Latest 2016 Speculation Could Completely Shake Up the Democratic Party

joe-biden-elizabeth-warrenAs most people who follow me are aware, I’m a Hillary Clinton supporter. I like Bernie Sanders and I certainly don’t believe Clinton is a flawless candidate, but I do actually like her and I think she gives Democrats their best chance to keep Republicans out of the White House in 2016.


Honestly, that should be everybody’s top priority. I’m not going into 2016 hoping for a certain candidate to win, I’m going into 2016 understanding that within the next 2-10 years up to four Supreme Court Justices might be retiring and I damn sure don’t want a Republican president replacing those spots.

Well, the last couple of days I’ve come across some rather interesting rumors that could shake up the entire Democratic party and deal a huge blow to Hillary Clinton’s chances. If these rumors were to become true, I could very well be persuaded away from the “Clinton for President” camp and I know many others (both Clinton and Sanders supporters) would be taking a second look at things as well.

It’s no secret that Vice President Joe Biden is mulling a run for president. Well, apparently part of his strategy could include Sen. Elizabeth Warren as his running mate. You see, there’s been some talk circulating that Biden’s recent private meeting with Warren was in relation to her being his VP with the promise that he would only serve one term, opening the door for her to run in 2020.

It might sound a bit far-fetched, but Warren also recently avoided saying whether or not she planned to run for re-election in the Senate in 2018.

If you ask me, that’s an extremely effective ticket. Not only is Biden fairly well liked, but Warren is an absolute rock star among progressives. She would perfectly compliment him as a running mate, appealing to the far-left liberals who are wanting a “more progressive” president in 2016.

But even beyond that, Biden’s son, Beau, who tragically passed away recently, fought in the Iraq War. So, while Republicans might go out there and harp on and on about our national security and ISIS, all Biden would have to do is stand on a stage and say, “My opponents can talk about national security all day, but I’m the candidate whose son went over there and fought for it.”

Even beyond that, if these rumors came true this would be setting up a Warren presidency, which liberals were hoping would happen in 2016 (before Berniemania). It’s been my belief that her reluctance to run is based upon the fact that she’s a highly intelligent woman who wasn’t going to run for president unless she felt ready to do that job. Well, four years as senator and four years as the vice president would make a great transition into the White House.

If this turned out to be true (that’s a huge if at this point as it’s all speculation), it would be a fairly substantial deviation from the norm. Typically, running mates aren’t announced until after a candidate wins the nomination. If Biden were to tab Warren as his running mate during the primary, that would make things very… very interesting. Then again, Donald Trump is the overwhelming Republican frontrunner, so it’s not as if things haven’t been interesting already.

If this were to happen, it would devastate Clinton’s campaign. Even as someone who’s supported her for quite some time, the thought of a Biden/Warren ticket has me excited. If you told me now I had to choose Clinton or Biden/Warren, I’m probably choosing Biden/Warren. So far, Clinton’s campaign has been run horribly and she’s just now starting to get things back on track.


What would interest me most if Biden and Warren were to team up would be how Sanders supporters would react. Being that a lot of his support flooded over when people finally gave up hope on Warren running, I would be curious to see if some of those folks would switch over to the pairing of Biden/Warren, with the extremely likely odds that it would lead to “President Warren” in 2020. I’m well aware of the irrationality enthusiasm of some of Bernie’s supporters who will take nothing less than “FeelTheBern2016.” It’s like I’ve said before, I really like Sanders – but his supporters can sometimes be a problem.

Though if Sanders people were to oppose a ticket that had Warren on it, what big knocks could Sanders supporters have against it? Biden is worth only slightly more than Sanders, so it’s not as if he’s a multimillionaire elitist. Hell, for 30 years Biden took the Amtrak train from Delaware to Washington.

They might try to “tie him in with Wall Street,” but then are they saying that Warren would align with someone who’d be a puppet for big banks? That wouldn’t make a whole lot of sense based on who she’s been as a senator. And while he did vote for the Iraq War, he also had a son who served in that very same war. So, it’s kind of hard to bash him as a “warhawk” when the war he voted for (based on lies from the Bush administration – don’t forget that) was also one in which his son ultimately fought.

All that being said, not only do I think Biden/Warren would win – easily – but it would also set up Democrats to control the White House for twelve years instead of just the next eight.

Either way, I think it’s fairly certain that if this were to happen it would deal the biggest blow to Clinton’s campaign.

While I’m not sure how realistic any of this is, I will say it definitely has me a bit excited. Not only do I like Biden (I’ve just never really thought he would run for president to be honest), but I absolutely love Warren. And while I sill do like Clinton, her campaign has been fairly terrible thus far.

When it comes to Sanders, while I like him as well, I still don’t see this nation electing a 75-year-old democratic socialist as president.

In the end, as I’ve said plenty of times, I don’t care if the nominee is Hillary Clinton, Bernie Sanders or Joe Biden – we have to support that person. Because no matter what any of think about any of these three individuals, on their worst day they’re still boatloads better than any of the clowns running for the Republican nomination. There’s just too much at stake in 2016 to let Republicans win back the White House.

Feel free to hit me up on Twitter or Facebook and let me know what you think.



Allen Clifton

Allen Clifton is a native Texan who now lives in the Austin area. He has a degree in Political Science from Sam Houston State University. Allen is a co-founder of Forward Progressives and creator of the popular Right Off A Cliff column and Facebook page. Be sure to follow Allen on Twitter and Facebook, and subscribe to his channel on YouTube as well.

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  • strayaway

    When Hubert Humphrey ran as the Democratic establishment candidate, George McGovern and Eugene McCarthy were making huge gains as anti-war candidates. I am trying to make the point that Sanders is the equivalent of the McCarthy/McGovern vote. Putting his finger to the wind, Bobbie Kennedy then jumped into the race and metamorphosed into an anti-war candidate further splitting the anti-war/anti/establishment vote. It is possible that the Biden/Warren option would instead split the Sanders movement and thereby give the primary to Hillary. Behind the scenes, the Hillary machine is alleged to already have harvested a large number of party establishment “superdelegate” votes and 20% of all delegate votes. Warren had her chance.

    • Jen

      Maybe I don’t understand how delegates work, but how can Hillary have any delegates before any votes have been cast?

      • strayaway

        Read up on Democratic Party super delegates. The Republican Party isn’t alone in being top down. Some pigs are more equal in both parties it seems.

        “According to advisors Clinton has a fifth of the delegates she needs to be the Democratic nominee.” -MSNBC 8/28/15

        These are probably pledges.

      • Jen

        Thank you. I will look into that.

    • kissyface

      has to be fake… there is no way there wouldn’t be leaks in 5 days

      • strayaway

        It was the FEC email address that has me puzzled but it does seem strange that if it were real, there is such silence.

  • Creeayshun Sighuntist

    This is a great way to get people talking about the Democratic party again instead of focusing on the collection of nitwits the GOP has assembled. Democrats can talk ideas and share those with America while the GOP continues to focus on Trump’s toilet campaign and his war with Fox.

  • The Cosmic Avenger

    Wait, “President Warren in 2020”, Allen?? There’s nothing I’d love more, but you really think Biden wouldn’t run for reelection, or Warren would run against the person who chose her for vice-president? Or did you mean “President Warren in 2024”?

  • Progressive Patriot

    Good analysis, Allen! This may turn out to be a much more interesting election than I ever expected. I like Hillary, but not my first choice. I like Bernie, but I think he ultimately will be problematic for many. I really, really like Joe but I rather thought his age would be a barrier – the Biden/Warren combo could overcome that, I think.

  • zmann

    There is no way Warren would choose to be Biden’s running mate even if she were given the chance. Warren is needed in the Senate and Biden is D-MBNA. The way this article is written in trying to avoid Sanders is like someone who has all the fresh ingredients to make a healthy pizza but would rather foolishly order another unhealthy box from Pizza Hut. Sanders is the real deal while Hillary and Biden are the “I feel your pain but oops I must cave in to the right” deal. Interestingly, Sanders is bringing in support from all over the political spectrum while poor Hillary is losing support like sand slipping through her fingers. As far as the email issue is concerned, she’s being unfairly pelted while Gowdy can get away doing the same in Congress. However, I don’t think she handled it well and looks very vulnerable to swift-boating as soon as she’s the nominee if she becomes the nominee that is.