If You Thought The Hobby Lobby Decision Was Bad, It Could Get Even Worse

roflbot032714Today’s Supreme Court ruling on Hobby Lobby was bad, but it isn’t the end of the world like a lot of the media is currently proclaiming. Ideally, all companies would be required to provide any and all types of medical coverage as mandated in the Affordable Care Act, but unfortunately that’s not going to be the case.

First of all, let’s look at the argument made in the Hobby Lobby case:

Hobby Lobby and Conestoga Wood objected to a handful of contraceptives that they speculate can block a fertilized egg, which is neither documented in the science nor the medical definition of abortion. Other for-profit plaintiffs object to any birth control coverage at all.

The case was the first time the Affordable Care Act returned to the nation’s highest Court since it was first largely upheld as constitutional, and was argued by current Solicitor General Don Verrilli and former Bush administration solicitor general Paul Clement. (Source)

While the decision is troubling and potentially opens up further claims of religious exemption by other companies from the requirement to provide contraceptive coverage to their employees, it applies solely to contraceptives and not other claims of religious freedom such as the right to discriminate based on race, gender identity, etc. Religious, non-profit employers were already exempt under provisions laid out in the Affordable Care act and this ruling extended it to privately-held corporations like Hobby Lobby or Conestoga Wood who also claimed the requirement went against their personal beliefs.

Many Americans were already without the coverage due to religious exemptions, and so as bad of a ruling as this was, it’s not the end of the world:

A federal judge has estimated that a third of Americans are not subject to the requirement that their employers provide coverage for contraceptives. Small employers need not offer health coverage at all; religious employers like churches are exempt; religiously affiliated groups may claim an exemption; and some insurance plans that had not previously offered the coverage are grandfathered in.

The ACLU is correct in this statement, but at the same time, I believe that the government can provide coverage for those who are locked out by their employer. Obviously, this is not an ideal situation but one we will have to deal with so long as we have a conservative Supreme Court.

“This is a deeply troubling decision. For the first time, the highest court in the country has said that business owners can use their religious beliefs to deny their employees a benefit that they are guaranteed by law,” said Louise Melling, deputy legal director of the ACLU. “Religious freedom is a fundamental right, but that freedom does not include the right to impose beliefs on others. In its ruling today, the Court simply got it wrong.” (Source)

The question is now, are we going to see more decisions like this come out of the Supreme Court? Based off their track record, I’m going to say yes – and it could get even worse. Take into consideration the fact that two of the more liberal judges, Breyer and Ginsberg, are expected to retire within the next couple of years. Now, couple that with a very possible takeover of the US Senate by Republicans and heaven forbid, a GOP takeover of the White House in 2016, and you’re looking at potentially decades of a conservative Supreme Court that would make Roberts and Alito look like flaming liberals. As my friend James Schlarmann from The Political Garbage Chute points out, every single vote in favor of Hobby Lobby came from judges appointed by conservative presidents.

Not a single justice appointed by either President Bill Clinton or President Barack Obama sided with Hobby Lobby. It was indeed only the justices appointed by socially conservative presidents who voted to keep women trapped in a bygone era. This shouldn’t be a surprise to anyone, because both sides of the aisle have been saying for the last few election cycles how important it is with our aging Supremes to have someone in the position to nominate justices of an ideological bent they agree with, and the proof of that concept is in Citizens United, McCutcheon v. FEC, and now the Hobby Lobby case. These narrow decisions will have a lasting impact on American society, and they are decisions made by men who have not been in power for decades in some cases, a half decade in one case. (Source)

Also consider the fact that the balance of the Supreme Court as it stands can be traced back to the 2004 presidential election where George W. Bush won by only 35 electoral votes. If John Kerry had won, the Supreme Court would be solidly liberal and today’s outcome would likely have been different. Let that be a reminder to each and every one of us that no matter what the voices of apathy say, both parties are not the same and every vote in every election counts.

The takeaway from this is that the Hobby Lobby decision is bad, but it could have been a lot worse.

So, what can you do to express your outrage? You can make sure to vote this coming November, and here’s what’s at stake besides 2 future seats on the Supreme Court:

—All 435 seats of the U.S. House of Representatives

—33 seats in the U.S. Senate

—46 State Legislatures

—38 State and Territorial Governorships.

Today’s ruling by the Supreme Court on Hobby Lobby is only a hint of what we could see if liberals remain apathetic and on the sidelines of elections because they didn’t get their ideal candidate. If we want to change the rulings that are coming out of the Supreme Court, the only way to do that is by voting. No amount of petitions or anything else replaces the need to show up on Election Day, and today’s decisions are proof of that.


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  • Dave

    I know that it is illegal for an employer to ask you religious affiliation at an interview, but with this ruling, can a possible future employee ask the affiliation of the owners or CEO. I mean, if their beliefs can effect your benefits at that company, I think you should know.

    • Me

      I said the same thing to my mother this morning. If I go on job interviews, do I need to ask the affiliation and the effect on my medical choices? I said, “Watch me not get hired at best, sued at worst.”

    • Bine646

      Look at your benefits package before accepting the job offer. But if you are working for free contraception you have other issues

      • Dave

        But where does it stop….if they can rule by their beliefs, that can be a scary situation. There was a time when religion ruled….it was called the Dark Ages.

      • Bine646

        Dont work for their company then pal, its pretty simple. Remember this is hobbylobby, you can find another minimum wage job

      • Dave

        Number one…I’m not your pal…and as I said, where will it stop? People….sorry corporations will use this to just save money.
        Number two, I have 2 businesses and would NEVER impose my personal beliefs on my employees.

      • Bine646

        What happened to the days when the government didnt tell business how to run?

        The Supreme Court mades its decision, get over it.

      • Dave

        It happened when they decided that laws should be made about religion….and people, oh I mean corporations, can force their beliefs on everyone else.

      • Bine646

        Under Obama corporations profits are up 184% while real weekly earnings are up 0.2%, looks like that trends continuing

      • Dave

        And I’m sure that you are posting on other threads that Obama is wrecking the economy….let’s face it and cut the shit….you hate Obama, no matter what he does, you hate him…you take your talking points from the likes of Rush, Hannity, Coulter and their ilk. Go to their hatewing sites and gloat with your fellow uninformed sheep. Keep following the talking points that benefit the 1% while taking a dump on the middle class….they have you so well trained that you won’t even see it coming.

      • Bine646

        The economy is shrinking at the rate seem during the great recession of 09.

        Obama is killing the middle class, why corporations n the market r at record highs while we feel the crunch. Hes talking about immigration while the IRS blows 50 million on conferences

      • Dave

        Choke on these FACTS!!!!!!!

        President Obama Improved the Economy and Reduced the Debt

        1. 3,680,000 private sector jobs created since the end of the Bush Great Recession

        2. Expanded government’s fight against fraud in Financial ref, Federal Contractor ref and Health Care areas

        3. $2,000,000,000,000 in deficit reduction

        4. He saved the economy from ruin (until the Tea Party took over
        Congress) with a stimulus that was as large as possible given the
        political realities

        5. Saved the US Auto Industry

        6. Health Care Reform

        7. Reduced military spending by $500,000,000,000

        President Obama Reigned in Wall Street Excesses

        8. Wall Street Reform

        9. Leaned on the banks to recover almost all “bailout money” with interest

        10. Saved the world from global financial collapse

        11. Ordered 65 executives who took bailout money to cut their own pay until they paid back all bailout money.

        President Obama Made America Safer

        12. Killed Osama Bin Laden

        13. Killed a whole generation of al Qaeda leaders

        14. Stopped numerous terrorist attacks in this country

        15. Authorized and oversaw a secret mission by SEAL Team Six to rescue two hostages held by Somali pirates.

        16. Unified the world against Iran and brought unprecedented united
        international pressure against Iran’s nuclear bomb potential

        17. More deportations per year than Bush

        18. Hired more border patrol agents than Bush

        President Obama Reduced Taxes

        19. Tax rates for average working families are the lowest since 1950.

        20. Through the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act, cut taxes for 95% of America’s working families.

        21. Reduced Social Security Taxes for 2011 and 2012

        President Obama Brought More Efficiency to the Federal Government

        22. Smaller Government

        23. Fewer regulations than Bush

        President Obama Strengthened Personal Liberties

        24. Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act; Instituted equal pay for women.

        25. Expanded funding for the Violence Against Women Act.

        26. Support’s states’ right on medical marijuana

        27. Repealed “Don’t ask don’t tell” r

        28. Appointed more openly gay officials than anyone in history.

        29. Extended benefits to same-sex partners of federal employees.

        30. Changed HUD rules to prohibit gender and sexual orientation-based discrimination in housing

        31. Publicly expressed support for the right to enter into a same-sex marriage.

        32. Implemented much of Dream Act via Executive Order

        33. Appointed two pro-choice women to the Supreme Court

        President Obama Helped Make the World a Safer, More Democratic, and More American Friendly Place

        34. Ended the war in Iraq

        35. Established a date for transferring Afghanistan fighting to Afghanis.

        36. Toppled Gadhafi without an American casualty

        37. Fired the first salvo of the Arab Spring with his address in Cairo no less

        38. Has the Arab League watching Syria ref

        39. Presided over democratic revolutions in Tunisia, Egypt, Libya, and Bahrain

        40. Helped to restore America’s reputation around the world as a
        global leader that does the “right thing” in world affairs, at least
        according to the rest of the world.

        41. On his second day in office, he signed a detailed Executive Order
        that banned torture, reversed all Bush torture policies, and put the
        United States in compliance with the Geneva Convention.

        42. Three new trade agreements

        President Obama Increased Respect and Public Support for American Soldiers

        43. Increased veterans/benefits every year

        44. Along with Congressional Democrats, not only reauthorized
        families of fallen soldiers to be able to visit when the body arrives at
        Dover AFB, but also provided funding for it. Ended the media blackout
        on coverage of the return of fallen soldiers.

        45. Signed the Democratic-sponsored Post-9/11 GI Bill, also known as GI Bill 2.0

        President Obama Invested in Education

        46. Invested in college students: 1) by repeatedly increased
        funding for student financial aid, and at the same time cut the banks
        completely out of the process. ref ref ref 2) by reforming student loan program, to make it possible for students to refinance at a lower rate. ref and 3) by overseeing an expansion of the Pell Grants program, to expand opportunity for low income students to go to college.

        47. Invested in primary education: Through the American Recovery and
        Reinvestment Act , invested heavily in elementary, secondary and
        post-secondary education.

        48. Oversaw major expansion of broadband availability in K-12 schools nationwide

        49. Oversaw major expansion in school construction.

        50. Also through the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act, he put $5 billion into early education, including Head Start.

        President Obama Protected What We Eat, Drink and Breathe.

        51. Strengthened environmental protection via new laws and policies.

        52. Fast-tracked regulations to dramatically increase fuel efficiency standards

        53. Strengthened the bond between clean energy and commerce by
        overseeing establishment of an Energy Partnership for the Americas, to
        create more markets for American-made biofuels and green energy
        technologies. ref Oversaw the
        creation of an initiative that converts old factories and manufacturing
        centers into new clean technology centers.

        54. Pushed through a tax credit to help people buy plug-in hybrid cars.

        55. Obama EPA reversed a Bush-era decision to allow the largest mountaintop removal project in US history.

        56. Turned America toward native sources of renewal energy Ordered
        energy plants to prepare to produce at least 15% of all energy through
        renewable resources like wind and solar, by 2021. ref (As you can see, Republicans are trying hard to kill it.)

        57. Created a program to develop renewable energy projects on the
        waters of our Outer Continental Shelf that will produce electricity from
        wind, wave, and ocean currents.

        58. Bypassed Republican opposition in Congress and ordered EPA to begin regulating and measuring carbon emissions.

        59. Oversaw doubling federal spending on clean energy research.

        60. Reengaged in the climate change and greenhouse gas emissions
        agreements talks, and proposed one himself. He also addressed the U.N.
        Climate Change Conference, officially reversing the Bush era stance that
        climate change was a “hoax.”

      • Bine646

        Wait n you are trying to say you own a business? Hahaha slow day huh dave

      • Dave

        No, but I do take time out to school idiots like you.

      • Bine646

        Well you just posted alot of false information- instead of copy n pasting you should try fact checking.

        That way you stop talking about deficits n start talking about our debt. Each citizen now owes $55,000

      • Dave

        I had said you wouldn’t believe it…..You take your talking points from FOX “News”, you know, the credible “news” source that showed pics of palm trees in Wisconsin in the winter…….And I love how you’re pinning that on Obama….do you remember the fake war that was started? Do you not think that that had anything to do with the debt? Of course you won’t because “It’s all Obama’s fault” there I said it for you…

      • Bine646

        I am getting my numbers from FRED, bureau of labor n statistics and other government websites along w fact check dot org. You prove your level of intelligence w the Fox jokes- so typical of ur type

        As for war- we are back in Iraq, back in Afganistan. Now syria, lybia, egpyt, ukraine n north korea. Next presidential candidate , clinton, had alot to say about invading iraq- she was all for it. As was 90% of americans at that time

      • Stephen Barlow

        Why does BLS keep track of Treasury data?

        It’s because they DON’T you liar!

      • Bine646

        FRED does you clown- jhahahahahahaha

        Please keep proving how much of an idiot you are

      • Stephen Barlow

        Is that Flintstone or Astaire.

      • Stephen Barlow

        Never left Afghanistan. We are not “in” north korea…

        There is NO reality in you at ALL is there!!!???

      • Bine646

        We are winding down in Afganistan as we speak- obama gave an exit date. We already teamed up w South Korea to run military drills. Do you only get your information from this website- explains why you know so little

      • Stephen Barlow

        Did you Foster parents NOT teach you the Difference between ‘north’ and South”?

        And we are STILL IN afghanistan. We have NEVER been IN NORTH KOREA, not since 1953.

      • hobbesjd

        who do you think gave us that debt, it started with your god bush and his “war on the credit card” and then the collapse of wall st.

      • Bine646

        Facts?

        2 trillion is deficit reduction? Well hes 400 billion over this yr- thats Bush’s highest.
        Stimulus failed bc our economy is shrinking again.
        Green energy investments failed and we lost money on bailing out GM. Saving wall street got us nothing bc they are seeing record profits and admitting they didnt need the bailout

        Where did you copy n paste this wrong information from

      • Charles Vincent

        hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah…….hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

      • Stephen Barlow

        Speechless AGAIN!!!

      • Charles Vincent

        Not really I just find all those things listed funny. And since Bine646 already smashed them I don’t need to say anything.

      • hobbesjd

        another conservative intelligent answer to everything.

      • Stephen Barlow

        I think he broke the off switch on his butt plug.

      • Charles Vincent

        I don’t have to answer the post Bine646 already has.

      • hobbesjd

        so you too have no understanding of the economy and what’s really been happening? your blaming obama for what the corporations are doing? your blaming him for the purchase of congress by big business? really, are you people that blind?

      • Charles Vincent

        “so you too have no understanding of the economy and what’s really been happening?”

        I understand the economy just fine repeating what Bine646 already stated was well…redundant.

        “your blaming obama for what the corporations are doing?”

        Did Obama not push for the tarp bailouts? Which are not only corporate subsidies(aka welfare for big business), and are they also not a form of trickle down economics(save the big guy and the money he gets will trickle down).

        ” your blaming him for the purchase of congress by big business?”
        He is one of the people bought and paid for by the puppet masters(aka too big to fail).

        ” really, are you people that blind?”
        No, but apparently you are.

      • hobbesjd

        charles, happy 4th.

        your apparent hatred of this president and blaming him for everything that the right has done, everything bad is just plain nonsense. you call me blind – i call you miss informed. you said he voted for tarp bailouts – if he did not this country would have gone into depression…his vote SAVED this country. you people seem to love to find the one thing that you consider bad and turn it into “an act of evil” please, please grow up and get educated, take your hate and turn off fox and friends “they lie and lie and lie”

      • Charles Vincent

        Happy and safe 4th to you Hobbesjd

        I don’t hate The president i think he is doing a poor job there is a difference.

        “i call you miss informed. you said he voted for tarp bailouts”

        well then your calling intellectuals like Noam Chomsky Uninformed as well he pretty much calls Obama worse than bush and lays out how he recycles bush policies and the things i mentioned in my post.

        “you people seem to love to find the one thing that you consider bad and turn it into “an act of evil” please, please grow up and get educated,”

        Sort of like the left does. Take a look around this site hobbes this site propagates hate and paints the right as “evil” on a daily basis. Or is that OK with you because they align with your ideological view of things?

        “take your hate and turn off fox and friends”

        This is an incorrect ASSumption on your part I don’t get new from MSM.

        “”they lie and lie and lie””

        Sort of like “If you like your plan you can keep it, PERIOID” and “If you like your doctor you can keep him, PERIOD” words uttered by Obama himself and labeled the lie of the year by the media.

        https://www DOT youtube DOT com/watch?v=f5pur4-dfiY

        https://www DOT youtube DOT com/watch?v=K3XK2xxR1lA

        https://www DOT youtube DOT com/watch?v=n_IODlKV4Ow

      • hobbesjd

        hey charles, sorry but i just can’t agree with you. my feeling is that the right has made up their collective mind that they will not agree or like or make a “positive” to anything this president does or does NOT do. i do like your response though and thank you for being respectful. the “if you like your plan….” is not even close to the lies that bush and chaney fed us…at least obama’s “lies” did not cost thousands of lives and cost trillions in money the right says we do not have.

      • Charles Vincent

        “the “if you like your plan….” is not even close to the lies that bush
        and chaney fed us…at least obama’s “lies” did not cost thousands of
        lives and cost trillions in money the right says we do not have.”

        This isn’t accurate^

        http://www DOT justforeignpolicy DOT org/obamavsbush

        Obama has also extended those wars contrary to his platform during 2008.

        “sorry but i just can’t agree with you.”

        Its fine to disagree in fact I think its healthy to do so.
        I look forward to future debates with you Hobbes

      • hobbesjd

        and i also with you…have a good rest of the weekend. we are buried in moving stuff. i am tired.

      • Justin Thomas

        “3,680,000 private sector jobs created since the end of the Bush Great Recession”

        And millions more than that were in fact lost, so we’re still net negative jobs every. single. month.

      • Stephen Barlow

        What evidence of ‘shrinkage’ is there?
        YOu are a flat out liar.

        “The hot news today is the scandalous revelation that the IRS spent $4.1 million on an employee conference in Anaheim a few years back. $3,754,578 Was for travel and lodging.”

        And not for the first time.

      • Bine646

        Are you living under a rock? What evidence? They just released the report last week. GO LEARN SOMETHINGGGG

      • Stephen Barlow

        Which report was that?

      • Bine646

        Commerce departments report nugget

      • Stephen Barlow

        Cite it as a footnote pissbrain.

        GLad you think I am GOLDEN!!! ~giggles at being Bine’s ‘nugget’~

      • Bine646

        Why to dumb to figure it out yourself? Rhetorical question….

      • Stephen Barlow

        An honest man is not ashamed of his sources.

        Name ONE person that respects you and agrees with you on this site?

        COWARD! Fraud!

      • Bine646

        I just told you my source- how dense are you. Have you heard of google?

        Am i doing this for respect or to hit morons like you with knowledge? Let me help you, the latter. Now go educate yourself bc you look stupid

      • Stephen Barlow

        NOPE. link it in liar. WHAT page did you plagiarize?

      • Bine646

        Link in something thats been reported on every network n website? You are truely an a$$clown huh

      • Stephen Barlow

        Cowardly Liar, GO back to OZ.

      • Bine646

        “Gross domestic product fell at a 2.9 percent annualized rate, more than forecast and the worst reading since the same three months in 2009, after a previously reported 1 percent drop, the Commerce Department said today in Washington. It marked the biggest downward revision from the agency’s second GDP estimate since records began in 1976.” Bloomberg

        “the regulations under the Affordable Care Act already provide that if a religiously affiliated employer has a genuine religious objection to including those services in its insurance plan, the insurer must provide them separately at no cost to the employee. The government had limited that work-around to nonprofit organizations — such as universities and hospitals. The Supreme Court simply held that religiously oriented for-profits should get the same accommodation. In other words, when there is an alternate way of providing services to employees without forcing religiously motivated businesses to compromise their principles, the government must choose the path that is “least restrictive” of religious freedom.” Washington Post
        Havnt heard from ya in a bit- forgot you worked creeper hrs at the sex store- glory hole heats up after midnightttt

      • Stephen Barlow

        And the PREVIOUS quarter and the 18 quarters before that were?????????

        What were the stats on GFP in 2001-2 and 2007-8

        The second quarter of 2009, was before the stimulus worked and IMMEDIATELY AFTER Bush annihilated 7 MILLION JOBS in a YEAR!!!!

      • Bine646

        He gets hit w facts and brings up Bush- hahahahaha typicalll. Bush is gone, lets live in the present mr gloryhole

        Ps- its GDP not GFP- keep butchering the english language queerbate

      • Stephen Barlow

        YOu didn’t bring up the WHOLE TRUTH. I filled in what you lied about via omission.

      • Bine646

        You are an absolute clown- unbelievable

      • Stephen Barlow

        WHAT source did you OMIT?

      • Bine646

        Clown- whats at the end of the quotes? Bloomberg

      • Stephen Barlow

        WHO makes the laws again? Not the DO NOTHING CONGRESS, even though that is their job.

      • Bine646

        Well Obama has used executive orders, passed stimulus bills n bail outs- so id say the democratically controlled congress during his first term did

      • Stephen Barlow

        Congress passed the bail out. The President CAN NOT tax OR dispense revenue without a Congressional Bill on his desk. one that MUST originate in the HOUSE. Boehner’s House of Ill Repute.

      • Stephen Barlow

        See your own argument Above

      • Justin Thomas

        Hobby Lobby is forcing it’s religious beliefs on everyone. Literally EVERYONE.

      • Stephen Barlow

        Ghee, I thought Businesses were controlling GOVERNMENT! Through lobbying and bribery.

      • Bine646

        Thought Obama was gonna end that? After Monsanto and net neutrality i guess not

      • Sunnyhorse

        At some point this shit will affect YOU, and then maybe you’ll get it.

      • Stephen Barlow

        It’s NOT the money!!! Which is like 1/10th of a cent per taxpayer!!!

        It’s the reality that an employer, who can dictate your off the clock behavior with drug testing, can now dictate how you conduct your SEX LIFE, more significantly than you DOCTOR does.

      • lolo

        So Bine646, it’s ok with you when a for-profit corporation owned by a Christian Scientist will only provide insurance that excludes organ transplants or another corporation owner by a Jehovah’s Witness excludes blood transfusion? The possibilities are endless. Ridiculous.

      • Bine646

        Are you forced to take that job with that christian scientist? No, so you point is invalid. The court mades its decision, time to accept it

      • Stephen Barlow

        Well I DO understand how inferior genetics and other birth defects have FORCED you to be what you are, and there is Special Olympics for you guys…. But really, you should leave these conversations to the ADULTS.

      • hobbesjd

        it’s also good to never buy anything from them either, but that’s not really the point…has dave has said it should never be the right of the employer to impose their beliefs on their workers.

      • Justin Thomas

        Hobby Lobby actually pays twice the national average minimum wage.

      • Bud

        There still is a time when religion rules. The time is now and the place is called the Middle East.

      • Becca

        And apparently the USA, too…

      • Stephen Barlow

        It was called England in 1776. It is iraq and Saudi Arabia today.

        An now, it is Washington, DC.

      • Sunnyhorse

        You’ve completely missed the point, I see.

      • Bine646

        No its against these ceos religious belief to provide contraception, supreme court agrees

      • Dave

        What about the employees religious beliefs….are the CEO’s beliefs MORE important? You would think so by your posts.

      • Bine646

        Haha who is paying for the benefits- the employee or the employer?

        What religion says its required they take abortion meds n birth control- ill wait

      • Crystal Lee

        The employee is paying for them, It comes out of their check and most still have to pay a co-pay. The listed BC’s aren’t just used for pregnancy prevention, I think I read that it was about 14-20% percent of women on BC aren’t actually using it to prevent conception but to treat medical problems. Yes, there is freedom of religion, but people have the right to be free from religion.

      • Bine646

        You pay for part of your benefits package- a percentage, not all.

        If you want your freedoms, then they want theirs

        This is about abortion meds also, not just birth control. Also- how did women from the beginning of time survive without this magic pill? Is this generation to weak to deal w the pains of the menstrual cycle that they need a drug? Pfizer lovessss you

      • Cemetery Girl

        You obviously are the biggest idiot ever and I weep for any female that knows you. This is more than a little pain that these pills can be used for! Endometriosis is when uterine lining grows outside of the uterus (causing severe pain and bleeding), andymosis the lining grows into the muscle tissue of the uterus (causing severe pain and bleeding, and greatly increases the risk of uterine cancer), fibroids are abnormal growths in the uterus (causing the same problems as the others.) By your logic, men have had to deal with the effects of an enlarged prostate through time, but only in more recent times have there been treatments. Can’t men just man up and not seek medical treatments? If women are wimps for seeking help for a uterus double, triple, quadruple normal, what kind of wimps are men that get prostate care? I know, that’s a whole different ball game, right? Women’s health and quality of life is nothing compared to a man’s, right?

      • Crystal Lee

        I can understand denying abortion medications (like plan B and the procedures), but thats not what these are, they are preventatives, taking them after the fact, won’t kill the developing child.

        If you want to ‘go back to the beginning of time’ they didn’t, if they menstrual issues that were so severe that they could barely function, odds are, they died, can’t move or eat = death.

        Even moving forward up until these came around, if they didn’t die from natural complications, they were ‘diagnosed’ with hysterics and often institutionalized, which is as good as being dead, they’d either get stuck there until they died, which sadly happened far too soon, where lobotomized, or something equally horrific. The ones that didn’t get put into an institution, where often so doped up on laudanum, that they became addicted to it and often, in the end, died from it.

      • Dave

        The employee pays…..I pay half for my employees. So you’re saying the person that has more money trumps the person with less…..seems about right looking at your other arguments. And NO religion says that you have to take them….Christianity DOES say that if you get a divorce you shall be stoned to death….also if you wear mixed threads….stoned to death, and I can go on….but you won’t listen anyway.

      • Bine646

        How many other religions have similar beliefs- you keep singling out christianity.

        This country was founded by individuals who were trying to escape religious persecution- guess trying to get away from folks like you.

        The supreme court made its decision, deal w it. Noone is saying you are not allowed to kill your unborn child or take birth control- they are just saying business owners w a particular religious belief is not forced to pay. You are all about freedoms, you understand

      • Stephen Barlow

        NONE that are taking it to court.

      • Bine646

        Now they dont have too

      • Stephen Barlow

        EVERY special exception has to go through the courts FIRST. The decision SAID it is a one of a kinda ruling, only applicable to Privately held companies, with definable Religious objections.

        What WASN’T proven here is how their FREEDOM was abrogated? They are practicing their own personal; beliefs without hinderance. I can NOT believe the COurt is THIS corrupt.

      • Bine646

        Hahaha you are so upset hahaha

      • Stephen Barlow

        BP 111/77.

        that IS you whole purpose isn’t it. Not to make a point of express an opinion. Just to make this blog as unpleasant as possible.

      • Bine646

        That paragraph is not comprehendible

      • Stephen Barlow

        Then sTOP wasting time and ink. DON’T FEED the troll.

      • Dave

        I hear you…it’s just frustrating that there are people out there that are that dense….this might be their job (trolling) there have been a couple of stories that broke saying the right was paying people to troll.

      • Stephen Barlow

        They are. I was offered one. 2 clues.

        A) they NEVER have a citation or reference. They just ‘make stuff up”.

        B) They deflect. usually with an attack on your beliefs, but always away from their lie.

        You don’t have to Perry Mason them. BE Tom Cruise in “A Few Good Men.”

        I handle them thusly:

        “I know, blah blah blah, but if you have any integrity, you will tell the truth.” Then ask your simplified question again.

        If it turns into a personal attack, you KNOWE you were right. If they claim to have explained it, tell ’em you missed it would they please cut& paste that from the original. LOL

        Don’t get Me wrong, I LOVE to bait the fools. But I don’t invest in it.

      • Bine646

        Coming from the guy who responds w paragraphs of nonsense- classssic

      • Stephen Barlow

        Blah…

      • Luke

        Benefits are often a shared cost between the employer and employee. It it were 100% employer sponsored, then you might have a fragment of a valid point.

      • Bine646

        So if the cost is split between the two and the employee wants something that the employer wont pay for, then the employee can pick that percentage up aswell. Wow that was easy

      • Luke

        So much confidence…

      • Stephen Barlow

        Agreed, Hobby Lobby might be paying for HALF the premiums for a third party supplier of medical financing. The actually do not pay a SINGLE PENNY for actual medicine. This is why this decision is so egregious.

      • Cemetery Girl

        What are benefits? Forms of compensation for labor. Very, very few employers pay all of the premium for employee health insurance. Instead, typically employers pay part (leaving employees to pay the rest deducted from their pay), or pay nothing but offer the ability for employees to get health insurance through the employer group (and again deducting the premium from the pay). We do not suggest that employers have the right to dictate how any other means of compensation for labor are used. We don’t suggest that an employer has a say in how a paycheck is spent. We don’t suggest that an employer dictates how an employee’s 401 is used later because the employer might have paid into it. We wouldn’t say that an employer has control over where an employee can go when using paid vacation time. We would balk at such ideas, but somehow healthcare is rightly the realm of the employer because they offer health insurance as a compensation for labor?

      • ShelleysLeg

        That’s about the lamest answer on this entire thread. You expect to be taken seriously when you post that women are working for ‘free’ contraception?

        I’m sure if you had your way that WOULD be the only compensation for a month’s worth of work.

      • Bine646

        Then what are you complaining about exactly bc it seems you are about not getting free contraception. The Supreme Court made its decision n you cannot handle that, i get it

      • ShelleysLeg

        Hey hon, I’m 67 and haven’t needed BC in quite awhile, but I have nieces and younger friends.

      • Bine646

        Well tell them to find a minimum wage job that provides them w full benefits unlike hobby lobby or go to college and find a real career.

        If that doesnt work they can get abortions at planned parenthood and refill their BC

      • Cemetery Girl

        You haven’t the foggiest idea how most insurance works, do you? Just like any other prescription, the insurance coverage isn’t 100% off the cost. I have yet to have a company that pays 100% of prescription costs. (If they’re out there, kudos to those that have them!) Asthma medication, acid reflux medication, birth control… it only paid a percentage, admittedly a higher percent for generic, but still not 100%!

      • Bine646

        1) i work in the medical field 2) what does insurance coverage have to do with the Supreme courts decision n people not being able to handle it?

      • Cemetery Girl

        Because when insurance covers something, even though it isn’t completely, it makes it more affordable. Having to pay 50% of a prescription cost is better than 100%; paying a $30 copay is better than paying for the whole cost of the doctor’s appointment. It is basic math. If a person has a certain budget then paying a smaller amount for goods and services will be beneficial.
        And if you ask what insurance and the Supreme Court decision have to do with each other than of course you have no clue why people are mad. It takes a super duper kind of special to question what insurance coverage has to do over a Supreme Court decision that allows employers to allow what medical costs will be covered by insurance based on the employer’s religious beliefs.

      • Bine646

        “the regulations under the Affordable Care Act already provide that if a religiously affiliated employer has a genuine religious objection to including those services in its insurance plan, the insurer must provide them separately at no cost to the employee. The government had limited that work-around to nonprofit organizations — such as universities and hospitals. The Supreme Court simply held that religiously oriented for-profits should get the same accommodation. In other words, when there is an alternate way of providing services to employees without forcing religiously motivated businesses to compromise their principles, the government must choose the path that is “least restrictive” of religious freedom.” Washingon Pothe regulations under the Affordable Care Act already provide that if a religiously affiliated employer has a genuine religious objection to including those services in its insurance plan, the insurer must provide them separately at no cost to the employee. The government had limited that work-around to nonprofit organizations — such as universities and hospitals. The Supreme Court simply held that religiously oriented for-profits should get the same accommodation. In other words, when there is an alternate way of providing services to employees without forcing religiously motivated businesses to compromise their principles, the government must choose the path that is “least restrictive” of religious freedom.
        the regulations under the Affordable Care Act already provide that if a religiously affiliated employer has a genuine religious objection to including those services in its insurance plan, the insurer must provide them separately at no cost to the employee. The government had limited that work-around to nonprofit organizations — such as universities and hospitals. The Supreme Court simply held that religiously oriented for-profits should get the same accommodation. In other words, when there is an alternate way of providing services to employees without forcing religiously motivated businesses to compromise their principles, the government must choose the path that is “least restrictive” of religious freedom.” Washington Post
        You are free to find an employer which will- there will be many. I think youve wasted enough time- were you this upset about Monsanto bill? Or the net neutrality?

    • Stephen Barlow

      I may not be after today.

    • Stephen Barlow

      I may not be after today.

  • Political Garbage

    Hey thanks for the h/t sir! Thank God SCOTUS is here to protect Christians from being oppressed out of their right to oppress people!

    • Bine646

      Country was founded by individuals who wanted to practice their religion wout persecution- and here you areeee

      • Luke

        I don’t think you’re clear on what persecution means.

      • Bine646

        hostility and ill-treatment, especially because of race or political or religious beliefs.

      • Luke

        Ok, the next step then is to apply that definition in real life.

        We now have a situation where a certain subset of people are receiving unequal treatment because of the religious beliefs of Hobby Lobby’s leadership.

        Unfortunately Bine, you are on the wrong side of the argument. Half a century ago, you likely would have been saying that the owners of Piggy Park BBQ were being persecuted by being forced to serve black people.

        One is not being persecuted simply by being denied the ability to persecute others. It doesn’t work that way.

      • Bine646

        Have you read comments on this board? Definition of persecution

        As for the unfair treatment of individuals- Supreme Court found that to be true. Why they determined it was unconstitutional to make these religious business owners go against their beliefs- youll accept that soon

      • Luke

        So confident…

  • Rod Haney

    Old, white catholic men, deciding a woman’s issue.

    • Bine646

      Women can decide to do what they want, they just have to pay for it- crazy concept for most liberals

      • Dave

        But the old guys penis pumps and Viagra are covered 100%….I don’t want to pay for some guy that can’t get it up…..it’s god’s will to have a limp dick.

      • Bine646

        Well if you are thinking of it from a religious stand point, thats promoting procreation not stopping it. However when you own a company with more than 50 employees you can make that argument

      • Stephen Barlow

        So, let’s extract the sperm from them as they do with bulls and race horses. ANALLY. Forcing ejaculation with electro shock.

        Cheaper than pills.

      • Bine646

        You are a clown

      • Stephen Barlow

        blah

      • name

        exactly, God must be telling them they wouldn’t be good fathers, so he made them limp…..

      • name that tune

        it is also medication that is used by women who DO NOT have sex…..that is the crazy part….its not just for birth control…..I have been on it since before I had sex….and even if I was using it for sexual purposes, its not like I am f’in myself…it takes two….I wish there was a birth control for men…..best believe we wouldn’t be having this debate…also, why are there more ED medication commercials than ever before even in the face of less access to birth control for women….just doesn’t make sense….

      • Bine646

        There is a birth control for men, called a condom.

        Is it healthy for a woman to have 4 menstrual cycles a year? Idk if id trust science that much, alot of these medications have been found to be harmful- most notably Yaz.

        Plus these hormones are showing up in our water supply, potentially effecting our children- (google it).

        Individuals founded this country to escape religious persecution. However here you are demanding they go against their beliefs- whats wrong with paying formenstrual it urself? Planned parenthood?

        Women have dealt with their menstrual cycles from the beginning of time but apparently this new generation cant handle it n needs a pill

      • Dave

        I had a girlfriend with ovarian cysts…they were extremely painful and if left untreated they would cause ovarian cancer….so stop thinking that the pill is for one thing only…its narrow minded thinking like this that caused this mess in the first place.

      • Lydia

        I took a quick look at the brief itself…HL objected to 4 out of the 20 birth control methods currently approved by the FDA. Those 4 were IUDs & morning-after pills. The other 16 (including 3 types of “the pill”, condoms, vasectomies & more) WILL be covered by HL.

      • Luke

        Right, but the argument is that this sets precedent. Sort of like how the Christian right tends to say that gay marriage is the slippery slope that is the gateway to bestiality.

      • Bine646

        One possible cause of ovarian cancer could be the replacement of hormones……

      • Dave

        Also if you’re going to spout religion as the way people should live….then look in the buybull and see that divorce was considered a stoning offence 67 times…..birth control…zero. And I hope your not wearing clothes of mixed threads…because you can be stoned to death for that.

      • Bine646

        If people want to live by a religion- they are free to do so. In America, I am free to take whatever job I please. If i do not agree with management or the benefits do not meet my expectations- well I can go find a job that does. Its pretty simple really

      • AW

        Actually, yes, it IS healthy for women to have as few menstrual cycles as possible. The pill reduces a woman’s risk of ovarian cancer by over 60%. Ovarian cancer has one of the lowest survival rates of any cancer, and it’s most common among women who have not had children. The pill also reduces the risk of breast cancer for women who have not had children. Women who are NOT having sex are the ones who actually can benefit most from hormonal birth control.

        That’s not what this case was about; they’re not refusing to provide the regular pill. But what they’re doing is almost as big a detriment. One of the methods they object to is the IUD. IUDs do prevent pregnancy, but they’re used almost as often to control excessive bleeding from endometrial abnormalities. An IUD can often prevent a hysterectomy and make it possible for the woman to have a child after treatment. Unfortunately, an IUD can also cost up to $1000, which makes it pretty unlikely that a woman working at Hobby Lobby could afford it without insurance.

        It’s not just about birth control; it’s about women’s health in general.

      • Bine646

        Id like to see this data, a womans genetics is set to have 12 menstrual cycles a yr. Yet, you believe, thats not healthy, a body should only have 4 so you manipulate it so that happens. These medicines are relatively new, the long term effects have not been determined- like ADD medications and others in the past, young females are going through a trial period.

        You are coming up with these stats- like it reduces breast cancer- well the rates of breast cancer have been increasing over the past 25 yrs- so how is this reducing it?

        Is it worth risking the health of future generations by pumping them full of these female hormones which keep turning up in the water?

      • Nancy Cushing

        Bine646 – I am guessing you are not a woman? It might not be the best idea to pump anyone full of anything but every man has a choice and every woman should have the same choice. Your comments are like most conservative on most issues and it’s very tiring. No solutions just crap.

      • Bine646

        You are all about choices- then you have no problem w these business owners choosing not to provide this type of contraception bc its agaist their religion

      • Stephen Barlow

        If hobby Lobby wants to STOP providing health insurance for EVERY EMPLOYEE, I would give them that freedom.

      • Bine646

        You should worry about your own business

      • Stephen Barlow

        BLah

      • Bine646

        Exactly you dont own one or seem to work for that matter

      • Stephen Barlow

        I have owned 4, Ground up Start ups I perected and sold a whole operating entities. All without SBA loans and ALL sold for 7 figures within 1000 days.

        Don’t need to work.

        You on SSI or SSR? Because i KNOW no one would pay you for the quality YOU bring to the table.

      • Bine646

        By the time you spend in message boards you must be retired

      • Stephen Barlow

        @ 44. ALmost grateful for Bush’s fiscal incompetence. I saw it coming. Paulsen invents CDS/CDO’s after Phil Gramm makes derivative oversight CRIMINAL…. LMAO!!!! CASHED out of all large stocks Christmas ’07. Sold all the smalls on Labor day ’08. Shorted the Euro when it was $1.62 dollars per. Bought back in for 50% 10 days after the Recovery Act was signed. And THANK OBAMA!!!! Doubled it all within a year!!!

        Also bought 20,000 GM and 20,000 FORD the day after the bankruptcy. I own Asian Real Estate and 7 Adult Bookstore/theatres in Florida.

      • Bine646

        Sureeeeeee go spend some money on an education

      • Stephen Barlow

        YEP!

        how much that part time burger flippin’ gig put in YOUR retirement fund?

      • Bine646

        You just love to butcher the english language huh

      • Stephen Barlow

        ??? YOu were typin’ English?

      • Bine646

        Your caps button keeps getting stuck on unless you are that upset that you must type in caps- is Stevie Wevie upset? Too many at the glory hole today? Your mouth is sore from all the business?

      • Stephen Barlow

        Doesn’t matter, in Jan 2009, stock was $2.41. Sold @ 18.

      • Stephen Barlow

        Doesn’t matter, in Jan 2009, stock was $2.41. Sold @ 18.

      • Stephen Barlow

        Blah blahh blah blah.

      • Bine646

        Conversation for adults huh hahaha

      • Stephen Barlow

        I was respnding to you in your own language! My bad.

      • Bine646

        No, no you were not- good try tho

      • Cemetery Girl

        The average is a woman having 12 cycles a year, the reality can vary greatly based on the individual woman.

      • Cemetery Girl

        Is it healthy to have two cycles a month or to have them every month or two but have 14 or more days of bleeding? Is it normal to have uterine lining growing outside of the uterus or into muscle tissue? No, but it can naturally occur, and it all can greatly impact a woman’s health. These aren’t new problems, but there’s now methods that can help (including hormonal methods of birth control.)

      • Joan

        .The pills in question are abortion pills not birth control pills. If you want to kill your baby before it is born, you should pay for it yourself. There are many Christians who feel strongly about this and should not be forced to go against their religion.

      • pixeloid

        First off, that’s wrong. The pills Hobby Lobby is against are NOT abortifacients.
        Second, Hobby Lobby has no real “moral objections” because they invest in companies that DO produce abortifacients, as well as get most of their stock from a country that performs forced abortions.
        Third, NOBODY is being forced to use contraception.
        Fourth, your religion does NOT give you the right to prevent others from doing things you don’t like.

      • Bine646

        Yes it does have to do w abortion meds n noone is forcing you not to take the pill, they just arent paying for it. You want it, you buy it or find another minimum wage job that will- you want your freedoms so do they

      • pixeloid

        They aren’t paying for it anyway. Also, it’s almost impossible for a minimum wage slave to have enough extra money to pay for their medication out of pocket. Yes, MEDICATION. Many women take these pills for problems that have nothing to do with birth control. I know Christians don’t care about human life and enjoy seeing people sicken, suffer, and die, but the rest of us don’t. Corporations do NOT have “religious freedom”, no matter what 5 corporate puppets in robes think.
        Also, “religious freedom” does NOT give you the right to restrict the freedom, safety, or health of others. Why can’t you people understand that? So tired of religious groups getting special privileges and being able to ignore laws that the rest of us must follow.

      • Bine646

        Called Planned Parenthood.

        If u cant afford a child dont get pregnant- pretty simple really

        Supreme Court made its decision, accept it. You are ok with forcing business owners to give you your freedoms but not ok when they are awarded their? Typical liberal

      • pixeloid

        Sure, just accept the decision of possibly the worst, most corrupt court in US history. I’m sure German conservatives were saying “just accept it” around 1932. You people never change.

      • Crystal Lee

        Planned Parenthood is great, but many states (including the one i’m in) don’t give them much funding so they can’t offer low cost BC and services like they do in places, like Washington State. I still go to them, but only because I’m on SSID and the government medical covers most the cost making it cheap enough for me to afford. On 721 a month ( the max most can get for that) I couldn’t afford to pay 30% or higher the cost, nor can most people I know working for minimum wage causing the pain to disrupt their entire lives. As I said earlier, if it was actual abortion pills or procedures, I wouldn’t have an issue with it.

      • ShelleysLeg

        Really? And MY decision impacts you HOW exactly? No one is forcing you to do anything, but you want to exclude others because YOU know what is right for someone else? Is Bristol ‘can’t stop myself’ your daughter?

      • Luke

        Then they don’t buy the pills… Right?

        Nobody is forcing anyone to take pills. This is about restricting medical care, not forcing it.

      • Stephen Barlow

        The CRAZY part is that NO medicine or science was in evidence and the Justices made a religious decision contrary to the Constitution.

        They just established the Hobby Lobby religion as LAW.

      • MLR

        Excuse me but women do pay for it, it’s part of their compensation package plus medical coverage is not free either. Employees still pay premiums and co-pays. Nothing is really free. I’m not thrilled that my tax dollars cover viagra so old men can get a hard on (who probably shouldn’t be having sex anymore) but I’m not whining about it like all those people whining about contraception. So tell me, why don’t men pay for their own damn viagra?

      • Bine646

        It will not be part of the benefits package at hobby lobby. Guess you will still be heading to planned parenthood for your refill or find a job that offers it.

        As for your viagra tiff- bring it to the Supreme Court like these people did, they will make a decision, then we will live with it

      • ShelleysLeg

        Wow, double standards are OK as long as the court gets to rule on it…………you seriously think OLD guys with ED are going to rule against it? LOL!! Delusional!

      • Bine646

        Erectile dysfunction is the opposite of abortion meds and birth control- but ok

      • Dave

        Because it’s men that are deciding the laws about themselves AND WOMEN……It was 5 men that decided this…

  • Veritas vos Liberabit

    A modern version of Roe v Wade. Can Hobby Lobby have their cake and eat it too?

  • Charles Vincent

    Hmm well the relationship between employer and employee is a contract, the prospective employee has the prerogative to ask questions before deciding to accept or reject the contract of employment.
    On a side note this decision effects 4 types of contraceptive;
    “Greens object to “facilitating” coverage of certain contraceptives (two types of IUDs, Plan B, and Ella).”

  • KeithEns

    The majority opinion is breathtaking because they allowed conscientious
    objection to trump the rule of law. Socrates, Jesus, and Gandhi always asserted
    their conscientious objection to law and recognized society had the right to
    punish them for their disobedience. Socrates drank hemlock, Jesus was nailed to
    the cross, and Gandhi served hard time in prison because they refused to accept
    the principal for which the Supreme Court ruled today.

  • Russell Finch

    so can a muslim owned company force female employees to wear burkas?

    • Luke

      In pure theory, there is no reason why not. According to the HL supporters here, the following is true:

      – The company is free to do whatever it wants.
      – If the employee doesn’t like it, they can quit.
      – If the employee refuses to bow to the religious beliefs of the company owner, then the company owner is being religiously persecuted.

  • Alex Mawdsley

    So, when exactly did We The People vote this into law? I’m not exactly sure how an issue like this just gets to be decided by such a small group.

  • pixeloid

    There should be no religious exemptions at all. “Religious freedom” does NOT give you the right to impose your religious beliefs on others. Period.

  • MLR

    If people don’t get out and vote in 2014 and 2016 then we deserve what comes next!

  • jackiedehler

    They are so 2 faced & $$$ hungry. Last year I saw a sign “Made in American” that was really made in China too!!! Sad, sad, sad!!

  • LB

    Hobby Lobby says it operates “in a manner consistent with Biblical principles.” Okay, let’s take a closer look then. Those values extend throughout its business, except when it comes to the company’s retirement plan and one other minor detail. The company refuses to cover contraception methods for its employees that it views as ‘abortive’ yet the company’s 401(k) plan has millions of dollars invested in funds that own the companies that make these exact pills.

    “Being Christians, we don’t pay for drugs that might cause abortions, which means that we don’t cover emergency contraception, the morning-after pill or the week-after pill,” Hobby Lobby founder and CEO David Green stated. Okay… but you’ll profit from investing in the companies that manufacture them? What’s more important, core values or the almighty buck? The other detail they’d like you to believe is minor, is actually major . If you truly want to ‘practice what you preach’ then why work so closely with a country that doesn’t mirror your values. The company is happy to profit from the business it does with China even though political conditions in that country have led to hundreds of millions of abortions!!! That is absolute hypocrisy. My concern is this majority decision could open the door to other closely held corporations seeking to withhold coverage for other medical procedures at odds with firm (in HL case semi-firm) religious beliefs. If a company can skirt the contraception requirement, what’s to prevent another employer from objecting to providing access to vaccines or blood transfusions on religious grounds? It’s a slippery slope.

    • Luke

      It’s funny how the slippery slope argument is applicable to certain people in some instances, but not others.

    • Cemetery Girl

      There is an issue this has opened that isn’t even a slope. HL objects to certain medications that they view cause an abortion (doesn’t matter on how scientifically sound this view is), well what of a company that opposes all birth control. Or even just hormonal birth control (pill, iud, ect). The groundwork has been laid, if a company has religious objections they can deny the health coverage of it. A woman that has been on birth control for controlling endometriosis will suddenly be told tough luck. What if they view a D&C as the same as an abortion, even though it is not? A woman can suffer an incomplete miscarriage (where some tissue remains, which can cause deadly infection), but the employer opposes paying for such actions. What of treating an ectopic pregnancy? It can be fatal for the woman if left untreated, but what if an employer refuses to cover treatment because the surgery will mean the end of a “baby” (that wouldn’t make it anyway!) These are all closely related topics, and yes there are those that believe that D&C and surgery for an ectopic pregnancy are just as wrong as abortion. The groundwork has been laid, it isn’t a leap to make that next step.

  • Matthew Reece

    Do not confuse the voices of apathy for the voices outside the box of partisan politics. Also, the idea that every vote in every election counts is mathematically disproven. The odds that your vote will decide an election tend to be orders of magnitude lower than the odds that you will be killed as you travel to your polling place.

  • Cemetery Girl

    I see this as a very big deal. Birth control, those based on controlling hormones, are used for far more than just avoiding pregnancy. For years I took birth control pills to help lessen the affects of andymosis. It was the only non-surgical option. I have since had a hysterectomy, but that is major surgery which requires weeks to recover. This ruling allows employers to not only interfere in family planning but to interfere in a woman’s health and quality of life. Mirena was recommended for me, but not something my insurance covered (and I assure you, it is very expensive.) Birth control pills are also expensive, especially when you add up their full cost over years. Now employers can demand a woman has to pay for it herself. They don’t care about it being a valid medical treatment or the quality of the woman’s life, they need to promote their religious views. It makes no difference to them that the portions of premiums they might pay gets added into other funds to cover the expenses of payments from that insurance company for services to all their insurance holders (including those from other employers, including those that allow birth control), but they must wield their control which states “we don’t care if you have a medical condition that can actually be helped by these treatments. We don’t care if you have severe pain, that it leaves you unable to function for days at a time, if you have severe bleeding that drains you leaving you anemic, if the treatment we find religiously offensive can help slow the progression of your condition. None of that matters.” The religious view of a person has been officially placed higher in priority than the health of another person (as long as the second person is female.) No, even without the implications of this ruling, just based on the fact that an employer now has this right to interfere in the health of their employees, that is a very big deal.

  • Michael Demeule-Calella

    As an appellate case and not a case of original jurisdiction hasn’t the SJC overstepped its judicial boundaries by wrongly applying judicial review? article III section 2 clause 2. of the constitution

  • ExRadioGuy15

    Remember what the Fascist Christian Plutartheocrats (FCPers) of the GOP really want: a Fascist Christian Plutartheocracy (FCP). The Hobby Lobby and Harris v. Quinn decisions on Monday were part of the systematic and incremental “chipping away” of the Constitution, with the help of the Fascist Feckless Five Con (FFFC) majority, to get that done eventually.
    Editor’s note: due to retirements, 36 US Senate seats are up for grabs this fall, 21 of which are currently held by Democrats.