Mike Huckabee Says American Christians Are Under Attack From Gays and ISIS

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Mike Huckabee had better jump into GOP clown car before Gov. Bobby Jindal does, or he won’t be able to capture the votes of the far-right evangelical Christians who will play a pivotal role in deciding the early Republican primaries in 2016.


The former governor of Arkansas hasn’t formally announced his 2016 candidacy for a Fox News contributor spot the Republican nomination, but he’s certainly been ramping up the rhetoric as if he does intend on eventually tossing his hat into the ring.

Now Mike Huckabee is back with claims that Christians are under attack around the world, and that ISIS will be attacking them here in the United States some time in the near future.

In the same conference call today in which he claimed that gay marriage will outlaw religious freedom, Mike Huckabee suggested that the supposed threat to religious freedom posed by the gay rights movement is part of a broader attack on the rights of Christians, including anti-Christian violence.

When a pastor on the call, which was organized by the Family Research Council, asked Huckabee if the U.S. is facing a two-pronged threat of ISIS terrorist attacks and the “equally intense assault on marriage as defined by God,” Huckabee replied that the caller was “exactly right.”

“We’re seeing, certainly at the national level, internally this battle on marriage, but globally what we’re seeing is that there is an assault on the Christian faith in general,” Huckabee said, before warning that ISIS will soon “physically assault” Christians in America. (Source)

You could try to write this off as more hyperbole from Mike Huckabee, but the myth of Christians being persecuted in this country is a theme that religious conservatives have been playing up for quite some time now. Huckabee isn’t the only one fanning the flames of perceived religious persecution, but he’s certainly beating the drums louder than probably any other potential candidate on the right – except perhaps for Bobby Jindal.


One of the big talking points for candidates aiming for the far-right part of the GOP base is that religious freedom in the United States is under attack. This has played especially well to religious conservatives in states like Arkansas, Indiana, and now Louisiana with legislation that further promotes the idea that somehow the freedom of religion is being threatened. Pretending that religious freedoms are under attack or claiming to be persecuted by non-Christians and others who don’t share the same beliefs as you is a great way to promote your political career – or make a whole lot of money fast, as the owners of Memories Pizza in Indiana recently found out.

In fact, religious conservatives have been pushing laws that discriminate against the LGBT community and anyone else they don’t like, all while claiming their beliefs are under attack. The hypocrisy of this is completely ignored by politicians like Mike Huckabee or Bobby Jindal who use this false narrative to further their book sales and/or political careers.

Freedom of religion is alive and well in the United States, and the fact that churches aren’t being taxed despite their involvement in politics, or that Christians aren’t being persecuted or killed like they are in some Muslim countries, is proof of that.



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  • buricco

    I’d like to see how they think Daesh is going to persecute Americans on American soil. Through Mexico? Puh-leeze, they’re not likely to cross the Prime Meridian anytime soon, let alone the Mexican border.

    • Cemetery Girl

      My understanding of how ISIS is going to kill everyone you’ve ever met, ISIS members are sent to the U.S. from the Middle East legally. The belief is that ISIS is just sending over bunches of members to act like people looking to study or work or just visit people they know, and then at whatever time they’re supposed to do their attacks. It is the reasoning behind claims that anyone from the Middle East shouldn’t be allowed in the US. It is very much like the argument against people coming to the U.S. from Africa except substitute “ISIS” for “Ebola”

      • Randy Nichols

        I really am not worried about ISIS, they would go after you people first anyway if they ever gained a foothold in this country since what they hate about America is pretty much what you stand for. The right has enough guns to defend ourselves from them, so really other than politicians giving it lip service I can assure the main stream conservative walking around has not fear of them.

      • Marilyn Olsen Scheffler

        Yeh, the right has guns alright! And they love worrying about some imaginary people coming after them! All we hear from the “good ol’ boys” in Texas is “come and get ’em” as if someone was going door to door for them to turn in their guns! I hate that my grandkids have to grow up in a society where having a gun and talking tough is the norm!

      • Randy Nichols

        LOL..you know the left would love to implement more gun controls, but have been struck down by courts many times, since it is a CONSTITUTIONAL right. You apparently want your grand kids to grow up spineless gobs of mush who will have to depend on us uncivilized gun owners to protect them. No one comes out of schools with any idea of recent history, so you sure are not aware of the fate of many ancient civilizations who thought themselves so civilized. You think you are so enlightened… well bless your heart… how do you get enlightened and not know history, understand economics, civics, or ever been trained in critical thinking or understand basic research. Indoctrination is not enlightenment.

  • Brewblaz

    According to Huckabee, Christians are attacked by EVERYBODY, even the aborigines from Australia….doesn’t he ever stop!

    • Randy Nichols

      News flash, Huckabee is not a representative of Conservatives. No Conservatives view him as anyone that we would take serious. He is a centrist and is only trying to pander. He has no chance in hell of getting nomination, so wasting energy on him is a waste or your time.

      • Gary Menten

        Sorry dude, but I’m a centrist and Huckabee is nothing like a centrist. If he were, he wouldn’t be in the GOP. If he were a centrist, he could actually run as a Democrat and stand a better chance of getting elected. As it stands, he has no chance of getting elected at all.

        Does he believe his own bullshit? Who knows? So why bother arguing with him? Because some people take his bullshit seriously and that’s a danger.

      • Randy Nichols

        Democrat and centrist LOL you make a joke. The democrat party does not allow centrist anymore. I live in conservative state, where as recent as 30 years ago most democrats were centrist with quite a few even conservative, but now even all the democrats here are hard left. That is why they do not control any part of the government here after having domination of everything up to 2000.
        Huckabee does not have a chance to get elected, being Christian will keep the Republican establishment apparatus from backing him, and he is not conservative on fiscal or foreign policy or borders. So he is professed Christian with centrist views. Which going against democrats means he would cave on everything.
        Now name the great moderates of history.. there has been great Liberals, and there have been great conservatives… but being moderate or centrist does not lend itself to greatness, can’t get much done sitting on the fence.

      • Gary Menten

        You are a poor, brainwashed tool.

      • Randy Nichols

        Are you familiar with the term useful Idiot…That would be you sir. Actually applies to many here since most don’t understand the propaganda you repeat. I once thought I was liberal, and then centrist.. .then I began to use logic, got an education, learned to think critically, and became a conservative because symbolism over substance from the left just doesn’t make sense. Being whiny and angry and being told who to hate just didn’t suit me. Also success or failure is from my actions, not anything the government does or doesn’t do. I prefer to take individual responsibility, and credit. So I am not brainwashed.. to the contrary I form my own opinions from all the facts that I investigate myself and not what I am told to say. I don’t repeat someone else’s rhetoric.

      • Gary Menten

        Better a useful idiot then, then a completely useless one such as yourself sir.

      • Randy Nichols

        Gee what a powerful comeback. I am so underwhelmed…LOL I was at least able to breakdown for you why you are a useful idiot. Do you have a clue why you believe anything? You called me useless idiot and you can’t even articulate why.

      • Gary Menten

        Yawn

      • Randy Nichols

        Yeah obviously any kind of thought is beyond you… kind of a toad you are.

      • Gary Menten

        Boring

  • I-RIGHT-I

    Well, one thing about old Huck, he’s no homophobe. I’m not afraid of them either.
    WE MUST STOP ELECTING HOMOPHOBES TO OFFICE.

    • Cemetery Girl

      Well, stop electing homophobic people is right…

      • I-RIGHT-I

        You’re my kinda gurkl!!! gurkle?
        The homosexual mafia have enough victims. I say we go after their ruined behinds with every law and every trick in the book to destroy them and put them in prison where there really want to be anyway.

      • Cemetery Girl

        The homosexual mafia is no more real than Amish Mafia. Although if it did exist it would be fab-u-lous! I doubt I’m your kinda gurkl (whatever that may be) and I encourage you to look up homophobic.

      • I-RIGHT-I

        It’s as real as the nose on your face and their victims have been all over the news for years.
        I’ve changed the definition to make it actually mean something.

    • Randy Nichols

      You guys have all the lower courts, the executive administration and presidency, the main stream media, and all the bureaucracies, and the Republican leadership in congress, so you are the establishment. Who really wins white house is irrelevant to me, they won’t be able to do anything anyway… what happens locally is more important and we still control most states.

      • I-RIGHT-I

        The swoosh you heard was my comment blowing by you like you’re standing still. Wake the f up.

      • Randy Nichols

        Any swoosh I might have heard was the hot air blowing from your pie hole. You might try getting a clue, life is so much easier when you have one.

      • I-RIGHT-I

        I have heard it’s embarrassing when you don’t really get why people are laughing at you. Pay attention Randy.

      • Randy Nichols

        LOL… do you not get why I even come to this forum? I have no illusion of changing anyone’s mind here. Forward Progressive is far left fringe and mind numbed robots that come to the forum are the most indoctrinated leftist I can find. There are forums out there where actually debate and discussion of issues takes place with people who have open minds. Coming here is best place to find out what talking points, false accusations and other buzz words that the indoctrinated will be using. You guys are very predictable.

      • I-RIGHT-I

        I not one of those guys dummy. Try and keep up.

      • Randy Nichols

        I have several conversations going here, and my first response to you was actually meant for another comment. But you still are showing yourself to be a douche bag mr swoosh man.

      • I-RIGHT-I

        I never said I was a nice guy but Progressive is as low as you can name a man. See you later

      • Randy Nichols

        Well, we do agree about progressives.

      • I-RIGHT-I

        We’re OK. The thread set up around here is awful it’s too hard to track.

  • TrannyMagic

    gays attacking christians or christians attacking gays? and of course gays have to be mentioned in an article with ISIS. I don’t know how much more I can laugh and flatulate at the same time.

    • Guest

      R R R!

    • Diana Phoenix

      ‘Let’s all get drunk and get naked, and fall in a pile on the floor.’
      Old song. I bet that would fix us!

  • Gary Menten

    Such bullshit. Really…gays constitute maybe 2 or 3% of the population. One would think that if Christians were under the sort of attack that Huckleberry Mike pretends exists, the 97% of the population who aren’t gay would strike back and swat out the gay menace. Strangely, that hasn’t happened. Why not? Could it be that most of the 97% of us who aren’t gay no longer feel threatened by gay people having the same rights as we do and think it’s high time we should simply accept them for who they are and treat them fairly and equitably?

    • Cemetery Girl

      I have been hearing the complaint that people saying they won’t be customers at a business that announces that it won’t serve homosexuals (or whoever else they feel like and site religion as the reason) is discrimination. They fail to realize that in general people just don’t go to business when they don’t like how it’s run or its policies. Other than the DMV, we don’t force people to go to a business if they don’t like how the business treats consumers.

      • Gary Menten

        That’s exactly right. You don’t have be gay to not want to do business with a company that discriminates against them any more than you don’t have to have to be a woman to support a woman’s right to chose.

        Furthermore, as far as I’m concerned, the moment you open up a business; a store, a restaurant, a bowling alley, you have to conform yourself to the state and federal laws concerning that sort of enterprise and if that conflicts with your particular interpretation of your religion, that’s just tough shit shit for you.

      • Randy Nichols

        I live in a very conservative state and see gay couples in lots places and no one even gives it a thought. Not once in business have I seen anyone run out or treated any different than any other customer. Unless you are asked to participate in one of their functions no one even cares, money is money. But if someone does not want to do business for anyone for any reason it is easy enough to do in passive way.. just over price your service, it is done on custom work or service every day for many reasons.. maybe customer comes across as difficult to please, so you price yourself out of the market.

      • Randy Nichols

        Any government service does not depend on customer satisfaction to stay in business. Most you advocate more government involvement in everything. Gays do not constitute a large enough demographic to concern most business, except in certain locations where they have settled more heavily. But also most business does not have a clue of the sexual habits of their customers so I really don’t know how wide spread discrimination would even be possible. It’s not like gays are a distinct gender, race, or ethnicity, race is self evident when you walk in a business, how you choose to have sex is not.

      • Cemetery Girl

        Being against discrimination doesn’t mean additional involvement, sexuality was already included in anti-discrimination law. And what do mean about homosexuals settling in some areas? Homosexuals, just like any other group, live all across the country. If someone is homosexual should they be expected to uproot themselves from friends, family to be treated like other people. And if homosexuals are not a large enough demographic for business to be bothered with concidering them when creating their business policies then perhaps some businesses should stop bothering to make policies to discriminate against homosexuals.

      • Randy Nichols

        Only in your warped mind did you get that I suggested that homosexuals should be located to any particular place. They do gravitate to certain areas for whatever reason, but they can also be anywhere. You purposely missed the whole point.. or I will give you the benefit the doubt that you did on purpose. Most people do not give a rats hind end that someone is gay, my sister in law is and we get along fine. She does not discuss her sexual habits, just like I don’t discuss mine. We don’t discuss politics much and avoid this topic, but she is really fiscally conservative so she has a lot of conflicts with dem party, and actually cares about issues other than gay issues, since in reality it is not really an issue. Business can proclaim homosexual friendly as marketing tool, and homosexuals are free to not give their business to a business that supports Christian or conservative causes. Just like green marketing is big money maker I am sure gay marketing will be, if they feel it is a large enough demographic. But no one is promoting discriminating against something that most people would not even know about in a business environment.

    • Randy Nichols

      I know you guys have been indoctrinated about how mean Christians are..but you are right, we are a sizable part of the population, a lot more so than gays, or far left fringe dwellers that reside on the Forward Progressive forums. The simple truth is Christians really let thing slide for most part, and are really too nice. If they were a fraction of hateful, or activist as you guys, you would be overwhelmed. Most Christians see politics as secular and don’t even involve themselves in it and worry just about living their life as their conscience dictates. You are though doing a pretty good job of poking the sleeping dog.. also there is a lot of people other than Christians that use logic and not emotion,who see social issues and economic issues from a Conservative standpoint.

      • Creeayshun Sighuntist

        Poor Randy, still starved for attention…..what a sad existence you lead.

      • Randy Nichols

        Well, look it is crayon poking his head out from his grass hut. how are you doing.

      • Gary Menten

        1. Who do you mean by “you guys?”

        2. You know nothing and you are demonstrating it. No-one who is against discrimination has been “indoctrinated” to believe anything. It is clearly you that has been indoctrinated to believe everything you are told. The naiveté in your statements, your obvious resentment of demonstrate that you sir. are the perfect example of the sort of chump that makes the perfect sucker for every charlatan with a cross who comes along. Neither Christianity nor Christians are under attack; it the Constitution and it’s separation of Church and state that are under threat.

        3. There is nothing Christian about hating gays. (or anyone else) ergo “Christians” discriminate against anyone are not true Christians.

      • Randy Nichols

        You guys= majority on this forum
        Indoctrination = seeing discrimination where it doesn’t exist. No one is ever able to demonstrate an example of discrimination, it is only an attempt to define Christians and keep them on defensive. You are they chump in that you don’t even realize the tactic, you are just a worker bee. Your very rant demonstrates anti Christian bigotry, and I don’t want the state involved in religion at all. Most Christians don’t even involve themselves in politics, and not all gays are left wing activist. So again we are back to YOU GUYS the leftist fringe.
        Your 3rd point… again you make unsupported statement, as attempt to apply definition to a group you are bigoted against. I don’t hate gays, how could I, they are indistinguishable since the are not a gender, race or ethnicity. I do believe homosexuality is a sin, just like I believe theft is a sin. I would assume you believe theft is wrong, but you would also say you do not hate thieves. So there is the simplified explanation of how we can separate the sin from the person. You won’t get it, because you don’t want to get it and you are indoctrinated to stick to the narrative no matter what.. I have no illusion of changing anyone’s mind here. I am strictly here to see what narrative you are using.

      • Gary Menten

        1. The only indoctrination going on here is one you are getting from charlatans like Huckabee.

        2. I have not ranted and I have nothing whatsoever against Christians (or Muslims or Jews or Buddhists so long as they don’t try to try to foist their religions down the throats everyone else by passing or trying to pass unconstitutional laws. In America, the group that most tries to do this are “conservative” Christians. If Jews or Muslims were doing it, I’d have as big a problem with them as I do with people like Huckabee and yourself. But they aren’t and so that’s that.

        3. You draw false parallels between homosexuality and theft. Theft is a crime and doesn’t require religion or religious belief to make it a crime. However believing that homosexuality is a sin requires also that you prescribe to a religion, which like most other religions, is not based on anything that can be demonstrated through valid scientific testing.

      • Randy Nichols

        1. I am not a Huckabee supporter, and don’t even listen to him, so hardly could be indoctrinated by him. Not indoctrinated by anyone actually. I was liberal then got an education, learned to think critically and applied logic and being a liberal just does not make sense. I don’t like symbolism over substance and just being whiny, angry and hateful didn’t suit me.
        2. What laws have any religious group tried to pass down your throat? Conservatives participate in the political process, and many also happen to be Christians, so of course their Christian views shape some of their political positions on social issues., and are not all in agreement on those. But on issues like sound economic principles, foreign relations that protect our interest, protecting and securing our borders are separate are not religious issues. Many Christians disagree on those issues. There has been no laws put forth in name of religion that has force anything on you. Some have been put forth to prevent you from forcing religions to do things.
        3. Ok,…replace homosexuality with pedophilia, bestiality, polygamy etc… homosexuality was once just as illegal as those. I don’t hate those that practice those other forms of sexuality either, I just don’t approve of their actions, which I would assume you don’t either but I don’t know. So in your logic, if any of those became legal, then they can no longer be considered as sin? Really to accept your logic and premise I could easily make an argument why those are all acceptable behaviors. Each carries a born desire, and like with all sexual behaviors as long as all parties are consenting, then whose business is it. I personally don’t care if any or all of the mentioned are practiced, and add in prostitution, incest or any other sexual activity. As long as I don’t have to participate you can do whatever you want. Most people that participate in those other activities define themselves by them, and like gays, they are not identifiable as distinct race, gender or ethnicity, so I would serve all of them in my business. But I would not participate in their activities, and out of those only homosexuals are trying to force others to go against their beliefs to participate.

      • Gary Menten

        You’re logic is so completely flawed it’s laughable. When anyone passes laws that fail to serve a clear and completely secular purpose, they they are sticking their religious beliefs down everyone else’s throats, such as state statutes that try to make it harder and harder for women to get abortions, they are doing just that. You really need to read more of the Supreme Court’s rulings on the separation of Church and state.

        If you aren’t listening to Huckabee because you think he’s a false conservative, then chances are that you’re getting your ideas from someone even crazier.

        Further, you once again make false parallels between homosexuality and polygamy or pedophilia. There are perfectly valid and completely secular reasons to outlaw the both, though some religions allow the former. (Are they all sinners too? Just curious) There are no valid secular reasons to outlaw sodomy. I don’t think it’s possible to outlaw homosexuality any more than it’s possible to outlaw belief in aliens.

        I don’t concern myself with sin, nor does the law. I concern myself with what is justly legal, unjustly legal, justly illegal and unjustly illegal, none of which requires a belief in a deity.

      • Randy Nichols

        You first paragraph is laughable. You are trying so hard to impress me with your intellect yet you repeat almost verbatim the line that everyone else does without explaining one example of how the laws that have been passed or proposed would in anyway be discriminatory to anyone and gays in particular. Sir those platitudes if offered in court as argument would be laughed out of the courtroom.

        Second paragraph.. you yet again make a general statement without explaining yourself. For example you make statement that there are secular arguments for polygamy to be against the law. Why is that? I can’t think of one reason why adults that want to live that lifestyle should not be able to in a secular sense. As person who resides in a dual world of my spiritual beliefs and the world that is secular, I live my spiritual life, but my politics is secular. I also have no problem with prostitution as far as secular beliefs go, I would not participate, but see no reason two consenting adults want to cut to the chase and do what couples do. I also am firm believer in second amendment rights to bear arms, with no Christian influence, that is purely secular. Really you would probably find my secular side more libertarian, and also more harsh against things that are against nature and against individual responsibility, and accountability. Really being a Christian is what makes me nice to people, I really have little patience for ignorance and people that can not articulate what they claim to believe.

      • Gary Menten

        double yawn.

      • Grady McDonald

        What constitutes a natural law? What gives men laws?

        As for ONE EASY LAW which has only a basis in religious and/”family values” is the ban on marriage equality amongst various states which could be identified by just how conservative they are.

        The fact you equated homosexuality to pedophilia and ten said you had no problem with that or other non-traditional sexual adventures whereby “consensual” is a JOKE,

      • FD Brian

        The real problem I have with Christians is about the same as i have with Muslims. The good Christians don’t stand up against the stupid bigoted ones.

      • Randy Nichols

        Yeah those bad Christians are really out there cutting of heads.. those evil Amish I tell you…. Get real. There is no comparison to Muslims.

        You know that real problem I have with Liberals/Progressives is that there are some that really have a good heart and feel they are trying to help, but they don’t stand up to the bad leftist that want to erode freedoms and that attack those of religious faith and ridicule them. The bad leftist that are always yelling and angry and full of hate.. that are bigoted against anyone that does not have the same views at them..

      • FD Brian

        what freedoms would those be randal? I love how the conservatives always think, the liberals want to take away our freedom, please be specific when you address me next time or I will be required to throw the smack down on you. And let’s be honest, there’s a shit load of the same shit on the right you accuse the left of having. so get your shit straight the next time you feel the need to reply to me. Or simply ignore this and you’ll sleep better at night.

      • Randy Nichols

        Uh.. that would be Randall with two L’s… I sleep fine than you, and do you always feel the need to use profanity when you are frustrated? Smack down? Really, that could be entertaining watching you try. Uh skippy I used an example in my statement.. unlike yourself. But just to tease you a tad… lets start a list. There is the taking away rights of a person NOT to participate in an activity that they find offensive. There is the attempts to limit the right to bear arms, the freedom to purchase healthcare in a free and open market, the freedom to make decisions regarding underage daughters birth control, freedom to work your property they way you want without someone telling you that you can’t because it would possible harm a minnow, freedom to work in a shop without joining a union, freedom to keep what I earn and I decide how to spend it…Those are just a few and the list goes on and on. So bring on the Smack little man.

      • FD Brian

        that’s better you whiny little piss ant. See how effective you can be when you don’t generalize like a complete douche bag. And while you’re on the subject of taking away rights, how about the right to an abortion, the right to drink clean water, breath clean air, the right to fight for a fair wage, shit man, even the right to freaking vote, all done by the right. so get off your high horse. And BTW, health care can be purchased in an open market or are you so damn stupid to not realize it? And when you are open to the public you are OPEN to the public and you are not allowed to discriminate against whom you will serve, try denying serving blacks in a restaurant. Stop echoing Fox or what ever nut ball you listen to and think for yourself. And another thing, we already limit the right to bear arms, dip shit, we’re just arguing about where to draw the line in the sand, so get off that one. Another thing, people who work in “right to work” states, make less money. So move your ignorant ass to one of those states. Not sure what wrongs with your daughter, but blame the left if it helps. And let’s go back to “freedom to keep what I earn”, WTF is that supposed to mean? you don’t want to help pay for an education system, roads, defense, law enforcement, fire protection, i could go on, but taxes are part of that. My suggestion would be to educate yourself about the failings of supply side economics, how unions helped create the middle class and yes, how wealth redistribution (or public programs) actually do help improve our country as a society and ECONOMICALLY. Plenty of books out there or you could use your friend “Google”. God bless, and if you don’t like paying taxes, give more money to your church, it’s tax deductible.

      • Randy Nichols

        LOL.. insurance is not open market.. insurance companies are not allowed to create competition by crossing state lines. You can research that, I don’t feel like typing the explanation. I also know that I lost coverage because of Obama care because they company I worked for would had to pay fees since it was supposedly a luxury plan..which it was pretty big stretch to call it as such.

        No CITIZEN is denied the right to vote, and no one has proposed anything that would deny that right. Everyone is for clean water, air so on and so forth, but to use is as issue to grow government and bureaucracies effects our freedoms. No 3 inch fish or a fly, or a mouse should take precedence over a person using their land they way they see fit.
        Dude, the 60s was a generation ago.. and I lived during them, so times, they have a changed. No one is denying anyone service because of color of their skin.. if you want to go there, it was democrats that fought civil rights, and their policies are still regressive and creates dependent class.. It was LBJ that when passing the civil rights act said ” we will have the nigger vote for 100 years”.
        The right to work states are currently performing the best economically… everything is relative, in non free states wages may be higher but costs are also higher, does not one any good if union jobs pay good and there is no jobs. A person should not be forced to join a Union.
        My daughter is grown and is a fine conservative citizen, married to a black man who is also a conservative. I was referring you toad to the left trying to give our daughters birth control, or make abortions available to them without parental consent.

        To you and most on this site, terms like Supply Side Economics, Trickle down etc.. .are just buzz words you repeat and have no idea even what they mean. I was economics major in college so I could school you on economic theory. Forced redistribution that the left advocates does not improve anyone’s position, all the money ends up back in same hands… you can not improve economy from bottom up you dip shit. It does take government action, but detail explanation would be lost on you.

        I do give to church and charity, which is documented fact that conservatives do a lot more than liberals. There are recent cases where government makes it difficult for those that want to feed the poor.. government wants monopoly on charity.

        TO KEEP WHAT I EARN, means that my labor is what provides my income, so I have a right to keep it. Everyone should pay their share, for services, since if I have a fire the same fire department comes to your house as mine. So there should be a flat rate, those that make more will of course pay more, but you should pay your share too…currently 50% of this country pays NO income taxes. To take from me just to redistribute and buy votes infringes on my freedom.

        Unions outgrew their original intent, and are only in it to feed their power, and are money hungry machines and do not care about long term health of their members or this country.

        Government program are self perpetuating. The have created a dependent class that has grown since implemented. Education is more indoctrination, and life skills are not taught to those that need them to gain independence from the government. They rely on the dependence to maintain a permanent voting block. If it was really designed to help it would encourage people to work and not cut off their benefits, and be a graduated assistance program to help people wean off the system… as it is, it is all or nothing.. they don’t want people to work their way off.

        I tried to keep this as brief and simple as possible for you… if you want I can get detailed and explain any of it to you that you would like to know more about. Or I challenge you to get off the rhetoric and go learn these things for your self. Oh by the way, I come here, and many other leftist sites, and right sites, and foreign sites for news and thoughts.. I watch very little fox or any broadcast media. It would appear you are pretty much stuck on CNN or MSNBC.. yeah those are really impartial LOL.

  • Creeayshun Sighuntist

    “I do think he has a different worldview and I think it’s in part molded out of a very different experience. Most of us grew up going to Boy Scout meetings, you know, our communities were filled with Rotary Clubs, not madrassas.”

    Crazy ass, Mike Huckabee should be in a straight jacket, but fits in nicely with today’s GOP.