President Obama Perfectly Mocks Over 5 Years of Republican Propaganda and Obstruction

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Image credit MANDEL NGAN/AFP/Getty Images

If I’ve said it once, I’ve said it a thousand times – this is the President Obama I want to see more often.  The guy who stands there, with a little attitude in his voice, calling out Republican lies and propaganda.

Which is exactly what he did while speaking in Minneapolis when he said, “They don’t do anything except block me and call me names.”

“They’ve decided to sue me for doing my job,” Obama said.

He continued, “If you’re mad at me for helping people on my own then join me and we’ll do it together.  I want to work with you, but you gotta give me something. You gotta try to deliver something.  Anything.”

Now I get that at one point he had this lofty goal of being this great uniter of sorts.  In fact, I honestly believe starting out his presidency in 2009 he fully intended to work with Republicans to try to bring this country together after 8 years of Bush policies tore us apart.

But the tea party wasn’t going to have anything to do with working with our nation’s first African American president.  And while they might deny that his race has anything to do with it, they’re full of crap.

It’s high time he stops trying desperately to work with these obstructionists and spends more time calling them out on their nonsense so that hopefully more people realize what’s been going on.

Because no matter what he does, they’re never going to work with him.

We’ve seen the least productive Congress in United States history.  

But even if they wanted to, they couldn’t.  They’ve spent the last 5+ years selling their propaganda that any Republican who might dare work with President Obama is essentially a traitor to the United States.  He could give them 80 percent of what they wanted on an issue, and whichever Republicans sided with him would be immediately bashed by the tea party as R.I.N.O’s.

Rachel Maddow recently pointed out a pathetic trend conservatives have followed these last few years.  They’ll go on record suggesting that Obama do something concerning a particular issue, and on some of the issues where he’s does almost exactly what they said he should do, then (because that’s what he did) they criticize him for it.

It’s absolute insanity.

We’ve had several members of Congress doubt Obama’s citizenship.  We’ve had even more of them frequently call for his impeachment.  They’ve peddled this rhetoric about him ruling like a king because he dares to use whatever power he has to actually get something done – because they damn sure aren’t going to do anything.

It’s been one lie after another with Republicans doing whatever they can to label everything a “scandal.”  It’s like Alan Colmes recently pointed out when he said, “Republicans want everything to be a scandal.  Benghazi is not a scandal, Benghazi was a tragedy. The IRS isn’t is scandal.  The problem Republicans have is that you’re calling everything a scandal. When something comes up that really does deserve that, people don’t pay attention. Everything has been a scandal.”

And for too long President Obama has tried to play the nice guy.  Well, enough is enough.

I say President Obama should spend the next 2+ years calling out every bit of right-wing propaganda and lies these bums are peddling.  Because it’s clear they’re never going to work with him.  It’s about time he stops letting them control the message.


Allen Clifton

Allen Clifton is a native Texan who now lives in the Austin area. He has a degree in Political Science from Sam Houston State University. Allen is a co-founder of Forward Progressives and creator of the popular Right Off A Cliff column and Facebook page. Be sure to follow Allen on Twitter and Facebook, and subscribe to his channel on YouTube as well.

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  • Avatar

    Eventually the moment would come to this where Democrats seriously need to wake up and vote in midterm elections to severely punish Republicans. We outnumbered them by 3-1 yet we allow them to control the fate of United States. This need to change. Obama is tired of them and is having enough of their immature behaviors.

    • Bine646

      The country is tired of Obama- thats why he has a 40% approval rating- ouchhhhhh

      • Sean Libecco

        That is still higher than georgie jrs 2% rating.

      • Bine646

        think you need to check that 2% but Obama never had the 90% approval rating the Bush enjoyed for over a yr.

      • RealAmericanPatriot

        It was America that had that Approval rating. Americans were rooting for America,and leader of America, the POTUS, GWB just happened to be our president at that time, it was not George who America approved of but whomever held the office of the POTUS. We would have supported any president.

      • Bine646

        So Americans supported war overwhelmingly only to have that change a few years later? Interesting

      • RealAmericanPatriot

        Well I believe the word is actually FACTUAL.

      • Stephen Barlow

        As soon as they found out Bush and Cheney manufactured LIES to sell them this war and killed and maimed their children with them.

      • Peter

        Bush the War Criminal had 90% because he inherited a good situation. Obama could not reach those numbers because the biggest disgrace (Bush) ruined this country.

      • Bine646

        Bush actually reached that number after September 11th- but you did not look up his approval rating which was soaring into 2003 now did you?

      • Pehr Smith

        WOW GENIUS!!! “MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!!!” Now tell us how he lost the white house to the other party over the next two elections and ran the country into the toilet before he bailed a chicken hawk war criminal?

      • Bine646

        Well Obama has done a super job at not only crushing our economy but putting us into more debt. Debt held by the Federal Reserve when Bush left office was 400 billion. Its now over 2.4 trillion- he has quadruplied our debt there while increasing the debt held by the public by over 100%

      • Avatar

        Wow you clearly lied to us. You completely whitewashed Bush’s debt numbers. Do you realize that Cheney and his goons worked 24/7 to keep true debt off the clock for last three years of W. Bush’s presidency. And Obama’s budget plan didn’t get started until November of 2009, 11 months into his first year of presidency, the debt exploded during summer of 2009 largely thanks to W. Bush and Cheney’s budget plans.

      • Bine646

        The numbers are from FRED and the bureau of statistics- got argue with them

        Economy is crashing at the rate of the09 recession- that Bushs fault too? Haha you cannot swallow your pride n realize how bad of a job he has done. Your part of the 40% who cannot do that n its incredible

      • Stephen Barlow

        Bureau of Labor Statistics?

      • Bine646

        go do some research and learn something, reading your opinions and emotional responses is annoying

      • Stephen Barlow

        When the TRUTH came out!!!

      • Stephen Barlow

        Bush left office with 10.7 TRILLION in debt and a 2.4 TRILLION dollar DEFICIT budget annually.

        Obama has reduced the yearly budget deficit by more than 50%, and the debt is only increasing because of INTEREST DUE on Bush’s share ofthe debt.

        Most of which, BTW, is owed to AMERICANS!! Via retirement fund holdings of treasuries and other Domestic investments.

      • Bine646

        Um no, no he did not, you are 100% wrong. You just make things up huh? Obama ran the biggest deficit in history, w over a trillion for 5 yrs, we are now buried in debt w the economy crashing at a rate seen in the 09 recession

      • Stephen Barlow

        The economy has broken 17 records since the Bush Bottom of 7700 DOW. It has doubled, productivity has been rising from pre Bush Collapse levels and Businesses have been reporting RECORD profits for 4 years straight. 53 of 54 straight quarters of job growth. DESPITE Boehner’s REFUSAL to floor 40 jobs bills for a vote. All he has, and that in 2011 only, are 27 tax break and subsidy bills for mega corporations and small businesses.

        Which have been making RECORD profits ever since…without them being passed by the Senate or signed by the White House.

        i really appreciate you being such a lying idiot #646. I get to vent AND hone My debate skills for a discussion with a living breathing human mind.

        Thanx.

      • Bine646

        Economy is crashing at a rate of the great recession in 09. Plus Bush is gone, move on. Corporations are seeing record profits, up 184% while citizens have increased debt n weekly earning raises of .2% over the same period.

        The bond markets inflated by the feds, who announced prior to the 3% decline news that itd be throttling back buying bonds bc the economy was improving. Guess that wont be happening

        As for job bills, Reid has killed acouple my friend

      • Stephen Barlow

        One quarter, down 2.9% is NOT a crash, it’s business as usual for over 100 YEARS average!

        All the indicators are up, and have been for half a decade!!

        WHICH jobs bills actually came back from the House WITHOT a ACA repeal attached?

        HUMNN! Time for some truth from you for once.

      • Bine646

        Are you kidding me? You have to be joking right?

      • Stephen Barlow

        Are we losing 500 points a day, 2000 points a week on the DOW? NOOOOOO!!!

        Are we losing SEVEN HUNDRED FIFTY THOUSAND jobs a month? NOOOOO!!!!

        ARE 9 MILLION people being foreclosed into HOMELESSNESS a year? NOOOOO!!!!!

        you are kidding ? RIGHT?

        BTW, which REPUBLICAN JOBS BILL?

        Certainly not the 27 TAXCUTS during a depression…

      • Bine646

        The stock market is a record heights- do you think that will last? Economists are not so certain. The bond market is artificially inflated by our government, the stock market balances on this influx of money, which the feds have stated will stop soon bc the economy is recovering- which it isn’t.

        The housing crisis is now owned by the government- thats great too.

        You keep running to these “bills”. We have seen what bills such as the stimulus have done for America- nothing. Bill Clinton worked with the republican controlled congress and balanced the books- why can’t obama?

        we have record spending in this country with nothing to show for it

      • Stephen Barlow

        Obama HALVED the deficit budget cREATED FROM SURPLUS BY Bush. In less than 1000 days.

      • Bine646

        You are 100% wrong- you do not believe what you are typing do you? Obama is just reaching the budget deficit that Bush had in his last term, around 400 billion. Obama has ran a deficit over a trillion for 5 years- are you retarded Stephen? Makes sense bc you seem to not work- collecting social security?

      • Stephen Barlow

        The Economy was headed to DEFAULT and DEPRESSION. Obama almost dingle handedly KEPT the WORLD from another 1930’s style fiscal destruction. Within 90 days, he had the market stabilized . And had not the REDS STAGNATED the economy with austerity to counter their failure to regulate and obstructionism to politicize every possible proven corrective economic measure, we would have been where we are 4 years earlier.

        But they could not stand a BLACK Harvard scholarship student solving the once in a century Republican economic failure within 500 days. So they sabotaged every American citizen, even their own base, to cover their asses.

        To this day, not ONE Republican has taken responsibility for their actions during the last decade… Nor ONE acknowledgement.

        All they spew is propaganda and outright lies about how this started and why it hasn’t been solved.

        Take some “Individual Responsibility” for THAT!

      • strayaway

        Since becoming President, President Obama has borrowed an average of $53,600 for every household in the US. The median US household income (for 2011) was $50,502 for comparison. I could do amazing things for my personal household income if I borrowed $53,600 too; probably more than the $53,600 Obama spent on my behalf and billed mostly to my children. The problem, in either case, is paying it back. Look, I’ll cover this problem with $6.5T of borrowed money. Abracadabra! Problem all gone or at least until the $6.5T comes due. You are easily impressed. Problems postponed are still problems.

      • Stephen Barlow

        SO Bush must have borrowed close to $80,000 per household! Oh My bad, there were 11 MILLION more households BEFORE the BUSH RECESSION and mortgage scam foreclosed on them…

        But since none of that $10.7 TRILLION was for interest on Obama’s borrowing…

        And 1/2 of Obama’s borrowing IS for BUSH’s ACCRUED interest…

        AND more than $1 Trillion was invested to STOP the free falling,750,000 jobs lost per month, uncontrollable CRASH of the Bush FAILURE Economy of scam mortgages, no oversight and BETTING ON THEM TO FAIL FOR PROFIT…

        which leaves about $2 Trillion to pay for the extended war Bush leveraged the Nation into and the OTHER war Bush leveraged us into and all the necessary social welfare the oh so successful Bush redistribution of wealth made necessary for 40 million people.

      • strayaway

        Do you have sources for the $80,000 number and the imaginative and your claim “1/2 of Obama’s borrowing IS for BUSH’s ACCRUED interest…” you made up? Since Bush borrowed less than Obama, my offhand observation is that whatever Bush borrowed has to be less than the the $53,600/family debt Obama has given us to put a bandaid on the economy. Why do you keep bringing up Bush anyway. He hasn’t been president for 6.5 years. Why not just shut down most federal government housing programs to avoid these catastrophes? The federal government has no constitutionally delegated power to operate such programs anyway. Did I ever mention to you that on Christmas Eve, 2009 when everyone was distracted, that President Obama snuck a huge present into the bankers stockings? He transferred bad paper at full face value from the banks to Freddie (taxpayers) and we got stuck with those underwater loans. How nice was that? Merry Christmas Goldman-Sachs and to all a good night.

      • Stephen Barlow

        A) simple math, based on your #’s:

        “I could do amazing things for my personal household income if I borrowed $53,600 too; probably more than the $53,600 Obama spent on my behalf and billed mostly to my children. The problem, in either case, is paying it back. Look, I’ll cover this problem with $6.5T of borrowed money.”

        If 6.5T = 53,600 per household than 10.7T =
        (10.7/6.5 = 1.646. Multiply 53,600 x 1.646 = $My BAD!

        $88,233.85. Rounded to the nearest penny.

        ALL OF WHICH Obama is paying interest on as we speak. SO DEDUCT that 5.5 years of interest on BUSH’s debt and add it in to the Bush Legacy DEBT… $90K per VS $51 K

        The deduct the stimulus REQUITED to stabilize the economy Bush IMPLODED like a red Giant star… $91K…$50K CARRIED INTEREST makes $92/$49… and next year $95/$47….

        B) An unarmed man should NEVER engage in a battle of wits with a guy with a Big Iron on his hip!

      • strayaway

        A major shortfall in your math is that Obama has already surpassed the amount of debt accumulated by Bush although he has 2.5 years to go. The $10.7T number you are using is all debt accumulated since George Washington. Bush accumulated about half of that ($5.85T from my source). The national debt is now $17.788T. In other words, Obama ran the debt up over $7T in 6.5 years while Bush ran it up $5.85 in 8 years.

      • Stephen Barlow

        Show your work “Einstein!”

      • Stephen Barlow

        SOurce the DEBT since CLINTON delivered a $200 Billion SURPLUS!!!!! to Bush on Jan 20, 2001?

      • Bine646

        From working with the republican controlled congress- why can’t Obama seem to work with congress?

      • Stephen Barlow

        You MUST start with honest #’s to derive an honest conclusion!

      • Stephen Barlow

        YOu are SO unarmed.

      • Stephen Barlow

        The WHY was the debt $10.7T when Bush went to Crawford to hide?

      • Stephen Barlow

        to quote you, 100% wrong.

      • Stephen Barlow

        LIE #1, Bush borrowed TWICE what the Current Congress has. obama had ZERO power to generate revenue. Get your Mom to explain the Constitution to you.!!

      • strayaway

        What on earth are you talking about? Bush borrowed $5.85T over eight years. Obama borrowed over $7T over six and a half years. In either case, Congress was an accessory to these crimes against our children.

      • Bine646

        Our federal reserves debt has quadrupled under Obama- debt held by the public up nearly 100%. You gotta learn the facts my man. The Obama administration has limited the press core to a select few, no wonder you are believing their lies

      • Stephen Barlow

        Lie # 2. Bush’s criminal misconduct in office was the seed of the tree he nutured that Obama has to prune now.

      • strayaway

        Six and a half years in, we still have high unemployment even among people still looking for work even after adding another $7T of debt. Time to look for someone else to blame.

      • Stephen Barlow

        Lie # 3. The housing programs ARE NOT the problem. ALLOWING mortgage lenders to bet on the failure of their OWN MORTGAGES is!!!

      • strayaway

        I didn’t say they were “the problem”. They are a problem; one of many . What I noted was that the Constitution does not delegate such powers to the federal government. Perhaps Congress should not have forced lenders to provide loans to unqualified borrowers to address racial problems among other errors.

      • Stephen Barlow

        Ignorance # ONE!!!

        “he federal government has no constitutionally delegated power to operate such programs anyway.”

        Article ONE, Section 8, Clause 18:

        To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, (NUFF SAID?)
        and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States… (or in any Department or Officer thereof.

        OR IN ANY DEPARTMENT (Agency)…

      • strayaway

        Be specific. Where did you find the delegated power to create huge housing and lending programs in the Constitution? Before laws are made to carrying a power into execution, there has to be such a delegated power. If the power isn’t listed, it belongs to the States or the people according to the 10th Amendment. Nothing wrong with that. North Dakota, for instance gave away interest free student loans until Obama nationalized the student loan programs. Most delegated powers are listed in Article 1, Section 7. Amending the Constitution allowed such thing as the Federal Income tax and prohibition laws that were not delegated. Since Roosevelt, of course, the 10th Amendment is pretty much ignored as we become more and more of a banana republic.

      • Stephen Barlow

        LIE #4:

        Dec 24,2009

        A) WHICH Executive order was that?

        B) you sure that was only the signing of a bill into law that CONGRESS VOTED ON?

        “Washington (CNN) — The Senate passed a historic $871 billion health care reform bill Thursday morning, handing President Obama a Christmas Eve victory on his top domestic priority.

        The bill passed in a 60-39 party line vote after months of heated partisan debate. Every member of the Democratic caucus backed the measure; every Republican opposed it.

        Republican Sen. Jim Bunning of Kentucky — a staunch opponent of the bill — was the lone senator to miss Thursday’s vote.

        Should it become law, the measure would constitute the biggest expansion of federal health care guarantees since the enactment of Medicare and Medicaid more than four decades ago. It is expected to extend insurance coverage to 30 million additional Americans.

        “We are now finally poised to deliver on the promise of real, meaningful health insurance reform that will bring additional security and stability to the American people,” Obama said shortly after the vote.

        “If passed, this will be the most important piece of social legislation since the Social Security Act passed in the 1930s.”

        The bill now must be merged with a $1 trillion plan approved by the House of Representatives in November. Democrats hope to have a bill ready for Obama’s signature before the president’s State of the Union address early next year.

        Senate Republicans failed to stop the bill despite utilizing almost every weapon in their legislative arsenal. GOP leaders have repeatedly warned the measure will raise taxes while doing little to slow spiraling health costs.”

        HOW does this ‘BLESS” bankers?

        Isn’t it more leading the insurance industry with 30 million potential carrots while GELDING THEM with :
        1) NO caps
        2) no pre existing conditions
        3) children on parents policies for an additional 5 years
        4) NO CANCELLATIONS for using the policy!!!

        BESIDES, it was VETOPROOF!!!

      • strayaway

        I don’t know. You will have to look it up. I really don’t have time to be arguing with idiots who are too lazy or stupid to do their own Google search. I have things to do. Your are confusing a comment I made about Obama’s present to bankers with the (un)ACA. Please try to focus.

      • Stephen Barlow

        NO news of what YOu were imagining? what EXECUTIVE Order was that again?

      • Bine646

        You spew ignorance- and its funny to watch you hit the caps button bc you get soooo mad hahahaha

      • Pipercat

        Congress borrowed 53,600. Assuming your numbers are correct.

      • Pehr Smith

        See you in the funny papers.
        MISSION ACCOMPLISHED.

      • Bine646

        Exactly Pehr you have nothing, another loss for Obama today with Hobby Lobby. MISSION IS FAILING

      • Stephen Barlow

        War fever? Certainly NOT ‘actual MISSION ACCOMPLISHED’

        It’s been 4050 days since the mission was so publicly accomplished.

      • JeriLynn Dringenberg

        While Obama may have an approval rating of 40% congress has one of 12% so talk about ouch! Congress has been in the toilet for months….

      • Bine646

        Congress is comprised of two cabinets- one being the democratically controlled senate.

      • Peter

        And what has Congress done to help the country?? Absolutely nothing. The only thing they do is to repeal ACA when they don’t have the power to overturn anything. Do something different like work for the people instead of against them.

      • Bine646

        You do realize Congress is made up of the Senate and House. Senate is democratically controlled.

        As for the ACA, Bloomberg released a report this week showing premiums will increase in 2015 because those who enrolled have significant medical issues compared to the healthy who did not enroll. After the disastrous rollout and noone being held accountable- the American people should be calling for either its repeal or a great revision to the horrible bill

      • mikedirubioamericanborncitizen

        Democratically controlled Senate? A congress that is controlled by the teapublicans who have engaged in unprecidented obstruction! You’re an idiot and a troll!

      • Bine646

        Haha oh yeah- guess your party of the 44% of this ignorant nation who has no idea who controls which part of Congress- congratulations

      • Stephen Barlow

        His point is the word “control” A 41 vote minority to DENY WOUNDED Veteran’s Benefits and Healthcare is CONTROL.

      • Pam Burch Simpson

        I would also suspect that their wonderful SUPER MAJORITY has played a roll in obstruction!

      • Bine646

        I cant reply to your other post but who controlled Congress at the end of Bushs term? Exactly- you are not very bright huh. You seem to be just the caliber of intelligence that Obama exploited to get elected

      • Stephen Barlow

        And who vetoed much needed corrective legislation, SIGNED TARP and initiated the AUTO BAILOUT?

      • Toomuchcoffeeguy

        That’s total gibberish. The ACA is not insurance, so no one has enrolled in it.

      • Bine646

        The ACA has set guidelines on how insurance companies can structure policies- this eliminated policies for millions. After Obama stated, time n time again- “if you like your policy, you can keep it.”

      • Avatar

        My premium went up by $70 unde ACA ‘Obamacare/Romneycare’ and I’m fucking happy with it because no more lifetime cap, no more hassle from death panelists of health insurance corporations, and no more bills from hospital for my recent surgery. Translation; I fucking saved $7,000!

      • Stephen Barlow

        Good for you!

      • Bine646

        You are spewing emotions and not facts- you are the reason Obama was elected twice. He feeds on the ignorant

      • Stephen Barlow

        Like the Right to work, trailer trash racist Republicans that will vote for hillary in 2016, not what ever noodle the REDS throw at the ballot that sticks.

        YEAH RIGHT!

      • Avatar

        Ignorance isn’t even part of my virtue. I have my own opinions and Obama is definitely far more superior over McCain and Romney. If Obama were to faced against Republican’s version of Bill Clinton, he’d lose. But we both know that Republicans will never have any guy as capable as one of historically worst President, W. Bush anymore.

      • Charles Vincent

        YOU saved money but that doesn’t mean the majority of others did, that’s a false assumption on your part.

      • Avatar

        False assumption? I personally know many families and friends signed up for ACA did complained about rising cost but happier because it is favoring us over the corporate death panelists of health insurance.

      • Charles Vincent

        And I personally know many people that got shafted by the ACA and I happen to be one of them.

      • Avatar

        I don believe you about being shafted by ACA. Not a one bit. Do you know why? Your line are the exactly same as Karl Rove’s anti-ACA playbook. I’m not accusing you to be one of Rovian fascist robots. It’s because people who are completely against ACA are morally bankrupt and very predictable.

      • Charles Vincent

        https://www DOT youtube DOT com/watch?v=n_IODlKV4Ow

        “I don believe you about being shafted by ACA. Not a one bit. Do you know why? Your line are the exactly same as Karl Rove’s anti-ACA playbook.”

        Piss poor argument because it applies to you and your claims”

        “It’s because people who are completely against ACA are morally bankrupt and very predictable.”

        This is nothing more than;

        Moral high ground fallacy – in which one assumes a “holier-than-thou” attitude in an attempt to make oneself look good to win an argument.

        Do you actually have any facts or are you just arguing from emotion and wishful thinking?

      • Stephen Barlow

        Who WAS your carrier, what was you policy group and how much were you being scammed for?

        Without a simple truth, there can be no complicated one’s you incipiantly insufferable pseudo supplicant to the sewer sap spew of your rubber stamp existence.

      • Stephen Barlow

        NAMES!
        PHONE #’s
        VERIFICATION.

        I bet you didn’t know how to SPELL that until you had a chance to plagiarize it from Avatar.

      • Bine646

        Many names in this piece, google it.

        “Affordable Care Act not so affordable, some Hoosiers say

        By Maureen Groppe, Star Washington Bureau”

      • Stephen Barlow

        I know that 9/10 paid spokesperson examples featured on FUX News Reports actually BENEFITTED from the AAC Exchange options. Which directly and evidentiarily contradicts not only the deliberate deceptions by the Right, but the maliciously manufactured FUX Fiction as well.

      • Stephen Barlow

        Funny how REAL STATISTICS almost always prove you wrong, Chuck. I guess THAT is why you never EVER justify your blather with substance. only half quotes, carefully sculpted, edited, redacted and with copious omissions to relatively kinda sorta might posibbly in adrunken acid trip moment SEEM as if that “… OOPS…” you cite tangentially and lefthandedly may minimally supports part of your arguement.

        Kicking your ass in any debate can be done in a coma from a lounge chair welded to a submarine that is chasing Moby Dick.

      • Charles Vincent

        Keep blathering you still haven’t provided anything relevant.

      • Stephen Barlow

        The false assumption is that most did NOT save money. if that were true, healthcare costs wouldn’t have stagnated in comparison to the double and triple digit percentage rates they rose under Reagan, Bush and Bush. 10.7 is a triple digit rate, and it’s also 165% more than costs re rising now.

      • Charles Vincent

        And you still cant grasp the concept that the ACA is a gigantic gift basket to the insurance companies. Go read the bill it is its giant FU to the general populous, I hope you have some KY cause you’re going to need it when the insurance companies bend you over.

        https://www DOT govtrack DOT us/congress/bills/111/hr3590/text/enr

      • Stephen Barlow

        Never said it wasn’t. But it IS that because the Republicans REFUSED to consider a single payer system and Obama didn’t ACT like the CONQUERER he was in the 2008 war of words.

        The bill has cut cost increased, expanded coverage and helpped millions more than is allegedly harmed.
        By leaps and bounds.

        Let’s count the lives saved of NEW PPACA insurance customers.

      • Charles Vincent

        “AND as usual, you opinion of a fact is NOT TRUE. Most people did NOT pay
        more for insurance. And those that did, were gouged by the insurance
        companies because the Republicans left them out of the law.”

        Really where is YOUR proof of what you say?

        The cost of the ACA is going up.

        http://www DOT forbes DOT com/sites/brucejapsen/2014/06/24/even-with-sovaldi-and-aca-costs-health-inflation-to-rise-modest-6-8-in-2015/

        And it is projected by the government to keep going up through 2022 where healthcare spending will reach ~19.9% of GDP you are either blind or a total moron Stevie.

      • Stephen Barlow

        From your own ‘evidence’ (thank you for actually providing your own pitard this time Chuckduck) :

        “But researchers at PwC’s Health Research Institute say employer strategies to shift costs to workers through consumer-directed health plans, savvier health care shoppers generally and the increasing shift away from fee-for-service medicine should keep health inflation from jumping by double-digit percentages common in the late 1990s through much of the early 2000s.”

        So Employer costs will rise less than HALF of what was normal throughout the Bush Administration and the last 1/4 of Clinton…

        Sounds like LESS to Me.

        “As part of the PwC network, Strategy& will be a leading strategy firm in its own right and help PwC as a whole become the pre-eminent strategy-through-execution firm.

        What PwC and Strategy& create together will be unique. We’ll offer clients something they can’t get elsewhere: a combination of strategy consulting expertise, and a proven track record of delivery, with unrivalled global scale and experience.

        Clients will be able to get practical strategy advice from people who understand the opportunities and risks involved in implementation – and strategic execution skills from people who understand the context.”

        This is the home page mission statement of PWC, the company who did the ‘(cough cough loogie) study’ Forbes’s 500 word article published as aFACT and NOT the SPECULATION for marketing plans it actually is.

        This is a PR strategy company, not an accredited economic brain trust ChuckDuck.

        Here’s their “ABOUT US” page:

        “magine the power of 180,000 people with a common purpose — building relationships that create value for you and your business. This is PwC. Every day, our people work with you to build the value you are looking for.

        We’ll start by getting to know you. You do the talking, we’ll do the listening. Our tailored solutions will help you meet the challenges and opportunities of doing business in the US market, and beyond.

        We bring a global perspective along with in-depth knowledge of local, state and US issues. In 1998, Price Waterhouse and Coopers & Lybrand merged to create PricewaterhouseCoopers. We have a long history of delivering value-added professional services to our clients. Our accounting practice originated in London during the mid-1800’s.

        PwC focuses on audit and assurance, tax and consulting services. Additionally, in the US, PwC concentrates on 16 key industries and provides targeted services that include — but are not limited to — human resources,deals, forensics, and consulting services. We help resolve complex issues and identify opportunities.

        Our reputation lies in building lasting relationships with our clients and a focus on delivering value in all we do. Let us apply our world-class capabilities to your business goals.”

        Not hard to bamboozle the RED leaning Forbes when your company buys $1M in ad space and writes 500 words for a 1 page article.

      • Charles Vincent

        As usual off in lala land and didn’t bother to follow links in the article. I dont give two shits about their about us I give a crap that thier information contained in the article is factual they got their info from a .Gov released paper that covers what they went over. It stated healthcare costs will go up and by 2022 those costs will be ~19% of GDP. This is the opposite of what the ACA was intended to do. next year alone cost for healthcare will rise 6.8% instead of going down and that rise will continue to go up learn to use links Stevie.

      • Stephen Barlow

        Projections are not erections, but you just fu*ked yourself without one. You are STILL trying to sell a SALES PITCH as a FACT. SPENDING and COSTS are 2 different thing.

        Your mommy needs remedial reading lessons.

        BECAUSE the REDS have destroyed 2/3 of the economy (Banking, healthcare, energy and agriculture make up 1/3 of the sectors on the stock market), what was 15% of a healthy Pre Bush economy will be 19% of a manufacturing void 2022 economy.

        SPENDING will go UP because 40 million more people will have health insurance by 2022. BUT THE COST OF ALL THAT EXTRA CARE WILL HAVE LEVELED OFF AND IN MANY CASES DIMINISHED. Why? Because competition in the Exchanges for coverage will only increase, as does the diminishing #’s of providers, who will be terrified of charging more and more to patients who can now get care anywhere.

        You don’t think Hillary is just gonna let the PPACA be the ONLY healthcare reform in our lifetime do you? She is gonna push for REAL GOVERNMENT EXPANSION of BOTH Medicaid and Medicare!!! For anyone under 125% of poverty level AND seniors over 55.

        The one trick pony Republicans have done ZERO except vote NO for all the things this nation has needed for a DECADE! There ARE no OP options left except for YOu to continue to suck the GOP rectum and wipe your lips, pretend your fears don’t make you impotent and hope Hillary doesn’t being back the guillotine.

      • Charles Vincent

        “SPENDING and COSTS are 2 different thing”

        Hey dip shit if spending is up it means costs went up.

        “by 2022 those costs will be ~19% of GDP.”

        Healthcare cost not spending idiot

        “BECAUSE the REDS have destroyed 2/3 of the economy (Banking, healthcare,energy and agriculture make up 1/3 of the sectors on the stock market),”

        Congress did this not Bush and FYI congress was controlled by the democrats when the housing and financial bubble burst. again you’re an idiot

      • Stephen Barlow

        WOW! Could it be that “Annual medical inflation has drifted down since the recession and was at a 50-year low of 0.9% in January, according to Capital Economics. But the decline was partly due to the expiration of a large number of drug patents in 2011 and 2012, causing expensive branded drugs to be replaced by cheaper generics.” have made COSTS lower while “the economy is picking up. Since late 2011, employers have added 2.6 million jobs, and the unemployment rate has fallen from 8.5% to 6.7%.” have increased the DOLLAR VOLUME of healthcare SPENDING?

        The REAL trick is UNDERSTANDING what you cut & paste.

        BEcause Obama has SINGLE HANDEDLY rebuilt America with almost ZERO HELP from Congress since 2011, has created millions of NEW jobs and brought 10 million people into the “insured” class of folks since RED obstructionism really tossed American workers under the bus, more people are getting the healthcare they need. Healthcare companies are reaping more REVENUE from the INCREASE IN VOLUME of patients, but the actual cost of the CARE is virtually stagnant.

        What COST $500 in 2011 now COSTS $509. But with 10 million more $500 physicals, SPENDING is UP 6.1%.

        It REALLY matters in a battle of wits, to know the guy you claim is a moron can CORRECTLY INTERPRET what you cut & paste. Don’t pick you horse because you like the #, it’s a sure losing strategy.

      • Charles Vincent

        You are a moron it pretty obvious.

        “Since late 2011, employers have added 2.6 million jobs, and the unemployment rate has fallen from 8.5% to 6.7%.”

        Again you’re an idiot they changed the way Unemployment was calculated those numbers are cooked to make Obama look better. yeah we gained 2.6 million jobs but lost ~6 million not exactly something to brag about.

        “brought 10 million people into the “insured” class of folks”

        And half of those don’t pay into the system to help support the Unfunded liabilities. The CBO put out a report that under the current Law the ACA needed to have 7 million Paying customers for the whole ponzie scheme to be fiscally viable.

      • Stephen Barlow

        That’s because you are one sick person, and THOSE are the people the PPACA was designed to help.

      • Avatar

        I’m not feeling sick anymore. I just simply have a misfortune genetic in my DNA. My dad, grandfather were survivors of exact same kind of cancer.

      • Stephen Barlow

        I am glad you are well now, and not suffering with pre-existing conditions and spending limits.

        it is SAD that the ‘GREAT Fiscal Responsibility Party” never understood that healthy citizens cost less. Or did they and that’s why only healthy people got insurance under REDS?

      • Avatar

        Oh man I wouldn’t want to live in either Mississippi or Louisiana. They are negligent of their own health issues and keep electing representatives and senators who are acting against their own constituents’ interests in name of wealth few. My friend told me that doctors are complaining about what they have seen in southerners. Their biggest pet peeve? Obesity related health issues.

      • Stephen Barlow

        That & smoking & alcohol are the Supreme killers in America, because so much is damaged by each of these.

        BAN tobacco, let them grow POT. An you imagine “The Party of NO!!!” being completely full of “Ignatowski’s”? (Taxi, 80’s sitcom)

      • Avatar

        Amen to that!

      • Stephen Barlow

        CAn you imagine Mitch McConnell NOT stoned?

      • Avatar

        Nope.

      • Stephen Barlow

        NO, the reason insurance companies were given FIVE YEARS (1825 days) is so they could restructure their policies to COMPLY. THEY FAILED and now YOU suffer. 9/10 of Fox’s so called “ACA victims” turned out to be frauds. Most never looked at the exchanges, some lied about their circumstances and believe it or not, some were so racist as to REFUSE a premium DROP of 50% ‘on principle’ because they hate the BLACK President.

        Ain’t reality a bite in the ass?

      • Bine646

        Actually Obama stated over n over again if you like your policy you can keep it. Because midterm elections are coming and every democrat knows they would lose bc of this lie he extended it to 2016- after the elections.

        As for the frauds- millions of Americans are paying more bc of this ACA law, i know bc i have family who lost their policies and are now paying more

      • Stephen Barlow

        And NOTHING in the ACA FORCED your insurance company to FAIL to COMPLY with 1825 days to change the rates and coverage of YOUR policy.

        Obama had NOTHING TO DO WITH IT.

        MAN UP, TAKE that famous Republican mantra of “individual Responsibility” to heart, pack your crap and move to the Cayman’s if you really hate it here.

        Just realize that WHITEs are a 25% resident minority there.

      • Stephen Barlow

        This is true, but she’s right about the 10% cap and the 80% minimum benefits law.

      • Avatar

        All you keep saying again and again you deny that republicans has anything to do with 7-12% approval rating. House of Reps is upper branch of executive power.

        You are too politically ineptitude to discuss anything regard politics.

      • Bine646

        They could be part of it, however judging by midelections im not so sure. Look around at other states where repubs have just beaten out dems since the reelection over obama- most notably bc of the democrats stance

      • Avatar

        No that is not how it went. Year 2009-2010 was full blown anti-Obama for purely radical purpose only. Tea party and their gullible minions went all out and voted for Republicans no matter if their o

      • Bine646

        Hahaha what?

      • Stephen Barlow

        I guess you must have crossed the Rio Grande AFTER 2010.

      • Stephen Barlow

        2010.

      • Stephen Barlow

        That is funny how DARK money bought ultra whites 50 seats in what used to be the OLD Blue South. LMAO!!!

      • Stephen Barlow

        As if VOTER SUPPRESSION and GERRYMANDERING have nothing to do with 70% RED majorities in districts specially engineered for guys like Eric Cantor. LMAO!!!

      • Stephen Barlow

        And those seats would be the NEGATIVE lost by the REDS in 2012?

        17 and they are DONE!!!

      • Sue

        Ins. increases every year. The ACA allows the state to not allow any ins. to increase more than 10% without justifiable reason. In addition, 80% of your premium must be used for health care, or you are refunded.

      • strayaway

        That works great in Venezuela too where the government won’t allow price increases on things like food and toilet paper. Let’s make up magic numbers. Why are the lights flickering?

      • Stephen Barlow

        It works here to, but Fox wil never admit it, which is why you don’t know that.

        And premium increases are the insurance companies CHOICE. has nothing to do with the ACA because the ACA doesn’t mandate rate scamming.

      • strayaway

        You make incorrect assumptions starting with association me with Fox News. Wrong, the internet is my main news source beginning with BBC News. Does making knee jerk assumptions helps simplify possibilities in your little universe? Did I bring up “insurance company CHOICE” or are you a bit confused as to who else might or might not have brought that up? If you want to bring the (un)ACA into a conversation with me though, may I remind you of President Obama’s promise that the (un)ACA was going to cut the average American family’s health insurance premium by $1,500 by the end of his first term. That didn’t happen.

        “Based on a Manhattan Institute analysis of data released by the Department of Health and Human Services, insurance rates for younger men will increase by an average of 97 to 99 percent, while they will increase by an average of 55 to 62 percent for younger women.

        Worst of all states, North Carolina will see individual market rates triple for women and quadruple for men.” -nbcwashingtonDOTcom 3/31/14

        That must be some of the “Change we can believe in”.

      • Stephen Barlow

        Must have hit the guilt nerve for you to come out of your cage swinging on Me linking you to FOxX I did no such thing. I just told the truth, that FOX will never admit it.

      • Bine646

        As soon as you type fox news into your response its illustrates your level of intelligence

      • Stephen Barlow

        THANX!!!!!

      • strayaway

        Oh yeah Fox News, yawn… You forgot the Koch Brothers, racism, and Bush.

      • Stephen Barlow

        Without an actual FOOTNOTE to fact check your claim of having a source… Your mimeoexcuses haold no value in defense against FACTS.

      • Stephen Barlow

        Let’s look atthe states WITH medicaid expansion. They have 2-5 times as many options for the consumers on their exchanges AND because competition is what keeps prices low, States like Alabama and NC that have only 1 or two competitors can be assured that those limited partners will be milking their citizens for all they can.

        AGAIN!! The ACA does NOT set rates, just puts a 10% ceiling on annual rate increases.

        So the information you quote sounds VERY flawed.

        Maybe it’s because so many people signed up that you are seeing 3x and 4x the expected revenues in the marketplace.

      • Bine646

        Medicaid patients can barely find a doctor to see them

      • Stephen Barlow

        And republican Doctors are to blame for THAT!

      • Bine646

        Hahahahahahaha

      • Stephen Barlow

        Democratic docs are fine with the computerized download and storage of “all that massive government paperwork.”

      • Bine646

        Well all files are computerized now- medicaid or not so that argument is out the window. You just make stuff up as you go along huh

      • Stephen Barlow

        Then it’s EVEN MORE VALID NOW, because the FRAUD that was the constant spew about “There is too much paperwork with the PPACA!” just went straight to hell through the landfill!!!

        THANK YOU FOR BEING an idjit.

      • Stephen Barlow

        Don’t you just LOVE cracking a double yolk egg for breakfast?

      • Bine646

        You are not very smart huh

      • Stephen Barlow

        heheeheee. Who skull fuc*ed your brain out?

      • Bine646

        Holy troll

      • Stephen Barlow

        Didn’t know you were Catholic in Catholic School. My condolences.

      • Bine646

        Dont feeeed the trollll

      • Stephen Barlow

        OH, i thought he made you suck HIS!!! he wanted to mouth yours… didja like it?

        just not enough to step out of the closet though. Don’t feel bad, theRED party is FULL of Frauds like you. you must feel so at homo.

      • strayaway

        Who said the (un)ACA sets rates? You have these remarkable arguments with stuff you make up. My point was about something else. Obama promised that the health insurance rates for the average American family would decrease $2,500 by the end of his first term. Instead, the average premium has gone up, according to the Kaiser Foundation, about $2,500/year. I am referring to traditional policies paid for by employers and their employees. You are referring to the wonders of the dhimmitude states paid for in part by traditional policy holders, taxpayers, and new debt billed to our children.

      • Stephen Barlow

        I also don’t base ANY assumptions of Koch Funded right wing think tank propaganda, which you have a penchant for selling as fact.

        You can’t even keep the facts of you claims straight from one post to the next!!!

        “Obama’s promise that the (un)ACA was going to cut the average American family’s health insurance premium by $1,500 by the end of his first term.”

        and now it’s

        “Obama promised that the health insurance rates for the average American family would decrease $2,500 by the end of his first term”

        WHY did the 3000 military deaths in Iraq since General Bush declared “Mission accomplished 4040 days ago does not bother you one bit?

        YOu should be HARPING all over THAT LIE!!! That is if you had any integrity.

      • strayaway

        You are right. I made a mistake and corrected it. “Obama promised that the health insurance rates for the average American family would decrease $2,500 (not $1,500 as previously stated) by the end of his first term”.

        This is from factcheck, “Obama (Bristol, Va., June 5): In an Obama administration, we’ll lower premiums by up to $2,500 for a typical family per year. And we’ll do it by investing in disease prevention, not just disease management; by investing in a paperless health care system to reduce administrative costs; and by covering every single American and making sure that they can take their health care with them if they lose their job. … And we won’t do all this twenty years from now, or ten years from now. We’ll do it by the end of my first term as president of the United States.”

        At least you had the integrity to refer to the President’s statement as “THAT LIE”.

      • Jeffrey Zamora

        Strayaway and Bine are trolls. Pretty much everyone has figured out they’re not even worth your time to go back and forth with. They are your typical fox news teabagger repubs that throw out whatever made up fox news talking point sounds good enough to pass along as fact. We all know teabaggers don’t deal with fact. You’re better off ignoring their stupidity. It will save you a headache.

      • TruthBtold

        Interestingly, you quote a projection from a conservative think tank. Meanwhile, everyday, Americans are singing up constantly and finding rates much lower than expected. More people on insurance equals lower costs for everyone. What is so hard about that? Republicans agreed with a mandate until Obama made it a law. Just goes to show the obstructionism of the GOP more clearly.
        Also- you’ll notice the approval rating of the ACA improving everyday. More and more people find out everyday, that beyond all the FOX news/conservative pundit bull shit, is a viable law that will help millions of Americans. Something the GOP has been against for a long time. Millions of Americans, I mean. They are only interested in helping a select few, who pay very well for their obedience. Namely- the 1%. Trickle down economics is a scam, to keep the rich getting richer and the poor poorer. Americans are seeing this now, and it will be the end of the GOP. I have my popcorn ready. The next decade is going to be fun to watch. A slow death scene, worthy of an oscar, of the GOP. Hillary 2016.

      • strayaway

        My sources have been President Obama making yet another broken promise, politifact, the Kaiser Foundation, and NBCwashington(DOT)com. If you have a problem with NBC, take it up with NBC or announce your superior vetting ability. Thanks for informing us that NBC, as in MSNBC, is in league with a “conservative think tank”. Funny. The fact is that insurance rates for the average American family with a traditional policy continues to climb. If you want to compare subsidized (un)ACA policies, don’t forget to include the subsidies for a true cost comparison. People like free Obamaphones too if they don’t have to pay for them. The 1% designed the (un)ACA. Senator Baucus thanked insurance company VP and lobbyist Liz Fowler for writing the (un)ACA. You can’t come up with more of an insider than that. The 1%’s pre-selected candidates Hillary and Jeb = Corporatist Fascism (the Bush/Obama sequel) 2016.

      • TruthBtold

        Ok, so claim an opinion then pawn it off on anyone else so you don’t have to stand by it. Got it. The ACA will not immediately drop rates, it takes time, and people have already bought in to it. It won’t go away now, and it will only get better. It’s a half measure, we should be on a single payer system.
        Also- the “obama phone” you speak of was started under president Reagan, for land lines and expanded to cell phones under bush 2. Yet another rightie claiming Bush’s mistakes are Obama’s fault. We are stepping closer to fascism, due to conservative policies, and judges, like the hobby lobby case today. Conservative judges just gave corporations freedom over the individual. That’s amazing. Obama is not great, but his social policies are far better than any conservative. Obamacare is a step to single payer. And we should be there already…

      • strayaway

        I provided the source and date of the story. Won’t immediately drop rates? I could have guessed that. Then why did Obama promise, “In an Obama administration, we’ll lower premiums by up to $2,500 for a typical family per year.… And we won’t do all this twenty years from now, or ten years from now. We’ll do it by the end of my first term as president of the United States.” The leaders in Venezuela also keep promising that things will just get better and maybe they will. Maybe the (un)ACA will get better too or maybe there will be a shortage of doctors, its computer systems will crash, 5M Americans will be kicked off their insurance policies, and costs will be higher than expected. The (un)ACA is a corporatist scheme involving a collusion of big government and large corporations. Corporatism, by definition, = economic fascism.

      • TruthBtold

        5 million Americans had the change their insurance plan, they didn’t lose it. How many people are suffering under republican states that refused to expand Medicaid under the ACA? Surveys have shown the uninsured rate has dropped dramatically across the board, including in states that expanded Medicaid. The states that didn’t, insurance coverage stayed the same. So, to be clear, millions of poor people don’t have coverage thanks to republicans. Amazing. You can argue Obamacare=Economic fascism all you want, but the truth is this was a compromise for the GOP. Obama and Dems all wanted single payer. But the GOP can’t allow that. That would be a policy for the overall good of the people. And we know from recent history that the GOP is firmly against “overall good of the people.”

      • strayaway

        No, they lost their plans because, in most cases, their plans did not provide insurance for new requirements that they often didn’t personally need. Then they presumably bought another policy. The states that cooperate with Obama are funded by states that don’t. That’s called extortion. If all states were in, some other funding mechanism would have to be be developed to raise extra revenue. Vermont tried to institute an affordable single payer plan but the (un)ACA thugs jumped in and told Vermont that they could do so but only if Vermont kept (un)ACA as part of its plan. That kept the trial lawyers, bureaucrats, insurance companies, and big pharma rolling in money and prevented Vermont’s plan from being affordable in the sense that Canadian provincial plans are affordable. Obama made his choice in favor of the status quo.

      • TruthBtold

        That’s not extortion. It’s called governing. And those states you speak of, who refused to expand Medicaid, that the federal gov’t would fund, are all republican states that take more from the gov’t than they give in taxes. You’ll notice states that are predominately republican, are always the last in the country in things like infant mortality, education, per capita income, people on welfare. This should tell you something… Of course the gov’t didn’t want Vermont going single payer, it inhibits the ACA nationally, and when we go single payer, it’ll be nationwide. Not specific states…

      • strayaway

        I’ll go with extortion. If you don’t play my game, I will punish you. If a state doesn’t play the game, it is not allowed the benefits its taxpayers have to provide other states that chose to play the game. It’s called governing or extortion in this case. The plain states vote republican and do quite well. You must be referring to those formerly Democratic states in the seep south now voting Republican. You probably don’t want to discuss dependable Democratic cities like Detroit or the public educational system of California descending to compete with Mississippi’s.

        I love your schadenfreude take on preventing Vermont from pioneering its own single payer system. Everyone should suffer until they capitulate in Obama world. Parks should close but not the Senate gym when Obama shut down the government. Yes, Vermont’s single payer plan would inhibit the (un)ACA inhabited as it is with trial lawyers, bureaucrats, insurance execs, and big pharmacy. We should all suffer like people in Detroit waiting for the payoff of voting for Democrats. The (un)ACA was going to lower the average family health insurance plan cost by $2,500/year too but that didn’t happen either. My advice: Let Vermont do its thing.

      • Stephen Barlow

        “they lost their plans because, in most cases, their plans did not provide insurance for new requirements that they often didn’t personally need. “\insurance is based on a wide risk pool. You want it, you pay your FAIR SHARE along with everyone else.”

        INsurance HASN’T worked for 80 years be cause it was Republicanized into an exclusionary, segregated, for profit fraud. The ACA fixes that and the same people who dodge taxes any way they can, are opposed to paying their fair share. And then they say what proud patriots they for it.

      • Stephen Barlow

        The 5M# is a fraud, has been for 6 years. More like 1.5M and most of those are from United Healthcare ENDING whole groups of insured and CANCELLING policies WHOLESALE for organizations like AAR, or in individual locations like California.

        You can’t CLAIM to be honest and include FRAUDULENT data in your crap. Even if you can semi source it to NBC on the odd rare occaission you actually footnote and account for your propaganda sources.

        MAYBE this or MAYBE that is not a credible account. MAYBE aliens will transport all the healthy people to spaceships… MAYBE a Republican will tell the truth ONCE this year. MAYBE it already was Glenn Beck!!!!!

        Weirder things have happened. Your mother didn’t try and bleach you out of her womb or drown you when you were Christened did she? Although I would expect that before expecting o hear Glenn Beck say that the whole of the Bush administration “GOT OT WRONG FRO THE START ABOUT IRAQ and THE MIDDLE EAST!”

      • strayaway

        Keep selling your snake oil. The accepted figure is 4.7M although Boehner claimed 6M. Some were cancelled out and accepted more expensive policies with their same insurance company and while others who were cancelled bought an (un)ACA policy.

        Glenn Beck, Iraq, whatever else is irrelevent, mother insults, yadda yadda = typical Stephen Barlow Post. I have been wasting too much time on you. Good-bye.

      • TruthBtold

        Exactly, 4.7 million people had to CHANGE their policies so 315 million could be covered. Oh, the travesty. They didn’t lose coverage, they had to change. It’s called gov’t. For the good of the people. But your conservative, I wouldn’t expect you to know or even care about that.

      • strayaway

        They didn’t lose coverage? What sort of news have you been reading? They did lose coverage and some or most found another policy somewhere. It’s scary when some people get so self righteous that they are willing to sacrifice sizable minorities for what they consider “the good of the people”. Might makes right. Yes, I know about that, Worse cases have been the kulaks and Jews who were made to sacrifice for the good of the people; especially those in power. It’s the same mentality although not as serious in this case. It’s called government.

      • Stephen Barlow

        They had options they CHOSE not to take.

        The cash a check from Fox to be a headline item and never even bother to look. 9/10 Fox News scam families were debunked within 72 hours, confronted and 20% said, “Well it doesn’t matter if I save money on insurance, If (dat Nword guy) Obama is for it, I’m stupid enough to be against it!”

        HAHAHAAH! The stupidity of rEpublicans, like people rowing to get back oN the Titanic!

      • Stephen Barlow

        Rates are already dropping, across the board. The ONLY place the consumers is at the complete mercy of the Insurance companies is in small group plans, and individual, none ACA plans. You know the “Cancer” policies and Catastropy only policies.

        If you want those and like them you can still have them, BUT you will pay through the nose for them because they are and have always been all but pure cash cows for the industry.

        NOW that Pre-Existing Conditions have not been reinstated 53 times by john Boehner’s Republican Waste Squad… Along with automatic cancelations AND benefit’s caps… YOu fool’s will be getting milked like snakes for all your venom.

        So take it up with the Boehner’s Boneheads, who want you to die rather than have affordable, universal care.

      • Stephen Barlow

        hahahaha The price of “special Sauce” @ Mcdonald’s is STIL the full cost of a Big Mac. So if you only want the sauce, get ready to pay for the lettuce, cheese, pickles, onions, sesame seed bun AND two all beef patties.

        healthcare is no different, NON ACA policies ARE EXEMPT from PPACA price controls and rate hikeas, so your INSURANCE COMPANY cen be expected to screw you just as badly as you were being screwed before… EXCEPT for the added price gouging for the Presidential Elimination of Lifetime and policy limits, pre-existing conditions and automatic cancellations for using the insurance you paid for.

        So “honest” of you to include the BENEFITS of healthcare reform in your propaganda sport. Let’s take in the WHOLE cost of healthcare NOW, in 4 years, and from the Bush Era and before… Ler’s see how cost inflation has been more than halved, services have be increased 1/3 among the uninsured and emergency room expenses have plummetted.

        NOW Let’s have an HONEST discussion that MORE of the ‘vetted’, “hand selected’, “partisan” FACTS are ALL ON THE TABLE to mull through.

        The truth is you STILL Gut & Waste 70% of the news in your racist zeal to make Obama responsible for ALL your petty problems.

        Wanna save the MOST on healthcare, BEcome a family annihilator and get use the prison infirmary.
        And you will be 100% of what you hate most about BLACK and Hispanics. A Government liability.

      • strayaway

        Obama’s failure, and any notice of it, is always about his race to you isn’t it?

        “”In an Obama administration, we’ll lower premiums by up to $2,500 for a typical family per year.… And we won’t do all this twenty years from now, or ten years from now. We’ll do it by the end of my first term as president of the United States.”

        -wrong, average traditional policies have instead increased by about that amount but, gee, now our insurance helps pay for the likes of Sandra Fluke’s health insurance and birth control at Georgetown. What a deal.

      • Stephen Barlow

        But in your case, all your evidence to the contrary ios PROVEN to be BOGUS.

      • Stephen Barlow

        Nice of you to make a new complaint when you get slaughtered LYING about the last lose you suffered.

      • Stephen Barlow

        I notice your balls are misplaced again when confronted with any truth.

      • Stephen Barlow

        Your personal RACE HATE is about YOUR RACE HATE. That’s all.

        Your 70% omission based micro slice reality only tells 30% or less of the WHOLE TRUTH. That is about YOU being a CONSISTANTLY CHRONIC PATHOLOGICAL Race Based LIAR.

        Until Obama DEFEATED the entire GOP in 2008, paying for birth control had NEVER BEEN an issue with the RACE HATE GOP. Not with Corporations, public or private, profit or non-profit.

        And yet ANOTHER lie!! ” average traditional policies have instead increased by about that amount”

        Give Me a legitimate source, a CITATION/FOOTNOTE for that source, or remain a RACE BASED LIAR to the entire public.

      • strayaway

        Stephen, Perhaps I didn’t make to make it clear to why I am no longer giving you attention besides deeming you a waste of my time. Your lack of intelligence, your refusal to answer questions although I tried to answer yours, and your continual shape shifting of topics should be enough for other posters here to shun you but when you made reference to my mother’s womb, you went over a line. I realize you are slow to pick up things. That’s why I am spelling it out for you. That’s why I said good-bye.

      • Stephen Barlow

        Apparently YOU just got CAUGHT LYING AGAIN!!!!

        Because you gave me something to refute and
        DEBUNK!!! That being your very EXISTENCE…

        Your extreme cowardice and fraud in being unwilling AND incapable of citing a true footnote makes you the equal of the Piltdown Man.

      • Stephen Barlow

        That’s what happens when Republicans STALL healthcare reform for 30 years. The last time, they transformed mental patients into criminal prisoners and while saving a few dollars in healthcare, raised the cost of corrections 400%.

      • Bine646

        As Mitt Romney, a successful republican businessman, implemented healthcare in Mass?

      • Stephen Barlow

        That was a success that took three years and had NO Democratic opposition. Obama care SUCCEEDED within the first 6 months DESPITE 50 votes to repeal it, frivolous lawsuits as far as the Supreme Court, Dark mOney propaganda blitz’s and a Republican partisan REFUSAL to provide for 5 million American when it wouldn’t cost the RED STATES a SINGLE DIME.

        By December, expect a FULL 13million enrollment through the exchanges.

        Even a comparatively simple Heath care initiative took Bush 1000 days to get functional. Medicare Part D became a success eventually, with one little tiny exception. The REDS conveniently disallowed the Government the right to negotiate BULK PHARMACEUTICAL prices and so it created a CORPORATE WELFARE PLAN for Big Pharma.

      • Bine646

        Obamacare succeeded huh? As mandates are being postponed and others found unconstitutional? You just believe whatever you want huh?

        Healthy did not sign up for these policies, the premiums are about to sky rocket because of that. Add that to the millions who will no longer have the incentive to work- what a disaster

      • Stephen Barlow

        SO you are claiming that tens of millions of workers will walk off the job? Any day now!!! Which day might that be?

        A 7 million goal exceeded by 15%, AND considering the lack of RED sTATE participation…

        You know what? I am done with you. There will never be truth in you. Not even under the fingernails of your corpse.

      • Bine646

        If you read the CBO, reading doesn’t seem your strong point, you would know tens of millions of workers will not walk off the job.

      • Stephen Barlow

        “Add that to the millions who will no longer have the incentive to work- what a disaster.”

        Why lie so blatantly?

      • Bine646

        The report said 2 million, not tens of millions. Big difference, try reading it n stop acting like a clown

      • Len Silva

        Because of the filibuster rules, the Senate is not Democratically controlled. While it takes only 51 votes to pass legislation, it takes only 40 votes to stop it and do nothing.

      • Stephen Barlow

        it takes 51 votes to pass a resolution, 60 to pass permanent laws that don’t expire within 10 years.

      • TruthBtold

        So now premiums will sky rocket “Next year!”? Funny, when it was rolling out that what every tea bagger/GOP’er said, “premiums are HUGE,” then the American people saw they weren’t, they were actually manageable. How the GOP thinks that more people on insurance will INCREASE premiums is astounding. You do understand how insurance works, yes? The more people in it, the lower the costs to everyone. Why do you think the mandate was a BI-PARTISAN agreement, that is, until Obama made it law, then it HAD to be a scandal! In the eyes of the GOP. It’s pathetic.
        As for congress’ approval rating, yes, the senate is democratically controlled, and the house is GOP control. However, a look at the numbers says a lot. Republicans have an approval rating of 26%. Democrats have an approval rating of 34%.
        This is largely due to the tea party and their “NO NEGOTIATION” ways… Unfortunately for you, the tea party are republican. And will be the death of the GOP. Personally, I’ll be happy to watch it fall apart over the next t years. It’s going to be a riot.

      • Bine646

        Bloomberg wrote the piece, sorry go fight them

      • Peter

        Even if the Democrats has the majority of the Senate the Legislative Congress is controlled by the obstructionist republicans. And the reason for ACA is for everyone to have healthcare. Healthcare should be a human right, not a “rich” persons privilege. ACA is making it available to all.

      • Bine646

        The ACA is not affordable for all thats number one. The healthy did not enroll, premiums will increase in 2015 and beyond. Doctors are not accepting new patients let alone medicaid/care patients, single payer is not far down the road after this disaster

      • Stephen Barlow

        Obama should use the Patriot Act to empty the GOP of Seditious Traitors.

      • Stephen Barlow

        Which is constantly fillibustered and minority vote thwarted. If Reid were not a dinosaur, he would have passed everything they wanted as a resolution, with a 10 year life. But By insisting on a permanent law, he needs 60 votes, not just 51. He doesn’t want to stoop to the Bush administration requirements, even if it would be the right thing to do for the citizens.

      • surfjac

        yes, with a super minority of republcan’ts who vote NO on anything positive for America. Fuck them

      • strayaway

        Remember how Clinton had the same problem but managed to compromise to secure welfare reform and sort of balance the budget? Clinton had to deal with Gingrich who makes Boehner look like a wimp. Unlike Obama, Clinton compromised. Obama simply doesn’t have the same set of job skills as Clinton.

      • surfjac

        When has the right ever really compromised with Obama? I think the obstruction that Obama has faced has been far worse than anything Clinton dealt with. Also, it may have been a more civil atmosphere in Clinton’s day when the gop hadn’t been taken over by extremist right wingers, nuckin’ futjobs, that are there now.

      • strayaway

        Clinton agreed to welfare reform which cut the welfare roles. In contrast, Obama has inflated welfare roles and wouldn’t even compromise with the second try of House republicans asking only for a one year extension before instituting (un)ACA mandates. Obama wouldn’t compromise preferring a government shut down. That’s a huge difference. Republicans, under Boehner, have since essentially given up on budget ceilings. Clinton, on contrast, more or less balanced the budget. Obama doesn’t only want his way 100% of the time. He and some Democratesa re now speaking the language of despotism; do what I want or I’ll do it by executive order (“borrow some powers”).

      • surfjac

        Every other President in recent memory utilized the “executive order” more than Obama has, EVERY ONE. This is not “despotism” as much as it is “HEY, DOPES! YOU WERE ELECTED TO DO SOMETHING POSITIVE FOR THE USA!”

      • mikedirubioamericanborncitizen

        …And one being the conservative controlled house giving them the majority in congress! Of course you fail to mention that. You, once again, have been exposed!

      • Bine646

        The senate is controlled by democrats- congress is split. Not exactly sure what has been exposed?

      • Mrs_oatmeal

        Do you remember GW’s approval rating? His approval rating is low because most Americans are too lazy to figure out how government works and they are mad at the wrong people.

      • Bine646

        Yes, its online- go research it

      • Avatar

        *sigh* you’re yet another unpaid troll. Go away and go back to Breitbart.

      • Bine646

        omg he must be a troll bc he is hitting us w facts that i cannot refute- strong rebuttal

      • Avatar

        (rolling on floor laughing my as off) you implied that Breitbart are always being right?

      • Stephen Barlow

        EVER* I have NEVER seen Breitbart deliver completely accurate reports on anything, including the weather.

      • Avatar

        It’s because this blogger have nothing truthful to say!

      • Bine646

        Again, you are bringing nothing to this discussion, go do some research and bring back facts. Get off the floor, unless you are a child which reading your responses could be the case

      • Avatar

        It’s because you have nothing truthful to say!!!

      • Bine646

        When Obama took office the debt held by our federal reserve was 460billion. Its now at 2.4 trillion.

        Corporations have seen have seen an profit increase of 180% since 2008, while real weekly earnings for citizens has increased 0.2%. All this while our economy has just shrunk by 3% (highest since 09 Great Recession) after we passed the ACA- which the CBO reported creates a disincentive to work. Food stamp recipients have increased by 46% since under Obama- so with the ACA it seems that number will increase. Bad news since the debt held by the public is up 100% (you guessed it- under Obama)- we need individuals to work to pay off the $55,000 share of the debt.

      • strayaway

        “In Bush’s sixth year in office, just 33 percent of Americans had a “great deal” or “quite a lot” of confidence in the executive branch of government. In the same year of Obama’s presidency, the same branch earned 29 percent.”

        -from a Gallup Poll as reported 6/30/14 by realclearpoliticsDOTcom

      • Avatar

        Compared to the congress’ 7% approval rating.

      • Stephen Barlow

        BEcause most polls are RED slanted in their question phrasing. A lot of “Are you still beating your wife?” kind of double bind questions, particularly with Rassmussen and Gallup.

        Sadder still is that most people blame the President for Boehner and McConnell’s malicious and treasonous obstructionism. They swore an oath to protect the Constitution, not invalidate it.

      • Bine646

        Gallop poll is not- nice try pal, youll try and skew anything huh- too much pride cant handle the truth huh

      • Stephen Barlow

        Gallup INVENTED the job category “underemployed’ specifically for Republican propaganda purposes. They were paid well enough to claim they make 30,00 phone calls a week to ‘legitimize their results.

        It’s where the REDS got their famous “23 MILLION AMERICANS OUT OF WORK since Obama took office” scam. They bought cusstomized short term data from Gallup to deflect from the reality of 53 out of 54 months of job growth since Bush left office dumping more than 3/4 MILLION JOBS A MONTH!!!!! almost 10 million jobs LOST (nothing like DOUBLING unemployment)… added to the normally 7-10 million unemployed… and then this new category of “unemployed or under employed”

        Under employed people, those students and housewives and retired persons… and downsized and laid off people doing part time work normally make up a few million people a month.

        But the skewed question asked by Gallup specifically for the Republicans (designed by the AEI no doubt) was:

        “Are currently not working, or not working as much as you want or need to?”

        historically, Gallup polls come out 2-3 less RED favored points than Rasmussen, who historically lean right by 4-5 points.

      • Bine646

        NBC n WALL street journal have him at 37%. Others like rasumussen have him at 42%.

        You will find any way to blame the republicans for Obama’s mistakes or inaction- its hilarious and scary. Swallow your pride and realize he isnt what you voted for- its ok Stephen

      • Stephen Barlow

        NO, I pin Obama’s mistakes straight in his heart with a wooden stake. but I ONLY blame Obama for his own failures. What Bush did wrong is all on Him and those who lie, like you, about the President being responsible for General WMD Bush’s criminal failures.

        I admit I an vastly disappointed in Obama. And I also know that the RED obstructionism is TREASON against the VOTERS and their families. It violates the oath of office and it is the most Communistic assault on America since Cuba in ’62.

        But as a blood on your hands RED, you need to man up and take responsibility for the failed economy, the Wall Street largesse, the 11 million bad mortgages WRITTEN IN BAD FAITH that foreclosed (I mean how much badder faith can you GET than BETTING the mortgage you just wrote will DEFAULT ON SCHEDULE), the SURGE that extended BOTH wars (had Iraq ended when the truth about WMD came out in 2005, we could have ‘surged in AfPak 4 years sooner and been OUT in 2009, not 2014)…

        When you have the integrity to claim what is yours and your kin folk’s… Then you may have the modicum of respect you may have earned in doing so. until then, you are either covering up Republican failure and deceit or you are an REAL American.

      • strayaway

        Remember when Romney was secretly taped at a strategy session and said something to the effect that 47% of Americans were at the government teat and would vote Democratic no matter what? Maybe Romney was wrong. Have to wonder if 5 or 10% gave up hope.

  • Phil the observer

    As I have always said, “If you want to run with the big Dogs, you better have the legs for it”. The GOP are nothing but a bunch of yapping, tiny mutts, That, if not stopped will bring down a Lion…So, they need to be stopped by the BIG Dogs!!!

    • Bine646

      The GOP won this decision 9-0. From the most liberal justice to the most conservative. The “Big Dogs” have spoken

      • Mrs_oatmeal

        Ooopps! You mean the coloration owned dogs…

      • Bine646

        Obama appointed a few…

  • Cathy

    I hope this goes viral and that the people of the US understand how important this mid term election is and they go and vote! He needs a congress he can work with! That is up to us.

    • Bine646

      Only thing thats going viral is the fact that hundreds of decisions are now nullified because our President made an unconstitutional move- as the Supreme Court has shown.

      Add that to this administrations inaction with Lois Lerner and the IRS scandal- no wonder his approval rating is so low, Bush low.

      • shawn

        Hey look everybody. We found the nut job. Thanks for the laughs buddy. Oh wait your serious? Hahahahahaha

      • Bine646

        The Supreme Courts 9-0 decision in favor of Congress is hilarious, ok? You mad Shawn?

      • Common Sense

        The decision was based on a pro-forma ruling that Congress was never in recess. By that understanding, Congress has always been in session, and will always be in session….yet, when you look at the time away from the congressional floor that congressmen and women have, it is….beyond disturbing

      • Bine646

        The ruling nullified hundreds of decisions which were found unconstitutional

      • Mrs_oatmeal

        They also noted that previous Presidents had done the same thing. Invalid point.

      • Bine646

        Were these other Presidents decisions brought before the Supreme Court to be deemed unconstitutional? Wasnt Obama supposed to be different from other Presidents? How he got your vote

  • Bine646

    How Clifton does not think the IRS erasing 2 yrs of emails 10 days after they learn of a pending investigation shows how skewed his opinion is. The head of the National Archives has stated they failed to follow the law and Lois Lerner pleading the 5th makes it even worse- maybe thats because she tried auditing a Senator because she accidentally received his invitation to a dinner.

    Clifton’s stance against the “right” or Republicans has led him to waste countless hours of his life writing asinine articles like this. He believes his opinion is correct because he continues to state it, over and over and over. He truly believes others are the radicals- yet he enters some extremes on a daily basis.

    Now, after the Supreme Court voted unanimously in Congress’ favor, Clifton wastes more of his energy comprising this piece- what a joke. Time to switch it up Clifton- unplug your computer and go do something with your life instead of wasting it writing pointless articles like this; it changes nothing. You want change- go to Washington, can’t wait to see your name on the ballot

    • maggie

      And yet you apparently read his “pointless articles” over and over and over.

      • Bine646

        Can’t even make it part way through he dribble, usually come to see how out of touch the responses are.

      • Mrs_oatmeal

        If you don’t read the whole thing how can you come to a valid conclusion about the body of work. That’s an intelligent way to judge things.

      • Bine646

        Clifton repeats himself over n over, the same points. He copies and pastes

    • Tom Birmingham

      well given that the Scotus ruling is meaningless now, see the filibuster maneuver on Executive appointees was banned. The use of the maneuver is what traditionally caused the recess appointments.

      • Bine646

        What the IRS did was target one particular group by profiling, then they illegally erased hard drives while never alerting the courts that the emails were lost. Emails which apparently would of incriminated many. Then their leader said she wasn’t good at math and pleaded the 5th. The issue is now not whether the IRS targeted these groups, its how they tried to dispose of the evidence thats the most disturbing.

        All this is happening with the DOJ stands back and the administration makes no attempt to uncover the truth. But after we have seen issue after issue arise with no individual being held accountable- this seems to be how this administration operates

      • Toomuchcoffeeguy

        The IRS actually targeted liberal groups with political names as well.
        As far as the e-mails go, IRS policy at the time of the alleged hard drive crash was that only e-mails that contained official records had to be saved to a paper copy. Beyond that, each employee’s inbox was only allotted enough memory for 1,800 e-mails, after which they would have to be stored on the employee’s computer.
        If the GOP really thought the Lerner destroyed incriminating e-mails from the White House, then they would be asking the White House for their copies of said e-mails; and the same goes for anyone else they are suspicious about her communications with. Instead, they are making a big deal about the missing e-mails from Lerner’s computer, because they know they can use that to manipulate folks like you into thinking something is being covered up.

      • Bine646

        You have multiple parts of this government, not just republicans, who have said this broke the law. However ignorance is bliss, Allen Clifton loves the ignorant

      • Pipercat

        Here’s the law, pay close attention to (4)(A):

        §501. Exemption from tax on corporations, certain trusts, etc.

        (a) Exemption from taxation

        An organization described in subsection (c) or
        (d) or section 401(a) shall be exempt from taxation under this subtitle
        unless such exemption is denied under section 502 or 503.

        (b) Tax on unrelated business income and certain other activities

        An organization exempt from taxation under
        subsection (a) shall be subject to tax to the extent provided in parts II, III, and VI of this subchapter, but (notwithstanding parts II, III, and VI of this subchapter) shall be considered an organization exempt
        from income taxes for the purpose of any law which refers to organizations exempt from income taxes.

        (c) List of exempt organizations

        The following organizations are referred to in subsection (a):

        (1) Any corporation organized under Act of
        Congress which is an instrumentality of the United States but only if such corporation—

        (A) is exempt from Federal income taxes—

        (i) under such Act as amended and supplemented before July 18, 1984, or (ii) under this title without regard to any provision of law which is not contained in this title and which is not contained in a revenue Act, or (B) is described in subsection (l).

        (2) Corporations organized for the exclusive purpose of holding title to property, collecting income
        therefrom, and turning over the entire amount thereof, less expenses, to an organization which itself is exempt under this section. Rules similar to the rules of subparagraph (G) of paragraph (25) shall apply
        for purposes of this paragraph.

        (3) Corporations, and any community chest,
        fund, or foundation, organized and operated exclusively for religious, charitable, scientific, testing for public safety, literary, or educational purposes, or to foster national or international amateur
        sports competition (but only if no part of its activities involve the provision of athletic facilities or equipment), or for the prevention of cruelty to children or animals, no part of the net earnings of which
        inures to the benefit of any private shareholder or individual, no substantial part of the activities of which is carrying on propaganda, or otherwise attempting, to influence legislation (except as otherwise
        provided in subsection (h)), and which does not participate in, or intervene in (including the publishing or distributing of statements), any political campaign on behalf of (or in opposition to) any candidate
        for public office.

        (4)(A) Civic leagues or organizations not organized for profit but operated exclusively for the promotion of social welfare, or local associations of employees, the membership of which is limited to the employees of a designated person or persons in a particular municipality, and the net earnings of which are devoted exclusively to charitable, educational, or recreational purposes.

        (B) Subparagraph (A) shall not apply to an
        entity unless no part of the net earnings of such entity inures to the benefit of any private shareholder or individual.

      • Bine646

        Does any part of that law say the IRS can erase its hard drives and not alert the appropriate departments until years later? No I didn’t think so

        Lois is pleading the 5th for a reason, pay attention

      • Pipercat

        No, but it shows that the IRS has the power and, in fact, the duty to scrutinize these entities. That is the only issue here. The rest is a partisan sideshow.

      • Bine646

        The head of the IRS was trying to audit a senator bc of an invitation she wrongly received. They abused their power, they now covered it up by erasing hard drives and failing to report the loss(which did not follow the law as the archives head has stated). Now she makes herself look even worse by pleading the 5th

      • Pipercat

        She plead the fifth in regards to the accusation she was singling out conservative groups trying to obtain a 501c4 status. The rest happened after she exercised her rights under the Constitution. There is only supposition and there is no evidence that these drives were erased. When that changes, then you’ll have a separate issue to argue.

      • Bine646

        Alittle fishy 10 days after learning of a pending investigation Lerner shows up to blue screens. Even more incriminating she decided to keep it a secret until now

        Judging by this administrations inaction on this matter, it could be awhile before we learn the truth. Either way this should be deeply disturbing to all Americans, she is enjoying a full pension paid by the people yet she refuses to speak about following a law. As the IRS wasted 50 million on extravagent meetings and conferences

      • Pipercat

        There are a lot more disturbing things out there than how bureaucrats interact with elected politicians. She is enjoying the pension because she is entitled to it. There have been no convictions nor are there any guilty verdicts rendered because she exercised her rights. Should there be an indictment, trial and verdict, then perhaps those things will change. The rest is business as usual and any change to extravagance will have to come from the People’s House via legislation and the purse.

        Your summary condemnation is based on your partisan beliefs. I, on the other hand, can be patient to see what may transpire. The underlying issue: The perceived persecution of partisan groups is dead on arrival. The rest is just a potential consolation prize.

      • Bine646

        My condemnation is not based on partisan beliefs. Its based on facts which have been brought to light, Lerner’s response to those facts and the environment which seems to be present at the IRS. All have fueled this abuse of power and waste of tax dollars

      • Pipercat

        Those are not facts; they are allegations. They have not been proven beyond a reasonable doubt. Lerner’s response is Constitutionally protected. The rest is a drawn conclusion at the end of a straw man.

      • Bine646

        Um yes, yes they have been proven. Email shows she tried auditing Senator Grassley because of an invitation mixup. Documents show the misuse of funds and the archives head said they failed to follow the law by not reporting the loss of the emails.

        She can plead the 5th but its making her look more guilty but maybe she is as bad at telling the truth as she is at math

      • Pipercat

        … and what this proves what again?

        I thought this was all about a few poor 501c4 applicants who were delayed from getting a tax designation -that they received- which, by law, they didn’t deserve and said delay somehow proved that the current occupant of the White House is really a Manchurian Candidate.

        I suppose this is the consolation prize. I must confess, as far as consolation prizes go, this is pretty chintzy.

      • Bine646

        This proves that Lois Lerner was abusing her power. I see your stance bc this involves “tea party” groups, its not hard to comprehend how this is wrong unless your vision is skewed

      • Pipercat

        Nothing has been proved, only alleged. Big difference. Lerner is out of her job and there’s a new IRS commissioner. That’s what happens when abuse is discovered, the rolling of heads; but by all means, keep skulking around for that pound of flesh you’re looking for.

        My stance is this: 501c entities cannot be used for any (key word there) political activities. This means the [enter party name of choice here] Party Friday Night Bowling Benevolent Bowling League and Political Action Club (or the like) does not deserve the 501c designation, period. My vision on this is quite clear. Read the law, it is very specific. On a lighter note, your outrage, feigned as it is, is extremely entertaining!

      • Bine646

        Any rolling of heads for the ACA roll out disaster?

        As for the outrage, glad wasting millions of your tax dollars is entertaining!!!

      • Pipercat

        Such outrage!!!!!! It’s adorable, as well as, entertaining. As far as boondoggles go, I think this falls to bottom of the heap. So for your own good health, don’t put the letter F, separated with a hyphen, together with the number 35… or 22 for that matter; your head will explode.

      • Bine646

        Glad youre experiencing all those emotions from an internet message board- gotta get it somehow

      • Pipercat

        Which one- amusement?

      • Bine646

        You said adorable, that adjective evokes some emotion-

      • Pipercat

        Naaah, cynicism.

      • Pipercat

        … like amusement.

      • strayaway

        And what a job Ms. Lerner is doing! She even held up Abon’go “Roy’ Malik Obama’s paperwork for one month for his Barack H. Obama Foundation. No one knows what becomes of the money raised for that charity of course but we trust it will help our relations with the Muslim Brotherhood, help Abon’go with the upkeep of his twelve wives, or some other worthy non tea party endeavor.

      • Pipercat

        Well shit! That explains that sudden tremor, some time back, as if the Earth stood still!!

      • strayaway

        Talking point: “The IRS actually targeted liberal groups with political names as well. ”

        Reality: Out of the 20 groups applying for tax-exempt status whose names contained “progress” or “progressive”, 6 had been chosen for more scrutiny as compared to all of the 292 groups applying for tax-exempt status whose names contained “tea party”, “patriot”, or “9/12”.

    • Mrs_oatmeal

      And yet you keep reading them…

    • Brian

      Judging by the fact you reply to everyone who posts and are reading these articles, you’re not just trolling. You’re stroking your e-peen. Egotistical masturbation is pretty weak.

      • Bine646

        Thats your opinion, I call it educating the ignorant who spew emotion. I see you refuted my facts

  • Rose Bounds

    I work in telesurveys and for some reason my company mostly does push-polling for the Republicans. In short, my liberal pot smoking ass gets paid peanuts to read lies for the GOP. Yeah yeah, its a job. My point is that I get a unique perspective on Obama’s approval rating day in and day out. I don’t know how the numbers were twisted to give Obama an only 40% approval rating–I’ve been tracking this on my own for months now. My numbers suggest his actual approval rating is somewhere between 60-65%. But here’s the thing that really going to kick a few sourpusses in the teeth. My company is republican–and trying hard to reach mostly other republicans and so that means that a great many people registered to vote as Republican have told me on the question of presidential approval that they largely do approve of Obama. This Republican obstructionism seems largely centered around an angry vocal few–who clearly are not listening to their very own constituency. And I know that, because it is my job to listen to them. BTW-since I’m venting, for heavens sake GOP quit bashing your political opponents with push polls. It hurts your cause and your numbers. No republican should tell me they like Obama and then hang up on me because a 20 minute survey spent 9 minutes trashing the local democrat. Your own constituency hangs up on us for that crap. Quit writing it.

    • Tom Birmingham

      thanks for this!

  • fairness_rules

    Boy do I ever agree with this article! I have been waiting for years to see him call the repubs out for what they are. I have never seen such childish actions and stupidity as is represented by the tea party. What I really can’t believe is that some people support this stuff! What does that say about them?

  • Glenn Bruce

    Time to shake up things once and for all.. Order Reparations.

  • Stephen Barlow

    I am glad he is getting back to his roots. Speaking the truth and calling for non partisan legislation to move forward.

  • Robert Wagers

    I think Oprah said that the Republicans hate Obama because he’s black, but I’m pretty sure they would be just as stupid if Hillary had won. Oh wait, that’s right. Republicans hate blacks, women, immigrants, gays, atheists, the poor, and on and on.

    • Bine646

      You are so ignorant its unbelievable

  • Stephen Barlow

    The ACTUAL, up to date BUSH DEBT is $1.9 PLUSS 10.7…

    $12.6 TRILLION and still taxcut for the few rich counting…

  • Stephen Barlow

    let’s talk about the $200 Billion in staff for the DEC that would have PREVENTED Goldman-Sachs wonder boy Hank Paulsen from raping the Treasury to fun the losses that Goldman insured with cds’…

    MEGA CONFLICT OF INTEREST!!

  • Johnny Wishbone

    The GOP needs to take up golf so they can talk to Obama, or join him on his fund raising junkets, or vacations.