Pat Robertson to Ken Ham: It’s ‘Just Nonsense’ to Believe Earth is Only 6,000 Years Old

cbn-robertsonIn the world of radical religious beliefs, you know you’re pretty “out there” if even Pat Robertson (the guy who’s said natural disasters could be God’s wrath for supporting gay rights) is essentially calling you delusional.

Well, that’s basically what happened – Pat Robertson said that Ken Ham’s belief that the age of the Earth is about 6,000 years old is “just nonsense.”

Robertson said of Ham’s beliefs:

“Let’s face it, there was a bishop who added up the dates listed in Genesis and he came up with the world had been around for 6,000 years.  There ain’t no way that’s possible.  To say that it all came about in 6,000 years is just nonsense and I think it’s time we come off of that stuff and say this isn’t possible.

We’ve got to be realistic that the dating of Bishop Ussher just doesn’t comport with anything that’s found in science, and you can’t just totally deny the geological formations that are out there.”

While he’s right, it’s just a little funny to me that the guy who’s spewed all sorts of nonsense over the years is suddenly citing science as the reason why Mr. Ham’s beliefs aren’t valid.

Especially when you consider that Mr. Robertson once said:

“I would warn Orlando that you’re right in the way of some serious hurricanes, and I don’t think I’d be waving those flags [gay pride flags] in God’s face if I were you, This is not a message of hate, this is a message of redemption.  But a condition like this will bring about the destruction of your nation.  It’ll bring about terrorist bombs; it’ll bring earthquakes, tornadoes, and possibly a meteor.”

These two actually have a history.  A couple of years ago, Ham said Robertson was encouraging his followers to be “led astray” and that his ideas were “destructive teaching within the church.”

Which is something I won’t disagree with either.  While I’m by no means a fan of Ken Ham, and I feel his beliefs are absolutely ridiculous, Pat Robertson isn’t exactly someone I would call sane either.  Both of these men are obviously on the extremely radical end of the “Christian” spectrum.  Which is why it was a bit surprising to see Robertson cite science to discredit Ham’s beliefs.

But I do think this shows you just how radical Ham’s views really are.  If you haven’t gotten a chance to check out the debate he had with Bill Nye, I would highly recommend it.  Though at times it can be hard to watch Ham spout off his nonsense, I felt this debate was a great example of a scientist using fact after fact to debate someone whose argument literally consisted of two things:

  • How can you be certain when that was created?  You weren’t there.
  • Well, the Bible says…

Seriously, that was it.  Which in itself is somewhat ironic considering Nye used scientific testing methods to support his side (methods that have been proven over years to be valid means at which to determine certain information), yet Ham would continually say something along the lines of, “Well, were you there?  Then you can’t prove it.  You’re just assuming.”

Yet when it came to him “proving” something he would literally say, “Well, the Bible says…” as his “proof.”  Though he has absolutely no evidence of who wrote the Bible – he simply assumes what’s in it is 100% factual.

Robertson’s comments proved to be a least somewhat humorous.  Not because of any particular thing he said (this time anyway), but because it’s interesting to see someone I consider to be extremely radical with his religious views to actually identify someone who might be even more radical than he is.

But then reality kind of sets in.  I realize that while Ham’s belief that the Earth is only 6,000 year old sounds insane, millions of people actually believe this “nonsense.”  And that’s a pretty terrifying thought.

Allen Clifton

Allen Clifton is a native Texan who now lives in the Austin area. He has a degree in Political Science from Sam Houston State University. Allen is a co-founder of Forward Progressives and creator of the popular Right Off A Cliff column and Facebook page. Be sure to follow Allen on Twitter and Facebook, and subscribe to his channel on YouTube as well.

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  • Mike Williams

    “Clash Of The Theists”

    This is why we need Kentucky to start churning out scientists.
    Perhaps ANN could get a job doing that…Churning out scientists.
    (refer to M. Bachmann posts)

  • Sunnysmom

    Robertson’s like “Back off Ham, the position of bat-shit crazy religious nut job TV personality has already been filled.” lol

  • BobLoblaw

    It is interesting when 2 people of the same religion cannot even believe in the same thing.

    • Skyhollower

      It is very amusing, Plus Ham and the Bishop go on the assumption especially when considering Genesis, that God created everything in 6 days and rested on the 7th. Whose to say how God Judges Time. To an omnipotent being time doesn’t really matter. A day to God could be billions of years to us. Maybe he created everything in 6 days and the 7th day of rest was the next 3.9 billion years. As far as the Bible’s timeline after Genesis it could be 6000 years. Who knows, was Mr. Ham there?…He sure seems to think he knows.

    • Jim Bean

      Unwavering commonality of beliefs exists only in the outer perimeter of the left wing.

  • Dustin Neumann

    I find it refreshing. We can only move one step at a time. And i think this is a huge step. Robertson has a HUGEEEEEE following !
    If only 25% of them take this comment to heart. It may make for that many more people that are willing to be versed in science as well . You can’t knock over dominoes that are already laying down.
    This is a huge upright domino that can take a lot more people with it. We need to get Pat into a debate now. Show we would rather try again with someone who is willing to listen and learn (even if only a little bit) Then keep kicking the same dead horses around.

    • white trash religious teaparty

      and draining the finances of the non thinking lemmings

  • white trash religious teaparty

    have patience my fellow humans,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, the disgusting religions are slowly collapsing: we as THINKING mankind are sick of the VOODOO/superstition and the control mechanisms forced upon the weak willed lemmings to softly empty their wallets. GOD is simply the order of what is—- no deity man made to fit a smallish ( and local) agenda.
    want proof?? Fire ants…. eating animal livers and non-medical BOOOOOB-JOBS. would a benevolent GOd stick us with THAT crap??

  • Gary Menten

    Amusing, but not very important. These two clowns differ only on the age of the Earth. On every other issue, they are on the same page; that the universe was created by God, that Christ is everybody’s saviour, that marriage is between one man and one woman…the list goes on. Robertson is dangerous because he has a huge following on television and has been milking it an manipulating it for years while Ham is dangerous because he has just enough education in science to make it sound to the layman like he knows what he is talking about when he criticizes science. But make no mistake; both these clowns are snake-oil salesmen who’d put aside their minor differences if it meant they could bamboozle us more effectively.

    • Jim Bean

      What makes it important is that it becomes a burr in the saddle of Liberals seeking to discredit religious people en masse by pointing at a few that hold preposterous perspectives. That’s why the author felt it necessary to discredit the guy who was discrediting Ham.

      • Gary Menten

        Wrong. The fact that this is being seized upon is purely do to the nature of the deep political rifts in America. Had some well-known figure in the scientific community, Neil deGrasse Tyson or Richard Dawkins gone on television a day or two after the debate and criticized Nye’s position on something, the clowns at Fox would have been all over the story.

      • Jim Bean

        Well what does it say to you that they haven’t come to Ham’s defense?

      • Gary Menten

        Nothing really. Philosophically, the clowns at Fox, Robertson and Ham are all on the same page, wanting to turn America into a Christian theocracy. They differ only on the the age of the world. Ham’s evidence for the claim of 6000 years is frankly laughable, and very easy to knock down.
        Fox’s viewership takes very little interest in science and would much rather listen to O’Reilly, Hannity, and company attack the president or (insert Democrat of choice here) than listen to them present scientific evidence which half of them won’t believe anyway because it conflicts with their religious beliefs.

  • Pipercat

    Pat should know, he’s at least 6001 years old!!!!