Rand Paul Makes Another Ridiculous Claim Proving That He Knows Absolutely Nothing

rand-paul-scaryThe more Kentucky Senator Rand Paul speaks, the more he proves that he doesn’t know what in the heck he’s talking about.  I guess with Ted Cruz getting all the “tea party love” the last few months, Paul is trying to step it up and get his name in a few headlines.

Take for instance his asinine claim that President Obama spent one trillion dollars to create government jobs.  Actually, Paul called them “make-work” government jobs.  Which is essentially Paul saying that Obama used this money to create jobs that were created just for the sake of creating a job.

Paul said:

“Mr. President, where are the jobs? You spent nearly a trillion dollars on make-work government jobs and still joblessness confronts the next generation.”

Only one problem – President Obama didn’t spend one trillion dollars on “make-work” government jobs.  In fact, you’d have to be an idiot to really believe that.

It’s a statement Politifact deemed as completely “False.”

Politifact points out that $290.7 billion actually went toward tax breaks for individual and businesses, $264.4 billion went toward entitlement programs and $261.2 billion of it went toward, “contracts, grants and loans in such areas as education, transportation, infrastructure, energy, science and health.”

They also point out that since President Obama was first elected, the government workforce has shrank by 69,000 federal employees.  Then if you factor in all federal, state and local government employees the number is much larger – 734,000 government jobs eliminated.

But don’t let those facts get in the way of good made-up propaganda.

And let’s not forget that a lot of that stimulus money was used to prevent many jobs from being cut in the first place.  If a job that would have been eliminated wasn’t due to stimulus money, to me that’s just as good as “creating a job.”

This is just more of the same blatant rhetoric Republicans use that sounds really good to conservative voters who want to hate President Obama, but it just doesn’t make sense because it’s not even remotely based on anything factual.

But as I’ve said plenty of times before, for Republicans, “factual” is often just what they want to be real instead of what actually is real.

I just wish we had more media focused on fact-checking statements by politicians.  While sites like Politifact do a great job, it seems statements like these get completely ignored by most of our media.  So someone like Rand Paul is free to say this blatant lie and nobody publicly calls him out on his absurdity.

Well, besides websites like this one.  But rarely do you see the “mainstream media” attack these politicians for their repeated lies and misinformation.

As for Rand Paul, this is just another in a growing list of statements he’s made recently that prove how little he knows about much of anything – and how desperate he is to get any kind of attention.

Allen Clifton

Allen Clifton is a native Texan who now lives in the Austin area. He has a degree in Political Science from Sam Houston State University. Allen is a co-founder of Forward Progressives and creator of the popular Right Off A Cliff column and Facebook page. Be sure to follow Allen on Twitter and Facebook, and subscribe to his channel on YouTube as well.

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  • Jim Bean

    Politician’s mouths are running non stop. There’s no way to fact check everything. Technically, Paul’s statement here is off the mark and he deserves to be challenged. On the other hand Obama lied about the ‘shovel ready’ jobs and lined the pockets of some donors (Solyndra) with some of that money and also gave kickbacks to union donors with some of it. Its a bit disingenuous to leave those elements out of the discussion because it leaves the unsuspecting reader with a perverted perception.

    • Pipercat

      I see your Solyndra and raise you three Benghazis, two 501c4s and an Acorn.

      • Jim Bean

        You may be holding the world record for the lousiest hand ever dealt.

      • Pipercat

        … and yet, oh so easy to bluff a bulge like you!

    • Why5ks

      Yes, Solyndra lost the Federal government lost the government $500K. I’m not saying that isn’t a significant amount, but how does that compare to the Bush/Cheney lies that led us to war? Those lies led to the loss of thousands of American lives and tens of thousands of Iraqi lives while funneling more than $46 billion dollars to Cheney and his friends at Haliburton?

      • Pipercat

        F-22 Raptor boondoggle is a favorite.

      • strayaway

        73% of our military casualties in Afghanistan, at last count, died under Obama’s tenure. Obama also dragged out the Iraq War until one month before the deadline the Iraqi parliament gave us to get out. He tried to negotiate an even longer stay. Don’t forget that as a candidate in 2007 Senator Obama promised that if the Iraq war was still going on when he became President that ending it was the first thing he would do.

      • Why5ks

        The Iraq war has ended, and the Afghanistan war is ending. I guess the fact that we will try to have a presence in Afghanistan helping to continue training their forces is something evil to you. By that argument we must be a war in Japan, South Korea, Germany, Italy and about 50 other countries around the word where we have negotiated military presences. It still doesn’t negate the fact that Bush lied to get us into both wars, never paid for our involvement in the wars, and allowed many of his cronies companies to profit from that war. Obama was left with the task of getting us out of those wars without leaving a complete void to be filled by Hamas, Al Qaeda and any of a whole bunch of other terrorist organizations.

      • strayaway

        Those wars were dragged on by President Obama for as long as he could as I previously mentioned. I didn’t epen get into Obama’s executive ordered bombing of Libya and his counter-productive support for the Arab Spring, droning of other nations, attempt to bomb Syria, and disastrous military support of Syrian rebels which has since mostly wound up in the hand of Aa-Queda.

        We went into Afghanistan for two reasons. One was to get Bin Laden. the other was to eliminate the Taliban there as a reprisal for hosting Bin Laden. Obama left there years ago and could have been dealt with under a Letter of Marque and the Taliban was routed early on. Unless Afghans settle on a kinder gentler version of Islam, we are on a fools’ mission. So yes we are involved in something “evil” or at least incredibly stupid and wasteful. Yes, let’s bring most of those troops home from those other countries too. Europe is rich enough to look after itself. Obama has simply extended and continued Bush’s policies. He did not get us out of Iraq “immediately” as he had promised in his 2008 presidential run. Instead, he has encouraged the destruction of some of Al-Queda’s enemies like Khaddafi and most recently Assad.

      • Why5ks

        You really need to stop listening to Rush, Beck and FauxNews. A lot of what you just said is fantasy and lies. The bombing of Libya was the most well thought out and legal thing Obama did. He didn’t involve US troops, he merely supplied aid to the rebels. What he did was perfectly in line with the War Powers Act which Congress passed years ago. As for you assertion that Khaddafi was an enemy of Al Qaeda, are you kidding me. Unless you mean he was their enemy like Saddam was their friend…NOT!!! We did not go into Afghanistan to get Bin Laden, we did try to look for him under Bush, but we went into Afghanistan to push back at the Taliban who were trying to infiltrate Iraq. They had been kept at bay in Iraq under Saddam, but once we removed him the Taliban had no resistance locally and began to move in. As for the Taliban hosting Bin Laden, that is a lie, the Taliban were not enemies of Bin Laden but they were not “hosting” him either. A Letter of Marque huh? The stupidity of that statement alone is incredible. Why on earth would the President authorize individual citizens to carry out the foreign policy of the US? Because that is exactly what would be happening if he did that. The Taliban was not going to be routed early or ever unless we were going to go in with a total scorched earth policy and wipe out the entire region. The Taliban kept the Russians at bay for over 10 years and their numbers and power increased during that time. The same thing has happened to them since we invaded. We have helped create more terrorist by invading Iraq and Afghanistan than Islam could without our help. There was a reason that Bush 41 got in and out as soon as the objective had been reached. He and his top advisers knew a prolonged occupation couldn’t be won, too bad his son felt he could do the job better and Tricky Dicky Cheney was just gnawing at his bit to get involved in a war. The only thing you are partially right about is the use of drones. It is currently legal, but I would be willing to argue it shouldn’t be.

      • strayaway

        The Fox bit is lame. Fox supported the Bush./Obama wars.

        Everyone take note. Why5ks claims, “The bombing of Libya was the most well thought out and legal thing Obama did.” Did he mean oBOMBa? Why5ka also claims, “We did not go into Afghanistan to get Bin Laden.” (???)

        “U.S. President George W. Bush demanded that the Taliban hand over Osama bin Laden and expel al-Qaeda.” -wikipedia

        Dennis Kucinich disagrees with you about the War Powers Act. He said Obama’s bombing of Libya and his ignoring of the War Powers Act was an impeachable offense. Under the War Powers Act, not the Constitution, a president can take military action if the US is threatened. Libya did not threaten the US. The the president has to report to Congress if the action is still going on after 45(?) days. He didn’t do that either.

        The overthrow of Khaddafi was a disaster. It cause racial attacks on blacks in Libya, got weapons into the hands of Muslim radicals who took over northern Mali, resulted in a weaker Libyan government that couldn’t or wouldn’t head off Benghazi, and allowed hundreds of US surface to air weapons to wind up with Al Queda.

        Yes, a Letter of Marque. The goal of getting Bin Laden was essentially just that although performed with our military. That is why even Ron Paul voted to support the mission to get Obama. He hoped that it would be an in and out operation with the limited given objectives.

      • Why5ks

        As soon as you quote Kucinich I dismiss every opinion you utter. Libertarianism is a BS political philosophy that has no bearing in reality. The War Powers Act only applies if the US sends troops into action for more than 45 days, which didn’t happen. If it was an Impeachable offense where was the impeachment? The Republicans control the House and they are the ones who must file articles of impeachment. And it doesn’t matter if that’s what GWB said about Afghanistan, everything he said about those wars was a lie so why would anyone believe anything he said. Like why were there twice as many Americans killed in Iraq after he declare mission accomplished?

      • strayaway

        “The War Powers Act of 1973, requires the president to consult with Congress “in every possible instance” before deploying U.S. forces. An exception was made for emergencies created by attacks on the U.S. or its armed forces.” There was no emergency.'”It stipulates that a president must terminate military action 60 days after initiating it (or 90, if the president “certifies” in writing an “unavoidable military necessity” respecting the safety of U.S. forces), unless Congress approves it.” It didn’t.

        Look it up. Kucinich took the President to court over this. The charges are outlined. Obviously Other Democrats and enough Republicans like McCain supported his war. Senate democrats would never convict him of anything anyway. Show me the part of the War Powers Act that says “The War Powers Act only applies if the US sends troops into action for more than 45 days”. That’s nonsense. Attacking any country with drones is an act of war. At least if anyone shot hundreds of drones into Washington D.C. it would be.

        I don’t know where you came up with your last sentence but over 73% of US deaths in Afghanistan have occurred under Obama.

      • Pipercat

        There was no deadline, you just made that up. The status of forces agreement Iraq was in place by December of 2008. The current administration followed that agreement and at the end, withdrew all US forces in 2011. Good grief, oh he who is Fallacy Incarnate..

      • strayaway

        Pipercat, you’re just out of the loop.

        “The U.S.–Iraq Status of Forces Agreement (official name: “Agreement Between the United States of America and the Republic of Iraq On the Withdrawal of United States Forces from Iraq and the Organization of Their Activities during Their Temporary Presence in Iraq”) was a status of forces agreement (SOFA) between Iraq and the United States, signed by President George W. Bush in 2008. It established that U.S. combat forces would withdraw from Iraqi cities by June 30, 2009, and all U.S. forces will be completely out of Iraq by December 31, 2011.” -wikipedia

        I think Obama got them out on November , 2011 and was negotiating to keep some there longer prior to that.

      • Pipercat

        Coulda, shoulda, woulda. History is static, the rest is second guessing.

      • Charles Vincent

        Wasn’t Solyndra 513 million? Not 513 thousand?

      • Why5ks

        yes it was, it misspoke with my typing fingers

      • Charles Vincent

        It happens.

      • Why5ks

        I have an excuse, I only have 2 fingers on my typing hand, LOL. It is true but still funny.

      • Charles Vincent

        I would have went with the K and M keys being next to one another lol. although having 2 fingers is probably a better one.

      • white trash religious teaparty

        correct…………..

      • white trash religious teaparty

        again,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, jimbo is insulated from these facts by being temulent and regressive white trash pseudo-Christian white elitist

  • Matthew Reece

    “And let’s not forget that a lot of that stimulus money was used to prevent many jobs from being cut in the first place. If a job that would have been eliminated wasn’t due to stimulus money, to me that’s just as good as ‘creating a job.'”

    Look up “broken window fallacy” to understand why this is false, and “Austrian business cycle theory” to understand why this sort of action will cause recessions in the future.

    • Pipercat

      The QEs have done more towards that end than by any stimulus or tax break.

      • Matthew Reece

        This is true. The Fed caused the 2008 crash by lowering interest rates in 2004, which set off a wave of malinvestments in housing. QE is causing another wave of malinvestments in stocks, which will crash in another few years to cause another recession.

      • Pipercat

        You’re being far too kind, it was far more sinister than just that. It went beyond hedging and on to a no-fail option in investing. These QE programs have only created a bigger bubble. Not just equities, but commodities, debt and more.

      • strayaway

        Pipercat, I’m agreeing with you for a change.

      • white trash religious teaparty

        recessions are a part of any cycle.

    • Why5ks

      That theory doesn’t apply here because the jobs the stimulus prevented from being eliminated were safety jobs (police, fire fighter, first responders), teachers, and jobs in the auto industry. These are not jobs that were saved just to keep people from collecting unemployment, they were jobs that many municipalities and states would have been forced to lay off because of the drastic loss of revenue. The auto industry jobs were vital to stabilizing the economy because 1 in 5 jobs in this country supports of is supported by the auto industry. Allowing that industry to collapse would have forced this past recession into a depression worse than the one from last century. Part of the reason it was needed was our own government policies had made our domestic auto industry operate at a disadvantage for decades. By doing a forced control bankruptcy of GM and Chrysler allowed for our domestic manufacturing to finally compete with imports on quality and price.

      • Matthew Reece

        The broken window fallacy always applies, because all stimulus money must come from somewhere, and if it had been left where it was, it could have been put to some other use by people who are subject to market incentives in their decision making. But as there is no way to count a job that was not created, a product that was not manufactured, or a business that never opened, this cost is hidden.

        You are correct to note that government interventions in the economy lead to more government interventions. The correct course of action is to undo the original intervention as much as possible, not to have a massive bailout. The market can clear and correct itself if allowed to, just as it did in 1920-21.

      • strayaway

        What enumerated power does the federal government have to pay for local teachers, police, etc.? Those are local or state responsibilities.

      • Why5ks

        @Strawaway, please don’t try to sound intelligent. The Federal government has the authority to pay for anything it wants to pay for so long as the funds are appropriated by the House. I guess you don’t realize that a major portion of every local school budget comes from the Fed. The stimulus package was passed and appropriated and money was divided up to the states with expressed condition of preventing lay offs of educators and first responders. The local and state governments do administer the teachers, police, etc. but maybe you weren’t aware that the federal government also dictates through laws some of the parameters within which they must operate. Maybe you’ve heard of the federal program “No Child Left Behind”? It sets standards that school district must achieve of lose much of their federal money.

      • Pipercat

        The assistance, with condition, is offered and acceptance is voluntary. Consideration is the funding. Sounds like a contract to me.

      • strayaway

        Wrong. The Federal government is supposed to abide by the Constitution; even the 10th Amendment. I realize that it often does not. School budgets should be local and state issue for the same reason. Each state already has it’s own DOE so the federal DOE is largely redundant except probably for managing the District of Columbia, providing education for federal employees, an some other restricted uses. Get rid of “No Child Left Behind” with the rest of the Federal DOE. One practical way to do this might be to block grant some of the Federal DOE money to state DOE’s for a few years until the states could raise their own revenue to accomplish similar things if they so chose.

      • Why5ks

        You are dumb, dumb, dumb. Please stop trying to think. You don’t know what you are talking about so please help the conversation by not contributing you idiotic points that have no basis in reality.

      • strayaway

        I would like to take you back to your previous comment, “The Federal government has the authority to pay for anything it wants to pay for so long as the funds are appropriated by the House.”
        Where did you read that in the Constitution or are you sorta winging it?

      • Why5ks

        Doesn’t need to be specifically in the Constitution. But since like most ultra conservatives you do not have the ability to link thoughts, facts and ideas into a coherent thread let me try to help. The Congress has the right to tax, the House of Representatives has the constitutional duty to apportion the distribution of those tax dollars, the Federal Government has authority to promote the general Welfare of the country, and the constitution also states that all citizens are entitled to due process. Now I understand how this part may be confusing to you, but in this case “due process” also translates to the fact that all citizens are entitled to have the federal government equalize the distribution of government resources. In short even though there are many authorities that the Constitution gives to states that doesn’t mean the federal government doesn’t have an interest in the administration of those programs. The federal government has the responsibility that minimum standards are met in education, safety, welfare, roads, and numerous other programs. Most of the programs ignoramuses, like you, think are purely “states rights” programs are majorly funded through the federal government.

      • strayaway

        Ok, I’ve got it! If as according to you, ” The Federal government has the authority to pay for anything it wants to pay for so long as the funds are appropriated by the House” is not a Constitutional power, then it must be an imaginary power. “The general welfare”, by the way, is the opposite of parochial interests. Government is not supposed to, for instance, pass laws serving corporate lobbyists wishes at the expense of the general welfare. It is does not mean massive welfare programs as pioneered and defined by Roosevelt 160 years later. Where does the Constitution say that the federal government has the responsibility that minimum standards are met in education, safety, or welfare? If it doesn’t, those functions belong to the States and the people. Roads are mentioned with respect to establishing the post office. There might be some leeway for education regarding promoting “the useful arts”. Eisenhower justified the interstate highway system as a defense project. Prior to Roosevelt, however, It was thought necessary to amend the Constitution to institute a new form of taxation and even prohibition. Remember that our Country is describes as a “Union” of states. States have great power. The Constitution spells out the additional and limited powers of the federal government and offers an amendment process to expand those powers. That’s why the House doesn’t have the “authority to pay for anything it wants to pay for so long as the funds are appropriated by the House.” Another requirement is that the Constitution has to provide the power to do so.

      • Why5ks

        Can someone please return strawaway to his padded cell. He has no understanding of how government actually works. He has no understanding of how it doesn’t matter if you like it or not it works that way anyway. He also doesn’t understand that if the Supreme Court says it’s allowed to work that way then it becomes Constitutional. But then again what can I expect from the looney fringe, they vote people who tell them how bad government is and how ineffective it is. Those same people get elected and do everything in their power to make government ineffective. Look moron, I never defended how our morons in Washington choose to send all our money to rich people and sell our rights to the highest bidder. I was merely explaining the legal justifications for how it happens. Now grab your ears and expose you eyes to daylight, you have spent too much time with your head buried in the butt of a libertarian.. I’m done with you, you aren’t worth my time. God, please strike me dead, I’m right now wishing I had talked with a tea partier instead of a libertarian.

      • strayaway

        You are still ducking the stupid thing you claimed about the House being able to pass anything it wants without regards to what the Constitution says. But yes, for practical purposes, the law of the land is whatever the supreme Court says it is whether on not it is what the Constitution says. That’s why you have to defend its ruling that corporations are people to be consistent. This type of sheeple think reminds me of the Church locking up the Bible for centuries because only the Church elite could understand it. You need someone to think for you Why5ks. Imagine what a scary place the world might be if there weren’t people to think for you. Your biggest threat is when the proverbial little boy comes along and says out loud that the Emperor, you so revere, doesn’t have a magnificent set of clothes or point out that the 10th. Amendment still exists in the Constitution though courts often choose to ignore it.

      • white trash religious teaparty

        his cell isn’t padded,,,,,,,,,,,,,, nor the pew in his regressive house of VOODOO ( see: church)

      • Why5ks

        are you trying to tell me strayaway is the albino from “The Divinci Code”?

      • white trash religious teaparty

        uncertain but he is without doubt a typical regressive white trash crybaby,,,,, hit him with indisputable facts and he doesn’t reply or does the spin

      • white trash religious teaparty

        “there U go again……….” ———- spouting facts to a granite skulled regressive

      • white trash religious teaparty

        stop eviscerating him,,,,,,,,,,,,,
        he might have a hot sister just as stupid as him.
        perfect predatory target she may beeeeeeeeeeeee

      • white trash religious teaparty

        “federal govt to abide by constitution”……………….OK!
        please explain the regressive republicans in HOUSE shutting down GOVT by NOT abiding by constitution ( SEE: ACA)

      • white trash religious teaparty

        luv ur abuse of that cretin

    • Charles Vincent

      Hey if your interested in that discussion I find me and I will invite you to the group mentioned I mentioned where it was at and were to find me you have my name and such look forward to seeing you in the discussion group.

      • Matthew Reece

        Just send me a link to the group as a reply or private message.

      • Charles Vincent

        https://www DOT Facebook DOT com/groups/740592652631875/

        Is the group make a request to join and I will add you we are currently discussing a new base currency that would replace the dollar and be backed by a constant value commodity.

  • nextstep99

    Never want to let the truth get in the way of good story — whether it be fox news and their viewers, or a republican and his voters.

  • Why5ks

    The Karl Rove theory of politics says, “Telling a lie serves two purposes. First, it allows you to control the debate by forcing you opponent to confront your lie and thus pulls him/her of the point they are trying to control the debate with. Secondly, the most important thing it does is place your lie into the mind of supporters and it will be passed along as fact. Your supporters will not fact check you, lazy people will not fact check you and people who are looking to be mad will not fact check you.”

    • Marlene Ross

      It is mind-control….psychological conditioning of those who are happy to be non-thinkers

      • Charles Vincent

        So saith the mindless drone.

      • white trash religious teaparty

        hey chuckie—————— hows the president making o’reilly look lame sunday taste?
        (OOOOPs——- FOX “news” claims the opposite)
        karl rove got THAT strategy correct

      • Charles Vincent

        That’s not what I took away from it, but O’Reilly makes himself look like a tool by interrupting with off the cuff questions. Let the guy finish speaking FFS

      • white trash religious teaparty

        if u watched the Bernie sanders/ michelle Bachmann diatribe on CNN recently U will see it is the way of the FOX “news” strategy. Interrupt when facts are being presented. Interrupt when “opponent” is lathering you with stuff which makes YOUR point irrelevant
        I love the rightwing. similar to haughty wanna be cheerleaders in high school

      • Charles Vincent

        Ehh both sides do it and either way it makes the people that do it look like asshats. As for the video of sanders an Bachman the moderator was an asshat for not controlling the “debate” better. In the end I thought both had valid points and to some extent they agreed of things.

      • white trash religious teaparty

        her so-called valid points were ( as usual) topical with no definitions regarding policies to implement. ” cut taxes to create jobs”…………….. that’s as old as playing “in a gadda da vida” as a modern rock song

      • Charles Vincent

        Sounds like the rhetoric that comes out of all politicians mouths to me. Tax cuts don’t create jobs, demand for labor creates jobs, lower taxes in theory allow business to have more capital to invest into a new market which creates the demand for labor.

      • white trash religious teaparty

        agreed———– but we have 2000-2008 as proof that tax cuts are useless unless administered to SMALL businesses

      • Charles Vincent

        And when taxes are cut, government spending should be cut accordingly as well.

      • white trash religious teaparty

        ok! lets start with subsidies to HUGE mega profitable companies; the military machine and congressmens salaries ( congress should be on 100% commission)
        ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, also start taxing all religious houses and the NFL

      • Charles Vincent

        I wasn’t aware that pro sports franchises didn’t pay taxes. I would be happy if congress got the same pay as the vets got( not the brass the gropo’s). Taxing religious institutions might be a violation of church and state separation. And that would open up all exempt organizations to taxation I would think.

      • white trash religious teaparty

        churches are a business; witness mega cars and huge shiny “chapels” for the canards behind that push. don’t know about other pro leagues but NFL no tax since 1966….. no wonder they flourish- why not tax all exempt organizations? make it worth their while or have them show TRUE “charity” work instead of the silly elmer gantry clones over-populating our lands.

        legalize weed; cocaine and prostitution- and gambling. tax and regulate: make them safer/ keep monies in America. screw mafia and cartels. that will cutback in the HUGE amount of lawyers ( easing over litigation)/ coast guard/ heavily burdened police. Tax all stock trades ( in and out) and throw a 2 cent ( merchant and buyer) on all internet purchases.
        heavily tax all NON medical booooob–jobs and other low self esteem cosmetic surgeries. lips/butt/calf/ hairline/ tattoos…especially tattoos

      • painkills2

        “Porn is for grown-ups.” painkills2

      • white trash religious teaparty

        agreed————— but its pretty dull these days : unless U like tons of tattoos and skanky BOOOOOOOB–JOBS

      • Charles Vincent

        Well isn’t the saying all things in moderation?

      • white trash religious teaparty

        ive worked in an industry with 1000’s of chics,,many many many with fake tits–I have sexed 17 of them. NO MODERATION: its gross. tattoos? none on me,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, loserville. some things not in moderation: examples– fire ants/eating liver/ shooting heroin/ listening to lady gaga

      • Charles Vincent

        fire ants are good in chocolate… thumbs down on liver

      • white trash religious teaparty

        look up the suicide ratio increase in NON medical BOOOOOB–JOB chics; then- as warned: stay away from chics with fake tits

      • Charles Vincent

        Well I dont know any around here its probably the rural nature of the area. Women here take the all natural thing to a whole new level.

      • white trash religious teaparty

        to quote marvin gayes song ” aint nuthin’ like the real thing”
        ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,and: on a more lachrymose note: what did marvin gayes father say to marvin right before he shot him?????
        ” THIS WILL BE THE LAST 45 YOU EVER LISTEN TO”

      • Charles Vincent

        How ironic…

      • Charles Vincent

        “legalize weed; cocaine and prostitution- and gambling. tax and regulate: make them safer/ keep monies in America.”
        Already ahead of you here we voted to legalize weed already and no argument on the rest of that either its no ones business what you do as long as it doesn’t hurt someone else I say.

        “heavily tax all NON medical booooob–jobs and other low self esteem
        cosmetic surgeries. lips/butt/calf/ hairline/ tattoos…especially
        tattoos”

        These are already taxed I see no reason to tax them more. The NFL on the other hand needs to pay tax.

        “Tax all stock trades ( in and out) and throw a 2 cent ( merchant and buyer) on all internet purchases.”
        Hmm stocks yes internet no.

      • white trash religious teaparty

        internet yes: 2 cents in …2 cents out. no one would bitch yet it would generate a ton

      • Charles Vincent

        Ehh seems like a slippery slope to me first its 2 cents then a dollar then they tax even use for just surfing. Plus it wouldn’t effect people whose business is outside the US, or people who dont live here.

      • white trash religious teaparty

        a bit presumptuous—-
        vote in a tax: then it has to be voted again to be raised- just like all taxes
        U can tax those outside the country. want access? pay

      • Charles Vincent

        Not sure that internet tax qualifies as and import/export tax, at least for private people. Taxes are raised by people we have no control over they vote themselves raises I wouldn’t trust them with the administration of more taxes.

      • white trash religious teaparty

        we both are getting a bit expostulatory here

      • painkills2

        “I bought some batteries, but they weren’t included.”
        Steven Wright

      • white trash religious teaparty

        carlin and lewis black funnier

      • painkills2

        “Do Lipton employees take coffee breaks?”
        Steven Wright

      • white trash religious teaparty

        ” if U had one arm,,,,,,,,,,,how would U wash it”??

      • painkills2

        “Sponges grow in the ocean. That just kills me. I wonder how much deeper the ocean would be if that didn’t happen.” Steven Wright

      • white trash religious teaparty

        you certainly like balding comics well past their prime

      • painkills2

        “Cross country skiing is great if you live in a small country.” Steven Wright

      • white trash religious teaparty

        seems U always add to any conversation.
        lotsa liquor be thy friend? spindly gian keys?

      • painkills2

        Whitey: Damn, dude, how many avatar masks do you have?

      • white trash religious teaparty

        its a tribute to our president: I like to “change” them to annoy crybaby regressive white trash tea party scum

      • painkills2

        Trashy: I don’t think you are accomplishing your… mission. You might try tactics that are less aggressive (and offensive).

        C’mon dude, we all have to “live” in this space. I’m not against smart political points, but I don’t think yours qualifies.

      • white trash religious teaparty

        wow– im sooooooooooooo sorry! I did NOT realize how F*CKING important these social forums were to the existence of me,,,and others.

        I know that the vast majority of white trash regressive religious scum are what I hate; ergo———- offensive in decrying MY “truth”
        NOTE: IM a middle aged self employed white guy
        ………………..marinated in abject hatred of all religion

      • painkills2

        Okay, I tried to be nice. Now I’m gonna have to drop some brainyquotes on you…

        “I much prefer the sharpest criticism of a single intelligent man to the thoughtless approval of the masses.” Johannes Kepler

      • white trash religious teaparty

        using the aphorisms of others shows a terrifically limited intellect.
        …………………..hence:
        ” what ; me worry?”
        ( Alfred E newman)

      • painkills2

        What you don’t seem to have grasped is that I quit reading your posts ages ago. I just down vote them all because of your stupid avatar picture. So, if you want to continue to be irrelevant, then just keep going about your business, Whitey.

    • Charles Vincent

      Why are you still buying into the facade that there are two political parties? You are buying into the lies just as much as the people you’re lamenting about.

  • Kenny G

    Rand Paul is an idiot. He’s proven it over and over again. Why he gets any press anymore is beyond totally ridiculous! Ignore him, like a big zit, and he will eventually go away on his own!

  • johnslat

    “has shrunk,”not “has shrank”. Other than that, fine article.

  • James

    WE PAID FOR SOCIAL SECURITY AND MEDICARE !!!! It was stole by Congress it is NOT an Entitlement Program ! We Disabled Veterans paid for ours too! If you can’t Honor the Contracts with Soldiers don’t make them !

    • roger

      i agree..you guys saved their sorry asses and they made billions of dollars off of your blood..they need to be kicked and thrown into the ditch.if anyone votes republican they deserve what they get..i can’t stand them and the all for me,me me me attitude..when are you going to kick their asses out of your lives?

      • Charles Vincent

        democrats had their hand in the SS and medicare pot as well so claiming it was only the republicans is not only ignorant it is absurd.

      • roger

        dickhead..keep voting them into office and you will be left without any clothes on your backs

      • Charles Vincent

        Why do you assume I voted for either of those parties?
        My statement only espoused that the Democrats are equally culpable of looting the SS and medicare funds as the Republicans.

      • white trash religious teaparty

        gonna have 2 MILDLY agree with chuckie here

  • Nick

    “While sites like Politifact do a great job…”

    Stop right there. Politifact does a “good” job, not a “great” one. They do put in a lot of work, and they are largely reliable. But on multiple occasions they have taken a lazy approach to their fact-checking and calling things true that were half-true at best, or sometimes the other way around. I do go to them a lot, but I don’t take what they say as full truth. In fact, MSNBC host Rachel Maddow has gone on more than one tirade about Politifact not doing a good job.

  • sandman839

    This is the kind of speech he gives without plagiarism.

  • THaggerty

    It seems to me to be just a lot of shifting of numbers. Money was spent to create jobs; other funds to destroy jobs. That is a budget maker’s job but in the end this one does not yet look pretty. Should all books come due at present we are in same boat as just prior to depression era. Let’s pray we can refocus via bipartisan temperament.

  • Susan Acciaiuoli

    Rachel Maddow does a good job of calling a lot of them out.

    • white trash religious teaparty

      that’s why they fear her——-as they did olbermann

  • Green_Devil

    Please, Rand Paul or any other right wing teatard could go on Fox and say Obama’s actually a hydra-headed mooslem who eats living puppies and every Fox viewer would accept that as the truth. Facts mean NOTHING to these people and fact-checking them doesn’t make a squat of difference.

  • Chris Carlin

    ARRA was indeed sold to the public as a make work (job creation) effort. It did cost over $800 billion. Thus Paul’s quote is essentially correct, and if a lot of that money was spent on things other than creating jobs, that just means it was misspent.

    The only part of Paul’s quote that’s wrong is the word “government.” Even that is arguably correct, though, as the claims in support of ARRA often suggested it would go to help government jobs.

  • adcbeast

    Politifact sucks as well