Jake Tapper to GOP Congressman: Why Didn’t Republicans Care This Much About 4,500 Deaths in Iraq?

jaketapperTo hear conservatives talk, you’d think that Benghazi was some massive coverup rivaling or worse than Watergate.  While conservatives have had many conspiracy theories (my favorite being that Obama ordered armed gunships – already in the air – to stand down) they’ve all been repeatedly debunked.  Now they’ve basically been reduced to trying to turn the talking points that were used by Susan Rice in the days immediately following the attack into some massive coverup that really nobody besides them cares about.


Oh, by the way, we’ve spent millions of the taxpayers’ money on these pointless hearings just so that Republicans can play partisan politics.  Then again, Republicans have spent millions on pointless votes to repeal “Obamacare” so the party for “fiscal responsibility” seems to be eager to continue to prove their hypocrisy.  Because nothing says “fiscal responsibility” quite like wasting millions of dollars playing pointless partisan politics.

And when it comes to Benghazi, it’s especially hypocritical of Republicans to fake this outrage over what happened there while mostly ignoring the over 4,400 Americans that died in Iraq because of George W. Bush’s lies.

Well, CNN’s Jake Tapper hit Republican Rep. Trey Gowdy, the chairman for the select committee for another Benghazi “investigation,” with the question many liberals have been asking conservatives.

“Republicans in general did not seem to have this appetite to find out what went wrong when incorrect intelligence was used to push the war in Iraq,” Tapper asked. “Do you see why some people might say, ‘Why is this more important than that war which resulted in the deaths of more than 4,500 American soldiers and countless innocent Iraqis?”

Exactly! 

Shockingly, Gowdy didn’t answer the question.  

This is the kind of nonsense that makes it impossible for me to take Republicans seriously.  We have a previous administration that admitted to war crimes, ignored warnings prior to 9/11 and started a war based on lies – yet Republicans essentially gave it all the proverbial shrug of the shoulders.

Yet here we are, nearly two years after the fact, and Republicans are still holding hearings about Benghazi.

This is the scenario I think we should go by.  Once we see George W. Bush and Dick Cheney put on trial for war crimes, willfully misleading the American people into war and for the deaths of over 4,400 American soldiers in Iraq – then we’ll talk about what talking points were used immediately following Benghazi.

Deal?



Allen Clifton

Allen Clifton is a native Texan who now lives in the Austin area. He has a degree in Political Science from Sam Houston State University. Allen is a co-founder of Forward Progressives and creator of the popular Right Off A Cliff column and Facebook page. Be sure to follow Allen on Twitter and Facebook, and subscribe to his channel on YouTube as well.

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  • Bonta-kun

    Sadly I’ve got more chance of hitting a walk off GS for the Cards, a Game 7 buzzer-beating three for the Magic AND a 60-yarder for the Fins than we have of that ever happening.

    • regressive teaparty trash

      or my cowboys winning a SB with overpaid tony room
      ………… or shaq beating me at FT shooting

  • Rhonda Lowenstein

    Benghazi is their biggest political “fundraiser” right now. It’s not about the lives lost! It’s about raising money for republican candidates! That’s the REAL scandal!

    • strayaway

      The real scandal was waging an executive ordered war on Libya which destabilized that Country. Benghazi was just one one of many bits of blowback from poor foreign policy. As both Dennis Kucinich and Ralph Nader have pointed out, the Libyan attack and violations of the War Powers Act were impeachable offenses. Republicans who focus on Benghazi instead of Khaddafi’s overthrow are focusing on a symptom instead of the disease. Many of those same Republicans also supported President Obama’s attack on Libya.

      • sfwm.son

        well said. and it goes further back than that…in fact US policies abroad since ww2 have done us more harm than good, I’d bet. I’m no expert, but it seems we keep making the same mistakes over and over.

      • regressive teaparty trash

        it adds profit to those who prop the politicians up

      • surfjac

        That’s right Obama going into Iraq in 2003 was an impeachable offe…oh wait, that was bush.
        Not investigating bush for war crimes might be impeachable.

      • strayaway

        surfjac, Yes, Bush lied to us about Iraq just as Obama lied to us about that getting out of Iraq was going to be the first thing he did when elected. However, I was putting Benghazi in perspective and trying to point out that many Republicans were focused on the wrong thing. If you want to bring other wars and personalities into this who had though, how about Hillary? Senator Clinton was an early cheerleader and advocate of Bush’s war on Iraq and as Secretary of State, supported and advanced Obama’s attack on Libya and supported ‘limited’ bombing of Syria. With Hillary, you will be getting the worst of Bush, Obama, and maybe even McCain.

      • Tina Israel

        Uh, Stray, President Obama has been working as hard as he can to get us out of there. Did you not notice?

      • strayaway

        “There” meaning Iraq? Quite the opposite. Instead of ending the Iraq war being “the first thing I will do” as promised in 2007, He kept the troops there until one month before the deadline of when the Iraqi parliament demanded that we have them all out; a deadline set while Bush was still president. Obama even negotiated with Iraq to keep US troops there longer but fortunately Iraq insisted on provisions that the President couldn’t swallow.

        My concern on this thread though is that Republicans are wrong about fixating on Benghazi when Behghazi is just a byproduct of the Obama’s attack on Libya which many republicans supported. Therein lies the hypocrisy of many Republicans.

      • pablo duvnjak

        You have concerns, how wonderful of you. Now go and pound sand.

      • Michael C. Thompson

        Do you think a reply like that makes you look intelligent? Or perhaps it isn’t being perceived as intelligent that you desire, maybe you just wanna feel good about letting the other locksteppers here know you’re on their side. What is it about being in groups that makes people no longer concerned with looking stupid…

      • Jim Kershner

        Same reason your Republican, lockstep much?

      • Michael C. Thompson

        I am not and have never been a Republican, and I’ve been a hardcore liberal for going on four years. You don’t know what you’re talking about.

      • strayaway

        You are such a clever poster!

      • Jim Kershner

        When was the last time a Republican POTUS did something for the working people of this country? Other than take their money and give it to the rich or spend it on wars? Hasn’t been in YOUR life time

      • strayaway

        I’m not sure what your question has to do with this article. Perhaps you are lost. However, Harding and Coolidge were fantastic in improving the economy, cutting working hours, improving the workers’ lot, and back to this thread, in keeping us out of wars. Eisenhower kept us out of wars while workers prospered. Nixon ended Lyndon Johnson’s Vietnam War. Nixon and Coolidge both ended Democratic imposed drafts. That said, W. Bush sucked but so did Senators like Hillary and Kerry who gave away their congressional power to declare war to Bush. Congressman Sanders, to his credit, did not. No Republican presidents though, to my knowledge, have won a Nobel Peace Prize and bombed seven countries like Obama.

      • Jim Kershner

        Love your rewrite of history, Eisenhower put us in Vietnam, Kennedy wanted to get us out so did Johnson, Nixon extended it

      • strayaway

        Most troops were stationed there under Johnson. The largest number of US troops put into Vietnam was also under Johnson. Nixon took his time but he did end US involvement in Vietnam during his second term in office. It was by any significant measurement Lyndon Johnson’s war.

      • ph864

        Both Eisenhower and Kennedy saw the repercussions of a War in Asia , either wanted to enter Vietnamese Civil War conflict except with Advisors . according to the Geneva accord , Elections where to be held in Vietnam in 1954 ,but knowing that Ho Chi Minh would Win by a Landslide US along with South Vietnam canceled the Elections. Johnson was Domestic Politician, he was out of his League in Foreign Policy and had Cold War Mentality.
        The Vietnam War has Stained his “Legacy” for all time,

      • Claire Wood

        1952 -1960 Eisenhower. Before that Theodore Roosevelt, whose birthday is today

      • Jim Kershner

        Really? so we have to wait every 55 years for the government to work for the people that elect the crooks that call themselves Republicans to do something for the electorate

      • Jim Kershner

        Another god damned lie, Our troops had to leave or every soldier would be held personally responsible for monitary damages for life and property they destroy. You a-holes love to make up shit. again facts don’t matter

      • strayaway

        You got that half right. The Iraqi parliament had ordered the US troops out while Bush was still in office. The deadline for troop removal was during the term of the next president who had not yet been chosen. As a candidate, Obama promised to take the troops out immediately and said, “You can bank on that”. He lied. Instead, he kept the troops there until two weeks before the deadline and negotiated to have them stay longer. He didn’t keep them longer because , here is the tidbit you mentioned, Iraq insisted on being able to punish US troops. At least,

      • Jim Kershner

        And what about Bush’s promise to defend this country, invading a country that was no threat, boy that’s protection

      • strayaway

        I agree that Bush should be sharing a prison cell with Obama. Don’t imagine that I’m a Bush supporter. For good measure, don’t vote for Hillary either.

      • ph864

        Let see Bush Starts War, that he Lied about , Obama been trying to get out since day one in office. I just watched on You Tube that a retired General Officer said that there was no ISSI before Shrub the War Criminal invaded Iraq , Question is Why is’t Bush in jail being “BOOTY BOY” of the Month for his crimes against humanity

      • strayaway

        No, I haven’t noticed because it didn’t happen. Not sure where “there” is, nouns are nice, but if you are referring to Iraq, candidate Obama promised to get us out of Iraq “immediately” if it was still going on when he was elected. He said, “You can bank on it”. He lied. He kept our troops there until two weeks before the deadline of when the Iraqi parliament had ordered them out. Not only that, he tried to negotiate that they stay there longer but fortunately refused Iraq’s terms. And incase you haven’t been following the news, Obama has since sent 3,000 troops back to Iraq as advisors.

      • Jim Kershner

        And when during this entire time has it been safe or in OUR best interest according to BOTH parties to remove the troops? After all it’s their lives that are at stake not yours hero. When the Military deemed it, not when some backseat quarter back thinks it’s best, right coach. No matter what shit you try to sling doesn’t matter. The GOP is a failure, your ideas are a failure. After this next cycle the Republican party will offically become a third party in the State of California. So go ahead and blah,blah,blah

      • strayaway

        As Ron Paul pointed out, it would have taken about six months to withdraw our troops from Iraq in an orderly fashion. We just haven’t had a commander in chief interested in doing so and you are probably prepared to pull the lever for Hillary after she gave away her power to Bush to decide whether or not to go to war with Iraq. Obama has sent 3,000 troops back into Iraq by the way. One of them was killed a few days ago.

      • guest

        So basically, bs bs bs and more bs.

      • surfjac

        Who said I want HRC to run for President? Hopefully, she enjoys her daughter’s new child as a new grandmother and stays the hell out of dc.
        And, every one of the sob’s on the right wanted Obama’s head on a platter from day #1. And for all their bs and fluff, they never bothered to condemn him for the one thing they could have: his failure to investigate the bush admin for torture.

      • strayaway

        Was my presumption Incorrect? If so, sorry for implying you might be a Hillary supporter. Has water boarding, loud repetitive music and other ‘soft tortures’ come to an end since Bush? If not, it will be difficult condemning Bush for doing the same. There is more than “one thing” by the way.

      • Abigail Adams

        Nothing wrong with water boarding those prisoners of war from whom we can get important information. Remember who they are and why they are there– they intend to kill us, and so Yes, I am in favor of doing whatever is necessary to get whatever we need from them. Waterboarding, loud repetitive music, soft torture….. those are preschool measures compared to what terrorists do to their captives.

      • Molly Waldring

        “Soft torture” — go fuck yourself, you fascist scum.

      • Abigail Adams

        you’re an idiot

      • strayaway

        Those are examples of “cruel and unusual punishment” all the same. Such things are illegal under the 8th Amendment.

      • Abigail Adams

        There is nothing cruel and unusual about water boarding.

      • strayaway

        Some of us would disagree.

      • Abigail Adams

        I am a hard-right Conservative. Never a progressive.
        Waterboarding does no harm; it only scares. Remember that those who our gov’t water boards does so bec the subject has info that we need. Also remember that we are not water boarding innocent sunday school teachers— they are terrorists. Not nice guys. IMO, water boarding is very tame for that kind of person.

      • strayaway

        Terrorizing people by constraining them and running water up their nose is more authoritarian than conservative. it is cruelty, it is unusual, and it is bizarre behavior for any civilized person. I reject your creepy version of conservatism regarding this matter. Since when have the heirs of Calvin Coolidge developed a sadistic bondage fetish?

        The other Abigail Adams pushed for women’s rights and opposed enslavement but you, in this matter, sound like an authoritarian dominatrix.

      • Skip Tilley

        Torture has been proven time and time again to be an unreliable means of extracting information

      • Jim Kershner

        And you’re full of shit, where’s the video of YOU volunteering to demonstrate how it’s done, I don’t see one because your candy ass can’t handle it. If the government of these United States put Japanese soldiers to death for waterboarding Americans then obviously OUR government considered it a war crime.

      • Abigail Adams

        wow, Jim, you’re a big talker. When you can’t make a point, you revert to base language. Remember, those who we water board aren’t Sunday School teachers; they are CRIMINALS. They are the worst of the worst, and whatever it takes to get the info we need or want, I say Yes, by all means do it.

      • Jim Kershner

        And just how thick does one have to be before the term “NO Actionable Intel” sinks in? It has been proven over and over that waterboarding gets you nothing of value, and it is a crime, but i guess you can continue being stupid and the ends justify the means will continue to breed hatred toward the USA because we all know how well the moronic Republican party have such a bang up job in Iraq. They couldn’t even invade the right country so they picked on one that wasn’t a threat.

      • Abigail Adams

        Why don’t you go keep the poor innocent fellows company, Jim?

      • Jim Kershner

        Funny how 150 of those so called criminals don’t have a single god damned charge against them otyher than they were in the vicinity when they got picked up, and now your cronies are afraid to release them cause they might be anger afer ten damn years, ya think!

      • Jim Kershner

        Please, as if nothing has changed, you’re such a fraud, you know damn good and well Obama has outlawed waterboarding so don’t act stupid

      • strayaway

        Google “torture under Obama” so you don’t have to be stupid.

      • Michael C. Thompson

        Hillary is very likely going to be the nominee, though I wish someone like Elizabeth Warren had a shot.

      • Claire Wood

        Elizabeth chose to not take a shot. I think she is having so much fun as a Senator that she may just hang out there for some time. I do hope so as she is an excellent advocate for all of us. A worth successor to the Senate Seat held by Edward Kennedy

      • Jim Kershner

        He didn’t go after Bush because of the Racist Right oh I meant Republicans

      • regressive teaparty trash

        the worst of bush???
        dude———————

      • Michael C. Thompson

        Unfortunately neither party is particularly interested in fixing anything right now. The best we can hope for with the election of a Democratic president is that it at least symbolizes we’re willing to consider being rational in terms of policy. Even if Democrats are hypocrites who do little to further the progressive cause.

      • strayaway

        Bernie Sanders or Brian Schweitzer? Hillary doesn’t meat your criteria.

      • Skip Tilley

        I think you meant meet

      • strayaway

        Thank you. Oh, and your sentence should end with a period.

      • adcbeast

        Stray DOOOSH … Obama was the impetus for the Iraq Status of Forces agreement to leave signed by Bush ..

        Obama had zero opportunity to leave Iraq any quicker than we did .. the amount of time to pack our S and get out took years ..

        You need a mental health evaluation ..

      • strayaway

        Candidate Obama promised to bring the troops home from Iraq immediately if elected President. He said it would be the first thing he would do. He lied. Instead, he kept our troops there until one month before the Iraqi parliament had ordered our troops out; a declaration made while Bush was still President. Obama was still trying to negotiate a new agreement to keep our troops in Iraq longer until a couple of months before he got the last of them out. At any point in time, we could have had our troops out in an orderly withdrawal in between 3-6 months time. Your posts are full of nonsense.

      • Dave Chickenman

        th reality on the ground wouldnt allow it. we never should have gone to iraq,but we wwere stuck there to prop up the government there. even with us there it was shaky at best!

      • strayaway

        So why was candidate Obama making those promises and why did Hillary vote to involve us there in the first place? Why didn’t Obama and Hillary prop up the anti-Islamic governments of Libya and Syria if it propping up the government of Iraq worked so well for Obama?

      • Bob

        Ok how many lives lost Libya vs Iraq ?

      • strayaway

        Estimates vary between 2,500 and 25,000 deaths in Libya. Are you saying that’s ok if victims of Obama/Hillary policies aren’t Americans? If so, then according to your logic, its ok to bomb and kill unlimited numbers of people as long as no Americans are killed e.g. Libya, Serbia. Maybe you could explain your morality. Of course it doesn’t end there. Because of idiotic foreign policy in Libya, there was Mali, Benghazi, the theft of 200 US surface to air missiles that still haven’t showed up, Islamic training camps being set up in Libya, and now the immigrant portal to Europe. Obama’s legacy is ongoing.

      • Jim Kershner

        Estimates from Fox are like farts.

      • strayaway

        The 2,500 estimate is from a Russian source. The 25,000 estimate is from the former Libyan government. Since you are claiming both estimates are from Fox News, I would be interested in a link. Put up or shut up.

      • Jim Kershner

        In plain English you are a god damned liar, Bush advocated invading Iraq BEFORE he took office so just how the hell was Hillary an early cheerleader when the facts state different, oh I forgot you’re Republican facts don’t matter

      • strayaway

        As Senator, Hillary voted to give Bush her congressional power to decide for Congress whether or not to wage war in Iraq. Look up the antiwar.com article titled “Hillary Clinton on Iraq” by Stephen Zunes to find out how wrong you are. I’m not even a Republican so you are even a pathetic guesser.

      • Richard Schwartz

        Did you forget that Congress voted yo go into Iraq, including many Democrats, among them, John Kerry and Hillary Clinton.

      • surfjac

        I’m going to give you one million dollars.
        Are you stoked? I’ll bet you are! A million dollars, wow!
        I was lying.

        That was easy.

      • Andrew Campbell

        Not impeachable. He can use American forces when he wants to do so. What you fail to get is that France and Europe as a whole had a greater interest in Libyan oil that the US, which is how Obama justified getting them involved to do a lot of the work.

      • strayaway

        “Impeachable” according to Nader and Kucinich. If we wanted to drag in the Constitution, only Congress can declare war. The Constitution declares the president to be “commander in chief” sort of the top general but generals aren’t supposed to start wars. Congress did set up the War Powers Act to allow a President to take emergency actions on the condition that the President get back to Congress for approval within a designated time frame. There was no national emergency and President Obama failed to follow the guideline. The NATO Charter only allows such military action if a NATO country is attacked. Which NATO country was attacked?

      • Andrew Campbell

        It was allowed and within the time frame so that he did not need to do it. Please give me a break with this nonsense. It was the right thing to do.

      • strayaway

        It was allowed? How so. You are in disagreement with, as mentioned before, Kucinich and Nader not to mention the Pauls. Dictators always claim to be doing the “right thing”. I don’t define Obama as a dictator but am suggesting he was operating outside the law. Worse, he made a big mess participating in the overthrow of Khaddafi. The last I’ve read, Al Queda types are flowing into Libya as a new sanctuary to take advantage of its weak government. Benghazi was just part of the blowback.

      • Andrew Campbell

        What happened in the Middle-East as a whole was a revolution. The people wanted out of that regime and we helped them do it and got out. It is their country and their responsibility. Don’t assume it is so easy to establish a stable democratic country within a couple of years without some form of in-fighting.

      • strayaway

        It isn’t our job to help overthrow governments. Our elected leaders have no Constitutional authority to do so. Libyans, on the whole, seem to be worse off. Egypt is a mess. Christians are being persecuted and killed in some of these countries since the Arab Spring. Islamist bad guys seem to be dominating the opposition to the Syrian government. Our weapons are winding up in their hands. I do agree with your sentence, “It is their country and their responsibility.” Why not just leave it at that instead of inadvertently contributing to killing Christians, creating refugees, and arming Al-Queda in the name of democracy?

      • Andrew Campbell

        All of that would have happened with or without our involvement only it would have taken years of civil war that would kill a lot of people and work to destablize the region, which is not in our national interests. Christians have always been persecuted in other countries, just as Muslims have been here as well. Revolution is messy, do you think our revolution was really much different?

      • strayaway

        Killings of Christians have increased exponentially in places like Libya, Egypt, Iraq, and Syria where the US has intervened. Women are losing their freedom in these places. You don’t think that we destabilized the region? Russia is now supplying Syria with advanced fighters and weapons to counter ours weapons. We are losing ground fast in the mid-east, North Africa, and Ukraine. Remember all the people who were claiming Obama was such a good chess player and had Putin on the run. Where are they now?

      • Andrew Campbell

        Well let’s be fair, which country was invaded first? Iraq, that was a stupid war by GW, there was never an established link between Hussein and Bin Laden, they hated each other. Christians have been getting killed, just like every other religions have been victims, for a long long time. Let the proxy war be fought in Syria, why on earth would you bother two enemies fighting each other? Obama got what he wanted there, it is not our business. If Russia was heavily influencing Mexico and a revolution was happening there that was not pro-US, then we would be worried and upset just like Russia. Please don’t tell me Ukraine is similar to the Mid-East. Ukraine had a democratically elected government but just didn’t like the leader.

      • strayaway

        It was a stupid war started by Bush and fostered by others including Hillary and Obama. Christians had some protections under the leaders of Libya, Egypt, Iraq, and Syria. Sine our disastrous interventions, Islamists have had a bigger role in each of these countries resulting in bombings and executions of formerly protected Christians and women have lost rights. Obama didn’t get what he wanted in Syria. Russia made some motions about getting rid of poison gas but now Russia is delivering weapons to Syria and we don’t hear anymore about those WMD’s.

        Most of the world thinks that the US was meddling in Ukraine too fomenting something like a Ukrainian spring. That didn’t turn out so well either. Putin is presently on tour in the Crimea.

        Of her yes vote to give Bush the unconstitutional authority to decide whether to decide for Congress whether to wage war on Iraq Hillary said, “I cast it with conviction.”

      • Judy

        jaylay,
        As for Iraq “Bornherein” I can’t believe there are still some out there that believe all that BS. And as for Libya, my recollections are that Obama didn’t want to do anything at the time, but Hillary and Susan Rice and the UN pushed for it and it was France and their promising to take the lead that finally convinced him. Remember the criticism he got for “Leading from behind” Whenever we take down one of these dictators all we do is make things worse. Iraq is a great example.

      • strayaway

        Iraq, Libya, and Egypt are all good examples.

      • Bornherein Texas

        the war in Iraq was because Saddam started shooting at our helicopters which were enforcing the no-fly zone, agreed to by Saddam when he surrendered. The WMD was knwon to be there, Saddam had already used it against his own people, in fact, Iraqi soldiers were seen wearing chem gear as we moved in to Baghdad, including atropine injectors. Gawd .. is history completely lost on socialists?

      • DavidD

        Where are they these WMD?
        I’m a socialist and was a NBC specialist in our military but I can’t seem to find these self evident WMD.
        Should I check underneath the sofa?
        The Bush administration conducted a structured campaign of lies and falsehoods that they constructed to invade a country that had not attacked us.That presented no clear and present danger to our republic.
        Visit our state’s cemetaries and tell our dead kids your nonsense.
        Go the the VA and tell the amputees your political self serving constructed BS.

      • Bornherein Texas

        If you were there then you recall violations of Iraq s surrender agreement. You also recall Iraq shooting at our aircraft enforcing the no fly zone. You also recall aircraft being flown out of Iraq and hidden in the desert. You should also recall saddam refused and stalled un inspection teams. I remind you of the definition of lie. It’s where you say something you know to be false. Every one knew he had wmd. Even his soldiers seen wearing chem gear and carrying atropine. What lies?
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      • DavidD

        You infer about WMD’s that were not there.None of the causes you cited presented a clear and present danger.
        Congress voted to enforce UN mandates but not full blown regime change war.
        Bush made that choice after a carefully constructed campaign of lies.
        We never have had a decent public forum on this because the only conclusion one can reach after carefull consideration of the facts is that Bush and members of his adminisrtation are war criminals guilty of aggresive war to corner resources that do not belong to us and are subject to International prosecution
        The people who control the economy don’t want that because our history is rife with such activities from the Spanish American War on.They don’t want to fade that kind of heat.
        Instead they get clueless disposible fools like yourself to post dishonest “talking points” to divert the issue of their culpability and get paid stooges in Congress to conduct useless sideshows while tools like you shout Benghazi.
        We are done troll.

      • Bornherein Texas

        Saddam used WMD on his own people. If you really worked NBC you would have known that. You’re an imposter or a liar. You can’t have it both ways.

      • Bornherein Texas

        Poor David.  You’re internal issues have taken over your mind.  This thread is ABOUT benghazi.  You deviated with the crap about Iraq and WMD… remember?  Look back a few pages, you’ll see.  I desperately wanted to discuss Benghazi and the lies that were told BY THE WHITE HOUSE TO WIN AN ELECTION.  NONE of you can dispute this assertion.  INSTEAD you spout off about endless other things instead of matching wits with someone who knows what’s going on.  Face it — Even if I had video of Obama screwing your 2 year old son you’d say it was ok.

      • D May

        nonsense!

      • Bornherein Texas

        Again,  no proof just a word.

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      • D May

        yes u r correct, u have no proof just words. BESIDES we know
        the truth, it shall set u free

      • Bornherein Texas

        Again. No substance. And liberals are supposed to care.

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      • D May

        u are confused, liberals don’t care for assholes

      • Bornherein Texas

        Again,  no substance to your response. I must be correct since you offer no rebuttal, only insults. Thanks for playing.
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      • D May

        Sorry I thought you understood english

      • Bornherein Texas

        No proof=NO ANSWER= YOU LOSE DEBATE

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      • Bornherein Texas

        ooohh thats a simple one Gina Rebecca Fry .. The difference between this attack and the war in Iraq is simple.  (1)The US State Department failed to adequately provide security for our people in Benghazi prior to the attack.  (2) The White House decided NOT to send aid to those under attack (the reference to armed gunships in the air is a “straw man” argument) in any way even though they KNEW within an hour of the start of the attack that it was NOT a protest gone awry.  (3) The White House staff, knowing that this was going to look bad for the president and his theme of having defeated terrorism, INVENTED the story that this was the result of a video that while truthful, was something Islamists didn’t like.  Neither the CIA or anyone else responsible came up with that illusion.  emails show it was FIRST invented by people in the White House determined to blame it on a video. (4) Subpoenaed documents from government accounts have NOT been turned over to the investigating committees; those that have are redacted entirely.  No investigation can take place if evidence is covered up.   — — — —   When this crap hit the fan LOIS LERNER made her announcement about wrongdoing at the IRS.  This was like a burglar, inside a house surrounded by police somehow managing  to start a fire in the detached garage hoping that the police will go to the fire instead of catching him in the house.   Obama and his cronies believed that the people of the US could not pay attention to 2 scandals at once.   To make matters worse, we are finding out now that this administration and the State Department were really in Benghazi transferring weapons seized from Ghaddaffi to the Al Quaeda aliigned rebels in Syria.  This has to authorized by Congress (and we all know about the trouble poor Ollie North had, now don’t we…)
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      • Ronald Mack

        He’s drank the kool-aid, ignore him

      • negoldie

        It’s called the war powers act. The president doesn’t have to go to congress to declare war until a certain period of time has elapsed. It was a joint mission with NATO. Geez

      • strayaway

        1) Obama lied to the American people when he said that there were no US troops on the ground in Libya and then later said they were only “logistical troops.” Obama violated the War Powers Act of 1973 by conducting a war against Libya without Congressional authorization.
        2) The war Powers act requires the president to inform Congress within 48 hours of any U.S. military attack where national security is not at stake. He didn’t.
        3) According to the War Powers resolution, a president who commits troops to war must explain the legal reasoning for doing so within 60 days. That period can be extended to 90 days if the president requests more time from Congress, which Obama did not do.
        4) The NATO charter only allows such actions by other NATO countries if one NATO country is militarily attacked. Libya had not attacked any NATO countries.

        Geez…

      • Kain

        Andrew, what IS in our national interest? This is a serious question so please no sarcasm. I’m pretty naive about politics, just started to get seriously interested the last couple years. Why are we ( at least that’s how it seems) the main country so physically and monetarily invested, and the neighboring countries not? What would be the repercussions if we were to choose to vacate and withdraw our interest in their civil and religious wars. It just seems like for as long as I can remember, the focus has been on them first, and our country gets the scraps. Anyone is welcome to help answer, I only ask for mature responses please.

      • D May

        ok to kill Muslims just not ok to kill Christians?

      • strayaway

        How about leaving all those Muslim countries alone, not killing their people, and finding substitutes for their oil? That would have left people in power who didn’t kill so many Christians.

      • DavidD

        It is now the strayaway show.This faux concern troll has completely diverted the post.
        In the future just ignore him/her.His/her intention is not to add to the discussion but sabotage the thread.

      • strayaway

        Davie, My only point straying from this thread was that I thought that Benghazi was just a symptom of a larger problem. In this case, the larger problem was an unnecessary and stupid attack on the legitimate government of Libya which destabilized that Country resulting in such manifestations as Mali and Benghazi. I can’t help it that some here wanted to defend Obama’s honor and imagined powers to do such things. If they want to argue about it, I’m willing. Or are we all supposed to just respond by saying the usual sheep babble about Iraq is all just Bush’s fault even though Iraq has nothing to do with Benzhazi? Put it this way, Is Benghazi more closely related to Obama attacking Libya or Bush attacking Iraq?

      • regressive teaparty trash

        dude— U write nasty stuff 2 me; then great stuff here!!
        what gives???

      • Rhonda Lowenstein

        The REAL scandal is that republicans don’t give a DAMN about the men who were killed! They are doing the exact same thing with Benghazi that they did with the ACA. Beat the dead horse until you get the result you want! And YES, they ARE making money off of this, like SNAKES.

      • strayaway

        Unlike you, I can’t read the minds of the Republicans you reference. I think the real scandal is that the President with some tacit support from most Democrats and some Republicans involved us in an unconstitutional war that resulted in Mali, Benghazi, and other unforseen calamities.

      • Rhonda Lowenstein

        Actually dummy, I don’t have to read their minds, this has already been proven. Besides, republicans don’t have minds to read.

      • strayaway

        Rhonda, What, proven that Obama, Hillary and the majority of Democrats are as complicit as the majority of Republicans in Iraq and these other military solutions?

      • Jim Kershner

        How can Obama be complicit when he did vote for it . Grab your left ear with your right hand and your right ear with your left hand and pull your hed out of your ass

      • strayaway

        I’ve already spelled out Obama keeping our troops in Iraq until the deadline in case you missed that. Obama also voted to keep funding the war while Bush was in office. Obama has also recently sent 3,000 troops back into Iraq. One was killed the other day.

      • hudent

        another Minion here! Lord help us!!

      • adcbeast

        Stray DOOOSH .. You are a delusional nutjob

      • strayaway

        yawn…

    • Michael D’oremi

      They know they can’t beat Hillary in 2016. This is a desperate hail mary pass to bring her down. They’re going to try everything.

      • Jim Bean

        Hillary is old school beltway establishment. If elected she will jerk policy so far back to the right that Liberals will suffer from whiplash. Of course she’ll tell them what they want to hear and that’s really all they need to stay on the plantation.

      • fifthdentist

        While I agree with the sentiment, I wouldn’t phrase it quite like that.
        I sincerely hope someone decent comes along; however, in the system we have — a right-wing party and a batshit crazy right-of-Mussolini party — we won’t get a decent candidate.
        If it’s Clinton and anybody other than, say, John Huntsman (Ha!), then I would either not vote or hold my nose and punch the button for Clinton.

      • Matthew Reece

        Gary Johnson (L) will probably run again. The Green Party will also field a candidate with enough ballot access to have a chance. It would be better to have no one wielding state power though.

      • ex-GPer

        Are you out of your mind? The Green Party’s never cracked 5% and *will never* stand a chance. Also, I personally took part in GP affairs for several years, and I can tell you, you don’t want them in power.

      • Matthew Reece

        I know I don’t want the GP in power; they would be worse than the Republicrats. But they do have enough ballot access to have a chance if you lean left and want to cast a protest vote.

      • Claire Wood

        Please, no protest votes! That is as good as giving your vote to whichever insane Republican is the nominee!!! If you live in a swing state, please do not do this. Vote Blue No Matter Who because. . #SCOTUS

      • Lilacgypsy

        Bull crap..not in a lifetime …no chance …come back to reality

      • regressive teaparty trash

        matthew remains interseting

      • regressive teaparty trash

        I like that!!!
        ” if elected”
        =====================================
        soothsayer jimbo & his crystal ball

      • roooth

        That is just a lame regurgitation of right wing anti-Hillary talking points. Concern trolling. You obviously haven’t watched her over the decades, or you wouldn’t make such a lame attempt.

      • Lilacgypsy

        Lol stay on the plantation, with you as the master, sir? Jim Beam

    • Bornherein Texas

      are you out of your mind? do you not care about how your government continues to lie to you?

      • Nick Wride

        Hey shitkicker, were you concerned about lies and outright treason when the Cheney/Bush gang was running things?

      • regressive teaparty trash

        do U think that these low IQ inbred white trash regressive racist scum will reply??

      • Bornherein Texas

        you call me racist as if I’m a democrat. whats up with that?

      • DavidD

        Sure you are.

      • regressive teaparty trash

        no “sir” ,,,,,,,, I call U ( actually include you) in ‘racist’
        ………if U were ( are) not U would NOT have cried here–
        ****************************************************************
        what IU have eloquently called you in an aspersive way is:
        non sexual
        alopecial
        micropenile
        onanistic
        socially nugatory
        aging NON gracefully ( see: DESIDERATA)
        eschewing facts/spinning facts
        (probably ) steatopygous

        …………. did I miss anything important?

      • Bornherein Texas

        You missed by failing to contribute. I’m betting your mom and dad kicked you out early because you already knew everything. Go cash your welfare check and turn in that Obama phone, you’re not worthy.
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      • regressive teaparty trash

        (Asian dialect) ” so soddy,,so soddy”
        hey crybaby– hate to urinate upon thy perforated raincoat– im a self employed chef ( se FLA) native to this area,,,been self employed since 1989. ( it gets better)
        my business is 100% tax free CASH ( see: yaay me) and I avoid mean ol mr govt by paying TAX VIA my capital gains in a verrrry healthy stock/option encased portfolio which I do all my trading( 25K in schooling makes me ‘smarter than the average bear/bull’) as well as 2 commercial and one residential ( 4plex) properties ( owned outright since 1998) which generate more than my bills; ergo “passive residual income ” making me financially independent. My business ( 93K last yr) is my play money and ive learned exactly how the taxman ( IRS) navigated to catch NON payers– which means I am NOT wealthy but,,,,,,,,, could retire now and live off of what I already own. but why?? why when I can “cash my welfare check” and suckle my OBAMA PHONE” which low IQ miscreants such as you “think” is the case.
        now that we are ‘better acquainted’ perhaps U can tell me im not only broke but also how poor I look??
        U F*cking crybaby maggot. Go pray ( beg) at your house of superstition ( church)

      • Bornherein Texas

        Exactly why income tax should be replaced by a consumption tax

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      • moe/larry & curly keys

        doesn’t matter 2 me………….I own everything ( which I own!) outright and many merchants I deal with professionally and recreationally love my paying in CASH: ergo———–
        ” no tax”

      • Bornherein Texas

        Ahh. A thief. How fitting

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      • moe/larry & curly keys

        nope—
        according to smegma such as you ( and the zealots in the tea party) I am a ” patriot”
        ====================================
        keep crying

      • Bornherein Texas

        We really should just discuss this over the phone. When is good for you?
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      • moe/larry & curly keys

        im quite selfish– so:
        perhaps u can edify me as2 exactly HOW any audio emanations VIA tele will benefit me!

      • DavidD

        I’m a redneck,hillbilly rural person you might consider white trash though I doubt if you would say it to my face.
        I’ve kicked more than my share of shit as a rural old white Southerner.I wear overalls as they protect my chest when I do hard physical labor which a lot of my working life has consisted of.
        The words you use were used by people of “Quality” down here to put down people who unlike them had to work for a living.They are meant to put us down as worthy of no respect.I’m old enough to remember that.
        If you are not from here you can’t imagine what a bad position that puts you in.
        It is ironic then that a person who represents themselves as a progresive would use them as ethnic slurs and a class putdown.
        Are are you just a troll that enjoys spewing general hateful comments to satisfy your own percieved short comings or do you wish to seriously address economic inequality and other serious issues?
        Get on one side or another as your hatespeak negates any positive contribution in future discussions and reflects poorly on your general charecter.

      • regressive teaparty trash

        wow–
        im so threatened!!
        now that Im efficiently “threatened by someone wi9th no photo and ( of course) willing/ready and able to crush my skull with a flick of your wrist:
        Im supposed to reply with moxie and panache?
        **********************************************************
        (a) I invoked no ethnicity
        (b) I am Caucasian; ergo I can abuse Caucasians with effusiveness and impunity
        (c) im a self employed chef who KNOWS hard work as I have also done much carpentry construction as well as house painting and laying tile. thy jejune attempt 2talk down to me illustrates that indeed are quite properly self-described as a hillbilly and redneck (NOTE: Im born and bread in SE florida; so technically Im also a southerner)

        you “sir” have just been put back into your inbred place. ( 6’3 215 well proportioned athletic and strong lbs,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, say what to your face???)

      • DavidD

        You can’t put me anywhere I don’t want to go.I’m old and I’m sick but i’ve seen blood splatter from the floor to the ceiling and you would not use such slurs on anyone down here without running significant risks.
        If you’ve lived down here as you say you have you already know that.
        Your anonoymous self puffery is grossly amateurish .I’ve worked institutions that such a feeble effort would not even get you a seat in the dayroom of the cell block much less any respect.
        The only reason I am talking to you is to get you to change from a futile infantile style of division that objectively serves the GOP to a more serious discourse that you seem quite capable of. It might be of some positive use.

      • regressive teaparty trash

        im not impressed with your being in a prison,,,, really Im not– shows me u have(had?) a problem socially–
        self puffery? try the word bovaristic– and work upon your spelling

      • Bornherein Texas

        which lies? Definition of LIE: when you say something you know to be false. Even Saddam thought he had WMD. Clinton did too

      • D May

        NONSENSE

      • regressive teaparty trash

        shall we start with tex gov perry’s corruption??

      • Bornherein Texas

        naw — lets stick to the point. Apparently you can’t defend Obama and start name calling like most liberals. Come up with some facts — they really help make your point

      • DavidD

        The point is the contradiction between faux GOP concern over Benghazi and it’s past enthusiastic war mongering in Iraq which left so many of our kids dead.
        As far as you being born in Texas my reply is so what.
        I’m a third generation Texan who can trace his family back to when there was no United States over here and I’m no better than someone who just swore an oath and drew their citizenship papers.
        Your prior posting of delusinal nonsense justifying Dubya’s war is ironic because you now demand facts.
        Like many of your teahadist butt hurt self deluded marginal cohorts I have had to put up with down here you cut yourselves off from the facts a long time ago.
        It is therefore useless to engage you for any other reason than to expose you as a troll trying to sabotage this thread and have no futher association with you.

      • Bornherein Texas

        You’re a special kind of socialist then aren’t you. You still can’t give me a single disputed and settled fact about the Benghazi scandal. You’re boring me, please don’t bore me. Tell what you know about why any of this is not true.
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      • Rhonda Lowenstein

        Sweetie, you don’t even know the MEANING of the word socialist! If all democrats as socialists, then all republicans are cronie capitalistic pigs. I’m guessing you don’t like being called that?

      • Bornherein Texas

        I like capitalism. It’s what made this country great. Hopefully the socialists will move to Venezuela during the purge in this next decade.
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      • regressive teaparty trash

        purge?
        I prefer the altruistic term “atrophying” tea (WHIG) party
        they are already imploding,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, delightful to watch!

      • Bornherein Texas

        Sorry. I tried making sense of this one but not even iambic pentameter helps
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      • moe/larry & curly keys

        datttz be-cuz thou art………………..
        stoooopid

      • Bornherein Texas

        Thanks faggot

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      • moe/larry & curly keys

        awwwwww,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
        white trash low IQ regressive shows hatred of ……?

      • moe/larry & curly keys

        hey white trash,,,,,,,,,,,,,, how (a) old are u (b) when did U even have hair? (c) contact rush Limbaugh for more industrial strength Viagra,,,,U write as if U truly need 2 get laid

      • Bornherein Texas

        Sorry. I tried making sense of this one but not even iambic pentameter helps
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      • regressive teaparty trash

        perhaps assiduously learning more words may help
        ============================================
        ………. naaah- probably not in your acerebral case

      • regressive teaparty trash

        settled by committees?? many,,,,,,,,,,,,,
        disputed by FOX “news” schills? many…………….
        ===========================================
        lets waste some more taxpayer money– akin to repeal ACA/ shutdown GOVT,,,,,
        enjoy Hillary 2016– who ( again) is thy splendid candidate??

      • Bornherein Texas

        You’ve begun stuttering again  take another long drag and recover your thoughts. Email me with a response that includes a sentence.
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      • regressive teaparty trash

        silver medalists ( see: losers) generally reply as such in recognition of getting eviscerated
        I don’t smoke or dink or drug
        ================================
        stutter? only when marilyn lange calls me

      • regressive teaparty trash

        go get him david!!!

      • D May

        we are not defending anybody, just pointing out you are full of shit!

      • Bornherein Texas

        Pointing out means contributing substance. Again,  you’re boring me.

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      • regressive teaparty trash

        my pet argentine TEGU and south American Caiman lizards BOTH get bored easily
        ========================================
        such is the life of the boorish pseudo-intellectual

      • regressive teaparty trash

        did I call a non proper name ?
        ==================================
        XXXXXXXXX!! you lose again lachrymose cretin!
        ***********************************************************
        ( those are names)

      • moe/larry & curly keys

        where 0 where in my above post did I name call?
        calling rick perry ” governor” is name calling??
        im guilty

      • D May

        They lie, and you support rightwing lies to prove your point?

      • Bornherein Texas

        Again, what lies?  Spout about lies but offer no proof?  You probably didn’t take debate in school.
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      • Rhonda Lowenstein

        Are you for real?? Being from Texas, you don’t care that Bush and his idiots lied to YOU and made Texas look like a JOKE??

      • Bornherein Texas

        Which state are people moving to?  The media fooled you again.

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    • Jim Bean

      If the Dems didn’t delay providing the requested information for months or years, it wouldn’t take so long or cost as much, now would it?

      • D May

        turn your news channel, you must of missed ALL THE NEWS!

      • regressive teaparty trash

        his is superglued to FOX “news” and the JEEEESUS channel

      • Rhonda Lowenstein

        The same could be said about the 9-11 commission requests during the Bush years, but I’m guessing you were ok with that. The GOP reminds me of the Italian justice system; keep digging, make up facts as you go along; until you get the results that you want! You are going to ACTUALLY deny that Benghazi isn’t a money maker for republicans and that they are exploiting for dead people and their families for political gain? How dumb and naive you must be!

      • Jim Bean

        Dems had ‘Donate’ buttons on their website pages for Sandy Hook and Katrina. What’s your point? That these things are immoral except when your clan is the one doing them?

      • regressive teaparty trash

        key chowderhead–
        if the repubs are SOOOOO fiscally responsible and paranoid about DEMS screwing up the works in THIS umpteenth committee,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
        ,,,,why not have the UBER wealthy ISSA pay for his OWN committee- chock full of republicans who wont be dissuaded by silly FACTS and can be in control of it? he can write it off– and if he doesn’t find anything he is a hero to tea party trash for spending HIS own money– and if he DOES find something,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,MMMMMMMMMMM!

      • Jim Bean

        If you cared about the cost (and truth) you’d be demanding the Dems quit dallying and release everything now. This is just typical. Libs gum up the works and blame Conservatives for the clean up costs.

      • moe/larry & curly keys

        funnnnie how U avoided opining upon my suggestion
        ———————————————————————-
        jimbo strikes( out) again

    • william boyd

      when you are born with a silver spoon in your mouth and a rose else where Ms. Lowenstein you should not point fingers

    • VoiceofReason

      OH THEN YOU ARE SUGGESTING REPUBLICANS ARE IMMORAL, WELL YEAH.. AND THE SKY IS BLUE !! .. REPUBLICAN FILTH OF THIS COUNTRY !

  • O Happy Day

    It is worse than Watergate

    • RWNJSLAYER

      OH LORD…..here we go!!

    • surfjac

      What is? The bush administration? the heartbreak of psoriasis? the flooding of New Orleans? Lying to America? 9/11? ronald reagan?

    • Nick Wride

      Is it worse than Iran/Contra?

      • DavidD

        Oh it’s much worse.A black guy got elected president twice so they are going to obstruct and lie to overturn the will of the majority.
        The idea of anybody but white people can be in authority is deeply upsetting to them because they live in fear and hatred and even if it didn’t exist they would labor to create it.
        No one in their right mind would give them any chance at power otherwise.

      • regressive teaparty trash

        don’t forget: white CHRISTIAN ( see: voodoo) trash who hate equal rights for anyone OTHER that the aforementioned white religious ( superstition) trash who are afraid of non-procreational sex
        ==========================================
        PRAISE JEEEEESUS— and pass the tax-free tithe

    • regressive teaparty trash

      we love regressive small dicked loser crybabies who post and disappear

  • Terrie Watkins

    What I find most interesting is that many of the rank and file GOP’ers seem to think Benghazi has something to do with a “cover-up” by the administration on some alleged negligence that caused the deaths. The supposed “scandal” is actually about a cover-up of the cause of the attack- video vs terrorists- which is scarcely a real concern. It is quite obvious that given the events unfolding in other middle-east countries based on the video, it might have precipitated Benghazi. When it was confirmed that was not the case, that information was released. If you read many of the postings of the virulent anti-Obama faction, they talk about the deaths in Benghazi as if that were the “scandal”. FOX and associates have sold their story well to make Benghazi a buzzword to incite their ill-informed followers- and it works every time.

    • surfjac

      Exactly

    • Bornherein Texas

      What you will soon find out is that the CIA was covertly transferring arms (stinger missiles) to Al Quaeda backed rebels without congressional approval (remind you of Iran-Contra?) See the real cover up is that Obama is in bed with the Muslim Brotherhood and CAIR. Several MB are serving inside the white house now. But thats ok, you keep screaming about conservatives. One day you’ll wake up.

      • D May

        didn’t you vote for the iran/contral criminals? Bet you cant sleep at night knowing how criminal your party is!

      • Bornherein Texas

        Those criminals were arming rebels opposed to a communist dictator setting up in our hemisphere. What’s wrong with that?  Or maybe you’re fine with communism.   Liberals.
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      • regressive teaparty trash

        of course!!! we ALL know that “Obama….hes a muslim,,,were all gonna die” rant from white trash ignorants.
        so- is he muslim or radical Christian? FOX “news” and such luminaries don’t know– accusing him of both.
        ========================================
        maybe hes a martian

  • surfjac

    Deal.

  • Bornherein Texas

    ooohh thats a simple one The difference between this attack and the war in Iraq is simple.
    (1)The US State Department failed to adequately provide security for our
    people in Benghazi prior to the attack. (2) The White House decided
    NOT to send aid to those under attack (the reference to armed gunships
    in the air is a “straw man” argument) in any way even though they KNEW
    within an hour of the start of the attack that it was NOT a protest gone
    awry. (3) The White House staff, knowing that this was going to look
    bad for the president and his theme of having defeated terrorism,
    INVENTED the story that this was the result of a video that while
    truthful, was something Islamists didn’t like. Neither the CIA or
    anyone else responsible came up with that illusion. emails show it was
    FIRST invented by people in the White House determined to blame it on a
    video. (4) Subpoenaed documents from government accounts have NOT been
    turned over to the investigating committees; those that have are
    redacted entirely. No investigation can take place if evidence is
    covered up. — — — — When this crap hit the fan LOIS LERNER
    made her announcement about wrongdoing at the IRS. This was like a
    burglar, inside a house surrounded by police somehow managing to start a
    fire in the detached garage hoping that the police will go to the fire
    instead of catching him in the house. Obama and his cronies believed
    that the people of the US could not pay attention to 2 scandals at once.
    To make matters worse, we are finding out now that this
    administration and the State Department were really in Benghazi
    transferring weapons seized from Ghaddaffi to the Al Quaeda aliigned
    rebels in Syria. This has to authorized by Congress (and we all know
    about the trouble poor Ollie North had, now don’t we…)

    • Jeff

      Most of what you scribbled above has been debunked….over and over again.

      • Bornherein Texas

        Show me the proof of this debunking you speak of. Be specific, not simply gay.

      • Jeff

        As if calling me gay was some kind of insult.

      • regressive teaparty trash

        he is NON sexual as even rush Limbaugh “industrial strength ” Viagra doesn’t offset his alcohol-laced micropenile problems

      • regressive teaparty trash

        hey; old non sexual crybaby white trash low IQ imbecile…….
        U can only call me gay

      • Bornherein Texas

        Yawn.  Again,  no specifics.

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      • regressive teaparty trash

        hey gerbil master—
        whats your take upon my ISSA suggestion??
        ==================================
        ( ” yawn” )

      • Bornherein Texas

        Which was……..

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      • regressive teaparty trash

        im not rewriting it—- you ignored it so that’s your insipid answer
        =================================
        bottom line? ISSA is avoiding this committee!!

    • BlackRonin

      Are you stupid? This has all been proven completely false.

      • regressive teaparty trash

        not stupid………………
        …………… a marinated lemming

      • Bornherein Texas

        Show me the proof of this debunking you speak of. Be specific, not simply gay, dude

      • regressive teaparty trash

        hey fat ass / balding imbecile:
        please SHOW where –in my above post– I infer DEBUNKING
        ========================================
        and then: why not have all of your regressive crybaby white trash tea (bag) party religious scumbags pay for the NEW “BENGHAZI” committee out of THEIR well-lined pockets???? ISSA is wealthiest congressman; U clownd CLAIm such fiscal responsibility yet U keep screwing America by wasting MY ( and YOUR) tax dollars on BS such as repeal the aca ( now working),,,, GOVT shutdown ( see: 24.125 BILLION lost) and now the newest insteallment of BENGHAZI!!!! if U lachrymoise cretins are soooooo worried about democratic obfuscation/interference,,,,, PAY4THE COMMITTEE with YOUR money and control all input and outcome!!!
        ……..silly me—

      • Bornherein Texas

        So because the white house stonewalled the investigation, refused to allow witnesses to be interviewed, redacted documents, denied they existed and finally only released some as a result of a lawsuit by a private organization, you think it’s over? And about cost.  Only One GOVT Employee Lost his job in the shutdown, there was no expense to the shutdown except what was invented by Obama like closing mt Rushmore. Recall why Obama shut GOVT down?  Because Ted Cruz wanted to delay obamacare. Obama agreed and delayed it. Funny how that works out, right? Question. .  About cost. How much is too much to protect my rights?   I already know yours are worthless since you’ve given them up.
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      • regressive teaparty trash

        not very erudite; are ya??? here is todays history/political lesson:::::
        ONLY the HOUSE can shutdown GOVT…
        and——————————–
        the HOUSE is (now) controlled by,,,,,,,by,,,,,,
        regressives!!!
        =======================================
        and; in linbe with FOX “news” protocol,,,,,,you didn’t reply to my ( splendid) suggestion that ISSA and CO fund the committee themselves( see: repub “fiscal prudence”) and cut out those commie bastards ( dems) and totally have control over EVERYTHING
        =========================================
        mustve slipped anatomically inept ‘mind’?

    • JohnC

      “Mission Accomplished” George Bush May 1 , 2003.

      • Bornherein Texas

        “Al-Qaeda Is On the Run” Obama April 2012

      • moe/larry & curly keys

        Obama has killed 12 of the top 13 al Qaeda cretins,,,,,,,,,,
        technically; they are NOT on ” the run” as dead don’t ambulate

    • guest

      Was gonna start to give you examples on why everything you just said is incorrect, but it appears everybody already understands that here.

      • Bornherein Texas

        uhhhh… no. no they haven’t.

    • Marina

      Texas. Enough said.

      • regressive teaparty trash

        hey!!!
        im a (sick of) cowboys fan

      • DavidD

        I prefer the New Zealand All Blacks RFC myself.American football is World War 3 with commitee organization.

      • regressive teaparty trash

        and tax free!!!
        football and religion— its the American way

      • DavidD

        General simplistic comments about a complex political situation here in Texas are as silly and worthless as this pitiful troll is.
        Most people here have given up on electoral democracy a long time ago.
        Ill intentioned people who for no other reason to gratify their need to fell that they are better than us shouting insults from the sidelines are counter productive to us who are trying to do something here.
        Your comment says more about you than it does about us.

    • Nick Wride

      Hey TexASS, Republicans in the House slashed funding for embassy security 2 years in a row. All the rest of your bullshit is debunked Fox “News” garbage, fed to the ignorant, easily led sheep they cater to.

      • Bornherein Texas

        The person in the state department responsible for upgrading security TESTIFIED that funding was NOT an issue. Watch the news, educate yourself before you comment.

    • regressive teaparty trash

      hey crybaby—————————— try this on for size:
      if (“IF”) ISSA is SOOOO adamant about getting to the bottom of this “MASSIVE COVERUP” and he– as all regressive tea party trash — claims to be financially prudent,,,,,,,,,why O why O why doesn’t he and the wealthy scumbags who are crying about democrat obstruction in this simply pay for OUT OF THEIR OWN POCKET- a committee and get the “results” the claim exist?
      ===============================================

  • Nick Wride

    Where was the Republican outrage over the 50+ Americans killed in embassy attacks during the Cheney/Bush REGIME?

    • regressive teaparty trash

      attending a profitable john birch society dinner function

    • D May

      Not only did they not care, they dont really care about the dead people now, its all about gotcha bs. BTW when was the right-wing nuts ever correct on anything? They have been wrong every time they have said anything about anything!

  • Edward Krebbs

    Like I said on the Rumsfeld article, remember when the GWB admin didn’t allow pictures of the coffins ? War dead ? What war dead ? (Not to mention the number of folks who came back with traumatic brain injuries).

  • rossbro

    Drown the politicians. End this misery.

  • Dave Leash

    Incredibly stupid argument on so many levels. First of all NOBODY died in Watergate. Obama nowhere to be found 9/11/12 for hours, jets off to Vegas to hang with Beyonce and Jay-Z and leaves behind 4 Americans to die.. great commander in chief and leader there. Knows there is an election coming up, so need to keep the “Al-Qada is on the run” narrative intact, so the video BS story ensues. And as for 4500 deaths in Iraq, the KIA rate in Afghanistan is 4 times under Obama that is was under Bush. Where’s your bleeding heart concern there? Obama backs Muslim brotherhood in Egypt which is Al Qaeda backed, does nothing in Iran which is months away from a Nuke, Putin owns him. Obamacare a trainwreck, that about covers half of his mess he created. I had to lower my IQ when i saw “Forward Progressives” so I hope this will break it down to simple levels.

    • regressive teaparty trash

      you should have your own eponymous show on FOX “news”
      ===============================================
      spinning class; of course

      • Dave Leash

        And you sound like you’ve been drinking the Obama Fool Aid. Hillary 2016 !

      • regressive teaparty trash

        nope— I only do YOO HOOs
        ============================ but: I am very appreciative of seeing ( reading actually) another crybaby FOX “news” watcher–you– who uses old beaten up rhetoric ( ” drinbk the kool aid”) instead of having any intellect to use something new which might show off your(???) ability (????) to “think”
        keep crying———- and remember: Obama is a white hating muslim martian radical Christian born in zanzibar

      • Dave Leash

        Oh the irony.. i presented my argument in my very first statement and instead of responding with your own brilliant ideas toward refuting my points, your response was to Google “eponymous” to make yourself sound intelligent. Projection, elitism- more great traits that liberals possess while having no facts to back their arguments.

      • regressive teaparty trash

        (a) actually there crybaby– I replied to your archetypal FOX “news” verbosity by abuuuusing you (b) my lexiphanic vocab is well beyond need of a thesaurus; but please humor me here— exactly HOW would I know what to GOOGLE ( I use yahoo) if I DIDNT ALREADY KNOW THE F*CKING WORD???
        here are some which apply to thee;
        steatopygous
        micropenile
        alopecial
        rebarbative
        fatuous
        nugatory
        jejune
        ==============================
        studied language/words/syntax in college- made it a HUGE hobby of mine after and up2today

        ,,,,,,and what facts am I not presenting? I do indeed drink YOO HOOS,,,, ( A & W birch beer rules also)

        OK– let us play!!

        please submit forthright from the past 25 yrs all republican federal policies which have HELPED all americans and then U may bring forth democrat ones which have hurt America ….I will eagerly reply with repub policies which have eviscerated us and then democratic ones which have gloriously helped
        =====================================

        ” please continue; GOVNA”
        ,,,,,,,,,,,,, care to embarrass thyself more here??

      • regressive teaparty trash

        hey crybaby— no reply to my (below) post???
        …………… too embarrassed?

  • RHoover

    I wonder if he asked why the House of Representatives voted to cut funds to State Department?

    • regressive teaparty trash

      noooooooooooooooooooooooo—————-
      not in the regressive tea party instruction manual

  • Mandy Sue

    Unless and until progressives in Congress AND the rest of us are willing to fight back and STAND UP to these cynical lying bastards, in very clear terms, this tactic might pay off for the righties, so please, don’t feel compelled to be polite. Be outraged and insulted. This is our democracy at stake and those bastards are playing to win and they play dirty. We need to call it what it is, every chance we get. It’s called fighting back. As John Fugelsang says, let’s stop being piñatas.

    Fight back on Facebook and fight back to your friends and family (though more politely there), and when you overhear bullshit out and about, fight that, too. Fighting back means sharing a fact or asking a question like Jake Tappers asks. Make them uncomfortable.

    If you’re out somewhere and Fox Noise is on, demand that that shit be turned off and if it’s not, leave (if you can). We’ve got to start calling these people out because (1) they’re liars, (2) they’re selling us all out, from greed or ignorance, and (3) we don’t have much time left to turn this ship around. Plus, remember, they’re lying and most of them know it. The rest are just idiots and need to be saved from themselves.

    • MLR

      Couldn’t agree more!

    • Bornherein Texas

      which part is a lie please?
      No specifics? How do you usually participate in a debate? Throw around insults? Kindergarten taught you that wasn’t nice (maybe you were absent that day.)

  • MLR

    I am so disgusted that conservatives have turned Benghazi
    into an ATM machine. I can’t even imagine how the families must feel. They
    don’t give a damn about the tragedy itself, they only care about fundraising
    and riling up their base which is so damn gullible. Truly fucking disgusting
    and just when I think conservatives can’t sink any lower, they actually do.

    • Bornherein Texas

      awwww how sad that citizens want the truth about something so horrific.

      • Catch 22

        So the numerous committees that have sat and collected all that data were useless? Really? Can I have my money back, please…

      • Bornherein Texas

        Most of the evidence you speak of was blacked out. The rest has not been received. The survivors have not been interviewed but hidden and told not to testify or lose your pension
        Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android

      • regressive teaparty trash

        and of course U can DOCUMENT that?
        NO?
        geeeeeeeeeeee…………… what a surprise

      • Bornherein Texas

        Of course.

        Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android

      • regressive teaparty trash

        please proceed “govna”

      • Bornherein Texas

        So if i read your resume correctly you’re a wealthy capitalist who deftly avoids paying taxes.  We have things in common
        Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android

      • moe/larry & curly keys

        nope— financially independent: much different than ‘wealthy’
        ====================================
        avoid taxes? I pay what I make on capital gains and my income producing properties (3),my business is 100% cash: ergo ”uncle sam” is taken care of JES enuff’ 2 keep him at bay
        I doubt U are wealthy: wealthy people do NOt make that claim.
        we have very little in common.
        ***************************************************
        and we still await your documentation of your insipid erroneous fabulist claim that survivors will lose pension if testifying
        ‘ please continue; govna’

      • Bornherein Texas

        A matter of degrees. Your a tax avoiding capitalist with money

        Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android

      • moe/larry & curly keys

        spinning class still in?
        where 0 where is your ( nonexistent) documentation???
        ******************************************************

  • krell51

    All this site needs is a worker marching FORWARD under a RED Flag and a bust of Lenin. Communist became progressives when that name had too much evil associated with it, same ideas.
    Arming our enemies, people who’s stated goal is to kill us, is TREASON, so go ahead and march forward progressives, right over the clif.

    • Neoconhater

      Still a sore loser?
      The election was well over a year ago…..

      • regressive teaparty trash

        and his “erection” is farther back time wise– ergo his frustration

    • Catch 22

      Awwww… do you need a hug…

  • asdf

    I’ll take Republicans seriously when they subpoena the previous administration for their ACTUAL scandals. I wonder why they wont… hmm.

  • imapayne

    Beirut Beirut Beirut…………..

  • JackLinks

    I wonder how many of the “Benghazi” drum beaters actually know that the four men who were killed in Benghazi were killed at different locations and on different day’s?
    Don’t believe me, then Google it?

  • AlCum

    No Republican has yet articulated a coherent assertion of anything remotely scandalous involving Benghazi.

    • regressive teaparty trash

      praise jeeeeeeeeeeeeeesus and pass the tithe!!

  • Michael C. Thompson

    Notice how the GOP gets most of its funding from bullshit schemes… People are throwing cash at them for talking about Benghazi, gay marriage and abortion, meanwhile a bunch of megalomaniacal asswipes are draining our country’s economy dry and stashing their money in foreign bank accounts. These are the same assholes who fund the GOP, so no surprise there. I’m disgusted that people in America are letting this happen. Maybe we are getting what we deserved for sitting back and watching this theft occur.

  • Abigail Adams

    What an idiotic remark you made! Comparing Benghazi to Watergate is like comparing pulling Mary’s pigtails to Bonny and Clyde. Watergate was just stoooopid. Benghazi was a terrorist attack perpetrated upon Americans who had asked and begged for help far in advance. Four Americans tortured and slaughtered while Hillary et al watched in real time. They made no attempt whatsoever to help; they didn’t even reply or respond. And we still don’t know where our President was all of that night; we only know that he attended a fund raiser the next day, and so I would imagine that he was fast asleep while the 7-hr terrorist attack raged on.

    • regressive teaparty trash

      hey C*NT—
      tortured???
      and we DEO know where Obama was; so stop being so easy-2-see IGNORANT
      ………….if its sooooooooooo important and the dems are covering up: why doesn’t the party of ‘fiscal responsibility’ pay for it out of their OWN well lined pockets instead of US taxpayers???

  • Matthew Reece

    “Once we see George W. Bush and Dick Cheney put on trial for war crimes, willfully misleading the American people into war and for the deaths of over 4,400 American soldiers in Iraq”
    Let us also see Barack Obama put on trial for war crimes for all of the innocent civilians murdered by drones since 2009. And let us see Bill Clinton tried for war crimes for his bombings in Kosovo.

    • regressive teaparty trash

      mattttthewwwwwwwwwwwwwwww————-
      U do seem insane at times.
      drones killing civilians? AHEM: all is fair in love and war
      ==============================================
      if the so-called civilians were uspest; why don’t they revolt against the scum who is being targeted by us– and is also keeping them under THEIR thumbs?

      • Matthew Reece

        You are defending acts of murder. That makes you the insane one, not me.

      • regressive teaparty trash

        war matt baby;; war–
        I don’t care about 3rd world beggars who have no inclination to help me and my country
        ***************************************************8

        and– U again didn’t answer my question

      • Matthew Reece

        War is legalized mass murder. I don’t answer stupid questions.

      • regressive teaparty trash

        stupid question? asking why those 3rd world beggars don’t revolt against the scum that holds them hostage??
        matt– U beeeeeeeeeeeeee slipping

  • Matthew Reece

    Why would Gowdy need to answer a question about Iraq? He was not in Congress until 2011 and thus had nothing to do with starting or continuing that war.

    • regressive teaparty trash

      gonna agree with ya there matthew
      =============================
      besides; it was a “trap” inquiry

  • marshalladame

    Basically…. Republicans simply hate their President MORE than they Love their country. …

  • hudent

    Yall Obama’s Minions!!!!

    • moe/larry & curly keys

      and white trash regressive crybaby tea(bag) republicans are minions of ” jeeeeesus”???

      • hudent

        U should change it to Manny/Moe & Jack..Minion!

      • moe/larry & curly keys

        awwww,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, did ur voodoo( see: religion) fall down and go “boom” again??
        =======================================
        poor little brainless lemming,,,,,,,,,,,,
        please enjoy Hillary as your white trash “party” of regressive scum withers and slowly fades

  • roooth

    I think the real reason Republicans are trying to create an alternate reality where Benghazi was, as Cheney claimed, worse than 9/11, is because the reality is we have been so much safer under Obama than we were under W that the stark, deadly, contrast between 1 embassy attack and 4 deaths under Obama compared to over ten thousand dead because of 9/11 and W’s illegal war of lies in Iraq, including over 60 dead in over a dozen embassy attacks under W, proves that not only was there no crime committed by Hillary Clinton over Benghazi, we have been demonstrably safer, with better relations overseas, under Obama and Clinton as Sec of State, than we EVER were under W.

    Republicans will actually claim that 9/11 did not happen under W rather than admit how much safer we have been under Obama. Our worst attacks during Obama’s presidency have mostly been by right wing extremist white American males – the Republican base, more than any foreign terrorist. So Republicans insisting we all join in on their never ending Benghazi circle jerk while they ignore all the deaths under W are living in a twisted delusion that we do not need to pretend is real.

    Let’s start talking about the reality of how much better Obama has been for the nation than the color coded, anthrax fueled, Shocked and Awed disaster W, Cheney, and the neo cons were.

  • Donnie

    It’s amazing how blind people are. The democrats and republicans are 2 cheeks on the same ass. Both side lie. It’s the ruling class each blaming each other for the crap they produce together. There were plenty of democrats that went along with Iraq. Bill Clinton said they had weapons of mass destruction before we went in.

  • Dave Chickenman

    he should have pushed for an answer instead of letting him slither out of the trap!

  • KidCharlemagne

    Gowdy didn’t answer because he’s a friggin’ political insect coward. It is the appropriate question and has been ever since the asshat conservative right wing decided to go after Clinton KNOWING or anticipating she would run for president. NOTHING will come of these money and time wasting hearings as they are a farce and an embarrassment to our country. Gowdy is a tool and a worthless toad schlepping for his chickenshit party.

  • J.Z. Slawosky

    Or the 100,000 suicides since this fisco started. Was that mission accomplished ?