President Obama to Republicans: “You don’t get to extract a ransom for doing your job”

president-obama-republicansLate this afternoon, President Obama once again spoke publicly about the looming government shutdown and the effects it would have on a wide range of Americans.  The president spoke about how a shutdown would have a domino effect and adversely impact communities all across the country, while hurting millions of Americans in the process.

President Obama said in part:

“You don’t get to extract a ransom for doing your job, for doing what you’re supposed to be doing anyway. Or just because there’s a law there that you don’t like.”

Don’t try to tell Republicans that, however.  They’ve been insisting on governing through temper tantrums and threats rather than doing their jobs like competent adults.  Instead of working toward real compromise and taking into account what’s best for the country, Congressional Republicans have proven that they’d rather play political games in an attempt to keep affordable health care from millions of Americans.

It’s a completely symbolic nod to the far right and tea party elements of the Republican base, something that’s going to end up hurting Republicans severely — but only after they first accomplish their goal of hurting others for no good reason.

The president has repeatedly made clear that the Affordable Care Act is off the table — it was passed by Congress, signed by the president and ruled Constitutional by the Supreme Court.  Not only that but Republicans had their chance to repeal it last year when their presidential candidate based a large part of his platform around repealing the law — only to be embarrassed in his general election landslide loss to President Obama.

It’s no surprise that according to a new CNN/ORC poll, 69% of Americans say Republicans are acting like “spoiled children” rather than responsible adults.  If Speaker Boehner was serious about trying to act like an adult and keep our government at least somewhat functional, then he’d put the Senate’s continuing resolution up for a vote in the House.  But it’s clear he’s not serious.  He’s sat back and watched spinelessly as the tea party elements within Congress have called the shots.  Boehner himself has called the idea of a government shutdown “irresponsible” and has acknowledged that it would end up hurting the country and his party, but yet here we are faced with the reality of it happening tonight thanks solely to Republicans and their unhealthy obsession with “Obamacare.”

President Obama did what he could in getting this point across yet again earlier today.  “The idea of putting the American people’s hard earned progress at risk is the height of irresponsibility,” he said.  “All of this is entirely preventable if the House chooses to do what the Senate has already done.  The simple act of funding our government.”

Sadly, funding our government and acting responsible seems to fly right over the heads of most Republicans.  They’re so out of touch with reality that some of them have been trying to blame the president for “holding government hostage” — simply because the president refuses to roll back part of his legacy which was already decided to be a Constitutional law.  They’re so out of touch with reality that you have people like Congressman Blake Farenthold (R-Tex.), who today said that a government shutdown would provide federal workers with a “paid vacation.”  Many of these federal workers who would be without a paycheck while government is shut down are living paycheck-to-paycheck as is, but yet to Rep. Farenthold it would just be a big ol’ fun paid vacation since they’d “eventually, probably” get paid.  Who cares about food and bills for now, right?

When you have people who are this out of touch with reality in a position of power nationally, we all end up paying the price.  Hopefully we have finally learned our lesson — the very hard way.

Thomas Barr

Thomas Barr

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  • Nicholas Kaioken Caljean

    Forget the contractors who probably, eventually will NOT get paid for any time missed and who are living paycheck to paycheck. ugh…

  • Slingerss

    If they can’t move forward, they need to get the hell out of the way.

  • Kharon

    This author mentions that the republicans are the ones who need to learn to compromise. You are obviously one of the low information voters that just likes to pick up on catchphrases and throw them around without really understanding what they mean. The republicans were not included on the crafting of Obamacare. At no point have they been included in the process of its creation. The senate called a special session on Christmas Eve and rushed a vote through with the garbage they had in hand because they knew they would not have the votes to do it after that. You cannot exclude half the country from such a HUGE train wreck of a law and not expect these issues. The democrats have had an “our way or the highway” approach to this the whole time and have not sat down ONCE with the republicans to try to craft something BOTH sides could be ok with and yet you say the republicans need to learn to compromise. What is your idea of compromise? That half the country just shut up and put through this garbage regardless of the cost to the American people? Regardless of the jobs being lost, hours being cut, penalties being paid if they don’t get insurance, increased costs to existing health insurance prices, loss of doctors or plans they already have…the list goes on. You need to educate yourself a little better on the issues you wish to write on so you do not seem so ill-prepared to write an article for anything more than Highlights magazine.

    • Douglas_Einer

      Faux “news” perhaps-?

      When the Republican REFUSED to meet on the subject of healthcare and the Democrats decided to forge-ahead without them, then the Republicans want to blame Democrats for doing SOMETHING without them-? (Crazy)

    • Albert Wratten

      They were asked to help craft the legislation, they chose obstruction.

      • Kharon

        Where the heck have YOU been…they were excluded from ALL discussions regarding it.

      • Pat

        You are sadly mistaken to be blaming all of this on the Democrats. The Republican majority congress has been absolutely relentless against Pres. Obama. Stop defending this pack of obstructionists just because you don’t like the law. Their behavior has been reprehensible, and they will get most of the blame if there is a government shutdown, and they should!

      • Kharon

        Another low information, delusional, left wing nut job that makes crap up. Okies…

      • Pat

        You are talking about yourself, Kharon. Look in the mirror, there is the delusional one. You are the right-wing nut job. I speak the truth, and you don’t!

      • Kharon

        LOL…Really? You went with the “I know you are but what am I?” OMG…ROFLMAO

      • Pat

        Obviously you need to grow up, and accept the fact that the ACA is law. Now purchase some insurance, or get a fine, or MOVE to another country if you don’t like it. You must be a Republican because you act just like the GOP, a whiny, little crybaby that doesn’t get their way.

      • disqus_6AeSbMRBY2

        kharon is one of the brain washed FOX “News” viewers, and more to be pitied than censured. The intellectually challenged will always fall into the lowest common denominator, and therein lies the viewership of FOX, or as it should be known as, GOP/TV. Just like Reagan envisioned.

      • Dan Kistner

        One just has to “remind” kharon to wipe their chin, from ALL of the shit, spewing from their mouth! Now kharon, wipe! Well? Did you? ROTFLMFAO 🙂

      • Kharon

        umadbro?

      • Dan Kistner

        Kharon, Really? How many times do I have to tell you to wipe you chin? Well? Wipe the shit off of the floor, as well!
        Seeing how you are a tea-bagging, small-penis, anti-women, right-winged, un-American, racist, un-religious=against God, Greedy(white)OilPricks=GOP, republican’t- against We The People. You are holding The United States of America Citizens, HOSTAGE! Which makes republican’ts, ALL of you, TERRORISTS, against the USA!
        If anyone is STUPID enough to vote republican’t, you are voting AGAINST Americans, and The United States Of America. And you are voting for the terrorist tea-bagging Taliban = ttt party!
        Now don’t forget to wipe that shit off of your chin!

      • Kharon

        Cool story bro

      • Robert Downer

        So let me ask….I know you hate Obamacare….what are your thoughts on the Affordable Care Act?

      • Dan Kistner

        ROTFLMFAO

      • Dan Kistner

        Kharon, wipe the shit from your chin! Is your ass, jealous of all of the shit, that comes out of it? Well? Is it? The Federal Communications Commission (FCC) has now reclassified Fox News from a valid news source to that of satire.There will now be a running disclaimer along the bottom of the viewing screen that states, “This is not a valid news source.”
        Seeing how you are a tea-bagging, small-penis, anti-women, right-winged, un-American, racist, un-religious=against God, Greedy(white)OilPricks=GOP, republican’t- against We The People. You are holding The United States of America Citizens, HOSTAGE! Which makes republican’ts, ALL of you, TERRORISTS, against the USA!
        If anyone is STUPID enough to vote republican’t, you are voting AGAINST Americans, and The United States Of America. And you are voting for the terrorist tea-bagging Taliban = ttt party!
        Now don’t forget to wipe that shit off of your chin!

      • Kharon

        umadbro?

      • Kharon

        The House passed the CR with 2 amendments to Obamacare:

        1) They delayed, not removed, the personal mandate for one year meaning the American people would not be penalized for 1 year for not jumping into the insurance program. If I am not mistaken big business had already received this type of delay so why shouldn’t the American people be given the same opportunity? If Obamacare is so awesome and provides an incredible opportunity for Americans without insurance to finally have “affordable” insurance you would think they would jump in with both feet so why not afford them equal treatment?

        2) It removed special provisions for Congress and forces them to live by the same “wonderful” program that they are shoving down the throats of the American people. Again if Obamacare is so “fantastic” then why wouldn’t THEY be thrilled about being treated the same as us?

        From what I saw those were the ONLY amendments included. That looks a lot like compromise to me and the fact that it was voted down by the Senate just says to me that they are the ones who are unwilling to compromise. The Republicans want the whole thing shit-canned yet that is not what they passed. They passed something that was truly a compromise.

        So who are the government terrorists? Clearly the Democrats now. These 2 amendments are just common sense and fair. There is no talk of defunding, there is no talk of repealing, no talk of changing the fundamental way it works. Just to delay the mandate for the American people for one year the way they did for big business and forcing Congress and the President to live by what they are shoving down the throats of Americans.

        Do not talk about Republicans needing to compromise any longer when that is exactly what this is. If you disagree with this than you are just taking a stand against it simply because it was presented by Republicans…not for the validity of the content. Your precious Obamacare would still be funded…there just would not be a penalty for people that did not jump into it within the 1st year and Congress would be forced to join this wonderful program as well.

      • Dan Kistner

        Kharon, Kharon, Really? How many times do I have to tell you to wipe you chin? Now wipe the shit up off of the floor, too!
        Seeing how you are a tea-bagging, small-penis, anti-women, right-winged, un-American, racist, un-religious=against God, Greedy(white)OilPricks=GOP, republican’t- against We The People. You are holding The United States of America Citizens, HOSTAGE! Which makes republican’ts, ALL of you, TERRORISTS, against the USA!
        Obamacares, has NOTHING to do with keeping the government running. You pussies, are making up “SHIT”, just to not pass the Senate bill, which has been on the table, for OVER 6 months! Where have you fuckheads been, besides on the golf course?
        If anyone is STUPID enough to vote republican’t, you are voting AGAINST Americans, and The United States Of America. And you are voting for the terrorist tea-bagging Taliban = ttt party!
        Now go wipe that shit off of your chin! Wipe your mouth, also!

      • Kharon

        Cool Story Bro!

      • Pat

        I really don’t give a damn what a minority of brain-washed tea party, Fox News loving, gun-loving, racist, women haters, (except for Sarah and Michelle), gay haters, etc. say or think. Your opinions mean nothing to me. I will just sit back and watch all of you continue to make complete fools of yourselves and laugh. Oh yes, WE will have the last laugh, I guarantee it. : D

      • strayaway

        Republicans have backed off on four issues that I’m aware of. Two you didn’t list include their previous demand that the 2.3% tax on medical devices be removed and that medical personnel have the right of conscientious objection with regard to birth control. Is anyone aware of any compromise on the part of Democrats in these negotiations? Senate Democrats have, however, refused to meet with House Republicans. I’m not worried because the federal government has so much money that last month President Obama was trying to get support to rain million dollar cruise missiles into Syria.

      • Tami Tipton Halphen

        Actually, the Democrats already compromised. Many Democrats wanted Single Payer Healthcare. The Democrats caved in right away. Then when it was passed there were enough Republicans that voted for it to pass. Supreme Court (which is majority Republican nominated and approved) also ruled it constitutional. Sounds like sour grapes to me.

      • strayaway

        Obamacare prevents states from having an affordable single payer plan. Vermont tried but was hamstrung by Obamacare bureaucrats. That can hardly be blamed on Republicans. Had the 10th Amendment been observed, not a high priority with any Democrat and most Republicans, Vermont could have developed a single payer plan much like that of any Canadian province. Massachusetts already had Romneycare. Too bad Democrats ignore the possibilities that states offer and suffocated the entire country with this corporatist profit engine.

        Laws constantly get changed and eliminated. Slavery, women’s voting rights, abortion, and marriage laws, to mention a few, that were once approved by a Supreme Court have been changed or eliminated. Even the Constitution is subject to being amended. Why should Obamacare be different?

      • melloe

        The Democrats wanted single payer, but Republicans would not go along. The ACA, which is a Republican idea the Dems were forced into because the right did not think it would pass. The ACA is the result of compromise. Want to blame someone for not having single payer, you are looking at the wrong people. “Why should the ACA be different?” Right now because it is LAW, and to change a Law requires the same process as to make one. You don’t try to sneak it into budget negations because you know you don’t have the votes to change it.

      • melloe

        @stayaway OOPS FAIL wrong ..” Senate Democrats have, however, refused to meet with House Republicans”. wrong Senate has been trying to get boner to meet since March MARCH The budget they are supposedly arguing over is the result of compromise. As for the ACA, you don’t compromise about a a LAW in budget sessions. You don’t compromise with terrorists

      • strayaway

        Terrorists? I thought terrorists were people who collapsed buildings and disfigured people in places like Boston and Kenya or shot cruise missiles into Pakistani wedding receptions. You must exercising hyperbole.

        Laws are modified and eliminated all the time. Otherwise we would still have slavery, women couldn’t vote, gays couldn’t marry, etc.. What is compromised in a budget session except laws? It could be something besides Obamacare of course but cuts, borrowing more from our kids, and/or additional taxes are the only solutions.

        While Senate Democrats did reach out since March, House made a similar offer last week . All offers were refused by both sides suggesting mutual fault. However, in the last couple of days, both sides did get together with the President. Nothing came of the meeting but at least he got them in the same room. It’s a start. Also, Harry Reid now says that some parts of Obamacare could be delayed.

      • impartial

        false paradigm people. they’re both fucking us hard

      • Yadaa

        They have been asked TIME AND AGAIN for an alternative. They’ve given us nothing. If they put half the energy into creating a healthcare bill that DOES NOT RAPE the lower/middle class that they have trying to repeal Obamacare, MAYBE I’d listen. Hell, if they put 1/4 of that energy into job creation, the unemployment rate would probably be at zero. But it’s too much like right. The Republicans that are spearheading this fiasco don’t have to worry about healthcare–they already have it, and can afford to get sick. Me, on the other hand, I haven’t been able to go to a doctor in 6 years since I lost my insurance. I am JUST NOW able to finally afford some coverage for myself, and that is thanks to Obamacare. It may not be perfect (nothing is), but it’s better than what we have (or don’t have).

      • Kharon

        And what the House passed today did nothing to take that away from you…it only takes away the penalty for those that do not sign up for it for 1 year and forces Congress on the same program…that is all it did yet you do not see that because you are just spewing the things you have heard from others. Their latest CR does not repeal Obamacare, it does not defund Obamacare. It does nothing but give the American people what big business has been given…a 1 year period where they will not get a tax penalty for not having signed up for insurance. It does not even delay Obamacare for 1 year…just the penalty for those that do not jump right into it. Think about the people that are still unable to afford the insurance and will have to pay a penalty for not having enough money to get insurance. That is the only thing this addresses. You are against something that you do not even understand obviously.

      • Dan Kistner

        Kharon, wipe that shit from your mouth, AND chin! WHAT does Obamacares, have to do with RUNNING the Federal Government? This is SHIT, your fucked up party, is throwing into the mix! It has nothing to do with what they should have passed, 6 months ago, instead of taking all of their vacations! Bush was the president, that made a record, with how many days he took off! Now, this house, will set a record, with how many days they will have taken off!
        You are against something that you do not even understand obviously.

        Where is the jobs bill, fucktard? Is this something you don’t understand? Obviously!

        When’s the last time you’ve had a transvaginal probe? I think you might need one! Where’s your sex tape? ISN’T That, what you fucktards REALLY want?
        Being a tea-bagging, small-penis, anti-women, right-winged, un-American, racist, un-religious =against God, Greedy(white)OilPricks=GOP, republican’t- against the people of The United States of America Citizens. You are holding Americans HOSTAGE! Which makes republican’ts, ALL of you, TERRORISTS, against the USA!
        Obamacares, has NOTHING to do with keeping the government running. You pussies, are making up “SHIT”, just not to pass the Senate bill, which has been on the table, for OVER 6 months! Where have your fuckheads been, besides on the golf course?
        If anyone is STUPID enough to vote republican’t, you are voting AGAINST Americans, and The United States Of America. And you are voting for the terrorist tea-bagging Taliban = ttt party!
        How many times do you have to be told to wipe that shit off of your chin! Wipe your mouth, also! Don’t forget the floor!
        By the way, YOU GUYS L O S T the presidential election! You also, forgot to buy off the supreme court, about Obamacares! It’s the law of the land. Has been, for a while now! Don’t cry any more. Baby!

      • Dan Kistner

        The only “trickle down” the republican’ts know, is the sperm running down their mother’s leg, when they were conceived!

      • Kharon

        Here is another box of crayons for you to chew on…

      • Dan Kistner

        Kharon, remove your head from your ass! Stop looking at your hemorrhoids! Breathe fresh air! Smell the roses. Open your eyes. THINK for YOURSELF! You dumbasses lost the election! Get over it! L O S E R ! And stop repeating republican’t shit points! I’m getting tired of telling you to wipe you chin. That shit that’s spilling out of your mouth, is now dripping onto the floor! And WE are tired of always having to “clean-up” after your kind!

        Per you, The democrats have had an “our way or the highway” approach to this the whole time and have not sat down ONCE with the republicans to try to craft something BOTH sides could be ok with and yet you say the republicans need to learn to compromise. What is your idea of compromise?
        Are you fucking for real? President Barack Obama sat down with the heads of the Senate, AND the fucktards from the House, over six months ago! We Democrats gave up 95% of what we wanted to. Remember cry-baby- Boehner saying he got 95% of what he wanted, when he “COMPROMISED” with the President, and us Democrats were pissed off? You dumb ass!

      • penis

        Thank goodness we only have 1 house to elect federally in Canada which in turn generally gets a majority for 4 years. No pissing matches or useless time wasted to get anything done.

      • melloe

        My goodness how well you repeat the right wing lies.
        How were the Republicans excluded, and somehow we got the compromise of the ACA. You do understand the word compromise don’t you. Once the left accepted the ACA as a compromise, the right then wanted no part of it even though it was a right wing idea. Basically, once Obama accepted the idea, the right hated it because he liked it as a compromise. You really do need to find some new source of information

    • Pipercat

      There was no need to include them in the “negotiations,” it’s one of their ideas…

      • disqus_6AeSbMRBY2

        That’s right; it was originally Romneycare and it’s still working very well in Michigan. Romney drafted it, implemented it, and was only against it when he tried to (disastrously) run for the White House.

      • Jason Brown

        actually this health care bill was first proposed back in the early to mid 90’s by the GOP as an alternative to Clintons plans for healthcare. It was also picked up by the Heritage foundation. They wanted the individual mandate. Romney just implemented it in his state.

      • disqus_6AeSbMRBY2

        Thank you, I stand corrected. I also meant Massachusetts, not Michigan.

    • castoreum

      Kharon who’s ignorant? I’m 100% positive this bill sucks so much dick because of concession made to the repubelickings. Liberals wanted universal coverage or at least single payer. Your party had offered no solutions, no ideas, nothing! There goal all along was to shut down the government because its big and evil. its still partly owned by the people of this country and they won’t be happy till everything including government is owned by “free” enterprise.

    • Ryan

      You mean, of course, other than the fact that the ACA was the brainchild of the Heritage Foundation, was proposed by the Republicans in 1994, and was adopted by a Republican Governor for his state, and was offered as an olive branch by a new Democrat President to demonstrate his determination to govern all the people, with input and consideration from conservatives. They had no input other than that? Or do you mean that since they spat in his face, he should lie down for them so they can piss on him too? Screw you guys, it’s the law now. You can’t hold your breath until you get your way, you freakin’ children.

    • Robert Downer

      Ummm the first 2 years in office all President Obama did was try to work with the right….and YES the right was offered to help craft it. They wanted nothing to do with it….so yes the Dems “made” the law but not because they didnt alow the right in…cause the right didnt want in. The Right was protecting their constituents … big insurance company’s big Pharmacy and Big Oil…the dems (though not perfect) were thinking of the Millions of uninsured people who have “pre existing conditions” or have been dropped because they had the audacity to get sick. I myself have had to watch family member’s waste away and die due to no insurance……the right calls them selves “Pro Life” The Left IS PRO LIFE…..

      • Dan Kistner

        Robert Downer, sorry you had to endure what the republican’ts feel should be a luxury just to the rich! What we need, is the system the Australians have. Their costs are lower, government run, they have more vacation, higher min wage, less unemployment, and pay less for medication. Wow, what a concept! I was “forced” to “retire” early. I got injured on the job. Can not EVER work, and on Social Security Disability. Also covered under Medicare which only covers 80% of my medical bills. I DO NOT make enough, to pay the other 20%. NOR, do I make enough to live on, monthly. Nor, do I have a 401K. Most of it was in the stock market, for ENRON, the fucked up republican’t Texass Ponzi Scheme. The state bush & cheney used as “home”. ( Until cheney found out it was illegal for both the Pres & Vice to be from the same state) So I “feel” your pain. I just wish I could “buy” into it!

    • Dan Kistner

      Fucktard Kharon – are these the “same” ass-hats (cheney) that rewrote the Patriot Act, before congress voted on it, after hours? The retarded republicants were on a committee for Obamacares. They just ALL chose NOT to vote for it, because they didn’t sponser it. It’s almost identical to Romneyvision! And you airheads picked him as your last loser presidential candidate! Remember? Dumb-Ass!

    • melloe

      You really do need to find a new source of information. Almost everything you said above is either a lie or misinformation. The ACA was a compromise , and the Senate did that because of the Senate filibuster rule. Once the left decided to accept the rights suggestion, immediately a few Senators no longer liked it. Imagine that. Their hate for Obama so great their own idea no longer a good one.

      • Kharon

        You low information voters are absolutely hilarious…you do the deaf, dumb and blind follow well.

  • Sam

    If you’re under 30 and you’re a conservative, you have no heart.
    If you’re over 30 and a liberal, you have no brain.

    • Geoff

      Actually, if you’re any age and conservative you lack a heart and a brain.

      • Sam

        I didn’t know I was so stupid for wanting to pay my way for my healthcare and not pay for anyone else. Silly, ignorant me.

      • Albert Wratten

        Yes, silly ignorant you. Nobody is asking you to do anything sir.

      • kimberper

        Every single time you pay your insurance premium you are paying for the uninsured, you fool! The ACA isn’t just about insuring the uninsured, it’s about making healthcare affordable and it’s about stopping the insurance companies from raising rates so high that even YOU can’t afford them. Or wait, lemme guess… your employer pays yours so you don’t give a crap about anybody else. Typical republican.

      • Kharon

        The rates for the insurance is going up in most states…some are going up as much as 140%. This will only insure 5% of the population and for the cost of this program over the next 10 years it would actually be cheaper to just pay 100% of the insurance for those 5% of the population that will be getting insurance under this plan. Low information voters like you have absolutely no clue what is happening. You latch onto a few buzz words and that is where you park yourself. My wife currently has no health insurance and all this law will do is make her pay a penalty for not getting insurance because she still won’t be able to get insurance. I am a 100% disabled veteran and cannot work so I do not get insurance from an employer but rather from the VA but as my wife is one of the uninsured (and still will be) this DOES affect me. You have no idea what is about to happen and do not care because your blinders prevent you from seeing the truth.

      • Ryan

        You have, of course, sources for your ridiculous nonsensical made up bull crap numbers, yeah?

      • Kharon

        They are not made up numbers. I am sorry if you lack the ability to research crap that you support and what the outcomes would be. There are over 50 million people currently uninsured. Obamacare would provide insurance for roughly 15 million of those people as per the CBO projections. Since the population in the United States is roughly 300 million people the 15 million people amounts to 5% of the total population of the United States.

        Vermont up to 133% increase, Washington state up to 54% increase, Oregon up to a 54% increase, California up to a 23% increase, New Mexico up to 159% increase, South Dakota up to 147% increase, Virginia up to a 67% increase, Connecticut up to a 98% increase, Main up to a 20% increase with states like New York, Ohio and Colorado seeing decreases. Overall across all states we are looking at roughly a 24% increase.

        As per the CBO projections the ACA will cost 2.3 Trillion dollars in the 1st 10 actual years.

        If you consider paying $500 per month for health insurance that would be $6000 per year. If you multiply that times 10 years we have $60,000 per person for health insurance for 10 years. If you then multiply that times the 15 million people that this law would insure over and above who is already insured you get a total of $900 billion to pay 100% of the insurance for those 15 million people. Why do we need a program that would cost 2.3 trillion dollars to the tax payers, AS WELL AS raise the cost for the people already insured, to not do as well as just paying the 900 Billion to insure those people completely? Do you see why this is not a good idea? Probably not because all you see is Democrat vs. Republican. You cannot see the forest through the trees. I agree we do need health care reform but THIS is not how you get there.

      • Dan Kistner

        Kharon, wipe your chin, the shits a flowing. 111% of what you just wrote, is ALL pure shit! If you multiply 2 times 2, that still equals 4! Not 22, like you republicant’s try to say! And if you do that 1,000 times, its not 22,000, it’s still just 4!

        Now wipe your ass, that’s overflowing also!

        don’t understand? Obviously!

        When’s the last time you’ve had a transvaginal probe? I think you might need one! Where’s your sex tape? ISN’T That, what you fucktards REALLY want?
        Being a tea-bagging, small-penis, anti-women, right-winged, un-American, racist, un-religious =against God, Greedy(white)OilPricks=GOP, republican’t- against the people of The United States of America Citizens. You are holding Americans HOSTAGE! Which makes republican’ts, ALL of you, TERRORISTS, against the USA!
        Obamacares, has NOTHING to do with keeping the government running. You pussies, are making up “SHIT”, just not to pass the Senate bill, which has been on the table, for OVER 6 months! Where have your fuckheads been, besides on the golf course?
        If anyone is STUPID enough to vote republican’t, you are voting AGAINST Americans, and The United States Of America. And you are voting for the terrorist tea-bagging Taliban = ttt party!
        How many times do you have to be told to wipe that shit off of your chin! Wipe your mouth, also! Don’t forget the floor!
        By the way, YOU GUYS L O S T the presidential election! You also, forgot to buy off the supreme court, about Obamacares! It’s the law of the land. Has been, for a while now! Don’t cry any more. Baby!

      • Dan Kistner

        Ryan, yes kharon does. It’s either in his fox Pictionary, or in the back of his colorbook! But, you should be nice to him, he’s republicant, so type r e a l s l o w, s o h e c a n k e e p u p ! LMAO

      • disqus_6AeSbMRBY2

        You guys crack me up; the ACA is only today open for people to shop for insurance, and it won’t go into effect till January. You’re bitching about not getting your cheeseburger and the restaurant isn’t even open yet. You’re all going to look pretty silly when all the furor dies down, and people find out that they like Obamacare an awful lot.

      • Dan Kistner

        disqus_6AeSbMRBY2
        Can I have cheese on mine, and some fries, also? LMAO
        You have to type s l o w , kharon is a republican’t!

      • Robert Downer

        You know..90% of people you quote 85% of stats over the last 10 years without anything to back up what they are saying,are pulling numbers out of there arse 100% of the time…..see just because you throw in percents into what you say…dosnt mean you know what you are talking about. Oh that’s right the Republicans NEVER lie….LOL

      • Dan Kistner

        Kharon, you do know CBO ISN’T a railroad, don’t you? Wipe your chin, shit’s still a spewing!

      • Robert Downer

        If you have insurance this is not going to affect you other then the fact your insurance cant drop you if you get sick and cant refuse for pre existing conditions…..

    • Al Gaige

      That was wrong when Winston Churchill first coined the phrase. To be liberal simply means to look at complicated situations from a lot of different angles. To be conservative is to scrutinize an issue and reasonably ascertain its benefit or lack of benefit for society. They are both admiral ways of looking at problems and solutions for those problems.

    • Robert Downer

      That was kinda true when the Right wasn’t taken over by the Teabaggers…..you do realize that unless you guys do something the Repubes are going the way of the dinosaur right? And as left as I lean I would really like to see the real Republican party come back….we need both sides..but sadly right now the right is so extreme its not even funny…..

  • Douglas_Einer

    Why do I get the feeling that if it were threatened to de-fund the Corporate/Military-Industrial-Complex,…..that things would be getting handled a Whole-LOT-differently-?

    I was also under the impression that the Affordable Care Act ‘WAS’ the “compromise”-?

    What we NEED is Universal Health Care for all in America-? (Single-Payer, Medicare for all, etc.)

    The ACA ‘IS’ a ‘baby-step’/compromise towards that goal. IMPO (I’m hoping)

    • Joni

      Did you even read the bill?

      Did you read any word of it besides what the media has dramatized?

      • Albert Wratten

        yes I’ve read the bill. What’s your point?

      • Douglas_Einer

        I ‘wonder’ how many Republican lawmakers /Faux-“news”-watchers read any word of it before,……..(continue),…..

      • Suzanne Smith

        Joni, this is not JUST about the affordable care act, Republicans are trying to push their sick agenda, of allowing the Keystone Pipleline, coal and carbo emissions to be set back in play allowing for terrible pollution and devastating ruin to water and farmlands. They are hiding some sick bills in that mix of “compromise” Its very unfair to the American people, and panders in the worst possible sense to the rich and Right wing. I truly think these Obstructionist GOP members need to be tried for treason!

      • Kharon

        No…the president needs to be impeached for his constant lies and deceit. The Republicans are just standing up for the majority of the American people that do not want any part of this piece of crap legislation

      • Pipercat

        You wouldn’t mind enlightening the rest of the gang on exactly which high crimes and misdemeanors that have been so egregiously been committed…

      • impartial

        -murder of an American citizen without due process.
        -invading Libya without a declaration of war.

      • Pipercat

        -positing cherry picked nonsense and “true-real-facts.”

      • Dan Kistner

        Impartial- are ya dumber than hammered shit?
        Wipe your chin, the shits a spewing from your mouth!
        1.) Murder, etc. racist Florida, republican’ts & the NRA said Trayvon Martin got due process, called stand your fucking ground, and shoot a minor
        2.)The first time America invaded Libya from: National Constitution Center
        NCC Staff October 5, 2012
        In modern times, the “shores of Tripoli” are best known as a verse in the Marine anthem. Today, Tripoli is the biggest city in Libya, with 2.2 million people.
        But Tripoli back in 1805 was literally a pirates’ den that was a huge thorn in the side of three U.S. presidents: George Washington, John Adams and Thomas Jefferson.
        It took actions started by Jefferson, and then later by James Madison, to send U.S. military forces to the region, without a Declaration of War from Congress. The legislature did approve the military actions by statute, in a manner similar to some recent U.S. actions.
        Article I, Section 8, of the Constitution gives Congress the power to declare war. But it specifies little else in the process. The War of 1812 was the first one that saw a Declaration of War approved by Congress.
        Before that 1812 declaration, three U.S. military actions were sanctioned by the president and Congress without a war declaration: the Quasi-War with France, and two military campaigns in North Africa.
        The rulers of Tripoli had a long history of raiding and capturing ships. It was part of what was called the Barbary Coast in North Africa, which also contained Algeria, Morocco and Tunisia.
        Merchant ships from the United States had received protection from pirates from the British navy during the Revolutionary War era, but that ended in the 1780s, and the Barbary pirates started capturing American ships in the Mediterranean Sea, asking for ransom or tribute.
        The first attack in 1784 resulted in American sailors being held in slavery for ransom. Eight years later, the U.S. Congress agreed to pay $1 million to the Barbary States in exchange for peace.
        The crisis led to the United States creating its first Navy, even though Presidents Washington and Adams continued to send payments to North Africa for safe passage.
        One Founding Father who was opposed to the payments was Thomas Jefferson, who stopped the policy when he replaced Adams as president in 1801.
        Tripoli then started capturing American ships again, but Jefferson sent the U.S. Navy, instead of tribute, to the Mediterranean. The Navy blockaded the port of Tripoli as hostilities started.
        However, neither Jefferson or Congress declared war on Tripoli, even though the Pasha of Tripoli made his own war declaration, after Jefferson refused to pay an annual $225,000 tribute to him.
        At first, Jefferson sent naval forces to the Mediterranean to defend American interests, without asking Congress for a war declaration. He then asked Congress to expand the powers of these forces to take the attack to the pirates.
        Congress didn’t declare war either, but it passed the Act for Protection of Commerce and Seamen of the United States Against the Tripolitian Corsairs, which gave the Navy and the Marines the power to “subdue, seize and make prize of all vessels, goods and effects, belonging to the Bey of Tripoli, or to his subjects.”
        After several historic battles, which included a coordinated land-sea attack by the U.S. Navy and Marines on the city of Derna, Tripoli signed a peace treaty with the United States in 1805.
        Full hostilities wouldn’t end in the region for another decade, after the U.S. Navy returned in 1815 and confronted Algeria, which was raiding American ships. That action was approved by another Founding Father, President James Madison.
        Congress authorized military activities in the region, but didn’t declare war.
        The U.S. Navy made short work of the Algerian forces and a stricter peace pact was put in place.
        The last declared war in American history was World War II. Since then, U.S. forces have seen action in Korea, Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan without a war declaration.
        SO…… are you going to impeach presidents: George Washington, John Adams, Thomas Jefferson and James Madison for sending U.S. military forces to Libya, without a Declaration of War from Congress.
        And then the Presidents that were in office during the Korean, Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan Wars, see how they also were WITHOUT a Declaration of War from Congress? Well, are ya? Ya sure seem to talk big, WITHOUT the “facts”! Fucktard!,
        Now, did ya wipe your chin?
        Some Political Parties are for US, and some are AGAINST us! The tea-bagging, small-penis, anti-women, right-winged, un-American, racist, un-religious=against God, Greedy(white)OilPricks=GOP, republican’ts – are against We The People. They are holding The United States of America Citizens, HOSTAGE! Which makes republican’ts, ALL of you, TERRORISTS, against the USA!

      • Jharon

        Yes the “majority” the same ” majority” that voted Obama out of the white house in order to have this bill revoked? Yep keep sniffing that glue buddy.

      • disqus_6AeSbMRBY2

        President Obama has done nothing remotely impeachable and the majority of the American people voted to reelect him over the man who vowed to repeal Obamacare “on Day One.” So which “majority” exactly are you imagining? You really need to stop watching FOX “News.” You do realize that they sued for (and won) the right to lie to their viewers, right?

      • impartial

        if you say so. but he did lie about every single campaign promise he made

      • Dan Kistner

        Kharon – You are so fucking dumb- wipe the shit from your fucking chin! If lying was an impeachable offense, WHY WASN”T FUCKTARD BUSH IMPEACHED? Where are those non-existent weapons of mass-destruction? Shit head, Majority = MOST! Man are you a dumb-ass! 69% of Americans say Republicans are acting like “spoiled children” rather than responsible adults. If Speaker Boehner was serious about trying to act like an adult and keep our government at least somewhat functional, then he’d put the Senate’s continuing resolution up for a vote in the House. But it’s clear he’s not serious. He’s sat back and watched spinelessly as the tea party elements within Congress have called the shots. Boehner himself has called the idea of a government shutdown “irresponsible” and has acknowledged that it would end up hurting the country and his party, but yet here we are faced with the reality of it happening tonight thanks solely to Republicans. 69% IS THE MAJORITY, blaming this shit on the refucktards, like you! 64% of AMERICANS want Obamacares! It goes up to 73% if you call it Affordable Health Care, or Affordable Car Act, BECAUSE you ass-bags don’t know it’s the same thing! Shithead! There has been an ongoing dispute about the legitimacy of the content put out by Fox News. Between the amount of complaints and discredited stories by varying myth-busting sources, the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) has now reclassified Fox News from a valid news source to that of satire.
        The FCC cannot classify Fox News as purely entertainment-based fiction because their stories contain the names, places and actions of legitimacy. This decision to classify Fox News as satire did not come easily, because many see the news network as well-founded and they should have the freedom of speech to report as they so choose.
        A statement put out by the FCC says, “The decision to classify Fox News as satire has come after several years of evaluation regarding the sources of their reporting and the bias of their programming. While much of their content is based on legitimate news, it is spun is a way that cannot not be deemed newsworthy to the viewing public. If Fox News so chooses to report actual news stories of legitimacy without skewing the content we may overturn our decision and reclassify the network to a valid news source once again.”
        It seems the FCC is leaving the decision to be an actual news source up to the programming directors and others in charge at News Corp. Both Rupert Murdoch and Roger Ailes have not been able to be reached for comment.
        As far as programming, it will be business as usual, but there will now be a running disclaimer along the bottom of the viewing screen that states, “This is not a valid news source.”
        REPEAT: There has been an ongoing dispute about the legitimacy of the content put out by Fox News. Between the amount of complaints and discredited stories by varying myth-busting sources, the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) has now reclassified Fox News from a valid news source to that of satire.
        As far as programming, it will be business as usual, but there will now be a running disclaimer along the bottom of the viewing screen that states, “This is not a valid news source.”Some Political Parties are for US, and some are AGAINST us! The tea-bagging, small-penis, anti-women, right-winged, un-American, racist, un-religious=against God, Greedy(white)OilPricks=GOP, republican’ts – are against We The People. They are holding The United States of America Citizens, HOSTAGE! Which makes republican’ts, ALL of you, TERRORISTS, against the USA!
        If you are STUPID enough to vote republican’t, you are voting AGAINST Americans, and The United States Of America. And you are voting for the terrorist tea-bagging Taliban = ttt party!

      • kat karsecs

        GO fuck yourself.

  • Marilyn Zack

    And you mr. President are acting like a bully and america doesn’t negotiate with bullies. I say shut down the government. Maybe you will listen.

    • Kharon

      AMEN!

      • Dan Kistner

        Kharon, now you are religious, also? How much shit, do you have on your chin? Get a wipe!

    • Pipercat

      Ah, nothing like Rovian projection with a hint of indignation! Bravo!!

    • kimberper

      A bully??? Guess what? OBAMA WON!!!!! America VOTED FOR THE ACA!!! GET OVER IT!!! President Obama is making GOOD on his promises to his voters!

      • Kharon

        The majority of Americans DON’T want ACA. The problem was no one knew what was in it. had they known he would never have been reelected. Coincidence? NOPE! He knew he would not get reelected if they knew which is why the statement was made “in order to find out what is in it we have to pass it”

      • Pipercat

        That’s because they still don’t know what’s in it. They sure as hell know all about twerking though!

      • Ryan

        So, in four years, nobody found out what was in it? Can you guys read, or what?

      • disqus_6AeSbMRBY2

        Wrong again. FOX is feeding you lies, and you lap it up like the good little low information voter that you are. Do everyone a favor and don’t breed.

      • Dan Kistner

        Kharon, you ARE a LIAR! Your parents failed! You LOST! Get over it! Seeing how you are a tea-bagging, small-penis, anti-women, right-winged, un-American, racist, un-religious=against God, Greedy(white)OilPricks=GOP, republican’t- against We The People. You are holding The United States of America Citizens, HOSTAGE! Which makes republican’ts, ALL of you, TERRORISTS, against the USA!
        Obamacares, has NOTHING to do with keeping the government running. You pussies, are making up “SHIT”, just to not pass the Senate bill, which has been on the table, for OVER 6 months! Where have you fuckheads been, besides on the golf course?
        If anyone is STUPID enough to vote republican’t, you are voting AGAINST Americans, and The United States Of America. And you are voting for the terrorist tea-bagging Taliban = ttt party!
        Now go wipe that shit off of your chin! Wipe your mouth, also!

    • Ryan

      Yes, how dare that bully President ask for the laws of the land, passed by Congress, signed by the President and ruled constitutional by the Supreme Court be funded in the budget. What. An. Asshole.

    • disqus_6AeSbMRBY2

      Obama has extended the olive branch to the Republicans again and again, only to have it smacked out of his hands every time. It’s one of the things that a lot of liberals are angry about with him. On his very first day in office, the Republicans swore that they would never cooperate with him on anything, they swore to make him a “one-term” president, (and you see how well THAT worked out,) and it’s the Republicans who have said over and over that they would not cooperate unless they got EVERYTHING that they wanted. Who’s the bully here? Our President doesn’t negotiate with domestic terrorists. Quit watching FOX “News.”

    • Dan Kistner

      Marilyn Zack, wipe your chin, from all of the shit that is spewing from your mouth! You are one of the dumbest fuckheads I’ve seen on here!
      You want to ruin our economy, peoples lives, their credit and credit rating, just so you fuckheads can “teach” President Obama a “lesson” for, let’s see, not making the republican’ts do their job? Where have the fucking republican’ts been, for the last 6 months?
      When’s the last time you’ve had a transvaginal probe? I think you might need one! Where’s your sex tape? ISN’T That, what you fucktards REALLY want? Are you a “whore”, or a “slut”? The leader, of your party, rush limpballs, wants to know! Maybe he can “air” it on his “show”.
      Being a tea-bagging, small-penis, anti-women, right-winged, un-American, racist, un-religious =against God, Greedy(white)OilPricks=GOP, republican’t- against the people of The United States of America Citizens. You are holding Americans HOSTAGE! Which makes republican’ts, ALL of you, TERRORISTS, against the USA!
      Obamacares, has NOTHING to do with keeping the government running. You pussies, are making up “SHIT”, just not to pass the Senate bill, which has been on the table, for OVER 6 months! Where have your fuckheads been, besides on the golf course?
      If anyone is STUPID enough to vote republican’t, you are voting AGAINST Americans, and The United States Of America. And you are voting for the terrorist tea-bagging Taliban = ttt party!
      How many times do you have to be told to wipe that shit off of your chin! Wipe your mouth and ass also! And don’t forget to wipe the floor! Do that in the reverse order that I have listed!
      By the way, YOU GUYS L O S T the presidential election! You also, forgot to buy off the supreme court, about Obamacares! It’s the law of the land. Has been, for a while now! Don’t cry any more. Baby!
      By the way, WHAT does Obamacares, have to do with running the government? You do know, this is just more trumped up shit, by your fucked up party, don’t you?
      Did you know, a WOMAN really CAN, think on her own, WITHOUT a man telling her what to do? Did you? Ya, I didn’t think so! You aren’t an intelligent Democrat woman, that can think independently! You are a fucking dumb-ass republicant female, that has to be told by a male, when to breathe! Now, go back to government history 101, and SEE WHY, one doesn’t want to SHUT DOWN our government! Dumb-ass!

  • wayne

    they are doing their job…..standing up for THE PEOPLE and not bowing to dictators

    • Dan Kistner

      wayne, wipe the shit from your mouth, if you are sticking up for the house. If you are sticking up for President Barack Obama, you ARE correct, the republican’ts ARE the DICKtaters.! More on the DICK!

  • delwayne

    Are you kidding me kharon you are blinded by conservative media! The rupublicans are acting like children saying if they don’t get it their way then they will through a temper tantrum… they need to get over themselves its a law it got passed get over yourselves

    • impartial

      causing gridlock is not a temper tantrum. do you not understand the idea of separation of powers?

  • impartial

    a question to all of you people who are making fun of fox news and the people who watch it: what sources do you use to get your news?
    for the record i agree that fox news is very lousy and i don’t watch it.
    buut CNN and MSNBC are also huge pieces of sh(propaganda and misinformation and distraction)it
    you’re just looking at things subjectively from your tribal left vs right mindset and don’t realize that your stations and sites are pushing the same bs from the other side of the false paradigm

    • Pipercat

      CBS, NPR, Reuters, AFP, AP, BBC and yes, perish the thought, Al Jazeera America…

      • Sam Brosenberg

        AJA and the BBC are my go-to news sources, they’re pretty much the only reliable sources of information in the country. Even the NYTimes is getting more and more partisan, these days.

    • Dan Kistner

      Ipartial FUCKBRAIN-

      It’s a PROVEN fact, you are “dumber” after watching the fox, than any REAL “news” program! Former Florida Congressman Joe Scarborough, republican’t, on for 3hours, M-F on Morning Joe, is as right-winged as one can get. Morning Joe is on MSNBC. Every one of the other politically based shows, has cut down President Obama, or other Democrat Presidents, more than once. You, and all of your conservative buddies, make up ALL of your “facts”. 111% of what you say, is made up. Try watching MSNBC for one day, before you make up the shit you do. CNN is MORE right-winged now, than mid of the road, like they used to be.
      Then there is shit like glenn beck, hannity, o’reilly, gretchen carlson, & rush limpballs, that do nothing, but make up shit, twist factual things and spin them negatively, to the point of lying, hatred, racist, biased crap to make the republican’t tea-baggers “hate” Americans. MSNBC programs, EXCEPT Morning Joe, DO NOT do that! I am proud to be a Democrat! If you are a republican’t, you cannot say the same thing, WITHOUT lying!
      God is the final one you have to try to lie out of, to explain your conduct! Try telling the truth, for once in your life. It’s a refreshing experience. Too bad you’ll never experience it. You’re too stupid! Just saying…….. the “facts” hurt, don’t they! Maybe, you could find a teacher, that could read this to you. God knows, you can’t! Your kind, can think for yourselves!
      ALL of the republican’t talk shows, radio OR tv, the hosts are WELL paid! They haven’t a clue, what it’s like to live in our poor class shoes! BUT they fucking act like they are one of us, or are fighting for us. ALL they are fighting for, is the last few pennies, we have. I used to be one of the upper middle class members! Then the republican’ts FUCKED up the economy! Reagan, Bush Sr,, and Bush Jr., ALL had a hand in fucking up Americans!
      So, impartial, to answer your question,WE listen to a lot of the different shows, on BOTH sides, just not radical, racist limpballs, beck, or The 700 Club any more! WE can’t stomach that much bullshit!
      By the way, how does Romney get away with “giving” so much $ tax free, to his kids, who don’t have to pay an inheritance tax on the $? I, an American citizen, can not do that for my children!

      • Sam Brosenberg

        Dan, you’re buggin. I would never watch FOX, unless there’s a particularly funny bit of one of their anchors being humiliated on youtube (See: Reza Aslan) but to deny the fact that CNN and MSNBC do nearly as much twisting of information is just absurd, partisan, and EXACTLY the same thing that you’re bitching about Republicans doing.

        Those networks are not inviolate, just beacuse they’re “on our side.” It’s true, they don’t often flat out lie the same way FOX does, but they distort their coverage and manipulate data to prove their points in the same unethical style as FOX, just to a lesser degree.

        Attacking someone personally, who aks a reasonable question, and screaming about how awful the other side is and how nobody on your side would ever consider doing something like that, is really just indicative of either a childish mentality, or a person who is incapable of proving their point using logic and reason.

  • Katie Couric

    Wow.
    Thank God they busted the Silk Road drug market.
    You fucking libs hit your cuttoff limit quite a bit ago.

  • genocidal

    seems to me that if they keep this up, they will just make themselves obsolete as a form of government, I mean, does the SAME thing really have to be voted on a half dozen times as it makes it way into law? How efficient is that?