Misandry Is Not Feminism

10176041_448455608631194_5121913195811274894_nMisandry, noun. Definition: dislike of, contempt for, or ingrained prejudice against men. Feminism, noun. Definition: the advocacy for women’s rights on the grounds of political, social, and economic equality to men. Notice the use of the word “prejudice” in relation to misandry, while feminism includes the word “advocacy.” These are two different things. If you interact with a man who is involved with the men’s rights movement, commonly referred to as Men’s Rights Activism, or MRA. you will be told that misandry and feminism are exactly the same. These men trumpet how much all women hate men, while at the same time, declaring their unmitigated hatred for all women. Because, to these men, all women are feminists, and therefore, misandrists.

Crashing into MRAs online is always a special treat. They share truly awe-inspiring memes, including one that sticks a Swastika into the circle portion of the gender symbol for female. Men who are part of the MRA movement are proven misogynists, and have been called out for this on numerous websites, by numerous people, both male and female. One of the best definitions of the MRA movement comes from Cracked.com:

Men’s what now? Is this a thing?

Yes. Men’s Rights Activism began as the natural response of American males to the growing threat of feminism, in much the same way that burning your house down is the natural response to the threat of ghosts. In both cases, a better solution would be to walk away and let a less emotionally fragile man deal with the situation.

Feminists, at least the vast majority of them, do not hate men. Of course, there are going to be ignorant and hateful people in any large group, and feminism is no different. We have our misandrists, and our TERFs (trans exclusionary radical feminists-truly horrible women), and we even have SCUM.

SCUM is a term coined by Valerie Solanas, a woman most famous for shooting Andy Warhol. She wrote “The SCUM Manifesto” in 1967, and some believe the term “SCUM” stands for Society for Cutting Up Men, but that acronym has been disputed. The book argues that men have ruined the world, women should overthrow society, and eliminate the male sex. To be honest, I’d never heard of SCUM until a supporter of MRA used it to generalize against all women.

No woman I personally know wants to get rid of men. We don’t want to overthrow the government; from what we’re seeing at the Bundy ranch, that’s primarily white, slightly pudgy, heavily armed men. And the people supporting Bundy are also primarily white men. Men haven’t ruined the world, people have. Some men wage wars, some men are aggressive, and some men love violence and bloodshed, but not all men. In fact, not even most. It’s just the ones who do get on television a lot more often than peaceful, loving, gentle men.

Feminists are not all misandrists, and I would point out that any woman who engages in misandry does not represent me or my beliefs. I honestly think most of my female friends would agree. TERFs do not represent me, or my friends, and I find their hateful attacks against transgender women obscene. And MRA supporters do not represent most men, as evidenced by my own husband’s utter disdain for their misogyny.

The one thing men in the MRA movement love to argue about is rape. They make up statistics, pretend a woman isn’t raped unless it’s at gunpoint, by a stranger, in an alley, and they claim that feminists completely ignore male rape victims. It’s all utter malarkey, but don’t ever try to challenge an MRA supporter, unless you have ibuprofen and a pillow into which you can scream.

Misandry is not feminism. The MRA movement is not pro-men, it’s virulently anti-woman. If it were pro-men, MRAs would work with groups like RAINN, an organization that helps both male and female survivors of sexual assault and incest. They would volunteer for The National Coalition Against Domestic Violence, which helps men and women who are in abusive relationships. Perhaps they could attend law school, and help men who may have experienced discrimination during a custody hearing.

Those are all real things that happen to men in America, and all over the world, every day. But because the message of the MRA movement is one of hate, ignorance, rape apology, violence, and misogyny, the actual problems men might be facing get lost. If the MRA movement truly wants to help men, the first thing they need to do is stop hating women.

Erin Nanasi

Erin Nanasi is the creator of The Bachmann Diaries: Satirical Excerpts from Michele Bachmann's Fictional Diary. She hates writing about herself in the third person. Erin enjoys reading, writing, and spending time with family. And wombats. Come visit Erin on on Facebook. She also can be found on Twitter at @WriterENanasi.

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  • John Clark

    Special thumbs up for mentioning TERFS. One in our state fought trans rights here for years. I get that men can lose much in a divorce, but the real cause is the exact opposite of feminism: it comes from “traditional” ideas about parenting roles. I just read a long Mother Jones piece on how poor men are stopped in every way by the system from being in their kids lives. Really, feminism is for men as much as for women. Some men just don’t get it though.

    • Bill Friedman

      “feminism is for men as much as for women.”
      If I weren’t in class I would stand and applaud.
      Feminism is about equality. A world where men and women are equal is better for EVERYONE. I mean nobody gains anything by enforcing a two class society, however everyone would gain massively if we could live as equals.
      Sadly, things like the Misandry Erin talks about here do quite the opposite of that, by polarizing both sides (dragging down the name of true, equality based, feminism which alienates men, and creates schisms within the feminist movement itself) it just makes things worse.

      • mzuridini

        The civil rights movement of the sixties was about freedom. Once the government co-opted the civil rights movement, freedom was replaced with equality. People can be inmates in a prison and be equal, but they are not free. Who would want to live in a society where everyone is equal, but not as free?
        Freedom is the goal. Freedom for everyone.

      • Dominic Blais

        Not when your freedom is my slavery

      • Foamy Darkale

        I’m sorry but on enough fem blogs out there are women saying that they don’t want men saying what feminism stands for, when if as you say it stands for equality then a man saying feminisim is all about equality then should be ok. but apparently some female authors out there disagree because the person is male. Sorry but that’s’ sexisim. Try not denying that there are male victims of both rape and female abusers if you actually want to get further with people. there’s so many people denying that women commit mas killings and yet i can find lots. some of them recently. If women feel they need a place to be safe then why must feminists constantly attack any place that tries to do the same for men? This is about as far from fair or equal as you can get.

      • Dominic Blais

        You can not have an equality group or movement with a gender preference. Feminism does and leads to drugging boys in school

      • *Guest*

        Source?

      • Dominic Blais

        ritalin you dumb cunt boys shouldnt sit still 14 hours a day

      • Guest’s the Name

        I generally disapprove of drugging anyone for any reason, but for those who eagerly respond with “you dumb cunt”, I would personally approve of whatever lethal mix was nearest by.

        Men take enough shit from society as it is, we don’t need garbage LIKE YOU making us look as bad as everyone says. We need to start proving misandists WRONG rather than proving them right.

    • mzuridini

      When have feminists ever fought for a man’s right to his own children? Never. Instead they pass laws, write books and anything else to make as easy as possible to kick a man out of the family.
      Over two thirds of gay married couples are women, so once again, it means more families without fathers. It’s sick. I’m not against gays getting married, but if you really believe in equality, heterosexual men have to have the same basic reproductive rights as anyone else or it’s not going to work.
      In the eighties, suicide rates for men went up, right along with the divorce rate. Some of those suicides were murder-suicides, so feminists focused on ‘violence against women.’
      What do women really want? Science says they want the exact same things as men – control over reproduction and resources.
      Feminists have been denying science for many decades. They’ve made many inroads in the education system. America is now thirtieth in science education. Nice going, girls.

      • John Clark

        Thank you! Your comments clearly show why we have to discuss this issue. I’m actually a radfem, so I will school the fence sitters on one part of your comment. First, because lots of people in same sex couples are not gay or lesbian, many children are in blended same sex families. Second, we had soccer moms whose donor daddy came to a lot of matches with his wife. He was donor dad for both of the girls and was in their lives. Third, if you really care and want more dads to be involved in their children’s lives, let’s fix the welfare & criminal justice systems so that they are able to be there.

      • mzuridini

        Thank you for your reply. Yes, there are all kinds of configurations for families these days, and that’s a beautiful thing, no doubt about it.

      • Battledonkey DO0M

        You definitely aren’t a radfem. You seem perfectly normal to me.

        The last time I talked to a radfem I literally said hello, and she threatened to pepperspray me because I was a rapist or some shit, even though I’ve never met her before.

        Your last point needs government attention, because both systems are indeed fucked up beyond all recognition at the moment

      • “The last time I talked to a radfem I literally said hello, and she threatened to pepperspray me because I was a rapist or some shit, even though I’ve never met her before.”

        Yeah. And the next morning there was a bloody hook stuck in the car door.

      • Guest’s the Name

        eternal LOLz at the visual you provided.

      • Dear God in Heaven, you are deluded.

      • *Guest*

        I really want to know why it is the job of Feminism to fight for “the rights of men” and not these MRAs that claim to do the very same thing. Could it be because they don’t actually give a shit about men and just like to go around insulting and threatening women and Feminism?

  • Christopher Salihe Payne

    Sooooo….in other words, they’re really no different from any of the other overblown, hateful, right-wing organizations that claim to fight for the “rights” of their respective causes but simply act as a vehicle for people’s fear, bigotry, and greed and have nothing to do with actual equality.

  • marckohler

    The problem is that men rul win the majority of societies of the world. These MRAs want Feminism to fail, and they have the world of men backing them. Feminism has been cast in crazy ways by the opposition, and that is good for thiose in power, and who plan to continue that power though their children and their hired hands. I think sometimes that the battle is over, and we only stand a chance to say that wqe tried during our lifetimes to make a difference, but the billions of dollars being raised against liberal ideas is massive, and we don;t have a MLK to lead us out of this morass.

    • mzuridini

      I have issues with feminism being preudo-scientific.

      Betty Friedan’s “The Femine Mystique” criticized Freud for concentrating too much on biology. To me, it sounds like she ‘s afraid science will put women under the microscope, exposing and minimizing the feminine mystique, but that’s not gonna happen because the gender dance we do is a part of who we are.

      Freud was wrong to think a woman’s sexuality was not her own, that it was relative to a man’s desire…

      But he was right about other things that modern brain science has confirmed.

      My only hope for MRA’s is that they discredit those specifically pseudo-scientific notions that make feminism misandrist.

      Maybe we don’t need MRA’s, maybe we need more women scientists. That would help!!!

  • LadyBligh

    This article is accurate, however it doesn’t change the fact that misandry often does exist under the guise of feminism (reading the comment sections on articles on Jezebel is proof of that).

    It’s certainly not the same thing, and there’s a lot of women who claim to be feminists that should know that, too.

    • Guest

      Misandrists tend to call themselves feminists. They will often try to claim that theirs is the only way to be a feminist, and that anyone who disagrees with them in any way is a rape apologist. They get quite nasty.

      • mzuridini

        Feminists use rape as a weapon to take rights away from men.
        Andrea Dworkin said all men are potential rapists. What does that mean? That only women are presumed innocent? That’s a feminism idea, and it’s wrong.
        I don’t mind women getting some special treatment because of what they go through as women. And I don’t like the idea of ever hitting woman. That’s not how you treat a lady.
        But, when you look at things on a larger scale, national or global, it’s better to have the same rules for everyone.
        Scale is very important. An ant can lift 12 times it’s own weight, but not a human. Some things which work on a small scale don’t work on a much larger one. A good mother is necessarily a good president.That’s why it’s so important to teach math and science so people learn critical thinking.

      • Guest’s the Name

        “Feminists use rape as a weapon to take rights away from men.” No, law enforcement uses rape to take away rights from rapists. Men and rapists are not always the same.

        “Andrea Dworkin said all men are potential rapists. What does that mean? That only women are presumed innocent?” No, it means absolutely nothing to the innocence of women, presumed or otherwise. If Dworkin said all bananas are fruit, does it mean that oranges aren’t fruit? Again, NO. One has nothing to do with the unrelated other thing.

        “That’s why it’s so important to teach math and science so people learn critical thinking.” Well… as someone who fails miserably at critical thinking, perhaps you ought to consider being taught some science and math. (But it won’t affect your critical thinking; the first two are not guaranteed to deliver you the third one.)

      • False. Misandrists actually tend to call themselves “Men’s Rights Activists” & “MGTOW”. Those people harbor not only anger and vitriol toward women, but also toward other men who happen to not toe the same line they set for themselves. They use awful, shaming misandric speech like “mangina”, “white knight”, “beta”, “phaggot”, or any other number of shaming, emasculating terms for men who do not “man up” enough for the misandrists.

        And yeah, feminists HATE the expression “man up”, not just because it is so misandrist against men, but it also implies that only men are capable of manning up, and that women just never can.

      • Nickolas Kruger

        False. Misandrists an CATEGORICALLY feminists.

      • Those are two diametrically opposed mindsets. Feminists do not hate men, it is those who populate the “manosphere” who despise men and want to see men fail. Feminists seek to abolish the hatred that men (and women) receive. MRAs, MGTOWs, and PUAs all fall back on calling “other” men names so as to appear better than them.
        https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/9d/42/93/9d429355ca3617ba6f1fdaab128e0552.png

      • Nickolas Kruger

        False again. Ever heard of Julie Bindle? The infamous radical feminist hero and transmisandrist? The bigot who would put all men “into some kind of a camp”? What about Mary “1/4 women are raped” Koss? The woman who kept rape penetrative? In Mary Koss’ own writing:

        Although consideration of male victims is within the scope of the legal statutes, it is important to restrict the term rape to instances where male victims were penetrated by offenders. It is inappropriate to consider as a rape victim a man who engages in unwanted sexual intercourse with a woman.
        Page 206, Detecting the Scope of Rape : A Review of Prevalence Research Methods

        Among men, the terms “sex” and “sexual relations” may activate schemas for situations where they penetrated women. Clarification is necessary to ensure that male respondents realize that the situations of interest are those in which they were penetrated forcibly and against their will by another person, and not situations where they felt pressure or coercion to have sexual relations with a woman partner.
        Page 208

        If men and boys are to be included, care must be taken to ensure that their data are accurate counterparts of rape prevalence among women. This means that men must be reporting instances where they experienced penetration of their own bodies (or attempts).
        Page 208

        TL;DR: She believes it to be “inappropriate to consider as a rape victim a man who engages in unwanted sexual intercourse with a woman”. How the hell can feminism be helpful at all to men? How?

      • Nickolas Kruger

        I’ll answer that for you: It can’t.

      • *Guest*

        Feminists hate terms like “man up” because it’s sexist and implies that there is a way for men and women to act, and that having emotions is akin to being female which is seen as being inferior.

    • GeekyOne

      Jezebel is so far removed from actual feminism its frightening. I attempted to follow them for a bit – then I had too much of their “jokes” posted as “articles” about women who were heavier (misogynistic jokes abounded from women about women just because they were heavier) , then there was an article about a trans woman and the comments there just sent me over the edge – so homophobic/transphobic – I wrote a nasty comment on how Jezebel was nothing more than a hate page, the “the girls” were no better than those who make those awful YouTube videos on racism and poor them for being white (anyone remember that? ugh!) and perhaps if Jezebel were truly interested in true feminism, they’d moderate their comments for that awful content and be more inclusive rather than divisive. I suspect that nothing I said was taken with any seriousness, nor has anything changed, given your comment about Jezebel. There truly needs to be a good site of true feminism to not only rival Jezebel but knock it on its hate-filled ass.

    • mzuridini

      Bigotry is based on ignorance and hate. Feminism is the only body of knowledge created by women, and you women should be ashamed of yourselves. Feminism is misandrist. No doubt about that. For example, here are some quotes from famous feminists.

      “I feel that ‘man-hating’ is an honourable and viable political act, that the oppressed have a right to class-hatred against the class that is oppressing them.” – Robin Morgan, Ms. Magazine Editor

      “To call a man an animal is to flatter him; he’s a machine, a walking dildo.” -– Valerie Solanas

      “I want to see a man beaten to a bloody pulp with a high-heel shoved in his mouth, like an apple in the mouth of a pig.” — Andrea Dworkin

      “Rape is nothing more or less than a conscious process of intimidation by which all men keep all women in a state of fear” — Susan Brownmiller
      “The more famous and powerful I get the more power I have to hurt men.” — Sharon Stone

      “In a patriarchal society, all heterosexual intercourse is rape because women, as a group, are not strong enough to give meaningful consent.” — Catherine MacKinnon

      “The proportion of men must be reduced to and maintained at approximately 10% of the human race.” — Sally Miller Gearhart

      “Men who are unjustly accused of rape can sometimes gain from the experience.” – Catherine Comins

      “All men are rapists and that’s all they are” — Marilyn French

      “Probably the only place where a man can feel really secure is in a maximum security prison, except for the imminent threat of release.” — Germaine Greer.

      • John Clark

        I oppose lesbian separatists/TERFS too. We can agree on that. But, you know, there are whole libraries of feminist perspectives which are about killing the social contruct of sexism. Sexism hurts everyone on this fragile little planet we have always lived on. If humans don’t kill sexism, she, our planet, won’t let us live here anymore. And time is running out for us to fix these problems with us.

      • mzuridini

        I don’t mean to trivialize in any way the suffering of women. They are most certainly victims of sexism. Men have been socially dominant to say the least, and we need women’s voices to be heard.. as long as they don’t go overboard and start blaming men for everything… let’s work it out.
        Thank you.

      • Feminists get this rap for hating men, blaming men nebulous things, but if you’d bother to attend a feminist rally or listen to feminist podcasts, men are rarely (if ever) mentioned, and when they are it is as allies or fellow victims of violent crime. I truly only hear feminists mention men while pointing out that men have just as many problems as women.

      • You couldn’t be more filled with nonsense if you tried.

      • Guest’s the Name

        To say being pro-woman is bigotry is akin to being pro-child is anti-adult, or to be pro-handicap rights is to be against able-bodied persons’ rights.

        If you want to see some ripe and wretched misandry, go to any manosphere site. They make men look like monsters.

  • sara

    Once, before I had ever heard of MRAs, made an innocent comment about the rights of men, referring specifically to their right to be hands on parents, or the primary caregiver in their families. Oh wow, did I open up a can of worms!

  • Cemetery Girl

    I had thought for the longest time that to be feminist you had to believe that every man was evil. That isn’t what it really is though. For some people, yes, and I feel sorry for them. Their lives must be sad. I am married, have several wonderful sons and a wonderful daughter. All I want is for to live in a world where she will be viewed equal to her brothers. She’s strong and smart too. The boys are adorable and loving too. I don’t consider that too much to ask.

  • mzuridini

    Men have done so much to make the world a better place. It is truly disturbing to read what you wrote. If you are so blind to the bigotry of feminism against men, perhaps you are irreparable. I hope not.
    If a cave women went out into the woods at night, and felt threatened, could she call 911? Of course not. Living in a high tech society has given women so many new freedoms.
    These days, women get more college degrees than men, but do they go into the sciences? The number one determining factor in a woman’s choice of grad school is whether or not there’s a math requirement. Women have been getting more degrees, but they haven’t picked up the slack in math and science. We have to import engineers from India.
    At the turn of the century, there was less war, less starvation and more education per capita around the world than ever before in history. Why do you think that is?
    There may be more young boys with special needs than girls, but there are also more boy geniuses than girl geniuses. If you can’t give credit where credit is due, (because you don’t like someone ‘s gender), you’re a bigot. When have feminists given men credit for anything?
    I’m all for women’s rights. No doubt about it. But when you say ‘feminist,’ I picture a spoiled, psychotic child arguing with her parents.. or a seriously misguided woman fighting the patriarchy.

    • OMG, you have your bigoted pro-male head so far up your bigoted, pro-male arse, I think the lack of oxygen has ceased your capacity for rational thought.

      “Thank testosterone”? No, thank “women being prohibited until EXTREMELY RECENTLY from entering formerly all-male fields. And look into female technology pioneers, will ya? Ada Lovelace was NOT a man. Neither were a great many people who fought against forced gender exclusion. You choose to remain blind to the advances women were responsible for, and on top of that ignorance, you double down with crediting testosterone for good things while excusing it for war, violence, and just about everything bad in society.

      Also, even though there are more men at the high end of the IQ scale, men ALSO occupy the lowest scale of the IQ spectrum as well. Women score higher than many, many men, and Marilyn Vos Savant is not as unique as dumb people would like to claim.

  • G&PT

    Feminism doesn’t mean misandry, but MRA doesn’t mean misogyny. There are misogynists involved in the mens rights movement, just like there are misandrists involved in feminism. There are prominent leaders of the mens rights movements who have come out with misogynistic things, yet there are prominent feminists who have come out with misandric things.

  • Matthew Reece

    Feminists and MRAs have the same problem. The majority of both that I have met are female or male supremacists, respectively, with only a small minority actually seeking equal rights and treatment across genders.

  • healthnut

    There needs to be more discussion of misandry as separate from true feminism. What I get as a socially lower caste male is a great deal of psychological abuse from authoritarian females who have a deep-seated hatred for anything with a penis. While some male(s) in their lives may have done them real harm at some point it is unfair for them to deflect their legitimate anger onto me. This transference of anger is a big problem amongst the entire human population, women are no different. Challenging modern patriarchy is a feminist endeavor I would support, as I strongly dislike the concept of marriage and ownership of a spouse. In pre-Christian pagan/heathen societies there was no formal marriage and the tribe saw everyone as part of a big family. Some tribes were matriarchal and others were patriarchal, but everyone got along for the most part. We can’t call the hateful gender wars of modern times evolution by any means, we’re getting worse as we move into the future unless we wake up to our common needs and interdependency. Maybe the semi-benevolent reptilian extraterrestrials (ha, ha ; ) can reset our logic skills and we’ll get along as we did in the pagan days before organized religions ruined tribal gender equality.

  • John Smith

    All victims of hate have the inherent right to defend themselves and name their attacker.

    KKK is not for equal rights between blacks and whites. Blacks are within their rights to defend themselves against the hate from that group.

    Nazis are not for equal rights between the races. Minorities are within their rights to defend themselves against the hate from that group.

    Feminists are not for equal rights between the sexes. Males are within their rights to defend themselves against the hate from that group.

    “Males” is not a group united in beliefs. There is no conscious consent to join. You can blame a person for joining the KKK or repeating the philosophical beliefs of the KKK. You can’t blame a person for the KKK’s beliefs simply because the person is white. That is racist.

    Hate groups will always argue until red in the face that they don’t preach hate. The truth is you can’t claim to be biased against a race, sex, religion, nationality or any other collection of people that are guilty of nothing but being born without being labeled a hate group.

    With the internet this simple fact is now well known and the feminists are left to defend a morally bankrupt position. No amount of drama or emotional outburst or ranting will change it.

  • TheKnowerseeker

    I think that if you support equal rights for both men and women and *nothing more radical than that*, then you need to call yourself “fair” — or just something else other than “feminist”. Just say the word and think about it: “Feminist”. What if I said “Masculinist”? What would that make you think of? Get my point?

    Maybe the misandrists are the true feminists.

    • http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/11/10/feminism-not-humanism-youtube_n_6132414.html
      This ought to break down into easily understood little pieces why feminism is for equal rights.

      • TheKnowerseeker

        I’ll counter your far left “reference” (http://www.debate.org/opinions/do-you-think-that-the-huffington-post-is-offensive-and-racially-biased ) with a suitable counterweight (http://www.conservapedia.com/Feminism ), as well as another reference from a still-left-but-less-so source on how some Feminists, even, are coming to realize how poisonous orthodox (“radical”) Feminism is to society (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feminism#Critique_of_feminism_and_anti-feminism — final paragraph ).

      • Wow! Anti-feminists hold anti-feminist opinions!

        Say it can’t be true! That was almost like reading conservative sites’ “evidence” that blacks and Jewish people and foreigners and unmarried mothers and pesky foreigners are all bad! So totally filled with integrity and believability!

        I’m bookmarking those links, they were too funny.

      • TheKnowerseeker

        Sorry, but though you didn’t mention it — and maybe that’s because it simply went over your head — **the coup de grace was with the first link**, whose purpose was to show that the overwhelming majority of Americans do not consider Huffington Post to be a reliable (unbiased) source. Then, with the second link, I returned your insult to my intelligence by posting my own HuffPost-style counter-“reference” — partly to spite you, and partly because it agrees with my position. Finally I finished burying you with the final paragraph of the third link from a supposedly “neutral” source — Wikipedia (though it’s still leftist, especially on certain subjects) — citing people in the Feminist movement leveling the same accusations *I have* against their own movement.

      • Look, all you’re trying to do is convince people that your farts smell better than anyone else’s, but you’re trying to act as though your position is unquestionably righteous. It isn’t even objectively correct (much like your links). If you want to learn how you’re incorrect, then elevate yourself from the South Park level of posting. It’s a good
        show, but it make for terrible real-life debating.

        Look, I am no fan of HuffPo. HOWEVER the video of the guy breaking down feminism into tiny, little, comprehensible pieces for dumb people still holds true. And if you wanted to dip your toe into a wee bit of honesty, you’d have to admit that Wiki is A.) full of shit, and B.) very anti-feminist, as Wiki has prevented feminists from fixing the trollish malarkey that anti-feminists have replaced
        feminists’ pages with. Google “Wikipedia Blocks Feminists” to see how laughably anti-feminist the site is.

        I know knowledge may feel like pain, but it’ll be a useful pain, as you won’t be burdening strangers with your nonsense anymore.

      • TheKnowerseeker

        I decided to Google your suggested phrase despite all of your immature and malicious taunts and insults, and here are the top two most relevant articles that resulted from the search: 1. http://internet.gawker.com/wikipedia-purged-a-group-of-feminist-editors-because-of-1681463331 , and 2. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-intersect/wp/2014/08/04/mens-rights-activists-think-a-hateful-feminist-conspiracy-is-ruining-wikipedia/ .

        #1 is about a group of “Feminist” editors that were banned from Wikipedia for insisting through article edits that Gamergate was primarily about misogyny rather than outrage against corruption among big-name video game reviewers; the powers that be at Wiki believe that the opposite is true. I, myself, do happen to also believe that Gamergate was mostly about outrage against corruption, though I did not witness it personally and can only go according to secondhand accounts. I did not read enough into the article to decide if it was “fair” for those certain editors to be banned, but I can say that I would not have wanted just their version of the story to stick around either. (I would support keeping it as a side note.)

        However — get this — the second article is about how Wikipedia supposedly discriminates against anti-feminists, or the MGTOW movement. Now, the first article is newer, but the second is only about a year old. So which one is it? Does Wikipedia discriminate against Feminists, MGTOW, both, or neither? Maybe *some* of the powers that be discriminate against one or the other, or maybe there is no discrimination: just case-by-case decisions.

        Regardless, the fact of the matter is that misandrists have always existed among the Feminists, and the latest generation of misandrists (like Anita Sarkeesian) have now completely taken over the label of “Feminism” by being the squeakiest wheels. Look, it’s impossible for you to try to recover the word for the “moderate” Feminist camp: When the term “Feminism” was first coined, no manifesto accompanied it right? So it wasn’t defined in stone for all future generations to understand without debate. Also, the term itself is flawed, because it’s not “Equalism” but “Female-ism” — a focus on females over males, which is just another kind of discrimination.

        Lastly, you wouldn’t have gotten quite the reaction you did out of me if you had not immediately used a Huff Post “reference” to try to disprove my original statement; that was a really dumb / intellectually dishonest move on your part. You have a thing or two to learn about persuasion.

      • “Also, the term itself is flawed, because it’s not “Equalism” but “Female-ism” — a focus on females over males, which is just another kind of discrimination.”

        ^^^ Again, until you realize how faulty your perception is, your opinion merits no more than those farts of yours. They are only delicious to you; anyone who knows better finds them (your faulty opinions) noxious.

        By all means keep believing what makes you feel good (that you miraculously know so much more about the motivations and goals of an entire movement you are absolutely no part of), but don’t be so egomaniacal as to keep assuming that your uninformed opinion is of any value to those who know better.

        As the old saying goes, “Feminism didn’t teach me to hate men, but it did teach me to stop prioritizing them over women. And it turns out a lot of men think that’s the same thing as hatred”.
        https://www.pinterest.com/pin/291256300880896279/

      • TheKnowerseeker

        Nice. Not only did you lose the argument, but you chose to go down in a blaze of glory. Fitting for a Regressive.

      • Doll, you accidentally posted your response to the wrong post! IRONY ALERT!

      • TheKnowerseeker

        Be sure to keep pouring more gasoline on your burning wreckage: It’s amusing!

      • Be sure to stop staring deeply into your mirror next time you obsessively type out your self-mantras to da Interwebz for all to see.

  • im lost

    Too many misandrists call call themselves feminists, not all women are misandrists but every misandrist is a feminists