Jeb Bush Just Criticized President Obama – For Being Too Intelligent

jeb-george-bushA while back I wrote an article where I declared that I believe one of the biggest issues facing President Obama right now is that he’s simply too intelligent for many Republicans to understand. Now, I didn’t mean that in a “trolling” sort of a way. The main point of the article was to point out that President Obama seems to use “big picture” thinking whereas many Republicans seem incapable of seeing anything past their nose.


It’s why so many of the pillars on which the Republican party is built are simple, easy to remember (and regurgitate) talking points. Just think about it for a moment, can you name anything within the Republican political spectrum that’s remotely complicated? Heck, these are people who brag about wanting our taxes to be done on an index card. An idea that sounds great in theory – until you realize that a tax code that simplified would disproportionally hurt poor and middle class Americans while massively favoring the rich.

Well, in something that almost sounds like satire (even though it isn’t), GOP presidential candidate Jeb Bush criticized President Obama, Hillary Clinton and John Kerry for being too intelligent.

“You don’t have to be the world’s policemen, but you have to be the world’s leader and there’s a huge difference,” Bush said. “This guy, this president and Secretary Clinton and Secretary Kerry, when someone disagrees with their nuanced approach where it’s all kind of so sophisticated it makes no sense. You know what I’m saying?”

“Big syllable words, lots of fancy conferences and meetings,” he continued.

Yes, ladies and gentleman, that’s a Republican candidate for president saying that Obama, Clinton and Kerry are just too “sophisticated” sometimes when it comes to international diplomacy and our foreign policy.

You really can’t make this stuff up; it’s just astounding when you think about it. To Republicans, being educated and having a large vocabulary is apparently seen as something negative and “attack-worthy.”

But, hey, maybe he’s right. President Obama should really do just like his his brother, George W. Bush, did – embarrass the United States internationally almost every time he opened his mouth and invade countries with no strategic exit plan on what to do once we topple that nation’s leader.

Jeb Bush literally criticized the fact that these three individuals are educated and sometimes use big words while discussing complex and complicated situations.


Then again, he is a Bush – and we’ve all seen the kind of idiocy that is produced by that family. While some have called Jeb the “smarter Bush,” (though that’s not really saying a whole lot) it seems that the more he opens his mouth, the more he’s proving to be every bit the fool his brother is.

Because while most political strategists would probably advise someone to distance themselves from one of the worst presidents in our nation’s history, Jeb Bush seems almost eager to remind everyone that if he’s elected he will be every bit the embarrassment his brother was.



Allen Clifton

Allen Clifton is a native Texan who now lives in the Austin area. He has a degree in Political Science from Sam Houston State University. Allen is a co-founder of Forward Progressives and creator of the popular Right Off A Cliff column and Facebook page. Be sure to follow Allen on Twitter and Facebook, and subscribe to his channel on YouTube as well.

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  • Eg Kbbs

    Seems like only yesterday the repub dog whistle was that Obama couldn’t speak without a teleprompter (with the obvious irony of supporting his predecessor, the highly articulate GWB).

    Apparently that didn’t gain traction so they are now arguing the opposite extreme.

    • curmudgeon VN Veteran

      Ever hear him when he isn’t reading someone else’s ideas off his beloved teleprompter? Man sounds like a retard. Er, ah. er, ah! You could replace the guy with an average chimpanzee.

      • OMGface

        I would bet money that your IQ is just over half of his, and i am being kind. Forget the other endowments you were not born with and seem unwilling to earn to any degree at all.

      • Jay Greenburg

        You’re being way too generous.

      • curmudgeon VN Veteran

        The National Institutes of Health have announced that they will no longer be using rats for medical experimentation. In their place, they will use attorneys. They have given three reasons for this decision:
        1. There are now more attorneys than there are rats.
        2. The medical researchers don’t become as emotionally attached to the attorneys as they did to the rats.
        3. No matter how hard you try, there are some things that rats won’t do.

      • Jim Claypool

        This was a letter to the editor of a medical journal about 25 years ago. I remember reading it. It was a response to an article about the shortage of laboratory rats.

      • grannieannie2

        Copycat!

      • OMGface

        I kinda hope not…I mean, there is but so much abysmal I can take.

      • curmudgeon VN Veteran

        Did your mother get her doctor son too? I bet you are the family “Dumb kid”.

      • curmudgeon VN Veteran

        Would you be so kind as to post both your boys IQ and his college grades. Curious what you base that great intelligence on. There is nothing to base it on as his professors can’t even remember him and all we have to on is the rhetoric of a bunch of liberal idiots pretending to be reporters and journalists.

      • OMGface

        I can even imagine what, it must be like to settle for a life of the kind of poverty that marks yours. I can not even begin to imagine that horror.

      • AKRNC

        Graduating magna cum laude from Harvard is proof of far more than mediocre intelligence despite your idiotic statement. His professors DO remember him and have spoken about him in very positive terms. The following link is only one of several who have spoken about what they believe was an exemplary student who stood out among many. Lie all you like as President Obama’s legacy will speak for itself and he will be remembered with pride for all he accomplished for the country despite the GOP’s desire to ruin him. Just imagine if they had behaved as expected and worked with the President, how great things could be today. Instead, they chose to be negative and try to ruin him from day one. Sadly, it just brought them down further. Good riddance to the trash that is the GOP of today. Phttp://www.npr.org/2012/05/22/153214284/obamas-harvard-days-began-with-exclamation-point

      • curmudgeon VN Veteran

        My retarded liberal friend. You are full of Bull and I’m sure you are the first one aware of it. Obama is a mystery and according to those who knew him earlier at Occidental there is no way the Black Messiah should ever have been admitted to an Ivy League school. Don’t you ever wonder who besides Soros is pulling his strings? You liberals are unbelievably naive little people. Why do you people harbor so much hatred for those who do not agree with your stupidity?

      • Joni McMillan

        Oh my! You belonged to MENSA? I don’t think so.

      • curmudgeon VN Veteran

        Your ‘not thinking so’ did not cause my give a sh!t meter to budge off zero. Someone die and make you Queen or something?

      • Cherylln

        Uh, getting confused here curmudgeon. You seem to be the one loaded up with hatred. I was feeling nothing but interest and camaraderie until you started posting.

      • curmudgeon VN Veteran

        Yes, I did notice that all you weak minded liberals flock to sites like these where everyone agrees with everyone else. It’s that diversity you all love so much.

      • Robin Johnson

        And ignorant conservative assholes follows us…..

      • noah vail

        why do you people harbor such rancor and hatred for a man just because he is black? and don’t even tell me it isn’t racism, the tea party started in on him before he was even elected and showed any of his agenda…oh, I know why, because he didn’t agree with your stupidity…

      • curmudgeon VN Veteran

        Noah, why are you such a posturing and pompous ass? That seems to be a constant trait among all the self appointed intellectual thought police on this site. BTW, I dislike Obama’s White half as much as his mixed breed half. It’s the Communist portion of the a-hole that upsets those of us who love America, but are ashamed of our current government. Perhaps your outlook will improve if you find a job and start paying taxes? We can hope.

      • Dez

        Communist? Maybe if you stopped watching fox news and their fear-mongering you might just have time to actually look up what a communist is. You talk about liberals not having an independent thought, but you sound the same as all the other right wing faux news loving people. It is so hard to comprehend people can be that idiotic.. I won’t even say ignorant because the information is there.. you are choosing to be ignorant and that is the worse.

      • Robin Johnson

        you hate the white side too because his white mother had a child with a black man that produced a President of the United States of America and your pearly white parents had an asshole for a child!!!!!!!!!!!!

      • curmudgeon VN Veteran

        So, she was a slut with a bad case of jungle fever. You sisters hate it that your more successful men always go for White women as trophy wives.

      • Robin Johnson

        I didn’t know Michelle Obama is white!!

      • curmudgeon VN Veteran

        I thought she was chosen for Bathhouse Barry by Reverend Wright to cover for the fact that he was living on “The Down Low”?

      • livesalone

        Communist?? You know you can look up the meanings of words online, right? Or is that too hard for you? Here, allow me to help you….https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communism

      • curmudgeon VN Veteran

        My.my, but aren’t you another self identified clever wit of a liberal retard? Bet your Commie friends think you’re a real riot.

      • Derek Morris

        As proven by your racist remarks…..rofl……we know you….we’ve met you before.You’re an idiot racist asshole. You say “not” but what you write proves it. “You are the weakest link…..bye bye.”

      • curmudgeon VN Veteran

        I manage to live rent free in your little racist bigoted head though don’t I? Nice hat!

      • Dez

        Please stop talking, the more I read your comments the lower my IQ drops.

      • curmudgeon VN Veteran

        Dearie, you are a liberal. Just that fact alone keeps you from becoming any dumber.

      • Mike Estes

        Probably because of all the racist bullshit you spout.

      • curmudgeon VN Veteran

        Mike, I love your avatar. You can substitute any liberal or democrat in the center and still retain the intended meaning. Nothing loonier than a liberal.

      • curmudgeon VN Veteran

        I can’t think of a single one who remembers Barack. Cruz however was the smartest student that Alan Dershowitz ever taught according to him and he is hardly a Conservative voice.

      • Bonione

        I only have one quick thing to comment on and that is….If Barry was so intelligent, why did he have his records sealed and in the articles I read, at least 2 of his professors did not remember him at all. Again, if he was so intelligent why did he apply to college as a foreign student instead of using scholarships? I can only ask how much of backer’s money did any of the schools and “classmates” charge to sing praises and recognition.

      • Django9000

        Ladies and Gentlemen I present to you : the Reason Donald Trump is still in the running.

        Picked straight from the script of Idiocracy himself : the Man who will vote for a Pro Wrestler over a person who demonstrates intelligence – because big words are for pussies, and Brawndo’s made from what plants crave.

        Goodnight.

      • Lou

        147. 3.5. So suck it.

      • curmudgeon VN Veteran

        I bet you would lose your snarky bet little liberal girl. I belonged to MENSA for years till found out that so many were pompous arrogant asses a class that I’m sure you have quite a familiarity with.

      • noah vail

        which means , in real speak, that they wouldn’t buy your bullshit and your rantings about how wonderful the repukelicans are…they are after all, in the main, much more intelligent than you

      • curmudgeon VN Veteran

        Have you extreme left wing ‘folks’ all had government mandated lobotomies or do you just have consensus from the flock in lieu of actually having to form independent thoughts? Amazing how you all parrot the same talking points from the DNC.

      • curmudgeon VN Veteran

        ROTFLMAO. Having read a few books does not make one intelligent. You are a perfect example. You would have to be twice as smart just to be a full wit.

      • DarkSyn

        Oh, look, proof they let any low life moron in the military these days. You served and have no respect for the office of the Presidency? Shame on you.

      • OMGface

        Bam! Cept, see, someone with below zero for himself can not, by definition respect others.

      • curmudgeon VN Veteran

        I bet you scored really high in your lack of humility class. Nobody loves a liberal like the liberal loves itself.

      • Cherylln

        You are so right!!! I love liberals. They are so much fun to talk and figure things out with. You really hit the nail on the head. Fancy that you noticed that.

      • Lou

        Except a narcissitic white male conservative.

      • Clockp

        SHAME on your lack of diversity, leaving out black/native american/asian/african/middle eastern/mongolian/eskimo/hawaiian/italian/french/hispanic/polish, etc. transgender independents! Off to Al and Jesse’s Multicultural Indoctrination center with you!

      • Lou

        Once more, Clockp: what point are you trying to make?

      • Clockp

        Oh c’mon! From the beginning I’ve taken this article to task for its MISLEADING HEADLINE! Jeb Bush is commenting on Obama living in his own dream world, has NOTHING to do with the “intelligence” needed to be an EFFECTIVE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, IE EXERCISING HIS RESPONSIBILITIES AS COMMANDER IN CHIEF OF THE ARMED FORCES, and exercising the LEADERSHIP required of his office, to guide legislation and policy through houses of congress! You DO bother to vet politicians before you vote, to make sure they have EXPERIENCE, SUBSTANCE and LEADERSHIP abilities, as well as carefully consider their background and testimonials of people they hang around with, don’t you? Or do you let anyone in your house that “feels good”?

      • FsmPastapharian

        One of the most ridiculous posts I’ve ever read. Congrats.

      • OMGface

        Have a feeling, back in the day, this pitiable being may have actually ENLISTED in one of the most shameful wars ever….well,, until Iraq. Maybe he sustained neurological damjage? Nah, he was born in a deeply impoverished milieu and never did thing one to earn better…and he never will. Pitiable defining.

      • Fred Felix

        Now be nice, cur probably suffered sever brain trauma during his service to the country

      • OMGface

        OMG, I just posted same above!!!!!

      • curmudgeon VN Veteran

        Isn’t it simply amazing how all you brainwashed libtards all think such identical thoughts? Abe Lincoln was on the money when he stated that some people can be fooled all of the time. Liberals are living proof.

      • Dez

        lol.. the funniest thing about your statement.. is you are being fooled..and you poor guy don’t even know it.

      • curmudgeon VN Veteran

        Are you allowed to go outdoor without adult supervision?

      • Robin Johnson

        if you are I hope you’re gagged and shackled!!!!!!!!

      • JzzE1 .

        Most Vets I know are a lot more intelligent even with TBI. This “cur” guy? not so much

      • AKRNC

        You obviously didn’t hear him when he debated the GOP at their retreat for two hours, told them what a great time he was having and did it all extemporaneously. He is far more intelligent than the likes of you. Teleprompters have been in use by every candidate before him but only when President Obama uses one is it considered a negative. Just more of the same old GOP hypocrisy.

      • curmudgeon VN Veteran

        Aah, my friend your boy is a babbling idiot when not reading from his teleprompter. Yes almost everyone uses them so they can keep track of the lies they are spewing, but Obama is a babbling idiot when speaking off the cuff. Did I listen to him? No. The sibilant esses and the erring and aahing while thinking up his next distortion make me want to puke. When those purple lips are flapping you can be sure Mr. Awesome is lying his butt off.

      • noah vail

        “When those purple lips are flapping”…but you’re not racist, right? lmao at you, you moron…MENSA my ass

      • curmudgeon VN Veteran

        That your face? Sorry, but now I understand why you are so hateful. Mother Nature sure did not bless you did she? You actually voted for the Kenyan? You ‘folks’ are sure naive.

      • Robin Johnson

        You’re calling everyone idiots but you think Hawaii is in Africa…..smh

      • Duckbudder

        Now THAT’S a snappy rejoinder. SCHMUCK. From one Vet to another, FUCK YOU.

      • Robin Johnson

        Babbling idiot, I didn’t know we where talking about g w bush………

      • curmudgeon VN Veteran

        Your boy is unintelligible without his beloved TelePrompTers, but at least it keeps him from speaking in Ebonics.

      • Robin Johnson

        Damn, you just keep putting ol’ gw down… LMAO!!!!!

      • curmudgeon VN Veteran

        You aren’t very good at this are you? I have never heard GW speak Ebonics although I have heard Obonzo speak ghetto and Hitlery use her phony southern accent. What a couple phonies they both are.

      • Duckbudder

        I’ve never heard GW speak English.

      • Brat Wingz

        If you didn’t listen to him why are you posting? haha.

      • Terry Hiller

        Hey, curmudgeon VN Veteran: you’re on LAST YEAR’s hate script, or in the immortal words of GWB: “Fool me once, shame on me. Fool me twice and… uh… err… you can’t be fooled ag’in”. Classic.

      • Derek Morris

        Retard, huh? Harvard Law. are you smart enough to drive by Harvard? Rofl….you read FUX News blips like a Tard. Maybe you did too much dope in Viet Nam. You’re no honorable soldier….no patriot……and we didnt miss that chimpanzee remark neiither…..bet you didnt say that crap to the brothers pulling you out of foxholes…..Isnt it time for you to be dead? Frigging VC rockets always kill the wrong guys….sheesh.

      • curmudgeon VN Veteran

        Wow Derek, You another of the uneducated results of affirmative action? Where did you serve?

    • Clockp

      T’ain’t Obama’s speaking, it’s his THINKING, or lack thereof, manufactured in Obamaland, devoid of the inconvenience of knowledge. Try reading his book of Moi: “Dreams from my father”, whom he never knew.

      • Django9000

        Are you mad that our President actually wrote a Book instead of having someone ghost write it for him?

        ( Dare I ask …do you even know what ghost writing is…?)

      • Clockp

        I’m sad, for the whole country, and particularly those being raped, beheaded, jailed, stoned and tortured in the Middle East, that he didn’t stick to writing books as a profession, for him and the .00000000001% who are his worshipers.

      • Lou

        We don’t worship false idols, unlike Republicans (the “great” Reagan).

      • Clockp

        Really? Like Welfare, Social Security Disability, Medicare, Food Stamps, minimum wage, public housing and all the rest of the handouts in the Democrats snake oil cabinet, while they castigate individual initiative and wealth creation that I do for me and my family as immoral, unless “redistributed” according to their self-anointed expertise on the “public good”? Yessirree, who needs the Bible and the Pursuit of Happiness, when you can sell out to the Democratic Party for the 30 pieces of silver it offers.

      • Lou

        WTF are you talking about? I’m talking about blind faith in PEOPLE, not CONCEPTS. Stay on point, and not the one in your head.

      • Clockp

        No you’re not, you’re talking about worshiping “false idols”, which is MONEY, MATERIAL, THINGS, THE GOLDEN CALF, to which I responded.

      • Lou

        Oh, because Republicans NEVER are concerned about money!

      • Clockp

        Agree. We Republicans are concerned about YOUR AVENUES TO WEALTH CREATION FOR YOURSELF AND YOUR FAMILY, IE FREEDOM AND PRIVATE PROPERTY; NOT SELLING OUT YOUR VOTE FOR HANDOUTS PAID FOR BY MY SON’S NATIONAL CREDIT CARD, AFTER THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY AND ITS CRONIES TAKE THEIR FAT COMMISSIONS OFF THE TOP! Got it?

      • Lou

        You’re talking in circles again. Stay on point or stay out.

      • Clockp

        Nope, sticking to the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution; and not the Manifesto, your frame of reference. Concepts you should learn about: freedom, pursuit of happiness, god given rights, “we the people come together to form a more perfect union”, the fifth amendment, limited powers of government. Shall I continue, or have you retreated to the “progressive” nap room for instruction?

      • Lou

        Retreat, HELL! Have you even read the Declaration and/or Constitution, much less the Manifesto? Or are they just buzzwords to you?

      • Clockp

        I’ve read both. Have you? Got any idea of the principles involved in all three?

      • Lou

        I’ve read all three, so yeah.

      • Clockp

        So what’s YOUR problem with my post about wealth creation?

      • Lou

        I don’t need to repeat things others have better said. To paraphrase Goebbels, one of your Republican models/heroes, you only repeat lies until they become the truth.

      • Clockp

        Yes you do, because I have no idea what you’re complaining about. BTW Goebbels is the inspiration for your lefty Saul Alinsky, and his screed power über alles, the heck with individual freedom, rights and responsibilities IR the Declaration of Independence, and the Constitution. Please restate your thesis. Thank you.

      • Lou

        Then you haven’t been paying attention, sugar boots, and I’m not running a remedial reading comprehension class here. Stop arguing for the sake of arguing; you’ll live longer. Toodle-loo.

      • Clockp

        Whatever suits your fancy, buffalo chip. Have a nice day!

      • Django9000

        So … you don’t know what ghost writing is, I’ll assume.

      • Clockp

        WHOMSOEVER “wrote” Obama’s book, I’m giving the feckless one the benefit of the doubt that he’s read it. Maybe that’s too generous; heck, we don’t even know if he did ANY of his own work in college.

      • Django9000

        Remind me to invest in Tin foil hats , which are clearly coming back style where you live, will you? 😉

      • Clockp

        Sure. What’s your size?

      • Django9000

        I’ll take the family size. Address the bill to your parents and insert your own address as the receiver. My gift to you – so you may recieve your “transmissions” more effectively.

        ( pssst. Its really a gift to yourself. Cuz so clearly ‘gifted’. 😉 )

        Oh and throw a kazoo in there, so can start that band you always dreamed of being in. (About that: I know I shouldnt peek inside your head- it’s just so easy to haunt you in your dreams ! )

      • Clockp

        Thanks for the generosity of your thought, but my parents have both passed. I’ll charge your national credit card the privilege, you won’t pay it back when you and you Democratic Party default on the national debt and saddle the one percent, IE those creating wealth for the hand-out crowd IE Democratic Party voters, with paying it off.

      • Django9000

        My goodness sir – I didnt realize you were such a “Job Creator”.
        Is that the same as your guy’s terms “Right to Work” (i.e. right to limit hours & wages, fire without reason) , “Compassionate Conservatism”, “Trickle Down Economics” and any number of other bandied about euphemisms (‘policy’ phrases that deceptively hide the actuality consequences of their implementation behind innocent seeming, softened language) that have ALL proven completely ineffective and/or false, as they repeatedly get deployed to disasterous results – which tinfoil hat-wearers like yourself keep blaming on Obama or any other democrat that’ll suit you?

        Democrats arent perfect, but generally – Democrats tell us theres something wrong, and we can do something about it.
        Republicans tell us – “There’s nothing wrong – but we can something about That ! ”
        😉

        Wink wink, nudge nudge.
        Fyi – check out Weird Al’s new satire of “Royals” by Lorde , “Aluminum Foil”.
        I hereby dedicate the entire Second verse to you and all your “paranoid-style in politics” buddies. =)

      • Django9000

        Sorry for your loss. So have mine.

        There you have it. A brief human moment in the superficially binary world of two party political discourse.

        It was your party that forced us to default on our debt, sir.

        I’m sorry to call you on it, but these tactics of your current party are only making your ability to argue your own points worse, and worse, and worse.

        Nonetheless – here’s your hat back. I made it for you so – you dont have to wear it if you dont want to. ( but it would be nice.)

        When my college roommate’s doctoral thesis on the southern aristocratic roots of poor white racism against blacks is published, I’ll be sure you get a copy. (or you could just look Up at the people holding you down, instead of across the aisles at your fellow man, who if you realized is reaching across the aisle for you alliance, is the one force the aristocrats always feared: a unified working class. Same as it ever was.) All else is rhetoric. Goodnight.

      • Clockp

        Best wishes to you re/your parents, and to you and your family for President’s Say.

        Where can I send your “vote for Trump” bumper sticker? You can reciprocate with “I bern for Bernie”.

      • Django9000

        You keep using this word.
        I don’t think it means what you think it means. 😉

      • Clockp

        Of which word do you speak?

  • Garibaldi

    I think this article misses an obvious goal that Mr. Bush has in criticizing the president: he is speaking colloquially to an audience that is predisposed to mistrusting “pointy-headed liberals.” I’m sure Mr. Bush is capable of using sophisticated language when he finds it necessary. In the case of the GOP base, it’s not. Simple, declarative sentences are what advertising is all about. Hear “They’re great!” and you think “Sugar Frosted Flakes.” Mr. Bush knows this and is capitalizing on it, whether you and I like it or not.

    • Melissa L.

      Too true! Too true!

    • OMGface

      I don’t disagree, but his comments also reflect something better than I thought was in him….and just maybe, some of the addlepated, impoverished, impaired by their own issues might get it.

      • Hey OMGface!! Hope you’ve been well. Missed you tons!! West Coast Feed, myself and Marsbar have all been posting here: allaboutthetea.com …we would love for you to join us.

      • OMGface

        K……I believe I know who you are. I only have time, and always while multitasking, to be active on one site at any given juncture. right now, it’s this one as opposed to my fav: the best tech site in the world. VERY fun for I and my peeps there to the puter issues of others. Again, only have time to be active on one at a time, so I must demure.

    • ivonne

      I highly doubt it!!!

    • teflonmom

      Most people approach voting for president like voting for prom king…they are looking for someone who fits their image of a leader, and that image is based on a narrow range of factors that are guided by emotions and preconceived ideas of what a leader looks and sounds like. We can only hope whoever wins will have the wisdom to take advice from eggheads, because if the jocks make all the decisions, we’re doomed.

      • OMGface

        Good comments…..but not just President….regard the current incarnation of CONGRESS!! OMG.

  • OMGface

    I am gob smacked. Speechless. Well, almost. Never in my life did I think Jeb was discerning enough to ever get anything nuanced. I started feeling very long ago ago, the reality of our president eludes far too many who are also often riddled with bigotry, truly is, Mr. Obama’s sheer intelligence (for openers) is singular ahd really does THREATEN many, both elected officials and many within the electorate..

    What that speaks, re the level of acuity in post literate America—-we truly are now toward the bottom of the list re literacy—- is very, very troubling indeed.

    • curmudgeon VN Veteran

      White guilt much? Where have you ever seen any proof of Bam’s intelligence? Neither has anyone else.

      • OMGface

        His records from elementary school were posted on the net very early on, not simply accounts, the actual records. What we saw confirmed what is obvious to anyone with health, acuity and half a brain, not just Ivy Leaguers like me: his IQ is 172. 13 points higher than mine. Do you know thing one about The Harvard Law Review? Of course not. Your ability to discern truth any version, is crippled, obfuscated by your bigotry sickness.

      • curmudgeon VN Veteran

        Perhaps he got extra credit for bing partially black? It’s not unheard of and being a giant brain like yourself you probably are quite familiar with the failure of affirmative action.

      • OMGface

        Barack Obama was never a recipient of affirmative action. DEAL WITH It you self hating malignant bigot.

      • curmudgeon VN Veteran

        You may have read a couple books and regurgitated the leftist drivel your professors indoctrinated you with, but you actually aren’t very intelligent are you? Have you ever looked at facts and used any common sense? When did you ever have an original thought? Abe Lincoln stated that you can “Fool some of the people all of the time” and I believe he was thinking of you.

      • noah vail

        you wouldn’t know a fact if it jumped up and bit you on the ass

      • curmudgeon VN Veteran

        I do know however that if it spews from a liberal’s lips it is anything other than a fact. More a knee jerk reaction than a fact.

      • strayaway

        Maybe you are right about Barack Obama not being a recipient of affirmative action but that’s difficult to determine after he sealed all his records. But why would Barack Obama even need affirmative action? He was a beneficiary of white privilege being raised by a white grandmother who was a bank vice-president who sent him to a pricey private school in Hawaii.

      • OMGface

        Absolutely, some of his worlclass endowments are both genetic and environmental re his nuclear milieu…..but, more important, he works hard at everything, including introspection. UNLIKE YOU.

      • noah vail

        so now it’s the cost of his education that you take issue with?…and now he’s a white guy?..your racism is shining in the light of your own making

      • strayaway

        No, I don’t begrudge Obam having a good education. I think he is a good father for sending his daughters to a good private school. That’s what rich white people do. Why should I criticize him for doing the same thing?

        I never claimed Obama was a white guy. Try not to make things up. I instead pointed out that he received a quality education courtesy of his fairly well off grandparents who raised him. They happened to be white.He was therefore the beneficiary of white privilege.

        If I was a racist I would have voted for Obama under whom black income, home ownership, and personal wealth declined relative to those of whites not to mention that abortion, supported by this president, disproportionately effects a higher percentage of black than white children. That’s what you voted for. Who is the real racist between us?

      • Clockp

        he was twice elected because he is perceived as “black”, no other reason. Were that not so, he’d be an author living on minimum wage.

      • OMGface

        Wishing will never make it so, unendowed in every way one.

      • strayaway

        Hey everyone, OMGface is a genius! How do we know? Because she said so. But how do we know that Obama’s IQ is 172 since the most transparent president’s first executive order was to hide his personal records? Was that 172 score his kindergarten evaluation from 1966 or also a more recent record? I mean, before we go merrily repeating something, shouldn’t there be a link verifying that 172 number? My guess is that Obama has a higher than average intelligence but that Obama is not in the same league as e.g. Carter, Bill Clinton, Putin, Einstein, or even OMGface. George W. Bush also graduated from Harvard (MBA 1975).

      • OMGface

        YOU and your virulent self hatred and unaddressd internal issues render you a real enemy of all capable of chasing and evaluating data of any kind. Have you no awareness of any of it? Is that even possible? Apparently….it is.

      • strayaway

        Failed, you failed to provide a link establishing that Obama’s intelligence is 172. You previously wrote, “(Obama’s) IQ is 172. 13 points higher than mine.” I expect that as a genius, you should have been able to do a better job of defending your previous claim.

      • OMGface

        Why would I waste a lifeminute taking anything someone of your ilk posts seriously? I have no need to defend truth…..you make it your enemy for reasons you are clearly not in touch with, only YOU lose.

        If I am moved to respond in any way to your drivel, it’s only for others here to see.

      • strayaway

        What you are establishing is that you cannot substantiate your claim that Obama has a 172 IQ. Name calling and self-aggrandizing are no substitute for supporting your claim. If you can’t substantiate that Obama’s IQ is 172, some people here might begin suspecting that your IQ is somewhat less than 159 as you also claimed.

      • OMGface

        Can you read? You are persona non grata. Did you actually not get that? Only many years of worldclass therapy could make a dent in your heartbreaking pathology, and that will happen when the Pope gets married. And, it’s not just measurable cognitigve chops that matter, those are not earned, it’s also emotional health and working to cultivate THAT to potential the former.

      • strayaway

        You already lost.

      • noah vail

        lost what, moron…you’re the type that votes against their own best interest and you have the nerve to tell someone else that they lost…you’re just a poor joke

      • noah vail

        i don’t doubt it at all …from the level of response that she gives i would judge that she is at least 10 times smarter that either you or “the cur”…isn’t that an appropriate name for him?

      • strayaway

        “him”? Use nouns instead of pronouns for clarity. Please consult our self-acknowledged board genius for posting advice.

      • noah vail

        bought and paid for by daddy, just like the 2000 election

      • strayaway

        It’s fair to say that W. Bush was at least bought and paid for by some of his Daddy’s friends. It’s also fair to say that Jeb is being paid for by the same folks at Goldman Sachs who brought us Obama, Romney, and Hillary. It’s also fair to say that Hillary’s greatest accomplishment was hooking an alpha male and going for the ride.

      • Jay Greenburg

        You asked for it. He graduated magna cum laude from harvard law which means with great honor. Before you claim his grades were inflated because he’s black, I’m a lawyer and here’s how law school works. No student is allowed to put his/her name on exam papers. Students can only put a blind number on them so professors don’t know whose exams they’re grading. He was president of harvard law review and here’s how that works. Students are invited to apply and if they do, they submit a legal research paper with no name but only a blind number. Students on law review choose who they invite to join based on the papers. Obama was also chosen as the assistant for harvard law professor, Lawrence Tribe, who’s one of the top constitutional law experts. Obama worked on books and articles for him. I used Tribe’s constitutional law book when I was in law school. Other harvard professors have talked about how impressed they were with Obama. BTW, did you ever demand proof of georgie bush’s IQ or rather the lack thereof? One more thing, didn’t know the military accepted 8th grade drop outs.

      • curmudgeon VN Veteran

        Lawyer? That answers it. I could tell that you were a self promoting arrogant a-hole, but a lawyer on top of it?

      • OMGface

        Have you no clue that your are a self hating, sour grapes, festering, riddled with envy and feelings of inadequacy being? Is not getting that even possible?

      • curmudgeon VN Veteran

        LOL! You’re a hoot. Self important aren’t you? Please do not breed.

      • Sherry Gillespie

        I only hope that you did not breed. You loathsome, ignorant, self-entitled. angry man. Stop watching Faux News and get a real life or just end the one you’re not happy living now.

      • curmudgeon VN Veteran

        What makes you retards so intolerant and hateful? Where does one watch Faux News? Never heard of it. I usually watch MSNBC for the comedic effect. I hope you borrowed that child so maybe it will have a chance in life.

      • noah vail

        if you had a bigger dick you could breed…jealous much?..

      • curmudgeon VN Veteran

        Noah, Noah you need practice. I had employees who would bury you. You sure don’t have a lot of education do you? Must not have a job either as you spend far too much time trying to impress your tribe on here.

      • curmudgeon VN Veteran

        Sounds kind of faggy to me. You one of those?

      • Joni McMillan

        So much name calling and none of it necessary. You can surely disagree without disrespecting a different opinion. Not just “curmudgeon” but insults flying back and forth. Whatever happened to intelligent discourse? I miss it.

      • noah vail

        you’re dealing with a repukelican and you want intelligent discourse, or even a modicum of civility? surely you jest

      • Joni McMillan

        Please don’t call me Shirley!…..LOL

      • Joni McMillan

        Don’t call me Shirley!…LOL
        Thanks for your comment, Noah. I will rethink it.

      • OMGface

        BLESS YOU, JAY for posting all these ACCURATE DATA!!

      • curmudgeon VN Veteran

        You would not recognize a fact if it bit you.

      • dog lover

        Jay you know what you’re dealing with I hope.

      • OMGface

        He absolutely does…MY kinda human.

      • curmudgeon VN Veteran

        Why didn’t you study something of use to humanity? The only reason we need lawyers at all is for protection from other lawyers. You pukes make the laws and the following day spend all your time figuring out hoes to circumvent them. If you follow any problem back to it’s root cause you will find a greedy blood sucking lawyer with it’s hand in your pocket. Any reason the democRAT party is referred to as the lawyer party? Isn’t Tribe one of the foremost liberal lawyers BTW and why does he look for all ways to work around it? Just curious as you can tell I have more respect for my trash collected than I could ever have for a lawyer.

      • curmudgeon VN Veteran

        Actually I believe Alan Dershowitz says that Ted Cruz is the most intelligent student he ever came in contact with. I suspect that since Ted is a Conservative you will take issue with Alan. I would prefer that I had a daughter working in a New Orleans brothel than a son who lowered himself to be a liberal lawyer, at least she would be doing something useful.

      • Cherylln

        YES. A conservative who would rather his daughter be a prostitute than his son a lawyer.
        Your deep hatred of women is showing. Another earmark of conservatism.

        Strange you said a son being liberal lawyer rather than your daughter a liberal lawyer. So you want your daughter to sell herself as a sex slave to save her brother?

        Tell that one to your daughter and see her reaction. If you were my father I would disown you.

      • curmudgeon VN Veteran

        Why didn’t you leave with the rest of your crowd after the Republicans whipped your politicians so badly? So many others of your breed did.
        The Manitoba Herald

        The flood of American liberals sneaking across the border into Canada has intensified in the past week, sparking calls for increased patrols to stop the illegal immigration. The Republican Party winning the Senate is prompting an exodus among left-leaning citizens who fear they’ll soon be required to hunt, pray, and live according to the Constitution.

        Canadian border farmers say it’s not uncommon to see dozens of sociology professors, global warming activists, and “green” energy proponents crossing their fields at night.

        “I went out to milk the cows the other day, and there was a Hollywood producer huddled in the barn,” said Southern Manitoba farmer Red Greenfield, whose acreage borders North Dakota . “The producer was cold, exhausted and hungry. He asked me if I could spare a latte and some free-range chicken. When I said I didn’t have any, he left before I even got a chance to show him my screenplay, eh?”

        In an effort to stop the illegal aliens, Greenfield erected higher fences, but the liberals scaled them. He then installed loudspeakers that blared Rush Limbaugh across the fields, but they just keep coming.
        Officials are particularly concerned about smugglers who meet liberals near the Canadian border, pack them into electric cars and drive them across the border where they are simply left to fend for themselves after the battery dies.

        A lot of these people are not prepared for our rugged conditions,” an Ontario border patrolman said. “I found one carload without a single bottle of Perrier drinking water. They did have a nice little Napa Valley cabernet, though, and some kale chips.”

        When liberals are caught, they’re sent back across the border, often wailing loudly that they fear retribution from conservatives. Rumors have been circulating about plans being made to build re-education camps where liberals will be forced to drink domestic beer and study the Constitution.

        In recent days, liberals have turned to ingenious ways of crossing the border. Some have been disguised as senior citizens taking a bus trip to buy cheap Canadian prescription drugs. After catching a half- dozen young vegans in blue-hair wig disguises, Canadian immigration authorities began stopping buses and quizzing the supposed senior citizens about Perry Como and Rosemary Clooney to prove that they were alive in the ’50s. “If they can’t identify the accordion player on The Lawrence Welk Show, we become very suspicious about their age,” an official said.

        Canadian citizens have complained that the illegal immigrants are creating an organic-broccoli shortage, buying up all the Barbara Streisand c.d.’s, and renting all the Michael Moore movies. “I really feel sorry for American liberals, but the Canadian economy just can’t support them,” an Ottawa resident said. “How many art-history majors does one country need?”

        Trying to reassure his liberal base and get them to return to the U.S., President Obama reiterated what he said in his press conference following the beating the democrats took in the last election: “I heard from the 1/3 of the electorate that voted, but I also heard from the 2/3 that did not vote.” Who knew the president was clairvoyant?

        He also said the reason the democrats got their asses whipped wasn’t because of HIS policies, but rather because the dems did not get his message out to the people. You gotta love a guy that takes responsibility when something goes wrong

      • noah vail

        ” I would prefer that I had a daughter working in a New Orleans brothel”… sounds like good conservative family values to me…Cur, you my friend are a complete ass.. full of shit right up to your neck, the rest up is cement

      • curmudgeon VN Veteran

        Honestly, that the best you have? You can’t even deliver a decent insult. No wonder you liberals have to get consensus from the flock before you can deliver your utterances. Can you speak an entire sentence without any profanity? Pretty lazy like all liberals and yet you are so self promoting that you dare criticize others. Amazing demonstration of egotism, but par for the breed.

      • JzzE1 .

        They will in times of extreme need such as during a war, What I didn’t know is that MENSA accepted idiots. Oh! wait, they don’t, but any idiot can lie about being accepted.

      • Andrew King

        ohhh, i think you hit a nerve there Jay.

      • noah vail

        well, we’re certainly getting to see the level of your intelligence…rofl

    • Clockp

      Please define Mr. Obama’s “intelligence”, as a military veteran I look to leadership qualities in the people I hire or vote for, raw intelligence or IQ is a much lower priority than emotional intelligence or people skills, of which Obama is woefully deficient, exhibiting virtually none in his background, experiences and (lack of) accomplishments; and his abysmal performance as President, in both domestic and foreign arenas. going back to Harry Truman, I have rarely witnessed a person in a position of leadership with what can only be described as smug arrogance, the unwillingness to engage with anyone other than his small group of trusted and loyal sycophants. Hitler, Stalin, Castro, mengistu, Robert Mugabe, Pol Pot, Mau, Kim il Sung, Arafat come to mind as similar “leaders”.

  • curmudgeon VN Veteran

    Who was it that sold the public on Obozo being intelligent. Still awaiting that flash of promised brilliance after 6+ years. the man is a stumbling, bumbling idiot when he does not have the security of reading someone else’s thoughts off his beloved teleprompter. If he was so brilliant rather than just another affirmative action failure would have his grades and intellectual papers posted as a tribute to his narcissism and self promoting nature. We were sold a bill of goods on this idiot.

    • DarkSyn

      Just going over every post you made, it’s clear you have no facts whatsoever to share. Pretty much proving the point that Conservatives are the least brightest crayons in the box. Here is a list of SOME of the ways the President outwitted the GOP regardless of all that obstruction they did the past 7 years while the Republicans at on their hands and did nothing whatsoever for the American people:

      http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/ten-miles-square/2011/08/you_think_obamas_been_a_bad_pr031810.php

      Notice I provide facts as opposed to your worthless “opinion” that means nothing of any value.

      • OMGface

        I admire your optimism. Mine here is waning. I mean it.

      • DarkSyn

        Bah. Don’t let the bastids get you down. Especially when you know you are in the right cause those people are always in the wrong.

      • OMGface

        That was adorable. XO. But, it’s not about being right, it’s about having to face these lowlife sicko replicants are among us.

      • DarkSyn

        Being right is important to me. A big reason I won’t post comments on articles I know nothing about. For example I steer away from anything having to do with economics. As for facing the lowlifes, I get up every morning and set off doing it every day and have been since Bush got elected I don’t see that ending very soon.

      • OMGface

        Thanks for this. For me, chasing truth every second on every level, and some desperate need to be right—reflecting some emotional issue and false pride/politics….are very different. Polar opposites, even. I find your presence nourishing….something HERE I desperately need.

      • DarkSyn

        There is a difference between not wanting to look like a complete fool that anyone can dispute and being desperate. I could say that posting comments and not caring if you are right is worse considering that is what I see here on the internet on a daily basis from ignorant Republicans.

      • OMGface

        I would never disagree

      • OMGface

        Thought I just posted this….gotta stop multitasking….I would never disagree with the above! Most painful part for me= the total dearth of self awareness of some of these autopilot train wrecks. Serious emotional sisues preclude humans being able to chase truth…they have too many intense, symbolic, distorted investments. I find this kinda pathology really scary.

      • noah vail

        believe me my fellow THINKER, you are not alone here

      • OMGface

        OMG. Funny how something mitigating shows up just when the reality feels worse than PMS! Bless U! Hugging smilie.

      • curmudgeon VN Veteran

        Just think how we feel having to share our oxygen with you.

      • OMGface

        Not to worry, the destruction of rain forests, forget, Global warming, will make that moot in not too long.

      • curmudgeon VN Veteran

        Between the give away negotiations the democRAT politicians made with the NORKS and now Iran I don’t think those should be your major concerns. You liberal folks sure have a powerful stupid along with being terminally naive.

      • noah vail

        talk the party line …what we really need is another war, right?

      • noah vail

        if the right wing has it’s way we won’t be having that oxygen to share for much longer, but the kock brothers will be richer thanks to the likes of you

      • curmudgeon VN Veteran

        There’s that love of diverse opinions that all you mush headed liberals are always touting.

      • DarkSyn

        You might want to look that term up old man. A diverse opinion would be something you have never seen in your entire life. Diverse opinions does not mean we are supposed to absorb like a sponge everything your Masters in the GOP funnel down your throat because they know what a low information guy you really are.

      • curmudgeon VN Veteran

        It’s due to the 6+ years of Obama and his epic failures. It will go away so keep the faith.

      • curmudgeon VN Veteran

        I doubt you would know a fact if it bit you on your cheek. Crap you read from the NYT and WaPo is not exactly factual. Now if you call it propaganda like it is then I would agree.

      • DarkSyn

        I read something close to 30 political websites daily sport. I can wager I know facts much better than your convoluted imagination does. I also get that you spend every waking second on old dead Breitbart, Drudgery and FoxFakeViews while listening to Rush on AM ra ra radio. Your little one celled mind has been saturated , no steeped in propaganda and you are too stupid to know any better. In that your very own party has made a mockery out of you. Poor sad pathetic fool.

    • Harry R Omwake

      That’s head of the Harvard Law Review idiot to you cur, but I am sure you are just a troll ideologue without any true thoughts of your own to share. The nature of the internet allows you to hide your stupidity along with your identity, but I am sure that in real life you are still a clown that no one listens to or respects!

      • OMGface

        Bless you very much!!!

    • FsmPastapharian

      You have serious issues based on every one of your pointless, baseless, clueless posts on this article. Ok, you don’t like our president, but you better come up with a better excuse than his intelligence. It’s not a road someone like you wants to go down. Maybe we can start with his being black. Would that be better for you?

      • curmudgeon VN Veteran

        Ever listened to the big O when he is off prompter? Makes George W. Bush sound like one of the World’s truly great orators.

      • FsmPastapharian

        I listen to him every chance I get. He speaks carefully and precisely. He chooses his words meticulously, and does not dummy it down, as any great communicator should. His name should never be used in conjunction with W’s unless it’s to show the contrast between a great and intelligent leader (O), and an abject embarrassment and failure (W).

      • OMGface

        BINGO……he is meticulous and measured. What started emerging early on, given President Obama’s very presence was and still, is a catalyst which has illuminated a pernicious American sickness which has eroded us ongoing since slavery.

        It is about as ugly as anything I have ever seen.

    • Max Robins

      You’re handle fits you well

      • curmudgeon VN Veteran

        Thank you. Coming from a liberal retard it’s a real compliment.

      • Max Robins

        It was meant as a compliment. What makes you think I’m a liberal?

      • curmudgeon VN Veteran

        Mea Culpa. Bad assumption. This site is teeming with retarded liberals claiming to have record breaking IQ’s when they could not pour piss from they shoes if the directions were printed on the sole.

      • OMGface

        Because he’s a self hating dunce. U actually don’t get that? Might be big learning experience for you and your INVESTEMENTS, MAX.

      • Max Robins

        Oh, I get it OMG

      • Max Robins

        What’s an “INVESTEMENT”, by the way? (lol)

      • OMGface

        Is that a serious question?

      • Max Robins

        Jeez OMG……..relax! Believe me, I GET the curmudgeon. It’s just that arguing with someone that embedded in a position fueled by bitterness and the desire to strike out at others is futile. As far as my question about “investement”, I was just kidding you about your misspelling typo.

      • OMGface

        Bless U Max. And futile, says it all. Anyone on unwitting autopilot, rabid, obliterating rage defending against uber pain, never once present in the moment, windows cray glued shut…heartbreaking, but also alientates everyone normal. I am sending you a cannoli. But only if you promise to stay here.

      • Max Robins

        Yum!

      • OMGface

        I like U R cute, Max!!!

    • LLCisyouandme

      Makes sense that, in your mind, the current president has to be at one extreme or the other. I’m sure when Clinton was in the White House he was “Slick Willy” to you. That Obama does not have the same degree of facile erudition does not make him an idiot. Very few think that the innumerable doofy stumblings of W Bush for eight years in and of themselves made him a bad president. Very few think the word salads put together by Sarah Palin, dripping with resentment for intelligence and education, made her a bad ex-demi-governor. But when we look at their behaviors, informed by their simplistic, unfocused and unclear expressions of their rationale for what they *did*, the conclusion is inescapable. It’s easy to conflate the two; black & white thinking practically demands it.
      There are distinct differences in Obama’s hesitant mode of speaking. “Ums” and “ers” are normal fillers that are used when a speaker is composing his thoughts, in his case from having an abundance of choices and an awareness of the impression those choices might engender, completely apart from the point he actually intends to make. All intelligent, empathetic people do this by the way, with or without verbal manifestations. He isn’t unsure of his convictions, he’s searching for the right way to express his ideas in a way a wide audience can accept and understand.
      An argument might be made, has been made, that W and Palin and Trump and countless others do both these things, they “speak their mind” and “cater to their audience.” They “say what they mean and mean what they say.” It has a folksy ring to it. And all politicians have a political voice. But when intelligent thought becomes ridiculed at the altar of categorical absolutism, and arbitrary “decisiveness” trumps considered action, it becomes abundantly clear, *to the intelligent and perceptive*, exactly what the difference is between real leadership (and communication) and simple posturing. And maybe that’s the issue.

      • FsmPastapharian

        Well said, though I think curmudgeon may need a dictionary to understand your well-expressed points.

      • OMGface

        If someone doesn’t have a brain, a dictionary will not help. Very depressing.

      • LLCisyouandme

        My operating assumption is that, while he may have a dictionary, he has no desire to understand. People like him, shouting from the bottom of a well, won’t hear anyone coming to help, only their own fear and anger and self-loathing, magnified and echoed back at them. Thanks for the kind words.

    • Stefanovitch

      You see what you choose to see. You are only shooting yourself in the foot.

      • OMGface

        But he can’t choose BETTER. That’s the bottom line.

      • Stefanovitch

        Except that Obama is doing great. Does Cuba and Iran mean anything to you? Should he have invaded Iran? Puh-leeze. He has been hamstringed since before he took office.
        Do you think that in Australia, when Canadian PM Stephen Harper shook Putin’s hand, and told him to get out of Ukraine, that he did that on his own? Obama’s touch was written all over that exchange, because if Obama did it himself, he would come across as a jerk. But to have Harper step up was classic! And it was unexpected.
        RED FLAG – If you cannot find a single thing that Obama has done right, then you exaggerate, and your viewpoint cannot be trusted.

      • OMGface

        Why are you preaching to the ultimate choir? I am a founding member of that choir….have been since way before the first election.

      • Stefanovitch

        Maybe it is because I consider comments sections to be the back alleyways and cesspools of the internet, and I am only half paying attention. Too much exposure to ignorance has harmful effects on the psyche, so I only pay so much attention to the fools in here, and I honestly don’t take very much time to differentiate between fools and intelligent folks in comments. Nobody’s mind has been changed, or political parties have been switched because of intense comments “debates,” so they are ultimately unimportant. I am just a “people watcher” from way back, and these comments sections really draw out the loonies!

  • amersham46

    Too intelligent ??? a burden few Republicans will never have to bear

    • OMGface

      Nuthin but net…..not to mention the other side of the radioactive coin: a staggering dearth of character and integrity. FAUSTS!

    • Clockp

      Nope. We Republicans have that quality you Dems don’t know exists: humility. And LEAVING PEOPLE ALONE TO RUN THEIR OWN LIVES, BECAUSE THEY KNOW HOW TO DO IT BETTER THAN DEMS!

      • Arin Lampkin

        Except for when it comes to who is in love with who and getting married, what’s in side a woman’s virgin, who is sleeping with who, what religion you adhere to or don’t. Yeah that is not leaving you along.

      • Morgan

        OR a woman who chooses to have an abortion! Damn Repuke MEN have never heard of LEAVING PEOPLE ALONE TO RUN THEIR OWN LIVES, BECAUSE THEY KNOW HOW TO DO IT BETTER THAN REPUKES!

      • Donna Sherman

        Agreed Morgan. It’s the fact that men won’t leave women alone, that pre-empts the need for an abortion. It’s always the women who have to clean up the messes made by the men, and we have to do it by fighting them all of the way. Wonder why that is?

      • Clockp

        Gosh, I had no idea that women had no control over withdrawls from sperm banks.

      • Clockp

        You got the absolute right to sell your fetus for body parts, that what you’re saying?

      • D Jean Benway

        I think what they are saying is that it is NONE of YOUR Fing business plain and simple….no more than the gov.telling you what decisions you can make or not make when it comes to your own body.I personally do not like abortion although sometimes necessary…..But I DO NOT believe I have the right to make anyone adhere to my standards

      • Clockp

        Then who represents the unborn after conception, Planned Parenthood?

      • Mady

        Unplanned Parenthood?

      • Clockp

        That would be Mom.

      • decrepittex

        What the f**k do you and your party do for the child after birth?

      • wylekat

        Nothing. They do *nothing*.

        Except make up complicated paperwork to make it *look* like something might be accomplished.

      • Clockp

        Clean up after you and your party.

      • decrepittex

        I’m just a country boy, please explain how Republicans clean up anything. All I’ve seen them do in my lifetime is make the mess.

      • Clockp

        Try like the dickens to grow the economy so they and their parents have jobs, and not rely on hand-outs from the Democratic National Party’s running up my son’s national credit card, and taking a fat cut for themselves and their cronies off the top.

      • decrepittex

        Then you all have failed miserably. The only thing I’ve seen a Republican politician do in the last 50+ years is crash the economy, give tax breaks to millionaires, try to tell women what they can do with their vagina, preach family values while ignoring them, preaching fiscal conservatism while spending money like drunk sailors, all the while telling everyone they were chosen by Gawd himself. If you’re dumb enough to believe the GOP has your best interest in mind, then you are delusional. They haven’t voted on one jobs bill in the last 7 years but have found time to vote to repeal the ACA about 50 times.

      • Clockp

        Really? You go through life with one eye closed, and pat yourself on the head? Good luck with your one person show.

      • decrepittex

        One word would describe you…..Idiot.

      • Clockp

        Must be in our DNA, you know the word so well.

      • Clockp

        I’ll give you some kudos there; the rest of it you DEMS take the cake, using ANY excuse under the “social justice”, “fairness”, “equality” and”civil rights” canard to cram your Al Capone big government thuggery in my face, whether it’s the social security Ponzi scheme, Meficare fraud and waste, EPA private property land grab, and trillions in welfare, food stamp, slumlord housing, “Justice” Deoartment trashing and shaking down private companies to redistribute billions to politicians and their cronies, etc. you want your bogus”right to privacy”, but have no trouble invading mine, my pursuit of happiness with Big Government IRS nanny-stating every dollar I earn, or motoring my behavior for any sticks-and-stones lawsuit that’ll buy you voted for your handout crowd.

      • decrepittex

        You said it for me.

      • Clockp

        Huh?

      • LEK56

        Nice try sneaking in the meme, but an off-subject post means you didn’t read the article OR you don’t understand it.

      • Clockp

        Yes I did. Obama’s intelligence has NOTHING to do with relevance, let alone competence. Hence my brilliantly perceptive comment. Guess MY intelligence too much for Dems, I’ll have to dumb down to have a chance at communicating.

      • Brat Wingz

        YES … being intelligent has everything to do with competence and relevance. Where did you go to school and not realize that, Clockp?

      • Clockp

        The school of life, beyond my MBA, has taught me the HUGE difference between intellectual intelligence and emotional/human intelligence, the latter having MUCH greater impact on relevance and competence. Which is EXACTLY where your feckless Obama is and always has been woefully deficient, obvious to anyone outside the “progressive” Democratic Party cult.

      • Ken

        What a pusilanimous syncophany smug moron your words make you sound like. Your MBA sounds like “More Bull Shit” you fraud!…feckless…woooo..watch out all you idiots on the republican ticket…..sending out free dictionaries to open their minds a little bit.

      • Clockp

        Gee, you must be a real delight around the dinner table. Don’t lose any arguments during your 24/7 time in front of the mirror.

      • D Jean Benway

        Guess you should read the article again…Obviously you have already dumed down ….article talks about Dems being Intelligent…….. Well, in something that almost sounds like satire (even though it isn’t), GOP presidential candidate Jeb Bush criticized President Obama, Hillary Clinton and John Kerry for being too intelligent……….Guess you skipped over this statement…….LOL……LOL

      • decrepittex

        No one needs to be a rocket scientist to understand your arrogance or your bulls**t.

      • Clockp

        Just unleashed by your “progressive” nap room handlers? Must be scary to use such big words for the first time.

      • Eva Cutler

        aren’t YOU A BIT CONFUSED?

      • Clockp

        Dazed, but never confused.

      • decrepittex

        “A BIT CONFUSED” is an understatement.

      • Anna

        You’re proving that Jeb’s comments are correct. Can’t you read?

        Jeb admitted that many of President Obama’s comments go over Republican’s heads.

      • Clockp

        Can’t YOU read, my comment reflects Obama’s unwillingness, let alone inability, to communicate with we human beings, WHO CARES if he’s intelligent, he’s incompetent! His JOB is to communicate with we the people on THIS planet, not the one spinning in the dark recesses of his creepy mind. Duh!

      • Andrew Craig

        That should read: “…communicate with US human beings”. Thank you.

      • Clockp

        You’re welcome, got me on that!

      • James McMillin

        I guess ‘Clockp’ doesn’t remember or know that there are three branches of government. Congress, and specifically Mitch McConnell (Republican leader in the Senate), PUBLICLY pledged immediately after Obama’s 2008 election, that he and all Republicans would do everything in their power to defeat the President… their President, our nation’s elected President. They have proven this ‘pledge’ over and over by opposing their and our President on almost every proposal he has offered the nation. THIS in SPITE of an overwhelming RE-ELECTION by THE PEOPLE. Republicans overwhelmingly pack every conceivable amendment into legislation to prevent it’s implementation. Obama bent over backwards to be cooperative in his first SIX YEARS and got slap after slap down of his programs and initiatives. Reagan and Bush got NO such treatment, but were supported in nearly every of all their eventual failures. NOW the President knows he has only a short time to get realistic and beneficial law into place for this and other nations. He acts on his convictions and long opposed promises while ignoring the taunts and cries of Republican naysayers. Get over it. It’s time Repfubs get shoved back into their hole of self preserving idiocy.

      • Clockp

        Cry me a river, the excuses you Obamabots use to cover for gross negligence. Reagan was VEHEMENTLY opposed by your beloved “progressive” cult; yet through LEADERSHIP, he got his programs through congress controlled by Democrats. Beyond Obama’s race card, granted to him by the likes of you and unfortunately the majority of voters, he’s got NO leadership skills, let alone guts. He’ll go down as worse than Jimmy Carter in the rankings of modern day presidents, doing the most damage to our freedom and international relations since the execrable Woodrow Wilson.

      • Maureen

        Republicans are the one’s that are intrusive into people’s lives and want to run everyone’s life and take away their choices about whatever they don’t agree with.That’s not humility…get a dictionary!

      • Clockp

        Income tax: Dems. Ripping election of Senators (Congress, that is) AWAY from states, to “at large” IE at the mercy of special interest groups: Dems. Welfare state: Dems. Unions with COLLECTIVE power over private property: Dems. $10-18 TRILLION debt increase since 2008: Dems. LOW -2% growth rate and wealth formation for we the people: Dems. GREAT RECESSIONS of 30’s and last 8 yrs: Dems. Minimum wage entry level job killer for teens, unskilled labor (particularly minorities), elderly that need supplement to fixed income: Dems. EPA job crushing regs: Dems. Demonizing we the people for the human spirit unleashed, outside of Government death panels, regulations, taxes, politically correct restraints: Dems. Trashing our own soldiers when they’re fighting the enemy (Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan): Dems. Disastrous prohibition: Dems. Culling human beings from the womb: Dems. Big government answers to everything: Dems. Dumbing down human beings to political categories: Dems. Right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness subordinated to political handouts by political “categories” (race, creed, ethnicity, gender, skin color, income, sexual preference, ability/disability, etc.): Dems. And so on, and so forth…

      • Mike Estes

        Talk about poster boy for tea party moronism; boy, you are it.

      • Clockp

        Well, well, another tin-pot ISIS wannabe fatwa, too lazy or arrogant to engage in dialogue with a fellow human being, so I’m labeled a “poster boy for tea party moronism” and beheaded. You must be a real charmer at the dinner table, serving up the body parts of your guests.

      • Mike Estes

        I wouldn’t behead you, jackhole, the freaking thing would float away if it wasn’t anchored to your neck.

      • Clockp

        Have a nice day, hope you don’t lose any arguments with yourself.

      • decrepittex

        In your case it wouldn’t be a beheading, it would be a circumcision.

      • Clockp

        Try thinking for yourself and actually engaging in a discussion of ideas with other people, instead of regurgitating your “progressive” handler’s instructions and insults, you’ll appreciate the results.

      • Adam Shaw

        The existence of income tax is “Dems’s” fault? Really? I guess the country should just print more $ and deflate the economy to pay for the country to run. How about this…..The fact the the rich pay nothing in taxes while the middle class and poor’s taxes pay for our country to run: Repub’s. The fact that since donations of $ were considered free speech during Bush’s terms, reviewing public records how many more MILLIONS AND MILLIONS and MILLIONS of $$ the Republican candidates receive from PAC’s and other groups like the Koch brothers during election time than Dems: Repubs. Welfare state? The average a single person w no kids gets in public aid is $300-350 for welfare a month and $100-150 for food stamps. Yeah thats’ a real incentive not to work. All those on welfare are living it up for $500 per month max: No party’s fault. Nobody is concerned about teens going off to college not being able to find jobs cause of higher minimum wage, BUT BIG BUSINESS is concerned they may lose a few % points on profit if they paid a living wage. If McDonalds raised the price of a Big Mac by 67 cents they could DOUBLE the wages of every McDonald employee on Earth, but why should the working poor have a chance to raise themselves: Repubs. Elderly need to supplement their income because of REPUBS looting Social Security of BILLIONS with no intention of ever paying it back (Bush Jr took tween 8-10 billion from SS during his term:). WHo doesnt care about the planet being unlivable in 2-3 generations: Repubs (they criticize Obama for being too intelligent so I wonder how they feel about scientists worrying about global climate change. Bush’s last head of the EPA ran the biggest coal company in the country so yeah we need tough regs so we have a planet our kids can live on without oxygen masks like in China; and I have yet to see ANY proof jobs are being lost cause of the desire for clean air and water.) I dont even understand who or what the hell the “demonizing we the people through gov death panels” etc etc even means but I will say who demonizes people for their sexual orientation, economic class, race, or their gender: Repubs. WHO PUTS OUR SOLDIERS IN HARM”S WAY with no real plan on what we are doing, why, or when and how we will exit where we invaded? Repubs. (wha an awesome job we did in Iraq, a blueprint for invading and stabilizing a country). Who short changes our vets when they come back from war with health issues: Repubs…..Really you are blaming democrats for Alcohol prohibition from the 1930’s? Ok how about who has destroyed the lives of millions and millions of people for non-violent crimes that are a health not a criminal issue and has raised billions of $$ for organized crime through the “Drug War”: Repubs. Actually I believe Nixon was in office when Roe vs Wade passed so cant blame Dems for Abortion. If you are so concerned with the fate of the newborn then maybe some support should be shown for the “welfare state” who will have to pay for the millions of unwanted children that mothers who financially or emotionally cannot care for them because they are barely teens themselves (but I guess thats their problem, your job as a protector of the unborn ends once the fetus is born). Who feels every issue that is social in nature (gay marriage, issues re the flag, etc etc) is to be solved via banning and prohibiting by law any legal activity that just plains offends some people: Repubs. Who feels the answer to EVERYTHING is through more tax breaks for the rich and less regulation of industries who time and again show that without regulation said industries fall apart through their own greed (real estate crash, the fall of 6 of the 8 largest banks in the country, the auto industry, the fall of Wall Street): Repubs. The “dumbing down” of humans to political categories (along with social and economic): Every political party and marketer in the country. The right to liberty…..subordinated to political handouts based on color, creed”…..again this doesnt make any sense, I just know that the right to life, liberty etc shouldnt 1) come at the expense of making one’s life less worthy because they dont follow the path of “God and country and nothing else” and 2) the Repubs seem to love to interfere with people’s pursuit of that goal if that goal differs from theirs regarding lifestyle, political views, or economically. Why else are Repubs always on the front page when social issues are at unrest? Surely issues of gay marriage, the confederate flag, x-mas decorations in government buildings, etc pale in importance to issues such as nukes in Iran, the shrinking of the Dow Jones, etc……. The above sounds like the stereotypical “I hate liberals I dont know my own country anymore” rant without any bare-bones facts to support their argument. They make up for that by shouting longer and louder. I am not a walking statistician but at least I try to have some foot in the real world with some basic facts to back up my position without just blindly blaming all the troubles of the world on either Obama or “those damn right wing fascists/Repubs”

      • Clockp

        Nice “progressive” talking points, right down to the evil Koch brothers, whose donations to good causes of course you COMPLETELY ignore. “Tax breaks for the rich”, right out of the Manifesto. MY real world is simple: LEAVE ME AND MY FAMILY ALONE TO CREATE WEALTH! If you’re NOT a “walking statistician” then you’re with me, get the politicians and their cronies OUT of our faces: term limits, government budget limits, GET RID OF THE IRS AND HAVE A SIMPLE TAX (me: http://www.fairtax.org); REIN IN THE FED REGULATORS (EPA, HUD, etc. – we’ve got wind machines slaughtering golden eagles under the holy grail of “global warming”, Dodd-Frank super-regs killing community banks, etc.). Want facts? REAL umeployment in double digits (including people who give up getting a job, OUT of the work force and are temps, consultants, whatever); REAL growth in the anemic 1-2%. That is REAL. What’s your reality?

      • D Jean Benway

        Did you not know that when Pres. Obama took office we were CHANGE(change as in money..do not want to confuse you) away from being in a depression ….You Spout your mouth like you know something and it is clear to see that you don’t……..Right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness ….Bet you do not even know where thaat statement came from lol

      • Clockp

        Nice snide comment, l put you in John Stewart category of smug propaganda. No, we were NOT “change” away from depression, we were in short term panic needing liquidity fix and bankruptcies to clean crappy balance sheets, including Barny Frank’s political gangrene at FMNA. We needed government OUT OF THE WAY, business and institutions fixed through the market; instead we get your Big Government Soles Everything Obana and the Dem cult, bailing out your union cronies failed pension and medical plans with TAXPAYER $$ CHARGED TO MY SON’s NATIONAL CREDIT CARD, and 17% of the company stolen from investors and handed over to the UAW- true gangster “prigressives” showing their colors. We fought a revolution to throw off gangster government, not replace it with gangster “progressives”, whose only modus operandi fir their failed policies is to cram it down our throats by abusing the monopoly power of Big Government, just like King George did to the colonies! You’re so smart, I’ll bet you knew that already, didn’t you?

      • Clockp

        Yikes! Referring to Chrysler bailout and union handouts by Obama, Big Government Solves Everything, GROSS government overreach but the perfect society for Obsna, communists, socialists and totalitarians.

      • decrepittex

        See Arin Lampkin post below.

  • GenerallyConfused

    I thought he wanted people to forget his last name… doesn’t seem like he’s doing that very well if he sounds like the ex-decider-in-chief.

  • Carol Lynn

    Well, god forbid he becomes the next president, I’m sure he will dumb it down. Way down. Wouldn’t want eloquence and raising the bar to interfere with manipulating people.

  • strayaway

    Jeb or Hillary? It doesn’t matter when it comes to foreign policy or coddling banksters . Either way, we get a continuation of W and O’s corporatist foreign policies and the continued degradation of the US working and middle classes.

  • dog lover

    What intelligence does Jeb have. A step above his brother GW.

    VOTE TRUMP FOR PRESIDENT IN 2016

    • OMGface

      Lovely….a blowhard simpleton in the White House.

      • dog lover

        Like the one we have now??

      • OMGface

        Like the one you see when you look in the mirror.

      • dog lover

        Like yourself

      • OMGface

        Wishing will never make it so. And that….ROCKS.

      • dog lover

        I just figured it out. I forget the name. It’s that monthly thing you get.

      • OMGface

        You stick with your blindly loyal canines.

      • dog lover

        It’s more friends than you have you sick geotechnical pup. I’m not dripping with envy.I create it love.

      • OMGface

        Running desperately on a shorted out treadmill in a dark room where there is there is only delusion.

      • curmudgeon VN Veteran

        I bet you wish you were clever.

  • OMGface

    Could you be any more ignorant or envy ridden than you are? And all without even the brains to try to hide any of it! Incredible.

    • dog lover

      YOU BORE ME.

      BORING
      BORING
      BORING
      &
      BORING.

  • pointforward

    Obama’s policies have been far to the right of Bush and practically fascist.
    The author illustrates his own lack of intelligence by not knowing that and by failing to properly use the plural ‘noses’ at the end of the first paragraph.
    That’s something we all learned in 8th grade grammar.

  • Lilowl

    Thought Jeb was the smart one.

    • Nightflyer

      Compared to who?

  • AKRNC

    The bashing of intellectual elites started during the ’08 campaign when the GOP put forth the guy who graduated at the bottom of his class and the twit who went to six different colleges and couldn’t complete a Bachelor’s Degree, as the University of Idaho will not confirm her degree. Palin was so jealous of Obama’s education that she used it to mock him and the idiots that followed the GOP ignorantly listened to her. Let’s face it, look at some of their other choices for Congress ~ Michelle Bachmann, Louie Gohmert, Blake Farenthold, Steve King and many more are proof that these people will buy anything as long as they are hearing what they want to hear.

  • Nancy B

    And to think that, in the beginning, our leaders got where they were and were respected for being educated. They profess to revere our Founding Fathers, but I doubt many could ever get through reading any of their writings before their heads exploded.

  • Clockp

    Robespierre, Hitler, Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, Fidel and Karl Marx all “big thinkers”, right up there with Let the Heads Roll Obama. I’ll take Ben Franklin, George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Ronnie and Calvin Coolidge, thank you very much, the people that let ME be free and responsible to make MY choices in MY pursuit of happiness, for me and my family.

  • JzzE1 .

    Say WHAT?!

  • Stormageddon1

    Rhetorically, is it even possible for POTUS to be TOO smart? Not for me. Gone be a tough 3lection. Who to vote for. Smart or stupid?

  • Kojo

    A message to curmudgeon VN Veteran below: I am impressed with the amount of fight you have shown in your post responses. Most conservatives have very little fortitude in debates and quickly degenerate to insults and then blocking. A very ‘head in the sand’ group. I would however suggest you take a cue from your compatriots and shut up. You have demonstrated the pure ignorance and poison laced sentiment that other republicans usually try to hide and its not working in your stead. As the saying goes, “its better to shut up and let people think you are an idiot than to speak out and confirm their suspicions.” You ARE that confirmation.

  • Clockp

    “Intelligence” as defined by dufus Dems, Lenin, Stalin, Marx, Pol Pot, Hitler, etc. means Dems are smarter than We the People; so Dem panels, with the monopoly power of the Feds, make all family, energy, housing, social, behavioral (Politikkaly Korrekt, that is), economic…heck, every decision in our Pursuit of Happiness. Because Dems are just so smart. Don’t think so? Just ask them.

  • Catherine Bouey

    Well Brother Mouzone did always say that the most dangerous thing in America….was a nigger with a library card.

    But I’m guessing Jeb doesn’t watch the Wire…..might be too sophisticated for him too.

  • Old Top Kick

    #NoMasArbustos

  • John Kamau

    for those of you who doubted black peoples intelligence , there you have it.

  • firehawk46064

    Jebya.

  • Clockp

    Hey, you Big Government loving libs, Dems, “progressives”; If Obama’s so smart, how come his executive orders haven’t created wealth and prosperity, instead of running up the national debt to $17 TRILLION, and keeping our growth rate in the 1-2% range?