Recent CDC Study Debunks Common Right-Wing Propaganda Against Socialized Health Care

obama-thumbs-upIn a fairly hilarious twist, an article I ran across on of all places (re-hosted from the Associated Press) tells us of new data coming from the CDC that shows historic improvements in the average life expectancy for Americans. It also states that while our infant mortality rate dropped to historic lows, it’s still much higher than in many European countries.

And can you guess what all of those countries which have a better infant mortality rate have in common? Spoiler alert: It’s universal health care.

They also lead the United States in average life expectancy as well.

But…but, I thought the Affordable Care Act (and universal health care in general) would lead to more people dying? Isn’t that what Republicans have been saying for years? Well, if that’s the case, why did we just have a historic rise in average life expectancy between 2010-2012? You know, the years “Obamacare” began rolling out?

And why if socialized health care is such a “death sentence,” do all of these countries that provide it have much better infant mortality rates and life expectancies than we do?

Here are the two key findings from the CDC study:

— U.S. life expectancy for a child born in 2012 was 78 years and 9 1/2 months, up about six weeks from life expectancy in 2010 and 2011. That’s a record.

— The infant mortality rate dropped again slightly, to a new low of 5.98 per 1,000 births. That’s a historic low, but the U.S. infant mortality rate continues to be higher than in most European countries.

I added the bolding to emphasize those two parts.

To further back up the absurdity behind this anti-socialized health care propaganda from the Republican party, let’s take a look at the life expectancies and infant mortality rates of Spain, Germany, Italy, the United Kingdom and Canada (all nations with universal health care) against the United States.

  • Spain: Life Expectancy – 81.47, Infant Mortality Rate – 3.33
  • Germany: Life Expectancy – 80.44, Infant Mortality Rate – 3.46
  • Italy: Life Expectancy – 82.03, Infant Mortality Rate – 3.31
  • United Kingdom: Life Expectancy – 80.42, Infant Mortality Rate – 4.44
  • Canada: Life Expectancy – 81.67, Infant Mortality Rate – 4.71
  • United States: Life Expectancy – 78.75, Infant Mortality Rate – 5.98

If you just look at simple facts, the case against universal health care is closed. It saves lives – period.

The numbers in these other countries aren’t just slightly better, they’re drastically better. People in Canada, right on our own northern border, are living nearly three years longer than we are. To put that into perspective, people living in Mexico have an average life expectancy of 75.43 years. Meaning that, as far as life expectancy goes, we’re about the same distance from being equal to Mexico’s average life expectancy as we are Canada’s. That’s absolutely embarrassing.

Nothing against Mexico, but you really can’t compare the level of modernization within that country with the United States. Though you can compare it with Canada. But you don’t even need to just look at Canada. Every one of those European nations with universal health care is kicking our butt when it comes to these vital mortality numbers.

And this data from the CDC shows that since the Affordable Care Act has started rolling out, our average life expectancy saw a historic increase.

This is why I can’t have a sensible debate with people when it comes to this issue. Because there is no debate. The overwhelming evidence proves that when a nation has universal health care, their citizens live longer and infant mortality rates drop.

The question every American should be asking the Republican party is: Why are they trying to prevent Americans from living longer, healthier lives?

Allen Clifton

Allen Clifton is a native Texan who now lives in the Austin area. He has a degree in Political Science from Sam Houston State University. Allen is a co-founder of Forward Progressives and creator of the popular Right Off A Cliff column and Facebook page. Be sure to follow Allen on Twitter and Facebook, and subscribe to his channel on YouTube as well.


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  • bob

    Americans eat too much and have far too much suger.

    • Steve Brains

      Don’t forget the legally sanctioned poisons of Tobacco, Alcohol and Firearms. If we legalized weed, we would END half of the drug crime, AND gain enough revenue to solve the debt AND deficit problems.

      We would EMPTY the FOR PROFIT JAILS. The reason I drank rather than smoke is that i didn’t enjoy getting buzzed enough to justify risking a 20 year Prison sentence for a bag of happy. Just white collar guys who REALLY hurt people by the thousand and destroy lives by the hundreds get to enjoy their golden parachutes and play golf on Federal minimum security courses IF….
      …. they even get prosecuted at all.

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  • Steve Brains

    WOW!!! Less people are dying and fewer are terminal. It not only proves that Obamacare is working better than planned, it DISPROVES that for profit healthcare in America id “The best in the world”.

    It also points out how BADLY we need to remove the upper limit on SocialSecurity contributions. Romney should be putting in half a million a year into the system. The real reason they have fought this so hard is that BUSINESS would actually have to pay DOUBLE in FICA if the limit were raised or revoked. that would price American goods out of some markets.

    But with RECORD PROFITS through out the worst recession since 1929, this necessity and the $12 minimum wage should not be an issue for corporations. They can afford o solve pay inequality. My answer is make all publicly traded corporations 50% profit sharing with ALL EMPLOYEES EQUALLY. Eliminate bonuses and golden parachutes.

    I think it’s time for a national SICK OUT. The Monday before election day, NO ONE SHOWS UP FOR WORK. And every monday until the new Congress is in session. Imagine the revenue losses during the holidays when people give up that $70 a day take home (unless they have sick leave ~grins~) while Macy’s and Toys R Us lose BILLLIONS A DAY because they refuse to pay living wages.

    Imagine the horror when big donors SCREAM for Congress to “DO SOMETHING!!!”

    Short of a full magazine distributed between the house, Senate and Supreme court, NOTHING will change until VOTERS unfuck themselves by VOTING OUT THE INCUMBENT for three election cycles.

  • Macdoodle

    Are you trying to link 2 years of Obamacare to an increase in life expectancy?Wow this is is stretch even for you guys.LOL

    • Steve Brains

      PPACA affected insurance population ins 2010, not 2012. The basic protections were IMMEDIATE. No canceling or raising rates on the sick, no pre existing conditions and your kids get insured to 26.

      MacDumbass? Your chronic delusions are really petty cries for help. GO GET SOME!! Get busted for something serious. I am SURE they would pay a LOT of attention to you in prison!!!

    • klynb

      We can definitely link two years of Obamacare to a decrease in infant mortality.

  • Diana Bizak

    Even if the roll out of the Affordable Care Act has increased people’s lives, it would not be showing up yet statistically. Average Life Expectancy is based on an assumption of how long someone born today will live, but the numbers come from actual longevity. If improved healthcare is improving health, the benefit of longer lifespan will not be noticed until those with improved health reach the end of the lifespan they would have experienced and don’t die, but live longer.

    • Andrew the Science guy

      This I would agree with. Changes in life expectancy should be measured across a generation – 25 years or so.

      • Steve Brains

        They may do that in some study or other. But I do know that from 46.3 M and 48.3F in 1900, (53.6 M and 56.0F in 1919, 60.0 M and 65.0F in 1940, 66.0 M and 73.0F in 1960, 70.0 M and 77.4F in 1980) to now…

        is a 58.7% increase.

        So, in 2128, men should live to 125.

        We’d best keep adjusting Social Security once a decade between now and then.

        THAT is the eternal shortsightedness of partisan politics. NEVER planning for the future and ALWAY neglecting current issues and problems until they are EPIDEMIC, Systemic and insurmountably impossible to reach a common sense compromise about them.

        The other issue is they NEVER replace what’s broken, they only patch and fix for now. A WHLE NEW TAX SCHEME…
        NEVER, I swear to the imaginary GODS that EVERY politician had a Mother who would ALWAYS let them get away with just pushing the peas around their plate.

    • Steve Brains

      nice logic. But if Obama care changed medical care habits in 2010 and SAVED people SINCE who would have died in 2011… it doesn’t fit. The PPACA would have INCREASED LONGEVITY NOW!!!

      • Diana Bizak

        Yes, Steve, in the instances you site the Average Life Expectancy would increase. I am saying the increase would be too tiny to register. Think of the few months that could have already been added on to anyone’s life span. Think of the many people in our country. Think of the number of people who have not had a change in their life span. Think of the number of people who may see an increase in their life span, but have not yet reached the old end of their life span.
        And then the change has to be related to the Affordable Care Act. Many people die of causes that health care can not change.
        Many people make changes not related to healthcare.
        Health care improvements will add months onto a life span somewhere down the road. With or without any healthcare at all, my odds of dying today or super tiny. Affordable Care Act or not my odds change only when I reach the age I would/might die, not today.

      • Steve Brains

        I can see your first point. Most deaths are of ATF origin. Marijuana kills almost NO ONE. The choice is clear to me.

        And the point about “not being at the end of the life spectrum”…is speculative BOTH ways.

        My odds change only when I makes systemic changes in My lifestyle. Less beer, cigarettes, french fries, KFC and pizza, more and better sex.

      • Diana Bizak

        I can’t figure out “ATF”.
        Your odds change when you make systematic changes in your lifestyle, but the change in odds only shows up statistically when you reach the end of the life span the old lifestyle would have had and then live longer.

      • Steve Brains

        Just like on TV, in the movies or the news:

        I am almost ashamed that I over estimated your level of cognitive understanding. ~smiles quite brittely~

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      • Bea

        better healthcare to me means that millions who could not afford to go to a doctor before the ACA died of things that may have been cured IF they could have seen a doctor alas extending their life.

  • Diana Bizak

    Correlation does not prove causation. We kill ourselves by how we eat. We have it too good. Too much food and no desperate need to work our butts off to earn or grow what we need. We have it very good here in the U.S.

    • Andrew the Science guy

      You seem to think that Canada doesn’t eat too much. That the UK isn’t also suffering from an obesity crisis? The reason these parallels are drawn is *because* American and these other first world nations have a very similar lifestyle. You do have it good in the US, but no better (in terms of food) than anywhere else.

      • Steve Brains

        If you trust Republicans, we LEAD THE WORLD. And in this case, it’s true. NOwhere is the obesity rate higher for children or adults.

      • Andrew the Science guy

        That and the number of murders and percentage of population incarcerated at any one time.

      • Steve Brains

        I think Obama should pardon ALL the nonviolent drug convicts in Federal custody who have done more than one year for pot, 3 for pharmaceuticals and 5 for cock, smack and meth. On the morning after the next State of the Union Address.

        He DOES have the right to pardon STATE inmates as well… but the shitstorm of lawsuits would only overwhelm and bankupt many Republican Political groups and RED states…
        I say GO FOR THAT TOO!.

      • Steve Brains

        AND the money wasted on defense which totals more than the next 17 nations this year? Certainly more than the next 12 biggest armies.

    • Steve Brains

      We kill ourselves with how we play too. Adult Sports injuries are 25% of medical costs and job production losses. then there is the ATF causation of harm. Alcohol, tobacco and firearms kills a collective of a Million people a year.

  • Diana Bizak

    Thanks for posting this article. I bet it is our eating habits and lack of sufficient exercise that is decreasing our life expectancy from what you would expect based on our health care levels. I should eat less chocolate and get more exercise. Oh the tragedies of having an easy life with an abundance of food.

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      • Steve Brains

        Walking My two mutts does.

  • Diana Bizak

    Lets think about this—Life Expectancy includes deaths by accidents and suicides as well as deaths by natural causes. Think about how many people actually die each month out of all who don’t die. Even removing all causes of death, i.e. no suicides or car accidents, ( which surely even the best healthcare could not achieve) would have little impact on Life Expectancy until the trend (no deaths at all) continued for a significant enough time span to affect the statistics. Hence, any effect we are seeing on Life Expectancy has no causation relation to the implementation of the Affordable Care Act. An increase in Life Expectancy has to be caused by something in place for awhile to make any difference at all.

    • Steve Brains

      That is an excellent factor that will seldom change for the good. Not in a Republican America. Not if the VET’s get DEIED benefits for the 4th straight time. Not if the EPA gets a 14th budget cut in 15 years. Not if energy companies are EXEMPT from both the Clean Air Act AND the Clean Water Act.

      So what you are saying is if we eliminate all possible statistics, only THEN will Obamacare have NO IMPACT on the statistics that do not exist.

      YOu ARE a fucking Republican!!!

      • Diana Bizak

        Obamacare most certainly can have an impact on the statistics. And it can do so with all the the other factors (suicide, car accidents, vet’s denied benefits, EPA’s low budget, energy companies exemption from the acts you mention) still in place. To have an impact register statistically, we just need more time.
        I’m sorry I am not explaining it well enough for you to understand. My only beef with this article is the claim that the rise in the statistic called Average Life Expectancy is attributed to the implementation of the Affordable Care Act. I am not saying that the Affordable Care Act has not improved people’s life span. I am saying that statistics need time to show up. Any rise in the statistics, at this point, would have to be a coincidence.
        I mentioned other causes of death (suicide, accidents) to add some perspective, not to say they interfere with statistics. Given that other types of death will probably not change, they do not interfere with the statistics. They just lower the impact of a benefit we might be seeing.
        And, yes, I do have sex with my husband, but I do not see how that impacts this topic or is any of your business.

      • Steve Brains

        I understand you VERY clearly. You have OCD and just CAN’T stop wringin the crap out of a moot point.

  • danielistical

    There are about 150 million registered voters in this
    country of over 300 million people, and TED KLULESS , got about 2 million
    signatures, to repeal Obamacare,,, the math says,that he got LESS than 3% of
    the registered voters to repeal it OR 1.5% of the entire country,,,SO tell me
    about this 50% -60% OR is it 90% of the American people do not want


    AND NOW Obama has
    gotten about 10 million to sign up for Obamacare DO THE MATH


    • Steve Brains

      The October #’s will come out just before the election and CHANGE the polls BLUER. Nunn and Grimes will take 2 REDS seats in the Senate meaning the reds have to win 9 of the 11 other contentious elections. No mean feat because the REDS would need to bat .822 and even Ted Williams didn’t get HALF that.

  • Jeremy Einbinder

    I wish Cliffton wouldn’t equate the ACA with universal healthcare. It’s not even close.

    • Steve Brains

      Amen. but it’s a start.

  • Kelly McGee

    One in eight women experience breast cancer. One in four women experience the loss of a pregnancy or infant under a year old. I am one in four, I am the face of baby loss.