It’s Official! You Can Now Carry a Loaded Weapon into a Bar in South Carolina

smokin-acesI understand that as an American we are all given the right to “bear arms” because our Second Amendment guarantees it.  Sure, there’s the argument made by some that the Second Amendment only meant for the purpose of a “well-regulated militia,” but our Supreme Court has consistently sided with the right for the average citizen to own guns.

It’s a right I support.  Though I strongly disagree with the gun nuts who oppose almost all sensible regulations against firearms.

That being said, under no circumstance should ordinary citizens take loaded guns into bars.

Period.

And don’t give me the nonsense about “people needing to protect themselves” when it comes to mixing alcohol with firearms.

But that’s exactly what was signed into law by South Carolina Governor Nikki Haley.

Citizens with concealed handgun licenses will now be allowed to carry guns with them into places that serve food and alcohol.  Oh, with the stipulation that they can’t drink while being armed.

Because, you know, people always follow the law when it comes to alcohol consumption, right?  After all, that’s why underage drinking and DUI arrests aren’t problems in this country.

This law does give businesses the right to post signs prohibiting the carrying of firearms inside their establishment.  Though that provision then puts the choice on businesses, many of which might face pressure from patrons, to make the choice on whether or not to prohibit guns.

I can already see the gun nuts saying things like, “Don’t give your business to (fill in bar’s name), they’re out to restrict your Second Amendment rights!”

Who really believes this is a good idea?  I support the right for Americans to own guns, but to carry them in bars?  Come on.

Just because you have the right to own guns doesn’t mean every regulation that prohibits a citizen from having a gun at a particular time is a bad idea.

I’ve been to plenty of bars, and have even been in a couple of bar-room confrontations myself (in my younger years of course), and the last thing I’d want involved in any of those would be some drunk idiot having easy access to a loaded gun.

I just can’t see any form of common sense being involved in allowing people to have loaded guns inside of bars full of people who are drinking alcohol.  If we’re not supposed to drink and drive (and again, telling people they can’t carry and drink isn’t going to stop everyone from doing so) because of the impact alcohol has on our decision making, it makes absolutely no sense to increase the risk that someone might be drunk and using a loaded gun.

It’s as if these people are determined to take our society back to the days of the Wild West when everyone carried around a gun cradled in a belt holster at all times.

And it’s unfair to put this decision on business owners who might be forced to allow guns (against their better judgement) due to the backlash of idiots who are more obsessed with their “Second Amendment rights” than using common sense when it comes to carrying a loaded weapon.

Because it’s clear common sense had nothing to do with the passage of this law.

Allen Clifton

Allen Clifton is a native Texan who now lives in the Austin area. He has a degree in Political Science from Sam Houston State University. Allen is a co-founder of Forward Progressives and creator of the popular Right Off A Cliff column and Facebook page. Be sure to follow Allen on Twitter and Facebook, and subscribe to his channel on YouTube as well.

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  • Michael Siever

    Actually, saying that they want to go back to the Wild West is an insult to the Wild West. In the real-life Wild West, not the Hollywood Wild West, the sheriffs would actually make everybody check their firearms in with them, because what do you know? It turns out even back then they had enough common sense to know that combining drinking and carrying guns was a recipe for disaster.

    • crabjack

      That was then, this is now. Common sense no longer applies.

      • Phil the observer

        The problem with common sense is that it now appears to be a power only super heros have….Just sayin

      • Hugh Januts

        A Progressive talking about common sense, laugh my ass off. You twisted liberal zombies will never figure this out. Your Obama experiment is over and once we get some common sense back in the WH and clean out all the left wing cancer there this Country may have a fighting chance. You idiots are watching your own Country burn and are applauding like it will not effect you clowns. Keep marching you zombies , Obama ‘s coming for everything YOU own as well. How stupid can you losers be.

      • crabjack

        Oooooo. Clever comeback Hugh. Let me see if I can be as witty. I doubt it: I don’t have the practice that you have in belittling your adversaries. I didn’t learn such a craft, like you did, sucking on the teet of your heroes like Reagan and Limbaugh. I haven’t honed my skills while trolling right-wing blogs and websites, looking to raise the anger of its readers for no other reason than to raise their anger (as I see it those right wing sheep are angry enough), as you spend so much time doing on progressive websites. My agenda is to make a better world for my children and their children, not to batter my opponents with lies and un-truths and hate-filled spats which accomplish nothing but to make readers wonder in what universe I am living, just as the readers of this post constantly have to wonder in what universe you exist, what eyes cause you to see things the way you do. So it’s not likely that I can pull off so polished and eloquent a retort as you did, but I’ll try –

        I find it extremely humorous every time I read a reactionary like you who thinks he’s in the least intelligent. You are not. You and your ilk are only spreading the talking points of your handlers without an inkling of what you’re saying or where they’re leading you. You actually are naive enough to believe the lies they tell you to spread, and not perceptive enough to understand that the more you spout the fear and hate politics of the right, the more powerful the rich become, and the more control they have over you. Unless you are one of the rich 1% (and I’m beginning to think you might be) – who but the wealthy and those incapable of thinking for themselves would spout the drivel that you bring here? No; I think you’re not wealthy. That leaves “incapable of thinking.” (How am I doing?)

        I admit, as you profess, that too many of us progressives are watching our country burn, and for that I’m a little ashamed, but it is you teabaggers who are burning it. You are allowing, no, insisting that the corporations take over the country and insist that the government give them free-reign to do so. Not that you think that a Corporatocracy is a good thing for people; you just don’t think. You do what your leaders tell you. When they tell you to jump, you don’t bother to ask how high, you jump off the cliff like so many other lemmings.

        I’m not going to even get started talking about your bigotry and hate, but you have a lot of nerve lambasting President Obama when you probably support the policies of Reagan and Bush and the Koch bros. et. al., the policies that got us into the mess we’re in presently, the policies that gave all the money to the rich and started wars that cost hundreds of thousands of lives – to benefit the rich…. I could go on, but anyone with any kind of brain understands. Obama’s not coming to take everything that I own. Rich, corporate America is doing that. The rich corporate America that controls stupid sheep like you.

        There! I suppose, with practice, I could get like you. But I really don’t see the point; your handlers have you so brainwashed you’ll never change. But you and your kind will become extinct. It’s social and political evolution (I know you probably hate that word.) Either the populace will win out and there will be no room for your babble, or the rich will win and have no further need of you and will throw you away. Either way you lose.

  • JamieHaman

    Drunk people. Alcohol readily available. People flirting. Firearms readily available. What could possibly go wrong?

    • white trash religious teaparty

      oh nooooooooooooooo!!!! we cannot legalize weed!
      ( might get glass bong shot)

    • Phil the observer

      Well, Nothing that I can see……Until I walk up to miss Lillys table and flirt a little and her boyfriend stuffs his gun up my a##…..I am to young to die, and to old to have the crap knocked out of me..

  • Scott McMahon

    Okay, so, let me get this straight… Guns okay in bars, but god forbid anyone ever lit up a cigarette in a bar……. I presume South Carolina is about to legalise drunk driving as well….

    • Bine646

      Bars i went to in the Carolinas they wouldnt let us go outside to smoke, they made us stay inside

    • TheRealSocialmedic

      I don’t get it, WHY would anybody go to South Carolina? If this was an attempt at publicity to attract tourist its isn’ working.

  • Sunny Ray

    Well, first time I came to the US, my host told me “welcome to the wild west…”, it’s a shame. Plus, even if the country wants to live by laws written a century ago that’s fine, but don’t pretend that it’s to protect your family, if it was the case why not leaving the gun at home? After killing because of music to loud and texting in theatre, here comes killing at the bar because the bear was warm… pathetic

    • Bine646

      Came to the US but dont like the laws- that must be tough, almost would make me want to leave….

      • Sunny Ray

        Never said that sir, I’m from another culture where killing people is wrong, here you can kill and get away with it, because that’s the law, I just don’t get it. Don’t worry I won’t stay forever, I’m just taking as much as I can from you and I’ll leave…

      • Bine646

        And you wonder why we drone your countries and citizens. And dont act like you arent here paying taxes buddy, while those criminals killing people do not. Thanks for helping with our debt hahaha

      • Sunny Ray

        I don’t wonder, I know why, you feel insecure in your own country

      • Bine646

        Resources, resources, resources- dont be so ignorant Sunny. Two hundred years ago we came and took this land. After the wars we started occupying others, like yours- you mad?

      • Sunny Ray

        Well, you just confirm what I say, culture of war. By the way, I’m not from an occupied country

      • Bine646

        You are from a country which it seems doesnt have the economy of America- hence why you are here

      • Sunny Ray

        once again you are totally wrong and making a conclusion that only make sense to you, and only you. Shallow and weak…

      • white trash religious teaparty

        hey!! I thought U crybabies on the right are bemoaning the collapsing of our ( at this time slowly recovering and growing) economy!
        spinning again??

      • white trash religious teaparty

        bine is correct———white trash religious scum came to America and killed the natives ( just as CHRISTIANS did in SOUTH America,,,,,,,,,,)
        welcome to the reality of white trash religion and American history
        ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,now: about that slavery thing?

      • Bine646

        Man o man- you just never stop following people around. How bored are you?

      • white trash religious teaparty

        so- when U respond to people its NOT following-
        when I respond to you you show a pseudo-bovarism by claiming im following you?
        FOX “news” will have a nice hour-long show just for you to host!! You have the much needed spinning moxie for that!!

      • Bine646

        Youve just responded to all my comments- none of which were directed to you. Gooo that wayyyyyy

      • white trash religious teaparty

        that’s you view————– most others view this as an OPEN forum. stop crying

      • Bine646

        gooooo thattttt wayyyyyyyy

      • white trash religious teaparty

        crybaby white trash regressives,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, crying! Obama…then Hillary 2016-2024; then eliz warren? ,,,,tea party new WHIG model. imploding!!
        tissue for thee?

      • Bine646

        I am all for Hillary- she wanted the Iraq war and I agree with her on that….plus she let Bill pipe whoever he wanted- she just waited in the other room

      • TheRealSocialmedic

        If REAL Democrats were running GORE would have been president.

      • Bine646

        Gore was to busy making the internet and exposing global warming……

      • white trash religious teaparty

        and getting lanced by jeb bushs florida

      • TheRealSocialmedic

        Just like the women of Wall Street?

      • TheRealSocialmedic

        How about we just get Liz and stop wasting time?

      • white trash religious teaparty

        not yet—- lets pissoff FOX “news” for 8 yrs….THEN crush them with liz

      • white trash religious teaparty

        “following”,,,,,,gotta love that
        U should have ur own spin show on crybaby regressive FOX “news”
        “following”……………….. sorry white trash fella– im a leader- only!
        ( I do follow stocks and option chains OF certain stocks….quite profitable albeit a lot of work)

      • Bine646

        if you are a leader than goooo thatttt wayyyyyy. dont worry ill catch up

      • white trash religious teaparty

        dubious,,,,,
        U are an oak: unwavering/ inflexible- incapable of ambulating

      • TheRealSocialmedic

        you mean the billions of slaves in the third world Americans buy from every day in Walmart, Kmart and Target? Gee and my ancestors only had 60. We were not so clever as to wipe our slavery under the carpet by exporting it AND demand we pay no taxes too boot!

      • white trash religious teaparty

        sounds like a regressive white trash crybaby “Christian” scum who knows that the long dried out jewish fisherman aint GOD—
        and………………….. ya’ didn’t touch my statement about how small dicked trash religious Christian destroyed so many lives…
        ohbytheway— “billions” of slaves in 3rd world?
        ur brilliance is exceed only by your math

      • TheRealSocialmedic

        Yea, billions. Population of planet earth SEVEN BILLION. You think they all live in the United States and Europe moron? How much cheap plastic trash have you piled into your SUV that is labeled Made in China, Made in India, Made in Pakistan … Why do you think business outsources labor to the third world? Because it is CHARITY? DER???? Its SLAVE WAGE LABOR made possible by the overpopulation provided in third world countries that out supplies the demand for labor, an oversupply which is being leveraged against the LIVING wage of workers in the WEST in countries like USA, 5% of the world population, 300 million people. God you are an idiot.

      • white trash religious teaparty

        hey gerbil droppings: im well aware that the population is that number ( give or take) and im delightfully aware that scumbag regressive rightwing policies ( predominantly started by SAINT Reagan) now have those 3rd world urchins making our stuff. slaves? slaves? that word can be bandied about to fit many contemporary definitions—example: white trash Christians are in my opinion SLAVES to the lies and financial evisceration of scumbag churches both here in USA and abroad– but I do digress!
        im an idiot? you are a simpleton who has no real world experience which can be inclusive of–but not limited to– investing/ ownership/ exceptional physical condition/ musical aptitude( fluency) as well as silly stuff such as having TONS of “experience” with sexually and aesthetically appealing women……. ostensible lexiphania—- historical and “americana” referencing. Skills to do a large myriad of things which generate PROFIT in a world fraught with fraudulent scumbags at every turn ( I remain immune)
        I would love to meet you and every other rightwing poor looking rebarbative cretin IN PERSON just to mock you through superior intellect and LIFE experience.
        alas– my dream of such is nugatory

      • TheRealSocialmedic

        Sucker!

      • TheRealSocialmedic

        You ready to organize a sit-in on Bine646’s living room Sunny? As Bine646 is a good Christian and believes in the golden rule: he cant have any problem with the principle: as you occupy, so shall you be occupied.

      • Bine646

        Im jewish

      • white trash religious teaparty

        then stop crying like a regressive christian

      • Bine646

        who is the chubby girl in ur photo?

      • white trash religious teaparty

        best part of being jewish? eventually acknowledging that TRUE “Christians” ( SEE: pentacostal) believe that ONLY those ( idiots) who accept CHRIS AS “GOD” ( not son of god) will enter ‘heaven’
        ===================================
        never mentioned on FOX “news” as they are desperate for jewish voting for rightwing trash
        ……….. that means heathens such as you and I will be partying in hades.
        trust me———- superior food/ women and music!!

      • Sunny Ray

        extremists… always so offensive and talking about what they don’t know and convinced they are right… What are you afraid of? I don’t pay taxes buddy, I’m a student, and I don’t pay tuition because of scholarships, thank YOU for your help

      • white trash religious teaparty

        bine is simple white trash regressive christian scum tea party crybaby

      • TheRealSocialmedic

        Americans only help foreigners with Tuition, not their own citizens. Americans are too jealous of other Americans to let them succeed. This they call patriotism.

      • Sunny Ray

        Totally wrong…

      • white trash religious teaparty

        debt caused by unpaid wars,,,,,, tax breaks to wealthy “job creators” ( see: bush record on THAT),,,and scumbag tax free churches spewing VOODOO for free

      • TheRealSocialmedic

        In the US, for every asshole you rob you rob 2 decent people. The US lives in the underground now that the loonies have taken over the country.

      • white trash religious teaparty

        please do,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, need some money so U can go to some 3rd world scumbag country? let us ALL know

      • Bine646

        man hes back- new name same gay avatar

      • white trash religious teaparty

        your collapse is accelerating—

      • white trash religious teaparty

        I didn’t know that a photo of me ( yes; showing off what shape I am in) is “GAY”
        if it is,,,I must be a lesbian as many many women seem to accept my bodily fluids

      • TheRealSocialmedic

        If only leaving were that easy.

      • Bine646

        it isnt that hard? give it a shot

      • TheRealSocialmedic

        Obviously YOU have not tried it. You think you are free to just leave? You live in a fantasy bubble.

      • Bine646

        You cannot gain residency in another country than renounce your original in the states? Cough Eduardo Saverin cough cough- What bubble do you live in?

      • TheRealSocialmedic

        “You cannot gain residency in another country than renounce your original in the states?” Please translate. Maybe if one sorts through your gibberish you mean and American can renounce their citizenship to gain residency in another country? Try that in Brazil and see where it gets you. A lot DEPENDS on the relationships between nations and it has nothing to do with you. You can even have a dual citizenship between the USA and a country within the EU, that does not mean it is easy to move there. Just try to get a job. Have you tried to get a job in Europe? Not everybody has a trust fund to live off of and Europe, of late is not welcome to immigrants, especially poor and middle class immigrants. Some time ago I called both the British Embassy and another European Embassy and asked what an American had to do to get political asylum. The British Embassy basically laughed in my face and told me, “we do not grant political asylum to Americans, they have the law.” Go ahead, renounce your citizenship, see where you will end up living. I have friends who are British expats who live in the far East but if they were not millionaires before they went there, they would never have survived. When you have something SMART to say, talk to me about MY bubble.

  • Pipercat

    That over thar, is Pinkie LaRue. Now stranger, iffin you mosey too close to her table, she’ll probably skin that smokewagon she’s a wearin’ and plug ya!

  • Voter 636

    Yea and now Haley will not let us carry in the statehouse, governors house or court rooms,, now that is hipocracy

  • Bluelake

    What could be wrong with the chance of fewer South Carolinians?

  • rally2xs

    Sure, make everyone leave their guns in their cars, where thieves will break into them and steal the guns. Then you have felons with guns. Just brilliant.

    • Pipercat

      Great logic. How about leaving them at home if you simply must imbibe? You do get the hat trick award for the day though…

      • rally2xs

        If you leave them at home, how do you protect yourself on the way to/from everywhere you go on that trip? How do you protect your family, that are all going to the bar that is actually a restaurant that happens to serve alcohol, like a lot of pizza places?

      • Pipercat

        Hey, go heeled all you want. If you want to go to the bar and get lit, well cars, booze and six shooters don’t mix. My advice, stop at the Packy and get a six pack to take home.

      • Bine646

        Libs and progressives are always giving advice

      • Pipercat

        Of course, because the others are totally full of shit…

      • Bine646

        sure they are, sure they are

      • Pipercat

        Thank you for the confirmation, squared!

      • Bine646

        Your life is the definition of success- Im still waiting for you to write that book. So perfect infact you can spend hrs debating nothingness on messageboards- #dreamlife

      • Pipercat

        At least I waste my time using things like punctuation, logic and common sense!

      • Bine646

        its the internet, i can type however i want. i think you waste your time here bc people around you no longer listen or come around

      • Pipercat

        Are your texting and driving? Shame on you!

      • Bine646

        im actually walking out the door to work. wallet- check. keys-check. lunch-check. loaded pistol n holster- check. Americaaaaaaa land of the free, stop trying to take that away from us bc you don’t agree.

      • Pipercat

        Brain- left on the nightstand. Fabulous!!!

      • Bine646

        Again- your opinion is not reality, you’ll figure that out eventually.

      • Pipercat

        No opinion necessary. It’s rather obvious you live in fear. Good for you! You have every right to live fearing existence. Sad, and yet, pathetic.

      • Bine646

        Live in fear? Bc I work in law enforcement and your tax dollars pay for my weapon? hahahaha, you are a walking contradiction pipercat. You are not strong enough or willing enough to protect yourself- so you pay taxes every year to have someone do it for you. Walking contradiction Piper, enjoy your day off?

      • Pipercat

        Somehow, I don’t feel any safer because you’re on the job there Wyatt…

      • Bine646

        An intruder breaks into your home- seems you are to weak to protect yourself so you call me. Might be time to man up there Kittycat, last I checked wars weren’t won with words and punctuation.

      • Pipercat

        Actually, wars are ended with words and punctuation. As dubious as it is about your claim of being a “peace officer,” I find it troubling that you would think that mixing cars, alcohol and firearms is a good thing. What happens at home is irrelevant. Oh, and calling you for help because there’s a crime being committed, isn’t that what patriotic citizens are supposed to do; moreover, isn’t that your fucking job? Seems to me, handling criminals should be left to the professionals. This again brings me back your dubious claim of employment.

      • Bine646

        My job is to protect the citizens around me who cannot protect themselves- ie, you?

      • Pipercat

        Your job is to serve the public. Perhaps a refresher course at the academy is in order. The dubious nature still holds true.

      • Bine646

        I am required to serve those who call on me, not all need my assistance. Not all rely on others there Pipe. Now hows your job going? Seems slow

      • Pipercat

        No slower than yours there Barney… Oh, and according to your first sentence, if you witness a crime you just pass on by because you weren’t called?

      • Bine646

        Ya I mean if I cant hear them scream help I keep on moving…….

      • Pipercat

        It means you’re a fraud…

      • Bine646

        It means i was being sarcastic. Go to work….

      • Pipercat

        You first Deputy Dawg…

      • Sunny Ray

        Going that way, more people wear guns to protect themselves and so call the police afterwards, if they do… they won’t need you for protection but to clean up what’s left, that is sad.

      • NYJOEYB

        Piper, don’t even pretend to believe a word that this punk has to say. Typical pussy who thinks that having a gun somehow makes him a man. Little bitch would get slapped if he actually spoke up in public, so he trolls around here for his kicks.

      • Bine646

        And JoeyB follows like he is use to doing….

      • NYJOEYB

        Truth hurts doesn’t it bitchboy? Yeah exactly what I thought…

      • Pipercat

        I know it, he’s totally full of shit.

      • Bine646

        prove me wrong, we dont need opinions here, we need facts

      • Pipercat

        Sorry, Hitchen’s razor. It’s up to you to prove you right. Not the other way around.

      • white trash religious teaparty

        ive abused bine for quite a while,,,,,,now he is a badge>?????

      • Pipercat

        Big box of Cracker Jacks. Puns are encouraged!

      • white trash religious teaparty

        dontcha jes’ LOVE these crybaby regressives? now THIS one has a badge and a gun!
        probably shoot himself in the foot ala jim carreys “charleton heston” parody

      • white trash religious teaparty

        wow————— bine with over inflated opinion of his grandeur. No one breaks into my place. I live in excellent ( one block from beach in pompano) gated community.
        I would love to meet u sans ur alleged badge and gun; and see how snarly U actually are

      • Jan Civil

        What a load. Are you saying that the people that know they should not police a situation do that out of WEAKNESS? Yeah, we do pay taxes so an organized situation of professional law enforcement can exist.
        I would not imagine for the life of me that you are professional or competent. I think chances are high that you’re just trolling and lying about that bit, though.
        If not, I have to say you’re the wrong temperament for the job and while there is such a thing as too intelligent to be police, you are too stupid.

      • Pipercat

        Bravo!

      • Bine646

        Organized situation of professional law enforcement? hahaha whattttttttt

      • white trash religious teaparty

        hey tough guy— I protect myself and break no laws ( except speeding in my nasty 1972 mach1)
        you work for government?
        im self employed……………… who is MORE of what the crybaby republicans demand??
        me! *( hey: wait,,,,, thats fucked up!)

      • Patiod

        So someone who doesn’t carry a gun everywhere is “not strong enough” to protect themselves? Huh? Why are we the only civilized country in the world where people feel this is necessary? Bunch of gun nut loonies with nothing better to do than lurk on a progressive message board.

      • Bine646

        Did I say you had to protect yourself with a gun to be considered “strong”. Nope- I merely told Piper that she is not comfortable with citizens carrying weapons but she is ok paying someone to do the same exact thing.

        Individuals forget that not everyone lives within blocks of a police station. Alot of people live in the country where help can be over ten minutes away. We are a civilized country that has succeed with weapons in its history. Did we overthrow Britain with sticks and stones? Did we defeat the germans by supplying our european allies with marbles? No- our schools use to have rifle clubs and shooting teams. Now weapons are no longer allowed on campuses across America and how many shootings do we have?

      • Pipercat

        You’re such a dolt you never noticed that all I said was don’t mix alcohol and firearms. We have concealed weapon licenses here and I am all for them. You didn’t’ bother to ask. I thought the “police” are skilled inquisitors, what’s your excuse? Furthermore, you stated quite clearly that I’m too weak to protect myself because again, I stated how it’s stupid to mix firearms and alcohol. You then doubled your bet by flatulating some garbage about how you protect people who cannot protect themselves; which you disdain; which you cannot prove. Now here you are confirming my first assertion about tin poisoned adolescents such as yourself using this conflation of irrelevant bullshit in some half-baked, middle schooled reasoning involving the Germans!

        Moral of this story- give it a rest junior, you’re out of your league.

      • Bine646

        Sat around all day thinking about a response huh Pipe

      • Pipercat

        Yeah, tell us about those four hour shifts as an …. “officer!”

      • Bine646

        No computers at the station huh, no internet on my iphone……officers do not get a break?

      • Pipercat

        Aren’t you supposed to be chasing criminals or something? Oh that’s right, you have nothing but contempt for the taxpayers so you fuck off during your supposed shift. You’re not too bright are you?

      • Bine646

        Shift is over now…..

      • Pipercat

        Oh, so now on to your real job trying to make it rich on penny stocks. Like I said, not to bright…

      • Bine646

        Pennystocks? Thats gambling on the side- now you want to get into my investments?

      • Pipercat

        Well Jed, mind if I call you Jed? You’re a sloppy little welp that left a trail.

      • Bine646

        Jed? not my real name- social media is deliberate, so sloppy would not be the word

      • Pipercat

        Stupid- is more like it…

      • Bine646

        wow- good one…

      • Pipercat

        Thought you’d be- impressed. Too bad about the Broncos…

      • Bine646

        Not a broncos fan….

      • Pipercat

        Nuggies- then?

      • Bine646

        Hard to be a fan of the NBA these days, now college is another story

      • Pipercat

        Good progress- you should consider attending one. Help you get a perspective on things like- lying.

      • Bine646

        attended one- in loudonville ny. wanna see my degree?

      • Pipercat

        How about your- badge first.

      • Bine646

        doesnt seem i can send pictures on here- keep monitoring my twitter, maybe itll pop up

      • Pipercat

        Cool, I’ll send a copy to your watch commander.

      • Bine646

        Love the threats- do it

      • Pipercat

        Oooh threats- such a big word.

      • Bine646

        Not really, its only 7 letters? Go to bed kid- school comes early tomorrow

      • Pipercat

        – Fraud.

      • Bine646

        Go to sleep child, I hear your mother coming

      • Pipercat

        Now ad mominems. You’re a dandy.

      • Bine646

        ad mominems? hardly- dont get upset

      • Pipercat

        Me- upset?

      • Bine646

        youre flustered

      • Pipercat

        You’re- projecting!

      • Bine646

        Don’t think you need the -. Weren’t you the nugget making fun of punctuation and grammar earlier? Now you are botching it? Classic

      • Pipercat

        What’s classic is making a fool out of- you! Hmm, making seems insufficient. Making then exacerbating a fool like you.

      • Bine646

        Again your opinion is not reality- you’ll figure that out soon kid.

      • white trash religious teaparty

        im wagering biney has never heard ( or witnessed ) a woman coming

      • Bine646

        Move on loser- stop following me around. Its getting pathetic- you are 60

      • Adam

        “Mall cop” isn’t law enforcement. Sorry to burst your bubble.

      • Bine646

        Mall cops are not carrying glock .40s. Sorry to burst your bubble

      • white trash religious teaparty

        funny! I cram that upon rightwing regressives all the time!!
        we are getting closer!

      • white trash religious teaparty

        brain? Hmmmmm,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Viagra and vodka and bible maybe

      • white trash religious teaparty

        wow– fred flintstone carries his lunch with him…
        larry lunchbucket? tommy timecard??

      • white trash religious teaparty

        biney boy has a lunch with him???? lunch??? brown bagged?
        seems tommy timecard/larry lunchbucket has to work for someone else

      • Bine646

        You have something against making your own food now Jenner? Arent you a line cook at a strip club?

      • white trash religious teaparty

        my ( 5 at two locations in browrd county) line cooks are in (YES!!) adult strip clubs. Im the owner ( contractually; not physically) of the 2 kitchens. Funny how kikes always denigrate anything they don’t like,,,so lets play together!!! Im the dishwasher!!! ( still CLEARED– no tax /100% cash income) 114K in 2013. my passive residual income from 1 commercial and 1 residential property accumulates along with capital gains from stock/options to satiate uncle sams infernal revenue service( yes; in F ernal). ergo- im the happiest and possibly the highest paid POTWASHER on the planet.
        you ‘work’ for someone else? sounds promising. and highly specialized ( ooops; I fibbed)

      • Bine646

        you are bragging about 114k off of two kitchens? Wow you are rich hahahahahha. Please, stop following me around- ur a 60 yr old guy, start acting like one.

      • white trash religious teaparty

        he drives? with jesus statue on dash

      • NYJOEYB

        Actually, I come here to read what big pussies like you try to say about issues you are far too ignorant to understand. Please continue…..

      • Bine646

        Come hear? Easy queerbate, back to grade school, you cant spell

      • NYJOEYB

        Ask your whore mother….

      • Bine646

        Strong rebuttal hahahaha

      • white trash religious teaparty

        yeah,,,, that was lame: kinda like the small rightwing crybaby GIAN KEYS in california

      • Bine646

        go troll someone else Bruce

      • white trash religious teaparty

        queerbate?
        sounds like U never left grade school,,,and are typical of intolerant white trash regressive tea party religious scum

      • white trash religious teaparty

        transposing your nugatory “life” upon others again???

      • white trash religious teaparty

        seems like bine (again) needs a diaper change
        silly liberal progressives!!! bullying the crybabies

      • white trash religious teaparty

        bine is correct,,,,,,,,,,,,,
        regressive tea party trash give lachrymose comments and waste taxpayer money TRYING to destroy constitution
        praise jeeeeeeeeeesus

      • rally2xs

        I go to a lotta bars and don’t drink at all. Lots of people I meet there don’t either, as we’re all there to play poker. The bar people are hoping we’ll order something, so we do – diet coke and cheeseburgers. But there’s no earthly reason we shouldn’t be able to deal with a mugger or rapist in the parking lot if it comes to that.

      • Pipercat

        I went to a bar recently to watch some football. I don’t drink, but the crowd got rowdy. I see the threats before me, not the potential ones that are rare to say the least.

      • Sunny Ray

        Sounds paranoiac… Are you WANTED for something?

      • Bine646

        you should of read the constitution before immigrating

      • white trash religious teaparty

        and the bill of rights,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
        no religion ( assuredly NOT Christianity) mentioned
        freedom OF religion. freedom FROM religion.
        aca and abortion constitutional…..

        ( except for tea party scum)

      • rally2xs

        I’ve probably went into bars about 40 times already this year, and didn’t drink anything alcoholic even once. They have poker in there, and pool. But I shouldn’t be able to protect myself or anyone I care about just because it happens to be a bar, eh? Well… I just disagree with that.

      • Pipercat

        The question is, what about the other patrons?

      • rally2xs

        Yeah, what about them? One of the bars where I play poker had their bouncer killed by a shooter after he threw someone out. The criminal came back and shot him from a moving car. I wish the bouncer had had a gun. I wish the shooter knew he had a gun, and so might not have attempted this in the 1st place.

      • Pipercat

        That’s the bouncer, not a patron. Moreover, many places here use off duty police for security.

      • rally2xs

        The point is that the patron that was thrown out didn’t have a gun in the bar, he had it in his car. So, how’s such a law, that disarms the victim only, going to help anything?

      • Pipercat

        Well, alcohol and guns don’t mix. A drive by shooting killed the bouncer. Unless the bouncer was wearing armor, being heeled meant he was dead, armed.

      • white trash religious teaparty

        they mix if U are a regressive tea party “libertarian”

      • TheRealSocialmedic

        . . . Redneck.

      • white trash religious teaparty

        so sorry crybaby: Im from coral gables florida– we are NOT rednecks: we are erudite and tanned; flowing and sexual– with no voodoo hindrances such as superstition ( see: religion) or little dicked losers such as gian keys.
        you; on the other hand— under educated and financially broke; anatomically incorrect and bereft of true female companionship
        …….the audience remains laughing!!

      • TheRealSocialmedic

        Being erudite and carrying guns into bars is an oxymoron. Right wing anti-intellectualism is the reaction of the ineducability of right wing fascists to their flailing attempts at becoming educated — it is pure jealousy of the educated, in the way German Nazis were jealous of the intellectual Jews. Most people who are worth their salt these days, intellectually, ARE financially broke because in an anti-intellectual Nazi right wing country that dumbs down the public and rises idiocy to virtue, the only people who HAVE money are Nazis and theives. As for lacking in female companionship I am MOST grateful as I am a female and not at all inclined to being attracted to other females – and a female who has attended graduate school at Harvard which has saddled me with six figures in student loan debt. So thanks to my OVER-education I am broke in a country that is supposedly the richest nation in the world and yet is to GOD DAMNED CHEAP to educate its own citizens. I certainly do not need to take crap from a cheap shallow ignorant uneducated nazi right wing fascist bar maid with a gun from the bible belt. Good day.

      • white trash religious teaparty

        hey chumly—————– (A) I don’t carry a gun nor do I populate a bar; I do not drink. (b) im a liberal centrist who HATES rightwing trash- (c) I do NOT live in the BIBLR BELT( but have sadly lived there on BUSINESS 3 separate times) I live in pompano beach FL,,,,, (note: todays weather was glorious at 75 degrees with a slight sw wind whilst I was at beach with my pictured lady) (D) bar maid? actually close than U would luckily get as I am a self employed CHEF who has had the dubious pleasure of entering the delightfully buxom bodies of countless females here in sunny south florida.
        ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, care to further your “over education” by writing more oligophreniality in describing moi???
        epilogue— please re-attend Harvard to learn to spell such intricate lexicon such as THIEVES
        ======================================
        the audience is stoked with cataplexic jocularity

      • cezook

        Maybe a law that disarms the shooter too?

      • cezook

        What are you so afraid of ?

      • 2Smart2bGOP

        So because you can make the claim of rationality, everyone else will just follow your excellent example? Doubtful. I used to tend bar, and for every one reasonable, sober customer like you, I had four drunken idiots. Not a good ratio. Would never work in or patronize a bar that allowed firearms, and that’s from someone who used to spend five-six nights a week for about four years in them.

      • TheRealSocialmedic

        What is rational about speeding half your life in a bar playing pool?

      • 2Smart2bGOP

        You seem to have comprehension problems; read my post again. I. Used. To. Tend. Bar. I don’t play pool, and I don’t even drink. I was working, and working hard. Earning a living, or trying to. Sound rational enough now?

      • rally2xs

        Those that _legally_ carry firearms are an exceptionally level-headed group, moreso than average. However, those that _illegally_ carry firearms are already in that bar anyway, so what’s the difference?

        If the rules say that CCW holders that are carrying can’t drink, they mostly won’t, or won’t do it to the point that they’re affected. Exceptions to every rule, of course, but if they’ll break those rules, they’ll also probably carry without a permit, too.

        I’m just against making a gun available to thieves while it sits in a car. I’ve been ripped off so often for things in my car that I’ve lost count, but believe it is in the range of 10 – 20. I only got control of that with the “messy car defense” where everything worth stealing I put underneath coats and newspapers I had in the car, to hide them. The break-ins then stopped, ‘cuz the bad guys couldn’t see my radios and other stuff that was in the car. A newspaper sitting on the dash that droops over the expensive in-dash radio isn’t that unusual, and hides the radio. But most people don’t know this stuff, and their cars will be broken into for the radio, but the thief will also find the gun. Just what we don’t need.

      • TheRealSocialmedic

        You have nothing better to do with your time? There are American kids out there struggling to get through college, running up massive debts and don’t even have time to call their parents. And all you can do with your freedom is play poker and pool? What a waste.

  • Jerry Graybosch

    I expect any bar that does not prohibit guns (except for law enforcement personnel) will not be able to buy liability insurance.

    • TheRealSocialmedic

      Good Point.

  • white trash religious teaparty

    let the gun cronies shoot each other,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,less regressive religious rightwing scum around

  • FD Brian

    I hear they are going to make it a law that if you dance with a woman in a bar, you will have to be cousins to each other.

  • MLR

    Well I’m for it and I’ll tell you why. These people need to find out on their own how bad these laws are. The more that people lose loved ones to gun violence, the more they might realize that maybe stricter gun laws are needed and if not, well I don’t live there so if they don’t care why should I? As a progressive I’m tired of being insulted every time I try to have a reasonable debate about anything with the right. There is no way to reason with the far right because all they do is resort to insults. They need to find out on their own what a bad idea this law is and all the rest of us can do is pray for the innocent.

  • Kristinfan413years

    seriously?

  • TheRealSocialmedic

    Solution. Don’t go to bars in South Carolina. In fact, if you want a vacation why not go to Paris, France? It will cost less and you won’t have a bunch of ignoramuses expecting you to ogle the big fat babies that come out of their big fat anuses. Even the English in Paris will be more understandable. Let the morons get so bored with having nobody to shoot at that they shoot each other. Then the land might have some value.

    • Pipercat

      Cannes, instead of Paris. I hear there isn’t as much dog shit on the streets there..

      • TheRealSocialmedic

        Cannes is an excellent choice and a great place to take your dog as dogs are allowed everywhere, even on mass transit and in restaurants.

      • Pipercat

        No worries here, I have cats!

  • charleo1

    A few years ago a comedian made a joke about a pro baseball team that
    was having a bad run of attendance, and suggested they have a hard
    liquor, and handgun night! It was a funnier joke back then.

  • Albert Buchheit

    The bill plainly says you cannot drink and carry. It is the author of this article who “assumes” the law will not be followed. With this same type of thinking it negates any law anyone wants passed to curb gun violence.

  • Justaguest

    While I can clearly understand the concerns people have about brining a firearm into a bar, I believe it clearly works the other way too. Everyone says; “I don’t want some drunk guy pulling out a gun when I’m trying to enjoy myself with my friends while we have a few drinks”. Well I don’t want that either. But, as the author noted about drunk driving, people make stupid decisions and don’t follow all laws. If drinking and driving had a mandatory 1 year in prison first offense imagine how many people would stop. That being said, there are still plenty of people who are going to take firearms with them to places they are not allowed. Mainly criminals mind you, but I’m sure there are regular patrons at small town bars that bring their firearms there in other states anyway. Back to the drunk guy pulling a gun. People get stupid when drunk. How many rapes and assaults happen because people can’t relax and use reason when intoxicated? Violence happens in bars, it just does. And usually most places have some kind of security. But a lot don’t too. A very real and threatening situation can occur instantly, and honestly I would want my firearm on me
    (as a last resort as always) option. It terrifies me that I can’t take my firearm into any bars when I go to Philadelphia with friends. That city has a large murder rate. So in conclusion here, I get it. But just try to imagine things from the other perspective. Would I ever support it? I don’t know. It makes me uneasy also. However, 95% carry permit holders are just regular people like all of us too. They just believe in the absolute right to defend their life, thats all.