Sean Hannity Voices Bizarre and Awful Defense of Child Abuse (Audio)

hannity-2It’s not at all surprising to see most folks over at Fox News coming to Adrian Peterson’s defense when it comes to his brutal whipping of his 4-year-old son. A beating for which he’s been indicted by a grand jury on charges of child abuse.

But leave it to Sean Hannity to take defending child abuse to a whole other level by insinuating if Adrian Peterson is in fact convicted of savagely beating his 4-year-old son, that this will somehow impede parents from being able to apparently beat the “gay” out of their children.

Hannity said, “This is my problem with liberals. Because this is where my fear goes with all of this. You guys want to tell parents what they can or cannot do. Fox example, is it going to become illegal if a parent teaches the politically correct view that being gay is not normal?”

So, because “liberals” (or pretty much anyone who opposes the brutal beating of a 4-year-old child with a wooden stick to the point that they scar and bleed) support charges bring brought upon Adrian Peterson for child abuse, this will hamper the ability for parents to teach their children about human sexuality?

I guess Hannity would be just fine with a parent beating a defenseless child with a wooden stick until they bled to “teach them a lesson that being gay is wrong.” Because that’s basically what he’s “concerned” about. That if a parent were to do that, they would then be brought up on charges for child abuse.

Because couldn’t a parent argue that they should be allowed to do just that? You know, to “show them that kind of behavior isn’t right.”

And throughout this debate about disciplining children that’s risen since the Peterson story broke, I’ve yet to have a single person give me one logical scenario where whipping a 4-year-old child to the point that they bleed and have open wounds all over their body would be deemed appropriate. Honestly, what the hell could a child that young possibly do to warrant such punishment? Hell, what could any child (or human being) do to deserve that?

Honestly, think about it. If we saw one adult whipping another adult with a wooden stick, wouldn’t we be appalled? So why do some find people this behavior appropriate to do to small children? Because they were abused as children? Yeah, that’s a real good excuse. Because you were abused, that makes it okay for others to abuse children as well.

Little girls were also married off to much older men around the age of 13 many years ago. Should we reenact those traditions as well? Oh, no, we put an end to that years ago. How about

Damn “liberals.”

But that’s the kind of mindset many of these people defending Peterson’s actions seem to have.

And for Hannity to essentially “worry” that Peterson being convicted of child abuse might somehow prevent parents from “correcting gay behavior” (which I can only assume means “beat the gay out of them”) is appalling even for that scumbag.

Listen to the audio below via Media Matters and Fox News:


Allen Clifton

Allen Clifton is a native Texan who now lives in the Austin area. He has a degree in Political Science from Sam Houston State University. Allen is a co-founder of Forward Progressives and creator of the popular Right Off A Cliff column and Facebook page. Be sure to follow Allen on Twitter and Facebook, and subscribe to his channel on YouTube as well.

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  • Mrs_oatmeal

    Is this what he would do to his children? If you do this to a dog you would be arrested for animal abuse. And, yea, it’s a great day when someone thinks they can beat the gay out of anyone. Is that what happened to him?

    • Stephen Barlow

      THANK you. And you would DESERVE to get BIT the next time you feed him!!!

      Not all gay people DISLIKE a good beating… LMAO! ~snickers~

  • robingee

    “the politically correct view that being gay is not normal”

    Politically correct?

    • Kurt Luttrell

      Conservative politically correct. They want small, unobtrusive government, but one big enough to ban what they don’t like. They flip flop between the bible and constitution, depending on which serves their purpose best at the moment.

      • Stephen Barlow

        Thus they TRUELY believe in neither.

      • robingee

        I thought Politically Correct was a dirty term used by filthy Liberals who want everyone to be super-sensitive. The fact that he uses it here (and incorrectly) shows he doesn’t even know what he means.

      • Kurt Luttrell

        I thought the term liberal was a conservative dirty word.

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    • Stephen Barlow

      In HIS mind it is.

    • Cemetery Girl

      I was wondering this too. Did I miss some nuance of how he said it? Was whining I’ve seen that it is politically correct to view homosexuality as a normal aspect of sexuality and not a warped choice for nothing if the politically correct view is that gay is normal?

  • pinballsdoll

    this guy needs to shut the hell up..period

  • Ivan Renko

    Sean Hannity most definitely did not say or insinuate that the gay should be beaten out of anyone. Nor did he defend child abuse. Both allegations are being assumed- incorrectly, falsely, and with ill intent.

    • Richard Mcgee

      Wow you really need to learn how to read between the lines
      But then again that’s a fox viewers kryptonite

      • Ivan Renko

        I can read between the lines. What I don’t do is make specific allegations based on my assumptions, even with people I don’t like, which is what is being done here. That’s dishonest. And it’s spiteful. It’s not based in fact, something that people here categorically state is something germane to forward progressives and liberals as opposed to conservatives.

      • Rick A

        Ivan. What is he saying, in your opinion.

      • Ivan Renko

        It doesn’t matter what I think he’s saying, but in no way do I think he’s saying what the blog author is accusing him of saying.

        ‘Reading between the lines’, based on your assumption, and then putting words in someone’s mouth maliciously from those assumptions, is dishonest. No matter how you qualify it, no matter how you preface it with weaselly clauses, no matter how you say that is the only conclusion you could draw. No matter what, it’s dishonest. And indefensible.

      • Stephen Barlow

        Actually it DOES matter what you think. you are condemning others for reading what Hannity actually said and expressing what Hannity COMMUNICATED TO THEM DIRECTLY through his words.

        If you havea different interpretation to DEFINE yor justification for your condemnation, then you better lay it on us all or admit you are just arguing read your own writing. (to hear yourself talk)

      • Ivan Renko

        I told you that I do not think he meant, ‘reading between the lines’ what the blog author baselessly accuses him of having said. It’s a cheap and dishonest tactic that Media Natters dies to disseminate to various liberal blogs that depend on Fox News for this sort of content as daily red meat for web hits. The blogs post it with a salacious headline, and then make up their own thoughts to go along with it.

        Has Sean Hannity ever advocated for ‘beating the gay’ out if children? Has he ever advocated for beating children at all? Did this blog author provide background to anything Hannity said even remotely advocating child abuse to support his claim that he arrived at through some rudimentary process of elimination?

      • Ivan Renko

        Also too, Stephen. Googling this story yields no surprises of all the usual suspects picking up and running with this story from the Fox-obsessed intern fellows at MMfA. Not one of came to the same conclusion that Allen Clifton claimed was the only conclusion he could make as to what Hannity was saying. Not Raw Story. Not Salon. Not mediaite. Not ThinkProgress, which does neither. Not even On Top Magazine. Or Blue Virginia. Or HuffPo. Nobody, Stephen. Just Allen. The only one he could think of that Hannity must’ve meant.

      • Stephen Barlow

        MMfA???

        Hey, I just read EXACTLY what Hannity said. I saw the ingenuousness in it and the intentional hate speech, no matter how subtle.

        Which I think Allen saw as well.

        One lone vote against the Funding bill giving GWB undefined authority to attack any anonymous suspected enemy or their acquaintances and Carte Blanche with NO time limit to accomplish the undefined tasks of warring upon an innocent sovereign Nation (Iraq) … and REP. BARBARA LEE is the only one who was RIGHT ALL ALONG!

        The point, It matters NOTY who FAILED to see what I just explained, Hannity is a bigot by trade and a racist @ heart. He has zero integrity. He STILL lives in NYC.

      • PRIME79

        Correction, ThinkProgrerss did cover this and they took the same position as Allen Clifton.

      • Ivan Renko

        Link please. Or copy and paste the quote. I only see a post by Zack Ford, and he makes no accusation whatsoever that Hannity was advocating for parents beating the gay out of their children.

      • Stephen Barlow

        I am telling you he INTENTIONALLY squirreled his sentences to SPECIFICALLY INCLUDE GAY BASHING and TO JUSTIFY using WEAPONS to attack one’s own gay children.

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      • Dee

        Ivan……yada yada yada a la FUX. Period. Need I say more. It is people like you who give any credence to FUX.

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        Need I say more.

        You haven’t said anything so far. If that is a question, then I’d have to suggest you’d be better off staying quiet and thought the fool as opposed to saying more and removing all doubt. Your call, though.

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        Yawn.

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      • Stephen Barlow

        I do see your point. Please… Go on. ~smirks like Obama!~ Explain exactly what Hannity meant by:

        “… is it going to become illegal if a parent teaches the politically correct view that being gay is not normal?”

        PLEEEEASE!! Go on!

      • Ivan Renko

        It means what it says it means. What it doesn’t mean is that he wants parents to beat the gay out of their children. That’s just fantasy to claim he meant that.

      • Stephen Barlow

        Yeah RIGHT!!! Then WHY mention the GAY part AT ALL???? ANy normal person would have said, “When is it going to become illegal for a parent to use corporal punishment to discipline their own child?”

        but NO! Hannity MAKES it all about “gay is wrong” by saying:

        “is it going to become illegal if a parent teaches the politically correct view that being gay is not normal?”

        NOt only is this a doubly false statement…

        A) ‘being gay is not normal’
        B) ‘If a parent teaches the politically correct view…”

        1) Being GAY in NORMAL for GAY people.
        2) It is politically INcorrect to attack gay people as ABNORMAL.

        SO: convoluted phrasing proves he made a point of including homosexuality as THE MAIN ISSUE parents would BEAT their CHILDREN with STICKS for
        AND
        he makes another point of highlighting “Gay is not normal” as ‘politically correct’.

        I understand your bigoted homophobic ignorance, but ultra bad English only occurs if one is undereducated or purposely distorting the English language to make a SPECIFIC point.

        READ Scalia’s rambling and roundabout Decision on Heller vs DC. Ultra convoluted phrasing to AVOID being trapped by the actual LANGUAGE of the 2nd Amendment. He KNEW he was dead wrong when he wrote it. Which is PRECISELY WHY he couldn’t write it in straight English, with proper grammer and composition.

        Compare it to his other Decisions and you will see how far from his natural writing style he runs because he was trying to justify an explanation of WHY he violated the Constitution and his own principles to accomplish a political agenda.

        Which BTW violates the special oath of office a SCOTUS Justice takes which precludes him from making a decision based on political affiliations.

        When you unpretzel Hannity’s double speak in triplicate… He’s not only Gay bashing, but CONDONING the use on WEAPONS on children who are gay.

      • OY humid

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        Oy

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      • OY humid

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        Oy

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        Oy

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      • Ivan Renko

        Dude, you argue like a fifth grader. You bring no facts to the table. People stop responding to you because you’re an obnoxious twit who becomes boring very quickly.

        It’s apparent that even your progressive cohorts here are bored with you.

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      • Stephen Barlow

        Not to a GAY person ya turdbrained urinehead.

      • OY humid

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        Oy

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      • Ivan Renko

        Your linguistics classes include mind-reading, there, Stephen?

        This isn’t a conclusion you arrived at on your own, it’s one you chose to defend only after I took issue with it as being a falsely-interpreted fabrication by the blog author. He made it up. You can write about it and cite a hundred other examples of inconsequential mumbo-jumbo, but it won’t change the fact that Allen Clifton is the only blogger making that unfounded claim. The reason they’re not is because Hannity didn’t say it.

        You’re only arguing out of vanity now.

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        =====================================
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      • OY humid

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        Oy

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        You few individuals still flogging it are kinda sticking out there. No other liberal blogs are going anywhere near the charge you’re making, and even the guys like you who don’t normally care much about looking silly aren’t going at it with your usual gusto for feigning outrage.

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        can U edify us as2 EXACTLY what IT MEANS? break it down; don’t just recite–
        spounds 2 me that regressive white trash overweight HANNITY views being gay as not being normal; in the political correct world he pollutes( lives in)
        ************************************************************
        pray tell; O “immune (from facts) one”,,,,,,,,,,,,,, what exactly does his statement mean??
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      • OY humid

        English please. Not Ebonics old man.

        Oy

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      • Ivan Renko

        It means exactly what he said, shemale. Read it. Then close you eyes for a couple minutes and tell yourself that Sean Hannity is not responsible for your misery. Repeat it ten times. Then listen to the audio. And try not to fall back to your comfort zone of making baseless assumptions.

        Let me know what you come up with.

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      • Richard Mcgee

        Giankeys
        You might as well leave this one alone remember you can’t fix stupid

      • OY humid

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        Oy

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      • Sandy Greer

        I don’t think so.

        Ivan doesn’t strike me as the type in need of sockpuppets. He does well enough on his own.

        Too, OY’s first comment was a year ago. OY is a troll who doesn’t like you. Nothing but insults. Ignore him, if you can.

        Once I see somebody offers insults, and little else – I generally don’t read them unless they Reply to me. And sometimes, not even then.

      • Ivan Renko

        I keep my comments private because I have an obsessed stalker who follows me from blog to blog. Which, let’s be honest here, is what giankeys wanted to do.

      • Sandy Greer

        I know others keep ‘private’ – for the same reason. I try not to get in the way of personal animosities – especially those carried from one place to another.

        But I know you don’t need sockpuppets. You seem like a stand-up guy. More than capable of presenting your own arguments.

        My OP said the same as yours – Clifton was wrong to assume. But you’re the one they took issue with. That’s personal, and not right – More to do with the personalities involved – than with the right/wrong of it.

        Anyway, my respects – for how you comport yourself, in general. You be sure to have a good day.

      • Ivan Renko

        Thanks Sandy. You too. Nothing said on here offends me. It’s just people venting and I know full well they do it not to me, personally, but to a composite, or a caricature, rather, of what they believe to be a typical conservative.

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      • Ivan Renko

        Not sure the exact post, but somewhere in the last day or so you crossed over from mildly amusing to being an alarmingly pathetic attention-seeker.

        Or maybe I just didn’t detect it before.

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        ================================
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        —————————————————————-
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      • Sandy Greer

        Then you’re a better person than me. I do find the ‘venting’ offensive. Not many conservatives brave our midst. Makes the few who do all the more valuable to me.

        I already know what I think. If I’m to learn anything at all – I have to know what my Opponents think.

        So thanks for being here, Ivan Renko. Don’t let ’em run you off – or distract you from your focus. You’re a singular Island of Reason – and I think I’m going to like you. 😉

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        OY is my new hero– a typical crybaby who I enjoy trashing

      • OY humid

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        Oy

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        Oy

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        mustve ejaculated straight from my ” mental problems”
        ====================================
        now,,,,,, about your mommys home: land locked shitbag state I presume? cold in winter? lotsa nice churches?? beer and pizza on a Friday night?
        POOR OY-VAN

      • giankeys loves shemale porn

        THERE ^^^^is where IVAN/OY-VAN said living in my moms home,,,,,,,,,,
        U lose again OY-VAN ( IVAN)

      • Sandy Greer

        Yes, I can plainly see – You enjoy the convo. You and OY both – enjoy ‘trashing’ each other. Leaves me wondering:

        If you didn’t create OY yourself – or OY, you.

        Because it seems to me – You’re the only ones who do enjoy the convo. It serves no other purpose. Other than as a distraction.

      • giankeys loves shemale porn

        you of all people should know better than that

      • Sandy Greer

        Well, but – I don’t know.

        I went to Ted Cruz. I don’t have time to read all the comments here (this thread – yours and OY’s – I gave that up after the first flurry) Not likely I’m going to search through 160+ comments on Ted Cruz.

        I take your word he stopped talking to you when you accused him. But so do I – stop talking to people who accuse me of things can’t be proven, either way. So – proof of nothing.

        We’ve got history, you and I. You’ve defended me; I’ve defended you. I hope you know I like you. I saw the other day you did The Right Thing – somebody accused another unjustly; you said they owed an apology. I didn’t post the thread – but I admired you did The Right Thing.

        But I can’t support you in baseless accusations of sockpuppetry that cannot be proven.

        Whatever is wrong between you and Ivan – not my business; I don’t involve myself in personal animosities – unless I see somebody accused unjustly.

        Just another thing we have in common – you and I. 😉

      • giankeys loves shemale porn

        sounds pretty good; im appreciative- I just felt I got a bit ” tossed under a bus” by one ( you) whom I have had pleasure here with. Confused me. I will no longer bore U with any attempts here regarding IVAN but I do know what I have written over past few days and his avoidance and subsequent lying about it. SANDY must suspect lying isn’t needed by me- too bad u didn’t view the transcript: it was glorious!
        .. as for baseless I always do enough homework to make any accusation based upon several things– im NEVER intimidated by these trolls and I make certain I have FACTS to back up what I say to them ( unlike most of them- witness jim bean)
        still luv ya! :))

      • Sandy Greer

        I appreciate that. I admit I was a bit worried. It’s hard opposing people you like.
        I’m sure you have your reasons. And IDK one way or the other. Time stamps on emails sent when they Reply to me show 3hrs difference (they’re both East Coast) But time stamps still prove nothing, beyond that.
        OY has now gone ‘private’.
        OY Replied to me in a different thread. I won’t engage. If he wants to read me, fine. But I won’t read him. But that’s just me.
        Anyway, I’m glad we’re still good – you and I. You be sure to have a good day tomorrow. 😉

      • giankeys loves shemale porn

        totally and always– U have brightened my days in past with ridiculously affectionate personal comments towards me– I always remember that!
        =======================================
        I love OY– I have made an easy amalgamation of he and IVAN;
        new name: OY-VAN
        ***************************************************
        kinda rolls off of my ataraxial (Q.V.) tongue !!
        ******************************************************

      • Sandy Greer

        You ‘get to’ love OY. I know you enjoy the sparring.

        I think him a troll because he’s only here to harass.

        Jim Bean is not my favorite person; I don’t think he cares for me at all. But he’s not a troll – he can present an argument.

        I think sometimes we confuse PITAs with trolls.

        Charles Vincent is my favorite Opponent. But Barlow doesn’t like him. Has boasted he will flag every post until he is banned.

        I worry about that because I saw Bine was just banned. Remember Bine? The flame war where you came to my rescue? Lord knows Bine wasn’t my favorite – but he wasn’t a troll, either.

        But now he’s banned. And I worry for all the conservatives – strayaway, Charles (who is liberal on social issues) Jim Bean – and Ivan Renko.

        FP wouldn’t be any fun without Opponents for me.

      • giankeys loves shemale porn

        agreed- Charles and I have had our fun: hes acceptable but shrinks in the face of cold hard FACTS—
        BINE was removed??? I wondered where he went! Jimbo certainly NOT troll; he has confided that hes a retiree who simply doesn’t like the PROGRESS America has made
        I don’t have anything against IVAN except when he– or anyone else– accuses me of stuff and as I bring to HIM the facts- replete with all dates/times/names/ ETC he does the USUAL ” conservative” regression and claim I cannot spell or didn’t provide facts or starts saying im unemployed and lives in my moms basement ( a regressive favorite epithet)
        no matter: I do enjoy how IVAN is now coming to you ( below post) to attempt to have U be “judge” by bemoaning how he doesn’t use another moniker and im a kid looking 4 ” back and forth” sans facts.
        I learned decades ago that when someone needs2 claim their innocence WHEN NO ONE IS PROSECUTING it is more evidence of malfeasance upon THEIR activities.
        IVAN (OY-VAN) is all yours.
        if and when he wishes 2 expostulate as a well-read well spoken individual I will engage him with merit. When he play silly games I will continue to make him look as he is—
        that being:
        un-informed and fighting with his hands broken and eyes blindfolded
        =====================================
        I will continue — upon the ” ted cruz embarrassingly Etc” thread to remind him of his lies THERE-

      • Sandy Greer

        Bine – a week ago. If you Google or Search – Palin family allegedly involved in violent drunken Saturday
        night brawl –

        You’ll find an FP article with many Replies to Bine, whose posts say – This comment was deleted. Not one post remains. William Fite – same thing, a month or two ago.

        I’ve paid attention since I saw the threat made to Charles. Since then – I’ve seen many posts complain of censorship. Seen posts disappear while I’m in the threads. It’s a concern.

        What I most admire about Charles is I’ve never seen him post what he couldn’t back up. Even when we’re at odds – He has my hard-earned respect (the very best kind)

        ‘Facts’ can be spun – Are, on a regular basis, both sides. I’m no Mediator – Would that I were. I think we see in others what we will. I just wish you both saw what I see, in the other.

      • giankeys loves shemale porn

        I miss William fite!!! I forgot his insanity!
        please note– many of these regressives simply make a myriad of profiles which lay dormant until needed.
        ================================
        ivan has evaded the plethora of easy2see facts presented.
        he now is resorting to name calling. that’s a surrender strategy

      • giankeys loves shemale porn

        bine threatened Charles???? weird: ive had threats on here for many; including GIAN KEYS who of course now has run….I always tell them where I lift weights and play basketball so if they want 2 kill me in front of many and lose their freedom over me I let them. I never threaten anyone; I will simply want to wager them money or have a CIVIL ( up to them) discourse regarding the ” facts”
        I must confess im a teeeeeny bit disappointed in you sandy– but that’s ok!

      • Sandy Greer

        No. Barlow. Barlow told Charles flat out he will flag every post Charles makes – until Charles is banned. Urged others to do the same.

        I don’t threaten either. Not smart.

        I know you’re disappointed. But if I don’t say how I see it – You won’t know.

        I said before – Let your light shine – You are brilliant, at times. I always wondered if I should have been more explicit.

        Because when you mock people, insult them, call names – go for the ‘gotcha’ – Those things detract from you. Not others. Just you.

        My advice: Let this go (you and Ivan) Walk away. The need to get our ‘own’ back – is a Poison, eating at the ‘good’ of a person. Makes them heartsick.

      • giankeys loves shemale porn

        hard to argue with that parental and warm logic!!
        I will try,,,but im still a middle aged BRAT who just wants to discuss facts. when certain facts are omitted and spun to fit in another ‘oven” I generally ask why with certain vitriol; however real postings from those such as Charles I do endeavor 2 keep civil as he has made me laugh and I hope I have shared mirth and levity with him ( and you) also
        —————————————————————–
        im now 11 days away from acquiring another location for my CHEFs business; so the 18 hr days sprinkled over the (usual ) 2 week minimum will keep me muted and gone for a while.
        NOTE: I really enjoy how IVAN ( and CO) derisively claim I have a thesaurus next 2 me as I write~~~~~~ I will confess 2 going to yahoo! 2 insure correct spelling as many of the words I resurrect are so NON used my spelling falls under the “lethologica/ lethonomia” category; but a thesaurus?? Please tell me what good that book would do if I didn’t have a grasp of the words I wanted to use already? ( sandy- that question is rhetorical) a book on synonyms and their usages would be more appropriately applied.
        ================================
        also– barlow is a bit to noisy and one dimensional for me even as he is a liberal/ progressive …… Im saddened he resorted to going after C Vincent- Ive seen him send many broadsides to OY-VAN as well; but barlow does it with much less panache than I do ( HEEHEEHEE!)
        by 4 now; lady of the lake!! see ya when I come up 4 air from my latest business venture–
        ( give my love to Charles!)

      • Ivan Renko

        Sandy,

        Two things.

        I’ve never posted here under a different nym. giankeys made that up on a hunch and then went hunting for clues to confirm that hunch.

        And he’s not worth engaging with to me, and I realized quickly he’s just a kid looking for stupid back-and-forth, mindless, middle school banter. He repeats over and over that he brings facts, but I never see any facts from him at all. I’m at a loss to think of any facts he’s brought to the table. No citations. No references. No quotes. Nothing. If he brought facts, I wouldn’t be as bored with him as I’ve become. He’s all walk and no talk. Ceasing engagement with him means nothing more than simply moving on from something boring.

      • Sandy Greer

        I know. I’m quite certain a man like you doesn’t need sockpuppets; no doubt in my mind. Your arguments are clear, concise, logical, and focused. Anybody so ‘focused’ would find sockpuppetry a distraction, and a hindrance. Too, you use your own name, same as me. It’s our ‘word’. Our stamp.
        I’m a good ‘read’ of people, even sight unseen. I absolutely trust my instincts. And they tell me you’re a stand-up guy. Whom I’m going to enjoy reading.
        I can’t get in between you two. Did so here because accusations which cannot be proven are a waste of time and energy. And hard feelings.
        Lots of people don’t understand why I like this person, or that. Hard to explain without waxing poetic. I just find it more satisfying to look for the ‘good’.

      • Ivan Renko

        It’s not my real name, Sandy. It’s a fictional character Bobby Knight once made up to throw off sports reporters hounding him about his next recruit. I used to use my real name but a
        giankeys-like obsessed freak starting calling my house and began posting personal information on every blog I posted at. Not worth the time. Not that it worried me all that much but I tend to attract guys with psychological defects like that.

      • Sandy Greer

        I stopped posting a site because Stalkers ‘outed’ somebody – who was left looking over his shoulder. And recently changed my photo for an avatar because I received inappropriate ‘fan’ mail.

        Thanks for explaining. I hadn’t caught that; wouldn’t have known, had you kept silent. I appreciate your Honesty (think it honorable) and understand the need for privacy. Absolutely. If I don’t see you – You be sure to have a good weekend!

        You’re Ivan Renko to me. .

      • giankeys loves shemale porn

        he just admitted that he– “IVAN” — has dug through MONTHS of my posts to see that my girlfriend signed up to the ACA and “IVAN didn’t like me gloating how my business is 100% cash and thus; non taxable- hes mad Im screwing the GOVT
        IVAN went through THAT much 2 check on me?
        ( Im eagerly awaiting his claim he didn’t do this)

      • Sandy Greer

        I can’t take sides. I can’t. You’ve each got grudges against each other – I can’t make it stop –

        It’s like a car trip; kids in the back seat, squabbling – each says the other started it –

        Front seat doesn’t care who started it.

        I look for the ‘good’ in a person because I want to. Just as easy to see good – as bad – for me. But I’m happiest when I see good – because I get to like people. And that makes me feel good.

        If I could make it stop – I would. But I can’t. Only thing I can do (with two people I like) is not take sides.

        I hope you understand.

      • giankeys loves shemale porn

        not asking U to take a position. I simply want U 2 know whats happening.
        if bored; read his replies to what I write him ( along with what was sent to engender his retort)—- then U can decide who MIGHT be “erring” in the posts

      • Ivan Renko

        Your lIe #1.

        It wasn’t MONTHS, it was last month. August 13, 2014. I was scrolling through headlines here, and the one extolling the ACA as ‘overwhelmingly effective’ caught my eye, because the ACA is anything but overwhelmingly effective.

        New Gallup Poll Proves Obamacare’s Overwhelming Effectiveness and How Republicans are Risking Millions of Lives
        August 13, 2014 By Allen Clifton 34 Comments

        Your lie #2

        Businesses that are %100 cash are not ‘non-taxable’

        Your lie #3

        Your valley girl diarrhea posts are all over this blog. One can’t look at past blog threads to find good-faith, sincere debates among commenters without having to see your nonsensical interjections. There were 34 comments on that blog thread from just this past last month, it was hardly any effort to see your post, most of it in all caps, bragging that you “FUDGE” your income numbers to get a better deal on your ACA healthcare.

        Your lie #4

        I’m not mad that you cheated or that you bragged about it. I’m not shocked, surprised, or dismayed. Rather, you simply are who I thought you were. A hypocrite, a loudmouth, a liar and a tax cheat who screws over his fellow Americans and at the same time tries to win their favor by pretending to fight for them, believing his tax transgressions with the IRS are no big deal, but wants other people to pay ‘their fair share’.

        “Higher taxes for thee, but not for me.”

      • giankeys loves shemale porn

        //

      • Sandy Greer

        giankeys came in here with mocking insults and name
        calling. His posts carried over from another thread. Oddly enough – I think more of those who are verbally abused – and less of their abusers. I’m just an ordinary person – my ordinary reaction.

        1) Unwillingness to give benefit of doubt led to accusations of sockpuppetry and stalking – and showcased narrow-minded black-and-white thinking.

        3) Back-and-forth thread-jacking (à la OY/giankeys) while entertaining to themselves – Ruins it for the rest of us.

        But I’ve seen giankeys be ‘fair’ to Opponents, pay them respect, and even – debate without insult. My heart swells with pride on those rare occasions he lets his light shine. I wish I could see it more often. Because it’s only by treating others with respect – that we are taken seriously. Especially in opposition.

      • Ivan Renko

        He hasn’t grown up yet, Sandy. He calls every opponent of his, which is everyone not agreeing with him on just about anything, ‘white trash regressives’, Jesus freaks, and racists. Anyone can do that, it takes no talent, effort, intellect, or willingness to understand. Then he tries to compensate for that lack of intellectual honesty in his retorts by throwing out words he just looked up in his thesaurus, claims he presented facts, and declares himself a winner. If there’s goodness there, I haven’t been able to detect it, and if I’d go back to older posts to find it, I’d be afraid of uncovering more hypocrisy like the one of him bragging about screwing the IRS. I will take your word for it, though.

      • Sandy Greer

        Hard not to take offense at name-calling. Mostly when I see it I don’t read beyond it. That’s the shame of it – They preach to the choir.

        I never, ever, think less of the one derided. My preference is they hold out as long as they can – but even if they retaliate – I never think less of them. I don’t think I’m alone in that.

        The important thing is that we maintain our own high
        standards, and be the best we can be. No matter what anybody else out there does.

        Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don’t matter, and those who matter don’t mind. ~ Dr Seuss

      • giankeys loves shemale porn

        hey crybaby,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, U have indeed name called. also– if U ” think” I need a thesaurus to obliterate who I choose U indeed are a cretin who transposes his lack of verbal weaponry upon we who have done the LONG work associated with acquiring such ”fustian” language. Also– I NEVER say JESUS freaks; so U are ( again) a LIAR .I almost NEVER use the boorish term ‘racist’ as I know that we all are racists even if subliminally.
        LOVE how sandy– your “port in a storm” as U try to have someone co-sign your ineptitude and pouting— rings the bell of truth regarding her distant —-and frequent– viewing of me whilst chatting with MANY progressives and “conservatives” who patronize these threads.
        Let her know how much “stalking” u did to uncover (!!!!!) my “screwing” the IRS— the same IRS that U crybabies claim is screwing us citizens. OY-VAN: here is a note jes’ 4U- U cannot have it both ways.
        now,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, about your lies on OTHER threads ( see: spinning)

      • giankeys loves shemale porn

      • giankeys loves shemale porn

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      • Ivan Renko

        Maybe the moderators are embarrassed by you, shemale.

        You brag about fudging your income for tax purposes; why would liberal bloggers want to be associated with you?

      • giankeys loves shemale porn

        maybe they are jealous as they don’t know how to make real money
        ==================================
        now,,,, about U digging though 5 weeks and 35 posts just to see me–
        sounds a weeee bit “stalker boi- ish” ,,,,eh OY-VAN??

      • Ivan Renko

        Making money is one thing, shemale.

        Hiding it from the IRS and the ACA is quite another.

        You’re screwing over Americans, and boasting about it. You’re not a good person. At all.

      • giankeys loves shemale porn

        im willing 2 wager that your smug regressive republican idealism doesn’t include the TAX FREE churches screwing us or the HUGE conglomerations who pay NO TAX–
        after all; U crybaby republicans suckle the tete of church and ” big business”
        =======================================
        and,,,,,I chortle– Im seeing a weeee bit of resentment based upon jealousy as U don’t have what it takes 2 make the money???
        OHWAIT—– 1st U claimed I was some kid living at my moms;
        NOW its acceptable — in this conversational context intimating/ accepting I indeed am that which I claim — to decry me for not paying MORE TAX?
        ****************************************************
        I do love watching your head spin as (still) nothing of value emanates from your orifice.
        shouldn’t U be moaning about my usage of “2”?

      • Ivan Renko

        I never said you lived at your mom’s.

        All for anyone making money, shemale. As much as you can, or want to. Just report the income that should be reported by law, and pay the taxes you owe. I’d be willing to guess most people here do, if not all. Most people seem honest. You’re not one of them.

        And you’re not the first sleazeball to cite institutions that pay no taxes to justify why he cheated on his tax returns.

      • giankeys loves shemale porn

        wrong again,,,,,,,,,,,,, u claimed I was a kid living at my moms only on here to infuriate people. U also claim I use a thesaurus….U also claimed I stalk U—–U also claim I am a shemale….( note: GIAN KEYS is a TOTAL crybaby regressive living in LA (cal) who has a taste for shemale porn: thus my username giving him full exposure. TRY 2 garner facts B4 U show your stupidity. I claim simply that U cannot keep up with me; ergo thy personal angst-driven disdain..
        Im willing to wager AGAIN that U wouldn’t declare a 25K cash gift as income to the in-FER-nal revenue service; so stop being so angelic. U steal as we all do– Im just better at it-

      • Ivan Renko

        Heh.

        You use a thesaurus to compensate for never learning proper sentence structure and punctuation.

        You use exclamations marks excessively because you’re insecure about being quite simple and boring.

        You cheat on your taxes because you feel wronged and you want to get even.

        And you boast about being a tax fraud because you think it makes you appear clever. You’re not, shemale. Once people start, they rarely stop. Bravado is oftentimes their downfall, but that’s another thing they can’t control.

        There can’t be many chefs in Broward County that host antique car shows. An IRS agent would have no problem locating your records and verifying underreported income. You’re not as clever as you think. Not even close. And therein lies your problem.

      • giankeys loves shemale porn

        awww,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, u really are upset with my vocab!!!
        ” punnnn-q2-aa-shun” is now the trite issue!!
        ” excessive exclamation points”….. REEEEELY? Hmmm,,,,,,,,,,,,, none in the above FIVE (!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) posts upon this thread- so I added some here to compensate. ( OY-VAN BE WRONG again)
        here– they are fun !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
        ====================================
        but,,,,, but,,,,,
        what if im in WPB or Sunny isles (dade)?
        best part? they have NO RECORD because its cash– U aren’t very bright are u??? do U even KNOW what an L.L.C. is? ( hint: both of mine are totototally by the book) and my rentals are not associated with either; nor my brokerage account: again- they are BYTHEBOOK via my gifted ( and overpaid) accountant.
        now,,,,,,, about your quisquous ( a true fave word of mine) back-walking of claiming ( on that other thread) that (a) he didn’t say it ( b) the FOX “news” panelist’s statement didn’t matter as he is ” libertarian unknown ETC”
        ====================================
        U really ice skate well! do U prefer rosini/ Vivaldi or more contemporary “new age ” stuff such as TANGERINE DREAM?
        (oh no,,,,,,, that’s not in a thesaurus—— now hes using an encyclopedia)
        KLEVVVVER? my pet argentine tegu ( laying here as I annoy U) is more clever than U will ever be—- here is a photo of him ^^^ on his 1st birthday in august,,,,my girlfriend insisted on the décor!

      • Ivan Renko

        Thanks. You too.

      • giankeys loves shemale porn

        don’t forget to tell sandy U — VIA “stalking”??– just admitted on a blog that U dug through MONTHS of my posts to find one regarding my girlfriend signing up to the ACA.
        =====================================
        or,,,,is that not a fact there IVAN-OY?

      • Ivan Renko

        It’s an incorrect statement. I neither dug nor stalked. I saw your post looking at a prior thread. You bragged about screwing the government out of taxes you owed them.

        Once again, incorrect statements don’t count as facts.

      • giankeys loves shemale porn

        really???? Hmmmmm,,,,,,,,,,,, shall we review the DATE that said post was posted?
        NOTE: as many many posts are heaped on top ( chronologically) thus making the READING of older posts a weeeee bit tougher to find ; any/all viewers MUST wade through a ton of stuff TO get TO older posts– or at least scroll incessantly to find something he ( you) could cry about. I enjoy your nugatory transposition claiming that I stalk you; when in fact we have proof U sought me out through going through old posts. SO BUSTED ( again)
        =======================================
        translation: you dug through a lot to get there as it was posted quite a while ago– so busted ( again)
        OH- b4 I 4get: did U enjoy the verbosity of FACTS I cheerfully(!!!) gave U in reply to your crybaby post there?
        or should I say–
        kinda sucks knowing Ive got business models which have me sitting pretty; very “capitalistic” of me– wouldn’t ya’ say??
        ********************************************************** but- enough about ME!
        what exactly ( details please ) are ” conservatives” conserving??? no broad brush strokes– DETAILS……!

      • Sandy Greer

        Not necessarily. I come across old threads through links on new articles. Keep my setting to Newest. Some use Best. Some use Oldest.

        I did go to Ted Cruz, your suggestion. I like the way Ivan handles himself. See no First Strikes, from him. See him take a lot of abuse (this thread too) before he retaliates.

        I admire the self-control, and discipline he exhibits. Easy to lash out. Not easy to keep a temper in check.

        I admire also his manner in posting. He’s not out for the quick ‘gotcha’. Think he values Truth, above all.

        It’s a rarity here – and it commands my respect.

      • giankeys loves shemale porn

        a post buried under a substantial amount of time? they are listed chronologically; not according to abecedarian slotting or topic weight( number of posts)
        you “happened” to notice my aged post in a thread–
        yet don’t see my MUCH more recent posts giving you the facts U claim I didn’t give
        ===================================
        you are priceless

      • Ivan Renko

        This is a perfect example of you providing false and weak information that you later will claim were facts.

        That blog thread was just from last month, dared Aug 13th,

        New Gallup Poll Proves Obamacare’s Overwhelming Effectiveness and How Republicans are Risking Millions of Lives
        August 13, 2014 By Allen Clifton 34 Comments

        I was searching for past blog threads by their titles, and this was stuck me as interesting, as I hadn’t seen that particular poll, nor had I seen anything describing ACA as having ‘overwhelming effectiveness’. Knowing the headlines here are a bit fantastic and prone to over-sizzling the steak, I decided to look at the comments, 34 of them in total (not substantial, shemale). They are not listed in chronological order

      • giankeys loves shemale porn

        “hunting for clues”
        when OY humid starts assaulting me– directly under my whipping you………
        I doubt anyone would call that ” hunting” as the regressive crybaby found me
        ===================================
        OH I 4GOT: u need facts–
        check the post threads: u seem all2 willing 2 do that
        thou be erroneous again
        ======================================= facts adorn all that I send U; evasion of them does not disintegrate their easy2find existence.
        keep cryin’ and lyin’- it seems your epitaph

      • Ivan Renko

        You’re babbling, shemale.

        You pretend that because you wrote something, that it’s a fact. Nonsense isn’t fact. Delusion isn’t fact. Fabrications aren’t fact. Grandiosity isn’t fact. Weird boasts are not fact.

        You simply do not provide facts.

      • giankeys loves shemale porn

        go to ” TED CRUZ EMBARRASSINGLY WHINES ABOUT FACT CHECKING SITE THAT CONSTANTLY EXPOSES HIS LIES”
        ..and attempt to notice: as soon as I went THRU the OY façade and named him IVAN,,,,,”oy ” didn’t reply to me anymore–hmmmmm!
        ergo– OY is simply one of ( how) many IVAN-esque profiles
        =====================================
        but– believe as U wish

      • OY humid

        Hey she porn. Stop trying to explain yourself. You are an unemployed LOSER

        OY BABY OY

      • giankeys loves shemale porn

        oooops–
        wrong again:
        two FLORIDA L.L.C.s
        =================================
        youuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
        lewwwwwwwwwwwz

      • Stephen Barlow

        Sorry you didn’t like what your Daddy did to you at night as a kid.

      • giankeys loves shemale porn

        IVAN & OY are same person-
        new moniker: OY-VAN
        ====================================
        noticeable by spelling same epithets identically
        poor OY-VAN: not the most gifted blog participant

      • Stephen Barlow

        haha why do I not see that

      • giankeys loves shemale porn

        no way 2 prove it but OYs attacks happened almost immediately when I was eviscerating IVAN and they both shared the same spelling and also certain name calling—
        I love ivan— he is so easy to punish with facts

      • giankeys loves shemale porn

        READ BETWEEN THE LINES? really Ivan?
        ——————————————————————–
        you cannot even assimilate facts!
        ( hmmmmm,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, theres that gian keys guy again: busting me for supreme oligophreniality!)
        **********************************************************
        and; pray tell O sage Ivan: what EXACTLY are “conservatives” conserving?
        specifics please

      • Ivan Renko

        Google it, Stalker boi.

      • giankeys loves shemale porn

        wrong again OY-VAN; it is easy 2 see who is ‘following’ whom,,,,and I am not following anyone ( according 2 the disqus site) yet I am being followed by a rightwing regressive named ” itismyball” who I am enjoying admonishing ( see: thesaurus) on a quotidian ( see: thesaurus) basis
        ========================================
        you lose yet again,,,,,,, ala Washington generals!

      • OY humid

        Hey Douche. Bay she male,

        Why don’t you go fook yourself you moron. Ivan is making points that make sense and you are writing in Ebonics. Get a fookin clue.

        Oy

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      • Stephen Barlow

        TRUTH is their Kryptonite. Reading between the lines is how they justify denying truth.

      • Ivan Renko

        Stephen and Richard,

        Why is it none of the other forward progressive blogs picking up this story weren’t able to read between the lines in the same way Allen Clifton convinced you to do? Are they denying the truth, too?

        You’re being a lemming, you know that? You’re being led to believe something on thin air and a supposed ‘reading between the lines’ that cane from a malicious imagination.

      • Stephen Barlow

        NOPE! I just read EXACTLY what Hannity said. I saw the ingenuousness in it and the intentional hate speech, no matter how subtle. He distorted his language to make sure he INCLUDED homosexuality in the conversation about corporal punishment by parents.

        Which I think Allen saw as well.

        One lone vote against the Funding bill giving GWB undefined authority to attack any anonymous suspected enemy or their acquaintances and Carte Blanche with NO time limit to accomplish the undefined tasks of warring upon an innocent sovereign Nation (Iraq) … and REP. BARBARA LEE is the only one who was RIGHT ALL ALONG!

        The point, It matters NOTY who FAILED to see what I just explained, Hannity is a bigot by trade and a racist @ heart. He has zero integrity. He STILL lives in NYC.

    • Stephen Barlow

      He SURELY insinuated it!! DIRECTLY.

      We are talking about BEATING children VIOLENTLY, causing injury and permanent harm. He is talking about Parental choice and politically correct gay bashing of minors.

      “Hannity said, “This is my problem with liberals. Because this is where my fear goes with all of this. You guys want to tell parents what they can or cannot do. Fox example, is it going to become illegal if a parent teaches the politically correct view that being gay is not normal?”

      How GAY RIGHTS legislation became part of the Peterson case, I’ll never know, but this wouldn’t be the first time aliens had abducted Sean and rejected him.

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  • Richard Mcgee

    Let me beat Hannity with a switch until he bleeds and then complain what a wonderful thing it is to discipline someone with a switch

  • Bea

    Listening to this “debate” I notice that is a one sided debate. Hannity and the conservative women keep firing questions at the “liberal” but never let him finish his answer — after 3 or 4 words in they fire another series of questions at him. That my friends is not a debate.

    • Stephen Barlow

      That is STANDAR Fox tactics. in fact it is industry standard for the allegedly Liberal Biased Left Wing Media to our number a single Progressive and then shout over him as a three person group unit so nothing he said can be audible. Just watch ANY Sunday morning Political Gossip Hour. Wallace, Gregory, Scheiffer, Stephanopoulos… et all, to the last man refuse to give the floor to a Liberal until he has spoken his peace.

    • All The Way Alive

      Best not to let nutcases run off their mouths for too long, though. It’s better that he was cut off.

      • pablo duvnjak

        You just don’t want to listen to a well thought out set of ideas. Better to listen the rabid stupid shouts from a college drop out without a working cell in his brain.

  • Paula Ledbetter Graves

    Every time you screw up at work, your boss should be allowed to beat you with a switch until you bleed and are scarred. That is the only way that you can learn from your mistakes. Doesn’t that sound ridiculous? Why should it be any different for your children?

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  • Stephen Barlow

    There is nothing ‘immoral’ in Peterson’s actions. Morality changes like fashions in the Vickie’s catalogue. What Peterson did WAS CRIMINAL. He ASSAULTED his child WITH INTENT to commit BODILY HARM. Some might even go as far as ATTEMPTED MURDER.

    No one knows WHAT this child did, and until that comes to light, we won’t know the severity of Peterson’s CRIME.

    When he gets out of jail, and he can get a contract to play ball, so be it. I do NOT think he should be deprived of employment UNTIL he is jailed and can not perform hid JOB.

    My BIGGEST concern here is the ABSOLUTE SILENCE of the boy’s MOTHER! Is she being PAID to keep quiet? Is she NOT filing for SOLE custody and termination of Peterson’s parental rights? Nothing,NOT a SINGLE PEEP.

  • Sandy Greer

    I can’t stand Sean Hannity. He over talks; I find it so rude – I automatically shut him down.

    >(which I can only assume means “beat the gay out of them”) is appalling even for that scumbag

    ^^^But I don’t assume that, from what he said here. Which I forced myself to listen to. The less ASSumptions we make about each other – the better.

    WRT schools. People who fear kids being PC ‘indoctrinated’ in schools (contrary to what a parent might ‘teach’ at home) don’t give enough credit to people being able to make up their own minds – when grown.

    We are not Sheeple – that we should fear opposing views.

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  • Rick Flash

    This is laughable, except the fact that so many people buy it makes it really scary.

  • Avatar

    Just let Hannity be Hannity. In past two months his rating are steady after continuous decline after 12′ elections. Mark my word, Fox News will finally shut down Hannity on their own term, not his.

    • Stephen Barlow

      He’ll become the Republican “obermann’. Who I actually liked.

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      • Stephen Barlow

        Billo the CLown!!!

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  • All The Way Alive

    Why do people give this nutcase a forum to voice his opinions. HE is the one who is in need of a beating. He is what is wrong with America – we give nutcases like this a pedestal and praise him as a great thinker.

    • Dmnsdream

      There’s big money in hate. I pray that none of Hannity’s children are gay. They will have a hellish existence. That comment may not be an endorsement of beating the gay out of a child. However, it sure as hell contributes to the stigmatizing and demoralizing of gay teens which leads to depression and suicide. Yeah, you’re a great guy.

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  • Mamma

    Anyone who defends an adult who physically abuses a child…..needs mental help..it’s sick
    FOX..Sean Hannity should be removed from his job…

  • Chris Herring

    Who looks up to theses people? Really, who the hell looks up to them.

  • Al Lea

    Hey Hannity…………..I have enjoyed many of your shows……………when did you hit your head………must be pretty severe to condone the beating of a FOUR YEAR OLD child……………discipline including “spanking” is acceptable……..beating a small child until they are bruised and bloody….HANNITY…………….think about it……………with me you crossed a line…………..

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  • tom

    hannity is uneducated and a puppet for fox news. he does and says what he is TOLD to do and say