John Boehner Admits Congressional Republicans Have Been Inept At Getting Anything Done

john-boehner-sad-faceOne of the biggest problems I run across when dealing with politics is that the vast majority of Americans have no clue how our government works. Sure, most people can name who’s president, but far fewer know anything at all about Congress. The typical American has no idea what the House or Senate really does or what power the president actually has. So it should come as no surprise that our government is often dysfunctional because, unfortunately, the average American doesn’t know much about how it works.

In all honesty, the only way we would ever see a truly streamlined government is if one party controlled the majority in the House, 60 seats in the Senate, and the White House; or if one party controlled at least two-thirds of both the House and Senate to have the power to override any presidential veto as long as everyone voted along party lines.

And if one party makes it their lone mission in government to block and obstruct anything that the other party supports, then it’s almost impossible to get anything accomplished. That’s exactly what has happened since the election of President Obama.

So even after the big Republican gains in last November’s elections, I wasn’t really too concerned because they lacked the votes in Congress to override the president’s veto – unless Democrats vote with Republicans. In fact, I was actually a bit excited because now GOP idiocy would be on full display. And as I’ve seen time and time again, the best way to make Republicans look like idiots is to simply let them be themselves.

Since taking control of Congress earlier this month, Republicans have tried to get an anti-abortion bill passed (and failed to do so after female Republicans rebelled against them due to the extreme nature of the bill) and couldn’t even get a border security bill passed through the House because the more extreme right-wing members of the GOP were upset that it wasn’t anti-immigrant enough.

Heck, they don’t even have enough votes in the Senate to avoid a filibuster to get the Keystone XL pipeline passed and sent to President Obama’s desk, where it will be swiftly vetoed.

In other words, after all of this hype and big talk from the GOP – they’ve accomplished absolutely nothing so far. They’ve been completely inept, and it seems House Speaker John Boehner agrees. After a meeting with a number of rank-and-file party leaders, Boehner told reporters “there have been a couple of stumbles” since Republicans took over Congress a few weeks ago.


I wouldn’t call a slight insurrection against House leadership from female Republicans over an abortion bill, and a mild revolt from the House’s far right members over an immigration bill, “slight stumbles.” That’s flat-out incompetence.

And I must remind everyone that they’re doing all of this bickering and posturing in the House over bills that will never be signed by the president. So it’s not as if they’re working with President Obama on legislation that will ever matter. In other words, this is all a complete waste of time. It’s like watching two small children bicker over who’s going to get the last piece of candy when the parents have already said neither of them are going to get it.

So we’re a month into our Republican-led Congress and what have they accomplished? Practically nothing. Because while President Obama will almost undoubtedly veto nearly all of this right-wing pushed nonsense, Republicans in the House have been too incompetent to even get a piece of legislation that far.

And they have nobody to blame but themselves.


Allen Clifton

Allen Clifton is a native Texan who now lives in the Austin area. He has a degree in Political Science from Sam Houston State University. Allen is a co-founder of Forward Progressives and creator of the popular Right Off A Cliff column and Facebook page. Be sure to follow Allen on Twitter and Facebook, and subscribe to his channel on YouTube as well.

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  • Jim Bean

    Allen, you lead into this article with the comment that ‘most American’s have no clue how the government works.’ Then further on in, you lament as to how Congress generates legislation ‘that will never be signed by the President’ as if the way government is supposed to work is, ‘its Congress’s job to put together legislation that will facilitate and compliment the implementation of the President’s personal agenda’. You make it sound (and have in the past) like Congress’s role is to serve the President.

    That is entirely wrong. The fact is, government is SUPPOSED to work like this: Congressmen have an obligation to draft and vote on the legislation desired by the people of the districts who voted them into office. The leaders of the chambers (House/Senate) have an obligation to subject those pieces of legislation (bills) to ‘due process’ and allow a vote. When passed by due vote, the legislation goes to the President where he has the obligation to either veto the legislation (his option when not passed in Congress by a veto-proof majority) and accept any political blow back that comes with that veto, or sign it into law and enforce it.

    The whole process has been severely corrupted by Obama promising to veto at the first hint of legislation under consideration, by both chamber leaders derailing the democratic process by preventing votes from taking place, by both parties using filibusters, by Obama refusing to enforce laws already duly put into place, and by Obama taking advantage of the dysfunction he’s had a big hand in creating by using it as an excuse to use EO’s.

    If you truly care about ‘how government works’ you could use your megaphone to castigate ALL the culprits – not just the ones on the right-hand side of the aisle. When you condemn some and excuse others you become a tool for perpetuating precisely what you purport to object to.

    Its supposed to be ‘government by the people, for the people.’ Not ‘government by the President for the President.’

    • regressive whitetrash GOP scum

      how about that bill to help veteran which the GOP didn’t want???
      ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,or : to quote Boehner:
      ” where are the jobs” (bills)???? Hmmmm? repubs now have some power; yet they play with abortion and taxing small businesses instead of helping americans find long term work ( see: infra-structure/ roads/bridges,,,,)
      NOTE: in the 2014 election democrats got nearly 2 M..I..L..L..I..O..N.. more votes than republicans; so “the American people” are not accurately represented (see: gerrymandering)
      *******************************************************************************
      I do like how NOW U are crying about usage of filibusters

      • Jim Bean

        Smart people put a new coat of sealant on their deck (infrastructure) only when they have extra disposable income that isn’t needed elsewhere. Repairing infrastructure consumes huge chunks of revenue and produces nothing in return until the infrastructure reaches the point of being unusable. We need to put infrastructure repair off until the last minute for the same reason you wouldn’t replace your water heater while it was working just fine.

        You are quite the slave to the narrative Mr. Scum.

      • BobJThompson

        Because building new and better weapons constantly is better than making sure bridges don’t collapse killing americans.

      • Jim Bean

        No it is not. Not only do smart people not reseal their deck, they do not upgrade the perfectly functioning locks on the doors.

      • BobJThompson

        You’re comparing home repair with bridges. Apples and oranges my friend.

      • wendy

        I agree. If it isn’t broke, don’t fix it. When it breaks, should be fixed. Yet, I believe in prevention if it will save a lot of $$ down the road.
        This government is broken, like a desperately needed divorce marriage with irreconcilable differences

      • Jim Bean

        I agree. But preventive maintenance needs to applied when and where preventative maintenance is needed not when and where Liberals think jobs are needed.

      • wendy

        Would be great if quality of life and economy issues could be decided by quality professionals in respective fields for the people of this counrry while political idealogy can go kiss our a**ses

      • regressive whitetrash GOP scum

        problem with that ‘utopia’ is human greed pervades all the time

      • wendy

        I hear ya. But at least without the ‘party game’, new ideas could happen. ‘In a john Lennon worldworld, yeah right, where common sense prevails. Hey, gotta dream sometime. 🙂

      • regressive whitetrash GOP scum

        and who is soothsayer to know when and how maintenance is applied?? regressives??? regressive GOP??? those regressives still trying to force anti abortion issues and force JE$U$ into legislation ( their VOODOO version of JE$U$) while spending tons of OUR money on futile attempts to repeal the (now working nicely) ACA ??? more $$$$ spent on (futile and proven false) BENGHAZI ersatz cover-up claims???
        “preventative maintenance”,,,,,,, like the wonderful messes Wisconsin and Kansas and other GOP states are stuck in with those regressive policies??
        Hmmmm????

      • Andy Kinnard

        So, you agree, we should fund repairs on the approximately 11% of highway infrastructure the civil engineers say needs major mantenance?

      • Jim Bean

        Absolutely. We don’t have a choice. My issues is with all these liberals who think that once we jump into infrastructure repair, all this cash is going to start magically bubbling up out of the ground.

        But its not. This is no different than needing to replace all the tires on the all government vehicles. Its not money being put into something that creates economic growth. Its putting money (borrowed from China) into something that begins depreciating the day the project is complete.

      • Andy Kinnard

        Why do you view bottom-up stimulus projects as not generating (or encouraging ) economic growth? Do you disagree that working class people spend all or nearly all their income (in the marketplace) and, therefore, increase aggregate demand which leads to greater supply which leads to hiring? I don’t see the role of magic in that reality-based theory.

      • Jim Bean

        The problem is the aggregate demands leads to hiring primarily in China and India.

      • Andy Kinnard

        …which we fix with tax code reform that makes off shoring manufacturing less attractive (to management), maybe import tariffs, some way of desocializing the polution and protection costs inherent to international shipping (necessary to offshoring), etc.

      • Andy Kinnard

        Glad you agree that we need to invest in infrastructure repair and improvements. Some of it (like our electrical grid) is actually a national security issue (but is being treated like the shed door that needs to be painted).

      • regressive whitetrash GOP scum

        jimbo wont reply to that

      • regressive whitetrash GOP scum

        (a) funny; I did replace my tank water heater– which worked FINE– with an “on demand” attwood water heater– now? unlimited hot water
        ======================================
        also– I do NOT wait until stuff is non-usable b4 I change it out ( see: auto tires and radiators ETC; crappy stocks,,,,, aging sneakers,,,,toothbrushes,,,,,)
        put off new bridges?? shall we wait until they (as they do) collapse and kill many people?
        funny how U ignored my comment upon what regressive repubs ARE attempting; after all– abortion and getting JE$U$ into law is far more important than creating long lasting jobs; ,,,,,, and equally funny how U decried filibusters NOW; but were mummy-silent prior when repubs were using them like rush Limbaugh uses chemicals.
        PS——- the VA is a sliver of whats going on with US VETERANS,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, nice strawman though!!

      • Jim Bean

        My comment began with ‘Smart people. . . .” So why are you injecting what you did/do into the conversation?

      • 4thStooge

        Produces nothing in return? Are you insane? Wait until a bridge collapses while you’re driving over it. You can be thinking about the return you would have gotten on bridge reparations while you’re falling to your death, or worse, drowning in your vehicle. No one wants to build a new bridge or a new highway over one that is “working just fine”. We want to repair the infrastructure that is crumbling, while killing 2 birds with 1 stone; creating jobs now, and allowing for the continued prosperity of our country BECAUSE OF our infrastructure.

      • Jim Bean

        Ah, but you’re thinking in Left-gear. When the bridge begins to malfunction – THAT is when it becomes a revenue issue – a revenue LOSS that requires you to invest to RECOVER the loss. When you’re done with that, you have less revenue in your pocket, not more. The smart guy (conservative) knows the best strategy for infrastructure maintenance it to get the maximum service out of what you have and invest in maintenance strategically to avoid wasting some of the value of your initial investment and/or previous maintenance.

        The not so smart guy (not conservative) thinks we should see infrastructure repair as way to create jobs whether stuff needs repaired or not.

        Don’t get me wrong. I think crumbling infrastructure will bring us to our knees economically within forty years and drive our debt to 30 or 40 trillion – assuming anyone is willing to lend it. But, like social security, our long term infrastructure maintenance fund was raided (never created) by short-sighted politicians. Too late now and all the more reason to be extra prudent in how we begin to address it.

      • BobJThompson

        When have you ever heard a liberal say that they need to repair a bridge just to have something to do? You’re talking about a country where we have a large amount of bridges that are at a D grade structurally, or worse. I live in a town of 25,000 and just off hand I can think of 3 bridges that need repaired here. 2 of them are major streets.

      • Jim Bean

        I live in a town of 850 in SW PA. We have two bridges. Both were completely replaced this summer along with dozens of others in the county. Money came from fracking/gas. When you make good decisions you can reap good rewards. NY has gas but won’t frack. I ain’t interested in chipping in to pay for their infrastructure repairs.

      • Michelle Wells

        They won’t be too interested in supplying you with fresh water, either!

      • BobJThompson

        So you’re saying your county used increased revenue via taxes to fix bridges that needed fixed. How is that different than what liberals want? The only difference I see is that you’re using fracking as the revenue generator vs increasing the taxes on billionaires.

      • Jim Bean

        Its very different. In this instance, the ‘county’ (state, actually) promoted and facilitated industrial growth and lead to the generation of new wealth and the new wealth is a source of new tax revenue.

        The Liberal model involves sucking more tax dollars out existing industrial entities and doing what they can to impede the development of any new ones.

        That’s not just A difference – it a HUGE difference. Its robbing-peter-to-pay-paul vs economic-growth different.

      • BobJThompson

        So the only way to have enough revenue to fix bridges is to forever grow the economy? That sounds extremely unsustainable and exactly why we have so many projects that need repaired today.,

      • Jim Bean

        Its not the only way. There is one other way. You run your economy with a balanced budget with infrastructure repair being a line item in each annual budget. That fact that we don’t have THAT is exactly why we have so many projects that need repaired today.,

        Borrowing the money from China to do it is even more unsustainable than the economic growth approach.

      • BobJThompson

        It’s seeming to be beyond proven that you cannot balance a budget while continually chopping your biggest source of revenue. (ie tax cuts) Taxes should be paid by those most able to afford them as they are the ones benefitting from what society gives them the most. If you can’t repair even your bridges without cutting the “lazy moochers” food stamps, you’re doing something wrong.

        I believe in a balanced budget too. I doubt you’ll find anyone who favors a unbalanced budget. At least long term. You’ll hear some democrats say we need a massive jobs bill to jumpstart our economy and that would require deficit spending, but that spending would be done short term with an eye for a much bigger return in the long term.

        Bush 1 and Clinton really screwed the working class with NAFTA. And Clinton exclusively with Most Favored trade status with China. But they didn’t make those decisions in a vacuum. They were sold promises by business leaders that it would result in a more prosperous America. Those promises, just like trickle down, have been proven to be blatantly false. All they do is make the super rich into the super ultra mega rich.

        According to Oxfam, the top 40 richest families have gained $500,000,000,000ish dollars in the last 4 years alone. Meanwhile counties and states such as yours have to play ground water poisoning roulette to get your bridges fixed. That’s extremely short sighted and not what we have a society for.

      • Jim Bean

        Whether the Bush/Clinton/NAFTA screwed the middle class depends on your definition of ‘prosperity’ and whether you’re only looking at wages. If you look at the whole picture NAFTA raised the middle classes standard of living dramatically. Example: 24″ color TV purchased by my buddy’s dad in 1964 -$460. 42″ flat screen smart TV purchased by me in 2014 – $480. (Virtually the same price) My first new 4wd Chevy pickup in 1974 – sticker $3,700. My new 2013 union made 4wd Chevy pkup – sticker $38,000. 10 times as much. The benefits of access to cheap-foreign-labor-made goods has astronomically outweighed the disadvantages of the loss of better paying manufacturing jobs in terms of quality-of-life-impact for all lower and middle class Americans. The poorest Americans have all sorts of goodies they wouldn’t have if were ‘Made in the USA.”

      • congero

        So why do businesses do better under democratic administrations and since the 80’s what republican president didn’t spend like a drunken sailor?

      • Jim Bean

        You do know that we’re six years into the slowest economic recover in US history, correct? And that this is taking place under a Democrat, correct? And that business doesn’t do well doing a painfully slow economic recovery, correct?

        Barack Obama, 1.2% annual G.D.P. growth rate (previously 1.5%)
        George W. Bush, 1.6% (previously 1.7%)
        George H.W. Bush, 2.1%
        Gerald Ford, 2.2%
        Dwight Eisenhower, 2.5%
        Richard Nixon, 3.0%
        Jimmy Carter, 3.2%
        Ronald Reagan, 3.5%
        Bill Clinton, 3.8%
        Lyndon B. Johnson, 5.0%
        John F. Kennedy, 5.4%

      • congero

        That is not what i asked but even what you showed makes my point…thank you.. Name a republican president since Reagan that has not run up the deficit. Also google economy does better under democratic administrations. Also too(lol)we also are coming out of one of the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression loosing over 800,000 jobs a month under GW Bush. Slowest growth thanks to the austerity measures the republicans are pushing.

      • Jim Bean

        Nearly all have run up the deficit. Only Obama can claim that he ran up twice as much deficit as 43 that came before him – combined.

      • congero

        Republicans have run up record deficits. I know you clowns would like to forget W but Obamas number were due mostly to paying for what W and the rrpublicans did to the economy. Tax cuts while not placing the 2 wars on budget. Medicare prescription program unpaid for,tax cuts not paid for, the greatest economic collaspe since the great depression with the loss of jobs and revenue . The cost of the interest on the debt along with the cost of treating the 35,000 wounded soldiers many of whom will need serious treatment well into this century driving est. of the cost of the wars up to 6-7 trillion dollars. Those are all on Bush’s tab my uninformed Fox News parrot..

      • Andy Kinnard

        You do understand that you’re writing about extraction industries, right? That builds no wealth because it’s a one time process. You’re actually reducing your resources, converting them (once) to fungible capital. That is no building anything; it’s just expoitation.

      • congero

        Two bridges built in 3 months? Can you supply the article and link that they were built by fracking revenue.

      • Cemetery Girl

        You are pointedly ignoring that a majority of bridges, dams, ect. in this country are in need of maintainence repairs! Out of bridges, 11% are in need of at least significant repairs (this percentage covers the need of significant repair to replacement.) One in nine are in need of at least significant repairs. Looking back on my day, I think I drove on or under at least nine bridges, scary thought. It isn’t like there is no need for repairs to be made, that the expectation is to rip into bridges and such with absolutely no problems. This isn’t busy work being demanded on structures that are not in need. This is needed, but apparently “smart people” don’t consider it a need until there is a failure, someone possibly dies, but then the “smart people” will say it isn’t their fault because only an idiot would ignore the problem until there’s catastrophic failure.

      • Jim Bean

        Yes they are in need. Unfortunately there is no money (except here in PA where we’re fixing all our bridges with money from fracking.)

      • Cemetery Girl

        And “smart people” budget for their needs, correct? It is responsible to prioritize needs. We can’t always have a benefit (like increases in employment) from taking care of a need.

      • Michelle Wells

        Is your fracking money going to give you the fresh water you’re going to need soon, too?

      • Jim Bean

        We’ve endured a century of similar doomsday promises from know-it-all’s with regard to coal mining and oil extraction.

      • congero

        Really? Have you seen mountain removal and coal ash waste that has gotten into drinking water and destroyed communities in the Appalachias?
        Try a simple google search.

      • Jim Bean

        I said ‘doom’ – meaning we’re not all dead from it like some predicted. Lots of ecological damage comes from wind farms and liberals with bottled water.

      • congero

        So you find me the quotes. Many have died and towns have been destroyed to continue down that road yes we will be doomed.

      • congero

        If you keep putting arsenic in water and drinking it you won’t immediately die but eventually you will.

      • Andy Kinnard

        I guess their high rates of cancer and birth defects are jus a cost of doing business, huh?

      • congero

        You are so full of it. Didn’t Gov. Corbett and your legislature impose a 28 cents per gallon tax on gas? Until 2019 won’t Pennsylvanians be paying 2.3 billion a year in taxes and fees to help repair your infrastructure? Hasn’t the increased traffic from trucks from the fracking industry helped damaged the roads and bridges and although the industry has agreed to cover some of the cost it is not enough. to cover the full cost which is why the tax i talked about above was enacted. You are lying again by not telling the story. Sort of what Fox does.

      • congero

        That is a lot of words to say nothing.

      • Andy Kinnard

        Infrastructure needs repair. That is a fact that shouldn’t even be up for debate.

      • Jim Bean

        “You write as if we spend government funds on infrastructure, and that money has forever disappeared. No, that money furnishes the budgets of hundreds of thousands (maybe millions) of working class families. This money is immediately spent and amount to massive aggregate consumer demand which drives economic expansion.”

        No. All that happens is x number of dollars gets moved from point to point to point. Over here now but gone from over there. Those dollars do not have baby dollars along the way.

      • Andy Kinnard

        Yes, they do. Those are called multipliers; they are “a thing” in economics and can be measured. The multiplier for SNAP spending, for instance, is (IIRC) 1.76. So, every dollar spent on SNAP is like injecting almost $2 in the economy. Corporate welfare and tax reductions, on the other hand, have fractional multipliers because the cost actually exceeds the economic impact.

        Stop ignoring what happens to the money once it’s spent in (independently, objectively) productive pursuits; the economic impact multipliers are a crucial part of the equation.

      • Jim Bean

        During the inflation of the housing bubble, bankers pumped 5 trillion dollars into the housing construction industry and that lead to 5 years of frantic economic activity in that and all associated industries. If there was any substance to your ‘multiplier’ theory, that 5 trillion would have multiplied to 50 trillion by now. There would be no nation debt and everyone would be part of the upper class.

        But that isn’t what happened is it? You’re model has a flaw.

      • Andy Kinnard

        You’re literally arguing against empirically derived figures calculated by the CBO and replicated elsewhere. Yours is an anti-science argument….and I never claimed there was a multiplier on banksters investment in housing markets, just that there was for SNAP and that I expect a similarly large multiplier for any programs that inject money into the bottom of the economic scale (rather than the top).

      • Jim Bean

        The bankers fed actual American dollar bills directly to workers building houses just as Government (the Federal bank) will feed actual American dollars directly to workers fixing bridges. Once that money is the hands of those workers it will circulate through the economy in equal fashion.

      • Andy Kinnard

        I cannot believe you are trying so hard to disprove a basic economic fact. Look, the poor and working class spend all their income; the rich don’t. The poor and working class tend to spend more of that money locally (and domestically) than the rich.

        Yes, multiplier effects won’t be quite as strong as they are with SNAP, but they would be present, and they would far outstrip the negligible (if any) returns we currently get on the out of control corporate welfare we currently support.

        Yours is much like arguments used by anthropogenic climate change denyers who “wonder” why we should invest so much time/effort/resources and disrupt so much to transfer to renewable, clean energy (when, as they contend, it may not slow climate change). The answer is: Because (even if I accept your ridiculous premise), in the process, we’re making a better world. Your solution just leaves us with the same broken system we already have (and no hope for improvement).

      • Jim Bean

        Yes, the people who got the housing money were joyous. The folks like me and you who got our 401ks trashed because the money couldn’t be paid back – not so much.

      • Andy Kinnard

        The market was not crashed due to bad mortgages. That problem by itself would have been little more than a blip on the economic radar. It required the skills (and corruption) of international banksters to snowball that market bubble into a full-on, world-wide economic melt down.

      • Jim Bean

        What did they do to cause that?

      • Andy Kinnard

        Bundling and rebuilding risky derivatives of those loans falsely rating them as AAA investments, selling them to customers while the banks themselves shorted them. It was a market manipulations scam at all levels.

      • highpckts

        Did you ever hear the saying “penny wise and pound foolish’? Well that is what is going on. Wait until something is broken so that it costs 3 times the amount to replace it rather than fix the problem when it first occurs!

      • regressive whitetrash GOP scum

        jimbo willnot reply; your post made sense and he abhors that
        …………ask him about Wisconsin or kansas

      • Jim Bean

        That’s true. That’s what happens when you’ve fiscally irresponsible.

      • Cemetery Girl

        Smart people know that maintaining your home and vehicle is not a matter of extra disposible income. Regular maintainence extends the life of a home, vehicle, bridge, or road. If you ignore oil changes and brake replacement you end up with costly repairs or having to completely replace the vehicle in just a few years. Ignoring inspection and repair of bridges until they collapse or become too unstable to use doesn’t save us money. Ignoring our waterlines (which in many more populated areas can mean water lines a century old) until they rupture (disrupting service and causing damages to roads and property) doesn’t save us money.

      • Jim Bean

        And as for helping the VA, if you’d tune into Fox once in while, maybe you’d have a wisp of a clue about the subjects you love to give expert advice on.

        “A union representing government employees on Tuesday (Jan 27, 2015) condemned a bill meant to reform how bonuses are awarded at the Department of Veterans Affairs. However, the American Federation of Government Employees argues the bill will only worsen problems that have plagued the agency.

        The bill, which was recently introduced by Rep. Jeff Miller, would allow the secretary of Veterans Affairs to decide what employees at the VA get bonuses and awards.

        Last year, the VA became the center of controversy when dozens of military veterans died while waiting to get help. The issue has been blamed on everything from bureaucratic incompetence to the VA not having enough funding.

        The bill would also grant the secretary of Veterans Affairs the authority to take bonuses away from bad VA employees.”

        ———————

        Miller (the guy that introduced this veteran friendly bill) is a Pub. You know Gdamn well Dems are going to side with the union and against the vets on this bill.

        What a maroon!

      • highpckts

        Tell me. Did you not hear that over 3/4 of the “news” from Fox is either a half truth or an out and out lie? Yet you still believe? Amazing!

      • Jim Bean

        Yes. I’ve heard that from two dozen people at least on these threads. In each instance I asked them to go to the Fox News website and, from the 20 or so stories running on the main page, point out just three that are lies. Two dozen people asked. Not one responded. You’re welcome to give it a try though if you really think you know what your talking about.

      • congero

        All we have to do is link to MM’s, Newshounds, right wing watch. It is not hard. It is obvious you don’t know wtf you are talking about. You tried that same bs at MM’s and got your hat handed to you. You’re a clown proving that Fox viewers are the least informed. Go read a book.

      • Jim Bean

        No one responded because no one could provide evidence to prove their fantastic claims. I’ll add you to the list.

        When the people who knew logging was killing the Spotted Owl, who new Zimmerman was guilty, who knew you could keep your plan and doctor, who knew you would be saving $2500/yr on health insurance, who knew that OWS was the biggest civil uprising since the Civil War, who knew there were shovel-ready jobs, who knew Wilson was guilty, who knew sequestration would cause the greatest depression ever, who knew science would prove XL was too risky, and who knew increased crude on the market would NOT have any effect on gasoline prices tell me that I’M the one who is uninformed and relying on the wrong sources . . . . well. . . . .lets just say I’m not all that negatively affected.

        Here’s your hat.

      • congero

        Repeating Fox garbage again i see. You will add me to the list? Too funny. I gave you sources that have more than enough about Fox’s lies and this site won’t let you link. There is even a article on this site about a study that found that Fox News is the least trust worthy You’re weak tea .

      • Jim Bean

        Google – most trusted news source – .
        You are getting quite the education today. You’re welcome.

      • congero

        You don’t have to google just look at the article at this site about the study that found when it comes to truth Fox is the least trust worthy and the others that found Fox viewers were the least informed. Damn just look at your comnents and the ignorance contained in them. You are not schooling anyone and quite frankly should be embarrassed by the level of stupid you show in them but you would have to have a brain and use it, ethics and some decency. All three of which you lack. You’re just a scrub,a willing parrot .

      • Andy Kinnard

        Appeal to popularity is just sloppy work, Jim.

      • congero

        Link to Vermont High School students eviscerate Fox news ethics Happy reading Sparky.

      • Jim Bean

        Like Fox News is the only one engaged in character assassination.

        And if you liberals would stop claiming your smarter and more informed than everybody else people would stop testing it and making fools of you.

      • congero

        Those kids exposed the lack of journalistic ethics of Fox news. When you have to lie ,distort and tell half-truths to make your point your point is a lie . No the ends don’t justify the means Mr. Right wing authoritarian follower.

      • Fred Raby

        They learned from the best “Obama”

      • congero

        The lack of ethics the high schoolers exposed at Fox was learned from the Obama administration? Drinking early Sat? Just for shits and giggles google Reagan administration officials indicted and tell me the number.

      • Michelle Wells

        Fox will tell you they are an “Opinion” station, not factual. They create their own news as they see fit. You want to believe what an Aussie and the Saudis feed you? That’s who owns your precious FOX!

      • congero

        Why would somebody turn to Fox that is the least trust worthy of news outlets?

    • highpckts

      Excuse me but WHEN has ANY Senator or Rep ever asked you how you wanted them to vote on any issue? They are not working for the “people”! They have their own personal agenda and screw you! All this crap about working for the people is BS!!

      • Jim Bean

        That’s crazy. The ones who ignore the people lose the next election. See 2014 mid term results.

      • congero

        You come here and drop turds you’d never get away with at MM’s. Your post are nothing but regurgitated bs you hear on Fox .

    • Cemetery Girl

      Obama saying he will veto legislation really isn’t an issue if it can’t even get the support to get off the ground. As you said, if legislation does make it to his desk then he must face that backlash if the people disagree. The system is designed so the will of the people, as represented, will dominate. Frequently compromise is key. This goes beyond legislation, it is the key to finding the optimum solution to any group problem. We have got to hear for several years that partisan politics was the problem (although adults should have the ability to work with people vastly different than them to achieve at least some results). Now there is Republican majority, an event that the party had claimed was their key to finally getting some results, and fighting within the party is interfering.

    • SevenPatch

      Typical RW propaganda – blame Obama. Somehow it is Obama’s fault that the republicans are dysfunctional. Please.

      Listen up, the way government is supposed to work is that both sides are supposed to work together to come up with laws that both feel will benefit the country. What we’re seeing is that the Republican Party can’t even work with itself as it has been hijacked by extremists. You act as if Obama should bow down to extremists.

      Quit being a tool.

  • wendy

    My 15 yr. old worded it perfectly: there’s Pro-ress and there’s Con-gress

  • Yeah? …YEAH?!

  • highpckts

    Stumbles??? that’s all they do!

  • Cemetery Girl

    I think it will be interesting to hear how exactly this will be blamed on Obama and/or Democrats. For years now it’s always had to be their fault, regardless of facts, so this should be some interesting spin.