A Message to Kentucky County Clerk Kim Davis: You’re a Disgrace and a Hypocrite

kim-davis-marriageOne of the most dominant stories of the last few days has been the continued refusal by Kentucky county clerk Kim Davis to issue marriage licenses to same-sex couples, in defiance of the Supreme Court’s ruling that bans on gay marriage were unconstitutional. Wait, a slight correction – she’s actually not issuing any marriage licenses, not even to straight couples. In other words, she’s not doing her job.


If you ask me, I get the feeling this is just all one big scam.

Normally this isn’t a story that I would pay that much attention to, but it’s just so absurd. This woman literally doesn’t have a legal leg on which to stand, yet she’s still trying to prevent something that’s inevitable. She actually believes that her religious beliefs supersede Constitutional law.

Except, there’s just one problem: Her job isn’t that of a religious figure, but that of a public government employee who took an oath to uphold the laws of Kentucky – which are directly tied to our Constitution. 

Somehow this woman thinks issuing marriage licenses has something to do with religion.. it doesn’t. 

But it gets even better. While Davis claims issuing marriage licenses to same-sex couples violates biblical law, the truth is, she’s been married four times. 

Wow, right? Oh, but that’s not even the best part. According to U.S. News:

The marriages are documented in court records obtained by U.S. News, which show that Rowan County Clerk Kim Davis divorced three times, first in 1994, then 2006 and again in 2008.

She gave birth to twins five months after divorcing her first husband. They were fathered by her third husband but adopted by her second. Davis worked at the clerk’s office at the time of each divorce and has since remarried.

If your head is spinning trying to piece all of that together, let me try to break it down for you. She was cheating on her first husband (committing adultery – which is punishable by stoning in the Bible) with the man who would eventually become her third husband; though her second husband ultimately ended up adopting the children who were the result of her adultery; she then later went on to marry her third husband who is the biological father of the twins conceived of her extramarital affair. Meanwhile, all three marriages ultimately went on to end in divorce.

Then she got married for a fourth time. 

Where’s Jerry Springer when you need him? You really can’t make this stuff up.

And this is the woman who has the gall to try to tell gay Americans she won’t issue marriage licenses because of something written in the Bible?


Holy shit. 

So, in the spirit of Ms. Davis’ hypocrisy, I thought I’d write a personal message to her.

Dear Ms. Davis:

While I understand you have your faith (and that’s great), nobody cares. Your job is not that of a religious leader, it’s that of a government employee who swore an oath to uphold the laws of your state. Laws, by the way, that are bound to our Constitution. It is not your place – nor your right – to deny Americans their Constitutional right to marry the person they love.

Not only that, but you’re an absolute disgrace and a hypocrite. Do you understand how utterly insane it is for you, of all people, someone who has trampled on the “sanctity of marriage” through divorce and adultery, to tell someone else that you’re not going to issue them a marriage license because you respect what the Bible says about marriage?

You are out of your damn mind. According to the Bible, you should have been stoned to death years ago. In fact, if you weren’t a virgin when you married your first husband, that was “stoning #1.” Then, when you cheated on him, that was “stoning #2.” And I’m fairly certain at least a third stoning was probably called for due to your other failed marriages.

At least, you know, according to the Bible.

Oh, and you do realize that adultery is part of the Ten Commandments, right? Do you know what’s not listed among them? Homosexuality. 

I guess it’s a good thing our laws and our Constitution aren’t based on the Bible, isn’t it?

If you don’t want to issue marriage licenses, then quit and go get a job at a church or religious organization. Your job is to do what the law tells you to do – not the Bible.

Not only that, but do you realize how many atheists and non-Christians you’ve issued marriage licenses to? Those people couldn’t care less what you think of marriage – because your views don’t matter to anyone but you. Which is how it’s supposed to be.

So, you can keep on trying to resist this all you want, but it won’t change a damn thing. I would say you’re going to lose, but you’ve already lost. The only thing currently saving your ass is that you’re an elected official which makes you more difficult to remove. But make no mistake about it, soon all of these people you’ve denied marriage licenses to are going to get married – and there’s not a damn thing you’re going to be able to do to stop them.

I hope with every ounce of my being that when this is all said and done, you’re hit with so many fines and legal fees that it makes your head spin. Because when you waste this much time, and deny Americans their Constitutional rights for as long as you ultimately will, there are consequences – and I hope they are severe.

But until then, enjoy your fourth marriage. Well, at least while this one lasts.

Sincerely,

Allen Clifton

Until this gets settled, I would encourage every gay American reading this to mail a wedding invitation to Ms. Davis:

600 West Main Street Room 102
Morehead, KY 40351

Just a friendly reminder that no matter what her personal feelings are, gay marriage is legal in the United States – and there’s not a damn thing she can do about it.

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Allen Clifton

Allen Clifton is a native Texan who now lives in the Austin area. He has a degree in Political Science from Sam Houston State University. Allen is a co-founder of Forward Progressives and creator of the popular Right Off A Cliff column and Facebook page. Be sure to follow Allen on Twitter and Facebook, and subscribe to his channel on YouTube as well.

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  • Creeayshun Sighuntist

    Typical crazy conservative….. do as she says, not as she does. It might be time to send in the National Guard or 101st to force her to uphold the laws of the United States of America. It wouldn’t be the first time we had to send in the military for something like this.

    • Actually, she was elected as a democrat, but her positions ar obviously conservative. Must have switched parties just to win the election.

      • Howard Sands

        I was thinking the same thing.

      • Creeayshun Sighuntist

        Only republicans are rallying to save her, and her position on marriage equality is to the extreme right. Whether she identified as a D to win an election means absolutely nothing.

      • Cougar Age

        I think she’s a republican that registered for the wrong party. Otherwise she wouldn’t happily chill with Huckabee.

    • Marty Ratliff Cornelius

      Idiot she is a democrat. Pay attention to the news.

      • Howard Sands

        Hey, before you call someone an idiot look at what they said. They said Typical crazy conservative. They She didn’t say Republican or Democrat. There are conservative democrats. Apparent holdovers from the Civil War. Democrats today are generally not conservatives. But this wacko clerk is obviously a Civil War era minded Democrat, which is what the current republicans are closer to. You know the type.

      • 1968_Camaro

        That is correct. She may be registered as a Democrat, but she is very conservative, more like today’s Republican Party.

      • Howard Sands

        And her supporters are Huckabee and other GOP candidates advocating for this clerk to break the law.

      • Creeayshun Sighuntist

        LOL……that is hilarious….thank you for the laugh today!

  • Creeayshun Sighuntist

    BTW Allen, that is a GREAT letter!!! Ouch!

  • Ruth Coker Burks

    then she would get recognized by the Guinness Book of World Records for most cards received by one person..just saying..she wants to be recognized for anything!

  • Gary Menten

    Enough is enough. If she refuses to follow the court order, she should be immediately jailed and fined for contempt of court.

    • Jillz

      She and her staff are scheduled to appear in court tomorrow morning, so her jailed martyr status may start then, if we’re lucky!

      • I’m Me.

        Do you really want someone to be jailed based on their beliefs? In her mind, she will spend eternity in Hell if she issues a marriage license to a gay couple. Whether you agree or disagree with that belief, it’s not something for which she should be jailed.

        If she was elected to the position after the Supreme Court’s ruling on Gay Marriage, we would have a different issue, but the law came into effect after she took office.

        Also, this isn’t an issue to be resolved with an invalid argument of “well then I believe (insert ridiculous belief system not followed by anyone other than yourself as justification to her being jailed).”

        This woman (while not necessarily following the same beliefs as you and I) is trying to make her life better after becoming a born again Christian and is attempting to follow the word of God. Only the devil would condemn her for this.

      • Barbara D Holtzman

        “Do you really want someone to be jailed based on their beliefs?”

        No, I want her to be made accountable for contempt of a court order, of a court, of the judge, of the law, and of our society in general, which says that you have the freedom to worship as you choose, but not to impose that choice on others. She makes a mockery of everything American, and behaves more like the Taliban or ISIS, those who believe that religion shoudl be the law of the land, and that those who do not believe as they do should be scorned, when she does.

      • Wayne Johnson

        Coincidentally, this is the same state that tried to ban Sharia Law.

      • Howard Sands

        And Ironically too.

      • DeeWW

        “behaves more like the Taliban or ISIS” Oh, right, right. She’s leading armies and taking over cities and slaughtering anyone who gets in her way. What lunacy. Grow up.

      • noah vail

        give her a chance…she’s got to be a martyr here first

      • Howard Sands

        Did you even read what you yourself placed in quotes?
        There’s a big difference between behaving like someone and behaving “more” like someone.
        The “more” indicates that while she is not behaving like the Taliban or ISIS, her behavior is closer to that then it is to the proper behavior.
        kapeesh?

      • TalesOtaku21

        Even if this woman is disgraceful, comparing her to serious and violent hate groups like ISIS is a really stupid comparison. It’s terrible she would deny people their rights, but that is not the same crimes as murder, torture, and kidnapping, among political tyranny. Tone it down.

      • Cougar Age

        Nope, I think she is exactly like ISIS. Only she can change that by embracing our secular society.

      • Cthulhu0818

        Go and watch the videos of her interacting with the gay people trying to get married. This harridan would gleefully kill them if she thought she could get away with it.

      • Diana Michelle

        Really? I saw her surrounded by yelling people demanding what they wanted. “What law do you base your actions on?” “God’s law” she responded.

      • strayaway

        You nailed it. The court doesn’t really care what her motive is. There is no CO classification for clerks. The court cares about whether she refused to carry out the law. It could be worse though. It could be a federal official who violated the law; even a president who violated his oath to “preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States” and then went ahead and bombed Libya, refused to enforce immigration laws, made some executive legislation, and even renamed a mountain without having the Constitutional power to do any such things. How about promoting consistency by treating him the same way? I prefer “Denali” but legislation is required by Congress.

      • raysot

        Do I want her to be jailed for her beliefs?

        Nope… I want her jailed for not doing her job….. A job that she is PAID to do.

        How’s that?

      • Itsthewater

        Shouldn’t be jailed for either. Fired? Yes, but jailed?, no way

      • Jillz

        She can’t be fired – she was elected. She is in contempt of court.The punishment for contempt of court is at the discretion of the judge, who in this case chose to incarcerate her.

        Don’t confuse the issues. She is not in jail for her beliefs. She is in jail for defying the court.

      • Jillz

        I arrived to the discussion late, but like those before me have said, no of course she should not be jailed for her beliefs; she should be jailed for contempt of court and fired for not doing her job.

        If her religious beliefs do not allow her to carry out the essential duties of her job, and her beliefs are so sincerely held, then she should just resign her position. The law has changed. She is an elected public official. She is not doing her job.

        Think of it this way. You have a job at McDonald’s but your sincerely held religious beliefs say that eating cheese is a sin. You are not required to eat the cheese yourself (just as Kim Davis is not required to marry someone of the same sex), but because of your beliefs you refuse to fill orders for cheeseburgers.

        Is McDonald’s required to change their menu for you? Or, should you just look for another job?

        Her job is not religious, and there is no justification for her feeling that she has the right to deny others their Constitutionally guaranteed rights.

      • DeeWW

        Jillz, thank you for a logical argument. Your point is well taken, and thanks for not arguing she’s comparable to radical terrorist organizations than have murdered and slaughtered hundreds of thousands of people.

      • Itsthewater

        Why didn’t the gays just go to another place to get a license instead of making a big deal out of it???

      • Jillz

        I’m sorry, but the most direct answer to your question is a question

        Why should they?

        Using my McDonald’s illustration above, how would you feel if you went to a McDonald’s and were told you would have to go to a different location if you wanted to order a cheeseburger? And the reason you were given is that the religious beliefs of one of the employees prohibited her from eating cheese (just as Kim Davis’ religious beliefs prohibit HER from marrying a same-sex partner).

        Same sex marriage is legal in the USA. Kim Davis has NO RIGHT refusing American citizens their Constitutionally guaranteed rights, and they shouldn’t have to be inconvenienced by HER personally held religious beliefs, especially if they do not share the same belief system.

      • Itsthewater

        You see? That unfortunately is what th d United States is coming to. MY RIGHTS are more import than YOURS. That’s BS. I would have just went to another one or changed restaurants. They are doing this just to try and prove that they are right. Which they are not, by the way.

      • Jillz

        How does gaining the equal right to get married become an issue of “MY RIGHTS are more important than YOURS”?

        Same sex marriage is legal in the USA. How does the observance of one’s lawful rights somehow equate with having greater rights than someone else?

        The only one saying “my rights are are more important than yours” in this case is Kim Davis who somehow feels that her religious beliefs (which have no connection to her job) justify HER refusing the rights of others. How can you not see this?

      • Howard Sands

        I do suspect that the gun comparison would hit home if anything does. people who usually oppose equal rights are the same ones who love their guns. A pretty bad combination. Plus they aren’t all that bright. if they were, they wouldn’t equate equality with themselves losing rights.

      • Itsthewater

        So you think that people that have sex with animals should be allowed to?

      • Jillz

        No, of course not. That would be abusive to the animal, and it’s against the law. Comparing homosexuality to bestiality is dishonest btw, there is no comparison, regardless of what Phil Robertson says.

        Same sex marriage is legal in the USA. Kim Davis has no right to refuse tax paying citizens their lawful rights.

        Respectfully, can you answer my question about the Quaker pacifist refusing to issue a gun license based on their sincerely held religious beliefs against violence?

      • Itsthewater

        Homosexuality used to be Ilegal also until you progressive thinkers made it not. To me, homosexual sex is repulsive as can be but it’s legal, so it’s OK? As far as the quaker not issuing a gun permit, I honestly would just go to a different permit grantor. I wouldn’t fly thousands of miles to apply at his office just to make a point. Honestly I wouldn’t.

      • Jillz

        Until “progressive thinkers” made it not? Are you serious?

        LOL Try again.

        I think what you mean is until same sex partners, who have to pay the same taxes as everyone else, got tired of not having equal rights, as the Constitution guarantees.

        It is absolutely ok. Same sex marriage is legal now, regardless of how it used to be. Therefore, Kim Davis has NO RIGHT to deny other citizens their equal rights.

        You can find homosexual sex repulsive if you want; no one is saying you don’t have that right. But no one is also asking you to PARTICIPATE in it, so it really shouldn’t concern you if others do [participate]. It also doesn’t affect you if same sex partners get married.

        As far as you going to another gun permit granter? Come on now. Are you seriously trying to tell me that if you went to a government office and a PUBLIC servant refused you a license based on THEIR own personal beliefs that you would just go somewhere else? Maybe …. maybe … I dunno about that. Thank you for responding to the question though 🙂

      • Cougar Age

        If the animal in question is a consenting human adult then yes.

      • Cougar Age

        Not everyone is the coward you are. I’m glad she’s being stood up to and any other clerk behaving as she is should get in trouble too.

      • Howard Sands

        I guess in the 1960 blacks should have tried to go to restaurant that would serve them.

      • Cougar Age

        Because they were right and she was wrong and they wanted her to know it. I stand with those against Kim Davis.

      • Veronica Davidovich

        Then GTFO of the job. That’s the truest, most visceral way to get your point across. It wasn’t “Jesus killed everyone for their sins”, was it?

        She can believe in whatever she wants. But a government office isn’t the stage for any religious blather, because contrary to what the Religious Right wants, separation of church and state stands. Let’s see what kind of protests would come out of churches getting their way, only to discover what kind of taxes their already empty coffers are going to have to fund.

        Fact is, the super-religious like this moron want to have it all while giving nothing. It’s seen in Davis and in how much of a tip a waitress gets after church lets out and a 5-15 person family goes out to enjoy brunch (oh, it’s so very true. So, so true). She wants to keep her highfalutin job, even if by HER standards, it should be considered a tool of the devil. She wants to be like her precious Jesus? Quit, suffer, end up homeless and be seen as a gracious martyr for “the cause”.

      • Cemetery Girl

        Fine, find her in contempt for not issuing licenses to straight couples then. She was being sued by straight couples also. If you watch the latest video of her refusing to issue a marriage license she states they aren’t issuing licenses. She doesn’t say “not to homosexuals”, not issuing, period. (If she issues to straight couples but not homosexuals then she is clearly discriminating. Instead she’s just refusing to do her job.) The position calls for determining if a couple meet the legal qualifications for marriage, issuing the license. She wasn’t put in the position to play God’s gatekeeper to marriage.

      • noah vail

        if she is paid by taxpayers she should “render unto caesar that which is caesar’s”…isn’t that what HER book says?

      • Dawn

        don’t forget this one

        Romans 13:1-2 (NIV).

        “Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. Consequently, whoever rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves.”

      • strayaway

        “Good Germans” must have memorized that one but curiously the Nuremberg defense didn’t always work in court. Maybe things change.

      • Howard Sands

        I don’t know your beliefs, but I can safely assume that you haven’t been jailed for them. Nobody is jailing this horrible clerk for being a bigot and a hypocrite. She is being jailed for imposing her beliefs on those she swore to serve. One of the problems we have in this country of late is that people who hold strong religious views are fighting against the rights of others. Nobody’s views should ever ever be imposed on others. That’s how wars start. And nobody in good conscience should ever pretend that THEY and only they know what God wants. Hey, there are people who don’t even believe in God.

      • Terrence Ganten

        I don’t believe in any person/thing just watching over us all & waiting to send us to hell forever because we didn’t live up to gods words . lol that sounds like a real forgiving and compassionate thing to do for an almighty being. [email protected]

      • Itsthewater

        Just like the gays are imposing their beliefs?

      • Jillz

        LOL I really am sorry to keep answering your questions with questions, but how are “the gays” imposing their beliefs, exactly?

        Are “straights” also “imposing” their beliefs by getting married?

        Gays aren’t seeking additional rights; they are seeking equal rights. There is a huge difference. You seem like a reasonable person, think about it. A person is a person – why does one person have a right to get married while another person (who also pays taxes) shouldn’t have that right?

      • Howard Sands

        The backwater people like isthewater WANT this country to be run by the church. As long as its HIS or HER church.

      • Howard Sands

        Let’s see. If “the gays” are imposing their beliefs by demanding (and being granted) equal rights, then, based on your philosophy, anyone who believes differently from you is imposing their belief.
        I’m not Christian. I must be imposing my belief. Even though I (like “the gays”) am not telling you who you can and can’t marry. Nobody is forcing you to accept equality. But you have no right to deny it. Just like I don’t have to accept a backwards religion that tell people to fight against the rights of others.

      • Cougar Age

        Did you just come out the closet? Explain how gayness is imposed onto you. Are you no longer able to enjoy being with the opposite sex? It’s okay, it’s legal to love who you want to love and marry who you want to marry so long as they are a consenting adult that is not already married 🙂

      • Cougar Age

        She was jailed for contempt of court. If she truly feels gay marriage is wrong, she should resign.

      • Creeayshun Sighuntist

        I’m sorry but becoming a born again christian doesn’t automatically make your life better. And believing in magical friends for grownups who live in the sky doesn’t make you a good person. It only makes other believers in the same mythology think you are a good person, which she isn’t.

      • Terrence Ganten

        How many times can 1 person be “born again” 3 divorces, cheating, kids out of wedlock but now we are just to go with her bs about being born again? Gtfohwtbs. There is no proof of any god but there is plenty of proof that she broke the law. The word of law is greater than the word of some unseen man-made deity. Notice she is in jail for breaking the law not for breaking her word to her mythical sky monster. Bibles were wriyten by man to ensure they would remain subservient to the leaders. Period. You do know there are 1000’s of scriptures left out of the bible because they were deemed not scary enough to keep their people in line like the part of hell is not for eternity. You never read that in any bible as it gives sinners an out.

    • She’s in jail, ordered there from a FEDERAL judge. HAHAHAHA they don’t play around. What an idiot.

      • Gary Menten

        Defying a Federal Court judge is is generally not a good idea. I suspect however, that after a few days, she will offer to resign her $80,000/yr job and be let out of prison, whereupon she will hold a tearful press conference on the steps of the court, and try to milk her fifteen minutes of fame for every penny she can.

  • Jessica Heflin

    Hmmm…let me think. How long would I keep my job if I picked and chose when I wanted to do it. Let’s see…pretty sure I’d receive disciplinary actions until I was termed. Why is this employee any different?

    • DeeWW

      It’s actually an elected office. She would have to be impeached to be “fired.”

      • Howard Sands

        Not doing your job, and/or selecting who you do your job for, is an impeachable offense.

      • strayaway

        Does that go for Obama not enforcing immigration laws too?

      • Howard Sands

        It goes for anyone. Now, all you gotta do is prove that PRESIDENT Obama is not enforcing immigration laws.

      • strayaway

        Immigration laws do not permit illegal aliens into the US. One third of illegal aliens entered the US legally but overstayed their visas. President Obama is not removing them. Instead, he claimed there was not enough money to do so although he ran the Federal debt up $8T spending away on other things there was also no money for. Like Kim Davis, he picks and chooses which laws to enforce. Obama said that ICE would just concentrate on removing illegal alien felons. Then, he made it effectivley only the worst of felons. On top of that, he announced “I changed the law” the day after he assigned Homeland Security the task of handing out work permits for illegal aliens to take Americans’ jobs. That was a violation of his oath of office and the Constitution which says all legislation comes from Congress.

      • Howard Sands

        If all that is true, then I agree with you.

      • Cougar Age

        Why are you complaining about Obama when he has more deportations under his belt than his predecessor?

      • strayaway

        Bush was for amnesty. He betrayed US workers too. Count Ronnie with that crowd too.That isn’t saying much. Under Truman, a Democrat, 3.6M illegal aliens left the US. That’s a far cry from Obama who changed laws to hand out work permits to illegal aliens to take US workers’ jobs. Why do you side with illegal aliens instead of US workers?

      • Cougar Age

        I don’t think it should be illegal to come here anymore than I think marijuana should be illegal. I will push for what I think is right instead of hating people who had the misfortune of being born somewhere else.

      • strayaway

        It is illegal. Of course you can lobby for open borders and advertise that everyone in the world who wants a job here and social benefits can and should come. That ought to drive wages down to third world rates and insure that we can no longer afford social benefits. I’m not sure how you plan to pay for that. I don’t hate people who come from someplace else. Congress is authorized to make immigration laws as it sees fit. Unlike you, I do support the rule of law and care about US workers more than foreign subjects. Why don’t you just give away all your money to poor foreigners instead of giving away your neighbors’s job?

  • Cemetery Girl

    She is refusing to do her job. She isn’t issuing marriage licenses to people, gay or straight. So what is she doing, sitting around telling people no while she’s reading a magazine or looking at Facebook? She’s using religion to avoid doing her job. She needs booted and allow someone that will actually do the job to do so.

  • DeeWW

    It’s fine to believe she doesn’t have a leg to stand on in her official capacity, but that doesn’t make lying about her appropriate. None of her marriages / divorces occurred after she became a Christian, so charges of hypocrisy and failing to live up her own standards are dishonest – they weren’t her standards then. Moreover, she isn’t being asked to sign her name to that behavior now so it isn’t even comparable. But, progressives lie, otherwise they couldn’t be “progressive”, could they?
    I can’t for the life of me understand why, if she’s so terrible / evil, etc. – all of these people want to have her signature on their certificates – how nutty is that?

    • Cemetery Girl

      She is refusing to do her job. Her job is to issue marriage licenses and she is refusing. Not just homosexuals. I don’t care how many times she was married or how many times she’s had affairs. She is refusing to do her job. Because she’s born again she gets to just refuse to do her job and that’s ok? You think other people can go to work, claim they won’t do their job because they’re Christian, and keep their position even though they refuse to do their job? Eventually it will get to a point that she’s removed, and then she’ll probably start a Fund Me. But that’s ok because she’s demonstrating conservative views. Anyone else, just do your job. Anyone else would just be lazy for thinking they should get paid for refusing to do their job.

      • DeeWW

        Fine – that’s your opinion. It’s not a response to the points I made.

      • Cemetery Girl

        Sorry, her refusing to issue any marriage licenses isn’t an opinion. She wasn’t. It’s an under reported fact. She has her beliefs, and that’s fine but if her beliefs interfere with her job then it is her that needs to reevaluate. I don’t hold her past against her. She’s had an affair and divorces; we all have things in our past. I seriously do not care about her past. I understand that as a born again Christian that has been washed from her, and I don’t have a problem with that or hold that against her. She is now holding a position where she is supposed to issue marriage licenses and she refuses to do so (gay or straight). If she is unwilling to issue one to a homosexual couple then step down. There is no shame in that. I’ve had quit a job before because changes were made and the new job description was unacceptable. There isn’t shame in that. She has been ordered to do her job and she has refused; what part of that is a lie or opinion? She sought election knowing she would have to issue straight couples marriage certificates licenses and she won’t even do that! What is the lie or opinion?

      • Cougar Age

        Let me first of all SLAM being “born again christian.” Your past atrocities will always matter, hence they’re being brought up now since she tried to pass herself off as the example of a christian. Accepting that BS makes your religion that much more of a joke. You are PROVING christianity is nothing.

        The only downside is, you’ll never know how wrong you are. When you die you cease to exist. Period.

    • noah vail

      they are trying to get a license in the same county that they LIVE in and PAY TAXES in…plain and simple

      • DeeWW

        Okay, if there’s something sacred about that particular government building and that particular government bureaucrat, I guess that argument makes sense, since they don’t issue county licenses. They also don’t keep the taxes they collect in the clerk’s office – they are state taxes that go to the state treasury.

      • Cougar Age

        Marriage has nothing to do with what is sacred, and nobody should have to drive to the next county over. She should do her job or resign. That way she can live according to her beliefs, NOT on the taxpayer’s dime.

    • Howard Sands

      and that this clerk developed standards when she became a Christian. Its not her lack of Christianity that made her do the things she did. Its her lack of character. She still has no character.
      I got news for you Dee: Many of us aren’t Christian, but we have standards, and they don’t include discrimination. She decided to become a Christian and now that she did, she places her own “values” on everyone else. That’s childish and arrogant.
      And illegal.

      • DeeWW

        That’s all fine and good, I suppose – but you aren’t responding in any shape, manner or form to the points I made and are trying to bait me into responding to secondary arguments – not going to happen.

      • Howard Sands

        I must be missing something. I directly responded to what you said. And I have no intention of baiting you into anything. I don’t get what you consider to be secondary arguments.
        In fact, everything I said has to do with this article. If I’m wrong, pleae indicate how.
        Also, her past IS NOT erased because she became a Christian. How convenient it would be if it was.

      • Cougar Age

        Well stated.

      • Cougar Age

        You’ve failed to make any points. They’d have failed in court too, FYI.

    • Cougar Age

      Actually you can’t tell others how they can or cannot judge her actions and sincerity. You can try but you won’t win. Maybe there is a thrill in forcing a hater to serve the gay public…just because you don’t understand it, doesn’t mean their reasoning isn’t sound. Apparently an unsound mind is needed to support Kim D.

    • Derek Mounce

      how exactly is calling her a hypocrite being dishonest? did she divorce her 2nd/4th husband after she supposedly turned to God? NO so she is still living as an adulteress which does make her a hypocrite
      Hypocrites always say 1 can’t be gay and Christian well if that is the case u can’t be Christian and still live as an adulteress furthermore the bible says the government was put in place by God and to deny the govt is to deny God which she is obviously doing so its honest to say she is a hypocrite

  • i wonder how she would have felt if a Catholic clerk refused to give her a second, third and fourth marriage license? Citing religious beliefs.

    • JamieHaman

      Or how she would feel if a Catholic judge decided she didn’t need her first divorce? Citing religious beliefs.

    • Itsthewater

      Go to one that is not Catholic, would be my next move.

  • Charles Glasser

    funny how this story doesn;t mention she’s a DEMOCRAT who was elected on DEMOCRATIC ticket…

    • 1968_Camaro

      She may be a Democrat, but does not reflect the values of today’s Democratic Party. Her values are more like those of the current Republican Party. If I was living there, and a liberal Republican who supported gay rights ran against her for that position, even though I am a Democrat, and very liberal, I would vote for that candidate instead of her. I do not share her conservative “values”. it is true that today’s Republicans are getting more and more reactionary, and it’s been many years since I’ve had a choice between a liberal Republican and a conservative Democrat at the ballot box. She’s definitely in the minority of today’s Democratic Party.

    • Howard Sands

      Not sure what your point is. Either you agree with the clerk and you think its a GOOD thing that she’s a Democrat.
      Or you disagree with her and you’re blaming her actions on her being a Democrat.
      She is like a Civil War era Democrat. They were the Conservatives. Today its Republicans that primarily act like her.
      Which party are you affiliated with?

  • Phaenius

    WOW there REALLY ARE people in America that have no clue, especially the author of this article. Could you even understand WHY Mrs. Davis refuses to condone sin involved with the marriage between homosexual sinning people? You remember the divorces you mentioned? You are so ignorant of what is righteous that you do not know that there was an event BETWEEN the Divorces and her current stance. I will give you a hint. Jesus was accosted by a mob desiring to execute a woman supposedly caught in adultery, after Jesus was able to disperse the crowd, he told the sinning woman to GO AND SIN NO MORE. It so happens that this woman Davis BECAME A TRUE CHRISTIAN after the Divorces which she says she regrets along with her prior lifestyle. GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH was the attitude of one of the founders of our country, and LIBERTY is the freedom of the GREAT AMERICAN EXPERIMENT which is one of two possible subsets of raw freedom, Liberty and License. LIBERTY IS THE FREEDOM TO DO THAT WHICH IS RIGHT IN THE EYES OF GOD. Now consider that, get right with God and go and sin no more.

    • Howard Sands

      Blah blah blah I didn’t even read your whole rambling nonsense. I stopped after a few sentences.
      Not everyone in this country believes like you do.
      Its people like you who start wars. Religious fanatics who can’t think for themselves and instead go around thumping your bible.
      Save it for your flock. the rest of us don’t want to hear it.

      • Phaenius

        Well hello again Mr. Sands…seems like I met you before, are you following me? Sorry about your desire to remain ignorant of reality spiritual or physical, but since I am not replying to YOUR comment and might be somehow in Hell constrained to ask you by your leave, I can be here and elsewhere anytime I want until this country goes completely tyrannical and unsound. You already have a head start in not listening to me by your admission you failed to read all of my wisdom…well actually the wisdom of the founders in that I cannot plead or arrogate any original thought on this matter. I just found it out and organized it a bit.

      • Phaenius

        Well, I checked, I have to withdraw the question if you were following me. Your reply sounds so familiar, I thought it might be you again. Have a good day, without God in your life…if that is your confession, some bad days are coming.

      • Munnee Tawee

        It’s the ‘end of the world’ yet again……

      • Phaenius

        End of the World? That part is in the hands of God. There ARE no signs for us in the church age but that when Jesus suddenly calls for us to come up to Him after the dead folk of this church age are resurrected into their new bodies. Nobody knows the time of that whether year, date or hour. And when we DO come back down with Christ seven years later, those folk in the Mathew 24 “this generation” who actually DO see a sign from heaven denied the other “this generation of Jesus’ peerage, they will not know the DAY or hour. This is the time of the general resurrection of the dead of all types outside of the church age saints, but us coming back down with Jesus is OUR part of the general good resurrection where coming to EARTH in new bodies is significant and completes our portion of the resurrection sequence….

        Concerning our country and whether or not God continues to bless us IS OUR TRUE CONCERN. Christians hold no allegiance to just any government but that which is God ordained authorities having the caveat that rulers/magistrates ARE NOT A TERROR TO GOOD WORKS. When they are a terror to good works passing laws inconvenient to righteousness and toward the persecution of us DOING GOOD or RIGHT, then whatever the law WE CONTINUE TO DO THE GOOD and not be afraid of their terror, as Peter tells us. It is at this time for sure “we ought to obey God rather than men.”

        We CAN be rigorous though in trying to return our rightful protections because once we have been made free and are righteous, in that we have been bought with a price and are slaves to God, even with our black brothers who had been made free, we USE our freedom we still retain to MAINTAIN our freedom.

        Our country was actually based on Biblical virtues and principles. There IS no other country in the world that will support them, so for the Christian, THIS is where we are backed into a corner and for us, and those innocent of the still unenlightened, we will fight for the Liberty or freedom to do that which is RIGHT IN THE EYES OF GOD. This is the individual Christian responsibility being in society, it is not a church thing for as a church we advance our faith by persuasion only but as citizens of the community our responsibility as the force of the community requires us to bear arms to protect all the innocent of our society whether of our faith or not in the maintaining of our Liberty. That was the philosophy behind the so called Black Robed Regiment King George so disdainfully called our founding fathers who were ministers.

        When there is no God in your life, and the righteous do not prevail, “there are some bad days coming.”

      • Munnee Tawee

        I’m a Buddhist …

      • Phaenius

        Are you an American? While you are a Buddhist, there may indeed be tenets to your belief system that is similar or can emulate some of the virtues found in the Bible. In that I think you do not have a panoply of Deities but just a philosophy with a RELIGION (obligation not a belief system as is the modern definition of Religion that differs from the one Bible definition in James 1) you may well appreciate the Liberty of Conscience that America was supposed to have. Though the only Buddhist country I know that is absolutely evil to those of other faiths and that is the old BURMA, murdering and disposing the Chin that we in America are absorbing, even in my hometown of Midland in Texas and even a person painting my house, were you not from Myanmar, I could feel more comfortable with you than with having Muslims in our country. Also I may understand a bit your statement concerning “end of the world” when you might not even HAVE a real end of the world in that you believe in reincarnation etc.

    • Cougar Age

      The one with no clue appears to be you. I cannot understand why Kim Davis has the mistaken impression that she can use her religion in a governmental capacity, or why you can see eye to eye with her. I don’t believe in mythical stories, and I don’t care what biblical sins she has committed, I only care that she stop interfering with the rights of others to marry. She works for the SECULAR GOVERNMENT not her church. I don’t appreciate you turning this into a preaching session either. There is no rational reason for me to believe as the hateful christians like Kim Davis do. At least when I hate it’s in my own name. They take their crap to a whole new level by hating in their fake god’s name.

  • duckfaceantonacio

    This would all be a real hoot but for two things. Yes of course you can’t make this kind of thing up. “What an idiot, OMG, the bigoted Christians are at it again, etc. etc.” But think about the children. That the media is taunting Kim with her own twins, who are probably grown real people now. If they are experiencing all sorts of terrible emotions and confusing thoughts because of this, I hope they have access to mental health resources that are not religiously affiliated. Additionally, shaming and second class/other than treatment is commonplace in the lives of lgbt children. Some are hearing multiple messages day in and day out about how much God hates them for being who they are. People like Kim Davis and others with an international platform crying for Religious Freedom don’t realize that they are inflicting permanent psychological damage on many innocent and harmless people, especially teenagers. How is it possible that once you start believing in a higher power, you become only willing to place emphasis on imaginary things that may happen to you after death? Why not make life on Earth your priority? Why do people love religion, yet refuse to be kind to their neighbors?

    • Howard Sands

      Very good points.

    • Cougar Age

      When you act holier than thou, like the bible leads your life, expect criticism on things like having a kid out of wedlock. I personally don’t care if you’re married when you have a kid, but if you’re going to use your religion to deny rights to others, expect your own crimes against your own religion to be brought up. It’s unreasonable to expect otherwise. I don’t feel sorry for her or her twins. It’s likely they are just as bigoted as she is.

  • Troyanna Castille

    She’s not a disgrace she right about her beliefs. These people either suck it up or go to Hell. These so called people who think their in love are a disgrace that’s not love that’s lust love. The evil kind. They can go to hell and let the devil deal with them. They will burn for their dirty nasty self.

    • Munnee Tawee

      “They will burn for their dirty nasty self”. How do you know that ?

    • Cougar Age

      Thank goodness I’m not like you and Kim Davis. That whole comment made me want to puke. WBC type christianity should be mocked and denigrated as much as possible.

  • Love Teresa
    • Cougar Age

      Only if they pass a constitutional amendment. You know it will fail so you’re crying instead.

  • ansonia

    Allen Clifton, about your claim that Kim Davis doesn’t have a legal leg on which to stand, evidently that’s her point exactly. I hear her question was “under what law am I authorized to issue homosexual couples a marriage license?”
    Do judges make laws ?
    As for all the vicious talk about the times Kim Davis was married before she converted to Christianity–and yes, those marriages were made before her conversion– that’s not important to me for this reason : It has nothing to do with her question “under what law am I authorized to issue homosexual couples a marriage license?”.
    Besides, there was a woman at a well, a Samaritan, I think, who had an even greater number of X husbands (John 4: 1-40).

    • Terrence Ganten

      You obviously missed the big announcement that gay marriage is now legal.

  • Diana Michelle

    Okay… This Allen Clifton is an idiot with a keyboard. He spreads gossip that is intended to pull people away from fact. Where is the proof that this woman was married 4 times? And if she was, who knows the reasons? Was she abused, cheated on, or widowed? Where is the DNA proving whose children she was carrying? As Hilary says “what does it matter”? As Christians we are forgiven for our past sins. She is saying she doesn’t want her name listed on a document that is ungodly. That is her right, even as a government employee. And… The Supreme Court does not make laws. There is no law stating that she has to give marriage licenses to same sex couples. All you people who sit back and judge someone for their stance and criticize their belief are the real haters of this world. I can’t wait until the vail that is covering your eyes and blinding you to the truth of our Lord, is lifted. Oh what a glorious day that will be. It will be a day of a lot of “I told you so’s”. Look around you! Where is your common sence and discernment? Mr. Clifton, I strongly urge you to know Jesus. The time is getting close. We have been taught to love the person, hate the sin. If you love the sin, you cannot repent and ask for forgiveness. You must sin no more…. Wow people.. Read the comments here, so full of hate for this woman. Repent.

  • E.A. Blair

    Not only that but husband #4 is the same as husband #2.

  • Pat Hale

    I suspect Kim Davis will be a hypocrite as long as she keeps eating cheeseburgers. https://613test.com/2016/07/11/god-hates-cheeseburgers/