If We’re Going to Monitor a Group of People, Let’s Start with White Male Gun Owners

facebook-gun-control-nowWithin the last few months we’ve had leading Republican presidential candidates essentially call for the United States to start tracking and monitoring Muslim communities. Mind you, not “radical Muslims” – all Muslims. Donald Trump has even gone as far as to say that we should ban Muslims from entering the United States altogether.

Their reasoning for such absurd suggestions is, of course, in response to terrorism. Except, in this country, white males gun owners are, by far, the top demographic when it comes to carrying out horrific acts of violence.

In San Bernardino, two terrorists killed fourteen people before being killed themselves. That’s the shooting Republicans focus on relentlessly. Meanwhile, not even a week before that, a Christian terrorist (a white male) opened fire on a Planned Parenthood in Colorado Springs. Not only did he kill three people, but one of his victims was a police officer. Then to top it all off, after being arrested he cited Republican anti-Planned Parenthood propaganda as part of his motivation for committing mass murder.

Though you’ll never see anyone from the GOP say much about that.

Then let’s not forget about Charleston where one young white male slaughtered nine African-Americans while they were at church. While Republicans obviously condemned the shooting, they did absolutely nothing to address gun violence after the fact. Now think about if a Muslim had walked into a Baptist church and gunned down nine people. I’m absolutely sure the GOP response would have been much different.

Then there’s always the anti-government lunatics like we saw in Oregon a few months ago. While not all of these idiots are white, nearly all of them are. In fact, as someone who’s grown up in Texas where anti-government gun fanatics are in abundance, I would say 95% of these “militia” clowns are white males.

Imagine what Republicans would being saying if large groups of Muslims bragged openly about their arsenal of weapons, while also professing their disdain for the United States government. To say nothing about the fact that most of these anti-government “militia” whack jobs aren’t exactly opposed to the idea of a potential violent uprising against the United States government.

Though the truth is, the vast majority of the mass shootings and anti-government rhetoric we see in this country comes from white males.

Does terrorism pose a threat to this country? Of course it does. But it’s pure hypocrisy the way in which Republicans react to these acts of violence. Whenever the shooter is Muslim, there are calls to ban Muslims, monitor mosques and pushes for countless other unconstitutional suggestions. Yet when one of the seemingly endless list of non-Muslim mass shootings occur, mostly carried out by white males, Republicans do absolutely nothing. In fact, they typically use these tragedies to push more pro-gun propaganda.

Even following the San Bernardino shooting when Democrats tried to get a loophole closed that allows people on the no-fly list (aka potential terrorists) to purchase guns, Republicans refused to close it. There’s nothing like saying we need to stop terrorism – while simultaneously protecting a loophole that allows potential terrorists to legally purchase firearms.

So my suggestion to Republicans is this: Count the number of mass shootings and lives taken at the hands of white, male gun owners and compare it to how many people have been killed by Muslims in the United States over the last decade. Then after you tally all those numbers and compare the two, then monitor the group that’s responsible for the greater loss of life.

Spoiler Alert: It’s not going to be Muslims.

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Allen Clifton

Allen Clifton is a native Texan who now lives in the Austin area. He has a degree in Political Science from Sam Houston State University. Allen is a co-founder of Forward Progressives and creator of the popular Right Off A Cliff column and Facebook page. Be sure to follow Allen on Twitter and Facebook, and subscribe to his channel on YouTube as well.

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  • Wendy Goff-Hawkes

    Those pesky facts!

  • JAFischer

    A small group of Muslims could talk like our ‘patriotic’ pseudo-militia jerks and start Republicans hollering. Heck, it would only take one. Even though it’s these American-born anti-government types who are the greatest danger.

    • Bierwagon

      lol..yea, right. I’m sorry you really believe that..lmao..Its lefty liberals who pose the danger to America.

      • JAFischer

        We’re not the ones advocating for the incarceration and destruction of entire peoples because of a few terrorists. We’re not the ones passing laws restricting people’s rights because we find their biology ‘icky’.

        You’re scared of a world in which being white, male, Christian, and heterosexual is no longer ‘the norm’. You have to share it with other people who are just as human as you are, and for some reason, you think that means you’ll have less.

  • Bierwagon

    And y’all claim the “Right wing” is unhinged…

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  • William Patrick Bower

    Diversity and liberal are code words for anti-white anti-male. We have it figured out.

  • Joseph Smith

    Yawn. Yes, monitor white people and carefully document all the crimes they commit. Then compare those rates, representative to population with other populations.

    Or, realize that the West was created by whites and anyone here enjoying what whites have built is benefiting from white privilege. Maybe people who don’t like that should leave?

  • strayaway

    The New York Times already figured out how many people have been killed by Muslims (45) and non-Muslims (48) for ideological reasons in the US since 9/11. Add another 2,996 killed by Muslims for ideological reasons on 9/11. The Census Bureau indicated that about 1% of US residents are Muslim. Do the math. It works out that Muslims have killed about 100 times as many PER CAPITA for ideological reasons as non-Muslims in the US since 9/11 or 10,000 times as many PER CAPITA including 9/11.

    Other notes: Under Obama, US gun ownership has increased by 140% while the gun homicide rate has declined almost 50% per capita since 1993. Assuming that a lot of those guns have been purchased by evil white, male, gun owners, the article fails to account for why gun deaths have been plummeting even though there are substantially more guns. Box cutter/ airplane deaths by religious Muslims took a spike under Bush however.

    • JAFischer

      So 1.6 billion people are murderers and terrorists based on the actions of a tiny fraction of that number?

      By that logic, all white American males are serial killers, since the United States leads the world in serial murder, and most serial murderers are white men.

      Hell, by that logic, we are ALL murderers and terrorists! Oh, and now we’re back to the Christian obsession with sin and how we’re all sinners unless we get right with Jesus.

      Am I close?

      • strayaway

        Not close or even very clever. A better analogy is that some people are carriers of a disease. As “carriers”, they do not exhibit any symptoms but can transmit the disease. Islam is sort of like that. The vast majority of Muslims we let into the country are peaceful. However, a minority, a much larger minority than found in other contemporary religions, do things like blow up buildings and shoot up discos and cartoon offices. The amazing thing is that some of their children born here including the Boston bombers, the San Bernadino husband, Omar, and all the Somali boys who leave the Twin Cities to attend Jihadi finishing schools were the US citizen children of vetted Muslim immigrants. As ISIS leader Abu Bakr Al-Baghdadi explains, Muhammed “commanded you to fast in one verse, and commanded you with jihād and fighting in dozens of verses? Where are you in relation to your Prophet (peace be upon him), whom you claim to emulate, and who spent his whole life (peace be upon him) as a mujahadid for the cause of Allah, fighting his enemies?” I think the key word is “emulate”. A small fraction of Muslims do emulate Muhammed and to the extent they do, people die. That quote is not my take but young Muslim guys all over the world sometimes do try, in their understanding, to emulate the founder of their religion.

        Contrast Abu Bakr Al-Baghdadi’s take on Islam with that of Hillary: “Let’s be clear: Islam is not our adversary. Muslims are peaceful and tolerant people and have nothing whatsoever to do with terrorism.” –Hillary Clinton Nov. 2015

      • JAFischer

        So you damn the whole for the actions of a few. And I suppose you’re one of those who thinks that only Christians can be patriotic and that only cisgender heterosexuals deserve to be treated like human beings.

      • strayaway

        No one is being damned. The 1st. Amendment continues to guarantee religious freedom in the US to all religions. Congress continues to constitutionally be in charge of establishing a uniform naturalization policy or at least it is supposed to be. There have always been foreign winners and losers based on what quotas Congress decides. FDR suspended immigration from Axis countries after Pearl Harbor. Was it fair to forbid eg. Italian immigration because of something Japan did? Maybe not but it was deemed prudent from the standpoint of US security.

  • SoCalCop

    This is priceless. So they want to monitor white males with guns, but fail to mention that ALL the shooters they cite were left leaning democrats. The one person they hang their hat on, is just another murderer that, not just conservatives, but also those of us in the Pro-Life community, condemned.

    So they claim that white males with guns should be monitored because…we are as radical as violent Muslim terrorists? Really? Do those of us who are conservative white males want to introduce oppressive laws that match that of Muslim sharia law? Do those of us, who are conservative white males, want to control other peoples lives in any way? Comparing the enumerated rights outlined in the Second Amendment, with the made up “rights” of the Homosexual subculture, are constitutional rights subject to the whims of liberals because they are so scary? Could it be that the violence actually comes from liberals and their feelings of entitlement? 80% of incarcerated criminals are center left in their beliefs, so I’d say that’s a BIG YES!

    I am a conservative Christian white male…who served my country in the military…served my community as a police officer…and owns a number of firearms that, in one case, was used to defend my family from someone who unlawfully entered my home, and was used as my duty weapon to serve my community. But interestingly enough, unlike firearms in the hands of the liberal mass shooters, NONE of my firearms have killed a single person. In fact, to date, with the exception of my 30+ year old shotgun, that I used for quail hunting in Texas while stationed at Ft. Hood, in the Second Armored Division, with the 502nd Military Police Company, NONE of my firearms have killed game…yet. I intend to take my AR15, with a five round magazine, because that’s what the law allows, on a pig hunt. But I digress.

    The liberals, like Allen Clifton, claim to be oh so open minded. You know, they think they are the defenders of freedom and diversity. But present an argument they disagree with, or oppose an argument they can’t defend through logic, and see how quickly they become less open minded, less about freedom, and less the defenders of diversity. And that’s what we really are talking about here.

    It’s kind of funny…actually, it’s very interesting…there are liberal gun owners here in California. I know this because I have interacted with them, and even though we have differences of opinions on pretty much every other social issue, we do agree that their fellow liberals are out of bounds on the issue of firearms, because they have no idea what they are talking about. When it come to firearms, liberal firearm owners are as conservative about firearms as any right wing conservative. And that’s a good thing. Now all I have to do is help them understand why voting democrat is BAD for their second amendment rights. But hey, baby steps, right?

    • JAFischer

      If you think we’re all axe-crazy killers, why do you provoke us?

      Because you know it isn’t true.

      • SoCalCop

        Because I can bring a gun to an axe fight. 🙂

  • Wayne Cummins

    Yeah look out for those crazy white men.

    Rizwan Farook and Tashfeen Malik killed 14 people and seriously injured 22 in a terrorist attack at the Inland Regional Center in San Bernardino, California, which consisted of a mass shooting and an attempted bombing.

    Aaron Alexis, a black man , killed twelve people and injured three others inside the Washington Navy Yard.

    L. Goh, killed seven at Oikos University, a Korean Christian college in Oakland, California.

    Mixed-race, half-black Chris Harper-Mercer killed 9 people at Oregon community college.

    Radcliffe Haughton, a black man, walked into the Azana Salon and Spa where his estranged wife works and shoots and kills her and two other women, wounding four others.

    Mixed-race Elliot Rodger, killed six people, three of them at a college campus in Santa Barbara.

    Jiverly Antares Wong shot and killed 13 people in Binghamton, New York

    Eduardo Sencion shot up an IHOP in Carson City, Nevada, killing three National Guardsmen and a 67-year old woman

    Nidal Malik Hasan killed 13 soldiers at Fort Hood

    Seung-Hui Cho, killed 32 people at Virginia Tech in 2007.

    Salvador Tapia killed six employees at the Windy City Core Supply warehouse in Chicago in 2003

    Sulejman Talovic killed five people and wounded four others at a Salt Lake City shopping mall.
    .
    Jennifer San Marco, a former US Postal Service employee, shot and killed six people at a mail processing plant in Goleta, California on January 30, 2006

    Byran Uyesugi, killed seven coworkers at a Xerox Corp. warehouse
    in Honolulu as they gathered for a meeting to discuss his light workload.

    Colin Ferguson, a black man, killed six passengers and wounded 19 others on a Long Island Rail Road commuter train in 1993.

  • Darrian

    Every thing below me is bullshit….move on nothing to see..

  • Paul DeBecker

    According to FBI stats, banning black males from owning pistols would virtually end gun related murders.

    • JAFischer

      Someone’s been reading fake news again.

      Go make sure your sheets are blindingly white for your next rally.

  • Faggory Daggory Doo!

    If We’re Going to Monitor a Group of People, Let’s Start with the Jews. maybe a star of David with an RFID chip?

    • JAFischer

      And here comes the ‘I hate Jews’ comment.

      • Faggory Daggory Doo!

        I dont hate Jews, just belive they should be monitored. we should all be concerned after the crash of 08.

      • JAFischer

        It was all those ‘good Christians’ playing with bullshit they barely understood that tanked the economy.

        But you keep on looking in all the wrong places all you want. That’s what the folks who talk about Jesus (while shredding safety regulations and our secure retirements) want you to do.

      • Faggory Daggory Doo!

        What makes you think I’m some fucking Christian?

      • JAFischer

        The anti-Semitic bullshit. And your alias doesn’t exactly say ‘Non-European’ to me.

      • Faggory Daggory Doo!

        Im non European

      • JAFischer

        You can still be anti-Semitic.

      • Faggory Daggory Doo!

        so what?

      • JAFischer

        Which tells me all I need to know. You’re a whiner who blames all the wrong people for everything wrong in your life.

      • Faggory Daggory Doo!

        calling me a white, you must be a JEW

  • Noishkel

    Only in America does a HATE CRIME committed against the GLBT community by a SUICIDE VEST WEARING RELIGIOUS FANATIC that the FBI INVESTIGATED and then CLEARED multiple times stimulate a conversation about the AR-15 rifle. Instead of perhaps HOMOPHOBIA or how INEPT our security services are.