Republicans Once Again Look Ridiculous After One of Their Biggest Lies Against Obamacare is Debunked

affordable-horror-storyRepublicans lie about a lot of things, but they’ve taken misinformation and deceit to a whole other level when it comes to the Affordable Care Act. Even when their lies are completely debunked, it doesn’t really matter. Either they ignore reality, or they simply make up new lies.

Take for instance a few months ago when the Obamacare enrollment closed and the Obama administration announced that around 8 million Americans had signed up through the various health care exchanges.

Of course, Republicans instantly dismissed this announcement as the administration simply making up numbers to cover up the “failures” of the Affordable Care Act. Though that talking point quickly turned into conservatives pushing their completely made up lie that while 8 million people might have actually signed up for coverage through the exchanges, hardly any of them actually paid for the coverage. Their point obviously being that even if 8 million Americans did sign up for Obamacare, they were worthless since they claimed many of them didn’t pay.

At the time, John Boehner perpetuated the idea that fewer people were actually insured. Which made absolutely no sense. While Rep. Darrel Issa (R-CA) said, “I think the important thing is that 20 percent to 33 percent are signing up and then not paying, which means that the 7 million figure was never 7 million or close to it.”

Well, once again, Republicans look like absolute fools after it was recently announced that 7.2 million of the 8 million people who signed up for Obamacare paid for their coverage. For the mathematically challenged, that means about 90 percent of those who signed up for Obamacare paid for it. So, even though not all of those who signed up for coverage ended up paying, the 7.2 million number still puts enrollment numbers above the administration’s original goal of 7 million sign ups.

Needless to say, Fox News (and pretty much everyone within the conservative media for that matter) didn’t have much to say about this announcement. Fox reported on it, but tried to spin it into a negative light by focusing on the people who didn’t pay. An absolutely laughable attempt to slander the positive news.

And I’m sure many conservatives who did hear about it simply dismissed these numbers as more lies. Because that’s pretty much all they have. They can’t really factually dispute the numbers, so they simply say they’re made up. Though it’s important to point out, they have absolutely zero evidence to back up their claim. Because the truth is the only reason why they think these numbers are a lie, is because they want these numbers to be made up.

But that’s the thing about reality, it’s real whether Republicans want to believe in it or not.

To be honest with you, I’m still waiting for the day when the Obamacare numbers become so overwhelmingly positive that Republicans actually start trying to take credit for the law. And as absurd as that might sound, it wouldn’t really surprise me.


Allen Clifton

Allen Clifton is a native Texan who now lives in the Austin area. He has a degree in Political Science from Sam Houston State University. Allen is a co-founder of Forward Progressives and creator of the popular Right Off A Cliff column and Facebook page. Be sure to follow Allen on Twitter and Facebook, and subscribe to his channel on YouTube as well.

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  • Nemisis

    I’m looking forward to what happens next.
    Insurance company’s scrambled to find ways to keep the profits from collecting premiums while finding new ways to deny claims.
    Part of the PPACCA is it put’s a minimum of 85% requirement directly paid to a patients healthcare or there would be a refund of the difference.

    I’m looking to see how that plays out.

    • Warner W. Johnston

      That has actually been the law for 1 or 2 years now, my former employer, I’m retired, choose to use the refund to lower premiums. As they self insure, they are allowed to do that, the ‘provider’ only handles the claims process.

      • Nemisis

        That’s fairly reasonable.

    • Stephen Barlow

      It has already been paying out. Refunds went out last fall from many companies.

  • Mrs_oatmeal

    Maybe we will finally get smart and go to a one payer system!

  • robingee

    Of course they will take credit. “Romney did it first!”

  • strayaway

    Wow, 90% are paying! If 10% of auto or Apple customers didn’t pay for their purchases, that would be a corporate disaster but this is government. Student loan defaults, for instance are 13.7% so 10% failure is relatively good. In 2008, candidate Obama promised to cut the cost of the average family’s annual health care insurance by $2,500 by the end of his first term if his plan was passed. So far, that promise hasn’t met it’s goal but if the (un)ACA did cut our annual health insurance policy costs by 90% by the end of his second term, that too would be acceptable. I’m all about “hope” today. Anyway, since some of those who didn’t pay already have their (un)ACA premiums subsidized based on their income and payments to some state governments, we are only talking about the difference between what the government already gives them and whatever part of the balance they didn’t pay. Also, some portion of the 8M include some of the 4 or 5 million people who were forced off their previous policies and then bought an (un)ACA policy.

    • Stephen Barlow

      Student loan defaults are solely from price gouging students after the REAGANO.IC PRIVATIZATION of student financing. I think 100% of student loan debtors should default. Until students get 0.25% Federal money just like banks do. FORCE THE HOUSE REDS to pass rate adjustments retroactive to day 1 of private student loans.

    • So, if eight million people went to Apple and said “yes, I’d like a new iPhone!”, and then when that phone went up for sale, only seven million of them actually bought one, that would be a “disaster”?

      (Okay, with Apple, if only seven million people bought any new iPhone model, it might be, but that isn’t the point.)

      Or if GM came out with a new model, and eight million people said they wanted one, then seven million people actually bought one, that would be a “corporate disaster”? Really?

      Remember, anyone that doesn’t pay the premium doesn’t get coverage. But since you’re a Republican, I rather doubt that will stop you from making this claim.

      • strayaway

        If stock holders were led to believe sales were 10% more then they were, company stocks would take a big hit although I was thinking more along the lines of people buying on credit and not making payments. Even claiming 8M when there were 720,000 fewer payees would similarly be a major overstatement in real life but not in government fantasy constructs where non working computer systems can cost $5B. Subtract the number of people kicked off their policies by the (un)ACA who had to get an (un)ACA policy and the percentage might double.

        Remember, Obama promised to reduce the cost of average annual family health insurance policies by $2,500 by the end of his first term but they have instead nearly doubled. But since you probably consider yourself a “progressive” so numbers don’t matter, I rather doubt that you would say the President lied.

      • Stephen Barlow

        Isn’t that exactly what many banks routinely do now?

      • Stephen Barlow

        Not according to actual facts.

      • Stephen Barlow

        Cite your garbage liar.

      • George Nestico

        BS!!!! your and Idiot spewing BS out your pie hole faster than a flash flood, You can’t see beyond your nose, what would your response be to the 1 billion dollars the Insurance companies Lobbyists padded he hands of congress with, do you think it was because they had Americans best interests in mind or do you suppose it was the 42 billion clear profit they made in 2011, 67% of all foreclosures come from medical bills, hmmmm thanks to deregulation, gee on Obama Cares you can no longer lose your home due to medical bills your just another Jethro spewing out BS stop watching Faux.

      • strayaway

        George, Get a hold. You’re spouting jibberish and defining yourself with name calling. I am not a fan of insurance companies not did I indicate that I was. The head architect of the (un)ACA was Liz Fowler the Vice President for Public Policy and External Affairs (i.e. informal lobbying) at WellPoint, the nation’s largest health insurance provider. Maybe putting a fox in the hen house was why Vermont discovered that it could not have an affordable single payer plan like those of Canadian provinces. Vermont found out that it had to include all the insurance companies, big-pharma, and lawyers found in the Wellpoint inspired (un)ACA if it wanted to have a single payer plan. Unfortunately for Vermont, that removed the affordability aspect of single payer. So it seems that you are the cheerleader for corporatism benefitting big insurance companies. Why haven’t progressives ever come together to form their own non-profit insurance company by the way?

      • Stephen Barlow

        Excellent examples.

    • Chomper Lomper Tawee

      What a lot load of rubbish.

  • Bea

    Since this has become such a partisan issue (as is the country) now — it would be interesting to know how many of the 8 million are Republicans!!!! 😉

    • Stephen Barlow

      WAIT! Until this years 10 million applicants meet HALF THE PROGRAM GOALS IN UNDER 18 months!!! RED GOVERNMENT STATES will be scrambling to Expand Medicaid ahead of 2016, claiming the rollout problems caused the DENIAL OF HEALTHCARE to their poor voters.
      Let the new lies begin…
      …in 7 days.

  • Stephen Barlow

    This is so sad. Elected representatives PUBLICLY ADVERTISING the delusional symptoms of active MENTAL BREAKDOWNS!

  • dboz555

    All I know is before Obamacare I was able to afford insurance at just under $500 a month and since Obamacare I no longer have insurance because they want almost $1200 a month just for me. Is there a coupon book I missed?

    • Stephen Barlow

      We saw fake claims like yours all oved Fox news. They were proved fraudulent within 24 hours 9/10 times. 2/10 refused to save hundreds of dollars monthly solely on stated racist grounds. Wonder how many of those liars went back on the EXCHANGE and bought in when the Fox che is ran out and the cameras were gone?

      • dboz555

        I dare you to pay for my insurance! I have none and pay out of pocket for my medications. You can think it is fake all you want but that is my story.

      • Jimmy L Aldrich

        Liar Liar.

      • Stephen Barlow

        What State, age, dependents, earning?

      • Dar

        Well if that is true, then you must make a shitload of money buddy. Right??

      • Weird. Even the most expensive plan on the exchange was under $400, where did you even find insurance that costs that much?

    • Jimmy L Aldrich

      Liar.

    • garfieldguy

      Well, all I know is before the ACA I was paying over $2500 a month for my basic insurance and my mom’s Medicare supplemental policy. (I’m self-employed.) Now I can get a basic policy for myself for $500 a month. Not as low as I’d like, but still $2000 less. What was the Republican plan? Oh yeah, Trust the Insurance Companies.

    • Chomper Lomper Tawee

      Bullshit!

    • Carol Ann Hunigan Booher

      If your premiums went up, speak with your insurance company, THEY raised them not ACA, ACA had no interest in raising premiums on the already insured.. The insurance companys have been raising rates steadily since the 1980s and will continue to do so until the government puts a stop to it.. There is not need for them to raise rates, they are losing no money, to ACA since their products are being sold thru ACA.. They just do not want to insure people who have been sick or hurt, because they love that 99 percent profit, they are making in the form of premiums and NOT paying claims.. Sure they pay a dr bill now and then happily, let someone get in the hospital on a long term stay watch how they stoop to any length to get out of paying. .It is dirty business. They do not care to pay a corporate executive 25 million a yr but to pay off an hundred thousand dollar claim they will go to any length from scaring the patient by threatening fraud to all kinds of things.. I know I worked for a big name insurance company.. If your premiums went up,it was strictly Your insurance company

  • Eg Kbbs

    Another piece of evidence. Here in MO the people voted to make it illegal for the state to cooperate in setting up a healthcare exchange. So the feds set up the exchange.

    This year, twice the number of insurance companies are anticipated to offer products on the MO (federal) healthcare exchange than last year.

  • 1.3 trillion for just 7 million people. It was 47 million so what happens to the 40 million? They get screwed by Obama.

    • Stephen Barlow

      They sign up THIS YEAR!

      • Read the CBO report jerk. This will cost us trillions while millions will lose their jobs and their health care.

      • Stephen Barlow

        Three things that have nothing to do with each other.

      • Hey queer. Stop following me.

      • Stephen Barlow

        Love how liberal you are with all those extra zeros. Did Fox ever mention the chapters on HOW healthcare inflation is and will remain HALVED saving the cost of Medicaid expansion?

        They never do which explains you vast ignorance and the depth of your stupidity.

        You are zero for 4 on Tue whole truth meter this week jumbo

      • Go f*ck yourself liberal. I don’t want any Obamashit. Neither do the majority of Americans.

      • Iain Morrison

        I’m pretty sure you are one of the most braindead pillocks (look it up) on the web.

      • Leon Panetta has a book out “Worthy fights” and it makes Obama look weak, pathetic and feckless. Panetta says that troops should have been left in Iraq and so did Obama’s generals. Obama took a win and turned it into a loss. Obama is the worst president our country has ever had even making Jimmy Carter look like Washington. Don’t like it lefties? Too bad. You’ll find out this November and again in 2016 when we “CRUSH” you and we take this country back from liberal Muslim terrorist loving fools like Obama and his Kool-aid drinking ship of fools . Jim I’m glad to have you on my side. I’m glad you have seen the damage that Obama has done to our country. The world is on fire while Obama goes out golfing and fund raising. 74% of all combat deaths in Afghanistan are on Obama’s watch. Putin and Russia are running wild. North Korea and Kim Jung Un threaten to nuke us. Iran continues to build their nuclear weapon and enrich uranium. We have had terror attacks in our country like Fort Hood which Obama and the liberal media calls workplace violence. The Boston marathon bombing is an example on just how easy the Muslim crazies can attack us. Want to see real racism look at the minorities who voted for a man for president just because he was black. Also count the white guilt liberals and 47% takers. I read the mans books. I read books about Obama. I knew a disaster was coming. Obama never admits he’s wrong abut anything and passes the blame and throws people under the bus. In his ‘Dreams from my father” book I was disgusted to hear that Obama ate a dog, mans best friend, studied the Koran in his supposed ‘non’ madrassa school, smoked pot and snorted cocaine. I can go on and on forever on the disaster that is Barack Hussein Obama Jr.

        Matthews is ignorant. Unemployment is down because a massive amount of people have dropped out of the jobs market. The lowest job participation rate since 1978s and the Jimmy Carters malaise days. People are also retiring and going back to schools since the can’t find employment in Obama’s horrible economy that’s going nowhere fast. Half the jobs created were temp work with low pay. The average worker is making less money now that in 2008.

        The bad news. It looks like ISIS will take another city near the Turkish border while everyone just watches and does nothing. Obama has spent 1.1 billion dollar firing 47 cruise missiles and 1,000 bombing runs that did absolutely nothing to stop ISIS.

        So Jon Stewart talked about death panels on yesterday’s program. Oh, it’s called your right to chose.

        Affleck looked stoned and on coke or speed with his red eyes, non stop jammering. The guy who was in Argo where Americans were taken hostage by the Iranians for 444 days in 1979 while the CIA, with help from Canada, smuggled six Americans out of Iraq.For the first time I agreed with Bill Maher. Who would have thought someone would be left of Bill Maher? A ignorant Hollyweird liberal. The only terrorists we see today are Muslims.

        You know Obama sucks when Jimmy Carter criticizes Obama.

      • Bigoted shit head.

      • Iain Morrison

        How am I a bigot? You are an ignoramus…I call it as I see it. And Argo was about Americans being rescued from Iran…not Iraq. You can’t even get that right! I hope you goose-stepping imbeciles don’t get into power. Dubya was by far the worst president of the past 50 years..,

      • If I could turn the page

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        But I couldn’t find a way

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        If I could turn the page

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        But I couldn’t find a way

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      • Look at UN resolution 1441 and the 14 other UN resolutions Saddam Hussein broke. He had his day in court

        unlike Col Khadiffi who was sodomized and murdered without a trial.

        Hussein stole oil for food money, shot at our planes in the no fly zone daily and tried to kill a former

        US president in Kuwait in 1993.

        ———-

        “One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction

        and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line.”

        –President Bill Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998

        “If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish

        the threat posed by Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction program.”

        –President Bill Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998

        “Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the

        leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the

        greatest security threat we face.”

        –Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998

        “He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983.”

        –Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998

        “[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to

        take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to

        respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq’s refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction

        programs.”

        Letter to President Clinton, signed by:

        — Democratic Senators Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others, Oct. 9, 1998

        “Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a

        threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process.”

        -Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998

        “Hussein has … chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his

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        — Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999

  • LoveArchy444

    Then again these are the same people who accuse Obama of being a socialist. Well, if Obama was a socialist, why has net he did things along the lines of bringing the economy under public ownership with all jobs operating under workers self-management? Why doesn’t he use economic sutplus to dramatically raise the standards of living for workers and their families? I thought socialism wasn’t he can understand characterized by social ownership of the means of production, something Obama clearly doesn’t advocate.
    I’m still waiting to see Obama execute something along the lines of Allende’s Project Cybersyn (1971-73).

  • Jeff Mathis

    Interestingly enough many of the people who have enrolled in the ACA and now have health insurance are people who vote Republican. The idiot goobers are going to get the shaft and many will die or go broke if the Republicans succeed in wrecking Obama Care. Republicans don’t give a rats butt about these people they just hate the black man in the White House and want to wreck this law. It’s nothing more than racism and partisan politics. I left the GOP after 30 years because they are now the young earth, anti science,
    vagina police and turned conservative into a synonym for ignoramus,