Hillary Clinton Compares Russian Invasion of Ukraine to Nazi Aggression

1972632_10152260005727489_671419366_oWhile Nazi comparisons have been far too common in American politics, especially from conservatives toward liberals and President Obama, not all comparisons to Nazi Germany are unfounded.

Take recent comments made by former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton she made during a fundraiser for the Boys and Girls Club of Long Beach where, according to attendees, she spoke in in great length about the Russian invasion of Ukraine.

Harry Saltzgaver, an attendee at the fundraiser said, “She compared issuing Russian passports to Ukrainians with ties to Russia with early actions by Nazi Germany before Hitler began invading neighboring countries.  She said, however, that while that makes people nervous, there is no indication that Putin is as irrational as the instigator of World War II.”

Another attendee, who wished to remain anonymous said, “She talked about how what Putin is doing now is similar to what Hitler did, essentially providing these ethnic Russians in the Crimea region access back to Russia.  And that it was destabilizing.”

Though Clinton was Secretary of State during the Obama administration’s “reset” attempt to repair relations between the two nations, during the 2008 campaign Clinton said of Putin, “He was a KGB agent. By definition, he doesn’t have a soul.”

Now, I know many conservatives are going to call these comments “too little too late” or “incompetent” considering she was Secretary of State during the Obama administration’s attempt to repair relations with Russia.  But like I’ve said before, I’m not going to fault the Obama administration for at least trying to be the “better person” as it relates to Russia.

Though it’s clear now those attempts have failed.

And while I’ve never been a big fan of comparing anything to Nazi Germany, Clinton does make a point that Putin seems to be at least using some of the “destabilizing tactics” the Nazis used to weaken their opponents.

Will Putin’s plan work?  It’s too early to tell.  Though it’s clear that the situation in Ukraine is something that simply cannot be ignored.  But I don’t believe Hillary Clinton was wrong for using a Nazi comparison when speaking about the situation, because it does appear to be a tactic that Putin is using to weaken any kind of Ukrainian resistance.

Allen Clifton

Allen Clifton is a native Texan who now lives in the Austin area. He has a degree in Political Science from Sam Houston State University. Allen is a co-founder of Forward Progressives and creator of the popular Right Off A Cliff column and Facebook page. Be sure to follow Allen on Twitter and Facebook, and subscribe to his channel on YouTube as well.

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  • Saunce

    I miss having Hillary as sec of state.

  • strayaway

    The use of inflammatory language promoting another cold war is not a virtue for someone running for president be it from Hillary or McCain. A new cold war arms race won’t be kind to social service spending.

    Not all Democrats are war mongers of course. Dennis Kucinich was on Bill O’Reilly’s program. O’Reilly sounded like Hillary. Here though are Kucinich’s comments,

    “What I’d do is not have USAID and the National Endowment for Democracy working with U.S. taxpayers’ money to knock off an elected government in Ukraine, which is what they did.” He said the United States should stay out let Ukrainians decide their own future.

    Kucinich called the new unelected rulers of Ukraine “neo-Nazis”. The irony is that Hillary and Kucinich are both making nazi references referring to opposing sides. Maybe they’re both right.

  • HARP2

    GOTP Lemmings thinks it’s funny that soldiers died under LBJ.

    I’m sure he thinks the ones dying today is just as funny..

  • duif73

    I can only imagine this is a joke….. if leaders in the US really are this stupid and assume the public is this stupid…then.. well, nothing can be said then I guess.

  • Michael Drzyzga

    Could she have found any other historical example of this sort of destabilizing tactic besides Nazi Germany? Good rule of thumb – avoid Nazi comparisons unless genocide is involved. Is that really that hard?

  • Sandy Greer

    The only comparison I would make is the Russian invasion of Ukraine is similar to the German invasion of Poland: Both due to trumped up charges.

    It’s difficult for the US to seek ‘high ground’…after our invasion of Lie-Raq on trumped up charges.

    • Pipercat

      Very similar to the actions taken by Germany, against Poland, in August 1939.

      • Gary Menten

        No, very, very different. Yes, the Germans staged an incident on the Polish border as a pretext for invasion, but what followed was an outright invasion of most of Poland with massive bloodshed and the Germans occupying two thirds of the country while the Russians gobbled up the other third. 66,000 Polish troops were killed along with at least 150,000 civilians.

        This, if anything, looks much more like the German reoccupation of the Rhineland or possibly the occupation of the Sudetenland in 1938. Not that these things, especially the former were okay, they weren’t, but to compare this to the invasion of Poland is very much a false equivalency.

      • Pipercat

        The Gleiwitz incident, and other events, are what I’m referring to, not the subsequent Fall Weiss invasion of Poland. That’s why I was quite specific in referencing August 1939. I find the incident similar on two fronts. The false pretense of protecting indigenous ethnic populations and the level of rhetoric used by the aggressors. I also find it interesting that the contemporary Russians forces are in country without insignia. Creating an illusion of local involvement and not from foreign interference. It also parallels the the ultimatum of 1939 which demanded the return of Danzig and end of the Polish corridor, hence the parallel to the Crimea. The 1938 annexation of Czechoslovakia is also a good comparison. Both have similarities that are worthy of note. I was agreeing with Sandy; moreover, since the endgame is still in doubt, an invasion by Vlad is still an option.

      • Gary Menten

        I agree that the issue is still in doubt, however the way I see it, the Russians are simply behaving in the same way they have for the last 300 years. To them, this piece of real estate MUST stay within the Russian orbit for reasons of national security in the same way that the US and UK decided that Greece had to at all costs remain in the western orbit during the Greek Civil War and the way the US meddled into the affairs of Banana Republics to keep them in line.

        During the Cold War, in which the US and Russia were ideological adversaries, no-one really questioned this and everyone understood that this was the set of rules the Cold War was played by. The rules haven’t really changed. Instead ideologies have been largely replaced by nationalism.

        This is not to say I endorse Russian actions; only that much more severe crises were managed during the Cold War without everything going to hell in a hand basket.

      • Pipercat

        Absolutely, what I find curious is why Vlad, like Dolph, needed to justify the actions. The Crimea was sort of a concession to The Ukraine back when the Soviet Union evaporated. The Russian military installations on the peninsula are a somewhat-reasonable justification for Russia to take control of the region. My gut feeling is that Vlad is testing the west. Also, the the Ukrainians are broke. Here comes the west to financially bail out the new regime and really, who benefits? Vlad and his impalers!!! I stated elsewhere this is a chess game.

        Just some nosh for thought:
        Vlad took a bath during Sochi and the last thing he needs is an interruption to his cash flow. Wouldn’t it be ironic if this is just, “business is business?”

      • Gary Menten

        Dolph was a master manipulator and showman who understood that his control of the state rested largely on his ability to tap into German nationalism and anger. He also grasped I think that the idea of another war with Germany was unappealing to France and England and for a while, it worked. He overplayed his hand however.

        Allusions to 1939 should not be taken too far. Russia wants to be respected by the West, but they have no intention of marching on Paris. They will not tolerate however, anyone screwing in their backyard and this is a reminder.

        Kosovo / Serbia was a much bigger crisis in some ways as NATO actively bombed Serbia, which the Russians in their self-appointed role as the protector of all Slavs very much opposed. As both NATO and Russia put troops on the ground in Serbia, there was a real possibility for someone acting irresponsibly to provoke a major incident, but again, nothing happened, though I suspect that a secret deal between Russia and NATO was struck giving the Russians a free hand to flatten Chechnya in return for their abandonment of the Serbs.

        This too is how the game is played.

      • Pipercat

        Vlad is pretty Dolphy in the same fashion. He’s just not as good at it as Dolph was… and he too may overplay his hand. Things are the brink of spiraling out of control. The uprising in The Ukraine was organic and surprised a lot of people including the Russians and the West. The Black sea fleet is based in the Crimea and those bases are more important than the Russian speaking eastern population. They (The Russian speaking population), on the other hand, have begun their own nascent insurgency. Whether it’s being orchestrated by Moscow, remains to be seen. I fear after the days events, The Ukraine will likely split in two and then the western portion will tell Vlad to stuff it. Creating a new set of problems. Again, an eerie similarity to events of the last century of national pie carving, if you will.

        In the final analysis, the Russians may indeed overplay their hand, especially if the country splits. Similarities to 1939 are more in the form of a loose template and of course, very conditional and not precise. I fear we may be possibly seeing the creation of a new, de facto, iron curtain that will be just a few hundred miles east of the original. These events may not be like the beginning of that very hot war, but maybe the start of a new cold war. The threat of the sanctions war has started and the intransigence is taking hold. One would think, after the events of the last century, Europe would have had enough of this shit…

      • Gary Menten

        Europeans are unfortunately extremely nationalistic when prodded and have a tendency getting very nasty with each other when the shit hits the fan. If there’s a model here however, I doubt the 20th C will provide one since the 20th C was characterized by ideological splits which is something largely absent from this scenario. On the other hand, the 19th C and it’s rampant nationalism, the tendency of big empires to fight short, decisive wars and gobble up little provinces here and there, may provide a better blueprint.

      • Pipercat

        Not a very comforting notion, to say the least..

      • Gary Menten

        European history, in which I am very well versed, has never been a source of encouragement to me.

      • Pipercat

        Indeed, dreadful episodes of mechanical mayhem, tyranny and extermination. In a never-ending cycle it seems.

      • Gary Menten

        That America’s founding fathers were conscious of European history to that point is the entire reason that they wrote the Constitution and Bill Of Rights the way they did. Unfortunately, there seems to be no shortage of Americans hell bent on circumventing these constitutional safeguards emulate 17th C (or earlier) Europe.

        Bad idea.

  • True White Republican

    Communist liberals are even worse than Nazis. Consider the fact that if Germany had won WWII we wouldn’t have a Kenyam Muslim communist nigger in the White House, our schools would still be good without niggers in them and niggers would still be in their place like the useless garbage God created them as.

    • Gary Menten

      Zontar…the mothership wants you back. Please go home.

      • True White Republican

        Fuck you with a niggers dick faggot.

      • Gary Menten

        Careful now Zontar, or your momma’s gonna come wash your mouth out with soap.

    • IJR

      You are a liberal. You support marijuana prohibition just like Obama does.

      You support bigger government like Obama does.
      You support limited state’s rights like Obama does.

      You and Obama agree on a lot of things.
      Are you a black, Kenyan, Muslim too?