John Boehner Posts Yet Another Ridiculous Tweet Following Overwhelmingly Positive Jobs Report

boehner-obamaIt’s becoming a monthly tradition for me to monitor the internet the first Friday of every month for when the newest jobs report is released, then head on over to Speaker of the House John Boehner’s Twitter account to see how long it will take him to tweet something negative about job growth – despite the fact that we’ve created almost 11 million jobs in the last 5 1/2 years and our unemployment has fallen below 6 percent.


Well, this month was no different. Coming off the announcement that we added 321k jobs in November (the most of any month this year), and 2014 is now officially the best year for jobs since 1999, I decided to have a little fun. I headed over to my Twitter account and tweeted my prediction that within an hour of this announcement John Boehner would tweet out something trying to put a negative spin on the news that we’re having the best year for jobs in 15 years.

Here’s my tweet:

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Though it seems I might have been far too generous with my prediction of “within an hour.” You see, I should have predicted something a little sooner – like less than five minutes. Because it took exactly three minutes after I posted this for John Boehner to send out a tweet pathetically trying to bash this recent jobs report:

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It only took three minutes after I posted my tweet (which I sent out as soon as the newest jobs report scrolled across my computer screen) for Boehner to try to ridiculously fear-monger about job creation. And these monthly tweets from Boehner always crack me up because he never mentions how many jobs were created – unless the numbers fall below estimates. And I sure as heck knew he wasn’t going to mention that we just created 321k jobs in November, marking the best year for job creation since the last Democrat lived in the White House.


Let me word that another way: In 2014, under President Obama, we’ve seen job growth unlike anything we saw during any of George W. Bush’s eight years in office.

Not to mention, considering that a “healthy” unemployment rate sits somewhere between 4-5 percent, there will always be millions of people looking for work. And if he wants to whine about some of these jobs not paying enough, well, that’s not Obama’s fault. Stocks are skyrocketing and many corporations are raking in record profits – while taxes still remain at historic lows. If he’s trying to claim that wages are stagnate, then he’s admitting that trickle-down economics is a scam.

But instead of Boehner taking the highroad by informing his followers that 2014 will go down as the best year for job creation in 15 years, he decided to do what Republicans almost always do – fear-monger and misinform the public.



Allen Clifton

Allen Clifton is a native Texan who now lives in the Austin area. He has a degree in Political Science from Sam Houston State University. Allen is a co-founder of Forward Progressives and creator of the popular Right Off A Cliff column and Facebook page. Be sure to follow Allen on Twitter and Facebook, and subscribe to his channel on YouTube as well.

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  • allinfun

    John Boehner is a sad excuse for a human being; more than that, though, he (and his goddamned party) WANT things to be bad for Americans as a whole as long as Obama is President. That in itself, is simply a traitorous and un-American position…and a shameful position…for any politician or political party to hold. Simply despicable. These people are beneath contempt, and for simple minded voters who aren’t in even the top 10% economically to vote for these bastards is mindboggling.

    • wendy

      And sadly so many people go along with this madness. Even people with intelligence. WTF? Very puzzling :/

      • Gloria

        I­­­­­’­v­­­­­­e s­­­­t­­­­a­­r­­t­­e­­­­­d m­­­­a­­­k­­i­­­­n­­­­g $­­­8­­­­­­5 a­­­­­­­n h­­­­o­­­­u­­­­r s­­­­­i­­­n­­­c­­e i s­­­­­­t­­­­a­­r­­t­­­e­d t­­­­­­­o f­­­­­­r­­­­e­­­e­­l­­­a­­n­­c­­e o­­­n­­l­­i­­n­­e s­­­i­­­­x m­­­o­­n­­­­t­­­­­h­­s a­­­­­­g­­­o… M­­­­­­­y j­­­­o­­­­­­b i­­­­­s t­­­­­o w­­­­­o­­r­­­­­­­­­k a­­­­­­­­­t h­­­­­­o­­m­­­e f­­­­o­­­­­­r f­­­­­­e­­­­w h­­­o­­u­­­­­r­­s e­­­­­v­­­­e­­­r­­­y d­­­­­­­a­­­­y a­­­n­­­­­­d d­­­­­o s­­­­­i­­­­­­m­­p­­l­­e w­­­­o­­­r­­­k i g­­­­­­e­­­­­t f­­­­r­­­o­­­­m t­­­­h­­­­­i­­­­s c­­­­­o­­­m­­­­­p­­a­­­­n­­­­y t­­­­­h­­­­­­a­­­­t i f­­­­o­­u­­­­n­­­­­d o­­­­n­­-­l­­­i­­n­­­e… I a­­­­­­­m v­­­­e­­­­r­­y e­­­­­x­­­c­­­i­­­t­­e­­­d t­­­­­­­o s­­­­­h­­­a­­­­r­­e t­­­­h­­­i­­­s o­­­p­­­p­o­­r­­­t­­u­­n­­i­t­­y t­­­­­o y­­­­o­­­u… I­­­­­­­t­’­­­­s d­­­­e­­­­f­­i­­­n­­­­e­­­t­­­­l­­­y t­­­­­­h­­­e b­­­­e­­­­s­­­t j­­­­­o­­­­­b i e­­­­­v­­e­­­­r h­­­­­a­­­­d…

    • curmudgeon VN Veteran

      He’s just another Washington establishment politician every bit as bad as the corrupt politicians who label themselves as democrat.

    • Jim Bean

      It never ceases to amaze me how the most economically dissatisfied people continue to throw all their support behind the party that depends exclusively on keeping them economically dissatisfied in order to get their vote.

      That behavioral disorder has a clinical term that applies to it. Stockholm Syndrome.

      • wendy

        2 words; Christianity & guns

      • Andy Kinnard

        Unfortunately, Jim, unless your views have changed, it’s your belief that the groups are the working class, poor and minorities, and the party is the Democratic Party.

      • Jim Bean

        Yes. Those are the ones the Dems must keep economically dissatisfied in order to win elections by Gruberizing them to believe they want to make them as economically satisfied like the folks who vote Pub.

      • Andy Kinnard

        “Gruberizing”? LOL, that’s rich.

      • allinfun

        are you on drugs? Stockholm Syndrome caused by listening to Fascist News Network seems to be your affliction.

  • thriver7

    And of course we all know that the Republicans have a long history of creating jobs and looking out for working class families.
    They all happen to be in developing countries at unethically low wages.
    Our little special version of slavery-light.

  • Ricardo_007

    Boehner plays to the White Privilege set who deny their privileged place in society and are simultaneously resentful of Black achievement. President Obama is the face of what White supremacists fear the most and would rather shoot themselves in their collective feet than to allow our Black president any recognition for the achievement the economy enjoys while he is president.

    • curmudgeon VN Veteran

      Just another face of a failed experiment in affirmative action.

      • regressive teaparty trash

        ^^^^^ proof^^^^^^,,,,,,,,this chowderhead is a white supremacist^^^ based upon his regressive reply^^^

    • Dwight Wilkerson

      Ricardo_007 You have hit the nail squarely on the head and will undoubtedly get tons or replies calling you every bad thing imaginable for simply stating the obvious truth as will I most likely for agreeing with you! However it is a pleasure to see someone put the truth out there for the elitist and fear mongers to choke on! Great analogy!

  • Brett Taylor

    well if he’s so concerned by people out of work and middle class families trying to get by then why doesn’t he pass a jobs bill and tell his corporate CEO friends to raise the pay of their workers instead of taking it for their own bonuses…

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    • wendy

      Because then he wouldn’t be the definition of a hypocrite

    • strayaway

      Obama passed a ‘stimulus’ bill of sorts. It originally was supposed to include a lot of infrastructure work but women’s groups thought too many of the jobs would go to males. The number of infrastructure jobs in the bill was cut back and replaced by shoring up public sector union jobs, friends of Obama, where layoffs were in the offing. Not many jobs were created as jobs were saved.

      It’s about impossible to both raise wages and add millions of new workers to the work force to compete for about the same number of jobs (supply-demand 101). I do support state level increases in the minimum wage though because they will lead to more productivity through automation and, at least temporarily, a reduction of welfare recipients and government bureaucrats needed to service them.

      • clr1390

        The welfare rolls are lower than before the recession. In my county in OHIO, Clark, are less than 100 people on cash assistance. back in the 90’s there were over 5 thousand people. They are throwing people off before they can even apply. The effort is working. the poor in this country are drowning under republican ruled states. While John Kasich continues to give massive tax cuts to the wealthy, the rest of the state and the cities, and townships are doing without safe roads, cuts to education, police and any other thing the state government use to fund. Why is it that Fox never reports this massive reduction that is happening all over the country on welfare benefits. Food stamps are not included on cash assistance. As long as slave wages that do not cover basic living expenses, food stamps will remain high.

      • strayaway

        As long as jobs are shipped overseas and illegal aliens an foreign tech workers are protected classes allowed to undercut US worker wages, supply demand 101 suggests that US workers cannot demand a larger share of our nation’s economic pie. Where you address our problems with taxpayer handouts, I lean more toward going with the tide of supply an demand to eliminate the need for many of these handouts. I realize though that the Democratic Party relies on votes from those its policies have made needy since it abandoned US workers and the middle class. A substantial portion of Republicans are just as responsible for promoting the flow of cheap foreign labor and sending jobs abroad for profits’ sake.

  • wendy

    Actually surprised Boener didn’t somehow take credit for the job market by twisting it to make him look like a hero.

    • curmudgeon VN Veteran

      Hey Wendy, Boner and McConnell are just two more useless politicians who both fit better into the RAT party than the Republican party. Unfortunately they had name recognition and voters just as uninformed and ignorant as those found in liberal enclaves. Think Washington establishment and the opportunity to load their pockets at your expense.

  • DMJ

    A republican that tries to fear monger? Say it ain’t so. I would never have guessed

    /sarcasm just in case

  • Eg Kbbs

    To ask the obvious, was Boehner honest enough to compare the 11 million jobs created in 5 1/2 years to the number of jobs LOST during a 5 1/2 year period during GWB ?

    • curmudgeon VN Veteran

      Trading full time jobs at decent wages to the part time and seasonal jobs of the Obama administration I would hazard a guess.

      • JanMutcher

        Which the GOP wants to make even worse by passing Right to Work Laws. Say goodbye to decent paying jobs with benefits folks. Its the “trickle up” theory on steroids.

      • curmudgeon VN Veteran

        When the unions are forced to stop extorting ‘dues’ from the rank and file employees the democRAT party will be starved from receiving the contributions funding their campaigns and the union officials lavish life styles will be cut as well. Won’t have any effect on the actual working man other than putting more money in their paychecks.
        Illegal immigrant amnesty will have a far greater negative effect on wages.

      • Andy Kinnard

        Wow, unplug from the right wing rhetoric machine, for your own mental health.

      • curmudgeon VN Veteran

        You do realize that you liberal members of the flock all run the gamut from borderline crazy to full blown insanity?

      • Andy Kinnard

        No, it’s not like that’s some objective fact, just your opinion. But take comfort in the knowledge that we feel the same way about 90%+ of the conservative trolls (like yourself) who would take the time to comment habitually on affirmatively liberal site like this.

      • curmudgeon VN Veteran

        Pretty much everything on this site is purely opinion with the exception of knee jerk reactions from the majority of liberals who post here because they cannot find jobs and need to fill their days.

      • Andy Kinnard

        You’re failing to discern the difference between well-formed, well-supported opinions and those that are based solely in ideology or fantasy.

      • JanMutcher

        So what you are saying is that you are for the middle class having their wages lowered as well as their benefits and safety all because you don’t want the democrats to benefit from the unions donations? You know I am sick and tired of the GOP letting this country and it’s citizens deliberately suffer because they didn’t want the President to succeed in any way. Every jobs bill that he proposed, they added the Keystone pipeline, drilling in the arctic or lowering taxes on the top 1%. All of which they knew he would never do. And thanks to the Kochs, Adelson and others money, they won big in the election. And you’re worried about Unions donating? I’m of the opinion that in the next 2 years, they will show their true colors and even the mega donors won’t be able to save them.

      • curmudgeon VN Veteran

        Jan, don’t you feel hypocritical for your lack of giving credit to Soros, Steyer, Buffett, Hollywood and the union officials credit for all their generous donations? I also suspect that you feel there would be no Quid Pro Quo in exchange. You people on the left are very naive or however Jonathan Gruber has described you.

      • Ricardo_007

        What the fuck do you know about unions, other than what Faux Snooze tells you to believe? As a former card carrying member of two locals, I can tell you that union dues are minimal and entirely worth the price. For that matter, they are tax deductible. You would be unable to find your ass with both hands unless Charles Krauthammer helped you get out of your pants first. But that’s another story.

      • curmudgeon VN Veteran

        Well jerk wad, I have paid into 7 separate locals in my early work life and never found them to be worth crap. The protected the laziest and most useless, feather bedded at every chance and made the officials of the National unions wealthy. Keep getting your news from Mother Jones and your business agent. They would never steer you wrong. Don’t you feel stupid now? Better go check with your local for the proper response as I realize you are not allowed to think for yourself.

      • Sean T Gallagher

        you can’t stop making shit up sir can you

      • curmudgeon VN Veteran

        No more than you could ever stop drinking the Kool Aid.

      • Clay Moore

        IT WAS FLAVOR AID DAMMIT!

      • regressive white trash reli

        ^^^FOX^^^ “news” ^^^watcher^^^
        ……………based upon the over-used “kool aid ” metaphor

  • We’ll, to be fair, I’m old enough to remember the Kennedy administration. When unemployment over three percent was considered a crisis and a disgrace demanding government action.

  • regressive teaparty trash

    shouldn’t all the regressive republican troll on here— and serfs such as jim bean– be trumpeting ( incorrectly) how ” job participation” is at all time (?) lows? —-They don’t mention that ‘job participation’ on not only a useless stat ( baby boomers retiring/ many people going the self employed way of income) but also those ENTERING the job force is accelerating; as are wages? (OH I 4GOT—–) the newer one is our economy is increasing IN SPITE OF OBAMAS policies!!! ( please re-visit GW bush economy/ job ‘creation’ -none- / surplus 2 deficit ETC),,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, bottom line? Republican policies-and results –over the past 25 yrs are dull and dead compared to Obama and Clinton!

    • curmudgeon VN Veteran

      You must be Jonathan Gruber’s poster child.

      • regressive teaparty trash

        shall we review the past 25 yrs of republican policies and the effects of those policies upon all americans??
        ===========================================
        we can keep it simple an start with such basics as job creation and deficits….shall we?

      • curmudgeon VN Veteran

        Obviously you do not possess the intellect. Sorry Sparky!

      • regressive teaparty trash

        awwww,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
        did da widdle puddy cat faw down an’ go BOOM again?
        ********************************************************
        seems expostulating with facts annoyeth thee?

      • Thebob

        How old are you? Cause I sure as hell remember growing up in the 90’s and we were a lot better off back then because of all the work that Reagan’s policies provided the upturn in the 90’s. Please don’t mention Clinton, he didn’t do jack in office except what’s her faces face….Clinton skated by on all the good from past policies. I will say it was what Clinton signed is what cause the crash in housing in 2008. In reality we just need to let the market do what it was meant to do and weed out failing businesses.

      • regressive teaparty trash

        wrong again

    • Thebob

      How can you talk about the last 25 years of reb. policies. Only 1 rebuplican president has been in office for the last 25 years… GW in 2000-2008. Clinton 1992-2000 and Obama 2009-Current 2016.(hopefully I don’t think he will leave. He will make some executive decision banning the elections.) Okay, Ill give you Bush Sr. From 90-92 that equals the last 25 years, but last 24 have been all dems policies except for Clinton who had to wheel and deal with a Republican congress. Same for GW also had a Dem controlled congress which is why the 2000’s sucked.

      • Andy Kinnard

        Yeah, all Democratic policies except for nearly every year of their holding office where they each had to deal with an intransigent GOP Congress. No progressive fiscal policy was passed during those periods.

      • regressive teaparty trash

        hey kreskin– in the past 25 yrs we have had TWO democrat presidents and TWO republican presidents-
        (try 2 stay with me here as your math is failing)
        *************************************************************************
        2014-25 EQUALS:
        (a) 2008
        (b) 2004
        (c) 2000
        (d) 1996
        (e) 1992
        (f) >>>>1989<<<<< ( see: wasn't that fun?)
        ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
        1989 (1988) to 1992 daddy bush (R)
        1992 to 2000 Hillary Clintons fella
        2000 to 2008 baby bush
        2008 to 2014 (2016) Kenyan commie muslim
        ***************************************************************
        are U still with me? good…… lets continue–!!
        lets compare the POLICIES and RESULTS of those policies over the past 25 yrs- dem and repub/
        ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
        oh,,, and as all presidents are historically based upon WHAT HAPPENED DURING THEIR ADMINISTRATION,,,,,, we will keep with that tradition and look at the ratio presented of " policy / results"
        ========================================
        you can go first

      • Thebob

        Considering Clinton didn’t do jack in office those 8 years don’t count so you can throw out all those policies off the bat, cause it was the House with Gingrich who ran the government at the time. Everything Clinton (Hillary not Bill wore the pants) failed miserably. He was carried on Reagan’s policies that helped the country in the 90’s. Bushes problems can be related to 9/11 and The failed banking policies of the early 2000’s which were cause by Clinton….the one bill he actually got passed which allowed Investment banks to hand out loans like Savings banks…These were kept separate for a reason…This also lax’d the stipulations for loans which the Clinton administration put pressure on the big banks to hand out sub prime loans to trash who couldn’t afford them, which lead to the 2008 crash. The next big thing was the damn ball outs of those banks by your lord and savior Obama. The banks should have just been let to die or pull themselves out. Other than taking our liberties Bush didn’t really do anything while in office other than spend us into oblivion with 2 wars we should never have been in. Now what has Obama done, not shit other than pass ACA which no one wants and it will fail hard. Already is.

      • Andy Kinnard

        Oh, and the bank bailout was ALL baby Bush, brother. You’re talking out of your ass.

      • Thebob

        Good for you for knowing a Fact…It wasn’t Bush, they started the process while he was in office but Obama’s name is what signed that bill….And I didn’t like Bush. He single handily took away more freedoms than any other president….Obama didn’t agree with it either, so he says, yet they continue to expand the NSA spying on citizens with out a warrant under his reign….

      • Andy Kinnard

        Um, no. TARP payouts occurred mostly under W.

  • Michelle Wells

    It constantly amazes me what a total ass Boehner continues to be!

    • curmudgeon VN Veteran

      Why, he is as bad as nay libtard.

      • Clay Moore

        When you misspell any it makes the libtard ironic.

      • curmudgeon VN Veteran

        Typical libtard response to any statement that does not agree with their utopian World view. You could probably figure it out without the snarky comment, then again that would be against your nature.

      • regressive white trash reli

        ^^^^alcohol^^^^and frozen pizza^^^ abuser^^^^^

  • clr1390

    A thriving economy is not healthy for republicans. Spinning good news gets a little harder when everything is going good. But, with the help of Fox. the best of news is doom and gloom.

    • curmudgeon VN Veteran

      You want pickles and onions on that? The job qualifier for one of those majors in Liberal Arts.

      • Clay Moore

        Baseless ad hominem. Sure sign of an unstable mind with no valid argument.

      • regressive white trash reli

        ^^^upset^^^as he didn’t^^^ GO 2 COLLEGE^^^^^

    • curmudgeon VN Veteran

      Better to control the EPA, BLS and the IRS so you can fabricate the figures you need and the regulations to control the masses.

  • RayandFannie Esparza

    And the Boner and his party have not done a damn thing to try and fix the problems of the last 6 years….In fact they have done all they can to make it worse but things have gotten better in spite of the GOP and Business……

    • curmudgeon VN Veteran

      Obama is just plain awesome isn’t he? He can sure read the heck out of the thoughts of his minders that are loaded on his beloved TOTUS!

      • Sean T Gallagher

        not one of your posts has made any sense to anyone but you ,are you a WWII vet that is off his senility medicine …

      • curmudgeon VN Veteran

        Difficult for you public school ‘graduates’ to understand much other than political correctness and trying to socialize with others considering your educational deficiencies and severe personality disorders.

      • Clay Moore

        Says the paid troll. That’s just priceless.

      • curmudgeon VN Veteran

        Ugh say Kemo Sabe!

      • regressive white trash reli

        ^^^^showcasing^^^^his^^^rapidly^^^advancing^^^age^^

      • RayandFannie Esparza

        sure beats Bush…Didn’t know Obama could read my thoughts…..

      • curmudgeon VN Veteran

        Of course he can. Gruber outed all of you drones.

      • RayandFannie Esparza

        Did not day anything about Gruber not being able to read my thoughts…..

      • curmudgeon VN Veteran

        I did not day he could, but he did out you low intelligence voters.

      • RayandFannie Esparza

        Read your own comments ..Maybe you can understand your own thoughts and writings…Maybe you smoked one too many joints in ‘Nam or maybe they put you too digging one too many shitholes over there…Bet you are clear case of crazy…

      • regressive white trash reli

        he is an alcoholic,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
        ….NOT a pothead
        ======================================
        witness his quotidian anger

      • Clay Moore

        You should throw Benghazi in with your references to Gruber every once in a while. It will give you more credibility.

    • curmudgeon VN Veteran

      For the 1% and the welfare leeches, not for the White middle class nor the Blacks who would like to have jobs. You must get your ‘news’ from the liberal lap-dog media.

  • GenerallyConfused

    My question to speaker Boehner would be what, exactly, he intends to do about it. He is, after all, the speaker of the house. He could do something to help those he’s using for a talking point, but instead he’s just using them as a fear mongering tool. Typical John Boehner and his inability lead his caucus.

  • wendy

    Wonder if he will take credit or pounce somehiw on the lower gas prices

    • curmudgeon VN Veteran

      I suspect your boy Obama will economic genius that he has proven to be.

      • regressive teaparty trash

        correct–
        ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,or shall we look at USA dec 2008 VS dec 2014??

  • FD Brian

    And what has Boehner done about anything? Maybe he should formulate a plan or strategy to help America before spouting off like that.

  • Sean T Gallagher

    has Boehner passed that huge turd in his ass yet ..this guy is taking bets in Vegas against the economy I guess..

    • curmudgeon VN Veteran

      Yes, he was just giving birth to another liberal.

      • regressive teaparty trash

        what EXACTLY are ” conservatives” ( see” regressives) actually ‘conserving’????

  • RightofAttila

    Progressives should be thankful that Boehner is the Speaker. He is a slippery turd that is getting Obama’s amnesty completed through the back door.

  • Thebob

    Boehner is an idiot I will agree with that, but these “Jobs Numbers” are a farse and filled with lies. There are more people out of work than in the 1970’s down turn. The problem is just because people aren’t seeking job’s they don’t get counted….That doesn’t sound right. That would be like counting homeless as this. Well you don’t have a job, you walk around collecting cans and junk all day, but you live in a card board box, that counts as a home you aren’t homeless you don’t count….That just stupid. Sorry people but do the research. There are some 36 million Americans that just don’t get counted into the jobs numbers. Also I have made this point before. Losing 1 full time job and adding 2 part-time job’s doesn’t replace that full time job….These number once again are a farse and full of lies…You can play with the number’s all you want all you have to do is go look around the city you live in and ask some people how well off they are. Just like FDR’s policies drug out the Great Depression longer than it would have with out government intervention. Obama’s policies are doing the same thing.

    • Andy Kinnard

      Last two sentences are totally unsupported (in your comment).

      U1 doesn’t account for participation rate, but several of the others, especially U5 and U6. So, this IS captured, and the U6 has been coming down in tandem with U1…non-participation is not the problem it was a fee years ago.

      Meanwhile we and the Democrats DO talk about the structural changes in the job market manifesting as fewer part time, living wage jobs with benefits.

      Oh, and raw numbers of out of work people is not a good stat to use (unadjusted for population growth) to compare economic health across decades.

      • Thebob

        look up the facts about FDR and his policies continued the depression longer than it would have had he just let the market correct itself. Just look up the history. They don’t teach you about the truth in school. There was a crash in the early 1920’s It was Coolidge or Harding but they didn’t meddle in the market and let it fix its self. It did so with in a couple of years and we boomed until the great depression. There have been many corrections/crashes in the market and every time we had a Democrat president in power they screwed it all up and drug it out longer than needed. When there was a Republican in office they let it fix itself and it did so… Same thing in the 70’s with Carter….Didn’t get fixed until Reagan took office…..Learn your history before you speak child.

      • Andy Kinnard

        I’m not addressing your attempt to divert the conversation to FDR. If you actually believe that tripe, then you’re far too gone into Austrian economics fundamentalism for me to waste time trying to reach you.

      • Thebob

        So, I prove my point and you just run from it….Proven FACT about his policies. Also it says something the moment the man died Congress passed term limits on the Presidential Office…even though FDR was in their same party. Obama is following the same principles and failing miserably keeping our economy down longer. The only reason we have any kind of economy is the FED is propping up everything, the moment that stops, the market will crash even harder and mega inflation will ensue. I hope you all are ready to be paying $20 for a loaf of bread or a gallon of milk. I call it by 2022 we will regress again, just like we did with the Great Depression, except we will lose thousands of people, because most of you idiots live in these Mega Cities and will run out of food in less than a day. Have fun…

      • Andy Kinnard

        You can double down on a red herring, but that just leaves you two red herrings.

      • regressive white trash reli

        his idea of statistics is:
        since 51% of americans are women,,,,
        —-all americans are women- statistically

      • Thebob

        Also, easy enough to figure out unemployment. Total number of 18+ minus disabled people divided by how many people don’t have jobs = unemployment % which is like 12-15% or more. Not this common core type of math these idiots try to use to make their numbers look better. Our biggest problem is we don’t produce anything here because the government has made it to damn expensive to do business in this country. California perfect example corporations, small and medium businesses are running from CA. Too high tax rates and not enough good workers in the state. More people in CA take than give back that’s why the state is going to die. But not nearly as bad as Illinois; even more perfect example. Lets promise to pay our tax payer funded jobs more money than we have or will ever have. Good idea there. Oh Fluoride is Poison FYI.

      • Andy Kinnard

        Your first sentence basically describes the U6 measure. Not sure what all this ranting about California and taxes is.

        The cause of offshoring is, indeed, the cost of wages and, to a much lesser degree, nominal business tax rates. However, this USED to be offset (many decades ago) by an expectation that businesses would be good for the society that hosts them; there was an implied obligation to function as a member of an organized and purposefully prosperous society. The American business community worked to slowly erode that expectation and get it codified into law via most court judgement and their attendant precedents. None of that was a result of the government DOING anything, and certainly not RAISING business taxes (didn’t happen). What DID happen was other countries lowering their business tax base rates. I want no part of a race to the bottom (funded by my increasing share of the national tax burden), thanks.

        We also unreasonably liberate from international businesses the currently socialized costs of pollution and other environmental impacts of all the international shipping accompanying international manufacture.

        I would also totally be in favor of protective import tariffs (though I don’t expect free market fundamentalists to agree).

        Fluoride may be poison if ingested in sufficient quantity, but fluoridated drinking water improved the dental and general health of the US population (in the last 80 years) more than anything but childhood vaccination and the development of antibiotics. When you rant on that stuff, you marginalize yourself, brother.

      • Thebob

        Wrong on the Fluoride, ALL those stats are LIES. Over time as its been long enough and not 80 years… 1945 it started fluoride actually cause calcification in bones, tissue, and teeth that actually causes more harm. Also we are still the ONLY developed country pushing Fluoride. It should be a choice not a mandatory. Also it’s PURE POISON look it up. All the fluoride that is added to our water is MAN MADE and it comes from the Phosphorus Fertilizer industry. Sodium Fluoride or Hydrofluorosalisicacid All POISON. Also fluoride in no way is needed in our bodies period it is not a fundamental mineral. Yes I know Calcium Fluoride is found naturally in some water but the is also NATURAL its not the MAN MADE POISONS they force on us. FDA considers it a medicine would you drink our water if they put Anti-depressants in our water and dosed everyone the same way…..Sorry No DOCTOR would recommend a ONE TIME DOSE FOR ALL AGES ALL BODY TYPES ALL RACES the same across the board. Again you are wrong and need to learn yourself.

      • Andy Kinnard

        My experiences speaking with people who lived through the 30 and 40 is that (congruent with the research you say is a sham) fluoridation of water supplies had a singularly positive impact on public dental healthand, therefore, overall health. Your concerns do resonate with me but are not persuasive enough to get me to advocate totally abandoning the practice.

      • Thebob

        Fact 1: Lies about Fluoride you love so much.

        It is often claimed that fluoridated water is the main reason the United States has had a large decline in tooth decay over the past 60 years. This same decline in tooth decay, however, has occurred in all developed countries, most of which have never added any fluoride to their water.[4] Today, according to data from the World Health Organization, there is no discernible difference in tooth decay between the minority of developed countries that fluoridate water, and the majority that do not.

        Fact 2:
        Fluoridation advocates often say that “nature thought of fluoridation first.” By this, they mean that fluoride occurs at naturally high levels in some water supplies.[11] Lots of toxic substances, however, like arsenic, and even some medicines, like lithium, occur at naturally high levels. This doesn’t mean they’re safe.[12] Further, the level of fluoride added in artificial fluoridation programs is far higher than the level of fluoride that occurs in the vast majority of (unpolluted) fresh surface waters.[13]

        Fact 3:
        According to a recent national survey by the CDC, about 40% of American teenagers have a condition called dental fluorosis.[18] Fluorosis is a defect of tooth enamel caused by fluoride’s interference with the tooth-forming cells. The condition shows as cloudy spots and streaks and, in more severe cases, brown stains and tooth erosion.[19] In the 1950s, health officials claimed that fluorosis would only affect 10% of children in fluoridated areas.[20] This prediction has proven false. Today, not only do 40% of American teenagers have fluorosis, but, in some fluoridated areas, the rate is as high as 70 to 80%, with some children suffering advanced forms of the condition.[21]

        Hope you learned something here today.

      • Thebob

        Maybe what I posted below will be enough to tip the table for you…Tell your wife or show her these facts and see is she still wants to give it to her children…Mine didn’t believe me either until the facts were presented to her….Fluoride is straight up poison and does more harm than good…Hence why Alzheimer is sky rocketing with no real evidence as to why or what causes it…maybe it is fluoride….About the right time frame 60+ years…They have been drinking it that long (elderly). Osteoporosis effects like 1 in 4 women now, fluoride blocks other minerals from entering your body. Cancer’s are everywhere been on the rise for the last 60+ years…same time frame as water fluoridation. Does it seem like kids are dumber these days??? Fluoride lowers IQ in teens and children by 3+ points and it isn’t reversible….I believe Princeton did a study on this…Oh did you know you can’t find a Cop in this country with an IQ over 100…

      • Thebob

        Read Cloward and Piven….all I got for you. This is what the people who truly run our Government are doing. Obama is tool figure head, he has no real power. Nor does most of our so called leadership in congress.

      • Andy Kinnard

        I would agree that most government machinations serve other interest than those of the People.

  • BkDodge42

    From the Jobs report, the month of November added 321,000 jobs yet the unemployment rate remained unchanged at 5.8% and the number of unemployed remained at 9.1 million. If adding 321k jobs was such good thing, why is unemployment rate remaining the same and the number of unemployed over 9 million? How is it that the unemployment rate for adult men rose if we added 321k jobs?

    Read the jobs report and try to tell me that there is some good to be found in it, without ignoring the actual facts that it describes.

    Nancy Pelosi’s comments on the jobs report is laughable when she stated that the economy has made strong progress when the unemployment rate remains the same and the labor participation rate is unchanged and the lowest since the 1970’s

  • Gene Millsaps

    Typical self-promoting administration-basing negativity … However, Sir Allen, “stagnate” should be the adjective “stagnant.” And we do appreciate your progressive voice!