The NRA Is Spending A Ton Of Money On Security For Event With ‘Nine Acres Of Guns’

nra-conventionWithout a doubt, the group of people I find most frustrating to deal with (besides libertarians) are gun nuts. I would much rather debate a Bible-thumping creationist for 12 hours than deal with a radical gun fanatic for even ten minutes.


Gun nuts are easily some of the most paranoid, irrational and angry people I ever encounter. They are the ones who make it nearly impossible to have any semblance of a common sense debate about guns in this country, because they honestly believe that guns have nothing to do with gun violence. That’s like saying alcohol has nothing to do with alcoholism.

And when I do encounter these folks, it’s typically the same worn out nonsense I’ve heard parroted by every single one of them over and over again. It’s always the same ridiculous talking points like “the only way to stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun” or “we need more guns to make us safer.”

Well, in a bit of hypocrisy and contradiction, it seems the NRA is spending over $200,000 on security for their annual convention taking place in Tennessee this week.

Now, is there anything wrong with spending nearly a quarter of a million dollars on security for an event where the NRA is promoting it as “nine acres of guns”? No, of course not. But then again, I’m someone who believes that guns are inherently dangerous and we need tighter regulations on them.

However, the NRA and their fellow “gun enthusiasts” always perpetuate the idea that the more guns a person has, the safer they are. I’m sure most of us have seen one of those signs often adored by gun lovers that says something along the lines of “this house doesn’t call 911,” insinuating that their guns are the only “law enforcement” they need.

So, one would think that an event filled with gun owners, containing over “nine acres of guns,” would be the last place a criminal would want to strike, right? I’m always hearing open carry activists claim that the biggest reason they support openly carrying their guns is to deter criminals. If that’s true, why would a convention filled with gun enthusiasts – and acres of guns – need nearly a quarter million dollars in security for protection?


While security at an event such as this isn’t uncommon (and it’s often required), the amount of security the NRA is hiring for this weekend event is abnormally high. So it would seem that the size of the event, along with the absurd amount of guns, has prompted the NRA to bring in much more security than normal. That sounds to me like more guns isn’t making the event safer; in fact, the number of guns are actually making the event more volatile and dangerous – hence the increased security.

Again, I’m not saying that a large security contingent isn’t warranted – it absolutely is. I’m simply using the propaganda often pushed by the NRA to showcase how absolutely hypocritical it is of the organization to spend $200,000 on security at a gun event, while always claiming that guns are all you need for “protection against criminals.”

It seems when the chips are down, at an event where increased security is needed, the NRA isn’t turning to their “nine acres of guns” or the gun enthusiasts attending said event for their added protection from would-be criminals. Instead, they’re doing what most of us do – looking to trained law enforcement officials to not only help deter crime, but also to deal with any criminal activity that might occur during the 3-day event.




Allen Clifton

Allen Clifton is a native Texan who now lives in the Austin area. He has a degree in Political Science from Sam Houston State University. Allen is a co-founder of Forward Progressives and creator of the popular Right Off A Cliff column and Facebook page. Be sure to follow Allen on Twitter and Facebook, and subscribe to his channel on YouTube as well.

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  • Flat Banana

    You need security for any event regardless of what the event may be. Do you really believe the patrons will be up 24/7 walking the isles? No. Overnight security for any event is standard and depending on the size of the facility and number of security guards the cost could warrant that, public safety is important right? Damn this website is like MSNBC, completely biased, no argument from both sides and hardly any viewers.

    • Jim Bean

      I’ve been nearly alone here for a year. Please stick around. BTW, at first the story was ‘NRA Will Allow No Working Guns at Convention.” That spread like wildfire of course even though it was only the guns on display that were to be disabled. People attending are allowed to carry in accordance with state law.

      On this site, evidence is invariably tossed aside when it is an obstacle to the radical left wing narrative. Mr. Clifton seems to be the managing editor is the most ideological, anti-pragmatic author I’ve encountered to date.

      • Flat Banana

        I found this site in the weeds yesterday, I figured it would open my mind up a bit to the other side but geez there is hardly any credible information on here. Another article of what seems to be the only writer on here, Allen Clifton, used buzzfeed as a source. I mean really? That is the best he could do?
        Ill try to stick around and read the comedic material and enjoy a laugh with you.

      • Jim Bean

        There are several other authors here of the same persuasion. I hang around because I believe this stuff is socially dangerous and to do what I can (and it isn’t much) to temper the perspectives of the readers. Media Matters is another such site that I invite you to inhabit with me, if you don’t already.

        I must say this in defense of Mr. Clifton: I have been a boil on his butt for at least a year and he hasn’t tried to silence me and for that, I extend to him a certain degree of respect. Same can be said for Media Matters. On some other sites – AlterNet is one that comes to mind – they delete your input at the first hint of disobedience to their narrative.

        Pleased to meet you. Lets make a difference.

    • wendy

      The article stated that it was more than usual amount of security. Agreed that security is a necessity at any public event with many people.
      It is a bit ironic tho that if armed people feel so safe, why the additional security?

      • Flat Banana

        You are not getting the point, not every single person at the event will be armed. They still need to follow state laws and some states do not allow you to carry in multiple states. The people at the event don’t go there to work for free and secure the facility they are attending that is the job of the hired security.

      • Brewblaz

        Somehow 9 acres of firearms in my immediate area does not make me feel more secure.

      • Flat Banana

        It is people like you that make others afraid for absolutely no reason, if you cant ride the roller coast don’t stand in line. A firearms is not going to simply discharge itself, it takes a person to pull the trigger for it to happen.

      • Brewblaz

        There is no danger of theft,accidental discharge,sneaking in a loaded weapon,a person as you say pulling the trigger,self inflicted wounds at the show?

        If you have snakes in your backyard,
        Some of them will probably bite you.

      • Flat Banana

        Come on man you are comparing an inanimate object to a living animal. A living thing has to cause the hammer to fall on a loaded firearm.
        There is no such thing as accidental discharge, only improper use of a firearm.

      • Brewblaz

        I was merely making an analogy, a quote from the TV show Homeland if you must know., if you want change it to this:

        If you have snakey people with firearms in your backyard
        Some of them will probably inflict harm on you.

        Accidental discharge, or improper use of firearm, either one can inflict bodily damage.

    • Creeayshun Sighuntist

      no really, go crawl back under your rock or into your doomsday bunker and pay no attention to JB here squeaking for attention while taking a break from Breitbart and Faux.

      • Flat Banana

        You are the type of person that is too afraid to hear criticism, open your mind up to what is really happening in the government. How can you possibly sit here and believe that things like net neutrality, forced health care and remove the right to own a weapon are good for society??
        If you get your news from the mediocre sources this websites uses than you need to reevaluate yourself. The fact that this website its not even news, uses buzzfeed as a source should open your eyes to that these people have no idea what they are talking about.

      • Creeayshun Sighuntist

        Seriously? How old are you? You know nothing about me, my mind, and what I know and have been through. Go find a soapbox and climb on it at Faux Nation, Breitbart or the other right wing trash sites.

      • Creeayshun Sighuntist

        LOL…you really crack me up, a guy who gets his news from Breitbart….BWWWAAAHHHAAAHAAAAA

      • Flat Banana

        I never said I did, you only assumed. My comment about this “author” using Buzzfeed as a source is true. You claim right wing news is all lies but all you have given me to go off of is name calling and rambling comments about how old I am.

      • Creeayshun Sighuntist

        answer me this, why aren’t members of the armed forces allowed to carry privately owned weapons or have them in their on-base housing or vehicles on base? Are you aware that the quickest way to be detained on an installation would be to have a weapon in your vehicle or on your person if not on duty and specifically authorized to have that weapon at that particular time? What does the military know about weapons that you don’t?

      • Flat Banana

        Actually I was in the Air Force for 10 years so I think I know more about this than you do as I was a police officer. You are allowed to have POWs on base as long as they are in accordance with installation instructions and registered with the armory. You can also transport your weapon on and off the installation as well, depending on state it needs to be locked in a case in your trunk unloaded. You are only allowed to carry your government issued firearm while on duty or while performing official business. Just like I stated above it depends on the state but for the most part personally owned firearms are to be unloaded and locked in a case and transported to the armory for safekeeping or to the persons quarters.
        If you are going to bring up a topic please research and know what you are talking about.

      • Creeayshun Sighuntist

        exactly, transported to the armory, not just hanging around. LOL

      • Flat Banana

        You don’t make any sense, your original comment said nothing about a weapon “just hanging around”.

      • Creeayshun Sighuntist

        that is what most of Americans have. There are no controls once they purchase it. none. Gun nuts go stalk ladies at starbucks to prove some ridiculous point

      • Flat Banana

        Right because your extensively broad stereotype works for every single person.

      • Creeayshun Sighuntist

        no, just the gun nuts

      • Flat Banana

        As much as you think these people are nuts, these people think you are “nuts” for thinking the world is a completely safe place. Going about things so nonchalantly is ridiculous.

      • Creeayshun Sighuntist

        Yeah, ladies at starbucks are pretty threatening….
        And I have news for you, there are many places in the world that ARE safe and have extremely strict gun laws. No guns = no shooting deaths. Funny how that works.

      • Flat Banana

        Right and we see how well that worked for Paris.

      • Creeayshun Sighuntist

        I get it, you are afraid. People always make great decisions when they are fearful.
        And actually, violent crime is relatively uncommon in that particular city. You seem to think adding more weaponry is the answer…LOL

      • Creeayshun Sighuntist

        I don’t need to research since we just had to get one of our DA Civilians from the MPs for having a weapon in his glove box.

      • Flat Banana

        Right that is a felony in almost any state, having a loaded firearm in your car attempting to conceal it. If you are not registered to openly carry that weapon it is a crime.

      • Creeayshun Sighuntist

        it’s registered. that is not the problem. guess again

      • Flat Banana

        It doesn’t matter if it is registered, that person has to have authorization from the state to openly carry it. The gun is registered upon purchase.

      • Creeayshun Sighuntist

        he does.

      • Flat Banana

        Obviously he wasn’t carrying it properly, open carry doesn’t mean store it in your glovebox. It means secured to ones body. The installation falls under different rules then state laws, unless it has proprietary jurisdiction with local police.

      • Creeayshun Sighuntist

        period, he cannot be wearing it on base and nobody does on base. period

      • Creeayshun Sighuntist

        did you see a lot of open carry on post and in housing when in the AF? Was that allowed? Why not?

      • Flat Banana

        I said it below because military installations fall under the law of the UCMJ and installation instructions. They can do as they wish because that area is controlled for and by the military.

      • Creeayshun Sighuntist

        I am acutely aware of this.

      • Flat Banana

        If you understand this then why keep bringing it up? You obviously understand that laws are different on and off installations so why would you ever think that they are always one in the same.

      • Creeayshun Sighuntist

        what do they know and apply that the rest of the US does not?

      • Creeayshun Sighuntist

        if they/WE can’t do as we wish and the 2nd Amendment is an all encompassing right for Americans and the military is made up of roughly 85% republicans, why aren’t they carrying as they please on installations?

      • Creeayshun Sighuntist

        he cannot have it on post. period. UNLESS transporting it to the armory for safe keeping.

      • Flat Banana

        Exactly you are reiterating what I have already said, it depends on the guidelines from the installation commander and local laws with police and state government. Not every base is the same. Just like not every person is the same but you seem to believe that is not true.

      • Creeayshun Sighuntist

        Do you find it odd that weapons are heavily controlled on base and you are ok with that, but don’t care about what happens in the rest of the city?

      • Flat Banana

        A military installation is a completely different atmosphere than the civilian world.

      • Creeayshun Sighuntist

        Like I said before, I am very aware of this. Why don’t we trust our military members to carry weapons around as they see fit?

  • Jim Bean

    The purpose of security is not to safeguard against the typical gun owner. The purpose of the security is to safeguard against the militant left-wing anti-gun jihadists who will stop at nothing to prove its really the law abiding gun owner who is the bad guy.

    • Richard Verdejo

      C’mon…give some more canned response regurgitated partisan labeling.

  • wendy

    Im guessing the security overload is more to avoid theft than to ensure safety

    • Flat Banana

      The mere presence of security is to mitigate crimes and increase the safety of patrons.

      • Brewblaz

        Would as much security be needed if you were selling or displaing say Chocolate Rabbits, & Rubber Ducks rather than lethal weapons?

      • Flat Banana

        Now you are just being petty. Deadly crimes can happen anywhere using any object. It isn’t the object that kills a person it is the person using an object.

      • Brewblaz

        I know Guns don’t kill, people kill…call me stupid (I’m sure you will) but I’m just not that comfortable with that many weapons in that large an area with that many people….I’ll take my chances with the “chocolate rabbits”

      • Flat Banana

        Being afraid of an object that doesn’t move is ridiculous.

      • Brewblaz

        It’s the people, as you suggest that use the object that concern me.

      • Flat Banana

        I understand that, just as I am weary of drunk drivers and inattentive drives as well. If anything is used properly there is an a extremely small percentage of something going wrong. I have no qualms about improving the quality of background checks.

      • Brewblaz

        The only difference of course, and I’m sure you’ve heard it a 1000 times, is that fire arms are meant to inflict damage, while vehicles inherently are not.
        I’m pleasantly surprised about your position on background checks.

      • Charles Vincent

        It’s properly called hopolophobia.

      • Creeayshun Sighuntist

        is that the canned GOP response of the week?

      • Flat Banana

        I see you are just hunting my comments down, please bring something to the table instead of the constant name calling etc.

      • Creeayshun Sighuntist

        well, apparently police in Arizona think a man who stole a gun from Wal Mart needed to be run over with police car. I wonder if police in AZ would do that if he had stolen a spoon? They are the same aren’t they? Both equally dangerous? Steal a spoon and get run over. Show me where that has happened…

      • Flat Banana

        You seriously came back into an old article to beat a dead horse. A spoon and a rifle are two completely different things. The guy was shooting into the air after robbing a store. We all know how much progressives dislike police and weapons you don’t need to make it that obvious.

      • Creeayshun Sighuntist

        you keep harping that they are the same. Apparently police don’t agree with you.

      • Flat Banana

        We all get it your are unemployed living off the welfare your representative promises you every year. Relax with the tidal wave of comments.

      • Creeayshun Sighuntist

        sorry to keep pointing out your idiocy…

      • Creeayshun Sighuntist

        you see it all of the time, right? Man gets shot because police thought he had a spoon…. Or, “get down, drop the spoon”

      • Creeayshun Sighuntist

        apparently police were afraid enouugh of this object enough to run him over….

  • BPMM

    You Second Amendment, Teabagging, wingnuts need to go to the Conservatives4Palin website to find others of your kind….delusional and mindless.

  • Macdoodle

    The person that wrote this article is a sheep.

  • Macdoodle

    My comment referring to the author being a sheep was flagged and removed.I don’t get it.Its not like I said something racist or offensive.

  • Creeayshun Sighuntist

    More guns = the need for more guns just in case the people who don’t like you happen to own guns too. Funny how this cycle just keeps spinning…

    Funny how the military does’t allow anyone to carry a weapon on base/post except the MPs or very specific training exercises. That is the quickest way to get confined is to try and bring a weapon through a military gate. Even the military doesn’t want loaded weapons around people unless in a combat zone.

  • Creeayshun Sighuntist

    Since these blowhard teabaggers think spoons are just as dangerous, why aren’t there armed guards at Bed Bath and Beyond and Wal-Mart in the silverware section? And why do they always keep guns locked up behind the counter and chained up? Wal Mart and sporting goods stores around the country should just put them out for everyone to handle if they aren’t dangerous.

  • Mark Stone

    Anyone getting a bromance vibe between flat banana and Jim beaner bean? Maybe they should get together and spoon while they spew their bull feces and stupidity. Do it in Indiana and see if some one will deliver pizzas to their honeymoon suite at the cheap motel.

  • Erin Anderson

    Ever wonder why people like Obama, Mike Bloomberg or these other anti-gun Communists fight to take gun rights away from law abiding citizens while at the same time these anti-gun politicians walk around with armed body guards? It because these Liberal Communist hypocrites think they are the only people who should be able to protect their lives with a gun. We all need to tell these anti-gun hypocrites that they will not succeed in destroying our second amendment rights.