talking about ALL religion. Islam, Christianity, it doesn’t make a difference. Oppression is oppression in every form. Of course being a true religious conservative, you wouldn’t know anything about The Spanish Inquisition, the Crusades, etc. You only think that Christian oppression is good, any other oppression is bad.

      • TheEquilizer2U

        Liberal PC oppression is just as bad.

        The spanish inquisition and the crusades were started because the MUSLIMS invaded europe.

        Get that thru your PC head

      • Cat Marcuri

        Wrong. The Spanish Inquisition was started because Christians were invading Moslem lands, i.e. the Iberian Peninsula. It was ALSO started about 400 years later than you seem to think, honey. Around 1490, to be precise. The Crusades were started because Constantinople had requested help FORTY YEARS EARLIER, and Pope Urban used it to move the restless armies out of Europe where they had been causing death and destruction.

      • TheEquilizer2U

        The spanish inquisition came after the crusades in an attempt to weed out the muslims that tried to stay in Spain.
        Because during the Crusades, when the muslims were pushed out of Spain, they were given a choice.
        If they wanted to stay in Spain, they had to renounce islam and convert to christianity.
        Many did not renounce, and refused to leave. So they were killed.

      • JustSomeone

        Finally, you admit that even Christians have killed innocent people for not sharing the same beliefs. Thank you.

      • Wayne Steele

        That’s not at all what he said or what the truth is. If someone was of a different faith and admitted it, they were kicked out of the country. If someone lied about converting to Christianity in order to stay, then they were killed. Lying under oath is a crime, therefore they were not “innocent”, even if the punishment was way overboard. But of course, the true impetus behind the whole thing was taking people’s stuff. The modern version of this practice in the United States is called “civil forfeiture”.

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        christians throughout history have killed people all over this planet who didnt “convert” to ‘gods’ LOVE
        need examples???

      • TheEquilizer2U

        Now if we can only get you liberals to stop defending islamists who kill innocent people.
        Think it will ever happen?

        Ya me neither…

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      • TheEquilizer2U

        More proof that liberals defend beheadings by muslims

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      • TheEquilizer2U

        Everyday

      • Fabj

        Shut your mouth and read what she wrote. Your google is wrong

      • TheEquilizer2U

        All documented facts
        The Crusades and the inquisition are all the result of invasions from the middle east and africa.

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        wrong again====
        papal inquisition– (medieval) was to suppress catharism & waldensians: neither of those 2 were muslim from 1184 to about 1233
        *********************************************************
        spansih inquisition – oct 1478: this was to discover and PUNISH the ‘crypto-jews’….and punsiment began with burning( alive) of 6 people feb 6 1481
        people were tortured and killed based upon testimony of rivals and slaves and enemies; no test was given to make certain the testimont was accurate; thus– many good practicing christians were also killed without mercy
        ====================================
        Hmmmmm,,,,,,,,,,,, no mention of MOSLEMS!!
        you lose again

      • TheEquilizer2U

        All non-christians were suppose to be gone centuries ago.
        Spain was invaded and occupied, we liberated it and returned it to christianity.

        You lose

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        who is /was “we”?? small dicked losers such as you?

      • TheEquilizer2U

        LOL….

      • gian keys LOVES shemale porn

        hmmmmmmmm,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, they didnt renounce THEIR religion,,,, so they were killed
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        would that be muslims killing christians,,,or christians killing muslims?
        lemme know

      • TheEquilizer2U

        Spain was invaded, we pushed you out, and your religions

        You lose

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        im agnostic,,,,,,,,,, not some small brained imbecile who suckles the tete of superstition
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        now– about that CHRITIAN CRUSADES / OTTOMAN EMPIRE glaring historical MISTAKE U keep making,,,,,

      • TheEquilizer2U

        Sorry you lost
        Hope you feel better soon

      • Charles Vincent

        The Ottomans were of the Muslim faith that was his point. Hence his point about Islamic crusades.

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        he also was referring to CHRISTIAN crusades resulting from islamic incursions; he didnt use the word CRUSADE at all referencing the muslims. wannn try again charles? U really should READ all of his stuff b4 u look so stupid

      • Fabj

        Liberal pc oppresion is a a bad as killing for a religion? interesting.

      • TheEquilizer2U

        Your PC oppression is what helps islam kill people.
        You protect terrorists.

        Aren’t you proud of yourselves?

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      • TheEquilizer2U

        Just read the articles all over liberal media
        Do you live in a cave?

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      • TheEquilizer2U

        Thats your homework

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        muslims were probably sick of the “christians” screwing them over and demanding they believe in JEEEESUS

      • TheEquilizer2U

        Then stay in your own country

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        and where is the so-called CHRISTIAN country??
        it is NOT America as our founding fathers over & over & over again said we are NOT based upon CHRISTIANITY
        =================================

      • TheEquilizer2U

        Did I say it did?
        Your crazy

      • JustSomeone

        Who said I was a liberal? You were the one who assumed they were talking about Islam. I was just clarifying that it isn’t just one religion that has committed horrible acts against others because of what they believe.

      • TheEquilizer2U

        And the word muslim or islam is never spoken by liberals when you speak of the horrible acts done by religion.

      • JustSomeone

        Of course they are. I’m not saying they aren’t. That being said, there are other religions that have blame too. Christianity, Judaism, and Islam have all done horrible things to people because of what they believe. To say differently would be idiotic.

      • TheEquilizer2U

        No, they are not.
        You liberals NEVER mention islam or muslims when speaking out against religion.

        And yes, liberals are idiotic.

      • JustSomeone

        You keep assuming that I am a liberal. I don’t get why you think that. If you want to think that Muslims are the only religious group that has ever murdered others, forced people into slavery, or forced people to convert to their religion, then you need to read a few more books on history, and not just the ones that agree with your opinion. Branch out a little in what you read. You might learn something.

      • TheEquilizer2U

        See now youre doing it to me.
        Assuming I think only muslims commit these sort of crimes.

        This is why you are a liberal.
        You are unable to have a discussion.

      • JustSomeone

        If you want to have a discussion, stop with the “Muslim” talking points. You are the one who made the blanket statement of “Your talking about Islam right”. You want to group a bunch of people together under a label and say they never mention Islam, blah blah blah. What label do you give yourself in not mentioning other religions for the same things you want to accuse Islam of?

        I will say again, I am not a liberal.

      • TheEquilizer2U

        You most certainly are a liberal.

        And I wish I didn’t have to keep reminding you liberals that islam is no better.
        When I see liberals attacking islam, then I’ll stop reminding you.
        But I dont see that happening anytime soon

      • JustSomeone

        If I am a liberal, what does that make you?

        Nowhere, in anything I have written, have I said that Islam is better than any other religion. You haven’t “reminded” me of anything.

      • TheEquilizer2U

        I’m reminding you of your bias

      • JustSomeone

        I think before you ‘remind’ someone of their supposed bias, you need to take a very long look in the mirror.

      • TheEquilizer2U

        At least I can look myself in the mirror.

        How can you liberals keep defending islam while they behead people left and right?
        Kidnapping little girls, raping them and selling them into slavery.
        And still you hate American veterans more than islamists.

        You are one sick sob

      • JustSomeone

        You are the one who is sick. You don’t know anything about me, yet you assume I am a liberal because I dared to speak. Not that I have a different opinion than you, cause let us face it, you haven’t stuck to a single point in all of your ramblings except to call people liberals.

        It is because of our veterans that you can have your opinion and I can have mine. At the end of the day, your opinion of me doesn’t matter because you are just a hateful person who gets off on trying to tell people off with facts that aren’t true. You choose buzz words instead of having a real discussion. Everything you have tried to accuse of being the actions of Muslims, are just as equally the actions of other religions, including Christianity and Judaism. Open your eyes and see the world for what it is. You can’t condemn all Muslims for the actions of a few any more than you can condemn all Christians for what a few of them do. Well, I guess you can, but it just makes you an jerk.

        Guess what? Some of those American veterans you want to accuse me of hating are Muslim. There are also veterans who are Christian, Jewish, Wiccan, Pagan, Buddhist, and Hindu. The list could go on and on. You act like a child, calling people names because they hurt your feelings. Grow up or at least pretend to be an adult and not a whiny child who isn’t getting their way.

      • TheEquilizer2U

        bla bla bla… keep hating on the hand that feeds you.
        Typical liberal, you should spend some time over in africa or the middle east.

        Then come back here and tell us how bad we have it in America

      • JustSomeone

        Do you even know what you are talking about? Or are you a robot just spouting idiocy? Because the only thing you did was prove my point. Buzz words with no real discussion or point.

        And bla, is actually spelled blah, which is why when you wrote bla, it put the red line underneath, that tells you that you spelled it wrong.

      • TheEquilizer2U

        Of course I know, its you that is blinded by your liberalism.
        You have NO real world experience

      • gian keys LOVES shemale porn

        not one person here has defended the muslim scumbags,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
        now U bring up veterans; which ( again) no one has discussed
        =======================================
        would that be the american soldiers who got KILLED and MAIMED — by the THOUSANDS– in that republican war ( IRAQ) based upon LIES??
        those veterans/soldiers??
        OK!!! lets go there now– this we be fun having U justify THAT deadly incursion ( see: crusade)

      • TheEquilizer2U

        Everyday liberals defend people like the Hamas over Jews.
        Its really digusting

      • Fabj

        You’re reminding us that you make up facts and labels to make yourself seem big and strong behind text, most of which is not proper english under a far right conservative failed talking point.

      • TheEquilizer2U

        Nobody is better than a liberal at making up facts.

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        hes mad ay us for PROVIDING facts which destroy his ” crusades’ and “inquisition” fallacies!
        awww,,,,,,,,,,,, hes cute when hes puffy mad

      • TheEquilizer2U

        Still waiting on yours

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      • TheEquilizer2U

        Heres your sign

      • TheEquilizer2U

        You got some growing up to do boy

      • gian keys LOVES shemale porn

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      • Fabj

        Cool. Turn on the news. Hopefully you’ll shut up then.

      • TheEquilizer2U

        I cant shut up, not with looney left wing nut jobs like you running around.

      • gian keys LOVES shemale porn

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      • TheEquilizer2U

        sure you do….

      • JustSomeone isn’t the one that’s unable to have a discussion. You’ve just repeated the same things over and over again. I consider myself liberal leaning and I have no problem at all saying Islam inspires many atrocities against people who have different beliefs. The evidence of that is in the news every single day.

      • Cat Marcuri

        I agree, with Wanda and Just. In fact, recently I was reading a book about militant Buddhists who were attacking people who they considered to be anti-Buddhist because they didn’t agree with this group’s extremist views of what constitutes Buddhism. Talk about a deranged world view! How do you condone violence and still claim to be Buddhist?? The mind boggles.

      • TheEquilizer2U

        Using the typical liberal talking points and then accuse me of repeating myself? …LOL

      • gian keys LOVES shemale porn

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        ……. we are reading it in your posts—

      • TheEquilizer2U

        talking points again?

      • gian keys LOVES shemale porn

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        ==================================
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      • TheEquilizer2U

        Always with your leftist talking points…. borring

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      • TheEquilizer2U

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      • gian keys LOVES shemale porn

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      • Fabj

        Your cut downs are so weak. “you disagree with me, makes you liberal.” As if agreeing with your fake view of history is honesty. The whole page ripped you a new ass.

      • TheEquilizer2U

        All documented facts

      • gian keys LOVES shemale porn

        u have yet to cite a source for th ersatz “facts” u claim
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        UUUU lose

      • TheEquilizer2U

        The facts trump your trolling

      • gian keys LOVES shemale porn

        YOU
        ,,,,,,,,,,,,,, are ONLY mentioning muslims
        =======================================
        you have NOT mentioned any other sect
        *****************************************************
        U lose again

      • TheEquilizer2U

        Its the ones you love, why deny it?

      • Fabj

        Dude, Bill Maher literally does entire shows on this with sitting democrats. You cannot keep lying and expect people to not call you out. We just did 150 airstrikes over an islamic region. You mental?

      • TheEquilizer2U

        All facts, just look at Huff and puff post, always defending muslims and calling war vets the “real” threat to America.

      • gian keys LOVES shemale porn

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        until U do this U remain a small dicked loser who cries

      • TheEquilizer2U

        Everyday my boy
        And most of them are just bloggers…lol

      • doctor_robot

        that is simply not true. you are either very ill-informed, a liar, or retarded. i’m going with all three.

      • TheEquilizer2U

        I cant tell if your in denial or just a really bad liar?

      • Sean T Gallagher

        The Equalizer 2U ..dude time and time again your so-called facts are in error ,do not hold up to historical facts ,and every time you are caught you change the subject into what Muslims may be doing ..you are the worst kind of intellectual midget for your side .so if you would like to win an argument based on known facts( not your made up facts) next time please bring an adult to this party …And as for liberals ,we have been sounding the alarm on the misogyny and hate in the muslim world for decades ,white slavery ,religious intrusion into government and the arming of Muslim leaders for decades ,the abandonment of the afghan people after the fall of the soviet empire ,,,etc.etc, yep that was us buzzing in Reagan ear ,George HW bush’s ear and GWB ear ,but alas it all fell on deaf ears , like GHWB abandonment of the fledgling afghan government after they defeated the soviets with our military help ,we did not stick around for civil and governmental help ….leads directly to corruption and then the Taliban ..we buzzed around Ronald Reagan ear as he up armed the Iraqi peoples army ,5 years later we were engaged in a major war with them ,12 years after that .we were in a republican created quagmire .. lie all you want about liberals warnings about radical Muslims ,but we CAN say I told you so ….you right wing low-life’s just didn’t listen ..

      • TheEquilizer2U

        And time and time again I will stand up to your baseless accusations with facts.

        All the same people, all from the same area.
        Starting from 500AD thru 1918.
        During all that time, middle easterners and africans have waged war and took slaves from Europe and Asia.

        All of these facts and more are documented everywhere, but you wont see it on any liberal news cast.
        Now when will you stop defending islam?

      • Fabj

        Right. We only have gone to war with them about 15 times in the last 20 years. dumbass.

      • TheEquilizer2U

        And you liberals always cry about it too.
        Bush did it, he wanted war we didn’t…..lol

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        =================================
        you lose again

      • TheEquilizer2U

        Because they know the heat is on
        Libs lose big in 2014

      • Cat Marcuri

        Point of order: In Tealiban-speak, “liberal”refers to anyone who doesn’t agree with the narrow and restrictive opinions of the Right Wing Nuts. Even though I am a moderate independent, I would qualify as a “liberal” in their book because I don’t advocate hate and violence and enforced theocracy. So I will accept your comment of “you liberals” and wear it proudly. Because it means I’m not as short-sighted or as ignorant as your ilk. Thank you!

      • TheEquilizer2U

        Which is why I am not religious. Thank you very much.
        But if I had a choice, I would rather live in a christian society than a liberal one.
        You leftists are far worse.

      • Fabj

        Cool, then go kill your neighbor on sunday and bang after marriage. Rape and incest or ok. Just dont honor another god…ewwww.

      • TheEquilizer2U

        Those things are only practiced by muslims.
        And you leftists still admire them….. gross

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        explain to me why RAPE is NOT in the 10 ‘commandments’……
        ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, but using “gods” name in vain is?????

      • TheEquilizer2U

        So now your defending rape.

        Youre sicker than I thought

      • gian keys LOVES shemale porn

        completely the opposite
        ======================
        im again destryong the BIBLE

      • TheEquilizer2U

        Be my guest, I dont read it
        Now I see your a bigot as well

      • RLHHoof

        Jesus was a liberal hippy! I’m pretty sure when he said “Treat others as you would have them treat you.” he didn’t mean the kind of poisonous vitral you are spewing!

      • TheEquilizer2U

        But then liberals came along and said, treat others as you would have them treat you, unless hes white and/or successful.

      • RLHHoof

        What is a liberal in your book? Anyone who disagrees with anything you say? Does that make you a conservative? What are you conserving?

      • RLHHoof

        By the way, I am white AND successful.

      • TheEquilizer2U

        No thats a liberal tactic.
        I dont sensor people like you liberals do…. disgusting

      • RLHHoof

        Quit evading and just answer the question! You fling the word “liberal” like it is a disease, by t you seem unable to define what it means, other than you don’t like it.

      • TheEquilizer2U

        I gave you the facts, you cant refute them before looking them up
        Thats how it works libtard

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      • TheEquilizer2U

        Its agreed youre a troll

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        you lose again

      • TheEquilizer2U

        There are no girls on the internetz

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      • TheEquilizer2U

        So who are you today?

      • doctor_robot

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      • TheEquilizer2U

        Youre the sicko
        And your not fooling anyone.

        Watch the upcoming elections and get a taste of where liberalism is going.

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        going liberal; flattening the regressive white trash crybabies

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        CHRIST was a liberal

      • Charles Vincent

        That’s a two way street cat.

      • RBI

        Christianity, with all its disparate denominations, is the most common religion in the States. When atheists in the States have a fallout with a religion, it’s typically Christianity. How much sense does it make, when it comes to religion, to put focus on things outside our experiences?

      • TheEquilizer2U

        It’s a big world out there,, open your eyes.

      • Fabj

        Many liberals are Christian. We just hate your fake war on Xmas and the fact that you feel your savior is an different ethnicity.

      • TheEquilizer2U

        sorry troll, I’m not religious.

      • gian keys LOVES shemale porn

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        I call it ( and ALL religion) stupidity and superstition
        ===================================
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      • Christianity caused the Crusades, the idea of Manifest Destiny (which led us to wipe out almost every Native American), the OK City bombing, and the immediate retaliation against Muslims (or those appearing to be Muslims) in the US directly following 9/11

      • TheEquilizer2U

        No, the muslim invasions into Europe caused the Crusades.
        Try reading a book, this is all documented FACT.

        The Ottoman Empire (muslims and african warlords) also invaded other lands, like China and Europe. They took slaves from europe all the way up until 1918, but were finally stopped.

        They had thier own manifest destiny.
        Your just bitter because you lost.

      • The Ottoman Empire was founded after the Crusades, as a direct result of the failed military campaigns of European Christians. And at the time of the first Crusade, Muslims weren’t anywhere near Italy or Hungary (two European “countries” that weren’t even countries back then, but were actually made up of different kingdoms that shared no relation to one another)

      • TheEquilizer2U

        Now your just lying.
        The Ottoman empire was created after the many failed attempts by muslims and africans invading Europe.
        The Ottoman empire’s economy was based on SLAVERY.
        These slaves were taken mostly from Europe and China.

        That is your legacy, how does it taste?

      • JustSomeone

        The first crusade was in 1095. The Ottoman Empire was created in 1299.

        Hmmmm.

      • TheEquilizer2U

        The first invasions from muslims and african warlords began around 500AD.
        They invaded both Europe and China, taking slaves and stealing technology.

        I guess you dont know squat about history, except the part you agree with.

      • JustSomeone

        Just because Muslims and African warlords did something in 500 AD doesn’t mean it was the Ottoman Empire. It was just a bunch of people invading another country. By your logic, the Crusades have been around even longer than what I said in my previous statement. I guess you just want to re-write history so that it fits your narrow belief.

      • TheEquilizer2U

        Oh so now its just a “bunch of people”
        Just like the beheading in OK was just “work place violence”

        LOL… you liberals truly are disgusting

      • JustSomeone

        I feel sorry for you. Truly I do.

        Yes, I called it a ‘bunch of people’ because you wanted them portrayed as the evil Ottoman Empire, which, clearly they were not. If you know what they called themselves in 500 AD, please enlighten me.

        You want to say Liberals (implying me only because I differ with your opinion which obviously means I must be a Liberal, your reasoning skills are mind-blowing by the way) are disgusting because we use facts to prove your “facts” to be slightly off the truth, and then you bring up a totally unrelated subject to prove what point? Like I have said before, read more about history by a variety of authors, not just those that say what you want to hear. Or, just use your favorite search engine to do a basic search for something you’d like to learn more about. The internet has many resources that you could benefit from in case you don’t have time to drive to your local library or bookstore. You may want to look up the definition of a Liberal while you are at it. I really doubt that it means what you think it does.

      • Fabj

        He used a conservative AM radio talking point to counter your history of 500AD. That screams what kind of dude he is. He probably has a pic of Reagan and white Jesus shaking hands on the Berlin Wall.

      • Guest

        See, EXACTLY. Someone threw a fact at you and your altered the discussion to fit your current political ideology. Totally different topic with a different argument,.

        In two sentences you have proven yourself to be a B*llsh*tter. You are a fake patriot and a follower of ignorance. Shut your mouth and stand aside. we have work to do. You are simply in the way. You conservatives need better acting skills. This is why you keep getting your ass handed to you by the liberal media. Liberal media meaning ALL media. AKA Facts, science, logic, and human equality. You have been replaced. Bye 🙂

      • TheEquilizer2U

        The liberal media is a joke
        You wouldn’t understand logic and reason if it hit you on the face

      • TheEquilizer2U

        Still waiting on those “facts”…..

      • gian keys LOVES shemale porn

        would those include those “documented facts” U use to inform us that muslims invaded before there was an actual ISLAM?
        those facts???
        maybe the “FACTS” that Obama is born on mars and wants to make us a commie nation?

      • Fabj

        See, EXACTLY. Someone threw a fact at you and you altered the discussion to fit your current political ideology. Totally different topic with a different argument,.

        In two sentences you have proven yourself to be a B*llsh*tter. You are a fake patriot and a follower of
        ignorance. Shut your mouth and stand aside. we have work to do. You are simply in the way. You conservatives need better acting skills. This is why you keep getting your ass handed to you by the liberal media. Liberal media meaning ALL media. AKA Facts, science, logic, and human equality.

      • TheEquilizer2U

        Why you call it for what it is?
        Are you afraid they might riot?

        It’s not workplace violence, it was a beheading by a muslim extremist.
        Only a fool would say otherwise.

      • gian keys LOVES shemale porn

        did U get the Benghazi Tshirt we sent U??
        ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,and : ‘birth certificate” photo frame?

      • gian keys LOVES shemale porn

        how about the scumbag Christians destroying the south American empires????? they didn’t just say ” shoo”…………. they tortured and raped and plundered…..
        PRAISE JEEEESUS
        ===================================
        bottom line?? U lose— ur history sucks ( and it totototally wrong) and liberals are tired of white trash regressive scumbags sucking the flaccid tete of a religion based upon a useless book and a dead jewish gay carpenter fisherman
        =========================================
        enjoy the atrophying of your dying whig party

      • TheEquilizer2U

        Sorry racist, you cant rewrite history.

        The middle east started slavery and war, and they are still doing it today.
        Innocent children rape and slaughtered by you.

        You are disgusting

      • gian keys LOVES shemale porn

        slavery is considered to be acceptable in that useless sh*tbag book ” BIBLE” long before chist; long long b4 muslims,,,long long long before ottoman empire
        I dont slaughter anyone except you here on these blogs,,,,,,,,,,,,, and its easier than slaughtering a worm
        =======================================
        ” the middle east started slavery and war”
        U really are priceless

      • TheEquilizer2U

        And now your defending slavery

        Yup, you got it bad

      • gian keys LOVES shemale porn

        bible ( and saint paul) defend slavery
        ================================
        im agnostic ( not atheist) and I mock the total fallacies and contradictions in the bible
        ===========================================
        looks like you “win” again

      • TheEquilizer2U

        The quran defends slavery and killing of infidels

      • gian keys LOVES shemale porn

        no one argues this– but u still have shown NO PROOF of ANYONE here or on a liberal medium defending beheadings. U lose again and again

      • Dave Taylor

        Islam wasn’t around until the 7th century

      • TheEquilizer2U

        tell that too the moors
        the facts are facts, the invasions started around 500AD

      • gian keys LOVES shemale porn

        “to” the moors,,,,,,,,,………not “TOO”
        you lose again

      • TheEquilizer2U

        Moors, muslims, islamists, afrian warlords…. they all invaded Europe

        When will this be taught in schools?

      • gian keys LOVES shemale porn

        funny,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,I learned about it in the schools I attended and I haven’t been in school in decades
        ========================================================
        you must have attended some pretty porous “schools” in the regressive state U lived in

      • Avatar

        My classmates and I learned that in middle school. Oh man.

      • TheEquilizer2U

        Funny how most people claim to have no idea
        Maybe they are lying?

      • TheEquilizer2U

        More lies to cover up your bloody history.
        The Barbary pirates were AFRICANS
        They took slaves from europe for centuries.

        “White Slaves, African Masters
        Reviews
        have praised White Slaves, African Masters: An Anthology of American
        Barbary Captivity Narratives, a book that has revealed the slavery of
        North American colonists by Barbary privateers.

        “Some of the most popular stories in
        nineteenth-century America were sensational tales of whites captured and
        enslaved in North Africa. White Slaves, African Masters for the
        first time gathers together a selection of these Barbary captivity
        narratives, which significantly influenced early American attitudes
        toward race, slavery, and nationalism.

        Though Barbary privateers began to seize North American colonists as
        early as 1625, Barbary captivity narratives did not begin to flourish
        until after the American Revolution. During these years, stories of
        Barbary captivity forced the U.S. government to pay humiliating tributes
        to African rulers, stimulated the drive to create the U.S. Navy, and
        brought on America’s first post-revolutionary war. These tales also were
        used both to justify and to vilify slavery.”[57]

        You lose libtard

      • Avatar

        ‘Libtard’? Since you’re using that vernacular and believe you’re winning the argument.

        If you read history closely enough, the first documented pirate was a Greeks’ Phoenicians. The English “pirate” is derived from the Latin term pirata and that from Greek “πειρατής” (peiratēs). Duh.

      • TheEquilizer2U

        You see, you just cant bring yourself to admit it.
        Defending african invaders and slamming everyone else.

        You are so pathetic….lol

      • Avatar

        Evidently you were home schooled by very stubborn religious parents.

      • TheEquilizer2U

        Too afraid to look it up?

      • RLHHoof

        Not the Ottomans you idiot! AND defiantly NOT the crusades!!

      • TheEquilizer2U

        All the same people, all from the same area.
        Starting from 500AD thru 1918.
        During all that time, middle easterners and africans have waged war and took slaves from Europe and Asia.

        Trying to split hairs on this only makes you look desperate
        And stupid

      • RLHHoof

        Do you even know who the Ottomans were? Man, you are coming up with crap not founded on any actual historical facts. Even the Catholic Church acknowledges that Pope Urban started the Crusades. So, I am very interested in where you got your information. Calling me stupid and desperate only weakens your case, and makes you look even less educated!

      • TheEquilizer2U

        Still trying to split hairs?
        The Ottomans were muslim, if you dont know that, then you are a complete and utter TROLL

      • RLHHoof

        Easy now, you are losing it! More name calling? Seriously?!? You can call me all the names in you very limited vocabulary and it still won’t make you right. All I was doing was responding to you “obviously” erroneous statement that Moslems started the Crusades. Then you totally went off with all of this other B.S. about the Ottomans starting the Crusades by attacking Europe. I just asked for some of your sources, because they are WRONG!

      • TheEquilizer2U

        Well you keep lying, what did you expect?
        The facts are all there, refuting them only makes you look stupid

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        And liberals always say hating is bad, but look at you go!

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        ======================================
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      • TheEquilizer2U

        So much hatred….LOL

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      • gian keys LOVES shemale porn

        hey gerbil droppings,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
        muslim BEFORE islam? that’s as magnificent as telling the (LIE) story how NOAH got all those critters on his boat ( from Australia? from antartica? from south America??? from Alaska?)
        ========================================
        and—–how the HELL did NOAH get them all BACK again??? renting out his ark???
        you lose again !!!

      • Ryan

        Even if everything you say is true, those acts by the Muslims and Africans are just as bad as European Christians who in later centuries took slaves when they colonized Africa and the Americas.

      • TheEquilizer2U

        The only difference would be they have been doing it for centuries, longer than anyone else.
        They were also the first invaders

        When will this be taught in schools?

      • doctor_robot

        wow… where are you getting this, some christian news blog?

      • TheEquilizer2U

        All documented facts anyone can look up

        Kinda makes you look like an idiot doesnt it?

      • RLHHoof

        Where are these “supposed” facts of yours. I can state sources all day long, but you will actually have to learn to read first.

      • TheEquilizer2U

        I already told you.
        The journey is on you, I will not do your homework.

      • RLHHoof

        Again with the the evasions! I see now that you have NO sources and just make up shit! You poor uneducated fool. Go home and keep your mouth shut, you have only proven what a fool you are.

      • TheEquilizer2U

        I gave you the facts, look them up before refuting them.
        Thats how it work libtard

      • gian keys LOVES shemale porn

        and,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,after we ( actually I) refute them – easily I may add– U vanish as do all the regressive crybaby white trash rightwing zealots who are paid to come one these blobs and stir up stuff.
        ======================================
        you— oh so easily– lose

      • TheEquilizer2U

        Now the insults are really ramping up….lol

      • gian keys LOVES shemale porn

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      • TheEquilizer2U

        Because insults is all you have
        So where in the middle east did you immigrate from?

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      • Cemetery Girl

        It is pretty standard to be expected to site your sources when trying to persuade using facts. Publish a family tree, it won’t be trusted without resources, specific resources that can be followed to reach the same conclusion. Try turning in a research paper in college (or high school, or even middle school) and not give a single source. It won’t be accepted because the facts cannot be verified. This is just a given.

      • TheEquilizer2U

        then site yours

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      • TheEquilizer2U

        And still with the insults

        I thought liberals were better than that?

      • gian keys LOVES shemale porn

        well- when U DEMAND we liberals give U FACTS– as I have VIA encyclopedia.”com” and encyclopedia Britannica ( 15the edition) — and U do NOT reply,,,,,
        U leave thyself wide open to aspersions which U readily deserve as U hav already insulted many others on this blog-
        *****************************************************
        do U need a napkin with the meal I just served you?

      • TheEquilizer2U

        I still havent seen anything from you yet

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      • Cemetery Girl

        You want sources on examples of requirements to provide sources???

      • TheEquilizer2U

        Prove everything you said and I’ll do the same

      • Cemetery Girl

        You want sources showing why when stating a fact in academia and genealogy you give sources. Seriously? Do you grasp how absurd you sound?

      • TheEquilizer2U

        No, thats not how its done
        First you need to educate yourself
        Dont expect me to do it for you

      • Cemetery Girl

        “Successful College Writing with 2009 MLA and 2010 APA Updates” by Kathleen McWhorter

      • TheEquilizer2U

        Your grammar means nothing when you cant understand the facts.
        poor little libtard…lol

      • Cemetery Girl

        It is explains siting sources. A concept that is taught to children in elementary school. Best of luck with your developmental delays.

      • TheEquilizer2U

        I will not do your homework.
        If you cant be bothered to do a 5 sec google search, then I’m not going to waste time educating you.

      • Cemetery Girl

        You don’t understand “source”, do you? A book that explains siting sources would be a source for siting sources. Since you obviously do not read, pay any attention, or put any effort this… “In West Philedelphia, born and raised, on a playground’s where I spent most of my days; I got into one little fight and my mom got scared….”

      • TheEquilizer2U

        I wont play your game little girl

      • gian keys LOVES shemale porn

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        ,,,,,,,,,,,he looked up BENGHAZI and Obama being born in Zanzibar/ mars and the facts that obamas deficits are highest ever and the facts that democrats hate Christmas and the fact that GW bush policies were PROVEN 2 B great for America??
        see? it easy to show how regressive white trash republican scum is so factual!!

      • gian keys LOVES shemale porn

        hey shitbag,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,since mohammed wasn’t BORN until (c) 570 and he probably didn’t do much teaching/preaching until he was an adult…..
        U wanna look even MORE regressive and tell me how MUSLIM/MOSLEMs were invading BEFORE islam was created????
        bottom line? CHRISTIANITY is –thru history— as despicable as all religions when it factors in the death and controlling it used to propagate its superstition throughout the world.
        JEEEEEEESUS aint god

      • TheEquilizer2U

        aww look at the racist hurl insults….LOL

      • gian keys LOVES shemale porn

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        ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, U lose again

      • TheMayor

        you are a bold face fucking liar. Africans never invaded any countries and enslave them. the Arabs invaded Africa and took themselves as Europeans and Americans did. Africans never had the capability nor the desire to invade China

      • TheEquilizer2U

        More lies to cover up your bloody history.
        The Barbary pirates were AFRICANS
        They took slaves from europe for centuries.

        “White Slaves, African Masters
        Reviews have praised White Slaves, African Masters: An Anthology of American Barbary Captivity Narratives, a book that has revealed the slavery of North American colonists by Barbary privateers.

        “Some of the most popular stories in
        nineteenth-century America were sensational tales of whites captured and
        enslaved in North Africa. White Slaves, African Masters for the
        first time gathers together a selection of these Barbary captivity
        narratives, which significantly influenced early American attitudes
        toward race, slavery, and nationalism.

        Though Barbary privateers began to seize North American colonists as
        early as 1625, Barbary captivity narratives did not begin to flourish
        until after the American Revolution. During these years, stories of
        Barbary captivity forced the U.S. government to pay humiliating tributes
        to African rulers, stimulated the drive to create the U.S. Navy, and
        brought on America’s first post-revolutionary war. These tales also were
        used both to justify and to vilify slavery.”[57]

        You lose libtard

      • TheMayor

        You are a bold face fucking liar. Africans never invaded any countries
        and enslave them. the Arabs invaded Africa and took them as slaves like the
        Europeans and Americans did. Africans never had the capability nor the
        desire to invade China. They had no weapons of mass destruction, no.means of transporting armies far and wide. They had no means to conquer people nor did they have the desire. LIAR LIAR!

      • TheEquilizer2U

        You are a bold face lying scumbag
        The invaders werent called muslim till around 600AD.
        Before that they were called moors, and they started the invasions when rome was in decline, starting at 500 AD.
        By 700 AD, they were called muslims and they went into Spain (Hispania)
        Heres a clip from wiki:
        “The Muslim conquest of Hispania began when the Moors (mostly Berbers with some Arabs) invaded the Christian Visigothic kingdom of Iberia in the year 711, under their Berber leader Tariq ibn Ziyad. They landed at Gibraltar on 30 April and worked their way northward. Tariq’s forces were joined the next year by those of his superior, Musa ibn Nusair. During the eight-year campaign most of the Iberian Peninsula was brought under Muslim rule — save for small areas in the northwest (Asturias) and largely Basque regions in the Pyrenees. This territory, under the Arab name Al-Andalus, became part of the expanding Umayyad empire.”

        You are the true invaders, you are the first slaverys, you taught the whole world war and bloodshed.
        That is your legacy.
        You are a disgusting animal.

      • gian keys LOVES shemale porn

        ottoman empire started circa 1453-55: nearing the end of final ( 1492) crusade
        ——————————————————————- that’s what phillip said; ergo he is correct
        U spun away – mentioning slavery.
        hence: he is correct————–
        ———U are IN correct
        ********************************************
        you lose

      • TheEquilizer2U

        Your dates are completely wrong…lol
        You lose

      • gian keys LOVES shemale porn

        wrong answer–
        encyclopedia britannica 15th edition ( 32 books 2010 last printed edition) says U are incorrect
        =========================================
        encyclopedia . com says ottoman ’empire’ loosely emerged around 1334. — 1463 venice declared war. 1479 venice — getting its ass kicked– wanted peace and ceded Shkoder — the same year ottomans occupied 3 territories as they captured otranto (1480) on italian mainland.
        encyclopedia .com also says crusades started in 11the century( 1095-99)
        =================================
        sources and dates usurp your infantile regressive white trash cryings– PRAISE JEEEESUS!!!
        and your ” source” is,,,,,,?

      • TheEquilizer2U

        How neat, you completlely left out the time between 500AD and then….LOL

      • gian keys LOVES shemale porn

        I replied to your ersatz “facts” regarding the Christian Crusades and the ottoman empire ( chronologies) I didn’t need to mention a 3rd time frame.
        -care to argue with my encyclopedia Britannica facts ? U just got crushed by the reality of education corroborated by an impeccable source.
        500 AD cannot have MUSLIMS or OTTOMANS as they didnt exist then.

      • TheEquilizer2U

        You refuse to admit they were the same people, from the area.
        how pathetic are you?

      • gian keys LOVES shemale porn

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      • Avatar

        *face palm*

      • TheEquilizer2U

        And again, you obviously have not did a single search
        You close your eyes and pretend I’m wrong
        You are a coward

      • Cat Marcuri

        As a historian, I would like to point out that you’re an idiot. The Crusades were NOT caused by “muslim invasions of Europe”. They were caused by severe overpopulation and a plea from Constantinople for assistance. I would also point out that very FEW of those Crusades actually went to Constantinople. But since it did get these bored fighters out of Europe, ostensibly on God’s behalf, no one complained. Other than the rules of Constantinople, of course.

      • TheEquilizer2U

        As a historian, you are completely wrong.

        The muslim invaders were pushed all the way back to their homelands.
        They invaded Europe in the name of alah

        It took many decades for the Crusades to get started.

      • Fabj

        Now you’re just lying.

      • TheEquilizer2U

        All documented facts anyone can look up

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      • TheEquilizer2U

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        Youre a real piece of work

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      • TheEquilizer2U

        Do you beat your kids?

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      • TVG

        Before the obvious lying, you could possibly attribute their absurdities to utter stupidity.

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        ==========================
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        ==========================
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      • TheEquilizer2U

        And now destroying people.

        I’ll bet youre a serial killer

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      • TheEquilizer2U

        Heartless as a liberal

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      • RLHHoof

        You are an idiot!! The Crusades were concocted by the Roman Catholic Church to take back the Holy Lands. Pope Urban 1095. Check your facts!! Maybe YOU should take a history class…. not one taught by correspondence via Fox News!!

      • TheEquilizer2U

        Looks like I struck a nerve.
        I knew you liberals hated facts, especially when they dispute you, but your out of control boy.

        Go read an actual history book and stop listening to that liberal teacher of yours, they know nothing.

      • JustSomeone

        Once again, it is you’re, not your. You’re is the contraction of you are, whereas your implies possession.

        So far the only one who can’t back up their facts is you.

      • TheEquilizer2U

        Still havent seen you produce a single fact

      • JustSomeone

        It isn’t my fault you close your eyes and refuse to see the facts that have been mentioned to you. Just because you choose to overlook what people say to you, doesn’t mean they never said it.

        Go back through the discussion and read what was said. I’m not you mother who will do your homework for you.

      • TheEquilizer2U

        That is exactly what your doing, closing your eyes like a child

        You refuse to do any research because you know Im right.
        Now your just desperate

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        we did —

        1095 1st crusade pope URBAN (2) wanted the holy lands around Jerusalem 2 have access to “Christians”

        =================================

        albigensian crusade 1209-

        aragonese crusade 1284-

        Reconquista crusade ( ended 1492)

        northern crusades 1193-

        ….all ^^^ 4 above were PAPAL sanctioned for a variety of economic and political ( religious) reasons.

        >the so-called MUSLIM conquests stated in the 7th century<

        *****************************************************

        historians state that between 1096 and 1291 there were SEVEN major crusades and a few minor ones.

        Seems to me u just got you ass kicked here my EASY2 read– and certifiable– FACTS ( see: F.A.C.T.S.)

        !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

        U bitched to many others about NOT backing up "FACTS"……….. so I will ask:
        would U like your ample helping of CROW served hot,,,,or cold?
        YOU LOSE————-

      • Charles Vincent

        The Timeline

        630 Two years before Muhammad’s death of a fever, he launches the Tabuk Crusades,
        in which he led 30,000 jihadists against the Byzantine Christians. He had heard a report
        that a huge army had amassed to attack Arabia, but the report turned out to be a false
        rumor. The Byzantine army never materialized. He turned around and went home, but not
        before extracting “agreements” from northern tribes. They could enjoy the
        “privilege” of living under Islamic “protection” (read: not be
        attacked by Islam), if they paid a tax.

        This tax sets the stage for Muhammad’s and the later Caliphs’ policies. If
        the attacked city or region did not want to convert to Islam, then they paid a jizya
        tax. If they converted, then they paid a zakat tax. Either way, money flowed back
        to the Islamic treasury in Arabia or to the local Muslim governor.

        632-634 Under the Caliphate of Abu Bakr the Muslim Crusaders reconquer and sometimes
        conquer for the first time the polytheists of Arabia. These Arab polytheists had to
        convert to Islam or die. They did not have the choice of remaining in their faith and
        paying a tax. Islam does not allow for religious freedom.

        633 The Muslim Crusaders, led by Khalid al-Walid, a superior but bloodthirsty military
        commander, whom Muhammad nicknamed the Sword of Allah for his ferocity in battle (Tabari,
        8:158 / 1616-17), conquer the city of Ullays along the Euphrates River (in today’s
        Iraq). Khalid captures and beheads so many that a nearby canal, into which the blood
        flowed, was called Blood Canal (Tabari 11:24 / 2034-35).

        634 At the Battle of Yarmuk in Syria the Muslim Crusaders defeat the Byzantines. Today
        Osama bin Laden draws inspiration from the defeat, and especially from an anecdote about
        Khalid al-Walid. In Khalid’s day an unnamed Muslim remarks: “The Romans are so
        numerous and the Muslims so few.” To this Khalid retorts: “How few are the
        Romans, and how many the Muslims! Armies become numerous only with victory and few only
        with defeat, not by the number of men. By God, I would love it . . . if the enemy were
        twice as many” (Tabari, 11:94 / 2095). Osama bin Laden
        quotes
        Khalid and says that his fighters love death more than we in the West love life. This
        philosophy of death probably comes from a verse like Sura 2:96. Muhammad assesses the
        Jews: “[Prophet], you are sure to find them [the Jews] clinging to life more eagerly
        than any other people, even polytheists” (MAS Abdel Haleem, The Qur’an,
        Oxford UP, 2004; first insertion in brackets is Haleem’s; the second mine).

        634-644 The Caliphate of Umar ibn al-Khattab, who is regarded as particularly brutal.

        635 Muslim Crusaders besiege and conquer of Damascus.

        636 Muslim Crusaders defeat Byzantines decisively at Battle of Yarmuk.

        637 Muslim Crusaders conquer Iraq at the Battle of al-Qadisiyyah (some date it in 635 or 636).

        638 Muslim Crusaders conquer and annex Jerusalem, taking it from the Byzantines.

        638-650 Muslim Crusaders conquer Iran, except along Caspian Sea.

        639-642 Muslim Crusaders conquer Egypt.

        641 Muslim Crusaders control Syria and Palestine.

        643-707 Muslim Crusaders conquer North Africa.

        644 Caliph Umar is assassinated by a Persian prisoner of war; Uthman ibn Affan is
        elected third Caliph, who is regarded by many Muslims as gentler than Umar.

        644-650 Muslim Crusaders conquer Cyprus, Tripoli in North Africa, and establish Islamic
        rule in Iran, Afghanistan, and Sind.

        656 Caliph Uthman is assassinated by disgruntled Muslim soldiers; Ali ibn Abi Talib,
        son-in-law and cousin to Muhammad, who married the prophet’s daughter Fatima through
        his first wife Khadija, is set up as Caliph.

        656 Battle of the Camel, in which Aisha, Muhammad’s wife, leads a rebellion
        against Ali for not avenging Uthman’s assassination. Ali’s partisans win.

        657 Battle of Siffin between Ali and Muslim governor of Jerusalem, arbitration goes
        against Ali

        661 Murder of Ali by an extremist; Ali’s supporters acclaim his son Hasan as next
        Caliph, but he comes to an agreement with Muawiyyah I and retires to Medina.

        661-680 the Caliphate of Muawiyyah I. He founds Umayyid dynasty and moves capital from
        Medina to Damascus

        673-678 Arabs besiege Constantinople, capital of Byzantine Empire

        680 Massacre of Hussein (Muhammad’s grandson), his family, and his supporters in
        Karbala, Iraq.

        691 Dome of the Rock is completed in Jerusalem, only six decades after
        Muhammad’s death.

        705 Abd al-Malik restores Umayyad rule.

        710-713 Muslim Crusaders conquer the lower Indus Valley.

        711-713 Muslim Crusaders conquer Spain and impose the kingdom of Andalus.
        This article
        recounts how Muslims today still grieve over their expulsion 700 years later. They seem to
        believe that the land belonged to them in the first place.

        719 Cordova, Spain, becomes seat of Arab governorship.

        732 The Muslim Crusaders are stopped at the Battle of Poitiers; that is, Franks (France) halt Arab advance.

        749 The Abbasids conquer Kufah and overthrow Umayyids.

        756 Foundation of Umayyid emirate in Cordova, Spain, setting up an independent kingdom from Abbasids.

        762 Foundation of Baghdad

        785 Foundation of the Great Mosque of Cordova

        789 Rise of Idrisid emirs (Muslim Crusaders) in Morocco; foundation of Fez;
        Christoforos, a Muslim who converted to Christianity, is executed.

        800 Autonomous Aghlabid dynasty (Muslim Crusaders) in Tunisia.

        807 Caliph Harun al-Rashid orders the destruction of non-Muslim prayer houses
        and of the Church of Mary Magdalene in Jerusalem.

        809 Aghlabids (Muslim Crusaders) conquer Sardinia, Italy.

        813 Christians in Palestine are attacked; many flee the country.

        831 Muslim Crusaders capture of Palermo, Italy; raids in Southern Italy.

        850 Caliph al-Matawakkil orders the destruction of non-Muslim houses of prayer.

        855 Revolt of the Christians of Hims (Syria)

        837-901 Aghlabids (Muslim Crusaders) conquer Sicily, raid Corsica, Italy, France.

        869-883 Revolt of black slaves in Iraq

        909 Rise of the Fatimid Caliphate in Tunisia; these Muslim Crusaders occupy Sicily,
        Sardinia.

        928-969 Byzantine military revival, they retake old territories, such as Cyprus (964)
        and Tarsus (969).

        937 The Ikhshid, a particularly harsh Muslim ruler, writes to Emperor Romanus, boasting
        of his control over the holy places.

        937 The Church of the Resurrection (known as Church of Holy Sepulcher in Latin West) is
        burned down by Muslims; more churches in Jerusalem are attacked .

        960 Conversion of Qarakhanid Turks to Islam

        966 Anti-Christian riots in Jerusalem

        969 Fatimids (Muslim Crusaders) conquer Egypt and found Cairo.

        c. 970 Seljuks enter conquered Islamic territories from the East.

        973 Israel and southern Syria are again conquered by the Fatimids.

        1003 First persecutions by al-Hakim; the Church of St. Mark in Fustat, Egypt, is destroyed.

        1009 Destruction of the Church of the Resurrection by al-Hakim (see 937)

        1012 Beginning of al-Hakim’s oppressive decrees against Jews and Christians

        1015 Earthquake in Palestine; the dome of the Dome of the Rock collapses.

        1031 Collapse of Umayyid Caliphate and establishment of 15 minor independent dynasties
        throughout Muslim Andalus

        1048 Reconstruction of the Church of the Resurrection completed

        1050 Creation of Almoravid (Muslim Crusaders) movement in Mauretania; Almoravids (also
        known as Murabitun) are coalition of western Saharan Berbers; followers of Islam, focusing
        on the Quran, the hadith, and Maliki law.

        1055 Seljuk Prince Tughrul enters Baghdad, consolidation of the Seljuk Sultanate.

        1055 Confiscation of property of Church of the Resurrection

        1071 Battle of Manzikert, Seljuk Turks (Muslim Crusaders) defeat Byzantines and occupy
        much of Anatolia.

        1071 Turks (Muslim Crusaders) invade Palestine.

        1073 Conquest of Jerusalem by Turks (Muslim Crusaders)

        1075 Seljuks (Muslim Crusaders) capture Nicea (Iznik) and make it their capital in Anatolia.

        1076 Almoravids (Muslim Crusaders) (see 1050) conquer western Ghana.

        1085 Toledo is taken back by Christian armies.

        1086 Almoravids (Muslim Crusaders) (see 1050) send help to Andalus, Battle of Zallaca.

        1090-1091 Almoravids (Muslim Crusaders) occupy all of Andalus except Saragossa and
        Balearic Islands.

        1094 Byzantine Emperor Alexius Comnenus I asks western Christendom for help against
        Seljuk invasions of his territory; Seljuks are Muslim Turkish family of eastern origins;
        see 970.

        1095 Pope Urban II preaches first Crusade; they capture Jerusalem in 1099

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      • Charles Vincent

        Nope you’re the one arguing about when the Muslim crusades started. I provided the actual dates for you, he is correct in that they started around 500 although not totally accurate in his stated time he is correct they started before the christian crusades.

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        try 2 stay on target! we are discussing the PAPAL crusades,,,,,,,,,,,,,, initiated by POPE URBAN 2nd by his ‘famous’ sermon at council of clermont in 1095.
        —————————————————————
        wanna double down on you looking rather stupid here?

      • Charles Vincent

        Apologies for length
        full article found here;
        http://answering-islam DOT org/Authors/Arlandson/crusades_timeline DOT htm

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      • Charles Vincent

        Who writes it is irrelevant, any academic institution will have the same information. You can dismiss it all you want, it only shows you as being willfully ignorant. That is your problem not mine. the fact is the other gut is more correct than you. And you only tried to spin the information to make your argument look better than it actually is.

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        wrong again charles; on TWO historical mistakes by he ( and You)
        (a) he said islam *(etc) started around 500 ad — with muhammed not being born until (c) 570 that proves impossible.
        (b) he said crusades ( christian) started WELL before 1095 ( err)
        (c) he claimed the ottoman empire was formed around 550 ad
        ,,,,,,it was LOOSELY formed around 1330 ad; reaching regional status in 1450
        (d) his assertion that muslim ‘crusades’ (invasions) has a bit of merit; but not the sole reasons for the CRUSADES wcih are most well known in history
        ==================================
        thats not spin chuckie– thats facts from encyclopedia . com and the ”encylopedia britannica”
        ===============================
        you dont really sound very bright or well informed here chuckles

      • Charles Vincent

        “would those include those “documented facts” U use to inform us
        that muslims invaded before there was an actual ISLAM?”

        You stated the above in a post to equalizer.

        he ball parked a number one a whole 400 years closer than the one you argued.

        “(a) he said islam *(etc) started around 500 ad — with muhammed not being born until (c) 570 that proves impossible.”

        As stated above he ball parked the number, your argument is semantic, and irrelevant.

        “(b) he said crusades ( christian) started WELL before 1095 ( err)”

        No he stated the Muslim crusades started before the christian crusades learn to read.

        “(c) he claimed the ottoman empire was formed around 550 ad,,,,,,it was LOOSELY formed around 1330 ad; reaching regional status in 1450”

        I didnt see anywhere equalizer stated that post his comment as what i have seen it was the poster justsomeone who started talking about the ottoman empire.

        “(d) his assertion that muslim ‘crusades’ (invasions) has a bit of merit; but not the sole reasons for the CRUSADES wcih are most well known in history”

        Equalizer was talking about the Muslim invasions go back and read all his replies he ball parked the date big whoopie shit he missed it by 70-130 years. Like I said semantics and irrelevant. those invasions started in 630 after Muhammad founded Islam and were consequently 2 years before he died.

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      • Charles Vincent

        His OPs

        TheEquilizer2U > Philip Neumann • 2 days ago

        No, the muslim invasions into Europe
        caused the Crusades.

        Try reading a book, this is all documented FACT.

        The Ottoman Empire (muslims and african warlords) also invaded other lands, like China and Europe. They took slaves from europe all the way up until 1918, but were finally stopped.

        Keep in mind the muslims took Constantinople(Now Istanbul) in “673-678 Arabs besiege Constantinople, capital of Byzantine Empire”

        “Slavery in the Ottoman Empire was a legal and important part of the Ottoman Empire’s economy and society[1] until the slavery of peoples of the Caucasus was banned in the early 19th century, although slaves from other groups were allowed.[2] In Constantinople
        (present-day Istanbul), the administrative and political center of the Empire, about a fifth of the
        population consisted of slaves in 1609.[3] Even after several measures to ban slavery in the late 19th century, the practice continued largely unfazed into the early 20th century. As late as 1908, female slaves were still sold in the Ottoman Empire.[4] Sexual
        slavery was a central part of the Ottoman slave system throughout the history of the institution.[5][6]”

        TheEquilizer2U > JustSomeone • 2 days ago

        The first invasions from muslims and
        african warlords began around 500AD.

        They invaded both Europe and China, taking slaves and stealing technology.

        http://www DOT allaboutturkey DOT com/img/ottoman-empire-1580 DOT gif

        What would later become the Ottoman empire was Turkey, Egypt, Iraq, Tripoli, part of hungary Poland Georgia and Arabia so his assessment thaty the people that would later make up the Ottoman empire
        is correct.

      • Charles Vincent

        I posted the link where I came by the information for context.

      • Fabj

        Dude, if you are going to pretend only one religion causes death and destruction than you have no place debating anyone. Also, stop altering facts and history just find an excuse to have issues with non whites. It’s people like who are convinced the son of god looks like the singer for Three Dog Night even though that area of the planet never saw a white person for a few more centuries.

      • TheEquilizer2U

        I’m not the one pretending only one religion is responsible, it’s you defending islam.

      • Ryan

        Hey, there’s the right answer! Violence is just a human activity, humans do a lot of it you know.

        But….I call bullshit. Only now you say you’re not pretending that one religion is responsible for death when this whole thread started by you saying (in response to someone talking about religious-based violence) “you’re talking about Islam, right?” No Equalizer, I don’t think any of these people are promoting the agenda that solely Christianity is responsible for all religious violence. Violence is violence and it can happen under any religion, under any political system, under any social construct, because this is the “real world” and not some utopia. I like to think with recent advances in human thought, we are getting closer to what we could call a utopia, though.

      • TheEquilizer2U

        The bullshit is your own

        See how you keep defending islam and slamming christians.
        You are a sicko

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        ===============================
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      • Ryan

        Astounding. That was an incredible way to twist my words.

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      • TVG

        It was under Roman domination, so it likely saw all kinds of white people, considering the makeup of the legions and auxilliaries. Roman Britain had people originally from Syria, so the other direction is no stretch at all.

      • Ryan

        What about the hundred years war?

      • TheEquilizer2U

        What about the invasion of Spain?

      • Avatar

        Read the non revisioned history books again for your own literacy sake.

      • TheEquilizer2U

        Try reading the non-liberal biased history books

      • Avatar

        Like Christian’s version of history? No thanks.

      • TheEquilizer2U

        Here’s some more truth for you.

        “White Slaves, African Masters
        Reviews
        have praised White Slaves, African Masters: An Anthology of American
        Barbary Captivity Narratives, a book that has revealed the slavery of
        North American colonists by Barbary privateers.

        “Some of the most popular stories in
        nineteenth-century America were sensational tales of whites captured and
        enslaved in North Africa. White Slaves, African Masters for the
        first time gathers together a selection of these Barbary captivity
        narratives, which significantly influenced early American attitudes
        toward race, slavery, and nationalism.

        Though Barbary privateers began to seize North American colonists as
        early as 1625, Barbary captivity narratives did not begin to flourish
        until after the American Revolution. During these years, stories of
        Barbary captivity forced the U.S. government to pay humiliating tributes
        to African rulers, stimulated the drive to create the U.S. Navy, and
        brought on America’s first post-revolutionary war. These tales also were
        used both to justify and to vilify slavery.”[57]

        Didn’t you libtards say africans never invaded europe….LOL

      • It’s spelled “you’re,” you fucking redneck

      • TheEquilizer2U

        Right on que, when faced with facts, you liberals always start with the grammar and insults.

        Way to go……

      • Pipercat

        It’s cue..

      • TheEquilizer2U

        It’s short for “queue”

        Troll….

      • Pipercat

        Wrong application. Queue is holding and waiting. Cue, as in your application, is a trigger.

      • TheEquilizer2U

        Exactly, queue is my watching and waiting for you to pull the usual leftist playbook out.
        And you did, right on queue…

      • Pipercat

        Ever hear of that adage about doing the same thing over and over expecting a different result?

      • TheEquilizer2U

        Thats the liberal way
        Keep telling the lie until it becomes true….lol

      • Pipercat

        … and there’s the hat trick!

      • JustSomeone

        Pipercat, you have made my day. Thank you so so much.

      • Pipercat

        You’re welcome and I always have this stuff queued!

      • Fabj

        its cue. trollface

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      • Pipercat

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      • TheEquilizer2U

        Liberals are full of tricks, you cant be trusted

      • Pipercat

        Meanwhile Uncle Fred, a fastidious man, trims his beard 27 times a day…

      • TheEquilizer2U

        Sounds like he suffers from liberal disease

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      • TheEquilizer2U

        libs defeated in 2014

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      • TheEquilizer2U

        getting better everyday
        Liberals are losing America real fast….lol

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      • Fabj

        It’s called trickle down economics. Thanks for 2008 junior 🙂

      • TheEquilizer2U

        Or the liberals policy of giving away home loans to poor illegal immigrants.
        Causing the entire meltdown of our economy.

        Now your at it again, only now its car loans.
        When will you liberals learn?

      • People who tear apart grammar and spelling instead of taking on the points being made in the argument are one of my greatest pet peeves. With that said, you’re still using queue wrong. It is actually “right on cue”. If you were still waiting, you would be in queue.

        Anyway, on topic – I agree. Many, many atrocities have been carried out in the name of Islam. A disproportionate amount of atrocities actually. That doesn’t mean Islam has the market cornered on horrendous crimes in the name of a God. Most religious texts have the potential to be misinterpreted but that doesn’t just go for religion. Throughout history, many books, films etc have inspired acts of violence. It just seems that the religious spin makes it easier to sell that inspiration to greater numbers. For example, someone might watch Dexter or Natural Born Killers and be inspired to go on a killing spree. In that case though, the individual may be able to get one or two other people to get involved. It’s easier to sell the message of violence to a larger number of people if you attach a God to it. The violence then has a purpose and in their hearts, they can convince themselves they’re doing it for the greater good.

        I’m not saying all religion is evil, of course. Religion is a very powerful tool for good as well. It is just a tool that can be used for great evil in the wrong hands. It just so happens, that tends to be what gets talked about the most. I have Muslim friends who are amazingly giving, loving people. I have Christian friends who are amazingly giving, loving people. I have atheist friends who are… you get the point.

      • Cat Marcuri

        That was beautifully said! Thank you for saying it so clearly and succinctly! Sadly, I believe that your words will be lost on this guy. He’s just trying to troll for responses. And we all know, the first rule of the interwebs is not to feed the trolls.

      • I know, I know but sometimes I enjoy the back and forth with trolls. Sometimes, it even opens my eyes to a new perspective I hadn’t considered which is always nice. Sadly, this guy is a pretty terrible troll who’s just repeating the same thing over and over. Not worth the time which is sad because I think that one point is a good point. Too bad it seems to be the only point he has to make.

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      • RBI

        “I’d rather pretzel myself than ever admit I made a mistake! I refuse to admit I’m human!”

      • TheEquilizer2U

        Semantics, and I’m not worried about it

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      • TheEquilizer2U

        troll

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      • TheEquilizer2U

        That was your messy rag

      • You know, every single thing you’ve said can be summed up as:

        “I know you are, but what am I?”

        Seriously, don’t you have a job?

      • TheEquilizer2U

        Wrong again, that is the liberal way of doing things

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      • TheEquilizer2U

        English is not your first language is it?

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        ————————————————————-
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      • TheEquilizer2U

        Now youre a conspiracy theorist?

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        ——————————————————————–
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      • TheEquilizer2U

        What conspiracies you got next?

      • JustSomeone

        When faced with facts, you start with “Islam”. At least Philip had a factual point.

      • TheEquilizer2U

        He had no point, only the usual leftist talking points.
        Repeated over and over, without any actual knowledge.

        How pathetic

      • JustSomeone

        Nope. He had a point. It is spelled “you’re”. How is grammar a leftist talking point? Does that mean people on the right don’t care about grammar?

      • TheEquilizer2U

        Its what you liberals resort too when beat down with facts.

        Its really pathetic….

      • Jim Valley

        It has to do with being educated. If you can’t spell 5th-grade words, why should we listen to your opinion?

      • TheEquilizer2U

        You dont care about the opinions of non-liberals, hypocrite

      • Fabj

        No we don’t care about people who don’t know history and disregard facts. Or i should say modern day conservatism.

      • TheEquilizer2U

        Liberals desperatly want to rewrite history.
        White man bad, everyone else a victim, and therefore good.

        So pathetic….lol

      • Michael Drzyzga

        Speaking from my own experience and assuming similar logic likely applies to many liberals, it’s not that simple. Rather, note that most of the first world nations are dominantly white, and it’s reasonable to say that whites are the ones with the most power. And as Uncle Ben said, “With great power comes great responsibility.” Also, isn’t there a saying about history being written by the victors? Well, if whites have generally been the victors, then we’ve had the opportunity to write history in a more complimentary light. Is it rewriting history to question the biases in history as it’s typically taught?

        (NOTE: I am NOT going to comment on the Ottomon Empire thing, because I know very little about the crusades, and both sides of this argument are sounding more knowledgeable than me. So please, don’t apply the history comment to suggest such a big discrepancy isn’t rewriting history. My comment was meant to be more general).

      • TheEquilizer2U

        Well my boy, it took centuries to get that power.

        After we were invaded and enslaved for centuries.
        It’s obvious you dont give a damn about that.

        Sounds too me your just a sore loser

      • Michael Drzyzga

        What do you mean sore loser? I’m on the winning side! I just want to be sure we don’t abuse that. As you said – it took centuries to get that power, and we’ve had it for centuries more. What you’ve called hating white people/blaming them for all the problems, I call holding us to a higher standard. More power = more control, and therefore a greater share in how things turn out, for good or ill. People who share this viewpoint are more likely to call out problems when they see it. Critical is not the same thing as hatred. See “constructive criticism.” Can the presentation fail? Yes. Does everyone share this viewpoint? No. But you mistake aspiring for better (with probably too much emphasis on criticism than acknowledging progress already made) for disdain.

      • TheEquilizer2U

        Facts are facts, northern europeans were not the first invaders.
        It was us that got invaded for centuries, we were the last to colonize other lands.

        We won, and today’s society hates winners and love victims.
        You are a sore loser, because you see yourself as a victim.

      • Michael Drzyzga

        No, I see myself as a winner. I have been extraordinarily lucky. Struggling currently, but still lucky overall. I just think I should use my position responsibly and argue for others to do the same.

      • TheEquilizer2U

        If your a liberal, then you see yourself as a victim.
        Everyone knows that

      • Michael Drzyzga

        Sounds like you need to hear some advice I got from a conservative friend. “Go out and meet them in person.” Learn about them when you’re both, say, holding signs and trying to win people over to your side. Maybe it’s cold and rainy and you’re just trying to get through the day with a thermos of something hot. It’s a human moment. Because debating people online in the comments section? It gives you a very skewed perspective of the opposition. If you really believe that every liberal sees themself as a victim, than you haven’t met the right liberals.

      • TheEquilizer2U

        If liberals can make sweeping generalizations about non-liberals
        Then expect the same
        It’s amazing what hypocrites you liberals are.
        When will you practice what you preach??

      • Michael Drzyzga

        That’s a people thing, not a liberal vs non-liberal thing. I’ve been making efforts to do it less myself.

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      • TheEquilizer2U

        repeat yourself much?

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      • TheEquilizer2U

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      • Jim Valley

        It’s “don’t”. And you forgot the period. Poor writing indicates poor education, and thus an opinion not worth listening to.

      • TheEquilizer2U

        Liberals arent worth the trouble of using a comma

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      • TheEquilizer2U

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        How pathetic….

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      • TheEquilizer2U

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        Thats just one of your problems

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        Yes of course

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      • TheEquilizer2U

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        The invasions were first recorded around 500AD

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      • decreator

        You are obviously, clearly, and sadly, very very misinformed.mindbogglingly so..

      • TheEquilizer2U

        It’s the low info liberal that is clearly and so very sadly ignorant of the facts.
        Time and time again……

      • Fabj

        Your responses have dwindled into “liberals are bad”. That is called defeat. Hurts?

      • TheEquilizer2U

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        And you lefties eat it up

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        It rattles on and on just to hear itself speak, and makes no sense, just like Oy does.

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        See how immature you are….lol

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      • TheEquilizer2U

        What would a liberal know about reality?

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        asking that again proves how well-grounded U are

      • Chris

        But you have no facts and what you think is inaccurate and incorrect I don’t understand the point you’re trying to make here. Christianity and the violence surrounding it goes back way farther than the Ottoman Empire bro all you have to do is read the Bible. and as a man of Christian faith am ashamed to say that you believe in the same things that I believe him because I don’t believe that you do if you did you would be on here trying to push and love and understanding and salvation not hate and fear mongering. Christ never represented anything that you stand for. and yes Muslims murder and kill in the name of the same God that we claim to serve, they trace their lineage back to Abraham the same as we do. and yes you are completely wrong about your dates with the Crusades and the Ottoman Empire. #boom #trymeandillsmashyouwithscrpture

      • TheEquilizer2U

        All the same people, all from the same area.
        Starting from 500AD thru 1918.
        During all that time, middle easterners and africans have waged war and took slaves from Europe and Asia.

        Trying to split hairs on this only makes you look desperate
        And stupid

      • Fabj

        Corny

      • TheEquilizer2U

        Yes grammar nazis are corny

      • gian keys LOVES shemale porn

        seems I pathetically beat you down with HISTORICAL facts ( replete with YEARS and NAMES)
        see: ^^^ above for details

      • LoveArchy444

        “Islam is a lot like liberalism”

        Proof? I can easily say Christianity is a lot like conservatism as an attack as well.

      • Fabj

        Leftist talking point? Says the guy who counter argued the history of 500AD with a beheading in America last week.

      • TheEquilizer2U

        Beheading is something islam does, and he was a muslim convert

        Do you every watch the news?
        Read a newspaper lately?

      • gian keys LOVES shemale porn

        would u prefer to be burned alive at the stake as CHRISTIANS did to people ? thats real compassionate

      • TheEquilizer2U

        and muslims behead people
        We just saw a beheading last week and the week before

        When was the last time you saw a person burned at the stake?
        The answer of course is NEVER

      • gian keys LOVES shemale porn

        u are correct— i have never WITNESSED an immolation. Problem is,,,, it still happens
        waco TX 1916 a black man was burned alive by whites: those whites were religious and I suspect NOT moslems
        1990 some N korean generals were burned alive ( to death) and N korea is NOT a mulsim/moslem state
        2011 new zealand a HINDI man burned his wife alive,,,,
        1986 in CHILE 2 people ( one died) were burned by the “CHRISTIAN ” regime of Pinochet
        1945 several geman citizens were burned alive in Czechoslovakia by vengeful citizens. Czech people are CHRISTIAN; NOT moslems
        ******************************************************
        dontcha jes’ HATE a libtard progerssive who fights with FACTS???

      • TheEquilizer2U

        And yet you defend muslims for beheading
        I just got you to prove your bias

        I’m pretty sure youre one of them
        So where in the middle east did you immigrate from?

      • gian keys LOVES shemale porn

        I defended beheadings? nope! I just proved U wrong ( again) regarding burnings …..
        u do seem 2 hate when we slaughter your low IQ ass with facts

      • gian keys LOVES shemale porn

        he had ” no point” according to ONLY YOU
        =======================================
        the rest of us see his easy2spot point

      • TheEquilizer2U

        The mean the rest of you liberals agree with yourselves
        Is that suppose to mean something?

      • gian keys LOVES shemale porn

        I dont care about other “liberals” and what they write:::
        Im only interested in pissing all over your constant mistakes and historical errors
        =====================================
        pretty easy; maybe I will just have my pet TEGU pee on you
        ,,,,,,,,,,,,,, u are easy to defenestrate

      • TheEquilizer2U

        And liberals claim to be so proper
        Youre kinda vulgar

      • gian keys LOVES shemale porn

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        ======================================
        will that be pampers or huggies for you?

      • TheEquilizer2U

        Just pointing out your vulgarity

      • gian keys LOVES shemale porn

        splattering you often is the vulgarity which makes america the best country in the world!

      • Bob Dole

        Typical republitard trying to say christianity has never done any wrong. Queue the Dark Ages and Inquisition. But wait! You are all self-hating. You hate Jews and Muslims. Wasn’t jeebus a king of the Jews?

      • TheEquilizer2U

        See youre doing it again, the hypocrisy is hilarious.

        I never said christianity never done any wrong.
        It’s you trying to cover up the wrongs of islam
        The reasons are obvious, islam is much like liberalism.

      • gian keys LOVES shemale porn

        and,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, todays pseudo – CHRISTIAN regressives are slowly drying up: much 2 the happiness of women and gays and minorities here in America who seek the pursuit of happiness( see: Thomas Jefferson)

      • FuzzyBunnyFeet

        The portmanteau “republitard” is offensive and retards civil discourse.
        Not withstanding the evidence that it is pointless to try to have any kind of discourse with the broken record who calls himself “TheEquilizer2U”.

      • RBI

        Actually, TheEqualizer2U, or whatever your name is, you fired the first shot on Philip Neumann with “Try reading a book” and haven’t attempted anything other than being condescending and trollish since. Reap what you sow,

      • TheEquilizer2U

        Youre both trolls
        And not very smart ones

      • gian keys LOVES shemale porn

        and U are “smart”???
        sarah palin smart!

      • TheEquilizer2U

        Youre Biden dumb

      • gian keys LOVES shemale porn

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      • TheEquilizer2U

        Youre welcome
        Come back again when you need schooling

      • RLHHoof

        Yes, it is WAY too easy to go with grammer check and Fact Check on people such as yourself. Quit trying to rewrite history. Maybe you should actually attend a school, and quit making shit up as you go, just to fit in your narrow mind. Another fact you seem to want to ignore is that Christianity is the deadliest religion in history, not Islam! And I am a Christian, just not the Repulican kind.

      • TheEquilizer2U

        Everything I said can be verified
        all documented facts

      • Fabj

        And you conservatives rewrite history to make sure non white people are always to blame.

      • TheEquilizer2U

        Why cant you be responsible for your crimes like you expect from us?
        Coward maybe?

      • gian keys LOVES shemale porn

        your only visible crime is being ostensibly broken

      • TheEquilizer2U

        Liberal = broken

      • gian keys LOVES shemale porn

        correct— thats why we ar so flexible; unlike concrete stultified REGRESSIVES in the “patriotic/idiotic” tea party

      • TheEquilizer2U

        Is this more of that liberal tolerance?

      • gian keys LOVES shemale porn

        care to debate MY facts????
        and— my name calling can be GLORIOUSLY edifying!

      • Well, then, why don’t you make an effort to use proper grammar and spell correctly? Running spellcheck only takes a few seconds. (If you’d done that, you’d have found out you meant to say “cue” above–“que” isn’t even a word [maybe in another language, but I can’t comment on that], as far as I know.)

        I mean, really, EquALizer! Besides the fact that you HAVEN’T EVEN SPELLED YOUR OWN SCREEN NAME RIGHT, you’re leaving yourself wide open. Spell things correctly, and people might take your ideas a little more seriously. (Although, reading the tripe you’ve been vomiting on the keyboard…nope.)

      • TheEquilizer2U

        Because I like to watch you liberals get so worked up over a comma
        And completely ignore the facts against you

        It’s hilarious

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        I enjoy vaporizing you

      • TheEquilizer2U

        Wow.. are you 12 years old?

      • gian keys LOVES shemale porn

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        =================================
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      • TheEquilizer2U

        OMG… you have kids?!

      • Jim Valley

        These are not educated people, obviously.

      • usorthem3

        2 chronicles 15 13 all ppl, young & old, male & female who REFUSE to dedicate their life to the Lord God of Israel were to be put to death.

      • TheEquilizer2U

        And how many “infidels” were beheaded in the name of alah?
        Tens of thousands?
        They are still doing it to this very day.

      • Avatar

        You really had to single out on Islam and overlook on Christian’s bloodied history. You got to be kidding me. Dont try to argue with me any further because I was born and raised in heavy Catholic family. I read non-revisioned history books which lead me to realize that Popes in the past actually raped, steal, maimed, and even killed people for ‘in name of God’.

      • TheEquilizer2U

        You liberals wont do it
        Everytime you leftist pigs bring up christianity, I will remind you of islam
        And I’ll keep doing it until you admit it

      • Avatar

        I see no logic in this argument. Take care.

      • TheEquilizer2U

        Liberals are unable to see logic

    • Wayne Steele

      I take it the institution that granted you a diploma in history wasn’t accredited?
      Most people in history that died in armed conflict did so in the 20th century. Now, just off the top of your head, name one religious war of the 20th century. For a double challenge, open a few history books written by credentialed historians (The Encyclopedia of Wars is a good place to start) and learn how wars are started over resources and power. Even the Crusades mostly qualify. As for non-war killings, it’s still mostly about power and resources. Shouldn’t be too tough to figure that out.
      I don’t believe that atheism is the cause of mass shootings, but the fact that none of you can get through even a high school book of history and absorb anything from it at least proves that you are incapable of being the sole arbiters of logic and reason that you set yourselves up as.

      • Cat Marcuri

        While I will agree that WWII wasn’t completely religious in nature, you must admit that the Nazis did a lovely job of tying the destruction of Judaism into their cause, leading to the survival of very small numbers of the last remaining branch of Judaism after the destruction of the Jews over the previous millennium…

      • Wayne Steele

        WWII was about power. There is no way to say it was done “in the name of religion”. The extermination of the Jews was about ethnicity. That the historic religion of the Jews goes by the same name is just convenient for people that have a pathological need to blame religion for everything.

      • Fabj

        Or the facts that the guy was trying to make a master race. Nice of you to forget facts. Whens the Japs bombed Pearl Harbor, they weren’t looking to white out white men. Religion has ruined people. You are a perfect example.

      • Wayne Steele

        So now you’re claiming even the Japanese were religiously motivated? Even Sarah Palin isn’t that stupid.

      • saltcay

        Did I say anything about wars in the 20th Century? Now, I’m sure you can hardly wrap your pea sized brain around things that may have happened before Christianity, but religious wars war fought long before the 20th century, and even before we started numbering years after AD. However in answer to your inane question, what do you call the “Jihadist” wars going on in the Middle East? How about the Wars against Israel, Palestine, etc. Hmmm. I seem to remember one German (that resembled and early Charlie Chaplin) that murdered people that weren’t like him (read that to mean Jews, Gays, etc) in the 1930’s and 1940’s.

        Is it about power? Of course it is. “My God can beat up your God!”

      • Wayne Steele

        You said “in history”. The 20th century is part of history, and again, o illiterate one, more people died in armed conflict in that century than all others combined. That means I don’t need to go further back to disprove your idiotic claim because math.
        Those wars you need to blame on religion are clearly for resources and power and are drawn on ethnic lines. Most ancients did not distinguish ancestry from religion so the intellectually dishonest blame religion because analysis is hard.
        That covers nearly every so-called religious war.
        Your ad Hiterium moves the goalposts from “in the name of religion” to “weren’t like him” because even you know your position is indefensible. Unless, of course, you intend to go full anti-Semite and claim that it’s impossible for a Jew to die without blaming his religion. Otherwise, I accept your concession of defeat.

      • saltcay

        You are a special kind of stupid, aren’t you? “IN HISTORY” means IN HISTORY. From 9-28-2014 back to FOREVER. I didn’t limit my statement to the 20th Century. I said IN HISTORY! And if you think that Religion and Power don’t go hand in hand your are even MORE dense than even I thought you were. And that is very difficult to believe.

      • Wayne Steele

        I’m well aware of the definition of history, thank you. But since you’re really having trouble with the concept, let me help you. Add up all the deaths from armed conflict in the 20th century and call it A. Then add up all the deaths from all armed conflicts from all known history from the 19th century back to the beginning and then call it B. A is greater than B, and almost none of the causalities of A were religious in nature, therefore religion is not responsible for more killings than all other causes in the course of history before you even begin to examine earlier conflicts. If you did, you would discover the U.S. Civil War and the grand expansionist conflicts of European and Asian history that further tip the scales in favor of most deaths from armed conflict not being religious in nature. If you dive into the Crusades, you see plenty of examples of Muslims and Christians fighting on the same side because their real goal was territory and resources. The First Crusade was only won by the European Christians because of their Muslim allies. The Second Crusade was started only because the newly victorious Christians saw the riches of Damascus and wanted to take them — from the Muslims that had just recently been their allies. Religion is quite plainly not the cause of most killing in history. You are wrong. Period. I cited one of many sources written by credentialed historians that quite clearly refutes you. Your turn.
        Religion is an oft-used excuse for the abuses of power, but since atheists like Stalin and Mao commit the same abuses of power, it clearly shows that any excuse will do. Desire for resources and power is the cause, not religion. Take religion away and people will continue killing each other at the same rate.
        Here’s another math problem for you: if one out of every ten religious people wanted the world to be on fire, the world would be on fire. But, the number one cause of death throughout all history is and always has been complications from old age, even in all but the very worst places on earth for conflict. Those would be places like the Congo, where the conflict is also not religious in nature.

      • Fabj

        Defeat? Says the dude at war with himself. Find a battle of logic than come back.

      • Fabj

        I’m an atheist. I also was able to skip my final for history my senior year because my grade was so high. Case in point, I destroyed your ignorant comment. No go read your bible. I am going to study more actual history.

      • Wayne Steele

        Well, since I earned my high school and university history marks by doing the work instead of by mommy crawling under someone’s desk, your final skipping feat is unimpressive.
        You destroyed nothing. The original clown claimed that more people have been killed in the name of religion than anything else. That statement is demonstrably false. The two of you have done nothing but shift the goalposts around and dodge the subject while hiding your inability to process basic information behind fifth-grade quality insults. Now hurry along and get yourself another copy of “The God Delusion”. Uncle Dawky’s third home isn’t going to buy itself.

      • gian keys LOVES shemale porn

        I like his mocking the ersatz book called ” the bible”

    • Gabriel Gentile

      Has anybody mentioned the Spanish Inquisition, or were you not expecting that?

      • saltcay

        Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition! Bring out…THE COMFY CHAIR!!!

      • Gladys1963

        NOT the comfy chair!

  • TheEquilizer2U

    Well he is sort of right.

    Liberals believe we are just a collection of cells.
    Many believe we don’t have any free will at all.

    That kind of madness will drive most people to do crazy things.
    The mental illness the boy had didn’t help either.

    • Liberals don’t believe that – it’s not a party platform – but atheists may believe those points. It seems to me that you’re a troll. Good luck trying to draw baseless conclusions from the talking points of GOP idiots.

      • TheEquilizer2U

        Religious liberals are rare, and you know it.

        Just like liberals assume all conservatives and republicans are religious.
        You can’t have it both ways.

        Troll

      • saltcay

        The reason Religious Liberals are rare is because we don’t need a fictional book to dictate how to live our lives.

      • TheEquilizer2U

        Some people do.
        Who the hell are you to tell them how to think?

        And why do you keep assuming I am religious?
        Oh yeah, because you liberals assume anybody that disagrees with you MUST be a christian.

      • Trolls hide who they are online. Try again.

      • TheEquilizer2U

        Youre a troll?

      • ReligiousLiberal

        I’m a religious liberal. But I actually take the bible seriously when it says, “Judge not lest ye be judged”, and “Love thy neighbor as thyself”. I also believe that every human being has the right to live their life however they choose. Because whatever sins they commit is between them and god, and is absolutely none of my business. I’very read some of your other posts, you say atheists believe we are a collection of cells, well, we are. I just believe those cells had a certain unseen influence guiding them together. Science, as some believe, disproves that there is a god, when in actuality, Science is the method he uses to interact with his creation. And as for the Muslim thing, some of my best friends are muslims. Are they violent, absolutely not. Does their religion offend me, absolutely not. Would I try to convert them, absolutely not. Because they know my religion, falsely, but they know it all the same. When someone as sweet as my Muslim friend tells me that I am the only Christian she knows who is nice to her, it sickens me. These are people, no matter where they come from, who they worship, how they live their life. People are people are people. Let them discuss their lives with God when they pass on because they way they live is none of your concern. However, radicals of ANY RELIGION are dangerous. I don’the think they should be kiled but definitely punished for their crimes because they are against the laws if the land, and we are supposed to follow the laws of the land (unless those laws strictly endanger our religious beliefs). That’s all I really have to say here, plus, to everyone else, not all religious people are as you think they are. Anyway. Have a wonderful day.

      • TheEquilizer2U

        Then take your own advice and leave people alone.
        Don’t tell anyone how to think or what to feel

    • Laura Hurt

      You’re under the false impression that one needs religion to keep them straight. First of all, there are many christians who commit horrendous acts, so apparently their beliefs don’t keep them straight to begin with. Secondly, morals are human, not religious. I am an atheist and I want to be a good person because that is MY morality. Not because if I am not a god will punish me, or if I will that god will reward me, but for the reward being good gives ME and for the punishment being bad gives ME.

      • TheEquilizer2U

        Nice strawman

        I never said anything about needing religion.
        This is more generalization from you liberals.

        Are liberals even capable of reason?
        I think not

      • Jim Valley

        This is among the worst trolling I have ever seen. Can’t you guys do ANYTHING right?

      • Jerry Graybosch

        Hey Jim, don’t be so hard on him. Earlier he attempted to use “you’re” …almost got it right.

      • TheEquilizer2U

        Every liberal policy has failed.
        America today is a product of your failure as a liberal

      • Jim Valley

        The 40-hour work week is a liberal policy. So are workplace safety standards. So are food inspections and automobile safety standards. So are child labor laws and women’s suffrage. So are Social Security and Medicare. When your state secedes, you won’t have any of these things, and I’m sure you will be MUCH happier.

      • TheEquilizer2U

        Your also responsible for the 2008 meltdown.
        Most jobs lost forever.

        Nice work, you wanted to change America, well you did that.
        Now were more like mexico, but that was probably the plan all along

      • Laura Hurt

        If you say certain things, other people are going to assume certain points of view that would lead someone to thinking those kinds of things. I am sorry if that is confusing to you, but that is how grown ups discuss you know, without having to explain every little step of their thinking process. So let me break down the thinking process for you: if you say that ‘liberals believe we are just a collection of cells’ and conclude your comment with ‘that kind of madness will drive most people to do crazy things’, reasoning people are going to conclude that you are religious, because that is a religious view point. Because if you’re not religious, you would also know that people ARE a collection of cells but you would also know that that would not lead to the conclusion that that leads people to doing crazy things. Because morals exist outside of religion. If you are not religious, you must be a separate breed of ignorant of the facts of life. I don’t really care. You are just showing your own lack of reasoning here.

      • TheEquilizer2U

        That is the dumbest excuse for assuming I am religious.

        Again, this is why talking to liberals is pointless.
        You are not capable of reason.

      • Laura Hurt

        Sorry you can’t follow what I am saying, maybe you need a few more years as an adult and/or a course in logic.

      • TheEquilizer2U

        Maybe if you had an actual education, not the liberal indoctrination.

    • Pipercat

      Winner! Hasty generalization of the week! … and it’s Sunday!

      • TheEquilizer2U

        Liberals are the masters of generalizations.

        Lets start with the Patriarchy….lol

      • Pipercat

        Followed by a second! Care for the hat trick?

      • TheEquilizer2U

        Oh come on libby, tell us all about how “all men rape”….LOL

        The long list of generalizations from you libtards is staggering!

      • Pipercat

        Now you’re spinning. I was just pointing out you’re fabulously fallacious style!

      • TheEquilizer2U

        The spin is you.

        What an amazing troll you are.
        Did I upset you?

        Poor little libtard….lol

      • Pipercat

        Nope, laughing my ass off…

      • TheEquilizer2U

        Me too, what else you got libtard?

      • Pipercat

        More than you’ll ever have. Try going over to Yahoo! They love amateurs like you…

      • TheEquilizer2U

        My life is awsome, while yours is being a victim….LOL

      • Pipercat

        You like stones, don’t you?

      • TheEquilizer2U

        You like to troll dont you?

      • Pipercat

        Do you realize that every one for your responses is ad hominem? What’s even more extraordinary is you’ve covered all the different variants of the fallacy. Bravo!

      • TheEquilizer2U

        Oh know, a liberal using the word Fallacy….LOL

      • Charles Vincent

        Now I see where all the piss and vinegar are coming from.

      • gwynne

        ^You call everyone a troll who doesn’t agree with you, yet you are arguing with everyone, no matter what their comment is. That’s rather trollish. Now you have resorted to name calling. That only shows that you are losing your argument, which I think was only in your head. You accuse Liberals of generalizing, yet you are grouping all Liberals into one category. How very trollish of you. I realize I must be a Liberal in your mind, since I am pointing out your errors and fallacies, and I must say, I would much rather be called a Liberal than a conservative any day of any week. They at least have a conscience and care about all people…even Christian and Muslims!

      • TheEquilizer2U

        No the name calling and insults started with the libtard.

        So typical of you guys, always with the lies.
        you dont even try to hide it

      • Cemetery Girl

        Not all men rape. The concept that all men are just a lapse of control from raping someone is insulting. This is why men really should be insulted by the notion that women should have to dress and behave a certain way or a man will be unable to resist the urge to rape. Men are intelligent, capable of self control. Why not be insulted that the social attitude towards rape is that it is an unstoppable act?

      • TheEquilizer2U

        That is the message being sent by you leftist
        And I quote, “ALL men need to taught NOT to rape”, end quote

        You cant even see the blatant sexism

      • Cemetery Girl

        I have seen many signs stating “teach don’t rape instead of don’t get raped”. Not all men need to be taught not to rape, because many already understand that concept. Is it primarily left that state that woman must dress a certain way, not go out alone, not drink, not go out at night, ect. because it is behavior that brings on rape? Is it primarily the left that preach that as long as you follow certain guidelines you will not invoke a man’s uncontrollable urge to rape? It isn’t sexist to teach that women should follow certain guidelines because men are such basic, primal creatures that we can’t possibly expect some of them to resist the temptation to rape and why should that poor, uncontrollable man have his life ruined by a criminal record when he just couldn’t help himself? I find that a very insulting way to treat men. Feral animals can exercise self control, but it’s ok to say men can’t?

      • TheEquilizer2U

        that is the exact msg from the left
        All men must be taught this.

        As if we were all a bunch of animals….lol

    • Jim Valley

      This is nuts.

      • TheEquilizer2U

        Much like liberalism

    • LG LeBlanc

      Does’nt “free will” mean without religion, free to express without influence or free to think for ones self, free thinking???…Maybe i missed something

      • TheEquilizer2U

        According to you liberals, we don’t have free will.
        Just a biological response.

        How depressing, no wonder you leftists are always unhappy….lol

      • doctor_robot

        “According to you liberals, we don’t have free will.
        Just a biological response.” & “Liberals believe we are just a collection of cells. Many believe we don’t have any free will at all.”
        – what the hell does that even mean? your comments are so idiotic that it’s almost embarrassing to read. i will admit though, it is entertaining to watch you get schooled, and you not even realizing it. smh… i really hope you’re sterile.

      • TheEquilizer2U

        That’s what I would like to know, but that’s what you liberals always say.
        It’s just one of the reasons you love abortion.
        Just a clump of cells right?
        Who cares right?

        All liberals should be sterilized

      • doctor_robot

        your parents were siblings, right? you’re very ill-informed, and creepy. seriously.

      • TheEquilizer2U

        You should see a doctor for your mental illness

      • doctor_robot

        oh, i do. she said to stay away from inbreds. sorry.

      • TheEquilizer2U

        Seriously, see a doctor please

    • Cemetery Girl

      Technically, we are a collection of cells. What else would we be made of? Jello?

      We have free will, but we also have instincts. Proven instincts. Fight or flight is probably the best known, but we are born with others. Watch a hungry newborn. When hungry, a newborn will rub their open mouth over anything that brushes their cheek. They’re born with this. They don’t have to be taught to search for a nipple while being held. This doesn’t remove free will, but we are born programmed with some responses.

      • TheEquilizer2U

        It’s that cold outlook on life that I find disgusting

      • Cemetery Girl

        We are made of cells. It is a fact. We all have certain reflexive responses. It’s a fact. What is disgusting about that. There is more to nature than cells and reflexes, but it is an element and it’s interesting.

      • TheEquilizer2U

        The way you look at life is very disgusting.
        You must a real hoot at parties

      • John

        Um, I’m a Christian but it’s a scientific fact that we’re all made up of cells…

      • TheEquilizer2U

        Apparently being a christian didnt give you the love and respect for life.
        How sad…..

  • sherry06053

    As a resident of CT, who happens to be an atheist, I can say with absolute certainty, that it was a gun that killed those children and educators. Anything else is irrelevant. Gun laws need to be nationalized.

  • Philo Van Kempen

    TheEquilizer2u, winner of the daily Troll award. Congratulations! You’ve successfully used the most number of words without contributing anything intelligent nor conveying any truthful information!

    • John

      People such as him make me feel dirty to want to vote for conservative candidates. I consider myself right leaning, but more and more I feel alienated by “my” party simply because idiots such as him are in it.

  • Jim Valley

    How is it that even after all these years I continue to be astonished by the level of sheer stupidity on the far right? I have never SEEN a collection of such stupid people in all my life! How did this happen to them? Is it their media?

    • Jerry Graybosch

      Sadly, it has always been there…but mostly confined to family gatherings and local bars. The internet, once it became so easy to use, freed them. And once they saw how many others agreed with them, they began to think they knew something.

      • Jim Valley

        I think you’ve nailed it, Matey.

  • Jenett

    You can’t afford to vote Republican.

  • LoveArchy444

    1. Both religion AND capitalism are responsible for the deaths of more than a billion people.
    2. He’s using the guilty by association fallacy.
    3. This guy thinks atheists are nihilist, but at least following nihilism is better then believing that dinosaurs and man co-existed.

  • FuzzyBunnyFeet

    Why are people arguing with TheEqulizer2U? Almost everything after hir first “contribution” can be paraphrased as, “I know you are, but what am I?”

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  • Jim Bean

    Would it not be fair to say the Lanza was evidently unburdened by a fear of spending eternity in hell? If that doesn’t fit with atheism, what DOES it fit with?

    • FuzzyBunnyFeet

      No, it would not be fair. I personally have no idea what does our does not burden the psyche of a mentally ill person. Do you?
      Otoh, I know that I am “unburdened by a fear of spending eternity in hell”, and I have no desire to massacre 20 children, or anyone else.

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    • Cemetery Girl

      Not every religion has a version of Hell. Even a Christian can take an action and not be burdened by the fear of Hell if they believe their action is rightious. I have little knowledge of his mental state, but it is possible for even a devote Christian to commit a horrible act if they feel it is an act for God. It is possible for someone with mental illness to believe that God wants them to kill a person, perhaps their mental illness has convinced them that the person is evil or a demon, and then the harm would be considered (by the mentally ill person) an act honoring God.

  • Cemetery Girl

    Can we at least acknowledge that at least he isn’t denying it happened? Just this last week I read a piece that someone I kinda know shared. Turns out it was about the “new” additional proof that Sandy Hook was a planned hoax (using a local police training exercise, apparently at a school during school hours?) by our evil, liberal federal government so they could ban and remove all guns from American citizens. It talked about how vital it is that people know “the truth” so we could stop the liberal government from sweeping in with rapid legislation to take away all guns. Supposedly, Sandy Hook was an elaborate hoax, planned by the federal government. They claimed absolutely no one died or was harmed (so, were those killed supposed to be fictional people or were they actual people that the government pretended to be dead, I can’t figure that out), and it was only a local police training session (taking place at an active school…) The whole thing just left me shaking my head. So, while I don’t agree with his opinions, at least he isn’t denying it happened!

    • He isn’t denying it happened, but he’s saying none of those people died? That all those children and adults are all together somewhere?

      How sick. I wonder if he’d say that to those parents’ faces.

      • Cemetery Girl

        Hopefully he isn’t saying no one died. The piece I saw was not related to this man, it was just all about denying it happened or anyone died. I was repulsed. As you said, a real slap in the face to the families and community. Sadly, some people do not care how hurtful they are as long as it promotes their agenda.

        I just meant that at least, even though he doesn’t want guns being blamed, he isn’t just flat out denying it happened.