Let Me Address Those Who Suddenly Seem to Think Carly Fiorina is Some Kind of Superstar

carly-fiorina-liesTo call Wednesday night’s GOP presidential debate a train wreck would be an understatement. It was nothing more than 11 individuals standing on a stage trying to stick out in a ridiculously overcrowded field of some of the worst presidential candidates this country has ever witnessed.


Well, besides how absolutely awful the “debate” was, another common theme that emerged from Wednesday night is that Carly Fiorina apparently “won” the evening. Now to be fair, she was probably the most well-prepared and disciplined candidate of the bunch. She was very outspoken and clearly intended to take on Donald Trump whenever she got the chance. Many Republicans have been begging for someone to finally hit him hard, and she gave them exactly what they were looking for.

There’s just one small problem – she’s completely full of crap.

Aside from essentially saying she would likely start WWIII with the Russians if she were elected president, nearly everything else that came out of her mouth was nothing but empty talking points. What I saw on that stage wasn’t a presidential candidate at a debate, it was a well-rehearsed businesswoman. All she needed was a Power Point presentation and a laser pointer.

While her interaction with Trump was what most media pundits focused on in the aftermath, I personally think her most “noteworthy” comment of the night came when she decided to try to slander Planned Parenthood.

“I dare Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama to watch these tapes,” Fiorina said. “Watch a fully formed fetus on the table, its heart beating, its legs kicking, while someone says, ‘We have to keep it alive to harvest its brain.'”

Oh sure, that’s a very graphic and powerful statement. Once again, there’s just one slight problem – that video does not exist.

Absolutely nowhere in any of the videos released by radical Center for Medical Progress is there anything even remotely close to what Fiorina described during the debate. The closest thing Politifact found during their investigation pertained to a single account from one woman who claimed she saw a fetus with a beating heart – with absolutely no mention about needing to keep it “alive” to harvest its brain.

However, I do have a bone to pick with Politifact on this one. Somehow they only gave Fiorina’s comment a rating of Mostly False, when there’s not a shred of truth to anything she said. There’s no video of a fetus with a beating heart kicking its legs on a table nor did anyone every say they wanted to keep a fetus “alive” to harvest its brain. I’m really confounded as to how this comment didn’t get rated a Pants on Fire rating considering there was no factual basis to anything she said.

Other than that, for most of the night, Fiorina spewed a whole lot of really well articulated nothingness and flat-out lies. Can any of her supporters pinpoint a single policy she actually outlined from her campaign? Well, that is, aside from her disturbing desire to trigger WWIII.


Heck, she even tried to boast about her time as CEO of HP. You know, the company she was fired from in 2005. She took a powerhouse tech company and nearly ran it into the ground. While she slashed thousands of jobs, shipping many overseas to China, she gave herself a nice hefty raise and bought a massive yacht and several private jets.

I can’t help but wonder, how many jobs could have been created at HP with the money she used to buy all of those jets?

Think about it: If she was really that successful at HP, why didn’t another tech company snatch her up in an instant after she was fired? That answer is simple: Because she was a disaster.

In fact, Fortune did a fantastic fact-checking of some Fiorina’s claims concerning her supposed “success” at HP. They pointed out that during her time there, shares of Dell were actually up 11 percent, while printer rival Lexmark saw their shares rise by 29 percent – all while she drove HP into the ground.

I fully believe that during a real debate (which we’re not going to see with 11 candidates on one stage) Carly Fiorina would get absolutely exposed as the charlatan she is. But on a stage where style trumps substance, those who stand out the most are going to be the candidates who seem to perform the best.

Either way, it’s not at all surprising to see Carly Fiorina’s popularity rise with conservative voters who seem to care more about style rather than substance. Some people never learn. 



Allen Clifton

Allen Clifton is a native Texan who now lives in the Austin area. He has a degree in Political Science from Sam Houston State University. Allen is a co-founder of Forward Progressives and creator of the popular Right Off A Cliff column and Facebook page. Be sure to follow Allen on Twitter and Facebook, and subscribe to his channel on YouTube as well.

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  • Creeayshun Sighuntist

    She is yet one more republican who has no chance. She bankrupted a company, shipped 20-30 thousand jobs overseas and then took a $20 Million severance package after she destroyed the company and all of those employees lives and has been unemployed ever since. But that is considered a success by today’s republican party standards. I think America will beg to differ when they look at her record.

    • Nancy B

      What company did she bankrupt? Certainly not HP. No need for hyperbole, since the rest of your statement is correct, and more than enough to prove her a far-less-than-mediocre CEO who cherry-picked her stats to make herself look good.

      • ohpaleasegivemeabreak

        She did them major damage.

        More importantly, the damage she did to them massively damaged their reputation.

        Now they have another “I’m rich so I think I can buy political offices” witch at the helm who is once again laying off massive numbers of people so the profits can funnel up to her.

      • Nancy B

        No need to educate me on her horrible CEO-ship. I had HP stock at the time. I was just pointing out to Creeayshun that bankrupt was not correct. He gets carried away sometimes.

      • Tim

        They didn’t bankrupt. They declined significantly while the market grew. They also made the worst defibrillator *ever*, but I digress.

      • Nancy B

        I agree. i was just calling out Creeayshun’s hyperbole.

      • 1968_Camaro

        What hyperbole? He is telling it like it is. You must enjoy crashed stock markets, failed businesses and wasted taxpayer money. That’s what the Republicans are so good at!

      • Nancy B

        No, he is telling it ~mostly~ like it is. I called BS on the bankruptcy claim only. Nothing else. Did you read the original post? Or did you just jump in in the middle and pull wild assumptions out of your a$$ to start something?

    • Lorna Dee

      HP is once again filing for bankruptcy and firing 30,000 employees. This is corporations doing what they do best. Nothing new……! She and the entire GOP party merely work for their own wealthy interests including working for the wealthy religious pulpit politicians and pan handlers of the religious right. .

      • ohpaleasegivemeabreak

        HELLO – when is it that you think they are filing bankruptcy? They just acquired another company in July.

        True – they are laying off lots of employees because Meg Whitman is trying to recover all the money she wasted trying to buy the California Governor’s office.

      • Lorna Dee

        Hey, thnx! Meant to say restructuring.

    • kitty

      Well look at where she ended up, in politics. Just proves the dishonesty and corruption doesn’t matter to Washington.She fit right in.

      • Creeayshun Sighuntist

        Unfortunately, being a Washington “outsider” doesn’t guarantee honesty either. She and Trump are two of a kind, and neither has a clue about how to run a country. They only know how to make a profit or bankrupt a company.

      • 1968_Camaro

        Bankrupt a company is right! She nearly drove the company into bankruptcy, even if bankruptcy at that time did not happen. Had she stayed on, we probably would not be buying HP printers anymore because she would have driven the company into the ground.

    • ohpaleasegivemeabreak

      That sounds like a republican badge of honor qualifying them for a Presidential Medal of the highest order.

    • 1968_Camaro

      Creeayshun,

      I agree. I am also going to add that the Republicans love to crash the stock market as well as bankrupt companies. They are terrible businessmen/women who don’t know how to manage money. At the Congressional level they are the top bananas when it comes to wasting taxpayer money, particularly on the obscene corporate subsidies they like to give to their fat cat pals. The REAL welfare queens are Big Oil, Big Pharma and other large, already profitable corporations that do not need OUR money.

  • Brian

    She was the one most blatantly going for sound bites.

    • kitty

      She studied and it was apparent.

  • loup garou

    So why does the GOP think the POTUS should be a place for OTJT. (On the job training)?

    • Eric Lucas

      I think that’s a ridiculous argument. Every non-incumbent president goes through a learning curve to some extent, some more than others. But the fact is, a working brain, a good set of values, a practical ability to get things done in a sometimes hostile environment, and a reasonable set of guiding principles are all far more important that any sort of directly relevant work experience…whatever the hell that means. And by the way, what would you consider good prior experience? Congress? Bullshit, legislating and running the executive branch are COMPLETELY different skill sets. Running a Fortune 500 company? Bullshit, running a company of 30,000 employees is NOTHING like running a government of over 1 million people or a country of 300 million people.

      • Epsilon_Center

        Any new promotion requires a learning curve, but previous experience is an indicator of future success. I am not finding a doctor who ran a small department at a university, a person who bankrupt his own company 3 times, nor a CEO fired by her own board having the requisite knowledge, skills not aptitudes to be presidential material. Governors, at least have administrative ability, former VPs probably know the job best, only 3 senators and 1 congressman have ever been elected president. Some generals get elected, but only Washington and Ike have done good jobs as POTUS. The GOP is setting itself up for failure at the current rate.

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    Republicans have not learned from their mistakes and as long as they cater to their most extreme wing will be doomed to repeat them.

    • Jim Valley

      That will apparently be forever.

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