Greg Abbott Writes Completely Ridiculous Argument Against Marriage Equality

greg abbottSometimes I think conservative Republicans, especially those from Texas, couldn’t do anything else that would surprise me. After all, this is the state that gave us George W. Bush, Rick Perry, Ted Cruz, Louie Gohmert, and Steve Stockman. Remember Stockman and Gohmert, the two members of the House that make Michele Bachmann look like a sane, balanced human being in comparison?


Well now, I’m totally not shocked, but still surprised at the argument that current Texas Attorney General and Republican gubernatorial candidate Greg Abbott presented in his brief which was filed to the 5th Circuit Court of Appeals, which hears cases from Texas, Louisiana and Mississippi.

It is worth noting that the 5th Circuit Court of Appeals is known for being very conservative, and some people (myself included) believe the eventual ruling from this court will conflict with other federal appeals courts, thereby forcing the Supreme Court to finally rule on the matter of marriage equality.

Anyhow, in this brief, Greg Abbott was supposed to explain why allowing same-sex marriage in Texas would somehow undermine heterosexual marriage. Well, he decided not to do that; instead, he rambled on about how heterosexual marriage was better:

“The State is not required to show that recognizing same-sex marriage will undermine heterosexual marriage,” the brief read. “It is enough if one could rationally speculate that opposite-sex marriages will advance some state interest to a greater extent than same-sex marriages will.”

The new filing largely reiterated the same “responsible procreation” argument Abbott made in July, when the state first appealed a February district court’s ruling overturning the Texas gay marriage ban. In it, Abbott argued marriage among heterosexual partners is more beneficial to society because it encourages married couples to have children and provides an example for other couples to do the same.

“First, Texas’s marriage laws are rationally related to the State’s interest in encouraging couples to produce new offspring, which are needed to ensure economic growth and the survival of the human race,” Abbott wrote.

He added, “Second, Texas’s marriage laws are rationally related to the State’s interest in reducing unplanned out-of-wedlock births. By channeling procreative heterosexual intercourse into marriage, Texas’s marriage laws reduce unplanned out-of-wedlock births and the costs that those births impose on society. Recognizing same-sex marriage does not advance this interest because same-sex unions do not result in pregnancy.” (Source)

Yes, according to Attorney General Greg Abbott, heterosexual marriage is more important because apparently that’s the only way people can reproduce, and we need it to encourage others to do the same. I’m really wondering if Greg Abbott actually believes this nonsense, or if like many other politicians, he’s just pandering to the far right which does believe that society will fall apart and people will start marrying their pets if same-sex marriage becomes the law of the land?


You might think I am joking, but there are actually people out there who think that if we allow two consenting adults of the same gender to enter into a contract that says they promise to love and honor each other for the rest of their lives, that the next stop is polygamy or immediate family members marrying each other. They also believe that allowing two adult men, or two adult women the same privileges that any heterosexual couple is automatically entitled to will result in a man marrying his dog, at least according to Rick Santorum.

The tide is turning against the likes of Greg Abbott, Rick Santorum and other members of the religious right who are bound and determined to force their twisted version of Christianity on the rest of us. Either way the Fifth Circuit rules, we win. If they rule against marriage equality, then the Supreme Court has to step in since it refused to hear the appeals from marriage opponents in Virginia and other states. If they rule for it, then it drags Texas, Louisiana and Mississippi kicking and screaming into the 21st century.

I predict that by the time the 2016 presidential primaries begin, marriage equality will be the law of the land regardless of the opinion of the likes of Greg Abbott and the religious right, and history books will perhaps one day highlight his response as an example of the ridiculous arguments made against same-sex marriage.

You can read the entire brief here.



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  • kadyriath

    Yes, I was just saying to myself the other day I really love my TV and it would be so nice to marry it. But then I thought what if they make a newer model with more features? Divorce is so messy and I don’t want to have to pay alimony if the TV asks for it! Much better just to marry my boy friend and cheat with the TV on the side. That way if a newer model comes along I can just dump it and cheat with the new model. As long as my boy friend doesn’t find out I can even have affairs with several models at the same time and say have you seen that hot new toaster!

    • KyleZombie

      I had never really thought of anything other than a heterosexual relationship before, but now that I know that marrying my toaster is an option I suddenly feel like choosing to be a toastersexual.

      • Steve Brains

        Now are you a RACIST toastersexual? I mean are you gonna choose LIGHT or DARK?

      • Guest

        Carefully about burning your, you know.

      • marecek21

        Just be careful about burning your . . . well, you know what I mean.

    • SluttyMary

      Careful. If the toaster may take the Tivo with it when it leaves.

    • I always wanted to marry a bag of Cheetos. Maybe in my next life …

    • youcantgetridofmethateasy

      Do you have unprotected sex with that toaster?

      • kadyriath

        You know I tried that, it was a shocking experience! So I started using rubbers.

  • Jim Bean

    We’ve been incrementally giving up our traditional value set for decades now. I’m having trouble putting my finger on the social healing that we’re enjoying as a result.

    • KyleZombie

      I’m having trouble putting my finger on how exactly things are worse than they used to be?

      • Bobbi Beecher

        Dur, there is a black man as president, things are horrible!!!! (Sarcasm)

      • Michael Doyle

        Jim is a troll. Ignore everything he says.

      • Steve Brains

        Me too.

    • Steve Brains

      The reason is they NEVER successfully functioned. not in Victorian England, not in Colonial America, not in anywhere but the 1950’s American Movie.

      Then YOU need to take you retirement fund to Vegas and spend it all on a quality escort service. THEN tell me you don’t feel better in the morning.

      • Jim Bean

        Everything was broken right up until liberals came along to set everything right?

      • Steve Brains

        Nothing has changed no matter WHAT REGULATIONS you put on sex.

        WHY are you SO EAGER to regulate sex and SO RELUCTANT to regulate businesses? If PROCREATION OF CASH is so UNIMPORTANT as to not need any safeguarding through regulation, why are OTHER PEOPLE’s sexual pleasures and choices so in NEED of regulation?

        THERE I NO PROFIT IN FUC*ing!!! Well, not in the traditional sense.

      • Jim Bean

        Why does everything of high importance for liberals emanate from their groin?

      • Steve Brains

        Why are you so constantly interested in My groin?

      • Steve Brains

        Noting have been fixed except the economy and Healthcare. The war Bush MANUFACTURED and STARTED still rages on.

        I am betting that after the election. Obama will cal Congress back for authorization to transfer the Afghan troops to Iraq and syria on the way home… 180 days should do it. We put them in, the Turks cross the border. We leave 25,000 behind in Iraq to keep ISIS in a bottle along with Al Quaida. 12,500 in AfPak.

      • You write: “Nothing have”. That’s funny. Last time I looked, nothing was singular.

      • Steve Brains

        If that’s all you have, then you sure did pick the right moniker.

      • You’re hopelessly self-deluded. Pointing out such moronic English establishes that you are a moron. That’s pretty good for a first salvo, I’d say.

        The nickname, mosquito, comes from my childhood, when it was given to me because I was so fast. So, you’ve completely misunderstood the meaning of this moniker, moron.

      • Steve Brains

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      • You’re quite infantile.

      • Steve Brains

        bzz

      • Thanks for saving me the trouble of writing another proof that you’re a moron. Your post speaks for itself.

      • Steve Brains

        bbzzzz

      • Just like I said, your post speaks for itself.

      • Steve Brains

        It sure does!

      • That’s right. And what it says is that Steve Brains is a pathetically ignorant moron.

      • Steve Brains

        I am sure it does. Every time I flag you, you lose a point. You are @ about 150 now and the more frequently I set you up to be blocked, the sooner i get a standing ovation from the rest of the blog.

      • You’re full of crap. That’s not how the flags work. You’re making this up as you go along.

      • Steve Brains

        Ask Allen.

      • I don’t need to ask Allen.

      • Steve Brains

        BETTER ask Allen about that.

      • You’re reading comprehension is abysmal.

      • Steve Brains

        Ibid……

      • Like I said, this is puerile.

      • Steve Brains

        >00

      • This provides further proof that you’re a moron. Of course, we don’t need it, but confirmation doesn’t hurt.

      • Steve Brains

        Does it?

      • Yes, it most certainly does. Only a moron would respond to my post in the way that you responded. So, it proves that you are a moron.

      • You write: “I am betting that after the election.” That’s not a sentence.

      • Steve Brains

        That should be a comma. Thanks.

      • I assume that you are referring to the comma you inserted after the election. Now you have an initial clause,

        “I am betting that after the election,” which does not mean anything. You’ve still got a problem. It can be fixed, but you’ve not fixed it yet.

      • Steve Brains

        I don’t care. TWIT

      • You narcissistic moron, it doesn’t matter a hill of beans whether you care or not.

      • Steve Brains

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      • You’re quite moronically, infantile.

      • Steve Brains

        bzzz

      • Thanks for saving me the time and effort to write another proof that you’re a moron. Your post speaks for itself.

      • Steve Brains

        bbzzz

      • Like I said, you’re post speaks for itself.

      • Steve Brains

        Ditto

      • Yes, that’s right. And what it says is that Steve Brains is an intellectual pygmy.

      • Steve Brains

        But aren’t ALL pygmyies smarter than you? I mean they learned how to hunt a rhinocerous with a 2 ft bow and 2 ft stick. You can’t even remember what the discussion was about!!!! ROTFLMAO!!!

      • You truly are a moron. To say that someone is an intellectual pygmy means that their intellect is extremely small.

        I have not at all forgotten what the discussion was about.

        You’re just moronically making a bald, unsubstantiated assertion that I have. Which means that you have done nothing.

      • Steve Brains

        Ibid…….

      • Yes, indeed, this is puerile.

      • Steve Brains

        Ibid!

      • The dumber than a doorknob file on you is going to be pretty thick, just like you.

      • Steve Brains

        WHOA!!! SHOW me a DORRKNOB FILE!!!! PLEASE!!!!!
        THIS I just GOTTA see for My own three eyes.

      • You obviously failed to parse that sentence correctly.

      • Like I said, your post speaks for itself.

      • Steve Brains

        >0

      • You’re dead set on convicting yourself.

      • Steve Brains

        Of?

      • You’re dead set on convicting yourself of being a moron.

      • Steve Brains

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      • You’re quite pathetically and moronically childish.

      • Steve Brains

        Sarah Palin’s daughter Bristol Palincriticized Davis last week for attending Harvard Law School in the early 1990s while her daughters stayed with her second husband in Texas.

        “She left her kid, husband, made it into a false ‘made-for-TV-movie-type-tale’ and then demanded that Texans have the right to kill babies,” Palin wrote. “That’s the woman you libs can really get behind!”

        Amidst all the noise, Davis’ daughters’ attempted to set the record straight about their mother’s history as a wife and parent.

        Dru Davis called the attacks against her mother “malicious,” and a “false charge of abandonment:”

        Yes, she went to law school after my sister and I were born. We lived with her the first semester, but I had severe asthma and the weather there wasn’t good for me. My parents made a decision for my sister and me to stay in Texas while my mom kept going to school. But that doesn’t mean she wasn’t there for us. She traveled back and forth all the time, missing so many classes so that she could be with us. Her friends were such a big help. Especially her third year, when she would only go to school two weeks out of the month and her friends would share class notes so she could try to keep up while she was home with us in Fort Worth. I love that my mom went to law school and was dedicated to both her work and us. Watching her work so hard to achieve something great has been one of the most important lessons in my life.

        Amber Davis added to the family’s narrative about Davis’ time at Harvard Law School, and called the comments about her mother “ludicrous:” “Yes, we lived in a trailer. Does it matter how long?”

      • This post has absolutely nothing to do with the issue at hand. Why are you posting this in response to me? I’m not a supporter of Palin. I think that Palin is a thoroughly despicable person. And, apparently, she’s a moron like you.

      • Steve Brains

        bbzzzzz

      • You didn’t answer my question.

      • Steve Brains

        Never going to. You are just a mosquito. You don’t have cognitive language skills. you have proven that over 100 times in threee days.

      • You are hopelessly self-deluded. I’ve proven everything which I have asserted in this thread. You, on the other hand, just make bald, unsubstantiated assertions, which amounts to nothing.

      • Steve Brains

        Are you CLAIMING that mosquitoes HAVE cognitive and comprehensive language skills?

      • The fact that you ask that question demonstrates that you are a moron.

      • Steve Brains

        the fact that you are stalking Me should be a concern.

      • You’re seriously confused. I’m not stalking you. I’m exposing you for the fraudulent blowhard that you are.

      • Steve Brains

        To whom and who cares.
        That OCD medication is really failing you isn’t it.

      • You’re hopelessly childish. I am not on any OCD medication.

      • Steve Brains

        Ibid…..

      • This is puerile.

      • Steve Brains

        >>0

      • Entertaining yourself, in the midst of a debate, is quite a moronic thing to do.

      • Steve Brains

        How?

      • Each and every one of your posts convicts you of being a moron. They are all the product of a moronic mind.

      • Steve Brains

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      • Steve Brains

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      • Jim Bean

        Nothing in there I would dispute. But not till after the all important election.

      • Steve Brains

        Oooh kkaaaaay….

    • marecek21

      You are not being forced to give up any “traditional value set”. Live by the values you hold dear. Who is stopping you. What you really object to is the notion that others in society will not be forced to respect YOUR values. But, seems to me someone once said “This is a free country.” What ever happened to that? When did we go back to the time of the Salem Witch Trials. Live as you wish, Jim. Nobody is stopping you. What is the problem for you with that?

      • Jim Bean

        No one can force anyone to respect anything. You can only force someone to pretend to respect.

      • Steve Brains

        But you ARE Constitutionally obligated to allow GAY people the SAME 1st Amendment RIGHTS as a Flag Burner and an Abortion Seeker.

        One man deep throating his boyfriend is a STATEMENT, just as burning a flag is. Just as a woman CHOOSING to NOT be a mother to a specific lump of tissue is.

        BLAH BLAH BLAH “…speak for those who can not speak for themselves…’ BLAH BLAH. When the guy doing the throating is done, we’ll ask him what he feels and thinks about abortion rights for women.

      • Steve Brains, you obviously don’t know what speech is and, hence, what freedom of speech is or you wouldn’t have made this moronic argument.

      • Steve Brains

        YOu were better off in your normal role as spinelessly annoying twit. Once you started using that mosquito mind you really lost your charm.

      • You’ve got nothing, moron. You’re big on making bald, unsubstantiated assertions. Since you do this, you are clearly not intelligent enough to know that doing this is a complete waste of time for everyone who reads these assertions, including yourself. All such assertions are illegitimate and ruled out of any intelligent conversation. Why is that? Because, if we allow such assertions, than anyone can assert anything, which inevitably leads to moronic conversations, the type of conversation which you prefer.

      • Steve Brains

        Of Course I make bald insertions.

      • You’re a moron. I said nothing about bald insertions.

        Bald assertions are empty. They are thrown out of any intelligent conversation, as if they were never said. So, if you’re only making bald assertions, then you’re accomplishing nothing.

      • Steve Brains

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      • You’re hopelessly childish, moron.

      • You’re moronically childish.

      • Steve Brains

        Of course i make bald insertions. I use My manhood so much the afro wore plumb off the head. Bet you have propeller beanie adorning yours.

      • You’re a moron. I said nothing about bald insertions.

        I’m afraid that you’re very much confused about your manhood. You’re not a man, asshole. You’re vermin.

      • Steve Brains

        Took you 5 tries to get it hunh? BRainiasquito.

      • Steve Brains

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      • Steve Brains

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      • Steve Brains, (that’s a totally inappropriate nickname, since you don’t have a functioning brain), you wrote: “Bet you have propeller beanie adorning yours.”. That’s not a sentence, you intellectual pygmy.

      • Steve Brains (that’s a poor choice of a nickname, since you don’t have a functioning brain), I said nothing about bald insertions.

        You’re deeply confused about your manhood. You’re not a man, asshole. You’re vermin.

      • Steve Brains

        BZZZZzzzzzzzzz z z z z z z z z . . .

      • Steve Brains

        BZZZZzzzzzzzzz z z z z z z z z . . . .

      • Steve Brains (that’s a poor choice for your nickname, since you don’t have a functioning brain), I never said anything about bald insertions.

        You’re confused about your manhood. You’re not a man. You’re vermin.

      • Steve Brains

        BZZZZzzzzzzzzz z z z z z z z z . .

      • You’re quite moronically childish, Steve Brains.

      • You’re quite moronically childish.

      • You’re quite childish, moron.

      • You’re quite moronically infantile.

      • You’re quite hopelessly childish, moron.

      • Steve Brains

        BZZZZ . zzzzzzzzz z z z z z z z z

      • You’re quite pathetically childish.

      • Steve Brains

        bzz

      • You make it altogether too easy for me to achieve my goal of exposing you as a moronic blowhard. Thanks for doing that.

      • Steve Brains

        bbzzzzzzz

      • There you go. You’re a moronic blowhard. You’re also a loser, with nothing better to do with your time than to prove that you’re learning disabled.

      • Steve Brains

        Is your litle winkie hard yet?

      • You’re obviously fixated on the male member. You should see a psychiatric specialist about that.

      • Steve Brains

        I should see a hooker about THAT!

      • No, you need to see a psychiatric specialist about that. A hooker cannot help you with your problem.

      • Steve Brains

        My little bald head?

      • Seriously, you’re certifiably insane. See a specialist.

      • Steve Brains

        I am certifiably Mensa.

      • You’re certifiably a pathological liar. I’ve already proven that you are a moron. So, nothing which you can say can refute that irrefutable fact.

      • Steve Brains

        Ibid….

      • You obviously have nothing.

      • Steve Brains

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      • The dumber than a frying pan file is going to be pretty thick, just like you.

      • Steve Brains

        You sure that isn’t a frying pan FILE? Single or double cut?

        And ONLY a mosquitobraineddorkhole would need to sharpen a FRYING PAN!!!

      • You obviously failed to parse that sentence correctly.

      • Steve Brains

        That is true, as long as there is you.

      • Making moronic statements does not improve your lot.

      • Steve Brains

        0>uu

      • Yes, indeed. It’s firmly established. You’re a moronic blowhard.

      • Steve Brains

        0>uuuuuuuuuuuuuu

      • Since, by your earlier post, 0>u, it follows that:

        uuuuuuuuuuuuuu>0, not 0>uuuuuuuuuuuuuu.

      • What does it mean to be spinelessly annoying? Is that in contrast to being spinefully annoying?

      • Steve Brains

        Is speech ONLY CASH these days?

      • Like I said, you obviously don’t know what is speech.

      • Does capitalizing “only cash” make your statement more true, moron?

      • Steve Brains

        More Bzzzz

      • That makes more proof that you’re a moron.

      • Steve Brains

        Ibid

      • When you’re ready to finish your post, then let me know.

      • Steve Brains

        I am carving a totem pole for your grave.
        It’s gonna be a while before I even FIND a splinter small enough.

      • Like I have previously pointed out, you’ve got nothing. Bald, unsubstantiated assertions amount to just that, nothing.

      • Steve Brains

        INSERTions!!! Right up your ass!

      • You’re shoveling out more prurient interests. That’s the sort of Philistine pig ignorance I’ve come to expect from you noncreative garbage.

      • Steve Brains

        Ibid.

      • To what does your ibid refer?

      • Steve Brains

        What Do ALL ibid’s refer?

      • That question is complete and utter gibberish.

      • Steve Brains

        To WHAT
        so ALL
        Ibid’s
        Refer?

      • I’ve already dispensed with this nonsense, as I have with every single one of your posts.

      • Jim Bean, you obviously haven’t seen the Dirty Harry movies. Those punks weren’t pretending.

      • You wrote “Who is stopping you.”. That’s strange. That sentence is a question.

    • Di Kelley

      I’m having trouble seeing where it’s all that *bad* that we have.

  • gatorfan

    What’s done more to harm society…social liberalism or failed conservative economic policies? I’d argue that sending millions of jobs overseas without replacing them with jobs of equal pay has done more harm to the fabric of society than the acceptance of homosexuality and the relaxing sexual mores.

    • Steve Brains

      Failed social liberalism. By NOT keeping up the fight from the 60’s, the libtards who turned yuppie in the 80’s and 90’s became the GOP who hates real freedom today… so THAT failed social liberalism never really escaped establishment control. the blended in and sold out.

      • Lmaris

        Your point becomes moot with the use of the term “libtard”.

      • Steve Brains

        NO, libTARDS separates the genuine liberals from the TARDS Who turned Yuppie for cash and prizes and now vote RED and wanna deep throat Mitch McConnell.

      • youcantgetridofmethateasy

        Again, you mean Progressives.

      • Steve Brains

        BEing an Aggressive Progressive, I have to call you an idiot for you baseless assumptions and further proof you are badly educated far beyond your intelligence.

      • youcantgetridofmethateasy

        Mr. Steffy Barlow, you are free to reference me as anything you’d like (just as long as the Moderator continues to allow it)

      • Steve Brains

        zzzzz”You are a Toxic Waste of time.”

      • Steve Brains

        You are under Quarantine as a diseased nuisance….

      • Steve Brains

        NOT if you really READ what I wrote. There is a subtle difference between a libTARD yuppie selloutublican and what you are used to.

      • youcantgetridofmethateasy

        ‘What i am use to’??? Why you gettin’ all flustered?

      • Steve Brains

        zzzz”You are a Toxic Waste of time.”

      • youcantgetridofmethateasy

        He mis-spoke just as Joe Biden does from time to time. He meant to reference Progressive-Socialists.

      • Steve Brains

        You are under Quarantine as a diseased nuisance…..

      • karensc

        Forget it.

      • Steve Brains

        probably for the best.

      • youcantgetridofmethateasy

        Maybe not.

      • Steve Brains

        zzz”You are a Toxic Waste of time.”

      • apollard28

        what the hell are you talking about ??

      • Steve Brains

        READ!!! lern.

      • Fernando

        Steve, It is becoming clear, that your posts are humorous hyperbole! I am enjoying your comedic nonsense!

      • Steve Brains

        About Friggin’ time!!!

      • youcantgetridofmethateasy

        Did you also enjoy it when Billy “Big Dog” Clinton lied to you about sex?

      • Steve Brains

        You are under Quarantine as a diseased nuisance….

      • Bea

        Steve it makes little sense to type READ!!!!!! Then to type “lern”. Don’t bother to respond — I assume you are smart enough to know that there is an “a” somewhere in that word. If you are going to attack someone’s intelligence (or maybe just their opinion–which I have heard that opinions can not be wrong they are just opinions) I suggest proof reading before hitting “post”

      • Steve Brains

        It does!! Because READ is simple enough, but what’s more important is that he LERN. Which to him, is easier to understand that LEARN. 4 letter words are all this creature understands. That 5th letter, would have defeated the entire purpose of education for that fellow.

      • youcantgetridofmethateasy

        ‘He”? Are you referencing me? Seems your capabilities are similar to Pierre Brasseur’s from “Le Roi De Coeur”.

      • Steve Brains

        “You are a Toxic Waste of time.”zzzzzz

      • You’re making this shit up as you go along. LERN cannot be easier for Steve Barlow to understand than LEARN because LERN does not mean anything and, hence, is impossible to understand.

      • Steve Brains

        I recognize you disability and respect you for LERNING to type.

      • What you heard about opinions is patently false. For instance, if it is my opinion that I’m not typing this post in response to you, then my opinion is most definitely wrong.

        Some people believe in word magic. That is to say, they believe that by asserting something, it automatically becomes true. Such people are certifiably insane, failing to distinguish their imagination from reality.

      • Thanks for my laugh of the day.

      • Steve Brains

        Thou art quite welcome.

      • Bea

        I think what happened to the hippies/yuppies is they “grew up” and I would bet that most of them are democrats or independents. Now I will admit that I have not don’t any research on that statement (as I doubt you didn’t either) and in NO WAY do I present here as fact –only as my guess!!!!!

      • Steve Brains

        I just know My brother shaved, sliced off a pony tail and became a Reagan RED overnight, because he saw $$$$ in it. He took accounting in college to avoid the draft, and @ 32, he was wearing BRooks Brothers and carrying a Gucci attache` instead of a Fender.

        And the huge line of them @ the BMW dealerships, honking down deposits on 325i convertables. It was just the SUDDENNESS of it and the only guys left were the Dead and Marshall Tucker Band.

        I haven’t seen to many actual progressives over 30 except in the mirror in a really long time.

        MY POINT Bea, Is that unlike the southern racist who will change parties and keep what passes for ‘principles’, the SDS Liberals who were gonna change the world sold out and STOPPED trying to get their business done. The few of us left cried when Bush’s brother threw the election and SCOTUS assumed unconstitutional authority to named Dubya the winner.

        WHO was left to SUE for a recount, a second FLorida Election. NO ONE. And 10,000 died in the sand for a LIE, oil prices NEVER retreated for longer than the 2008 election propaganda… In Sisterboink, TN ( I SWEAR it’s on the map!!!), the rebel yell will be heard for 100 more hears, but in Berkley, it’s Sushi and $7 latte’s.

        Just lamentations for the possiblities that all seemed to Die June 5, 1968.

      • youcantgetridofmethateasy

        And modifying one’s politics to financially benefit is exclusively Republican? Have you every heard James Carville’s explanation as to why he’s a Democratic Operative?

      • Steve Brains

        One has nothing to do with the other.

      • youcantgetridofmethateasy

        Actually it has everything to do with the other.

      • Steve Brains

        “You are a Toxic Waste of time.”zzzzz

      • Steve Brains

        You are under Quarantine as a diseased nuisance…..

      • Is that right, you doubt that he didn’t do any research? In other words, you are inclined to believe that he did do some research. That’s very conciliatory of you.

      • robingee

        They didn’t sell out, man. They bought in.

      • Steve Brains

        Touche`

      • youcantgetridofmethateasy

        Touch you? EEWWW

      • Steve Brains

        zz”You are a Toxic Waste of time.”

      • Steve Brains

        “You are a Toxic Waste of time.”asq

    • Failed conservative policies. Now that they’ve sucked the nanny state dry, they try to blame the powerless and poor for it. Not one Wall Street CEO has been arrested and the GOP Banking Committee members practically gush with sexual ecstasy when Jamie Dimon comes to visit. lol!

      • youcantgetridofmethateasy

        So both Democrat & Republican is bad yet you still participate the very real farce with is the Public’s ‘right’ to vote.
        Are you prepared to take up arms to save your country? Oh that’s right, you’re the one’s who ‘feel’ that there is no Bill of Rights, unless it benefits the Liberal cause.

      • Steve Brains

        YOu are too stupid to waste time on. NO, We believe that the Bill of Rights was NEVER legislatively usurpable the way the Patriot Act REDS believed they have the right to NOT declare war but STILL SPY on American citizens out to 1000 person circle around them. Secret courts, warrantless searches and secret prisons are the RED Sovietization of America Party’s idea of ‘Liberty and Freedom.

      • youcantgetridofmethateasy

        “We believe”??? And who do you claim to represent Mr. Stephen Barlow? And what’s with your refusal to recognize your Bush’s as Progressives? Bush was after all, the one who buckled to the Democrats in setting up all these Black Prisons in Poland and Jordan. So who’s actually against “Liberty and Freedom”? You?

      • Steve Brains

        “You are a Toxic Waste of time.”x

      • Steve Brains

        You are under Quarantine as a diseased nuisance…

  • Pipercat

    The fourth paragraph in the block quote is absolutely hilarious. Really Greg? Well perhaps you should spend some time in a rural pediatric clinic; say in Liberty county. By your standard every one of those kids should’ve been born in Wedlock. Well let me say this about that:

    Bwahahahhahhhahahaaaahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!

    • Steve Brains

      “Texas’s marriage laws reduce unplanned out-of-wedlock births and the costs that those births impose on society.”

      THIS is the part i wanna use as a SHIV in his ribs. His own words about how unwed births COST MONEY!!! Which is the REASON abortion clinic closings for the people of Liberty country and the rest of Texas MAKE ZERO SENSE. particularly for fraudulent reasons.

      • Pipercat

        Did you know there is only one hospital in the entire county? I think one dentist too; due to the dazzling smiles!

      • Steve Brains

        NO, but I remember the ride up rom Laredo to FT Stockton on 90.

      • Pipercat

        Yeah.. well, I bet you didn’t hear banjos!!!!!!!!!!

      • Steve Brains

        Luckily no gunshots either.

      • Pipercat

        That’s cuz ya never hear the one that gits ya…

      • Steve Brains

        That is VERY true!

      • youcantgetridofmethateasy

        Was that in the cab of that Tractor Trailer where the driver couldn’t keep his hands off you?

      • Steve Brains

        zzzz”You are a Toxic Waste of time.”

      • youcantgetridofmethateasy

        Have you ever thought that responsibility to one’s self, over the ‘If it feels good, do it” mentality would be better for Society at large? where is the ‘Personal Responsibility’ in your argument?

      • Steve Brains

        Premise A) is that you are your brother’s keeper and your must DECIDE to benefit society at your own personal detriment and sacrifice.

        Premise B) is that you become completely responsible for ONLY yourself and fuck those who want a handout, need help or want to better themselves WITHOUT a Trust Fund.

        The A) group PAYS their taxes while the B) group ships both jobs and their profits offshore to EVADE taxes.

        Where is the “personal Responsibility” you are bitching about in NOT paying for YOUR SHARE of the societal obligations you benefit from.

        You are a mindless barfbag of ignorance. It is so sad to see how badly you are educated beyond your intelligence.

  • Patricia Rauscher

    I wish in your article you had included how many heterosexual live together in Texas without marriage and also how many children are born out of wedlock in Texas because I’m sure his augment would not hold up at all!

    • Steve Brains

      I doesn’t!!

      • Emma Huckleberry

        I does!..

      • Steve Brains

        How so? How do Texas’s marriage laws rationally related”

        The State’s SHOULD NOT HAVE ANY interest WHAT PROPLE DO IN THE PRIVACY OFTHEIR HOMES AND RELATIONSHPS!!!

        There is a State interest in reducing unplanned out-of-wedlock birth EXPENSES.

        By channeling procreative heterosexual intercourse STOP RIGHT HERE. THIS IS THE DELUSION.

        I CAN’T SAY 99% OF SEXUAL INTERCOURSE IS recreational and NOT intended for procreation, but I can almost absolutely ASSURE you that 100% of ‘out of wedlock intercourse IS NON PROCREATIVE and RECREATIONAL IN INTENT!!!

        Texas’s marriage laws reduce unplanned out-of-wedlock births and the costs that those births impose on society . THEY DO NOT!!! THERE IS ZERO data of any kind that proves Abbott’s case. If there were, why has it not been presented?

        The statistics and expense reports contradict My Abbott’s ingnorance.

        1) Unless the homosexual community is a significant segment of society, 25% or more say, then Gay Marriage would have little if not ZERO effect on the # of Quarterbacks who knock up cheerleaders in high school, or single women who CHOOSE to have a child by choice as a single mother.

        2) The costs of poverty stricken children of DIVORCE is a vastly more significant issue today than the <5% of Texas that wanted EQUAL BENEFITS AND TAXATION with hetrosexuals.

        Let Abbot care for the children and families of STRAIGHT people by NOT fighting MEDICAID Expansion and TAKING the free Federal HUNDREDS of millions of DOLLARS already earmarked for their benefit and welfare.

        3) if Abbott actually cared about the hertorsexual couples children in Texas, he would be fightingto RAISE THE MINIMUM WAGE to a LIVING Wage, so these families his is using (badly) as an prop for his State Sponsored HATE, RAGE and HOMOPHOBIA ROAD SHOW to the Governor's mansion can actual CARE FOR THEMSELVES and NOT be a statistic.

      • youcantgetridofmethateasy

        And yet you demand that the federal gov’t insert itself into your bedroom to protect what you do there. Why do you want a gov’t that can’t bomb the Euphrates Valley, can’t run a Profitable Post Office, can’t sell guns to Mexicans? can’t intimidate Conservative tax-exempt applicants? and can’t rescue our Libyan Ambassador, to be in charge of your bedrooms? .

      • Steve Brains

        The Post Office was profitable UNTIL the Tepublicans saddled them with unreasonable demands to fund the retirements of employees who are not even born yet. However, the USPS has persevered and through INCREDIBLY ASTUTE MANAGEMENT, has met the Union Busting burden inflicted upon it for political reasons. They should be completely on track in 2 years.

      • Steve Brains

        The democratic FREEDOMS in your bedroom REMOVE the Republican invasion of your privacy.

      • Steve Brains

        nO, I ask the Government to legislate AGAINST ANY interest in My bedroom. To legislate that STATE’s CAN NOT violate My right’s to privacy.

        You are under Quarantine as a diseased nuisance.

      • youcantgetridofmethateasy

        And yet you demand the gov’t enters your bedroom and sanctify what you’re doing in there. What’s that all about? First you want it out and then you want it in?
        ‘Brown Chicken, Brown Cow’.

        BTW Stephen Barlow, why do you change your screen name on every thread?

      • Steve Brains

        “You are a Toxic Waste of time.”xx

      • Steve Brains

        You are under Quarantine as a diseased nuisance..

    • DavidD

      We have a high rate of children born out of wedlock and the highest teenager preganancy rate in the nation.
      His philosopic musing are nonsense since the policies he and the GOP have pushed for the last 20 years don’t bear out what he is saying.
      Abbott is about as sorry an individual you would ever want to meet in this ludicrous GOP clown parade we got here down in Texas and that’s saying a lot considering the numerous other ones we got running around loose..

    • youcantgetridofmethateasy

      Homosexual couples give birth? How can two Mules procreate?

  • jmiker

    Word salad, with all the toppings! I know two lesbian couples, both had in vitro and both have two kids each. I’ve met the kids from one couple, 4 and 8 years old, happy, content… and very, very loved.

    Besides, if it’s estimated that 10 percent of the US population is gay, being allowed to marry isn’t going to change that percentage. So, since it’s more likely a *married* gay couple would go about having children than non-married gay people, doesn’t it make sense, in his distorted perspective anyway, to encourage people to marry, gay or not???

    So there you go Mr. Abbott. Take your word salad and shove it.

    • Di Kelley

      Not only that? Homosexuality is nature’s way to insure that over population does *not* occur

      • Steve Brains

        Please forgive my jim, charles , GooberTurd , bah and squito and all the transgenderd ETC.

        But THINK HARD on this. If you DON’T drive natural selection homosexuality UNDERGROUND and force it in the closet like pot in 48 states, Gay people WILL BREED THEM SELVES OUT OFTHE GENE POOL in 4 generations.

        If THAT is God’s WILL, then LET GOD, handle it.

      • Di Kelley

        Steve, I honestly don’t think any of it *should* be in the closet. Everyone should be free to live in whatever they wish as long as they are not *directly* harming anyone else.

      • Steve Brains

        Agreed. In a loveless, perpetual WAR Republican universe (Nation), celebrating all the love that can be found should be a privilege, not a cause for a bigoted campaign.

      • youcantgetridofmethateasy

        Thank goodness your Father & mother decided not to abort you. But what happened to the family dog when they brought you home? Someone had to go.

      • Steve Brains

        “You are a Toxic Waste of time.”zzzz

      • youcantgetridofmethateasy

        Ever since the ‘gehy’ gene was isolated, parents can choose to either keep or abort that genetic anomaly.
        A Swiss Doctor say he’s isolated the ‘Liberal’ gene.

      • Steve Brains

        Nonsense. Political preference and understanding is 100% environmental and ZERO PERCENT genetic.

  • chaserblue

    The man is completely and utterly b–s— insane.
    First of all, we really don’t need to worry about the propagation of the species since there are 7 billion people on the planet. I’m sure the human race will find a way to carry on without a few more Texans. I know, I know…it will be tough, and there will be dark and dismal days ahead…but I’m sure it will carry on anyway.
    Same sex marriage DOES help children up for adoption, though.
    It helps the economy, because after all, they make better consumers…and isn’t that what all those precious, precious corporation/people want? MORE consuming??
    Out of wedlock births have been happening for oh…a few million years or so. Denying a group of people rights that everyone else has (which goes against the entire reason for the founding of this country) is not going to change that one iota.
    For the dog argument, see the video “Sex with Ducks” by Garfunkle and Oates. A completely hilarious response to a completely ludicrous argument.

    • Steve Brains

      AMEN to NO MORE TEXANS!!!!

      • DavidD

        Never say never Steve.If someone like Barbara Jordan comes along or Sam Rayburn or,Maury Maverick I think we ought to give them the job.

  • Steve Brains

    What I wanna see is his brief in the appeal of the Federal judges REVOKING the VOTER ID laws.

    “We as free and WHOITE Texans deserve the opportunity to vote with impunity for the candidates we FORCE upon those people of color who may not agree with us.”

    LMAO!!!

    I mean HOW is he going to further justify ANY ONE of the 3 reasons the law failed Constitutional muster.

    He is going to have to PROVE, (to an admittedly RED biased Court) that voter suppression NEEDS to be mandated in order to eliminate how many counts over 20 years of voter fraud? He is going to have to PROVE that voter suppression is NOT now never has been and never will be RACIALLY motivated.

    And he’ll never get there because President Obama, he sure picked an HONEST and forth right judge in Corpus Christi!

    • Steve Brains, did you mean to speak of a forthright judge? I’ve never heard anyone speak about such a concept as forth right.

    • I’ve never heard of justifying a reason. If A is a reason for B, then there is no reason to justify A as a reason.

      You’re very big on bald, unsubstantiated assertions, assertions which amount to nothing, as all such assertions do.

      • Steve Brains

        TY for winning the NONSENSE prize

      • Steve Brains

        In Court, you have to justify EVERYTHING. Well, NOt In Roberts Court, if you are Alito or Scalia.

  • Steve Brains

    I can’t WAIT to see the Wendy Davis ADS against Greg Abott and his Voter suppression FAILURE. These will be precious. One lone Don Knotts type of Texan in line with gang bangers and black panthers and all those neighbors of all of us… Then Milton Berle in a dress in a line of gang banger and black panther women….

    “One man- one vote. One woman- one vote. That’s Wendy Davis’s way because it’s the American Way!”

    The 100 Don Knotts and 100 Milton Berles in a line “Greg Abbott worked hard to suppress YOUR vote and put Texas back 50-60 years. Do you want Greg Abbott’s Jim Crow Texas? then get out and VOTE against Republican Racism!!!!”

    ‘I’m Wendy Davis and I approve of slapping the bejesuss outta that bigot!!”

  • Nemisis

    It would appear there is a fundamental flaw in the theory that the prevention of marriage equality will promote less incidences of un-wed pregnancies.

    • marecek21

      Yes, there is. It’s patent nonsense.

      • mosquito

        As a matter of fact, there is a way that more same sex marriages could lead to a
        greater number of un-wed pregnancies. Couples in same sex marriages may
        want to have a child. They may then resort to hiring a surrogate mother.
        It is possible that a sizable number of these surrogate mothers would
        be un-wed. Their pregnancies, therefore, could be un-wed pregnancies. In
        this way, more same sex marriages could result in more un-wed
        pregnancies.

      • Steve Brains

        MArried couples who stay married for the worst reason “because of the kids” are STILL gonna birth just as many ‘out of wedlock’ BASTARD children as before.

      • This may be true, Steve Brains. But it is irrelevant to the issue at hand. Moreover, it’s not true, since the children that married couples birth are not out of wedlock bastard children.

      • Staying married “because of the kids” is most certainly not the worst reason to stay married. Surely, your imagination is not so poor that you cannot think of worse reasons for staying married. It’s not exactly rocket science.

      • Nemisis

        Education, and access to contraception have prevented far more un-wed pregnancies than opposite sex marriage and the alleged high moral standards of religions combined.

        Married same sex couples have a greater tendency to adopt the children other opposite married couples disdain regardless of the circumstances of the children.

        Surrogate pregnancies by their very nature are planned and therefore not germane to the data of out-of-wedlock pregnancies unless observed in the very strictest sense. That would lead to a corruption of the data, as planned vs unplanned is part of the criteria.

        Overall, Mosquito that is one of your better posts.

      • You write: “Married same sex couples have a greater tendency to adopt the children
        other opposite married couples disdain regardless of the circumstances
        of the children.” So married same sex couples are opposite married couples (“other opposite married couples”)? My God, you’re pathetically moronic.

      • Nemisis

        You do realize that when you focus on a comma or lack thereof you are being baited? Trollish behavior such as yours is easy to predict because your anally obsessed with being right at any cost.

        I gain when you flame. WP, you owe.

      • mosquito

        That’s more of your nonsense. I’m not being baited at all. You are not profiting from my response. You are not predicting my response. All of that is just more of your bald, unsubstantiated assertions, which amount to nothing.

      • Nemisis

        I never said profiting.

      • Nonsense, you said that you were making money off of your bets. That’s profiting. It doesn’t matter what you do with your profits. It’s still profiting. It’s still making a profit.

        Even a non-profit makes profits. It is called a non-profit, not because it doesn’t make a profit, but because it doesn’t keep its profits for itself.

      • Nemisis

        You’re an idiot. Making money off bets and that money is then handed to charity is not profiting. It would be profiting if I claimed the charitable acts on a tax form. Since I donate and do not claim, there are no profits to me. A more accurate description of what is happening would be a pledge pool.

      • No, you’re an idiot. You obviously don’t know what the word profit means. The fact that you take your profits and put them into charity does not imply that you had no profits. After all, what is it that you put into charity, your losses? My God, you’re a moron.

      • jamesfitzgerald

        You obviously don’t know what are profits.

        What are you giving to charity, if not your profits? Are you giving your losses to charity?

      • mosquito

        You wrote: “Trollish behavior such as yours is easy to predict because your anally obsessed with being right at any cost.”. That sentence is so hopelessly illogical, it’s embarrassing. There is absolutely no relation between the premise and the conclusion. Don’t venture into logic. You have not got a clue about logic.

      • Nemisis

        Whatever you need to make through the moment.

      • You’re not baiting anyone at all. You’re way too dumb to do that.

      • Stephen Barlow

        …Hey Rubber stamp Fitzgerald!! You type the same garbage to EVERYBODY!!! Yada yada nada! What’s painful is being humiliated in the only safe place you thought you had. You only have ONE response to EVERYTHING. You psychopathetic genderless robot.

        You’ve obviously got nothing. Post after post, you give a string of bald, unsubstantiated assertions, which amount to nothing. Such assertions are inadmissible, since you did not substantiate them. So, you have yet to contribute anything to the discussion.

      • You write: “Surrogate pregnancies by their very nature are planned and therefore not
        germane to the data of out-of-wedlock pregnancies unless observed in
        the very strictest sense.” That’s utter nonsense. The discussion was about out-of-wedlock pregnancies, not unplanned out-of-wedlock pregnancies. You don’t get to change the subject, moron.

      • Nemisis

        Actually the overall topic implies the data constraints. I also recognized that the observation was valid if observed in the strictest sense. Which you quoted. Therefore, you little monkey, have failed again.

      • mosquito

        Nonsense, your logic is abysmal. There is no such implication. You are just making a moronic, bald, unsubstantiated assertion that there is such an implication. That’s par for the course with you, you’ve got nothing.

      • There is no such implication. You believe in word magic.

      • Stephen Barlow

        .Hey Rubber stamp Fitzgerald!! You type the same garbage to EVERYBODY!!! Yada yada nada! What’s painful is being humiliated in the only safe place you thought you had. You only have ONE response to EVERYTHING. You psychopathetic genderless robot.

        You’ve obviously got nothing. Post after post, you give a string of bald, unsubstantiated assertions, which amount to nothing. Such assertions are inadmissible, since you did not substantiate them. So, you have yet to contribute anything to the discussion.

    • mosquito

      Actually, there is a way that more same sex marriages could lead to a greater number of un-wed pregnancies. Couples in same sex marriages may want to have a child. They may then resort to hiring a surrogate mother. It is possible that a sizable number of these surrogate mothers would be un-wed. Their pregnancies, therefore, could be un-wed pregnancies. In this way, more same sex marriages could result in more un-wed pregnancies. Once again, your logic is abysmal.

      • Nemisis

        Your a clown. Your thought process is rivaled only by decaying vegetation. You have professed to be someone you are not. You are therefore a liar. Everything you say should be interpreted as a lie. Your logic is based on a set of rules that is not supported by real world data.
        Your in ability to comment sans hostility is indicative of a weak position and you recognize it as such therefore you must attempt to depreciate anyone and everyone who does not agree with you. Your behavior is like that expected of the off-spring of Paul Ryan and Rand Paul.
        Finish the equation yet? No, because you can’t. Therefore you are not McCarthy, as you claim, and therefore you are a liar. Go away little troll the adults are discussing thing here.

      • What was it that you were trying to say about my a clown (i.e. your a clown)?

        You’ve got absolutely nothing. For that is what bald, unsubstantiated assertions are, nothing.

        I have not merely professed to be John D. McCarthy. I have proven that I am John D. McCarthy. Any competent logician can confirm that my argument to this affect is a proof.

        Your logic is abysmal. You have yet to state a correct conditional statement, where your premise implies your conclusion. In particular, you have no argument that I am a liar or that everything that I say should be interpreted as a lie. All that you have is bald, unsubstantiated assertions. That is to say, all that you have is nothing.

        You write: “Your in ability”. I’m not familiar with this construction. What is my in ability? Is that in contrast to my out ability?

        Having hostility towards an asshole like you is no indication whatsoever of a weak position. It is, however, an indication of good judgement of character.

        You have no proof that I cannot finish your equation. All that you have is a bald, unsubstantiated assertion that I can’t. In other words, you have nothing.

        You have no proof that I am not McCarthy or that I am a liar. All that you have is bald, unsubstantiated assertions. In other words, you have nothing.

        That about sums it up. All that you have is nothing.

      • You write: “Go away little troll the adults are discussing thing here.”. That’s not a sentence, moron.

        Oh really, the adults are “discussing thing here”. Did you mean to say that the adults are “discussing Thing here”?

      • Nemisis

        Seriously, you need to take your meds.
        If you are going to quote me, at least use cut & paste.

        To answer your question. Perhaps, Thing 1 or maybe Thing 2. Definitely “things” that do not include you.

      • Once again, you have proven yourself to be a moron. You have no idea whether I am even on meds. Yet, you moronically pretend to know that I need to take meds.

        I did use cut & paste to quote you, moron. I always use cut & paste to quote people, if only to save me the trouble of typing the quotes.

      • Nemisis

        Then I can only assume your incompetent. You wanna proof read your post?

      • mosquito

        You’re hopelessly self-deluded. Any objective reader of our interchange knows that I am in complete control of this interchange and you are completely out to lunch. There is no need to proof read my post. I’ve proven that you are a liar, so it doesn’t matter what you say about it.

      • Nemisis

        Really, Mr. Thing? You positive, or just hope no one else spots your error.

      • mosquito

        Like I said, you’re hopelessly self-deluded. I have made no errors in posting to this thread.

      • Nemisis

        My original post:
        ” Go away little troll the adults are discussing things here.”

        Still applies.

      • mosquito

        No, it never applied, and it does not apply now. It’s just another one of your bald, unsubstantiated assertions. Hence, it is nothing, which is all you ever had.

      • Nemisis

        You are a sensational dumbass bent on proving you are superior, yet you continue to fail at all THINGS.

      • Nemisis

        sure you didn’t

      • You’re addicted to word magic for sure.

      • Stephen Barlow

        Hey Rubber stamp Fitzgerald!! You type the same garbage to EVERYBODY!!! Yada yada nada! What’s painful is being humiliated in the only safe place you thought you had. You only have ONE response to EVERYTHING. You psychopathetic genderless robot.

        You’ve obviously got nothing. Post after post, you give a string of bald, unsubstantiated assertions, which amount to nothing. Such assertions are inadmissible, since you did not substantiate them. So, you have yet to contribute anything to the discussion..

      • godlessveteran

        Please do not insult decaying vegetation with such a comparison.

      • Nemisis

        I guess I might have caused damage to the reputation of decaying vegetation. Any problem with the human itch mite?

      • mosquito

        Beating your chest like a moronic ape accomplishes nothing. That’s what you’ve got, nothing.

      • Nemisis

        Nope, I think it will stay as is.

      • mosquito

        Like I said, you’ve got nothing. According to Einstein, you’re insane, because you keep repeating the same logical mistake, hoping that it will accomplish something.

      • Nemisis

        practice that in the mirror did you

      • You’ve got nothing, as you most definitely know.

        That is why you don’t substantiate your assertion.

        It’s just a completely empty assertion, with nothing to back it up.

        You
        believe in word magic, in the idea that by just saying something,
        you’ve established it to be true. That makes you certifiably insane.

      • You’ve got nothing, as you very well know.

        That is why you don’t substantiate your assertion.

        It’s just a completely empty assertion, with nothing to back it up.

        You
        believe in word magic, in the idea that by just saying something,
        you’ve established it to be true. That makes you certifiably insane.

      • You’ve got nothing, as you well know.

        That is why you don’t substantiate your assertion.

        It’s just a completely empty assertion, with nothing to back it up.

        You
        believe in word magic, in the idea that by just saying something,
        you’ve established it to be true. That makes you certifiably insane.

      • You’ve got nothing, as you well know.

        That is why you don’t substantiate your assertion.

        It’s just an empty assertion, with nothing to back it up.

        You believe in word magic, in the idea that by just saying something, you’ve established it to be true. That makes you certifiably insane.

      • godlessveteran

        Shut it, clown. You have nothing of importance to say.

  • Avatar

    A man riding the wheelchair who doesn’t have compassionate feeling? That’s cold.

    • Steve Brains

      DUDE!! No one RIDES a wheelchair. It’s a tool, not an amusement.

      • Steve Brains, cowboys on cattle drives rode horses. They did not do it for amusement. Where the hell did you get the idea that riding something necessitates doing it for amusement?

      • Avatar

        I just asked my friend on wheelchair, he said he is fine with the term of riding on it because it’s what it is for. I realize that you must be taking it personally because you’re sticking with Abbott and his thug politics over futuristic politician in Wendy Davis.

      • Steve Brains

        NO, I only saw the ad this morning on Today Show. I thought it made a brutally perfect point, although I could see some people missing it. But then again, GREG Abbot is the guy who made the case… Wendy just told the truth about the shyster. BEt Jon Stewart has it on tonight!!

  • Two gay guys have sex and one of them gets pregnant. Don’t you want them to get married to raise the child properly? I don’t think Mr. Abbott has thought this thing through far enough. Does he want them to get an abortion?
    I’ll be back in a second, I have to go slam my head in the wall…

    • Steve Brains

      He hasn’t thought about any thing except the HATE FUELED Republican agenda.

      • You’re a pathological liar. You have no way of knowing that what you wrote is true. Yet you say it anyways. That makes you a thoroughly untrustworthy person. You will say anything if you believe it advances your cause. You’re a partisan bigot and a sleezeball.

      • Steve Brains

        Sure I do. It’s called Deductive reasoning based on historical EVIDENCE. And I found the EVIDENCE by intuitive thought processes known as CRITICAL THINKING SKILLS.

      • Steve Brains

        Pathological :

        : extreme in a way that is not normal or that shows an illness or mental problem

        medical : relating to or caused by disease

        : of or relating to the study of diseases : relating to pathology

        Full Definition of PATHOLOGICAL

        1

        : of or relating to pathology

        2

        : altered or caused by disease; also : indicative of disease

        3

        : being such to a degree that is extreme, excessive, or markedly abnormal

        Like that? like someone who gives a SOURCE AND the DATA in it’s entirety? That kind of liar?

      • That’s right. You’re a liar to “a degree that is extreme, excessive, or markedly abnormal”. You have no regard for the truth. You will say anything that occurs to you so long as you think, rightly or wrongly, that it supports your position.

    • As a matter of fact, there is a way that more same sex marriages could lead to a greater number of un-wed pregnancies. Couples in same sex marriages may want to have a child. They may then resort to hiring a surrogate mother. It is possible that a sizable number of these surrogate mothers would be un-wed. Their pregnancies, therefore, could be un-wed pregnancies. In this way, more same sex marriages could result in more un-wed pregnancies.

      • Yes. Tell me, would those children be going to loving homes that went through a lot of effort to get them conceived or would they wind up like all the other children of un-wed pregnancies?

      • That question is totally irrelevant to the issue at hand. The issue at hand was whether more same sex marriages could lead to more out-of-wedlock births, not whether it could lead to more out-of-wedlock births of a given type.

  • LMB

    This has to be one of the dumbest things I ever heard! How in the hell does “traditional marriage” reduce out-of-wedlock births??? I can’t even begin to discuss this….. It is beyond….

    Honestly I think polygamy should be legal. If we are going to have marriage equality, then it needs to be across the board. As long as every single person involved is fully consenting and happy, who cares? If you want to marry your own family member, it sounds like you’ve got some real personal issues to work out, but there are instances of incestual relationships in the Bible, so I guess you’ll be closer to God. The animal argument is my favorite argument. Here’s the deal…. There will never be a law that forces another person, or being to marry someone. An animal can not consent to marriage, inanimate objects can not consent to marriage, children do not have developed cognitive thinking, they can not consent to marriage. Two adults no matter their race, gender, or sexuality understand what marriage is, have developed cognitive thinking and can therefore consent to or deny marriage. So just shut up already!!!

    • Di Kelley

      I firmly agree, LMB, that polyamory ought to be legal. Not just for men to marry multiple wives, but for woman to marry multiple husbands, as well, or even for a full on group marriage, if that is what they want. As long as it’s consensual and between adults, it should not be an issue.

      • Steve Brains

        Women having a stable of husbands makes more sense for the woman and the man. he gets a poke her night and 6 poker nights. She gets to love poke her 7 nights a week with a rested, primed sexual beast. Amazon!!! dot cum.

      • Di Kelley

        *eye roll.* Not for sexual reasons, Steve, and that you would even think that says how little some men have progressed intellectually. But for the reason that it reduces infidelity because it’s *not* infidelity if the marriage is open and both spouses know what each other is doing and have consented to such. Monogamy is not a natural human condition, no matter how much we try to force ourselves to conform to it.

      • Steve Brains

        Thank you!!!! it has been inflicted on us for property and political boundaries, by Religion and States alike for long before man Became civilized.

      • Steve Brains

        I am quite advanced sexually. I can’t say I INVENTED sportfuc*ing, but I did revise the rules more than once. I was the guy who tried to get it approved by the United States Olympic Committee in 1990. BUT some Mormon sap who didn’t have 9 wives was such a prick about it…

        DOes prescription medication disqualify an applicant in the SFLA these days? (Sport Fuc*ing League of America)

    • Steve Brains

      I think marriage should be taken for what it actually is. A legal contract between two people. A toaster or a blender, no cat or dog, can sign a contract. So the Rick Santorum DREAM is a farce.

      NO religious marriage CAN BE SANCTIFIED without… state approval and license.

      THUS, ALL religious marriages are ONLY legal as STATE SANCTIONED and LICENSED transations and binding contracts UNDER STATE LAW.

      SO there can be NO LEGITIMATE RELIGIOUS arguments about Gay marriage. Religion is off the table.

  • Fabj

    Very inventive way to try and push your cause! In the end though, you are really just a hateful a-hole.

  • tigerbill

    Many if not most Louisiana and TX residents support fairness. Its the politicians (and some judges) that that need to be dragged kicking and screaming.

  • Catherine Halsey

    Seriously,
    his argument ranks right up there alongside “have you tried just not
    being gay?” Based on the whole concept that if we weren’t able to marry
    other gay people, we’d all turn magically straight, get into straight
    marriages, and making babies like crazy. Yeah, that’s totally sound,
    right there

    • Steve Brains

      Is he suggesting that sexual intercourse for procreation ONLY is this GOAL next step as Governor?

      WOW, then we need more gay people than ever, not only to teach girls in Texas Non Prescription ORAL CONTRACEPTION! To teach ANAL Contraception as well!!!

  • Vivian Sue House Hughes

    The GOP sure spends a lot of time fantasizing about other people’s sex lives.

  • godlessveteran

    “Texas’s marriage laws reduce unplanned out-of-wedlock births and the costs that those births impose on society.” Abortion accomplishes the same thing, but Abbott’s fascist brethren have shut down nearly all the clinics. Hypocritical liar.

    • Steve Brains

      AMEN!!!!

    • You obviously don’t know what the word hypocritical means. There is nothing hypocritical about supporting one method of reaching a given goal and opposing another method of reaching the same goal. For instance,

      I support the passage of years leading to your death but I don’t support murdering you even though these two things lead to the same goal, your death. There is nothing hypocritical about that whatsoever.

      • Steve Brains

        I support ENDING you right now.

      • mosquito

        Like I said, you obviously don’t know what the word hypocritical means. That’s not surprising. After all, you’re a moron.

      • Steve Brains

        BZZZZzzzzzzzzz z z z z z z z z .

      • You’re hopelessly childish. You’ve got absolutely nothing to refute me. Hence, you resort to childish mocking. Scripturally speaking the mocker is one of the most vile persons on earth.

      • Steve Brains

        I am not even bothering. Bomb throwing RED flamers like you aren’t worth My time. It’d be like wiping My ass before I sh*t, completely pointless. ANBd since you NEVER wipe after, I just don’t want anything to dodo with youyou.

      • Steve Brains

        i was trying to tell you you were NOT worth My time and to BZZZZZZzzzzz off.

      • You’re a narcissistic moron. It does not matter a hill of beans what you were trying to tell me about whether I was worth your time.

      • That’s totally irrelevant to our discussion. Try staying on topic. I know it’s difficult to control a mind like yours, which is all over the map, but give it a shot, Shit-for-brains.

      • Steve Brains

        it is the ENTIRE POINT.

      • Steve Brains

        I DO have more than one conversational interest! I am NOT a pre-programmed fartbot ranter. Like you. Which is WHY I am nOT interested.

      • You’re a narcissistic moron. It does not matter a hill of beans whether or not you are interested. By the way, “Like you.” is not a sentence, moron.

      • godlessveteran

        Both of the GOP stances involve eliminating the Constitutional rights of a class of people. The GOP are hypocrites because they (falsely) claim one method will reduce out-of-wedlock births, while banning a method unquestionably proven to do so.

        I’ll just wish you an extended, debilitating, excruciatingly painful terminal condition with your life care at the mercy of the GOP.

      • I do not support the GOP. It has been taken over by a bunch of loony conspiracy theorists.

        As I said, you obviously don’t know what the word hypocritical means. There is absolutely nothing hypocritical about the stance which you describe.

    • You obviously don’t know what the word hypocritical means. There is absolutely nothing hypocritical in opposing one thing that accomplishes a result, A, and supporting another thing that accomplishes the same result, A. If there were, then, according to you, it is hypocritical to wait until someone dies rather than to kill them. After all, both things have the same result; namely, the person is dead. So, your argument is not logical. It’s just plain stupid.

      • godlessveteran

        You make utterly no sense at all. Denying marriage rights and bodily autonomy both in the name of reducing out-of-wedlock births is hypocritical. Whatever point you were trying to make was lost in the crazy spilling out of your keyboard.

  • Angela Monger

    Economic growth is rather dependent upon employment and it seems to me that since there aren’t enough jobs to go around that pay a living wage, it might be a good idea to reduce the population a little by not having as many children. Just a thought there because I seriously doubt the human race is in jeopardy of becoming extinct except maybe due to people doing stupid shit like poisoning the drinking water with toxic waste which seems to be going on at an alarming rate.

  • Ronnie Richmond

    His brief sounds like the ramlings of a old hillbilly and I should know I live in wv and I’ve heard the same argument made by old hillbillies on numerous occasions. I don’t think he is aware that the worlds population is out of control in many country’s and I would say that about the u.s. as well. But I’m guessing that his rediculous argument sounds great too homophobic Texans.

  • Fernando

    Hey, we must remember, that this guy is a Texass reuglycan! Reuglycans in Texass, all drink from the same evil concoction!

  • Queers can’t procreate. It takes a sperm (from a male) and an egg (from a female) to get the job done. Two males or two females cannot now or in the future do what one man and one woman can do. But then you are welcome to try. Using a plastic penis or up the hershey tunnel will not a baby make. Somehow queers failed biology 101.

    • tracey marie

      SO WHAT, AMNY MARRIED PEOPLE DO NOT OR CAN NOT HAVE CHILDREN, WHAT’S YOUR POINT

      • Queers can’t do but one thing…..create a mess they won’t clean up. Even those who can no longer bear children give back to society more than any queer ever will. Queer want something FROM it…NOT what they can give to it. One hell of a big difference but then queers don’t get it. Queers are just that….queers.

  • Harry McMerkin

    There is absolutely nothing about Marriage that the Federal Government should be involved with- period. It has nothing to do with the Constitution, the 14th or the 5th Amendments. It is an issue for the states. Unfortunately the states have abdicated so much power to the federal government that the perverse bastardization of the Constitution’s amendments and the treasonous actions of the liberal activist courts interpret the constitution an some sort of living evolving entity and thus place their own biases onto the American people without due process. They have effectively overturned the will of the people in many states through their repugnant actions.

  • youcantgetridofmethateasy

    How does two zeros with arrows or two zeros with crosses, comingle their genome into a child? The left, in placating to the moneyed gay community (it is after all about the money) are willfully destroying ‘Marriage’ as per their contributor’s directive.

    ————————————————-

    A 2012 speech by Masha Gessen, an author and outspoken activist for the LGBT community, is just now going viral and it includes a theory that many supporters of traditional marriage have speculated about for years: The push for gay marriage has less to do with the right to marry – it is about diminishing and eventually destroying the institution of marriage and redefining the “traditional family.”

    • tracey marie

      so what, the traditional marriage group has a 52% DIVORCE RATE

      • youcantgetridofmethateasy

        And those are Government-officiated, Government-sanctified, Government-licensed couplings usually referenced as ‘Civil Unions’ and occasionally the coopted nomenclature ‘Marriage’. Your example is as Harry Reid says; ‘Dead on Arrival’.

    • miamifella

      How does gay marriage destroy the traditional family? I really am baffled how the fostering of stable households is supposed to destroy stable households? It would seem to me that nudging gay people into a single lifestyle is more likely to destabilize the family.

      This has often been asserted, but no one has ever explained how this works, It seems pretty damn illogical that marriage will destroy marriage.

      I don’t know who Masha Gessen is but I suppose you can find anyone to say anything. I heard a speaker once say that Christians were out to kill Jews and hook black children on drugs. So if we believe Masha Gessen about that conspiracy, maybe this guy was telling the truth about the Christian conspiracy?

      Sometimes you have to use a little common sense.

  • youcantgetridofmethateasy

    You all do realize that this is the Journal for the American Communist Party right?

    • tracey marie

      the 50’s needs their words back

      • youcantgetridofmethateasy

        And the CPUSA doesn’t exist? Seriously? The Communist Party and the Democrat Party are supported by the very same planks (Pillars – if you read German)