Scott Walker Just Bungled Women’s Rights So Bad, He Might Have Blown His 2016 Chances

scott-walker-sadWhen it comes to Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker, I just don’t get it. I don’t follow Wisconsin politics extremely closely, but nothing I’ve heard about what’s going on there has really been positive. Even Walker’s job approval numbers are fairly low for someone who just won re-election this past November.


Yet, for some reason, as a potential presidential candidate on many polls I’ve come across he’s been right up there with Jeb Bush as the overwhelming favorites to win the nomination.

Well, Walker’s recent comments on abortion rights could have just cost himself any shot he might have had at the presidency. While discussing his party’s ongoing efforts to restrict the control women have over their own body, he asserted that forcing women to have an ultrasound prior to having an abortion is “cool” because people who want the baby are always proud to show off their ultrasound pictures.

“Most people I talk to, whether they’re pro-life or not, I find people all the time who’ll get out their iPhone and show me a picture of their grandkids’ ultrasound and how excited they are, so that’s a lovely thing. I think about my sons are 19 and 20, you know we still have their first ultrasound picture. It’s just a cool thing out there.”

Wow. 

Let me go ahead and point out the obvious. There’s a huge difference between someone who wants to have a baby and someone who doesn’t. I doubt that many women in the middle of an unplanned and unwanted pregnancy are going around proudly showing off the ultrasound of a fetus they don’t want. Not only that, but this isn’t about what an ultrasound is – it’s about forcing women to have a procedure done to their bodies that they don’t want done. 

He also went on to admit that the reason why Republicans push for these laws is to try to guilt women into carrying the fetus to term.

I’m sure women who are anti-choice won’t really care too much about his comments, but I really think most women who come across his remarks will be completely disgusted by them. It’s not just that he came off looking like a total jackass comparing two completely different situations, but he also doesn’t seem to grasp the fact that this isn’t about the abortion itself, it’s about the government forcing women to have something done to their bodies that they don’t want done.


Hell, Republicans are throwing a fit over bakeries being forced to make gay wedding cakes, calling that “an attack on freedom,” yet these hypocrites have no problem telling women what they are required to have a doctor do to them before exercising their constitutionally protected rights.

It’s just ludicrous that these individuals feel that they have the right to tell women what they can or cannot do with their own bodies over four decades after the Supreme Court ruled that they have a right to decide for themselves – a right that’s protected by the Constitution. These sort of laws equate to nothing more than trying to shame a woman into keeping a fetus or bullying them into bending to the will of these big government Republicans. 



Allen Clifton

Allen Clifton is a native Texan who now lives in the Austin area. He has a degree in Political Science from Sam Houston State University. Allen is a co-founder of Forward Progressives and creator of the popular Right Off A Cliff column and Facebook page. Be sure to follow Allen on Twitter and Facebook, and subscribe to his channel on YouTube as well.

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  • wendy

    Wonder who he plans on paying for these ultrasounds, since he prob. wants to cut planned parenhood

    • Judy Rae Jackson

      The person who has to have the ultrasound usually has to pay because most insurance companies won’t pay for an unnecessary procedure. Keep in mind that what Walker is talking about is NOT the sonogram that involves a woman sitting or lying down while a technician passes a wand over her stomach. The sonogram that Walker is talking to involves a 10″ metal wand inserted into a woman’s uterus. NOT something most women want to experience.

      • BB-Mystic

        Yes. I wonder if he would be so gung-ho about this if a law was passed that required a man to have an ultrasound in his rectum before being prescribed Viagra.

      • wendy

        In a perfect world 😉 lol

      • noah vail

        it would be better should he experience it through his urethra

      • wendy

        O my goodness. Forcing that procedure as well as footing the bill is possibly what this a-hole is proposing? If story is true. Always take w/a grain of salt

      • angie497

        Of course it’s what he’s proposing. It’s modeled on virtually identical statutes in several other states.

      • noah vail

        what a waste of salt

  • DAV

    You forgot the mention that not only is it something that women don’t want done, it is something being done for no medical reason whatsoever. It is simply to humiliate the women. Government mandated rape that women have to pay for. What a wonderfully “christian” concept. I can’t understand why any woman supports those psychos.

    • Flat Banana

      So if the fetus and mother are healthy, what medical reason is there to abort the baby?

      • Jillz

        Nice try but wrong argument. This is not an argument about whether abortion should be legal or not (it is legal and women already won the Constitutional right to it, not that Republicans care much about that pesky little Constitution). This discussion is about Scott Walker’s ignorant comments and there is NO NEED for a woman to have an ultrasound if she is not planning on carrying the fetus to term.

      • Flat Banana

        Say what you will I asked a question in relation to the topic at hand.

      • Jillz

        Then I can probably answer your question and it’s quite simple:

        There isn’t always a MEDICAL reason why a woman would choose to abort a fetus.

      • Flat Banana

        So why do it (not you)? If you were adult enough to put yourself (not you) in that situation, then be ready for what comes afterwards.

      • Jillz

        That question I don’t think I can properly answer because it is not a choice I would make for myself. For ME, I can’t imagine any (non medical) reason for having an abortion.

        However, it is not my place to make that decision for another person – that’s the point of the debate.

      • Flat Banana

        I agree with you 100%, but there needs to be more awareness to this and people need to see consequences of their actions.

      • Jillz

        How about reducing unwanted pregnancy through increasing awareness and availability of contraception; and access to educational resources that make young women more aware of the potential consequences of unprotected/unsafe sex; and that would offer health services and other alternatives to abortion in the case of unwanted pregnancy?

        It’s part of what Planned Parenthood already does, but the anti-choicers want to abolish that too.

      • Flat Banana

        Because planned parenthood advocates abortions, this awareness needs to start from a young age at home.

      • Nancy B

        Citation for that “advocates abortions”, or it doesn’t happen.

      • Jillz

        Right, they “advocate” abortions *sighs* — NO ONE “ADVOCATES” FOR A WOMAN TO HAVE AN ABORTION”

        Do some research man, and learn about what PP actually does. It’s one of the best resources that is ACCESSIBLE to young girls and women and they do NOT “advocate” abortion (nor are they against it).

        But regardless of that, so you think it’s a good idea to abolish an organization for ONE of their services, despite the incredible amount of work they do with the MAJORITY of their services to prevent unwanted pregnancy.

        This is the problem with anti-choicers – they don’t want to talk about options for preventing pregnancy; they want to force women to have unwanted children; and then once the children are born, they want to wash their hands of them by slashing the services that help support all these unwanted children.

        Damn, my head is spinning again.

      • noah vail

        I’m sorry, but dealing with flat banana is impossible…his head is so far up the kock bros. ass he can’t see reality

      • BB-Mystic

        Which is a cop-out answer. Many parents, especially religious ones, won’t teach their children about contraception, because their religion demands abstinence before marriage. Other parents are too embarrassed. There may be any number of reasons why there isn’t such an “awareness” at home.

        You make it sound like abortions are the only thing Planned Parenthood offers. That is nonsense. They provide contraception, cancer screenings, and many other things women, especially poor women, simply cannot get elsewhere. Even IF PP only did abortions, they would still be offering a LEGAL service.

      • wendy

        Have you been to Planned Parenthood? Please let me know which one because they are there for teenagers who cannot go to their own famillies. Advocates abortions? I will report them if thats what they are doing. Need address, dates, names. If you’ve never been there, with all due respect, keep your ignorant remarks to yourself. Don’t mislead people with ur fantasies, please

      • Judy Rae Jackson

        TRUST me when I say that awareness is NOT beginning at home. IF it were, states like mine (Texas) who advocate abstinence only education would NOT have one of the highest teen pregnancy & teen STI rates in the USA. Parents are not teaching their kids about sex, schools are not allowed to teach kids about sex. As a result, kids today are WOEFULLY uneducated about sex, pregnancy & STI’s.

      • noah vail

        they don’t advocate for them but they are able to provide them safely, moron

      • noah vail

        are you aware of the consequences of back alley abortions and how many women were killed by them before roe v wade…where is YOUR responsibility to them if roe v wade is ever overturned, huh, “christian”?

      • Flat Banana

        Is that what you think I meant by my comment? You are reaching incredibly far.

      • Danielle

        so they’re consequences would be shaming into keeping a baby they can’t or don’t want, and forced medically unnecessary procedures?

      • Shelba

        You think women don’t agonize over these decisions?

        You think that it’s a casual decision? That women wake up one day, and say, “Oh, look! I just bought a new pair of jeans, and if I keep this pregnancy, they’ll be out of style before I can wear then again! Guess I’ll just abort!”

        How arrogant, to assume that women do not see the consequences of their actions, and to assume that women just blithely decide to terminate pregnancies.

      • Garibaldi

        Again, you are ignoring, among other things, cases of incest and rape. Certainly (maybe I’m assuming too much on your part?), blaming the victim for cases of rape and incest is not your point?

      • Kim Ferrari

        So being forced to give birth is a “punishment” for any woman having the audacity to have sex?

        You ARE the problem in this country.

      • Jillz

        While men have no forced accountability. Hell, they even encourage men to have sex – isn’t Viagara covered under the ACA? But of course, it’s a moral sin to have birth control covered.

      • wendy

        Well, let’s face the FACT that there are certainly double standards, because a mans sexuallity trumps all else!

      • wendy

        Because people make mistakes. If one wants to avoid pregnancy, birth control should be administered. Yet, even that can fail. Being a parent is the tallest order in the world. Some people should not be parents at all! Forcing parenthood on someone just seems crazy to me

      • angie497

        Jillz cannot possibly answer that question for anyone other than herself, and only in relation to any one specific pregnancy. Despite your yammering insistence to the contrary, there is no way for anyone to answer that question for anyone else, because the reasons belong to the individual.

        You’re being argumentative just for the sake of being argumentative. Here’s a thought. You don’t demand that people provide the rationale behind the medical decisions of others (and mind your own business), and in return we won’t demand that you provide a justification for continuing a pregnancy that we find acceptable.

      • Cemetery Girl

        Why have sex? We are biologically driven to have sexual desires. Many of us had grown up being told that sexual affection was something two people do once in love. Even conservative Christians consider sex a “gift” between a man and a wife. We are one of the few species that have sex for fun. Plus conception is not an automatic. To conceive semen must be released near ovulation. (Semen only survive so long, same with the egg.) Even when the timing is right there is still roughly a 25% chance of becoming pregnant. There is a reason that even in couples with no infertility it can take months to conceive. Having sex is not absolutely going to result in getting pregnant. In nearly every instance it is a possibility (although sometimes a freakishly unlikely one) that sex would result in pregnancy, we can never say that sex will absolutely with no doubt result in pregnancy.
        So knock off the whole “they did it, now they gotta pay” attitude. It is beyond ridiculous to treat a woman that has sex as some foul creature that deserves punishment. It is no longer the 1800s, we can stop with the act that a woman shamefully endures sex for the sake of her husband and her punishment for allowing such animalistic acts is to endure childbirth. We are past that. Woman admit to liking sex too. Woman that choose to have a baby are now proud to be pregnant (no longer hiding their vulgar condition).

      • wendy

        Well put

      • noah vail

        what she does or does not do is still none of your business

      • Danielle

        I’m assuming you’re a man

      • Garibaldi

        By ignoring, or acting as if, pro-choice advocates have not answered this question a million times, you are disingenuous to the extreme. Excluding, for the moment, the understanding that women have ultimate agency over their own bodies, pro-choice advocates point out instances wherein a woman, as a result of rape or incest, would be inclined to terminate her pregnancy. Your question is a red herring. Sadly, in my opinion, you’re already well aware of that.

      • Flat Banana

        There needs to be more thought put into terminating a fetus, people will make their own choices in life. You are taking my question to an extreme, all I asked was “so if the fetus and mother are healthy, what medical reason is there to abort the baby?”

      • Jillz

        Are you kidding? More thought by who? Politicians? You’re assuming that a woman thoughtlessly terminates a pregnancy! Do you really think women get this procedure without serious consideration beforehand?

        Your question IS an extreme – you asked something that has already been answered over and over. You know the answer, you just don’t like it. This thread is about Scott Walker’s ridiculous and ignorant comments about a VERY invasive procedure being forced on women in order for them to be able to be permitted to act under a Constitutionally protected right.

        Where is THEIR freedom?

      • Cemetery Girl

        What kind of thought? Thought such as what will the woman do if placed on restrictions that prevent her from working during pregnancy. Does her employer offer maternity leave and does she qualify? (Depending on the size of the business and variables with the employee leave is not federally required.) How will the woman support herself if she takes leave? (The U.S. does not require paid maternity leave, a rarity amoung first world countries.) What will be the impact to her health? Will she be able to support a child if she has one?
        Or did you just mean that people need to give more thought to a mass of cells that may not even make it to term anyway (estimated 1 in 4 pregnancies end in miscarriage) and no thought to the woman or the life the ball of cells faces after gestation, right?

      • Judy Rae Jackson

        Just as an FYI, women don’t just decide to have an abortion on a whim.

      • noah vail

        if a woman has an abortion, how in the hell does that affect your life in any way, shape or form?

      • Flat Banana

        It may not affect my life but it affects the life of the baby she is carrying.

      • wendy

        Maybe saves the baby the burden of being unwanted and possibly abused. No one mentions that unwanted babies have a higher chance of abuse. Hey, life at ANY cost?

      • Flat Banana

        You are really reaching

      • Cemetery Girl

        There are many things that don’t have an impact on your life which probably cause you less thought than if a mass of cells is carried to term. Babies in a NICU in life support. Programs for children with birth defects. Grandparents that should be preparing to retire but can’t because they’re raising grandchildren born to parents that had no interest in raising the child. Parents with a special needs child that will never be able to function independently, and they have endless worry of what will become of that child when the parents pass away. The mother that works several jobs to provide for her children, but misses their childhood in the process. These exist, and the concern over abortion and the desire to ban it will mean more of it will exist.

      • CE Lee

        There is no medical reason. Just as there is no medical reason for a TVU. However, there is a legal reason why a mom can choose abortion. And that’s all the reason she needs, whether we agree with her decision or not. And the government has no right to force unnecessary procedures for religious reasons.

      • BB-Mystic

        The “medical reason” is that the woman doesn’t want to be pregnant.

        Since it’s her body and her decision, that’s the end of the discussion.

      • Flat Banana

        Lol that sounds like a great reason, so terminate a child because the mother made a bad choice?

      • BB-Mystic

        Yes. If the mother cannot support another child or does not want to be pregnant, that is her legal right. Many women who have abortions are already mothers. If they know bringing another child into the family would cause a hardship, I’d say it would be their responsibility as well. In any case, their choices are none of your business.

      • wendy

        That is way more responsible than having a child one cannot support. Even if it was others business which it isn’t, until our tax $$ has to pay for them, right.
        BTW_that was agreeing with u. Lol

      • wendy

        Yes. Because once they are born unwanted, no one will give a shit about them. No child deserves a life like that. And forcing adoption upon someone is just as ludicris

      • CE Lee

        Exactly. Pro birth, not pro life. And then complain and cut welfare after forcing the mom to have the child. Hypocrisy at its best.

      • wendy

        Thinking its worse than hypocricy, more like criminal promoting poverty

      • John Isom

        You know there was a lot of folks born into much horrible poverty than is known today and became incredible contributors to society…this is a stupid ass argument….your not saving the world by killing innocent life..its a convenience there is no broad minded societal examination of why women get abortions by choice…its for CONVENIENCE and nothing else..

      • noah vail

        .its for CONVENIENCE and nothing else.. when a woman is pregnant by rape molestation or her life is in danger it’s hardly a matter of CONVENIENCE…you RWNJs really do hate women don’t you? and i might add that your ilk are not PRO-LIFE, you’re PRO-FETUS thats all…once it comes out it’s on it’s own as far as the right-to-lifers are concerned

      • John Isom

        Well sir I was talking about the choice not about the circumstances about the pregnancy any fool would understand I was talking about unplanned not rapes. I’m pro-choice with restrictions as the fetus is viable. But of course you assume to use RWNJ because of my opinion. Your one angry man.

      • John Isom

        Oh and health of mom at any time in the pregnancy abortion is an option. So RWNJ still??

      • Cemetery Girl

        Viable is (at the very earliest) 20 weeks, although medically speaking more like 25 weeks because at 20 weeks the chance of survival is very small yet if the preemie lives the odds of health problems are high. I do favor allowing abortion up to 24 weeks though because most late term abortions are due to a severe problem with the fetus. I know people that have had babies that died from from severe defects days, hours, or even minutes after birth. I have friends with children with Downs, Cerebral Palsy, severe Autism, and other severe special needs. It is hard, and not everyone can meet those needs. The frequent surgeries, the need for nurses because it is physically impossible for the parent to provide around the clock care to the point the child needs. The medical equipment required, the generator that is kept on hand to keep the equipment going in case of a power outage, and the need to secure a transfer by ambulance if the black out exceeds the ability of the generator. I have discussed with them their torn feeling over wanting to outlive the child so they don’t have to know when they die their child will be sent to some facility where they could be mistreated. There is so much worry, exhaustion, and isolation. They have friends, even family, that recommend just making their own lives easier and institutionalize the child, yet others will berate the parent for arranging to take even an hour for themselves. The parents of severe special needs children that I know love their children dearly, but will admit it is a hard road. It isn’t a road that everyone can face.

      • John Isom

        Hmmm…all babies your saying are going to be born into a welfare family? What does that have to do with a damn thing….

      • wendy

        I am saying that if one cannot afford to take care of a child, then why should they bring one into the world? It not fair to the child

      • CE Lee

        I’m simply pointing out that if you truly are pro life, you’d care about the baby that YOU, the pro lifer, wanted this mom to be forced have AFTER it was born too, not just forcing her to have the baby. Otherwise, you’re just Pro birth.

        My opinion is, stay out of other people’s business. How’s that?

      • John Isom

        Number 1 you don’t know I am pro life, you assume way too much. Personally life is sacred but I don’t expect all to feel the way I do. I support a woman’s right to choose up to a certain point in time as long as there are no health implications. But let’s not act like a woman deciding to have an abortion has anything to do saving society its about her convenience. That’s all I’m saying.

      • CE Lee

        Sorry, that was meant to be a generic “you”.

        I agree to an extent. However, unwanted children can be neglected and abused and can end up in the criminal system. That affects society in a very negative way. However, abortion is not a great answer. Society has to find a better way to deal with this other than telling the mom “too bad, so sad, you must have the baby, you’re on your own”. We are better than that as Americans. We support each other. (Notice I left the government out of this)

      • Carol Croken Sheehan

        It’s called contraception,but pro life nut jobs are against that too.

      • CE Lee

        Yes exactly. To be pro life and believe in abstinence as a policy is ridiculous as well. Just ask Alaska how well that worked for them not to mention STDs. Ignorance.

      • John Isom

        Glad your mother chose differently..

      • wendy

        Thank you. She wanted to be a mom. And why should the burden to raise unwanted children rest on taxpayers?

      • CE Lee

        It won’t. Pro lifers want no part of government assistance for unwanted children. They just want to tell the moms that they have to have the child. Personal responsibility they’ll say…until it happens to them or a family member.

      • BB-Mystic

        And if her (or my) mother had chosen differently, neither one of us would exist, nobody would know or care, we wouldn’t be having this conversation, and the universe would go on as usual.
        That’s a bullshit objection.

      • noah vail

        no, she can put it up for adoption so it will have a good home like the 10s of thousands of the ones already in orphanages waiting for some “good christian pro-lifer” to care for them…still no takers from the right? hmmm? what a surprise

      • John Isom

        Really…take a look at the statistics on adoption. You will find many “christian-pro-lifers” are happy to adopt unwanted babies. It assumes that all babies aborted are being born to welfare families…what a load of dung..

      • wendy

        So force a woman to go thru 9 months of pregnancy and give the baby away. For some people, this is the best of choices and works for many.
        The operative word is choice

      • BB-Mystic

        Which does not matter in the least if the woman does not want to be pregnant.
        Adoption isn’t for everybody.

      • CE Lee

        Why is that an assumption?

        And in my extremely limited experience with adoption in America, the amount of red tape and bureaucracy are unreal. Everyone I know except one, who adopted a child found it easier and quicker to adopt from a foreign country. They all wanted and tried to adopt domestically.

        Abortion should not be the answer, but we need to fix the entire process of dealing with unwanted kids and not just declare from our tower that women shouldn’t abort and walk away. It’s not that simple.

      • DAV

        Links to those statistics please. I am very interested to find out where your facts came from.

      • noah vail

        and there are a lot more who arent so”happy to adopt unwanted babies”…how many “christians” are there in this country? how many “unwanted babies” are in orphanages or foster care? whats the ratio? Hmmmmm?

      • John Isom

        So do you require the same as non-Christians? You got a hair up your butt for me and it’s quite amusing. So if your pro-choice your not as morally responsible for orphan children? Hmmm really?

      • noah vail

        i’m still trying to understand how if a woman excercises her legal option to have an abortion it becomes anyones business but her own…your morality may not be hers…it’s gods job to judge, not ours

      • noah vail

        i didn’t say that and i don’t claim some morally superior high ground like those self identified “christians”…and a woman’s desire to have an abortion is none of my business or any one elses unless they are either paying for it or are wishing to adopt the baby…most of you “pro-lifers” are only pro fetus…lots more moral hypocrisy on other issues as well

      • Cemetery Girl

        i really hate the “there are so many families that would love to adopt” argument. There are people that do want to adopt very badly, adopt healthy newborns. All the while we have plenty of children in foster care that would love to be adopted. We continue to have children age out of the system never getting a family that is truly theirs. So I really do not want to hear that so many people would do anything for a child when we have so many children that are instead shuffled from foster home to foster home.

      • Carol Croken Sheehan

        I am always amazed at the amount of adopted children these pro life nut jobs have…oh wait, noooo.

      • CE Lee

        Or get picked up by a foster home that locks kids up in cages.

      • Carol Croken Sheehan

        If she was raped was that a bad choice?

      • DAV

        You don’t have the right to make that decision except in your own pregnancy. If you aren’t pregnant, you have no opinion as to whether it is a “great reason” or not.

      • wendy

        There is no medical reason. It is a woman’s decision to be a mom or not.

      • wendy

        Hence, no reason for a medical test. And thinking the tinest % of women don’t take this decision as a life changing experience and avoid the same mistake

      • Shadow Diver

        Re-read your post. You are even more ignorant than I thought. Fetus does not equal baby, but nice try.

      • Flat Banana

        How does it not? Because you can’t physically touch it?

      • Danielle

        how about, because it’s not a viable life without being carried to a minimum term?

    • Nancy B

      Back in the stone ages, when I was pregnant, insurance would not even pay for an ultrasound, unless there were indications that the pregnancy was not going well, because it was considered not medically necessary. And you never got a picture. I do believe it’s a necessary part of prenatal care, as it is used to determine, early on, the health of the fetus and its gestational environment. But whatever happened the the hue and cry about the government coming between the patient/doctor relationship? Hypocricy at its finest.

      • Flat Banana

        Your healthcare was lost once ACA was implemented.

      • MarcoZandrini

        Fox much?

      • Flat Banana

        Every single one of you on here say the same thing over and over and over again. Do you get all your information from MSNBC/CNN?

      • Jillz

        The ACA is not responsible for taking AWAY healthcare – Republicans and their buddies in big business are/were the ones doing that.

      • Flat Banana

        This is something you and I just discussed, being forced to do something or face a penalty.

      • Jillz

        Um, no, we weren’t talking about that ??? What are you referring to?

      • wendy

        Because when our actions affect others (WE pay for uninsured with our taxes), laws have the right to protect society. We do not want to pay for uninsured ER visits. What happened to personal responsibility? Get health care! Car insurance is mandatory, and homeowners insurance is too, to protect others. So why the belly aching about mandatory heath insurance. Someone please explain. Because its new?
        Life changes

      • John Isom

        Oh reallly….so if my insurance didn’t meet the ACA guidelines my insurance remained?? Oh no it was cancelled DOH, was the intent was for me to not lose my insurance even though it fit my needs, plus I would save $2500 a year what year???, what other lies was given to us about this bill that no one read…people might as well be without insurance because they spend $1300 a month have a ridiculous deductible to meet, so you yeah Obama didn’t “build that”

      • Jillz

        I see. And of course, the insurance companies have no culpability in that, right?

      • MarcoZandrini

        Glad you asked. No, I read publications such as The Economist, Foreign Afairs, Foreign Policy. I read various websites that address economic and social issues. I watch MSNBC for entertainment, and Fox for laughs (at its BS).

      • Flat Banana

        Then why make assumptions?

      • MarcoZandrini

        An assumption? No, I read you comments and knew that your “field of vision” is limited to Fox. No, there was no “assumption” on my part.

      • wendy

        Also from real life maybe

      • wendy

        And Nancy B above just gave u a specific example. Please open your mind and read and get your head out of your programmed mindset. Facts, not fantasy or beliefs of what should b

      • noah vail

        no…we get our lies from FUX (news?)..

      • Flat Banana

        You must get all of your information from this blog.

      • John Isom

        The quotes twisted to indicate Walker said that women being forced to undergo transvaginal ultra sounds was a “cool thing” oh no, its the showing off of the pictures of the ultrasound is a COOL thing….sooo your side does even worse….

      • noah vail

        but the implication was that women considering their choice would change their mind once they see the TVU…oh, how cute!!!!! Walker is just a POS that should be horse whipped each time he opens his mouth

      • John Isom

        Hmmm you sound more violent than those crazy tea partiers and Christians. Maybe you should fear yourself. Dumbass.

      • Cemetery Girl

        I think the idea that showing off the ultrasound pictures is a “cool thing” is presumptuous. Expecting parents like to do that in a pregnancy they intend to keep and when the fetus (or embryo, ect.) is HEALTHY. A woman having an abortion wouldn’t be showing of the ultrasound she was forced to endure. Even people that intended to continue the pregnancy don’t go showing off ultrasounds that show a problem that is endangering the pregnancy. I have, packed away in a box, an ultrasound from a miscarriage. I assure you, I didn’t pull them out and say “look, see that round thing there? That’s what could have been our next child just stopped developing.” (I didn’t get the other ultrasounds. They didn’t offer them, but the first one there was still the thought that perhaps the gestation had been severely miscalculated.) Ultrasounds are “cool” when the pregnancy is intended to be brought to term and things are going well. This forced ultrasound for an abortion is strictly to try to convince mothers not to have the abortion.

      • John Isom

        Can’t deny that a large group of folks are paying more for those subsidized. In denial much?

      • Kim Ferrari

        The ACA has nothing to do with it. Abortion, and any of the procedures that go along with it, have usually been considered “elective”, so no insurance covers them. Therefore, the cost, associated procedures, etc. are not subject to ACA regulations. TVU has also been forced in many states long before Obama ran for office. You’ll have to find something different to cry about. Oh! I know! How about this: Obama caused the floods in Texas, so he could get his FEMA concentration camps in place for Operation Jade Helm to persecute all the “Good, Gun-Totin’, Bible-B’leivin’, Wife-Owning, Home-Skoolin’, Sister-Diddlin’ Christians”. That’s on a different comment thread.

      • Flat Banana

        You believe too much of what you read on this blog.

      • wendy

        And somehow you believe our POTUS is to blame for anything that goes wrong. What did u read to comment that the above statement was due to the ACA. Specifically, not the propaganda please

      • Kim Ferrari

        WTF are you even talking about? Knowing that the ACA isn’t an insurance policy did not come from “this blog”, nor do my knowing about TVU.

      • Shadow Diver

        You dou cheb ags are all the same. A lot of whining. No facts. Certainly no answer.

      • Flat Banana

        I am whining? Re-read your comment.

      • Nancy B

        Well, I guess this loosely ties in with government telling me what I can and cannot do with my body. Wait, no it doesn’t. I still get the same health care treatment, with the same providers. The only thing that was lost for me with the ACA was the joy of seeing extra money draining out of my bank account in health care costs before it was implemented, because I was being charged extra for a “pre-existing” condition that wasn’t.

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        Glad its worked for you….a lot of people got screwed..

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      • noah vail

        hypocrisy as an art form

    • walkingtall

      You and your kind are crazy. How anyone can equate an ultrasound to rape is beyond all rationality. Must be the most recent liberal meme put out there in their most desperate attempt to trash a good GOP candidate. I’m not surprised, but you will be because a majority of Americans do not agree with abortion on demand. A baby is created by two people, not one……both man and woman should have a say in what happens to a pregnancy. Take responsibility for yourselves and you won’t have to worry about a baby that is “unwanted”.

      • DAV

        Do you actually understand what a “Vaginal ultrasound” involves? It involves putting a large probe inside a women’s uterus. The definition of “Rape” is any physical penetration against the will of the woman. If you think sticking a large “dildo” into her privates for no medical reason simply to humiliate her into not having a perfectly legal medical procedure doesn’t meet that criteria, you need to get some serious counseling before you attack some woman. You may be stupid enough to believe that most Americans don’t agree with “abortion on demand” but polls say something different. A woman has the right to chose what happens to her body. You do not, I do not, your pastor does not. Unless it is your body you have no right to control anyone’s body. As for both a man and a woman having a say in what happens to a pregnancy – when the man carries the baby he should get to decide if he wants to carry it to term, Until then, it isn’t his choice. She has 9 months of physical and emotional suffering and you don’t have the right to decide that she should be “punished” for having sex by being forced to bear an unwanted child. As for “no unwanted child” being a result of “taking responsibility” I suggest that you look up “birth control failure rates” on Google. Apparently you are unaware that it isn’t 100% effective. Especially with RWNJs doing everything possible to limit access. How are they supposed to be responsible when their employer gets to determine if they can use birth control?

        And just to make it clear, in the present circumstances, there is no such thing as a “good GOP candidate”.

      • walkingtall

        Wow…..you really are crazy. Someone warped your mind so badly that no one, except another lunatic, would agree with you. Please seek psychiatric help. By the way, natural family planning is 100% effective if you don’t act impulsively and irresponsibly…..anyone with any common sense at all knows this. Just because you and other idiots choose to kill infants because you don’t want to take responsibility for your behavior doesn’t mean you’re not guilty of murder. You’re just another Gosnell who insists that it’s perfectly ok to go around breaking an infant’s neck while they are alive and breathing. You are nothing but animals and barbaric to the bone.

      • DAV

        I started to write a long, scathing reply to your stupidity, but then I realized that you are so far down the Teabilly rat hole that you are incapable of understanding that anyone might believe that women have the right to control their own bodies. It isn’t worth arguing with you because you are too stupid to understand the concepts and too warped to accept anything but what Fox “News” feeds you. I will say that “natural family planning” is a joke and is certainly not 100% effective. Clearly you believe that humans should not be allowed to enjoy sex, and for that I feel very sorry for you. You clearly need therapy for your hostile frigidity.

      • walkingtall

        Like I said……you are crazy.

  • Shadow Diver

    Face it the GOP is a culture of rape. Check out the defense of the Duggars. People like S. King and T. Lott would force rape victims to bear the children of their rapists (and child visitation). McConnell and Walker with forced ultra sounds……rape with an appliance. When you look at the way right wing Muslims treat their women and what Tea Party GOP wants…….there is little difference.

    • CE Lee

      Thank you.

  • Jim Valley

    Today’s conservatives are simply disgusting. End of story.

  • OMGface

    Perversely, this makes me sad. Why? Cause I am liking the deluge of Stone Age clowns deluded enough to believe they are qualified for the nomination, forget to hold the actual office. Actually, it’s more a tsunami of detritus than a deluge.

  • Danielle

    Where else, besides abortion and contraception, do people try to force or restrict medical choices that don’t have a medical reason? What about HIPAA? How should anyone but the woman and the doctor know what is happening, much less have a say in the matter.

  • GenerallyConfused

    pro-pregnancy. not pro-life.

  • AmericanPaPISSED

    Wow. He’s almost as stupid as I am.