I Have a Message for Anyone Trying to Compare Al Franken to Donald Trump and Roy Moore

I’m hoping that discussing this and getting your feedback will help us all understand it a little better and clear up the differences between the behavior of these men.

Al Franken kissed Leeann Tweeden, too aggressively, during a rehearsal for a skit she agreed to do. Upon doing so she pushed him away, he stopped — and that was that. Based on her account of what happened, Franken pushed things too far, especially if he used his tongue. If she felt Franken’s kiss was too much, then it was.

However, my main issue lies in her accusation that he groped her. Looking at the picture that has been made public — he’s not touching her. You can clearly see space between his left hand and her body, while you can see shadow underneath his right. While the picture is made to appear as if he’s grabbing her chest in some dumb attempt at humor, his hands aren’t actually on her body. Groping is defined as to “feel or fondle,” so I’m not entirely sure how he did either of those if we’re going by the photo.

Was it childish and a really bad idea? Of course it was. But if that’s the evidence for the claim that Franken physically groped and touched her, that’s not what the picture shows. I’m not making excuses for the poor taste of the photo, or the lame attempt by Franken to be funny, but groping, by definition, requires actual physical contact. Unless that happened after the photo was taken, the photo itself doesn’t show any.

Franken’s kiss was too aggressive and she felt humiliated by the picture. Both were clearly terrible mistakes by Franken and, no, claiming ignorance or that he didn’t mean anything nefarious by either doesn’t excuse how his behavior made her feel.

He was wrong and pushed things too far — end of story.

Though I am a little bit conflicted with all of this considering, following her coming public with all of this, these photos surfaced where Ms. Tweeden appears to be grabbing another male by the butt, kissing Franken during one of their performances in front of other people, as well as this video where she slaps the late Robin Williams on the backside after slightly straddling him.

Would she have been okay with Franken, Williams, or that male guitarist grabbing her butt? I don’t know the answer to that question.

Since this news broke, Franken’s repeatedly apologized, including sending a personal apology to Ms. Tweeden, and she accepted. He’s taken full responsibility for his poor decisions, while also agreeing with other top Democrats that there should be an ethics investigation into himself.

Granted this is just my opinion, but based on everything that I’ve seen, this seems more like a one-off mistake by Franken that he owned up to, apologized for, and the victim accepted that apology as heartfelt. As of writing this, there’s been absolutely no evidence that this was a pattern of behavior by the senator.

Yet there are people out there actually trying to lump him in with people like Donald Trump and Roy Moore?

They are out of their damn minds.

At least 16 different women have accused Trump of sexual harassment and/or assault. We’re not talking about overly-aggressive kisses women agreed to as part of a dumb skit, or ridiculous photographs taken while they slept. The allegations against Trump include him forcing himself on them, walking in on them while they were dressing and ogling them, pinning them up against walls, and making lewd comments about whether or not they were wearing any underwear after he had shoved his hands up their skirts.

Obviously, Trump’s denied every single one of these allegations. He’s accused the women of lying, being out for money, said some weren’t attractive enough for him to have assaulted or harassed, were part of a conspiracy against his campaign, and even threatened to sue them. He basically tried to publicly shame, slander, and bully them into going away or not speaking out against him.

Meanwhile, Roy Moore has been accused by multiple women not just of simple sexual assault — that would be bad enough — but of being a sexual predator of underage girls. The youngest woman claiming she was only 14 when Moore sexually assaulted her.

Since this scandal first broke, stories have sprung up all over the place from people who remember Moore, who was in his 30’s at the time, trying to pick up teenage girls at a local mall. One even claimed, though it hasn’t been confirmed, that she got him banned from the mall for harassing young girls.

As of writing this, I believe we’re at nine different women who’ve made accusations against Moore.

Yet, much like Trump, Moore’s denied any wrongdoing and publicly slandered these women as liars who are — wait for it — part of the media and establishment’s efforts to bring him down. That’s rather interesting considering at least two of the women are self-professed Republicans who voted for Trump, which makes it a little difficult to believe that they’re “working with the media and establishment to bring him down” to help Democrats.

Then again, when does anything Republicans say anymore actually make sense?

Between Trump and Moore, roughly 25 different women have accused them of some sort of sexual misconduct — in Moore’s case when they were underage. All the while, both men have claimed that none of these accusations are true and that the women are liars, and they’ve publicly tried to shame and silence them.

Yet some people want to put Franken into the same company as these two predators?

I’m not here to make excuses for Franken. What he did was wrong, even if he didn’t mean anything by it. He apologized to his victim, and owned up to his mistake. Again, as of now, there’s no evidence that this was part of some sort of a pattern of disgusting behavior from the senator from Minnesota.

But anyone trying to compare his behavior to that of Trump or Moore loses all credibility — there’s no comparison.

Al Franken made a dumb move, admitted to it and apologized for it, while agreeing his behavior should be investigated. That’s how people who don’t have anything to hide behave.

On the other hand, based on the stories of their accusers, Donald Trump and Roy Moore are apparently serial sexual predators who aggressively harassed and/or attacked their victims, in Moore’s case allegedly while they were underage, who’ve refused to take any responsibility for their actions, claimed their victims are all lying, and attacked anyone who dares to suggest their behavior should be looked into.

If you want to compare scumbags like Harvey Weinstein, Louis C.K., or Kevin Spacey to Trump and Moore, then I think that’s a valid comparison.

That said, while Franken’s behavior was bad, it doesn’t compare to the accusations Trump and Moore are facing.

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Allen Clifton

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  • guest

    This wasn’t a one off mistake. This was the path of least resistance to shut down what could have been weeks of hand twisting and finger pointing had Franken sought to publicly dispute the accusation. Current investigations in to Tweeden accusation are revealing some disturbing information. Just because a woman makes a accusation doesn’t give it a free ride from scrutiny.

    The picture of the so called grouping. If you enlarge it you will see that Frankens hands are not touching her. Data information embedded in the photo indicates it was modified on 7/1/2009, the day that Norm Coleman conceded the Senatorial Race to Franken-https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/931413204504334336. This link goes into detail about data embedded in film so I won’t try and explain it. The writer of this site says the photo was altered. Also, Franken’s Military Escort officer on the USO tour put out this tweet:

    She says the groping took place on Christmas Eve but embedded in the original photos data, photo actually taken per data on original photo at 5:21pm
    on 12/21/2006. Late afternoon.

    As far as the kiss, it was written into the script and rehearsed. She had no complaints at the time and here is the kiss she was referring to: https://postimg.org/image/p87ea443b/.
    Notice the arm wrapped around Franken’s neck and her body leaning forward. It doesn’t look like she’s struggling to me.

    On this same tour where she says she was groped-she did some groping of her own:
    Did she apologize to this guy? This twitter account has some interesting pic of her. (not the half nude stuff)

    Recent tweets have come to light which propose Roger Stone had advance knowledge of the above scandal- http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/360726-stone-appeared-to-know-franken-allegation-was-coming.

    Tweeden also has some interesting ties. She is a journalist of sorts who just signed a book deal with Sinclair. She is a staunch Trump supporter, has been on Hannity a number of times and is a right wing radio personality. I don’t know about the validity of this information but it’s very interesting: http://polipace.com/2017/11/17/leeann-tweeden-says-accepts-al-frankens-apology-claims-planned-attacks/.

    I believe in one of her interviews Tweeden says she hadn’t seen Franken since the incident in 2006. If you look through the photos on this twitter page you will see a pic of here at the 2009 USO Metro Awards Dinner honoring Al Franken.

    Considering Roger Stone and InfoWars posted online about this the day before it broke. My BS meter is waving red flags.

    Sorry about all the links.

    • saffiregal

      Excellent information and links.

    • Andy

      well said but there are very few that understand the way you found the info. you gave here that being said. I think the ones or some of them that took the time to read it would not believe it, to bad it has excellent info it.

      • guest

        People who don’t understand it don’t want to for a number of reasons:
        -They are trolls and their paycheck depends on them not understanding.
        -They are right wing idiots. You can’t fix stupid.
        -The information doesn’t fit their comfort zone.
        -Blowing Tweeden’s accusations to bits demonstrates the length the alt-reich will go for a distraction from Trump-Russia Gate.
        -There will be more attacks on Democratic’s especially the ones that are vocal in the Trump-Russia investigations.

        A Coordinated Hitjob Against Dems is Underway and Al Franken Won’t be the Last: https://m.dailykos.com/stories/2017/11/16/1716316/-A-Coordinated-Hitjob-Against-Dems-is-Underway-and-Al-Franken-Won-t-be-the-Last

      • saffiregal

        Typical modern day Republican party – they can only win if they cheat.

  • TessinBoca

    Al Franken is wise to ask for an ethics investigation-I noticed,on The View, that Tweedan hesitated and stumbled when asked if she’d testify before Congress-bet she’d hesitate to take a lie detector test, too. Kept saying, “ya know” like those telling verbose lies.

  • guest

    Two interesting tweets fro people who were there:

    Al Franken photo staged according to photographer who took the photo.

    Photographer: [S]he was playing dead and SHE wanted him to ‘revive’ her.
    I took the picture it was a funny moment everyone was smiling having a
    good time
    Leeann Tweeden is a trump supporter


    Soldier who said he was Frankens security escort the entire time, and even in the bathroom says she’s lying!

    • saffiregal

      Good journalistic research. Thank you for linking on this site.

  • Keith A Richey

    Your bias is so blatant and obvious it is really depressing. How many women as of today 11/27/2017 have now accused franken? How many does it take until you say hmmmm might be a scumbag. It seems you have a number for the President, so what is it for franken?

    • guest

      1 woman named Tweeden whose has been shown to be a liar by her own word. Why do you think she made the accusation and as soon as Franken requested an Ethics Investigation she quickly accepted his apology with the disclaimer let the people of Minnesota decide? She doesn’t want to be put under oath and asked questions by Franken’s attorney. Plain and simple, Tweeden is lying. Look at what she is wearing in the picture. A Flap Jacket-Body Armor. Its suppose to stop bullets so it definitely stops hands so Franken’s hands were no where near her chest. Also, Franken’s military escort said it was photo set up that she [participated in and knew what was going to happen. https://www.facebook.com/madprogress/posts/1607813639277308

      The other woman-unsubstantiated. no proof other than she said it happened. 2 other who don’t want to be identified. They are moot points. You say something that is going to ruin someone’s life-you need to step up full face and name. How would you like it if someone accused you of something but didn’t want to identify themselves. So you have Tweeden who based on the information that she supplied in that photo given to the media, she said this happened on Christmas Eve yet the info embedded in the film says Dec 21. Lie number 1. The Kiss, lie number 2. She knew about, approved the skit. She also told the media that the kiss was written just for her in that skit but others on the tour said the skit was written 3 years prior and performed before.

      Tweeden is a birther, a right wing conspiracy theorist, a right wing trump devotee who by the end of the weekend she made her announcement had secured a book deal with Sinclair.